This is a puppy

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This is a cat. She is far superior.

>>153748958
Flip Floppers.

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This is a Cockona. She wants to put her penis in the puppy.

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I wish I had a comfy puppy like Cocona does.

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This is a sexually frustrated teenager

PET PUPPY

7 9 5
9
5

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>883 (eight hundred and eighty-three)

>>153750335
>>153750307
SHUT UP

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>>153750582
How about not giving any (You)'s?

>>153748958
I love this puppy so much it hurts. Thanks Oshiyama

>>153749326
What's so comfy about her? That puppy has too much energy, is pushy, gets in your face very second, needs to go outside all the time, can#t be alone and makes a mess out of your home.

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>>153749204
>her
>penis

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>>153752295
yes?

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>>153753186
I didn't understand what they were doing.
Recently I found this is actually a beach game in Japan where they make a sand pyramid and start to take out its inside without collapsing it.
I still don't know how to describe the game.

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>>153750307
>>153750335
It doesn't matter, all that counts is that they're happy together.

>>153752226
Spotted the germanfag.

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>>153749106

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>>153753427
How?

>>153748958
good dog!

>>153752226
>Papika will never pee on your carpet
Why live?

what was flip flappers all about?
what was the point of that world?
why the super powers?
why they were the crystal gems?

>>153754017
>what was flip flappers all about?
Flip Flapping

>>153754017
>what was flip flappers all about?
Flap Flipping

>>153754017
>what was the point of that world?
What world?

>>153754017
growing up and self actualization
blended consciousness, seeing other people's umwelt
imagination, protective freedom granted by a parent
shards of mimi

>>153754017
sakuga wankfest
to make an anime that can be milked for 10 years
executive influence
oshiyama's split personalities

>>153754017
It was about growing up as a girl. Growing as a person and becoming comfortable and confident in your own self, and understanding your sexuality. It also focuses a lot on the theme of Umwelt coined by Jakob von Uexkull (yes, the rabbit is named after him) which refers to how the same things can appear completely different depending on the viewpoint of the organisms viewing it. Which is really what Pure Illusions are (what I assume you mean by "that world"), completely reshaping the world to match one person's umwelt.
Super powers were the powers of amorphous taking shape, driven by the desire to protect something important to you. Symbolically the henshin transformations were the about growing as people. Cocona and Papika transform when they start admiring each other and trying to emulate their traits (note the swapped hair colours), and transform into their white henshins when they mature as characters and realise they don't have to be something they're not. Yayaka transforms when she resolves to be independent and seek her own goals and desires.
>why they were the crystal gems?
I hope to god you're actually just dyslexic and not trying to cram a steven universe reference in here.

>>153748958
Real talk.

Why did Flip Flappers tank?

Why does everyone think Granny was a robot? Obviously she was working for KKK but I don't think anything suggested she was a robot whatsoever. We know the core of Asclepius were humans, why can't she just be human working for them?
Yet everywhere I look on the net people just say "oh wow she's a robot? cool".

>>153754366
Japan has shit taste and the show doesn't feel like it has much depth on a cursory viewing, which is how most people would watch it. You're not going to get invested in a story like this if you treat it like a "turn your brain off and have fun"-type story.

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Reminder that the director is an audiophile

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>Cockona

>>153754382
The way she kept saying the same thing every time Cocona woke up from a dream.

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>>153754382
Did you skip the end of episode 10?

>>153754366
The first episodes don't explain enough to pull the average viewer into it and it was poorly marketed, meaning lots of people who would normally jump on it didn't even realize it was airing. It was also overshadowed during a season when there were a lot of big, better-marketed and more accessible successes.

The show only really seemed to be popular with yuri fans (who would have been following it initially for Yuniko) and mahou shoujo fans (who would've gravitated to it just by nature of being an adventure show with a female cast). In other words, the number of fanbases who had some investment going in were few and the show failed to really pull in an audience demographic outside of them during its airing cycle. Without a popular source material or big industry names attached to the project, it's marketing power was small and there were few people who would have been tracking the project independently.

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>>153754382
Gee, I wonder.

>>153754322
The transformations were also about compensating for their own weaknesses and adding to their strengths by aligning with another person (hence impedance).

It was pointed out last thread that Cocona, who's meek and defensive, gets a blade with her henshin yet mostly just uses it to protect Papika. Brash and proactive Papika, on the other hand, gets a shield but uses it almost exclusively to attack. Alone, their abilities seem comically mismatched, and they only really shine when they work together to use them, like the fight in episode 3 or the action sequence at the start of 6.

So it was also about compatibility and connecting with another person, which both introverted Cocona and pushy Papika initially struggled with.

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So I was told that Flip Flappers was the first anime show to feature lesbian protags that aren't catered to the "male gaze"

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>>153754712
>It was pointed out last thread that Cocona, who's meek and defensive, gets a blade with her henshin yet mostly just uses it to protect Papika. Brash and proactive Papika, on the other hand, gets a shield but uses it almost exclusively to attack. Alone, their abilities seem comically mismatched, and they only really shine when they work together to use them
It's like I learn something new every thread.

>>153748958
>tfw haven't watched the last two episodes because I don't want it to end

>>153754536
>>153754562
Oh wow, amazing that I missed that, thanks anons.

>>153753542
He used your keyboard layout. Pound and apostrophe are on the same key for you.

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finally watched the last 3 episodes, that was pretty good

>>153754548
It was an auteur anime with directorial compromise. It was made with very specific directorial ideas which were even hard to explain to the sponsors. However the director was forced to dumb it down to certain episodic format but the core plot was still far from accessible.

It couldn't make people care. An example, Digibro dropped it after 4 episodes because he couldn't understand what it was about.

>>153754712
That might have been me saying that last thread actually. I don't autistically keep up with these threads so I might be wrong and just missed a thread, though.
The important thing, and why I wouldn't consider it compensating their weaknesses, is that because of the mismatch of their abilities with their personalities it really only impacts them negatively, such as in episode 6 when they fight Yayaka and the twins. Papika's taking the initiative, so she's able to surprise tackle Yayaka and take back the amorphous, but because of that she doesn't notice Yuyu coming at them from above, which causes them to be punched through the floor and discovering the "hell gate". We even see for a second that Cocona notices Yuyu a split second before the impact. If they had each other's powers, it would work a lot better because Cocona would be able to protect them properly while Papika would be better on the attack.

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>>153754842
Sorry, you were lied to. The show is filled with these sort of male-gazey creepshots and sexualizing underaged girls.

They don't even end up being real lesbians, either. It's all just bait, they don't even kiss. Which is probably for the best. There's like a 19 -year age gap between the two main girls so it would have been literal pedophilia if they had gotten together. Even the fact that they tried to bait their (obviously male) audience with that is gross.

>>153754898
Just do what I do and constantly rewatch all the episodes out of order just to enjoy them and pick up on progressively more and more details.

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>>153755008
Told you.

>>153755051
He's obviously baiting.

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>>153755051
>pro FLFL baiting

>>153755051
This entire post being bait aside, let me clarify that timeskip Papika was 19 years old.

>had a huge folder of Flip Flappers images
>finale committed the ultimate crime of being safe, predictable, and generic
>deleted them all and quickly forgot about it

What made it special in your minds?

>>153755012
They got punched through because Yuyu is fucking strong.

