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What went wrong with Bleach?

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What went wrong with Bleach?
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>>153745899

Bount arc
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>>153745899
It got popular
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>>153745899
Aizen lost
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>>153745899
Kubo
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>>153745899
Not enough insane asspulls
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The fandom.

All bad choices were dictated by the chronic shit-tier taste that Nippon has.
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>>153745899
Not enough Toshiro.
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What do you suppose Kubo is up to these days?
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Everything. But you can pinpoint the exact moment it became unsalvageable to Yhwach opening his eyes.

Ichigo didn't even do anything in the last arc, except going back and forth between the royal palace and soul society.
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>>153745899
Its conception.
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>>153745899
Not enough fanservice
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>>153745972
Aizen never loses, he plays 4d chess
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Didn't kubo start dying or something?
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>>153746705
This part pissed me off the most. Didn't see the main character for 50+ chapters at a time and his new power wasn't mentioned once. I still don't know what the fuck his new bankai does and so much shit is left unexplained.
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This happened.
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It should have ended after Aizen's defeat. Even if it would still have a lot of plotpoint not resolved, the ending would have been better than what we got
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>>153745899
No shinigimi can die in the 'war' except for Yamamoto and his lieutenant. And not even one from Gotei died in the so-called 'war' with arrancars. Gin and Tousen died but they were 'traitors'. Even when Byakuya was literally smashed on the wall and his sword broke he came back to life and even got a power up. It's not interesting to read when you know that it's just a shinigami fanservice galore and there is ZERO danger for them. I laughed at people who thought that Kira died for real. Oh, and Kubo killed off Ukitake and Unohana, but they didn't die from the hands of enemies, so it's not really war casualties. In case of Ukitake it was only to promote Rukia, so forced and unnecessary. Well, I'm not even starting on the plot holes, the plot went to shit a long time ago, but these 'fights' when you know that the enemy will die no matter what and shinigami will be 'deadly wounded', but not really, and will be okay after a while, are beyond annoying and retarded. It doesn't help that in most cases enemies died because they fucking told the shinigami how their ability works and didn't kill them when they had a chance. For example, Pernida twisted Yoruichi's arm. But he could have twisted her fucking neck! Why he didn't do it? Because you can't kill shinigami and upsets their fans, no-no.
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>>153747981
>It doesn't help that in most cases enemies died because they fucking told the shinigami how their ability works and didn't kill them when they had a chance

It works both ways.
Rose explaing his BanKai to the Mask was probably the most retarded example.

Also Kira is stuck between being alive/dead
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>>153747981
All good points, but holy wall of text batman
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>>153748088
>It works both ways
Except not really because shinigami don't die anyway even after such retarded actions. So it doesn't matter what they tell or not. They will win EVERY fucking fight. Kira is obviously alive, all those explanations are not needed. It's just to create a false feeling that something 'serious' happened to him when in fact nothing changed at all, he is still in Gotei.
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>>153745899
Ichiruki was the only good thing
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>>153745899
Nothing really, its pretty much flawless.
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>>153745899
Nothing just assblasted ichirukifags
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>>153745899
Everything
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Many people say the series lost quality after the SS arc, and I agree, but curiously the series didn't start dropping in sales after volume 42 or so (pic related with Bleach volumes first print), when the Arrancar arc was already ending.
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>>153749739
Lost Agent arc being worse than anime fillers was not helping
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I wonder how many people will cry when the anime comes back.
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>>153749947
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>>153745899
Too many characters
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>>153749739
It's not as if the Vizard or Hueco Mundo arcs were poorly received initially; vol 42 is just about where the arc fatigue started to set in.
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>>153749975
How is that even a criticism when One Piece exists?
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>>153749970
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>>153745899
THE HEART
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>>153745899
Gin died...that's what went wrong
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>>153750007
One piece characters get left behind in their respective arcs.

Meanwhile Bleach has like 40 shinigami that are all vying for screentime, plus ichigo and co, plus vizards, plus the villains of the arc.
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>>153750063
Again, how is that a criticism?
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>>153750142
Because the series just became character wanking and not a coherent plot.

