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Gabriel Dropout

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Daiz will defend this
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>>153723265

and this
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>>153723265

this too
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No one cares because it wasn't a Satania episode
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Why is Gabriel so shit? She ruined the whole episode.
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>>153723265
The subs in general were fucking awful this episode, weren't they? I don't understand Nip-speak, but even I could tell the subtitles didn't match to what was being spoken most of the time.
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>>153723265

just what the hell does this even mean?
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>>153723265
>it's a my wife Vigne's episode
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>>153723472
ESL. There is even a muxed version for lazyfags.
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>>153723265

please Daiz, please just try to defend this
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>>153723265
ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT ALREADY
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This Angel was MADE for cocks.
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>>153723265

make it stop
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>>153723514
If she had said something that you could translate to "curiosity killed the cat," then great. But this shit is just too much. This show's subs are a pretty textbook example of over localization.
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>>153723265

Im waiting, Daiz
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>>153723265
But anon yOU DON'T EVEN KNOW JAPANESE how dare you complain
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Vigne episodes are alright.
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>>153723678
I want to be dominated by Raphiel. I want her to step on me and call me a worthless virgin.
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>>153723904
I hope we get a Raph episode later.
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>>153723265
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>>153723904
I found it pretty unexciting.
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>>153723904
I agree,
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>>153723941
She's too boring.
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>>153723265
ESL subs were released instantly.
Complaining about CR at this point is just plain shitposting. Shame on you.
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>>153723952
When she got sick the episode lost momentum.
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>>153723992
Avatarfagging with a trip is also shitposting, but hey, it's not like that will stop you from being a fucktard.
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>>153723265
>>153723368
>>153723421
These are fine

>>153723514
No
>>153723570
What?
>>153723756
Might be okay in context
>>153723846
This is horrible, please stop
>>153723949
They just don't stop...
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So have Gabriel DropOut threads literally become talk about sub threads?
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>>153724054
>Avatarfagging
I'm not wrong though.
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>>153723265
Who?
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Did someone make a looping webm of the ED?
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>>153724068
Just ignore the Crunchyroll release and wait for actual subs, I don't know why people choose to watch the garbage version instead. So they can complain about it here?
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>>153724087
Except you are wrong, but please continue showing how much of a shitposter you are by derailing the thread.
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>>153724245
It was like this last week as well, I thought I'd leave it for a week till next episode but it's still the same shit with people shitting it up by talking about the subs.
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>>153723846
Reminds me of the typical awful JRPG localization
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>>153724127
I kind of did.
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>>153724325
>>153724245

It's literally only on episode day though.
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>>153724280
How am I wrong? You can't point that out. This is not the CR forum so complaining about the CR subs is pointless when the alternative already exists. This is a shitposting thread where a bunch of anon pretend to be mad at something they don't even have to download to watch the show. I'm not even derailing the thread because I'm specifically talking about what OP started. Now, your next post will be an ad hominen because that's the kind of quality discussion /a/ has in this kind of threads if you reply at all.
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Gabriel can be cute when she tries. Makes me want to play MMOs.

>>153724060
>Might be okay in context
That's a saying by Jesus talking about how great he is. It doesn't feel right coming from one demon to another.
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>>153724466
Forgot file.
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https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=901193
Hey look, comedy.
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Instead of talking about the subs why not talk about how evil Vigne was.
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>>153724502
You really think I'm gonna read all that garbage.
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>>153724425
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>>153724502
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>>153724502
75 fucking replies already, quality.
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>>153724502
That guy's pony image avatar takes half the screen, this is fucking embarassing
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>>153724325
Of course people are going to talk about the subs, given how they're the only way most of us can understand the show at all. If they're obnoxious, people are going to comment on that. For plenty of people in here they're as much part of the show as the audio track for the episode is (especially given how they're official subs), so why do some people like you get so angry when people want to talk about them?
At least thankfully enough, the ESL anon released his version early today even though he missed a few lines.
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>>153724502
supreme autism
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>>153724621
>>153724758

These two were made for each other
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>>153724502
Embarrassing.
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>>153724502
Oh Christ, it's like reading a Youtube comment section.
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>>153724716
Because it's literally just people complaining. If you want to complain about subs then you're free to make your own thread about bad subs. It doesn't have any discussion other than shitting up the thread with complaints. Given this episode you can't talk about the plot much but people could still talk about the manga, characters and other focuses of the anime instead of bad subs.
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>>153724502
>https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=901193
Is herkz our guy?
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>>153723265
Commie and Daiz a shit.
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>>153724882
You're like hella boring
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>>153724900
Kill yourself.
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What the fuck is this thread?
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>>153724702
Part of me wants to think Herkz is just a master of shitposting, but he's really just retarded.
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>>153724900
The 'tism does check out even if he's defending garbage subs.
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>>153724502
>one of those fags browses /a/ and admits to it
Just goes to show how ruined this place is now I guess.
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>>153724795
Why are they so perfect together?
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>>153724915
Boring because I'd rather do something other than complain?
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>>153724949
Been so for years now.
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>>153723265
Fuck this shit. I am cancelling my subscription.
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Stop complaining, you people dont need to read the subs anyways
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>>153724882
Surprise surprise, threads about on /a/ talk about everything related to anime. Talking about subs is on-topic regardless of what you think. People wouldn't be complaining this much if there wasn't anything to complain about.
If you want to contribute to these threads, YOU are the one who could try being on-topic instead of complaining that people are talking about something you dislike. Meta-talk isn't on-topic.
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>>153724968
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>>153724882
I'm sure complaining about people complaining about is helping these threads too, anyway people will stop complaining about the subs a while after the episode airs just like last week so we can all talk about how much we want to fuck Satania like normal.
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>>153724983
you are literally complaining about the complaining
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>>153725043
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>>153724968
Raphiel is the perfect bully while Satania is the perfect bullying target, together they'll make perfectly normal half-breeds.
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At least we can add this to the what happened in /a/ 2017 image.
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>>153723846

This one bothers me the most, because the phrase "throw a homer" not only doesn't exist but doesn't even make any sense. Even if they were trying to use baseball slang they could have just used "Don't airmail it!" or something, which as far as I can tell would sort of fit seeing as she threw it way over them.
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>>153725087
>half-breeds
Demons are just angels that revolted against God.
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>>153725116
Are you implying people will remember this show by the end of the year?
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Instead of crying over the memesubs and waifufagging, can we not sub this shit ourselves? I would but i lack the skills
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>>153725133
>applying the bible lore to this comedy anime
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>>153725116
It shall be remembered as kitchen sink gate
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>>153725143
Well it's one of the best shows this season memesubs aside.
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>>153725087
You can't breed if you're both female anon.
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>>153725143
Depends if you have the memory of a chimpanzee really.
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>>153723471
Why is Daiz so shit? They ruined the whole episode.
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>>153725180
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>>153723265
>>153723368
>>153723421
>>153723570
>>153723756
Most of you whining about translations don't even know English well enough to realize when a translation is bad or not. Unironically recommend ESL subs for you
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>>153725219
One of them is a demon, I'm' sure there's some way.
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>>153725200
Satania is our queen.
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>>153725004
>not going back to 2008 and Obama or to 2007 and Scientology
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>>153725087
>together they'll make perfectly normal half-breeds.
With me.
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This is a demon from hell.
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>>153725219
That's what the mainstream media and biology professors want you to believe.
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>>153725289
You'll taint Raphi with your vial lewdness. She'll lose her purity if she goes near you wild beast.
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>that ED
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>>153725328
What purity? She's pure in name only.
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>>153725219
>implying Raphiel doesn't have a massive dick
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>>153725261
I'd rather have subs with poor grammar that don't add any unnecessary shit to a show than subs with perfect grammar that shit up everything in a show's script. My brain is capable of auto-correcting most grammar mistakes after all.
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>>153724968
If I cut that doughnut, will you die?
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>>153723265
There are better subs available

use those

stop bitch about CR subs or trying to bait yuri or anti yuri fags or trying to get a rise out of ACK and lets discuss Vigne's cuteness instead for fuck sakes
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>unironically defending the memesubs
wew fucking lad
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-_- I think funny subs just add to the comedic value of the animes. Why are you all so triggered?
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>>153725361
She owns one, but she carries it between my legs.
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>>153725180
I can do the logo.
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>>153725350
>DUWANG 240p
Nice.
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>>153725350
>It's like, oishii in my mouth
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>>153725378
>all the Raphi Satania images were posted

Have some moderation to spread it along the thread
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>>153725378
It would be extremely ___sad_.
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>>153725411
I bet you defend 4kids' anime dubs as well.
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>>153725378
Why are the strawberries fighting?
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>>153725411
Many enthusiasts of foreign cartoons are picky, it's a shame they can't just loosen up and enjoy a good translation
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>>153723265