We see Papika use her barrier to actually defend things a few times in the show, and it's not particularly powerful. I seriously doubt she could block one of Yuyu's punches head-on. Cocona actually also blocks Welwitschia's tentacle in episode 3 as it's coming for Papika, and the two of them get knocked into space. In an ironic sort of way, Cocona's swords seems pretty damn good at blocking things. And then Papika's barrier protects them on re-entry so they can divebomb their target from orbit and create the opening for their finisher. It's actually pretty amazing teamwork.

Rather, I think their abilities suit them in a roundabout way. Cocona is shy but desires affect on the world. She craves some kind of way in, some engagement. We got a few shots of her inner violent tendencies throughout the show as well, most obviously in episode 3's kung-fu showdown.
Papika, meanwhile, is all about protecting the things (and people) she loves.
I think their abilities suit their personalities, but they needed to grow into them, which is a big part of what their teamwork helped accomplish.

>>153755170
>expecting a madoka 2.0
>predictable

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>>153755170
>predictable
I really hate to do this, but comments like this always read like trolling.

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>>153755229
Also I just want to add that Cocona finally actually attacks with her sword in episode 13, which is like a huge breakthrough for her character. It's also the most terrifying she ever looks in the show.

>>153755256
I still remember the faggot that baited with "Peter Pan ending."

>>153755345
I still remember the guy that "predicted" the KKK coming to kidnap Papika any episode now to finish the Direct Drive and how everything has been leading up to this.

why are the character designs in this show so fuckable?

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>>153755412
>the direct drive was never relevant again
I feel lied to.

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>>153755278
Back then complained a lot that she didn't really use her fighting style to full effect, because cute girls wielding giant weapons is a fetish of mine. Also hope that they will work on the fight scenes in this episode, they are just key frames with a lot of potential.

>>153755453
>implying KKK was relevant in the first place

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>>153755345
>>153755412
I remember a lot of anons thinking that she will be the final boss.

I remember a time before Cockona.

>>153755494
Just wait till the next deep little girls lesbian cartoon, Futanon will forget all about FLFL

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>Cockona

>>153755473
Yeah, I wish we had gotten more henshin fight scenes with Cocona. That would've been one of the best things about the show being 2cours instead of one. I loved all the action elements to the show, but they were obviously only a very small part of a very dense story packed into 13 episodes.

And I'm dying to see what happens with the BDs for the final arc. Part of me fears they'll skip out on fixes since the BDs weren't really marketed very much but there's just so much potential for improvement if they actually do. A fixed-up episode 12 might become one of my favourites if they brought it up to the quality of the early episodes.

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Help!
I think I'm in love with a cartoon character!

>>153755170
Hahaha flip flappers predictable....
I remember all the wrong theories.
Every episode led to more wild theories and they all proved wrong.

I applaud the anons who actually noticed the rebirth themes with Papika though, those managed to get something right.

But direct drive, two halves of a soul, all led nowhere.
The girl in the dreams, anyone that expected it to be Cocona's sister or a past life, or any answer except mom, was wrong.
Anyone at any point expecting an instrumentality or EVA tier shenanigan from asclepsius, or thinking they were inter dimensional or magical, wrong. Really, expecting anything from them was wrong because in the end they do nothing.

And all the "Yayaka is going to commit heroic sacrifice" posters, mostly wrong. She only gets a temporary eyepatch and that just makes her look even cooler, she never dies. And she doesn't switch side on time to "join" flip flappers either and it didn't lead to a threesome end or a romantic triangle she was dismissed as just childhood friend cleanly.

The end itself was perhaps the most unpredictable thing because nothing really happens. They get white henshin, they manage to piss Mimi of so much she decides to just suck everything into her vagina, and they trust their power-of-love so much they just jump into it and wow it works, bad Mimi is gone, the day is saved somehow.

I actually wish the show had been more predictable because some of the ideas the anons threw around sounded more interesting than the real end.

>>153755578
The next lesbian cartoon is Netsuzou, a 4d chess mind game. Then the next is Citrus, shoujo soap melodrama. Be grateful that Yuniko's characters were blessed by Oshiyama's masterful world setting.

>>153755494
And other, terrible, things.

>>153755412
>>153755453
Was Direct Drive ever mentioned after episode 3? I was under the impression Direct Drive just referred to the real world mechanism that attaches to a motor without any machinery in between the power generation (motor) and the power output, in other words it's the most efficient way to generate and use power. Papika is one half of the Direct Drive because she perfectly synchronized with Mimi (and later Cocona), thus completing the most efficient form of travelling to Pure Illusion.

>>153755670
>nothing really happens
Because after the last episode nobody was rewatching it any more without the anxiety of waiting for the next Thursday. You definitely haven't rewatched enough to catch what was happening.
The real ending was supposed to be literally the ED with the Hansel and Gretel. This is what the director said.

>>153755644
There definitely needs to be more porn of Mimi.
Mimi molesting her daughter
Mimi molesting her daughter's girlfriend
Mimi masturbating while watching her daughter molested by her girlfriend
Mimi consummating her relationship with Salt
Mimi consummating her relationship with Salt, but with terrifying PI powers
Mimi dressing up as her daughter and seducing Papika
Mimi dressing up as her daughter and seducing Salt
Mimi dressing up as her daughter and seducing Cocona
Mimi dressing up as her daughter and seducing Cocona dressed as Mimi
Mimi raping the KKK leader with an enormous clover cock and blowing her leprechaun load all over his face
Mimi and Sayuri competing to be Salt's #1
Mimi and Cocona Oyakodon
Mimi and Cocona Oyakodon, but where they cosplay as each other

>>153755702
The code numbers for Mimi and Papikana as test subjects.
33 and 45.
They're the rpm for a Direct Drive turntable.
In universe we can assume there was a different context but it was probably something technical and simple like that, without anything big to it.

It's just tossed out as a tease to the audience to get the imagination running wild.
As many of the things that were deliberately said/not said to make imaginations run crazy to make up answers about them.
And specifically those numbers and that name were likely just yet another audio reference.

>>153755642
When are the new BDs coming out? Vol. 1 and 2 happened relatively quickly, but now there seems to be a long time without any new release.

>>153755702
That's what a direct drive is, yeah. You may have noticed that ELPIS looked like a cassette player, which you can drive at 33 (Mimi) and 45 (Papikana) rpm. It's just more audio references.

>>153755578
>just wait another 6 years
I don't think I can

>>153755756
Can someone explain this in more detail?

As far as I was aware the ED references the Hansel and Gretel story which serves as part of the show's inspiration and it also partially corresponds to the show's episodes and progression but not all of them.

>>153755798
Vol. 3: March 2nd
Vol. 4: April 4th
Vol. 5: May 2nd
Vol. 6: June 2nd

>>153755670
>Yayaka is going to commit heroic sacrifice
But a heroic sacrifice is exactly what she did.
You don't have to die for your sacrifice to count. She chose friendship over duty and shielded Cocona with her body, getting seriously injured in the process. That's a textbook heroic sacrifice.

You might as well complain that Cocona and Papika's romance wasn't a real romance because they didn't tonguefuck each other's mouths at the end.

>>153755670
This is why I don't like watching, or more importantly, speculating on shows week-to-week as they air. It's so easy to come up with your own theory, and especially when you have to argue and defend your idea to other anons, you become more convicted in your idea so when it ends up being wrong it feels like the show failed you rather than the other way around, just because you far too overthought things without looking at the bigger picture (because the bigger picture doesn't exist yet as the show is still airing).