And because of that plot threads get dropped, older characters get regulated to background (Chad, Uryu, fuck even Renji feels like he gets cast aside in the closing acts)
Meanwhile we get zany battles with mr giant quincy facing off against 3 shinigami to get no satisfying end at all.
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>>153750251
So you're a speedreader I take it?
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>>153750142
Because Kubo obviously can't juggle that many characters.
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A designer got ropped into trying to write a good story.
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The story got completely away from him. It's clear that Kubo likes and is fairly good at designing characters and powers, but he just ended up introducing to many that it got way too loaded.
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>>153750041
Gin did everything wrong though.
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>>153750306
I'm not really following you here, in what way? Obviously not every character got equal focus but how is that a criticism?
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>>153745899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACq7tgjHdGA
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>>153750373
Why am I supposed to care about Youtube "anime experts" again?
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It kept going after Aizen
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>>153750287
Hey remember Ichigo's other friends?

Remember when shinigami didn't just randomly pop up as they were arbitrarily needed?

Remember when Chad did ANYTHING at all of note after the SS arc?

Remember when Byakuya kept getting killed off?

Remember when Grimmjaw showed up again? Anything come of that?

Remember when everyones *ahem* favorite character captain facebook came out of no where and repaired ichigo's bankai via asspull?

Remember when the series wasn't about "Hm, which character do I conveniently have slightly offscreen?"

At least in One Piece you can't pull a character out your ass from 2 arcs ago because "oh right, they're on another island" but Bleach characters can magically teleport in with gateways between worlds
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>>153750465
All that text and all you needed to say was "Yes, I am in fact a speedreader." If you weren't you wouldn't need to ask those questions.
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>>153750465
Remember when Isshin and Ryuken were going to do something?
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>>153750498
"I don't know how to debate" -the post

>>153750530
Thank you, I had indeed forgotten about that.
Sorry, sometimes when you leave so many little teeny tiny strings hinting at 'hey maybe I'll use this character this time' it can be easy to forget them.
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>>153750401
And /a/ anons opinion is any better?
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ZA HEARTO
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>>153750553
What is there to debate? You haven't brought up a single viable point against Bleach.

>>153750570
Actually, yes.
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>One Piece fags start showing in

Bleach may be shit but OP after time skip is on another level of padded shit
And it was never nothing special to begin with
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>>153745899
Some way along the line Kubo concentrated on his porn career way more than on Bleach
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>>153745899
There was nothing right to begin with.

Bleach has always been a bad copy of Yu Yu Hakusho.
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>>153750465
>At least in One Piece you can't pull a character out your ass from 2 arcs ago because "oh right, they're on another island"

OPfags everyone, they seriously believe this shit.

>but Bleach characters can magically teleport in with gateways between worlds

Wow they used their tech and powers so it's an asspull, amazing.
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>>153750633
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Bleach was a mess from the beginning, with Kubo trying to create concepts and throwing them out of the window once they din't work out.
Shinigami x Quincy, Shinigami x Hollow, Alive x Dead... he was always trying to throw some meaningful dynamic of balance and falling flat on his face. The classmates of Ichigo were supposed to be important and were throw outta the window once shinigami became more popular.

Kubo was a popularity whore, always going for pleasing fans and avoiding hurting their fee-fees like >>153747981 explained.
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>>153745899
It went on after main battle agains Aizen.
Should have stopped over there.
Then it would be considered solid shounen manga.
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>>153750658
Stop holding YYH to such a high standard, in all honesty its just as flawed as any other shounen manga. Also Bleach has a lot more in common with Saint Seiya in terms of arc and power structure.
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>>153750623
Lets argue this fact then, which I have stated many times. And I'll put it into a nice clean format for you to understand:

Bleach has too many characters, that towards the ending of the series seemed to be able to be brought in at will when they were needed, not for any particular plot importance or character development moments. They showed up because "I need someone to fight this enemy". Because of that, the series feels like a mess of characters fighting each other in a generic good vs evil format.