Something new to add to rub-a-dub-dub images.
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>>153725328
Satania doesn't deserve this beauty, she will be mine for heavenly breeding purposes.
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>>153725452
Oh fuck, my dick!
WHY?!
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>>153725411
>-_-
kill yourself
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>>153725261
Where is the subject in your second sentence "Super-English"-kun?
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>>153724060
>making up jokes in parts of the script that are completely normal
>fine
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>>153725411
>-_-
>animes
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
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>>153724502
Someone shoot herkz already.
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>>153725411
Try to be more subtle next time, 4/10 here's your (You)
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>>153724502
Wasn't this bass guy shitting on CR subs before? Now he's the one defending them, what the fuck happened
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>>153725471
They are dancing.
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>>153725350
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>>153725398
>-_-
I refuse to believe /a/ has sink this low.
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>>153725516
It may be shitposting but look at all the yous
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>>153725525
But look at all the replies, that's an 8 at least.
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>>153724060
>Scene meant to show how proper and pure Vigne is
>Through the Dark lord Amen
>Fine
No go fuck yourself Daiz
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>>153725570
Learn to recognize a false flag.
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>HS release has 77 comments on Nyaa
Holy mother of fuck.
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>>153725631
These cute girls don't deserve this, it makes me sad.
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>>153725486
What are your attributes that'd make you more interesting to her than Satania, inb4 I have a dick
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>>153725631
It's not like it'll make a difference, best they can do is get the mods to make fools of themselves.
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Hey guys, anyone want to talk about Gabriel Dropout?
Pretty cute show from this season about angels and demons doing human things.
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>>153725660
Yeah but check out those amazing subtitles
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>>153723265
MFW when translators resort to jokes to hide their lack of comprehension.
MFW when someone got paid for this.
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Who is even the bassgs435? He seems to be even bigger retard than Herkz herself.
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>>153725511
kys senpai lmao
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>>153725660
It's hella rad, praise the dark lord Amen, but don't forget the kitchen sink.
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>>153725660
Subs discussion will die eventually, it's release day and CR did a number on the viewers with with the dark lord line.
>>153725677
Checked.
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>>153725660
This episode was great. Now we need an episode where Gab tries to act like an angel.
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I can't believe the other thread didn't post the end card
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>>153725688
who cares not anime
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>>153725677
Holy heaven! Picked up!
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>>153725707
>with with
Are you trying to trick me? I was able to read both with no problems.

>>153725677
[ESL] is pretty good I agree.
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>>153725660
>hey guys stop talking about these things that are officially part of the show because you're bothering my friend who made them
Sure. Tell him to stop being dumb one day.
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>>153725718
My wife Vigne is so perfect.
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>>153725718
Why does CR get rid of them? People are literally paying money to get less content.
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>>153725657
I am a handsome young man with a good, stable job, and a devout Christian who goes to church every Sunday, also I have a dick.
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>>153725715
She is an angel in MMOs. Healers are all angels.
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>>153725718
Satania, guide my cock!
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>>153725583
4 for four before me.
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>>153725677
Checked.
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>>153725752
>Are you trying to trick me? I was able to read both with no problems.
Heavens anon, it was a hella honest mistake, lay me off.
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>>153725660
I sure am glad I got reminded that they were angels and demons. I forgot about an episode in ito the series/
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The subs don't bother me, it's kind of a goofy show anyway.
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>>153725824
>goofy
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>>153725765
That sounds really boring, Raphi would only show interest in you if you were more interesting than Satania.
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LEGS
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>>153725688
herkz called somebody on twitter to defend him
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>>153725850
Satania isn't interesting, she's just a retard.
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>>153725194
When is he going to update the notes for this show? The last one was episode 4.
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>>153723265
It's puns. You can't translate puns.
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>>153725850
What if I get a job at CR instead and learn to make lots of devilish puns in casual conversation.
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>>153725907
Satania is the most interesting woman in the world.
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>>153725927
who knows, he might not even do more since right now he seems more interested on Maid Dragon
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>>153725945
t. Satania
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life give you demons
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>CR
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>>153725942
You'd be doing it on purpose, do you think she'd love someone who's being goofy on purpose?
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>>153725986
I'd drink Vigne's demonade
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>>153725993
That can't be real
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>>153725850
Dicks are really interesting, anon.
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>>153725993
>People pay for this
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>>153726030
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>>153725942
That'd be hella great.
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>>153725942
That't get many people pissed. I'm sure she'd love that.
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>>153726034
>lewding the yurus
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>>153725887
Yeah, you are probably right.

>Only bad subs use honorifics.
So basically they will be banning everyone who are using honorifics soon xD
I need to admit one thing. Her group has a perfect name describing that. They are literally a cancer of fansubs.
We had gg, we had hadena but basically no one were that toxic like commie and their fans/followers.
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>>153725993
I remember in Deadman Wonderland they couldn't understand some line and just put "???"
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>>153725824
>Because it's a comedy I can insert my fanfiction into the script. It's ok since I find humorous surely everyone will love it and tell me how witty I am.
>That one translator complimented my edits SQUEEE time to add even MORE jokes, idioms, and puns.
>OMG I'm like so good at making this script so much more better for the western audience.

Bet it's some landwhale with a liberal arts degree who frequents anime conventions
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>>153726121
>not lewding high grade underaged semen demons
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>>153726121
You know who lewds the yurus? Namori. You know who doesn't? The translators for this show, I bet! You actually support CR?
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>>153724060
they are not fine, they totally change the meaning of the scene and add jokes that weren't there
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>>153725261
And most of you people defending these subs are just prancing homosexuals. See? I can make assumptions and state them as fact too.
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>>153726173
They are like gay daughters to me, you sick fuck.
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>>153725930
>Itadakimasu is a pun

memecartel fanboys everyone
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>>153726202
>not wanting to fuck your gay daughter straight
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>>153726202
Your daughters are sexy as fuck dude.
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>>153726227
>>153726181
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>>153726202
Your daughter-wives?
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>>153726202
May I fuck one of your gay daughters?
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>>153725350
>rub a dub dub thanks for the grub
somebody kill me fucking kek
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>>153726202
Your daughter Sakurako is my cute wife.
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>>153725351
>tfw no Gabu harem
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This gives me weird feelings.
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Could someone please make a stitch of Vigne and her bosozoku bike?
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>>153725945
How many times do think Raphi has bribed Satania for her pleasure in return of melon bread?
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>>153726324
All of the stitches were dumped two threads ago.
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Shh! Vigne is sleeping.
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>>153726332
>vagina juices are totally demonic Satania
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>>153723265
So I just watched this.
Who the fuck is in charge of greenlightining this shit. How in the actual heck can you read the subs and think "yeah, this is a good translation, this is totally why people are paying us to sub".
I mean, I only know a little of nip and can't even properly articulate a sentence in moon but
>Let's go our butts to school
What the fuck.
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>>153726332
Satania licks angels for Melonpan OHOHOHOHOHO
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>>153726359
Is she sleeping like an angel?
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>>153726359
I swear I've read this post 4 times today.
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桜子
>>153726202

Hey, I've fapped to your daughters before
I did it furiously, how do you feel about it?
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>>153723265
>mfw
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>>153726324
Delinquent Vigne a best.
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>>153726359
WAKE UP
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>>153724060
>itadakimasu translated to that is fine

fucking baka get out of my sight.

I bet you thing this change to throw in another religious saying is fine too
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>people actually defending these subs

I seriously fucking hope that you're joking.
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>>153724502

>Do I have to spell it to you? If you hate it, don't watch it. Find an alternate source. Crying out loud here won't change the translation for the incoming episodes. IDC if you don't like overly liberal subs, and especially the phrases you're ranting about. The show isn't that funny, but for me the subs somehow redeem it; in a hit-or-miss basis. If you don't know much reference, then it sucks to be you.
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>>153726189
There are no assumptions being made. There is nothing wrong with half the translations that get posted in these threads.
Just weebs wanting bland translations that don't carry the right contexts because they think their cursory knowledge of Japanese plus Google Translate makes them subbing experts.
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>>153726287
>>153726403
>>153726274
>>153726271

Nothing is sacred anymore?
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>>153726377
>>153726386
What would she react like when she finds out the truth?
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>>153726471
Next thing you'll tell me is that they've taken Yotsuba off the front page.
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>>153726471
Oh anon, if only you knew the things I've done.
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>>153726492
Truth about what? Homosexuality is evil, Raphi is not lying.
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>>153726460
So he hates the show and can only stomach it with memesubs and people who enjoy and want to see the author's original work should fuck off.
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>>153726452
>People still going on about subs.
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>>153726527
That she's been doing something very lewd to Raphi I mean, she'd get all flustered wouldn't she?
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>>153726508
I have good news for you
You can lewdify yotsuba without getting banned now
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>>153726471
You cannot call sacred Ayano's baby hole now and you can blame me for it.
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>>153726465
>There is nothing wrong with half the translations that get posted in these threads.
Indeed, through the dark lord, amen.
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I guess CR really outdid themselves this time
>>153717220
>>153721139
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>>153726471
>marriage isn't sacred
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>>153726465
>Hells bells
>Japanese kid being super rude with his mother watching
>Dark lord
>Faith Move Mt Vigne
>etc..
>nothing wrong
Nice try herkz
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memecartel in full damage control so they don't get fired from Crunchy and have to go back to sucking dicks for crack.
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>>153726601
>You've never heard the phrase "faith moves mountains" before? Sounds like you need more God in your life, friend.
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>>153724502
>The show isn't that funny, but for me the subs somehow redeem it;

I swear, Nyaa has to be full of redditors
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Official best Dropouts power ranking:

1. Satania
2. Vigne
3. Tapris
4. Class Rep
5. Sensei
6. Raphiel
7. Coffee Shop Owner
8. Dog

POWER GAP

9999. Gabriel
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>>153726567
She'd come to terms with her feelings.
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>>153726663
>Raphiel below Sensei
That's just shameful anon-kun.
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>>153726580
Saying grace is literally the western equivalent of your beloved "itadakimasu"
>>153726601
I said half the translations. Obviously some of them are inexcusable. See my earlier post quoting specific ones in this thread
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>>153726465
Hi Herkz, how are you?
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>>153726465
>you guys don't even really know English
>not an assumption
Are you sure you're not just projecting?
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>>153726715
Not true. One is religious, the other is said by even atheists.
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There is literally nothing wrong with the subtitles.
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>>153726660
Even on reddit there are many people who are complaining about those subs. Only mentally ill dumbfucks are praising that kind of 'translations'.
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>>153725350
Good edit
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>>153726772
Herkz please meme your're self out of reality.
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>>153726805
Go back
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>>153726663
Move Raphiel above Tap and I'll agree.
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>>153726772
I imagine Satania us the one doing these subs with the largest shit-eating grin for some reason
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Whoa, are they actually trying to act like the cartel isn't real?
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>>153726834
can i fuck this hamster
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Time to summon Daiz.