>>153755845
Alternatively, you can go dig into past shows and see if there's something similar to Flip Flappers that you could enjoy.
That's what I've been doing.
Although I doubt any of those shows will provide me with as much excitement as Flip Flappers.

I loved it because of its pure undiluted yuri. Papika telling Cocona she loved her all the time.
And the easy going feel it had most of the time, combined with trippy visuals, cool action, fun exciting adventures with different settings and a lot of interesting and mysterious stuff going on in the background.
All the similar shows that could work as follow up recommendations sort of lack one or more of those aspects.

>>153755792
>33 and 45.
>They're the rpm for a Direct Drive turntable.
This show is just too much.

>>153755941
>when you have to argue and defend your idea to other anons, you become more convicted in your idea so when it ends up being wrong it feels like the show failed you
What?
You know you don't HAVE to argue your opinion on 4chan, right?
Like sure, it's welcomed if you want to, but nobody's going to visit your home with a cattle-prod if you spout baseless assumptions and don't rise to disagreement.

If you let us affect your ability to enjoy a show, you might be doing something wrong.

>>153755917
Thanks anon, doesn't seem like I will be able to not rewatch it until all the BDs are out.

>>153755917
>the horrible actions scenes of the last two episodes won't be fixed until June
Just kill me now, revive me in 4 months

>>153755938
Yeah of course, I wasn't arguing that her actions were not heroic, or a sacrifice.
But there's people who actually expected her to die from it.
A classic anime heroic sacrifice death.
And I'm glad things didn't need to get that bad for her, she still got beat up but it was all fine, she managed to get some good character development from that instead and came back stronger and better than before.

>>153755860
Hansel and Gretel was used as a systematic framework to orient and anchor the characters and symbols in the story. The framework itself is rooted in the psychic structures through Jungian interpretation of the same Hansel and Gretel story. Hansel and Gretel is not just a fairy tale, it's a sample for the scientific investigation of psychic processes in collective unconscious, which is why the ending carries profound meanings but was however difficult to fully understand without the analytical psychology context.

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>>153756131
>scientific investigation of psychic processes
Psychology is not a science, anon.

>>153755964
Watch Bang Dream for more Yuniko.
Wait for March announcement for more Oshiyama.

>>153756207
Is Bang Dream actually any good? I've been seeing it a lot but I haven't actually heard much in the way of opinions.

>>153756177
Those were citing von Franz's words not mine. Also, nothing prevents scientific methods from being used in psychology.

>>153755786
You forgot Mimi taking control of Cocona and having teenager sex with Papika or Saruto

>>153756253
Oh, I did forget that. Good catch.

>>153756131
I've read all the psychological and mythological connections before, they explain some elements of the ending or add it an extra meaning but it doesn't change the fact that not much actually happens when they "beat" Mimi.
The biggest realization was their mutual confession, that unlocks the power of love and their white henshins.
After that they just get an easy ride until that part where Mimi is ready to just fuck up everything. They augment their power of love by hand holding but it still doesn't provide much light on how or why they manage to make bad Mimi disappear by jumping into her.
And yes I'm aware of the unbirthing angle to it, or vaguely aware of the great mother aspect, the girls finding their independence and reaffirming it deals a big blow to her since she's all about being clingy and keeping them infantilized. But that only works as a theme.
From the show's perspective there are still answers missing.

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>>153756227
>a dumb dork protag with autism level higher than Papika
>a blonde tsundere with more dere than Yayaka
also
>Cockona

>>153756292
Still vaguely feeling that writer change...

>>153756324
He's right about the final blow, it could have been visualized in a better way. It also doesn't have much to do with the writing, but the direction.

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>>153756292
You need this: vagina dentata limited edition.
>the hero is the man who overcomes the Terrible Mother, breaks the teeth out of her vagina, and so makes her into a woman.
Mimi's "teeth" were defeated, and there was a literal "Mimi switch with Mimi" moment which I'm sure you missed.

>>153756383
they didn't even attack just kind of fell in there and exploded

it was pretty lame

>>153755792
>>153755821
Ah shit I thought the test subject numbers were just puns on the numbers. 3 (三) can be read as mi, so Mimi was subject number 三(mi)三(mi). And 3x3=9, read as kokono, becomes Cocona.
Mimi=Cocona.
And Papika being 45 (4+5) also equals 9.

>>153755591

Imagine if the owner puts this up for an auction. It might fetch a high price from all the /a/nons wanting a piece of meme history.

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This tongue meme has spread to other boards.

>>153756432
>making a huge useless upscale wasting everyone's bandwidth
proper

>>153756249
>nothing prevents scientific methods from being used in psychology.
A lot of things do, actually.
It's notoriously difficult to test a human subject in a manner that's both ethical and doesn't overtly influence the outcome of the experiment with its experimental method.

Most psychology is not scientifically rigorous, nor does it even attempt to be. An idea doesn't need to be scientifically verifiable to be useful, which is why conflating science and psychology is unfair to the latter. It's a square peg, put it in the square hole.

Also bear in mind that when the word "science" is used in the field of psychology, it's not in the sense of the natural sciences, which is how we currently use the world science. Rather, it's referencing the academic culture of continental european philosophy in the 18th and early 19th century, which sought to systematize philosophical disciplines into a comprehensive 'science' of metaphysics and ontology. Kant was a big part of this movement and probably the one most people are familiar with. Freud and psychoanalysis emerged from this academic culture and worldview, but when they say "science" they don't mean it in the way that the contemporary world does.

>>153756397

Oh, so translated into anime it's like if Mimi's vulnerable point was her vagina.
So by striking there they manage to defeat her, or at least not "her" but that part of her, which forces a switch you bring up.
That makes more sense.

I can take it that she exposed her vulnerable side because it's part of her ultimate final attack, and she was ready to go all out and wipe everything along with herself, a suicide super move so she was ok exposing weak spot.

That actually provides a good and satisfying explanation, thanks anon.

I do think they could and should have done a better job actually conveying it though.

>>153756453
>having limited bandwidth in 20-dog-darn-17

>>153756513
>4chan's image servers being dog shit
not my problem

>>153756495
It's more, i think, that Mimi's weakpoint was her inability to exert control over the world.

When Cocona and Papika dove into her maw, they challenged her authority directly. They were willing to face oblivion together before they bowed to her will. That figuratively took away her teeth, because there was no longer anything Mimi could possibly threaten to compel their obedience. She had power but was robbed entirely of affect.

Mimi was faced with the choice of either destroying the things she sought to control, and thus losing the ability to control them, or conceding and giving them freedom. She chose the latter because, of course, "Evil Mimi" was never really that bad of a person and didn't want to hurt her daughter or friend.

If she had really wanted to, she probably could have clover'd everyone. Killing them was never her goal, but how do you control someone that isn't afraid to die?

>>153756597
Oh, with that line of thought we could also say that Mimi's "teeth" were also psychological.
Like all the time she kept trying to use mind tricks, or blatant lies and manipulation or her authority or the power of her being Cocona's mother and Papika's friend to hurt them emotionally, to stop them from achieving their goals.

At first Papika and specially Cocona were shown more hesitant against fully opposing her all out but by the end they had no doubts about it, they were fully committed to it in the name of their own love.

So in a way she couldn't do anything more to stop them, her final move was out of desperation.

>>153756485
Right. The only point of using the word scientific is because Frued was pulling shit out of his ass by using individual dreams while Jung and von Franz were studying material with broad influences on human psyche.