Is that good enough for your head to wrap around simple concepts such us "Wait...why DID we have so many characters zerg rushing the final arc?"
Can you please give some kind of imput outside "lol no argument"
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>>153750368
gin did nothing wrong.

He holds the same place in my heart as itachi does from naruto
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>>153750737
>Can you please give some kind of imput outside "lol no argument"

I would, but as stated twice already, you're posting gives you away as a speedreader who can't into even the most basic of plot points; therefore I see no reason to waste my time on this argument. I recommended you post a few more walls of text full of rhetorical and easily answerable questions before repeating your first argument again, or simply find somewhere else to shitpost.
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>>153750703
You clearly don't get Shounenfags. They only shit on other manga to make them feel better about their own brand of Shounenshit.
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>>153750803
Did you even hit puberty already? Because you certainly smell like a fucking newborn
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>>153750623
>single viable point against bleach

I think he meant how kubo threw in characters whenever he neeeded them and ass pulled them new powers to prolong fights that should've been a lot shorter.
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>>153750814
>you're posting gives
>you are posting gives

Oh wait, you're an idiot

See, I can play "attack the person, not the argument" too

Sorry, I've got better things to do then throw walls of text at a person who failed grade 3 english.
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>>153750570
>/a/ anons
lurk moar
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>>153750871
I could make the exact same criticism about this entire genre of manga.
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>>153749947
>>153749970

WTF is this shit! Is Bleach a secret shoujo like Rurouni Kenshin?!??
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>>153750930
Thank you for falling for the lowest tier of bait possible, speedreader-kun.
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>>153750971
This.
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>>153750935
Shounen? Yeah you could actually that's a fair point. One of the reasons I barely read any now.

But with bleach it was probably a lot more frustrating as it was near the end. The series has always had insignificant squabbles throughout its arcs, but I've never felt this bored or deja vu reading a shounen. Maybe naruto.
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>>153750369
Not that anon, but I think they meant Kubo was never capable to give the characters their place after their time was done. Some even overstayed their welcome.

When you are in the last arc, and you barely did shit with the core group of characters, the ones that are supposed to be the main ones all while spending volumes giving flashbacks and long battles to others, but still not giving a proper development and resolution, then something is really wrong with your writing.

Hashwaltch or whatever his name is was the only decent character out of the sternitter. Maybe Askin as well, though his battle dragged way too much.

This was supposed to be Ishida's arc, he didn't even had enough focus and the conflict between Ichigo and him was brushed off by people (and Ichigo himself) pointing out that "because it's Ichigo, he'll drag him back with us".

At least he got a power up.

Orihime's character resolution was lackluster as fuck:

>I'm going with you
>Blocks an attack once
>I FINALLY PROTECTED YOU KUROSAKI-KUN
>Gets rekt later

Which would have been less bad if she didn't have that terrible trainwreck of a record from the Hueco Mundo arc

>But she changed in the fullbring arc

People who said this don't realize that the time for Orihime to get her crucial development was the Hueco Mundo arc. Whatever happened with her in the Fullbring arc was a delayed downplayed nonsense that lead to the wet fart final in the last arc.

And Chad...I don't want to be reminded of Chad. It's painful.

Same with Urahara and Aizen.
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>>153751041
The final arc wasn't meant to focus on Chad or Orihime, they already had their arcs. It was obvious to everyone reading it that besides Ichigo and Uryu, the final arc was focusing on the Shinigami, which is why they got all the paneltime.
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At least Kubo isn't as bad as Oh Great
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>>153751090
>Chad
>already had his arc

That arc being....?
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>>153751090
>they already had """"""""""""their arcs"""""""""""""


Fixed it.
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>>153750734
I grew up with shonen like Saint Seiya, YYH, Samurai X,... but Bleach never clicked with me, it felt like bad mixture of other shonen, even Naruto was more original and unique.
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>>153751135
Fullbring arc was Chad's arc.