10-bit
.H264
encoding
jacob
Crunchyroll
Underwater
bald faggot

Fuck, i don´t remember the rest
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KERUBERUSU

Vigne is the cutest
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I want to be Vigne's chair.
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>[ESL] Gabriel DropOut - 06 [720p].ass
>[ESL] Gabriel DropOut - 07 [720p].ass
But where can I find 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5?
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>>153726818
I love it when a devilish plan comes together.
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>>153726879
Nowhere
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>>153726767
Do you realize how that custom came about in Japan?
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>>153723265
>>153723368
>>153723421
These are legit funny. STAHP
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>>153726871
>no killing fansubbing
>VA assasination
>trying to kill panda with jewbucks
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>>153726878
I want to be Vigne's toilet bowl.
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>>153726879
nowhere
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>>153726879
There is no earlier dememed episodes yet.
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>>153726879
There are only 2 episodes made by that anon, you need to watch it from other groups.
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>>153725350
>rub a dub dub thanks for the grub
Every single time.
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>>153726899
>Americans laugh and clap whenever a Japanese person says "itadakimasu"
Now I truly see
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>>153726871
Is Daiz still alive? Last time he posted his picture he looked like a cancer patient
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>>153726072
>>153725993
>people PAY for THIS
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>>153726897
Doesn't matter, unless it's set in the past, "Grace" is not a reasonable translation. "Time to eat" would be more accurate.
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>>153726919
Does FFF have the endcards at least? I didn't even realize this show had them until now
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>>153725350
>Commie

everytime
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>>153726871
Just post the video senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20PwaJYcnuk
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>>153724502
It's hilarious that he's saying that translators that assume the audience knows what honorifics mean (aka the most basic of the basics that even Narutards know), but assuming knowledge of obscure, or even nonexistant, English idioms is perfectly fine.
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>>153726871
Get in here Daiz you anti-spiral looking bastard.
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>>153726879
Time for hella devilish memes man.
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>>153726936
rub a dub dub
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>>153726945
Accurate?
>time to eat
Seriously?
Of course it would be better than CR shit, but it wouldn't be accurate at all.
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>>153726908
You understand she doesn't just pee right anon?
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>>153723368
>>153723846

dear. fucking. god
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>>153726465
In all seriousness it is time for me to learn Japanese.
>you are now thinking about how if you started learning it all those years ago you could've been speaking it by now
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>>153727033
Go away /co/
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>>153726996
Considering it doesn't mean anything really, time to eat is perfectly fine.
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>>153727033
Fuck off, tumblr
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>>153727005
>He doesn't want Vigne to shit on him
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>>153725350
Too tall to be a viable substitute for old meme image, but still funny nonetheless.
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>>153727033
Fuck off.
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Just got home and want to watch my wife be wonderful.
Are ESL subs actually not a meme like horriblesubs and FFF?
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>>153725591
It's ironic cute, a prim and proper demon giving thanks to the personification of evil
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>>153727035
>thinking about how if you started learning it all those years ago you could've been speaking it by now

These thoughts always get me because I never finish learning anything and years pass by and I'm still at square one
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>>153727089
Your wife is gonna have my baby, sorry
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episode wasn't very good tbqhfamalamadingdong

it was directionless as fuck and didn't focus on either gab or vigne's stipend plot
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>>153727035
>>you are now thinking about how if you started learning it all those years ago you could've been speaking it by now
Thought that last time a year ago, never more.
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This is a demon from hell.
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>>153725764
Endcards are deeply rooted in Japanese culture. English audiences would just find them confusing.
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>>153723265
>Lord be praised for blessing us with this sustenance.
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>>153727089
ESL are totally dememed. Best option for Gabuchan
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>>153725280
the biggest hit before gamergate was actually the habbo raids in 06, and battletoads were also a large 07 hit.
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>>153727089
I guess so, since the download numbers are astronomically high for something made by an non-group competing with Horriblesubs.
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>>153727104
She'll probably be too bored to even have a baby.
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>>153726945
Ignoring the (still existing) people that subscribe to the spiritual aspect, in the modern context it's still done to be polite and show respect
In the west, if you're eating a proper meal with religious persons, you would join them and wait for Grace before you start eating as well.
Get out of here with your fedora bullshit, the translation is fine
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>>153727154
Wait, are endcards in a whole lot more shows than I'm aware? I remember HorribleSubs Nisekoi has them intact. Are they often cut?
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>They don't realize CR is pretending Satania is doing the subbing wrong as a devilish act
>>
>last week satania episode
>this week vigne episode
>both were perfect.
Hopefully they will never go back to angel episodes.
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>>153727073
I'd rather do devilish actions with her body instead of her bodily waste.
though I wouldn't mind being her seat like the other anon.
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>>153727067
It actually shows the respect for the people who made the food, an act of gratitude when you receive it (Japanese people are explaining it in this way) - it doesn't matter if you are eating a food prepared by yourself, because it's a general gratitude for being able to eat it.
So thanks for the food is probably the most accurate way to translate it.
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>>153725993
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>>153727220
It's just a ritualistic habit, like saying tadaima even when alone.
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>>153727171
Not entirely, he missed a few lines this episode.
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>>153727240
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>>153727251
>focusing on Vigne
>perfect
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>>153727152
wtf I'm a Satanist now
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>>153727283
Is she saying she should dress like a slut.
And "raise hell" means "erect dicks"?
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>>153727310
>focusing on best girl
>not perfect
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>>153727005
Vigne's shit probably tastes like fudge topped with cinnamon sprinkles.
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Anyone have a pic of the Gab pile-up?
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>>153727328
She meant "dressing in a way that would make you raise hell's birth rate"
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>>153727154
I bet you aren't even fluent in Japanese, how can I trust you?
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>>153725718
>yuuki hagure
MUH
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>>153727131
>and didn't focus on either gab or vigne's stipend plot

That's because the stipend thing was anime original and tacked onto scenes from a couple of manga chapters that are like 10 chapters apart from each other. In the manga their money from heaven/hell seems to be fixed and they don't give there reports on how they're doing (Outside of turning in "homework" like the survey on bachelors) until they return home later on.

The manga has been pretty heavily shuffling chapters around and adding some scenes in to try and connect them.
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>>153727282
It's a habit because it's drilled into them from when they are kids. And it's drilled into them because being polite and respectful is important to their culture
I really can't fathom how you have such a problem with this translation
>>
Cute
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>>153727368
Nice meme.
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>>153727354
What would Vigne smell like?
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>>153726953
Fucking this. Since English is not my mother tongue oftentimes I have to revert to Japanese to find out what the fuck did they mean with a certain line. Like the tickle pink shit or throw a homer.

Have best girl.
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>>153727260
If you're going to offer your face to her, you might as well go all the way.
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>>153727328
She said something close to "Then, how about dressing in a devilish way?", which was followed by >>153726320, but since they must remind the viewers that they're related to heaven or hell at least 999 times per episode, the translator decided to change the wording.
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>>153727220
The translation is not fine as it's not meant in a religious way retard. it's funny just imagining every instance of itadakimasu, no matter who is doing it, turned into a prayer because of autists like you who can't into other cultures or languages
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>>153727393
Because it's completely made up? And you've just admitted it's a meaningless phrase with no real meaning unless said by an actual buddhist monk.
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>>153727393
Because Vigne is not the kind of character who would praise Satan all day. Did you even watch the episode?
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>>153727424
Sulfur and dried blood
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>>153727376
>The manga has been pretty heavily shuffling chapters around

The anime* has been
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>>153727498
Angels and demons are made up as well what's your point?
>>
there's no way I could live with Vigne
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>>153727464
>but since they must remind the viewers that they're related to heaven or hell at least 999 times per episode,

I think you mean 666 times per episode.
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>>153727233
>Are they often cut?
Yeah, but I have no idea what determines if they keep them or not. CR have absolutely no quality standards so it's inconsistent as fuck.
>>
I wonder how ACK feels about these subs?
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We need more Vigne & Master together desu.
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>>153727220
Nowadays itadakimasu is being used just as bon apetite, not like grace. Stop trying to protect this shit.
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Vigne a CUTE
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>>153727576
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I want to steal Vigne's diary and read all of it in front of her class!
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>>153727424
Sulfur and brimstone.
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>>153727534
Good point, checkmate atheists.
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>>153724502
>https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=901193
Holy shit Herkz is a walking saltmining operation.
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>>153727465
The translation isn't meant to force religion on you.
It's a translation to explain her phrase and ritual in a way western audiences can understand.
And if you'd look beyond your fedora you might notice much of the western world is religious
>>153727498
I wasn't really going to reply to you but enjoy this (You) on me
>>153727529
That's kind of beside my point, but Vigne isn't ashamed of being a demon. Just like Satania she puts effort into doing bad deeds but isn't really cut out for being a demon
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>>153727634
Agreed, I'd just love a doujins of him teaching her how to perform "bad deeds", if you catch my drift.
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>>153727658
No! It would be embarrassing!
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>>153727658
I love how she records things so faithfully in there. Imagine what it would be like if she started dating.