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>>153756699
Basically, yeah.
Notice how the one time Cocona attacks Mimi, Mimi retaliates with literal crocodile tears

She had all the power, but when Cocona and Papika wouldn't bow to her threat, there wasn't really much left that she could do. Your mom can tell you to not be a lesbian all she wants, but she can't exactly stop you from moving out and living with your 33-year-old girlfriend.

Damn, there is so little good art of Yayaka coming out now.
I guess it's dying down. It feels bad because I really love her so much, never felt this way for a girl before.
They probably won't even make a fig of her either.
I want to have an entire shrine in my room dedicated to Yayaka.

Speaking of age gaps and yuri.
Anyone else really into that now?

>>153756849
I would kill for figs of any Flip Flapper

>>153756744
>while Jung and von Franz were studying material with broad influences on human psyche.
They were still pulling shit out of their ass, anon.
Franz is a glorified literary critic. He just makes the jump from generalizing myth and art like a filthy structuralist to projecting those archetypes onto real human beings.

>>153756910
It's a classic of class-S stories, it's always senpai and kouhei, never people in the same grade. I guess Papika and Cocona have a larger age gap, but still.

On that note, I don't understand people's obsession with Papika's age. She's both biologically and mentally Cocona's age.

>>153756910
Yes, more than is healthy.
There's far too little good age-gap yuri stuff.
The worst part is that when I was watching Flip Flappers, I wasn't even thinking about age gap. I'd go as far as to say I didn't want it, because Cocopapi just worked so well as two young girls stumbling through the mysteries of puberty and womanhood together. But then they just slapped age gap on the table and told me it was gonna make me want it, and god bless them they actually did.

I feel dirty, used --and I want more.

>>153756927
>He
Let's not make this a pissing contest.

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>>153756849

There seems to be more Papikana/younger Cocona art now, which is my fetish.

>>153756973
>On that note, I don't understand people's obsession with Papika's age. She's both biologically and mentally Cocona's age.
It's one of those things where they type out how incensed they are at the degeneracy of it with one hand while furiously masturbating with the other. Best to just ignore them.

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>>153757046
Fuck, how did you know?

>>153756915
M-maybe next WonFest...

>>153756849
>waifu that never gets any merch, ever.
Ouch.

>>153757014
I wasn't even into it before and when they revealed it I was like yeah sure this is fine.
Now I crave it too.

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>>153757623
This show got me into a lot of new things

>>153756910
Could age gap yuri be the cause of my unmotivated appreciation of this show? Or is it cute magical girls?

>>153756973
One or two years is nothing, anon. When people talk about age-gap, it's like minimum 5, typically 10 or more. Generation-gap might be a better term to use since it's typically a gap between two people at fundamentally different stages in their life, like a teen or young adult with a teacher or other other older authority figure, or a early/mid-20s adult with a 30+ career adult.

It's about playing with and subverting power dynamics and social roles, since the romantic/sexual nature of the relationships necessitate navigating it much differently than the authority between people of those two age groups normally would go about. It's exciting because the normal rules for social engagement fly out the window and a couple fly by the seat of their pants guided only by compassion and mutual lust.

Class S sempai/kouhai stuff is more standard dom/sub dynamics that tend to arrange neatly along social hierarchies. In fact, the age aspect rarely comes into it beyond being an excuse for one girl to have more control.

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When it comes to anime boss fight execution, purely judging it by the looks of it and not with all the subtext stuff ep 8 > 13 by a landslide.

Ep 8 had an awesome insert song, way better animation and the pacing and delivery were better too.
It was about Yayaka being forced to drop her stubborn "too cool for you" act so she could act out on her true feelings as a maiden, showing the real passion that was lying withing her heart which she had made so much effort to hide.
With extremely hot blooded results.
Coolest final transformation/fusion/finisher move.
Very straight forward yet flawlessly executed.

>>153756782
>Your mom can tell you to not be a lesbian all she wants, but she can't exactly stop you from moving out and living with your 33-year-old girlfriend.
This is a very good summary of the last 2 episodes

>>153755531
I'm still half convinced she was the final boss, and we simply haven't delved deep enough, nor unraveled enough of the mysteries behind the ending to truly comprehend the Nyunyuy's role in the story.

We'd been making memes out of Papika holding a gun since episode 2, then here comes colour-inverted loli twintail Papika holding a gun. Oshiyama predicted our reaction to the show, read us like an open book. Nyunyu is the key to all of this, mark my words.

>>153758305
>yet flawlessly executed
Too dark, camera a bit too frantic, sometimes a bit too difficult to see what's happening.

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>>153758183
>Generation-gap

Pick up Yuzumori-san if you ever wanted to see how yuri between a 7th grader and a 4th grader would look like.

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>>153758387
Usually when I think of age gap it's more like this, but that works, too.

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>>153758332
Last time some anons were trying to decipher the Voynich manuscript. Don't know if this helped in some way for uncovering this mystery.

>>153758332
>Papika has a surfer motif (hoverboard, wetsuit)
>Nyunyu shows up wearing a float ring
Somebody get the ouja board, Aleister Crowley's gonna want to hear this, he's the only one who will be able to decipher it.

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>>153759777
>777

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I found some very interesting setting materials on 2ch, does anyone know where they're from?

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>>153760050

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>>153760104

>>153756074
I've somehow given up hope that they'll do anything spectacular for the last volume, considering the circumstances.

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>>153760132

So far so good but check out the next one...

>>153760104
I never really understood the point behind the toothguns.
Papika didn't have them in episode 3 or 5, did she? She just threw her little shieldbombs. The guns didn't appear until episode 6, but for what purpose?

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>>153760199

Note that he is referred to as "great emperor zombie" in the text. A reference to cancelled zombie train episode?

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>>153760273

GREAT PACOYA

>>153760273
If they were able to re-use the design, then the scenario change for episode 8 must not have had that much of an impact on production.

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>>153760309

Too many dicks!

>>153760199
I want to fuck Toto's cute little butt.

>>153760309
[muffled "tanomo" in the corner]

>>153760154
>circumstances
Those being what? Just because it's going to be released so much time after the anime finished airing?

>>153760546
The BDs got virtually no marketing
The BDs individually include little to no real extras outside of the box-set bonuses, which is unusual
The BDs thus far have included virtually no changes beyond credit corrections and a single minor layer fix.
The BDs have been selling so exceptionally poorly that there's no financial incentive to invest more into their content.

Basically, spending more money on major corrections (which in this case would involve completely redoing scenes, adding genga and in-betweens and generally doing the animation and editing work of several minutes of successive runtime, all on the dollar) would be insane given the shows' financial circumstances. It's literally throwing money away

>>153760695
What a faggot, not buying BDs as donations. You'd rather wait 5 years and buy the BDBOX released by Sentai I suppose.

>>153760695
I remember him saying in some interview that Oshiyama has still a lot of work to do after the series finished. Is he lying?
>The BDs thus far have included virtually no changes beyond credit corrections and a single minor layer fix.
There wasn't really much to fix.

>>153760846
>Is he lying?
That sounds more like just a generic "my career will go on" sort of line, not a promise for more content from that particular franchise

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She's still dating her aunt. And PPK should be arrested. There, your plot for season2.

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>>153748958
puppy is puffy

>>153760352
>20160707
This was pretty late. Ep 8 was aired on November 24, 2016.

>>153760960
I almost forgot this art existed. It's even more lewd now that I know how the series ends.