>b-but he didn't do anything!

Actually, he did. He's the only one of Ichigo's friends that actually encouraged him to try and get his powers back, and it was also the arc where Chad had to establish his own limits of his power. Sure, Ichigo's development was primarily the subject matter, but Chad's role has always been as a catalyst for Ichigo's development, same with Rukia, Orihime, and Uryu.
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>>153751186
>even Naruto was more original and unique.

Ugh, opinion discarded...
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>>153751240
>Sure, Ichigo's development was primarily the subject matter

Then it wasn't Chad's arc.
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>>153751270
Every arc is Ichigo's arc, he's the main character. That doesn't mean he's the sole character getting development in that arc.

This is why you get called a speedreader.
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>>153751240
>Sure, Ichigo's development was primarily the subject matter, but Chad's role has always been as a catalyst for Ichigo's development, same with Rukia, Orihime, and Uryu.

This is half true and with a couple of exceptions in that list.

Yes, Rukia was a cataliyst for Ichigo's development, but it happens that Karakura and SS arcs and part of the HM arc were also the stages for the development of her own character.

Ishida as well, until the fullbring arc.
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>>153751452
I can agree with this actually. I won't argue that Chad's 'arc' was the weakest of the friend arcs, but he'd already been given plenty of development on his own before that; likewise, Rukia and Orihime both continued to get development after their respective arcs.
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>>153751526
>I won't argue that Chad's 'arc' was the weakest of the friend arcs

I meant 'wasn't'; although considering the arc was cut short I wouldn't be surprised if Kubo wanted to do more with Chad but had to cut it.
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Kubo wrote in characters in order to advance the plot. He's a shit writer.
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>>153752612
Wow, what a masterful thesis anon, you should become a Youtuber.
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>>153751582
>I wouldn't be surprised if Kubo wanted to do more with Chad but had to cut it.
He probably did, but unfortunately he had him brainwashed along with Orihime while the shinigami came to save the day.

I think a big problem Kubo had was how the human characters were never as popular as the Shinigami. Japan only seemed to care about Ichigo, Uryu, and Orihime.
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>>153746918
The last two chapters, except for the thing with Yhwach's reiatsu and the SK remnants, could easily have come after Aizen's defeat (or the Fullbringer arc), and they would fit nicely as an ending.
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>>153752710
>I think a big problem Kubo had was how the human characters were never as popular as the Shinigami.

That's to be expected; Bleach's popularity in Japan was almost entirely due to the Shinigami.
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>>153752712
Eh, a lot of the Ichigo/Orihime and Renji/Rukia development didn't happen until after the first timeskip.
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>>153752710
>Japan only seemed to care about Ichigo, Uryu, and Orihime.

Eh, I detest to be that guy, but Rukia has been always consistenly way ahead of Orihime in terms of popularity. Arguing that fact is pointless.
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>>153752778
>a lot of the Ichigo/Orihime and Renji/Rukia development didn't happen until after the first timeskip.
Completely false. We see Ichigo and Orihime develop throughout the entire manga and its the HM arc where we see how they mean to each other especially Ichigos side, while Renji/Rukia are attached at the hip after the SS arc.
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>>153752908
Yeah but Orihime was still in her 'save me Ichigo' phase; it wasn't until after the timeskip that her mantra became 'I will protect Kurosaki'. Final arc also had a lot of great RenRuki moments.
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>>153752877
Re-read my post, I'm only talking about the human characters.

Rukia is a Shinigami last time I checked.
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>>153752710
Then Chad was the only human main character that wasn't popular
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>>153753175
I imagine Chad is pretty popular with Latinos, with elevens not so much.