>Anon-kun kissed me today. I was really embarrassed. Did I taste okay?
>Anon-kun came inside me for the first time. It felt really lewd...
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> Everybody complaining about the subs
> Meanwhile superior spanish subs deliver earlier and better

chupate esa
>>
>"Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya!"

What did Gabriel mean by this statement and is this really the proper translation of じゃあね
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>>153727697
Do you enjoy pretending to be retarded all day?
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>>153727725
It would be actually interesting to see what she does in her everyday life outside school by herself.
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>>153727743
At least we were saved by ESL-kun before it was too late.
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>>153727328
She said "Dress like a demon."
"Raise Hell" means "cause an uproar"

For example:
CRs subs are raising hell on /a/.
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>>153727761
xd good 1 anon kun gomen
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>>153727743
>being a spic
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>>153727409
A shame, you seemed an honest man.
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>>153723265
wew lad
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>>153727786
>For example:
>CRs subs are raising hell on /a/.

Faith moves mount Anon
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>>153727697
>That's kind of beside my point, but Vigne isn't ashamed of being a demon. Just like Satania she puts effort into doing bad deeds but isn't really cut out for being a demon
Is Vigne expanded on in the manga? I want to know if she was EVER really cut out for being a demon even back in hell, or like Gab she was affected by the human world, before she met Gab of course.
>>
My fucking god, I could write a 6-pages (minimum) essay about how bad, noxious and incorrect the subs are.
>>
>>153727743
Having shit subs is still better than being a spic.
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>>153727743
Parce mamela
>>
>she sees your bank account
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>>153727905
>>153723265
>>153723421
>>153723368
This is the type of shit translation you expect to see in an English dub not the fucking subbed version of a show
>>
>>153727743
Is that supposed to be the SDM? That thing looks bigger than 3 fucking castles.
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>>153724502
wtf I hate Concrete Revolutio now

Seriously though, this bassgs guy is a fucking idiot.
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>>153727713
N-no! He's a filthy old man anon!
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>>153727989
Demons love old men.
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I really want to smell Vigne. I want to bury my face into her body and take deep breaths.
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I don't get how NOT knowing even the most basic of japanese would make inserting angel/demon idiom/puns into everything tolerable. It's stupid and actively hurts the series by downgrading it into some 14year old's fanfiction. "Hehehe get it they're demons so they mention hell/devil alot, because they're demons lol"
>>
>>153727989
He's also a """bean""" connoisseur, if you grab my implication.
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>>153727928
Her hometown in Hell is the same as Satania's and basically a Japanese suburb. Her mom is a housewife and doesn't seem to be disappointment in her or anything and she doesn't seem to dislike or dread going back to hell at all so I doubt she was ostracized. Keep in mind the stipend based on good/evil thing was anime original. Mostly she just seems depressed that she isn't like a proper devil.
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>>153728081
I want to sample Vigne's little bean
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>>153727943
>>153727846
>2000+17
>not being bilingue
ishygddt
>>
>>153728070
>Taking anything this chronic shitposter says seriously.
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>>153728081
>You'll never get whipped by Vigne.
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>>153728132
>picking spicspeak as second language
That's even worse
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so whens the new chapter coming out?
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>>153728118
How would like your Vigne's bean, sir?
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>Satania appears
>instant best part of the episode

Really makes you think
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>>153723904
I can't believe she only stays in bed for 6:45 hours.
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>>153728175
Raw and piping hot, please
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>>153728070
Man I'm glad that I've somehow blocked Nyaa's avatars. I don't even remember what I did anymore.
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>>153728218
>Not using the horns to hold onto.
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>>153726871
Here
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>>153728218
Vigne wouldn't spread her legs unless it's way more money than that
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>>153728070
It's a sad attempt to try and get people banned for pony posting.
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>>153728240
Stop giving me boners, anon. I want to sleep.
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Wait

why is a devil's last name McDowell?
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>>153727971
>>153728070

Translation: We're putting out a terrible sub because our primary audience is too stupid to know any different.
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>>153728247
>cosplaying as one-punch man
My sides
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Bad news. Friend has been timing for the past 10 hours or so, and he's still not done. No idea when it'll actually get released.

This is why I asked for a fast typesetter last week.
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>>153728333
>Friend has been timing for the past 10 hours or so,
Oh fuck no, I guess Daiz got another one.
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So devilish.
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>>153728381
Add it to the list.
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>>153727094
Translation =/= rewrite, I don't want to watch your show, I want to watch Gabriel Dropout.
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Satania needs a transparency here.
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>>153728333
Oh right. Forgot someone else was doing it. Looking forward to it, mate.
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>>153728443
Are you psychic?
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Allow me to bring some different points to the discussion. First of all, we should realistically consider that the CR's translation are meant for a broad audience that don't know Japanese and that subtitles are not to be used primary as tool for learning a new language. Many of the cultural puns are too literal to be properly translated, so some sort of adaptation is needed. These 3 used to be the main arguments for those defending the liberal subs of this show and they are not incorrect arguments. However, they fail to take in account the proportional degree of changes that were incurred in this translation. All those defending that "you are not native so you can't judge as well as the translator" are using a lazy argument. The ad authority argument of quoting a couple of native Japanese speakers that are not actually professional translators don't help their case either, as most of those people haven't actually graduated in language and learned about TRANSLATION ETHICS. Of course it may sound foolish to talk about ethics when dealing with such a casual show such as this, but the point is still valid and I bring to question if CR even use professional Japanese Language graduates or just someone with some amateur proficiency certificate.

Continues.
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>>153724425
>>153724605
If either of you want to try for a better looping version, I think the fog stabilizes around the fourth or fifth Gabu.
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rude
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>>153728604
North Americans have lower standards when it comes to subbing or dubbing. Because English natives grew up accustomed to consume the entertainment from the largest dominant industry in the world in their own language. They are extremely self-centered and resistant to absorve and learn costumes from different cultures. Let's take examples from a different perspective than from an US-centric perspective: When other countries watch content subbed from English to their native language, a large portion of the audience actually have some level of English understanding. Back in the 90's, there used to have many shows subbed from English to my own language in the television, with pretty liberal and imprecise subs. The subs worked for people enjoying shallow comedies and daily life shows such as Friends or Seinfield, even if they missed most of the actual puns and situational jokes. Back then, most people didn't know nothing of English here. But as time passed, education evolved and the standards for subtitles changed accordingly. Now, the standard is much higher, professionals graduated in English language are the ones hired for making subs, not anyone with a measly Toefl certificate. And while there are guidelines are for very specific situational puns to be adapted whenever possible, most of the subs should still be as neutral as possible as to avoid DISTRACTION.
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Reminder that Herkz genuinely believes that your average everyday person's regular face to face conversations sound as if it's just two people reading random pages from Knowyourmeme to each other.
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>>153728489
Praise hell
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>>153728639
Really? That's so sad! My sides!
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>>153728637
Psychological cognitive research has shown that audiovisual media with subtitles demands quite a lot of sensory attention, and any distraction, such as overly large subs, double lines or difficult long words could be detrimental to the immersion of the spectator, so when a sub is too off from what is actually being said, many people with some familiarity of the language will notice the discrepancy. It is also important to note that this sort of standards are not exclusive to English and are actually taken for any other languages that need to be translated in television or cinema, be it Spanish French or Japanese. The improvement of the standards back in the 00's were actually partially pushed by spectators complains, as well as taking in consideration the international standards in translation basic on ethic principles. I confirmed this sort of tendency with friends from Spain, French and Sweden, two of which are actually graduated in languages and familiar with subtitle standards. So, the point I'm trying to get here, is that just because Japanese is not a common language, and the main target audience still has low standards, this doesn't mean that is ok to follow old now obsoleted and criticized amateurish standards in translation. There is a limit in how much one can butcher the original content and try to adapt the culture being translated to your own language. It's impossible to do that properly and the practice is now to understand that many aspects of the culture should be preserved and left for the reader to learn and understand the culture as to better understand the original medium, even if he doesn't understand the language.
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>>153728395
I actually thought she waged class but it turned out she just got a cold, was sad about it.
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>>153728676
fuck off
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>>153728676
tl;dr
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>>153728676
In conclusion:

Language only exists as a reflex to a culture, to fully learn a language you should imerse in the culture, however, it is not true that one can't learn some aspects of a different culture before actually dominating its language, and this is why translations shouldn't butcher the original content too much, this is why ethics in translation exists.
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>>153728604
>>153728637
>>153728676
I'm not reading all this shit

No one minds a little liberalism, just don't flood my show with your memes, and don't rewrite it so it completely changes the meaning and scene.