Also holy fuck Cocona's eyes are gorgeous. How does one girl make brown look so good?

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>>153760695
>The BDs individually include little to no real extras outside of the box-set bonuses, which is unusual

That's not true. I bought some BDs of other series, and none of them have a booklet of similar quality to FF. A 40+ page color-printed booklet with lots of contents. I'd buy BDs more often if other anime did this.

>>153760960
That really doesn't look like water dripping out of their hands

I want to fug this dog.

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>>153761077
So, is he full of shit?

>>153761077
To be honest, I thought those were exclusive to the limited box set

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>>153760945
>target of affections is stupid
Hey!

>>153761181
That anon is generally right. I think by extra's anon is referring to shit like event tickets.

>>153761181

I mean, the part about no marketing is true. Though the same is true for almost any Infinite show.

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>>153761020
Gotta love semi-lewd official promo art.

>>153754476
What are these? What do they do?

>>153761754
They turn you into a real magical girl.

>>153761754
Nothing.

>>153760313
By normal schedule the storyboard should have been finished around Jun 16, 2016 (November 24, 2016 minus 23 weeks according to Shirobako schedule). But they were still reworking the art design as late as July 7. That's at least a delay of 3 weeks.

Oshiyama tweeted on Oct 31 that all storyboard and dubbing scripts were finished when it was only 8 weeks until ep 13 airing on December 29.

By the way Oshiyama tweeted on Apr 1, 2016 that some of the dubbing scripts were finished. I think Yuniko already left for Bang Dream by that time and wasn't aware of Kabaneri which started airing on April 8, 2016.

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This Cocona is too sexual.

>>153761754
http://audiophile.rocks/tweaks.html

>>153761886
Bu-chan's eye says "Meat"

I think we all know what he sees.

>>153761917
I don't get it. It's a lump of plastic that they call a crystal? What do you do with it though? Plus your speakers into it? Does it just enhance the sound by sitting there?

And why is this website selling painting and puzzles of Jesus as well as these rock thing?

>>153761944
Cocona's massive rump.

>>153762060
You're supposed to place them on your amplifier or whatever other stages you have so their crystal magic can modify the sound quality.

>>153761944
Meaty flaps?

>>153761944
The cockona.

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>>153761886
>>153761944
Sweet, sweet, JC flesh.

>>153761558
Cocona doesn't wear bras confirmed

>>153762121
but, it's just a hunk of plastic. And what do they mean by "warm sounds" and "cold sounds"? Light can be warm or cold, but I don't think sound can be warm or cold. Who is making these things and do people actually spend $30 a pop on them?

>>153762305
not like she has anything to contain anyway.

>>153762325
>Who is making these things and do people actually spend $30 a pop on them?
audiophiles

>>153762353
The purity of her love for Papika must be contained, studied, and weaponized.

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>>153762060

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>>153762586
>like a king swinging his black and sharp blade

>>153762586
Is the description for the real rock the same as that or is the description also edited in this picture? I've been autistically searching for the original tweak on that site this is based off of for no reason other than said autism. It's starting to frustrate me.

>>153763107
The amorphous bit is edited, but I think the cheesy part about the king is real

>>153762325
>Episode 13 ピュアオーディオ = Pure Audio
>In pursuit of sound quality
>
>In the first place it is a fatal mistake to determine the budget in advance for pure audio and attempt to form a system within that range itself. Pure things, budget must be unlimited. However, it shows how much sound quality can be obtained by investigating the extent of budget by reference level below.
>
>500,000 yen - 1 million yen
>Sounds that are barbarous and ruined in the ear, toys, garbage, pure upwind
>1 million yen - 2 million yen
>Segway level equivalent to industrial waste
>2 million yen - 10 million yen
>Strong noise and error, it does not sound properly
>10 million yen - 20 million yen
>Sound comes out from this side
>20 million yen -100 million yen
>Bottom edge pure audio
>100 million yen - 1 billion yen
>Middle class
>1 billion - 2 billion yen
>High end
>¥ 2 billion - 15 billion yen
>It is a pretty good sound, but the way to overwhelming original sound faithful reproduction is still far away
>
>Like this, no matter how much money you spend, you can not cast too much. But for sure, the more money you multiply, the better your sound will be. repeat. As you multiply by money it will make sure your sound progresses, develops and approaches to completion Be sure to forget this fact. Those who are willing to be at the top of pure audio should read at least 100 times a day aloud. There is no objection on this thesis. If you think that "Although it is a better system but it is better than before," but if you thought that it is a good sound, etc., it is not clear whether your sensitivity is not pure but rather the sound of the radio cassette, It is only missing.

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>>153749204
>puppycock

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>>153755010

Even I knew the basic gist after the first episode. And how the story would play out after the 4th. How can someone not understand

"Not-nerv wants gems from alt-world for 3rd impact.

Papika can go there with Coconutz because their sync ratio is high enough

Not-seele wants something similar to the main faction.

These are their adventures "

Honestly. It isn't that hard to figure out.

>>153763754
Most casual viewers, like Digibro, will not pay attention. They are supposed to be spoonfed. Not doing it results in confused viewers, simple as that.

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>>153764084
But i feel like that is spoonfeeding. Papicock even says that she can only go there because they feel the same.

They are told they need to get the stones to make a wish.

and not-seele straight up screams what they are trying to do.

what level of simplicity is there that goes above this? someone holding up a sign or the main character looking at the screen and explaining in depth why they are doing this?

if they are that dense then fuck, the world is doomed.

>>153762325
Music can sound "warm" or "cold", which depends largely on what parts of the sound spectrum are utilized. The rocks are marketed as being able to bring out these characteristics. It's almost believable, which I suppose is why they're a 'thing'.

>>153764459
Spoonfeeding is needed to make them care. Understanding is not required.

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Flip Flap threads are always so comfy

Judging from last season, the right amount of spoonfeeding is somewhere between FF and Raising Project.

>>153763206
I actually had that specific page bookmarked http://www.audiophile.rocks/rubycrystal.html

It looks like they changed the description somewhat, now its:
>Ruby with black crystals on the surface. It gives warm, rich and powerful sound like you are the king of all warriors. Combined with the crystals it also sounds extra sharp like you are swinging your sharp blade at war.

>>153764084
Why do you keep namedropping some nobody?

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Just rewatched my favourite, episde 5.
This scene when Yayaka gets really close to Cocona ans asks pic related, but Cocona didn't blush or anything, so she immediately changed the topic.
Poor Yayaka.

>>153765772
Isn't that right after Cocona puckers up, expecting Yayaka to plant one on her?

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>>153765809
It was her one and maybe last chance, but her mindset was just too different.

>>153765895
>mindset
I've always thought that was a weird translation, even though everyone seem to have rolled with it. Yayaka says "kakugo", of which a more apt translation would be "resolve". "My resolve is different than yours".

>>153766119
That sounds weird in english.
Mindset here was an acceptable localization since it gets the same point across and works better in all the different conversational contexts it was applied to.

I'm actually impressed they got it right on the money with that choice, since they probably made it without foreknowledge of the script up past a certain point, and had no idea that "kakugo" would be a deliberately recurring phrase.

They swung and missed with "amai" since their choice to translate it as both sweet and naive lost the fact that the same word was being repeated in different context and to mean different things (positive vs negative) by different characters.

>>153766119
The meaning isn't that different, and i kinda associate the word "mindset" with competitive gaming, so i thought it fits pretty well with Yayakas ego, at least for me (not native speaking btw.)