Kubo's next manga should take place in S. America.
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>>153750867
Don't talk to ur daddy like that faggot.
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>>153752612
Please tell me how you advance plot without any characters.
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>>153753175
I feel like that was it. Orihime and Uryu at least made into the later polls with an okay/more than okay ranking while I don't even remember Chads placing. He completely disappeared in the later part of the last arc while Orihime was alongside Ichigo and Uryu got his moments with Hashbrown.
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>>153749892
Lost agent is not that bad, actually is good aside from the final part when the shinigamis stepped in, but it was refreshing after almost 30 volumes of constant battle, Ichigo's mental torture was a fun read
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>>153745899
It's easier to just list what went right with Bleach and assume everything else was handled with a competency somewhere between poorly and horrendously.
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>>153753964
But that would imply that there is any point to this thread besides blatant shitposting.
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>>153754020
>t. Bleach fanboy
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>>153754046
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>153745899
>What went wrong
Editorial department being assholes by mandating Arrancars and rushing the ending.

However, Bleach has 4 good arcs and 2 bad arcs.

>Pre-Reaper (1-8)
>Soul Society (9-20)
>Arrancar: Hueco Mundo (21-32)
>1000 Year Blood War (55-74)

Bad arcs:
>Fake Karakura Town War (33-48)
>Fullbring Arc (49-54)

Sure, there were good aspects to the bad arcs and bad aspects to the good arcs, but ultimately as a whole, there were 4 good arcs and 2 bad ones.

And if you are wondering "Well, what was GOOD about the 1000 Year Blood War", look at the image and see what I mean.
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>>153745899
The dead kid
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>>153754458
But Bleach would be missing the Quincy and the many secrets and reveals that were in the 1000 Year Blood War.

Ending it on Aizen would have been a half done series.
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>>153754216
Fake Karakura War mixed with 1000 YBW dynamics would be the best shit ever.

Top tier Espadas were too weak without any reason for it.
All the battles were useless before Aizen confrontation
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>>153754735
The Espada were plenty strong, they were just outnumbered after the Vizard showed up.
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>>153745899
Aizen should have highjacked the final boss position from Yhwach and then have Ichigo and Aizen face one last time.
Instead we got asspulls and Aizen being alive and ready to fuck shit up again in the future.
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>>153754735
The problem is that the Arrancars that were mandated were just unmemorable.

At least with the Sternritter, they focused it the same way as Soul Society's Captains and Lieutenants in the SS arc

Soul Society
>Soi Fon, Gin, Aizen, Byakuya, Komamura, Shunsui, Tosen, Toshiro, Kenpachi, Mayuri, and Ukitake got a major focus and battles.

>Only Izuru Kira, Momo, Renji, Matsumoto and Kaien Shiba got major focus and battles

1000 Year Blood War
>Juha Bach, Haschwalth, Pernida, Asken Nakk LeVarr, Bambietta, As Nodt, Bazz-B, Cang Du, Opie, BG9, and Gerald Valkyrie got major focus and battles

>Covered Sternritter A through M (first 13 letters)

>Mask De Maskuline, Candice Catnip, Gremmy, Lilli and Gigi got major focus and battles

>Covered letters N-z (next 13)

>The Yourself was used as a plot device for Juha Bach.
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>>153753402
He always overdid it, and it showed in how so many characters were either combat jobbers, one-dimensional, entirely forgotten or left with a flagrant lack of resolution. I don't care how symbolic you want to be, you cant write in 26 final-boss'-underling characters all at once and not make it a shitshow. Moreover, it's not like that's not his only poor character management sin.

He builds a house out of Chekov's Guns and then people eat it up whenever any one of them goes off. The only really good twist was the Ywach being Old Man Zangetsu one, and it was only a surprise at that point because, due to garbage plot pacing, there was such a massive real-life time gap between quincy Zangetsu and Ywach's emergence.
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>>153754735
>Fake Karakura War mixed with 1000 YBW dynamics

But it did do that, what do you think all the fights were for? none of them really mattered outside 2 or 3 of them.
The real problem is that bleach ended too early, haschwalt, gerard and yhwach were just thrown in the trash.
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>>153745899
Ulquiorra being the 4th Espada.
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>>153745899
authors name means penis
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>>153755100
>He always overdid it, and it showed in how so many characters were either combat jobbers, one-dimensional, entirely forgotten or left with a flagrant lack of resolution. I don't care how symbolic you want to be, you cant write in 26 final-boss'-underling characters all at once and not make it a shitshow. Moreover, it's not like that's not his only poor character management sin.