There's a reason you're a translator and not a writer.
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>>153725261
>Most of you whining about translations don't even know English well enough to realize when a translation is bad or not. Unironically recommend ESL subs for you

You translate itadakimasu as Thanks for the food.

Fucking dumb american faggot.
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>Lucid dreaming
>Walking through a pleasant countryside
>Hear snoring
>Look over
>See this

Wat do, /a/?
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>>153728631
Their skin colour looks similar but I can't help but feel like Satania's skin looks a little more like the dirty Jap-kind.
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double rude
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>>153728778
Dive into that.
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>>153728778
Be confused on what to actually do, should I lewd? Should wake them up? Should I sleep with them?
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>>153726879
>[Satania] Gabriel DropOut - 05 [720p].mkv
>https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=899993
Sadly no more than this.
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>>153728778
Dick all of them. No question.
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>>153728778
Keep taking pictures.
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>>153728749
If you don't want to read the text then don't assume I'm defending the subs, if you had reached the third line of the text you would have realized that, dumbass.
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>>153728778
I want to be that Gab that is kissing that Gab ass
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>>153728773
>sitting alone in a room, about to eat
>"Thanks for the food!"

>good translation
fuck off baka gaijin
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>>153728812
Gabu doesn't deserve Vigne as friend
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This is the worst gabu thread ever.
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Full OP when?
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>>153723265
>>153723368
>>153723421
>>153723514
>>153723570
>>153723756
>>153723846
This is why I started learning Japanese 9 months ago. Watching raw anime episodes is amazing.
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>>153728920
It can be worse. ACK isn't here yet.
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>>153728883
It's literally giving thanks to be able to eat the fucking food. You know fucking elevens say Tadaima! even though they're alone right, you fucking retard?
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>>153725845
>the outfit is now canon

YESSSSSSSSSS
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>>153728883
This: >>153728950

It's what Japanese do.
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Gab sure knows how to take the piss out of Vigne.
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>>153727278
Viewster is the best way to watch Ninja Slayer.
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>>153728920
You missed last weeks thread then.
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>Is your dick that small anon?
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>>153728604
>>153728637
>>153728676

There wasn't anything resembles a pun in that sentence, translating as ''Thanks for the food'' would be decent but no, that minimum wage translator had to force his shitty humor to the script.

Also, writing a shitty wall of text nothing but psuedo-science is neither a good way to argue nor troll people.
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>>153728937

> started learning Japanese 9 months ago
> Watching raw anime

Get a load of this cunt
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>>153723949
To be fair, I burst out laughing when I read that.
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>>153728070
These are the same people that think you should localize every Japanese cultural reference otherwise you're a weeb. I saw Tanabata once translated into Thanksgiving.
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>>153728950
>literally giving thanks to be able to eat the fucking food
so you managed to comprehend this context but somehow think literally thanking nobody in English is more fit than saying grace?
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Vigne is too pure for evil, she'll end up trading places with gab in the end won't she
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>>153727409
Aoba or Vigne?
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>>153729004
Vigne a CUTE
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>>153728604
>>153728637
>>153728676

American here. I don't watch anime expecting or desiring to see the script changed to be a bad TV sitcom complete with dad jokes and corny puns while pushing stale internet memes in an attempt to be hip. If I wanted that I would just watch regular TV.

Based on the comments at Nyaa and CR a lot of their viewers don't want that either.

Also, trying to defend the craptastic subs by saying that they're meant for people who have no understanding of Japanese is just arrogant and inconsiderate to those viewers. It's basically saying that they don't understand anyways so that excuses CR doing whatever the fuck they wanted with the subs despite this being a supposed "Professional" release that a fair amount of people paid for.
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>>153729101
Why are you so mad
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>>153729045
He's not even defending it, did you even read it? you guys have the attention span of fucking 5 year olds. God forbid someone actually posts something informative and people glance over it because 2 many werds.
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>>153728773
That's not what it literally means though. You're demanding an EXTREMELY specific level of localization
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>>153725074
But Vigne's the star this week. Let's talk scapula jobs.
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>>153729101
Don't you mean:

Gee willy willikers gosh darnit, get a looker at this shoestripper of a wee lad
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>>153728778
Cover my nose. She lives in a room literally covered in dirty dishes, dirty laundry, and trash. She probably reeks.
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This lullaby was so cute
>Vigne dreams of Gabriel
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>>153729133
>You think a phrase used by Japanese people to thank nobody for the food without any religious context should be translated as giving thanks for the food without any religious context? What? They should be saying a prayer instead!
You're a fucking retard. Through the Dark Lord. Amen.

Rub a dub dub is more accurate to the spirit of itadakimasu being used today than saying grace.
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>>153729201
How do I sell my soul to this demon?
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Someone please link the thread where the stitches for this episode were posted
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>>153725194
Two in the pink, one in the sink? SHA-KING
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>>153727846
>>153727943
I'm white
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>>153729190
>did you even read it

Yes, I did. It was hella garbage.
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>>153728877
learn to be succinct and write long posts as if they were an executive summary.
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>>153728877
Short and concise > Verbal diarhea
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>3 threads shitting on the same thing
This is fun in a way it shouldn't be.
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>>153729186
Read the thing entirely, your dumbfuck, He wasn't defending the subs, much the contrary.
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>>153729190
t dosn't matter because it makes no meaninglful point and is inconcise, irrelevant, pointless wall of text. So it's a garbage post and you shoud feel bad for dumping a wall of text without considering context. If this was a genuine attempt and not a a way of getting some (you), shame on you.
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>>153729253
Three in the stink.
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Doujin of both Gab and Vigne going into prostitution when?
>Gab just lays there like a cold fish and plays her games
>Vigne is shy and doesn't want to do it (but ultimately does because it's hentai)
>Satania finds out and fucks Gab with her futa dick
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>>153729008
It's the one show that I think the "it matches the original humor" argument applies to. It helps that they don't actually fuck with the dialogue and just add baka gaijin notes.
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Audio webm of the ED when
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>>153727278
>>153729008
>>153729414
Damn, man. I missed out when this was airing.
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>>153728423
Then watch it raw, because any translation will require a degree of rewriting
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>>153729235
You can't unless you're Gab.
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>>153729226
I've already seen enough fedora tipping from dense anons today.
Seems like you're just hung up on any hint of religion penetrating your precious weebspace.
Rub a dub dub would've been a decent enough translation as well if the phrase was actually still in circulation
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>>153728749
>>153729045
>>153729186

You realize people don't actually deserve good subs when they can't even sweep for 10 seconds a text and realize it is actually saying the same thing they believe while assuming the opposite.
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>Kuma
>Akuma
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>>153729453
I wish I were the Gabu.
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>>153729436
>want to listen to the lullaby while going to sleep
I sort of need this
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>>153729344
I know, I was saying those points he used to try and add a more balanced view to his argument are bullshit regardless of whether he was for or against them.
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>>153729452
Rewrite =/= REWRITE
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>>153728218
I wonder why she will not just do it to fix problems from last episode
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>>153729484
I get it
They sound similar, but mean different things
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>>153723265
anyone else disappointed she didn't just start working at the coffee shop instead of trying to be more demonic?
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>>153729235
She doesn't have money. Did you even watch the episode?
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>>153729502
>words no longer mean what they mean
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>>153729453
Angels don't sell their soul to demons, only humans can.
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If your enjoyment of the show is seriously destroyed because the lighthearted and funny script localization sets off alarm bells because it doesn't line up precisely with one of the six Japanese words you know, do yourself a favor and just drop it. Honestly, you can find better things to do with your time.

I torrent my anime but I resubbed to Crunchy just because I feel like they deserve my support again because of Gabriel Dropout
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>>153729456
>Fedora tipping
I'm Catholic, you fucking moron. I just understand the difference between itadakimasu and a literal prayer. You would somehow manage to be a worse translator than the dumbasses at CR.

>Thank you, Lord Jesus for the food.
It makes zero sense. Do you think the Japanese translate prayers in American films and literature to just empty cultural phrases like that? Or do you think they use Buddhist verses instead?
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Neko Vigne!
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>>153728778
Walk over. Clearly something there causes incredibly restful sleeps.
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>>153729456
As if Grace is actually still in circulation.
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>>153729545
That's a funny post, you earned this (You).
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>>153729522
She's housewife material, she isn't supposed to work.
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>>153729353
It may be slightly verbose but that doesn't mean it's irrelevant because you can't be arsed spending half a minute reading it.
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>>153729237
pls respond
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>>153728778
wonder if i stumbled back in time to nazi germany and i've come across a pile of holocaust victims
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I think I might have diabetes.
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>Computer is somehow on a game
>Left clicks
>Can immediately make a character without making am account

Huh?

Also shit game. Sells cheat items.
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>>153729452
>any translation
You realize there are people here who have been watching subbed anime since the 80s and others who have watched months worth of content? Why do you think only this show is causing such dissatisfaction? Sure buddy, the problem is in the process of translation in general.
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>>153729537
Because a rewrite and a translation are totally the same thing amirite? That's why there are two words for the exact same thing. No wait. Something seems wrong here.
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>>153728778
Pass out with my dick in their mouth because of all the stank.
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>>153729484
I don't get it.