>>153761754
it looks like they're supposed to decrease audio resonance, but you can do more with less using audio foam.

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>>153755786
I just want some sweet sweet Cocomimi femdom with Bu-chan

>>153766652
Bu-chan was my self-insert.

FUCK OFF

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>>153766933

>>153760945
I feel so ashamed. The only girls I recognize there are Papika and Homura.
Who are the other two?
And this is a joke right? Who would say that Papika "excels in academics" I mean come on.

>>153760050
Those look awesome, thanks for sharing that.

>>153760695
Not true, they did release some good bonuses, but nothing as insane as idol handshakes or a game like other shows.
It's still very unlikely as you say, due to the lack of financial incentives.
The only way something nice might happen is by a miracle. Like if Oshiyama decides to live off cheap ramen for 6 months so he can spend all his time drawing for free to re-do some scenes for the last episodes to make bump them up from "ok" to "beautiful fucking awesome sakuga tier".

>>153767193
>Who would say that Papika "excels in academics" I mean come on.
Papika has a PhD in second wave feminism and another PhD in ghetto space engineering.

>>153767193
>Who would say that Papika "excels in academics"
She's a remarkably quick learner, anon. Just look how quickly she picked up language from playing with Cocona. You can bet she flips through those hulking social science textbooks and remembers every single word.

She just pretended to be dumb to make Cocona feel better, since Cocona doesn't really have any talents or strengths outside of being pretty and having big hands.

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>>153766728
He really is /ourguy/. Oshiyama should have made him the MC.

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>>153767395
>doesn't really have any talents or strengths outside of being pretty and having big hands
say what about my waifu?

>>153767397
It's kinda sad that Bu-chan got snubbed in fanart compared to the rest of the cast. Usually mascot characters at least get a background spot but he got completely abandoned.

Maybe it's because he was split off from the main group during the final arc and spent the whole time being irrelevant with Nyunyu.

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>>153761558

>>153767397
>>153767453

I hope you people are not serious to wanting fucking Bu-chan to get more screentime

>>153767494
Bu-chan should have entered the school as an exchange student with an ikemen robot body

>>153761558
I wish there was more art of the Yayakat's fit tight body.
With all those sports and those martial arts she does can you imagine her physical condition?

It's cute how feminine she is though, despite acting like such a tomboy she still likes dressing like a cute girl with fun colored underwear.
Bonus points for matching her hair and her highlights with her underwear color.
Yayaka is stylish!

>>153767450
Name one (1) thing Cocona is good at.

She's average in academics
She's comically unathletic
She's clumsy
She's indecisive
She can't cook
She can't pick a highschool
She's terrible at making friends
And Papika has to fake her orgasms

Cocona can't do anything right.

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>>153767483
>official art of innocent fanservice.

I see that you sir, are a gentleman of discerning taste and class.

>>153767790
Why is there so much official art of those two in water?

>>153767689
She's good at being loved by Papika
She's good at smelling good for Papika
She's good at being molested by her mother

>>153763754
That's just the first layer, they deliberately made it look so similar to past anime.
But the reality wasn't quite as eva-tier as they led us to believe.

Not-nerve didn't want to cause a 3rd impact, they just wanted to summon Mimi back into the world because she had become like a goddess to them.

Impedance was made to appear similar to sync ratio but it was entirely different.
Impedance is about how close to each other Papika and Cocona had become, reducing the distance between them.

But that's about where the similarities ended.
Yeah, I guess there's some father figure neglect, and a manipulative mom too.

But in this case the interpersonal plotlines had an entirely different structure.
By the end the main focus overall was on the love between Cocona and Papika and Cocona's growth, while Mimi's actions coming from her clingy mother duality served as a good plot structure to deliver that story and a bunch of extra themes from the director.

>>153767815
They like their JCs moist.

>>153767816
>She's good at being loved by Papika
Actually she was fucking terrible at that, too. Poor Papika put up with more than we can imagine.

>She's good at smelling good for Papika
She probably just smells like teenage girl. Papika just kept saying that she smelled nice because it's like a line out of a cheesy teen ero fiction and Cocona is exactly the kind of girl to flip her flaps fantasizing about some dashing dogger giving her a good sniff.

>She's good at being molested by her mother
Okay you got me there. She was a champ at that

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>>153767494
Are you kidding? I fucking raged when he jobbed the second time in M.U.S.C.L.E. mode. It was like the fucking DTR all over again.
>>153767453
Bu and Nyu made such a great pair. It wasn't much but what we got of them together was gold.

>>153767947
Mimi shill detected

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More wet.

>>153765772
>>153765895
Damn it Yayaka.

Should she have tried to go for it?
She could have blamed it on the PI messing her up, surely she was aware of that too. But that would mean having to admit that she could be affected by it too.
If Cocona had rejected her (most likely) it would have been really ugly.
It feels like she was scared of trying to make a run for it so she gave up without even trying and accepted it, she just accepted being "just a friend" to Cocona, despite loving her so much instead of risking that with some desperate and hopeless last ditch attempt to get close to her.

Was it actually too late?
Before ep 5 Cocona and Papika weren't really that close anyway.
They had a few moments of intimacy together and they had managed to bond a lot through the unique and extreme experiences they went through together but there was still some distance between them and their relationship wasn't rock solid yet.
A brave new challenger could have still rocked that status quo and gotten the Cocona instead.

>>153767979
>Yayaka is dripping wet but Cocona's dry as a bone
Subtle.

>>153766728
>>153767397
Bu chan was like a reality TV camera guy who got in with the action.
He was always there following them around so flip flaps could monitor them. He could only watch, and not really interfere though.
And yet his reactions were always very honest and over the top.
He was the perfect self insert.

>>153754984
Wow, what?

>>153768011
I think Yayaka loved Cocona but she valued their friendship too much to ever cross any lines, she was just searching for excuses to not go any further.

>>153767815
I love that picture. They look so beautiful that way, barely resting in the water, their hair freely flowing with the waves.
They had one entire episode on an island and we never really got to see them play in the water and splash each other and then lying on the beach together, staring at each other hot and wet.

>>153768255
Not in the mood.

>>153767689
She has an incredibly pure, innocent and honest maiden heart.

Everything about her is beautiful, graceful and elegant. She's at the peak of femininity while still being such a young lady.

She's selfless, honorable, kind and honest, she's basically a good girl as good as it gets and a top tier A-1 10/10 100% level wife material.

And just take a look at her mother too. Cocona is going to grow up that beautiful.


I do hope they manage to go into a pure illusion where Papika gets a papicock and impregnates Cocona someday because it'd be a damn shame if such a perfect girl like Cocona never got to achieve her potential as the wonderful mother she can be.

>>153768201
I don';t think her feelings for Cocona ever really went that far.
Yayaka was pretty much a friendless loser like Cocona, though for different reasons. I think she was just afraid of losing monopoly on her closest friend and felt threatened by Papika's presence.

You'll notice that Yayaka doesn't really act in that sort of awkwardly intimate way with Cocona until around episode 5, but that it progressively gets worse from there. She's not in lover with Cocona, but she's afraid of losing her friend and feels like she has to compete with Papika. In a way she's imitating Papika to try and keep up, but every time she does so, she seems to immediately feel that it isn't right and peels back.

Instead she just slowly watches herself become the 3rd wheel, knowing that she can't fit into Cocona's life the same way Papika can, and eventually just resigns herself to it. It would have been a heartwarming side plot about growing up and navigating complex human relationships if she got a happy ending, but instead she just gets the fucking rabbit. Fucking fuck.