Not that guy, but

Kubo wrote up the Sternritter the same way as the Soul Reapers. In Soul Society Arc, there were 13 Captains and 13 Lieutenants. The Sternritter had also 16 people.

Also, he structured it the same ways as Soul Society cart too. See >>153755005


>>153755121
Not that guy, but Juha Bach absorbing Haschwalt and Gerald was actually a good thing. Juha Bach had just finished beating and absorbing Ichigo's power. He was done and could move on with his final part of his plan.

It's just like what Kefka did with the Magic Gods in Final Fantasy 6. Once the magic gods were of no more use, he absorbed their full magic power and came at the main cast in full force.
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>>153755208
Please tell me you're trolling
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>>153745899

It should have ended after the Soul Society arc concluded. Arrancar were nothing but edgelord faggots and the entire series from then on was pure shit.
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>>153755286
Oops, I meant 26 people. Not 16. Typo
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>>153755304
Go back to /tv/ Sam
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>>153755304
You're acting like Soul Society wasn't full of edgelords.
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>>153755208
>>153755297
The whole Espada rank is fucking bullshit, Barragan should be 0 or 1
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>>153755357

It was full of interesting, varied characters. Kenpachi fight was incredible. Renji fight was great. Byakuya fight was fucking amazing.

God, nu-Bleach afterwards is so shit.
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>>153755374
Ulquiorra was 4 because in Japanese the number 4 is the same word for death.

Barragan was number two because Aizen wanted to disgrace him and Starrk had a higher reiatsu.
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>>153755408
Still edgelords by your own arbitrary definition.
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>>153755304
>Arrancar were nothing but edgelord faggots

No, the Arrancars that were featured whenever Kubo knew what he was doing worked well for the most part. Then the fucking editors started mandating Arrancars left and right and became overblown. This is why they took up two arcs.

>the entire series from then on was pure shit.

Except that the Arrancar: Hueco Mundo arc was still entertaining and the 1000 Year Blood War was pretty good for the most part.

>>153755374
No, if anything, Yammy should have stayed 10, Wonderwiess should have been Espada Zero (to point out that Aizen made that Arrancar himself and he didn't count in the same aspect as the Zero Squad).

Barragan being 2 was basically Aizen disgracing him and making fun of the fact that Stark was a Vasto Lorde while Barragan was not.
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>>153755304
>implying kenpachi isnt an edgelord
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Bleach should've ended after Aizen's defeat.

Kubo should've then made a prequel to Bleach with Aizen as the main protagonist and us watching him keikaku his way to power.
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I liked the Quincy better than the Arrancar but the Quincy fights were very shit and a lot of them were pointless.
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>>153752778
Pairing development in Bleach was mediocre, and still was best than most of...well, everything else.

But plot-wise, the post you replied to is still mostly right.
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>>153755603
>Bleach should've ended after Aizen's defeat.

Bad idea. the manga would be incomplete and therefore be missing a major chunk (Quincy, Isshin Backstory, Zangetsu true nature, Soul King, etc)

>Kubo should've then made a prequel to Bleach with Aizen as the main protagonist and us watching him keikaku his way to power.

Even WORSE IDEA. Kubo stated that he wants to keep Aizen mysterious and make sure that he was never 100% fully revealed.

This is Kubo avoiding the "Darth Vader Problem"

>George Lucas: "Oh boy, people sure do love Darth Vader! Should I write a backstory prequel trilogy about him?"

>Fanboys: "YES! YES! YES!!! Make the movies!"

>George Lucas: "Great! I will make them 10-15 years from now!"

>*Star Wars prequels come out*

>George Lucas: "So, what did you think of Darth Vader's backstory? Pretty cool huh?"

>Fanboys: "....Wow, that sucked. Big time. I am really regretting seeing these movies..."