Can someone explain it to me using devil puns?
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>>153729635
Plot twist: Gab actually fell for a true devil's scheme.
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>>153729672
What's funny is that this was one of the few actual devil puns in the episode. And CR changed it to not be a devil pun.
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>>153728738
>>153728676
>>153728637
>>153728604
You said exactly what I've been trying to express for the past hours. A discussion like this is needed but both the fucktards here and the staff of nyaa (and of course crunchy) negate to take it seriously. Is beyond what pun is localized or not, is about the reasons behind that localization and how far they take it to their own culture. A lot of the things that you mention is basically the "professional" translator not being professional at all, not knowing a shit about ethics of the media and setting aside the issue.
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>>153727424
Sulfur and lilac.
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>>153728883
It's not like Japanese people actually do this, that'd be stupid.
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I want to smell Vigne's morning breath.
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>>153729353
I only added the arguments from the cartel in the beginning of the text precisely to slowly dismantle then later and make a more solid argumentation. I wasn't trying to be unnecessarily balanced, I was trying to be serious, you are just a lazy ass who didn't go past the first paragraph.
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>>153729622
I think I fell for a demons trap.
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>>153729546
In western audiences, even those who aren't religious recognize that saying grace is a form of giving thanks for the food and paying your respects.
If you're eating with people who say grace, even if you don't join the prayer, it is polite to wait until for everyone before you eat. Sound familiar?
It should because the translation did it's fucking job you god damned autist. How about you go watch the raw Japanese or at least pick a more egregious translation to whine about.
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>>153729646
How is it a REWRITE? We in the West don't say "thanks for the good", we say grace (well, many people used to). That's a cultural artifact that gets lost if you do literal translation. Plus it's cute.
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>>153729740
reminds me of this
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>>153729130
These people need to off themselves. Good thing they're too autistic to breed.
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>>153729600
Just search the archives for Gabriel Dropout.
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>>153728604
One quick question. Do you realize that USA is not the only country which is using English language?
Do you realize that most of people watching animes in English because in their own language they have only shitty subs like this one form CR, or even worse? (same goes to manga, I'm buying English manga, because translations in my country are retarded and completely rewritten - it costs me a lot more but I decided to not giving a single penny for shit work for brain damaged people )
I don't care about burger part of audience (but burger I mean brainless zombies, not all American people). I'm ESL, maybe I can't write with proper grammar, but I understand English perfectly, so I can critique shitty subs like this, especially than I'm learning Japanese too (as my 3rd language).
I'm using English subs as a support. I'm looking at it when I couldn't hear something which characters said. I'm expecting actual TRANSLATION, not rewrite.
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>>153726655
>so they don't get fired from Crunchy and have to go back to sucking dicks or crack.
Ftfy
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>>153729747
Thanks, I actually wanted to post that text on the comments when FFF release the next episode but I'm afraind Herkz my get butthurt and purge my torrents if I do that. He has actually locked comment son my torrents before.
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>>153729767
It'll be smelly.
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The meme cartel is here.

When even your most faithful subscribers call you out for being shit you should take a fucking hint and not double down on being shit.
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>>153729600
>was already told it was two threads ago
>still too lazy to look for it himself
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>>153729812
Follow the quote chain.
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>>153729642
Because people like to whine? Stella no Mahou had actual bad subs, and people decided to sub it on their own because the subs were not actually what the people were saying. These subs are simply more localized/stylized (apart from a few legit TL quirks). Your displeasure at translating things and concepts liberally is not the same as translating things flat out wrong
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>>153729890
What?
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>>153729801
>In western audiences, even those who aren't religious recognize that saying grace is a form of giving thanks for the food and paying your respects.
Saying grace is a prayer. It's multiple lines of added dialogue. Itadakimasu is a cultural phrase that consists of a single word. Can you spot the fucking difference?

>wh-why don't you watch raw
Why don't you quit being fucking retarded? Even if I watched the raw, I would still call you a fucking moron for trying to replace itadakimasu with a prayer.

Go ahead, anon. Would you write up a new prayer everytime someone says Itadakimasu? Or will you pretend there's a single way of saying grace that's culturally ubiquitous in America?

You're fucking retarded.
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>>153729195
Why are you so against translating saying thanks as saying thanks?

Also, Japanese dictionaries say it's "let's eat!"/"thanks for the food". Even the Japanese disagree with you.
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>>153729845
Yes, I was going to add a point in how English is an universal language and how adding specific localized American slang was a bad practice (I actually had, non-ironically, more sentences that I didn't know in English than in Japanese for episode 3, and I do have an IELTS academic certificate.) but the cartel could easily debunk that saying that "CR is an US service for US paying users, fuck ESLs." so I didn't bother making the text longer for that argument.
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>>153729785
Protip: Show respect to your audience by learning spacing, and how to quote (Hint: even " " will do you fucking illiterate). If you don't show respect, don't complain when you don't get any back. Nobody is going to praise you for literal diarrhea, so why expect the same for your textual diarrhea.
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>>153729870
If you don't care about copyright or you aren't paranoid about plagiarism, I could post it for you. Or just create another account and do it, it's worth and the staff there would be too retarded to come up with any good arguments against it. You might aswell improve it a little and send it to the fucktards at CR.
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>>153729874
It'll smell like flowers.
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>>153729812
He already explained it. Vigne is meant to be a good girl. The entire point of the intro sequence is comparing her, the devil that's good, with Gab, the angel that's shit. Editing lines so they praise Satan makes her less of a good girl so it hurts the joke.
In addition, the constant heaven/hell references are bad for another reason, seeing how they reduce the characters to angel/devil stereotypes. Instead of their lines being based off their characters their lines are based off their species (or maybe not species, but, you know). This hurts their characterisation. Gab saying something angel related because she's an angel and all angels must talk like that is a lot worse writing than Gab saying something appropriate for Gab because that's how she talks.
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>>153729767
I want Vigne to take care of my morning wood.
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>>153729870
Make a new account to post it on? Though CR apologists are probably watching this thread so they'd probably know it was someone here when you do and just say you're a faggot anon.
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>>153728778
masturbate
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>>153730052
If the demons aren't bad girls why would the devil be a bad guy? If she was praising god, who is the bad guy in the universe, it would be out-of-character.
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>>153729979
The worse part is that typically for these shitty translators it's not just slang, but bizarre slang from some inbred part of America somewhere that probably won't even be heard in the same state, let alone the country.
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>>153730022
> the cartel could easily debunk that saying that "CR is an US service for US paying users, fuck ESLs."
Throw it back at them by pointing out the fact they have have a UK/Ireland service that uses the same scripts.
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I want to fall asleep to Vigne's singing!
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>>153730101
>If she was praising god
HMMMMM MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT SHE WASN'T FUCKING PRAYING
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>>153729812
I'm not saying he should translate it into "I humbly accept." Why was that Dark Lord bullshit? English speakers have been consuming translated Japanese media for a long time and there are familiar agreed upon translations for common Japanese phrases like Itadakimasu, otsukaresama, tadaima/okaeri...etc. There was no need to reinvent the wheel especially in such a hamfisted manner.
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>>153730101
I don't think it's ever been indicated that God and Satan are similarly bad at their roles like the main characters are
It's certainly not the translator's place to invent worldbuilding
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>Through the Dark Lord. Amen.
This CR translator actually makes Commie/gg look good in comparison.
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>>153730052
Why does it make her any less of a good girl? She's a demon; she wouldn't praise God.

I disagree slightly. Sure, oversaturation of the heaven/hell puns just makes them too corny, but sometimes they are fitting. I got a good chuckle of the ones with Vigne this episode, and with Satania last episode. Some of them are pretty bad though. But they're there also to add a level of irony- Satania's "bad girl" image is shown in higher contrast between her usage of hell-puns and tough attitude with her ultimately weak and hilariously not-bad actions. Also, the West has a lot of speech that reflects God/religion in some way (things like "bless you" and "to hell with it" come to mind- stock expressions that nevertheless had a different meaning before)
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>>153730030
Just do it, I don't care, through the text still needs to be proofread one more time, I found many errors as I was re-reading. Posting it like that would easily trigger some "you don't even know how to write English properly stfu"
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>>153729968
>hurr prayer
>hurr retard
All you do is harp on about insignificant points and scream retard.
The translation does not add multiple lines and conveys that she's giving thanks for the food in a customary manner.
The translation is fine for a western audience no matter how much you sperg out on /a/
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>>153729600
If you pray the dark lord, I might consider posting them
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>>153730178
Anon, you are going too far now.
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>>153730149
Why are all translations the same, when not all situations are the same? Would a delinquent, a child, and a CEO all say "itadakimasu" and have it translated the same way? Are all 3 "itadakimasu"s all the same with meaning and intent?
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>>153730225
Rub a dub dub is actually more accurate than the show's subs.
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>>153730215
Never mind I found them
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>>153730035
So she'll taste like flowers?
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The subs cancer rages on.
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>>153730178
What's next, are you going to say they're even worse than Hadena?
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>>153730101
They are meant to be bad. Vigne is an exception. Have you watched the show?
Bringing up praising god out of nowhere is just you resorting to attacking a strawman because you have no arguments. I'm going to stop responding to you now because you're obviously acting in bad faith instead of trying to discuss this. Fuck you.
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>>153730134
They should localize everything in bong, the memes would at least be funny then
>Thank you my lady the queen for these bangers and mash

>Oi gab ew 'avin a giggle?