>>153768384
Cocona is clingy, possessive and jealous and lacks consideration for her friends.

>>153767979
>>153768048

Wew Cocona's little pussy(yaya)cat can't be this wet!

>>153768384
>incredibly pure
Oh please. Papithirst rumbles deep within her Cocoflaps. Cocona's heart is anything but pure.

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>>153768482
You say that one more god damn time.

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>>153768482
But you just described Yayaka.

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I wish this show had a marketing budget in the positive digits, it deserved to be watched by more people. I think more people on /a/ watched it than in Japan.

>>153763754
There's always gonna be a handful of faggots who, by chance, guess the plot correctly early on and then act like condescending shitheads for the rest of eternity.

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>>153767689
She's 14 and that's what they're good at. That's what makes her perfect

Stop being mean to my B E A U T I F U L wife Cocona.

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>>153765772
>>153765895
Yuri does absolutely nothing for me, but for some inexplicable reason I find it hot as fuck with these two.

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>>153768761
So in a year she'll stop being good for anything?
Nice shelf life on your wife there.

>>153768459
Agree with everything you say, but maybe Yayaka was just not expecting her Cocona to meet a certain cute little puppy that appeared out of nowhere and swept her off her feet.

If Papika had never gotten in the scene wouldn't it be practically safe to assume that Yayaka would have been able to develop a slow yet steady progression with Cocona?
They would have been like one of those long "when will they just fuck" sort of yuri series together, with plenty of role reversal and nuanced romantic progression.

But all those hopes, all those possibilities and desires were wiped off because Papika took Cocona into her adventures and ruined everything.

Yayaka hesitates too much, she hesitated over and over.
About admitting her feelings, about taking action, about expressing herself.
She always tried way too hard to remain in control, it wasn't until late in the show that we see her act out of her jealousy and abandonment fears when she lashes out, or out of her love later when she opens up about it, post confession Yayaka was also way more hot blooded but less tense, showing that she had now finally being able to let go of her need to always remain in control.

There's a very possible scenario where Yayaka did in fact love Cocona and never acted on it, first because she didn't feel the need to go ahead with it, and later because she was scared it wouldn't work out for her.

In that sense Yayaka might seem like the coolest of characters but she really was the more pathetic girl of the bunch.
I find that about her very lovely.

>>153754366
It was quite mediocre outside the animation.

>>153768680
Voted best show of 2016 by /a/, reddit's anime board and it barely lost the top spot on animebytes poll too.

Overall I'd say it managed to leave a very good impression on a lot of the western crowd.
It's a shame that hardly translates to enough profits to guarantee more official content such as an OVA or figs.

>>153768763
It means you are into that particular form of yuri dynamic.

Now you need to figure out what part of them you like so much.

The world of yuri is full of many beautiful sort of pairing types.

>>153768763
You have an emotionally vulnerable girl that doesn't know how to say "no" and an emotionally damaged girl desperate for the touch of another human being, and something --anything-- that's vaguely like a "yes"

Tragic romance is A+ no matter what flips are flapping. To its credit, one of the things that made Flip Flappers so great was that all of its important characters and their relationships were good in general. The yuri was great, yeah, but the show never relied on the fact that the girls were gay to sell their relationship. It;s the sort of relationship anyone can enjoy, and the sort where pretty much anyone can find something to relate to or like about the characters in it.

>>153768974
Yeah, when it came to characters, their struggles, and the inter character dynamics flip flappers did a good job overall.

>>153768888
>8888
nice quad and good ol' bait

>>153754366
I think the target demographic must over saturated or something. I watched 7 shows that season and the only one didn't flop.

>>153769157
>target demographic
Literally who? (no, you can't answer me specifically)

>>153769196
Male Otaku.

>>153768956
The dynamic where the girl who tries her hardest loses and gets nothing?
I'm sure there's a lot of those.

>>153768835
I don't think Yayaka was ever really in control of the situation, like at any point. She was just stuck with Asclepius because they owned her life, and at some point she just came up with some inane rationalization for why being a slave to Grandpa Salt's whims wasn't so bad.

Her distance and play-it-off attitude seemed to be more a sign of her resignation to the fact that she was standing on the border of a world she couldn't be a part of. You'll notice that she's a lot more openly expressive in episode 2 than she is 3-onward. She doesn't put on the tough-girl act until she's got orders from above to be the tough-girl, and at that point it's obey or be cast out.

>>153769157
Shakunetsu
Keijo
Izetta
Flip Flappers
Hibike

Did I get most of them right?

>>153769241
>Male
No. There was a survey where FLFL had M:F preference ratio at 1.22:1.

>>153769247
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that she was actually in control, but she acted in a way that would let her pretend that she was.
She wanted to play it off but it wasn't true basically.

>>153769254
Magical Girl Raising
Matoi
Stella no Mahou

>>153769196
That overlap of the venn diagram between otaku who like shows about cute girls having adventures, and hardcore yuri mahou shoujo fans.
The former is a subgroup of SoLfags who like more plot-focused works but still strongly prefer characters to be cute girls living cute girl lives and tackling cute girl problems. The latter are basically the long-term fanbases for very specific select franchises (usually larger, multi-media ones), like Nanoha, Symphogear, etc. and take series like this as similar to their main franchises and holdovers between new installments.

There were quite a few shows last season that appealed to one or both of those groups and none of them did particularly well.

>>153769254
3/5 and didn't watch Hibike and Ping Pong.

>>153769529
Good answer.

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>>153768974
Well said, anon. Yuri is just such a turn off for me and yet this show still ended up as my GOAT. Funnily enough we got a pretty good hetero romance out of the show as well. Mimi and Salt are easily my favorite couple/parents in anime.

>>153768048
Things keep getting deeper and deeper in this threads.

>>153769647
Well you should go watch Ping Pong right now

>>153769529
Producer's answer.

The director thought otherwise. I think yuri was initiated by the producer. The evidence is that Yuniko followed the producer long before Oshiyama on her twitter.

The director's target demographic though. Should ask him next time why he made the show. I think he is still hoping for more deepfags.

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>>153769739
Really?
I can understand liking Mimi, she had a lot going on and her good side was a likable character.
But Salt? How? His only saving grace was the fact that he basically got no screentime.

>>153769884
What had the producers produced before?

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>>153767689
>Name one (1) thing Cocona is good at
Making my kokoro go doki doki

>>153770015
True Tears
Hanasaku Iroha
Tari Tari
Hataraku Maou-sama
Nagi no Asukara
Glasslip
Sora no Method
Shirobako
Kuromukuro
Regalia
Matoi
Flip Flappers

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>>153770107
>Glasslip

>>153769774
There is probably nothing wrong with that show, but I'm really not into shows about sports / music / whatever clubs.

>>153770107
>Regalia
>Matoi
>Flip Flappers

Ouch

>>153770203
I watched it for the sweating lesbians.