See? Kubo is avoiding what George Lucas did to Darth Vader.
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Manga wouldn't have been cancelled if it had better pacing. You could pair up most of the chapters. You could probably make a few chapters of out 3 current chapters.
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>>153755929
It was cancelled because of Kubo's health issues.

Honestly, it was for the best.
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>>153755929
>>153755962
>bleach was cancelled

I love this meme.
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Kubo should have cut half the Quincys and focus on the real relevant shit instead of wasting chapter after chapter with irrelevant fights till the pacing became so shit that he had to end the story earlier than planned.
I'm surprised that after being forced to waste so many fucking chapter with a few Arrancars he thought that introducing twice as many evil minions would be a good idea.
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>>153756048
Are you retarded? They told him to rush the end of the story because they weren't going to continue publishing Bleach for 20 fucking years till Kubo finally finished the story the way he wanted to.
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https://youtu.be/ACq7tgjHdGA

Properly explained without the usual salt
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>>153756464
No, because that is based around the ranking system. Ecchiro Oda explained that the ranking system is about what the Editor in Chief wants to promote, NOT the quality, popularity or sales of the manga.

The fact that people buy into this click bait video is amazing.
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>>153756114
>the way he wanted to.
yea the shit ending what a surprise
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>>153756464
Stop shilling this >>153750373
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>>153753372
>ur
A fucking embyro I see. They sure grow so damn fast these days
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>>153756114
Nobody knows why Bleach ended in that rushed way, it's all speculation, but people have come to the conclusion that it was because of his health because of what Kubo told on his twitter 3 months ago:

"But his health started deteriorating in the 10th year.

His doctor told him it was just a cold. In the past, he would get better in a day or so. But this suddenly changed. He’d be bedridden for a week. Whenever JUMP Magazine would have a double issue [and therefore be on a break the next week], he’d stay in bed the entire week to rest. But after a while, that stopped working too. Whenever he thought he was better, he’d get a cold again. No matter what he did. It was an endless cycle.

He felt pathetic. He felt he was failing as a mangaka. A mangaka is someone who delivers a manga with a set quality within a set time. So should he really continue the series? Should he stop? But the story isn’t finished yet. What should he do? How should he end it? He thought about this every, every, every single day."

He told that a letter from a child gave him the will to continue, but I suppose he finally couldn't bear it more and he had to end the manga.
It's obvious that Kubo had to rushed the ending and he still had more things to tell because even some things that he said that he was going to reveal at the start of the last arc weren't finally revealed, like Urahara and Yoruichi's past and relationship (and in Rebooted Souls databook was mentioned their relationship with Tessai too).
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Kubo should've ditched Aizen as the main villain-to-beat after his escape from SS and focus on the internal conflicts of Soul Society. Ichigo just comes off as the lapdog of a society that makes Nazi Germany looks like kindergarten, and none of these issues are ever touched upon. The cast would've stayed manageable and the characters would get fleshed out more. Aizen could've served as a plot-device, dropping truth-bombs on Ichigo every now and then. It would've been interesting to see Ichigo fight the likes of Urahara and Ukitake in the same fashion that he fought Byakuya - over ideals.
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>>153745899
too many new characters
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>>153745899
Too many characters, subplots and factions meaningless arcs, none of which were strong enough to sustain interest and most of which required asspulls to resolve.
Bleach should've stayed about fashionable teens ghost hunting.
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>>153745899
TL;DR
>We saw some action
>It wasn't the centre of attraction
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>>153745899
Kubo is a disgusting hack.
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>>153760609
One Piece does pretty well and it has A LOT more characters so I don't know if that counts as an excuse.
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>>153762765
one piece explores the characters a lot more at fucking least. Even if they were considered "bad guys". If we had more interaction then things may have gone differently.
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>>153745899

too many fucking arrancars, i mean i love em too but at that point it's clear there was no real story, also Kubo missed out on a chance to connect Aizen into the next arc and failed spectacularly
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