>Dat cheeky mutt done stole my bread again he did.
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>>153730246
Yeah sure, why not.
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>>153730262
Yes. That's her natural taste.
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subs sucks
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>>153730246
They would, if they were saying it before eating.
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>>153730101
>If she was praising god, who is the bad guy in the universe, it would be out-of-character.

She wasn't praying at all.
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>>153730211
Changing the meaning of whole scene if fine for you? You have really low standards. But don't look at other people by yourself.
I do care about authenticy of translation and how faithful it is to original script. Changing generic phrases like 'thanks for the food' for satan praising is way beyond any level of idiocy.
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>>153730316
i want to deflower her
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>>153730298
Why? That doesn't make sense. It's like love- to translate it in greek, it's not one size fits all.
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>>153730246
Because it has a singular meaning. Any irony, sarcasm, or ulterior emotions are expressed through the voice acting.
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Most of the cartel is actually defending the subs because they are actually bitter faggots who hates "ungrateful leechers" and wants to troll them as much as possible, they don't even find the translations good themselves. It's quite pathetic.
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>>153730362
You're the one not making sense, m8.
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>>153727409
>crescent
That's a sun-bear, isn't it?
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>>153730278
I'd understand more of the show watching in raw, them.
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>>153730278
They should've done this with Kiniro Mosaic.
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>>153730357
Do you really want to complain so much that you stretch the truth this far?
The meaning of the scene barely changes if at all.
She says thanks for the food and then she fucking eats it. Your autism is showing
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>>153730269
Worse than 4kids
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>>153730404
Why not? You can say "fuck you" to a friend and an enemy, but one of them is friendly and one of them is serious. You wouldn't translate them with the same words if the intents are different.

>>153730365
Sometimes it's not possible to discern all that if you're not fluent in the language.
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>>153730414
we should be lucky we have any subs in general desu.
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>>153730205
though*
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>>153730414
Nah mate, you gonna missed out on the obscure shitty translation choices.
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>>153729870
Also the cartel doesn't exist
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>>153729911
People aren't trying to whine, memesubbers of the past now have legitimated translator gigs making them resoponsible for the official English releases of Japanese media. That's very important for anyone who have our hobby. Normalizing that type of subs (which subbers tend to gravitate towards because it makes them feel more important) would only mean more of it in the future.

>>153730246
Yes, of course. Because guess what? They're literally saying the same fucking thing. It's not the translator's job to make this distinction; he'd be overstepping his bounds trying to be more involved with the creative process in a way above his paygrade.
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>>153730407
Oh wait, there's moon bears too. Huh. Time to make a game about it.
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>>153730472
>Sometimes it's not possible..
This wasn't one of those times. Go ahead and give me an example of such a difficult itadakimasu in any anime.
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>>153730460
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>>153730472
"Thanks for the food" (Sarcastic)
"Thanks for the food" (Yes)
"Thanks for the food" (No)
"Thanks for the food" (Persuation)

I do believe you can.
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>>153730460
Lets not get a ahead of ourselves here, they aren't editing actual video content yet.
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What the actual fuck is this thread right now? People talking about cartels and all sorts of shit.
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>>153730444
Not changing you say?
So, here is the scene.

Original script :
Mom, I'm thirsty.

Translation :
Mom, I want to pee.

That's how it looks like.
If you are too dumb to understand the context of the scene with eating, then please, shut up.
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>>153730472
That's conveyed though the voice acting, like what >>153730365 said. Or do you need an "/s" at the end of every sarcastic line?

Also いただきます is said by every Japanese person regardless of status or asshole-ness before every meal and they mean it in a "thanks for the food" kind of a way.

The only situations where it would be translated as something different would be if it was used as a joke. I've seen characters saying "itadakimasu" as an awkward line before sex in doujins, but even that could be translated as "thanks for the meal"/"thanks for the feast".
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https://my.mixtape.moe/qkkans.ass
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Even "time to dig in" would be a better translation than what we got in this episode.
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>>153730360
I want to listen to her breathing as I fall asleep with her.
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>>153727745
>don't let the door punt your cunt
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>>153730643
>Through the Fire and Flames. Allahu Ackbar.
Damn son
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>>153730581
The "Official" subs that get released first and get pushed by horrible subs are bad. For a while they were also the only subbing option until some people finally got fed up and de-memed/punned them. The "Meme Catel" of translators however took extreme offense to being told that their sub was awful and both sides are throwing an autism fit.
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>>153730444
Yes she is saying thanks for the food. She is not praising the satan, but she is thankful for the fuckin food.
She is showing gratitude. The whole point of this scene is showing that she failed as a demon, she acts like good girl unlike to Satania. Still too complex for you?
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>>153730472
>Sometimes it's not possible to discern all that if you're not fluent in the language.

Indeed, but then again, you wouldn't even enjoy the show if you had absolutely no familiarity with Anime or Japanese culture would you? Show gabriel Dropout to your grandmother, she would definitely find it unfunny, and maybe even disturbing, all the Japanese-style anime comedy is too alien to her, there is no way to adapt the subs enough to make it funny to her. That's precisely the point: where to draw the line when the adaptation has gone too far and butchered the original content? There is standards in translation ethics for that shit, and the translator of this show is not respecting it. (more likely he is just an amateur with an N1 who doesn't even know how to translate properly).
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>>153730522
Complaints without constructive criticism/effort to fix it is just whining. Although I may have been too hasty to label it all as whining- you at least seem to able to discuss this in a reasonable manner.

>es, of course. Because guess what? They're literally saying the same fucking thing. It's not the translator's job to make this distinction; he'd be overstepping his bounds trying to be more involved with the creative process in a way above his paygrade.

I disagree. It's not to same to say fuck you to a friend in a joking manner as it is to say fuck you angrily to an enemy. You lose the intent behind those words if you simply translate them in a literal manner.

>>153730533
I'm speaking in general terms, not specifically about the itadakimasu. But maybe I have no problem with it because I know the concept of giving grace.

>>153730557
You would subtitle it just like that?
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>>153730582
That's not a valid comparison at all. Try:
>Itadakimasu
Thanks for the food
>Through the Dark Lord. Amen.
Thanks for the food
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>>153730661
That's quite romantic
Are you an italian?
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>>153730643
>https://my.mixtape.moe/qkkans.ass
I'll watch this.
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>>153730718
Your shitty joke was unfunny and people are calling you out on it, stop getting upset.
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>>153729635
ever heard of auto hot keys dumbass?
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>>153730643
>Jeez mate
what is this you bloody melon listen 'ere sunshine i can't make eds or tails o' this
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>>153730718
>You would subtitle it just like that?
There's this thing called direction.
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>>153730738
Shinobu pls
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>>153730718
I would subtitle it thanks for the food, because that's what it fucking means
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Why do you hate fun? This is supposed to be fun.
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>>153730718
Also the only things that shouldn't be translated literally are puns and jokes. Everything else should be left as is and doesn't need to be funny.
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>>153730699
This is a very good argument if that's what the scene was going for I'll admit
But I'm unconvinced that this was any more than the standard Itadakimasu you'd see at any meal. Satania says Itadakimasu at meals and is plagued by the same good behavior as Vigne, despite her best efforts
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>>153730864
Blame Vigne for being a good girl and thanking "someone" for the food.
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>>153730688
This is a downright disgusting thread. It's just people arguing to each other and nothing more.
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Faith moves Mount Anon
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This is genuinely making me want to start fansubbing so I won't have to sit through shit memes.
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>>153730643
Not bad
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dick status: muh
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>>153730917
You can thank general circumstances. In any case it's not a literal thanks. It's an empty meaningless ritual that Japs do before eating.
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>>153730643
Thank you for adding so much character and funny jokes into the script so it is now vastly improved, and reflects our culture appropriately!
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>>153730595
If the VAs are bad, the meaning is lost. Also, that sometimes requires fluency. Regardless, if you're translating a show, you're not going to leave it half translated and have the voices be the other half for context. The subs should stand more or less on their own.

>Also いただきます is said by every Japanese person regardless of status or asshole-ness before every meal and they mean it in a "thanks for the food" kind of a way.
I didn't know that. I would assume that different people impart different meaning to a stock phrase.

>>153730713
True to some degree, but even familiarity with Jap culture won't guarantee that you'll enjoy it.

For me it's funny because of the Jap humor but also my background of being a Catholic gives a lot of those angel/demon puns/phrases context ("Christ have mercy" is something people actually say when they're scared, for example).

To each their own, some people find it fine, some don't. But who draws that line?

>>153730771
Some people found it funny and I'm not upset. The upset ones are the ones clearly showing displeasure.

>>153730834
But who the fuck are you thanking? No one here speaks like that.

>>153730887
I think in a comedy you can be lenient a bit, but I understand that not everyone agrees.
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>>153730893
It doesn't matter either. She is still not praising the satan, but she is thankful for the food. The rest of episode is confirming this fact. She tried to act evilish, but again, she failed.
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>>153730941
They won't let your subs on nyaa, it's called a cartel for a reason.