>>153770244
The best kind desu

>>153770007
Come on dude. Salt was a great character given the role he had to fill.
He starts off looking like the cool, cold, ominous guy from behind the shadows but we learn that he was actually quite a nice sensitive guy back in the day, did some mistakes, tried his best and things didn't turn out well.
So he spent the rest of his life researching, developing and preparing himself for the day when he'd get a chance to make things right.
And he ultimately does at least in a very personal way. Sure his efforts weren't that fruitful because beyond helping Papika out when she was released from the dicktree prison and helping her and Cocona travel to PI he didn't do that much.
His attempt to hold off Mimi failed, and his final move was barely able to give the girls some extra time before Mimi cut him off.
But the fact that he went that far is meaningful in its own way.
They managed to show a very relatable and tangible side to his emotions, he started off being a straight forward archetype cutout but by the end we had a good grasp of him and had seen some other sides of him as well.
Plus that scene where he shots his switch was great, it was one of the highlights of that part of the show and it can be considered a great personal achievement.
Basically he looked like he'd be yet another selfish deadbeat dad but he's actually an example of one that did try to make things right and genuinely cared about it.

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>>153770007
You for real? He's arguably the most tragic character in the show. Where Mimi was a victim of circumstance Salt only had himself to blame and blame he did. Living in a shadow of his former life, his wife and child taken from him, he never let himself forget the mistakes he made and put every step forward that he could to make amends. In the end its fucking Salt that pulls the trigger and does what nobody else could do, effectively saving his wife, daughter, and reality as they knew it. Salt is based as fuck.

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>>153770210
Cute magical lesbians shows.
My favorite sub genre.
Why must it always bomb so hard?

>>153770389
Basically he's Gendo done right who redeemed himself by sheer will power.

>>153770430
Remember when he had 14 years to develop a countermeasure to Mimi's inevitable advent and the best he could come up with was a bunch of speakers that broke in 5 seconds?

>>153770479
>a bunch of speakers that broke in 5 seconds
Because Papika fucked up.

>>153770516
>blaming the dog
That's low, Salt.

>>153770465
what about cute idoru lesbians shows?

>>153770244
Yuri alone doesn't make a show enjoyable for me.
I was in for the mahous, action, artstyle and animation.

>>153770465
Unfortunately, the big toy shows like precure pretty much have a corner on the market. Shows like Matoi can't hope to compete and they aren't really made with the intention to be profitable.

It's amazing that so many of them get made (and made well) considering how difficult it is to make money off of them.

>>153770581
Don't forget, the dog fucked up the first time when they were escaping.

>>153770594
I'd love some cute magical idoru lesbians.
Without the magic aspect, it might still be fun but it doesn't really feel the same way to me.
I need that sense of wonder, adventure, mysticism. The feel that anything and everything is possible.
Plus the cute outfits and the wonderful transformation sequences and the trippy magical scenes and the heroic elements that a magical girl subgenre allows too.

This thread has made me curious about Bang Dream though, I'll have to check it out now.


>>153770666
Yeah, true.
I guess for some reason that specific niche subgenre manages to tap into a very specific sort of passionate force. They aren't that successful yet it seems there's some people who genuinely love watching them and the people making them like creating more of them even if they're not the most reliable financial gamble.
I'm glad that at least we manage to get them.

Tell me about the dog, /a/.
Why does she wear the anklet?

Seriously though, were they really just unable to just cut off her security anklet? I guess theypainted it gold to look cuter/more natural, but Papika's even able to fit amorphous fragments inside of it, so it's malleable.

4chan won't let me upload an image of Papika at all for some reason.

>>153771088
I guess it's supposed to be a dog collar, without having her to wear an actual collar around the neck.

>>153771088
That anklet was made of neutrons, probably.

>>153768763
>Yuri does absolutely nothing for me
Complete opposite for me. I can only get off to Yuri.

>>153771088
It seems like posting images is down, probably just a server thing.

Anywho, I think the anklet was just supposed to represent a dog collar. Papika couldn't take it off herself but it served a useful function (carrying the shard Cocona gave her). Salt probably left it on to help keep track of Papika since he's kind of a dick like that

>>153771209
Anon, you might be a lesbian.

>>153770430
When salt pulled the trigger he solidified his place as best dad.

A certain father of a certain pilot could learn a fucking lot from him.

>>153771367
Nonsense! He might just be a fellow man who appreciates the subtle and delicate balance of desires, perceptions, roles and interactions with constant state of flux and reversals only yuri can deliver.
Where intimacy goes deeper than physical elements or natural urges, it's all emotional, mental, deeper, more sensitive and pure and every action, every exchange can carry a meaning and a weight.
A simple glance or a simple touch can matter so much, hearts that flutter helplessly in a vortex of passions without a sure direction to take. The forbidden love that must struggle to blossom.
It is a manly thing appreciate such beauty!

>>153770107
>Tari Tari
Oh hey, another show tanu worked on. Still need to watch that one.

>>153771816
If there isn't an OVA with Cocona and Salt father daughter bonding then why live?

>>153773064
I can't for the life of me imagine what the would even look like. I don't think Oshiyama even knows which is why he chose to not show them together after the fact.

>>153771088
I got the feeling it was adjusted by her time in PI just like her age was so Salt never fucked with it. I'm pretty sure it disappears after the wedding dress henshin.

>>153773680
It would be very, very awkward. Both Cocona and Salt share the quality of being generally emotionally stunted.

But the awkwardness would make it even more cute.

>>153773680
I imagine Salt sees it as something like the situation Cocona experienced in his PI.

I want an OVA about Cocona trying to deal with her new girlfriend Papika, going from Yayaka to Sayuri to Salt for love advice, and in the end Papika does something stupid yet romantic and they have a really cute first kiss with some I love yous.

>>153773884
>I'm pretty sure it disappears after the wedding dress henshin.
You're right, nice catch. It's difficult to notice because whenever Papika has legwear the anklet is covered, this includes the white henshins. You don't see her bare leg until she rescues Cocona from Salt's PI at the end of episode 13.

>>153768888
>No "sadly"
You had ONE job anon. What a waste of quads

>>153773884
>>153774117
Shit, I thought the missing anklet was just an animation error.
>>153771139
>I guess it's supposed to be a dog collar
Between this and the audiophile crystals you guys are blowing my mind. Watched this show over a dozen times now yet it still manages to surprise me.

Does anyone know Japanese enough to ask the director through Twitter if there's any hope for merchandise?

>>153774895
The anklet is why Salt, Mimi, and Papikana failed to get out of the lab. Resulting in the confrontation that ended with Mimi shattering.

Evil Mimi had destroyed the building, cutting the power to the magnets or whatever that was holding Papikana to the floor and so Papikana could jump into the portal after Mimi, but by then Evil Mimi was so out of control that Mimi could only stop the destruction by blowing herself up.
The anklet was Papika's feeling of guilt and a reminder of unfinished business. Once she had met Mimi again and freed her, and herself, it vanished.

>>153769157
>I think the target demographic must over saturated or something.

That's very dangerous. Otaku will be losing its buying strength in the long run

>>153754842
>>153755051 is a baiting faggot but he's right in that there are a lot of "questionable" shots, mostly in Episode 8.
>responding to a 12-hour-old post
you can't tell me what to do

I've not been able to stop thinking about Yayaka since seeing the show.

>>153755051
>that rear
>pedophilia

>>153774895
I'm pretty sure the dog stuff is just memeing. Papika's is of course intentionally animalistic in multiple ways, but I don't think she leans toward being a dog particularly.

>>153760945
>refined and graceful manner
>homolust suppressed at start

>>153756485
>i don't understand science: the post

>>153761119
i want to fug this pug

>>153775341
>inhuman scent
>"mitsuketa"
>always following Cocona
>finds things and takes them home
>a fucking stick
>fights with a cat
Oh boy, the pics I could be posting right now.