They literally have a vested interest not to.
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Why the fuck is he fantasizing about his cute customer whipping him with a bicycle chain
I thought he was supposed to be pure
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>>153730688
Are horriblesubs just CR copies?
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>>153726359
NEEDS AN ANIKI PNG
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>>153731001
I've done a sub once before. As you'd expect, people just called it memesubs because it was an Anonymous upload.
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>>153730643
Superior memesubs.
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>>153730935
I'd mount her moves if you knowwhat i meant
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>>153731001
I thought herkz and his buttfuck crew stopped that shit back in 2015?
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>>153730472
>You wouldn't translate them with the same words if the intents are different.
It's the viewer's job to understand the context of multiple identical lines being said in different contexts.
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>>153730992
>If the VAs are bad, the meaning is lost. Also, that sometimes requires fluency. Regardless, if you're translating a show, you're not going to leave it half translated and have the voices be the other half for context. The subs should stand more or less on their own.
(You)
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>>153731030
In this case, yes. HS doesn't do any actual translations.
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>>153730992
>Regardless, if you're translating a show, you're not going to leave it half translated and have the voices be the other half for context. The subs should stand more or less on their own.
No, that's retarded.
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Heh
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Is this how all threads of this anime will be?
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>>153731058
Why is it the viewer's job? Isn't that the point of a TL, to give the meaning of something you otherwise wouldn't know on your own? The TL should stand on its own

>>153731065
fuck off Akko a cute

>>153731124
The subs standing on their own is retarded? Why?
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>>153730941
It's not worth nowadays. You will only receive the complaints from memecartel. If not about your transaction, then it will be a quality of the video, a framerate, a fuckin preset of x265, a fucking style of your typesetting, even about amount of 'enters' in signs on the screen or font which you are using. I really understand why almost all good fansub groups stopped functioning. It's really sad.
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>watch a show
>for free

>it's in a foreign language
>subs are provided to you for free

>get angry
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>>153731020
>HAVING PURE THOUGHTS WITH THIS DEMON SHAKING HER COLLARBONES AT YOU
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>>153731076
>in this case
Does that mean that they DO translate other anime?
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>>153731020
I can see her belly!
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>>153731150
Praise lord of darkness (itadakimasu).
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>>153730998
True but I'd imagine the subber just wanted to translate how Itadakimasu was a customary phrase/ritual. But if it was truly intended to highlight her failures as a demon, then I'd definitely say it's a mistranslation.
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>>153730880
>so fucking obsessed with thinking he can't be wrong about anything he literally refuses to let a single thread go by where he doesn't spam the same image
What's it like not only being wrong, but being a failure at everything in your life as well?
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>>153731168
>Be homeless
>Go to a homeless shelter for a free meal
>Man hands you a plate
>Pulls down his pants and shits on the plate
>Don't get angry
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>>153730992
No one speaks like that? Japanese people speak like that. And guess what! It's japanese show settled in Japan. Booooom! Unbelievable!
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>>153730643
thx m8
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>>153731154
>The subs standing on their own is retarded? Why?
Because under no reasonable circumstances will they be required to stand on their own. Literally their entire purpose is to go along with the video and audio of the show.
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>>153731181
I meant that it's CR subs in this case. It's not always, they just grab whatever is the fastest usually.
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>>153731150
>will be
it's how they have been since kitchen sink gate
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>>153731168
alright, let me go pay for the official subs
oh wait, they are these shitty subs.
who else can I go pay for subs? If I'm paying, I'll want it done correctly.
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>>153730992
>regardless, if you're translating a show, you're not going to leave it half translated and have the voices be the other half for context. The subs should stand more or less on their own.
Just imagine the fun a subber would following this philosophy as soon as he meets sarcasm, double-talk, deliberate ambiguity etc. Are you actually autistic? Do you have genuine trouble with non-verbal cues?
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>>153731230
And even if you wanted to localize itadakimasu as a satan meme it would be "Thank the dark lord for this food"
not "Through the dark lord, amen"
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>>153731154
Because if you're paying attention to what you watch, you can understand a lot of things. Do you think subs should describe everything that's happening in any given scene to the minimal detail as well?
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>>153731286
Just learn Japanese.
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>>153723265
>>153723368
>>153723421
>>153723514
>>153723570
>There are normalfags who spend $15 every month for these kind of subs
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>>153731251
I see. Thank you. I have given up on CR after this episode. What's the best subgroup right now? From what I understand, ESL is just one anon.
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>>153731308
I work more than full time and dont have much free time.
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>>153731308
>Are you hungry? Go cook your own food instead of going to a restaurant you piece of shit
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>>153731230
No one speaks like that in the West. Nigga is you serious?

>>153731249
Stand on their own in terms of not being ambiguous once you read them. If you read a sub from a hard ass thug and it says "thanks for the food", that thug all of a sudden sounds weak.

>>153731292
Are you saying subs should be strictly literal?

>>153731301
I didn't say every detail, only that what the speaker intended to convey is correctly transcribed
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Gabu doesn't know how lucky she is to have this cute demon try to get her attention all day
Vigne deserves friends who actually appreciate her
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>>153731230
Japanese people say Itadakimasu because it's a long standing tradition with religious/spiritual roots.
They don't just yell out thanks for the food because it's trendy
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>>153731368
and it's still a show based in japan with japanese being the spoken language.
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>>153731353
>knows the restaurant sucks
>hates the staff and the food
>goes there every day, gives them lots of money
>mad at the restaurant and not himself
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>>153731368
>If you read a sub from a hard ass thug and it says "thanks for the food", that thug all of a sudden sounds weak.
Name one time that has happened ever.
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>>153731368
This is not a western series. I I wanted to watch a western show, I would watch a fucking western show.
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>>153731370
Which is why Tapris should just steal Vigne away and forget about Gabu too.
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>>153723265
Daiz is a fucking faggot, what else is new?
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>>153731368
>No one speaks like that in the West. Nigga is you serious?
They're in Japan. In an anime. Made by Japanese. For Japanese.

Go suck a cock you illiterate redneck.

>Are you saying subs should be strictly literal?
No, but taking such liberties as completely changing the entire sentence to something that isn't even remotely similar is going too far.

Don't even know why I'm fucking replying to you.
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>>153731398
>no other restaurants in the area
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>>153731337
At the moment it's ESL although he's only done the past 2 episodes so your currently stuck with memes for the first 5 episodes until the BDs are out.
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>>153731368
>If you read a sub from a hard ass thug and it says "thanks for the food", that thug all of a sudden sounds weak.

Maybe if this is your first anime lmao
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>>153731368
Guess what genius? If you just transcribed people's conversations from movies - or, in fact, from REAL LIFE - the result would lose out on a lot of the meaning, for the exact same reason.
And yet, people are expected to understand the subtleties of conversations in their native language as well as REAL LIFE without any subtitles whatsoever.
The subs do not need to stand on their own, period. There is no scenario under which this would be necessary.
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>>153731424
You're watching a western translation of a cartoon because you don't actually know Japanese.
Get off your fucking horse you turbo autist.
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>>153731427
Imagine a person who is so pathetic their life revolves around trying to harass people on the internet over "shipping".
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>>153729672
She's saying that she looks bear-y evil.
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>>153731337
ESL and Satania is the best subgroup for Gabriel Dropout right now.

>>153731368
>Are you saying subs should be strictly literal?
Explain how your idea will deal with sarcasm, doubletalk and deliberate amiguity. Explain how someone won't be able to tell from the sound alone. Explain how anything you said made any sense, up to and including the idea that the sub has to translate the entire scene and not just the words.
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>>153731494
Yeah, a Japanese cartoon. Why didn't you go all the way with the localization, where are my fuckign burgers
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>>153731168
Honestly I think the only reason there's so much complaining over the subs is that there some idiots who are stupid enough to actually defend them. Or at least pretend to.
/a/ loves to argue, and this is way less trivial than some of the shit we argue over.
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>>153730610
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And all of these problems stem from piracy. You want free shit? Don't expect good quality. Official subs could be 20x if they were sufficiently funded.
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>>153730992
>I didn't know that.
If you don't know Japanese culture why are you trying to dictate what is right and wrong? If you lack context on things then you are just making a guess and basically risk making shit up.
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>>153731398
>It's literally the only restaurant.
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>>153731411
That's why the other stock phrase exists.
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>>153730718
>constructive criticism
People are saying they want a standard translation not some memer's lame attempt to be original. CR buyfags were complaining to CR to make sure that translator doesn't get more work in the future unless he changes his ways.

>effort to fix it
ESL anon has put out an edited version of CR script and translatoranon is working on an original TL. What more do you want?

>It's not to same to say fuck you to a friend in a joking manner as it is to say fuck you angrily to an enemy
It's the same words so same translation. Jokingly/Angrily is discerned from the tone and context.

>The subs should stand more or less on their own.
They're called SUBtitles. Unless they're for the hearing impaired (those aren't) they are by definition coupled with the video/audio.
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>>153731387
But we're not Japanese and trying to convey strictly Japanese ideas in a strictly Japanese way means that those unfamiliar won't understand the whole meaning.

>>153731411
It's an example for the purpose of illustrating my point.

>>153731424
Irrelevant. You're trying to understand it as an outsider, not an insider.

>>153731442
We are not in Japan, therefore the translation should impart the meaning closest to the original AND to the nearest colloquial concept

Not even white, you dumbfuck.

>No, but taking such liberties as completely changing the entire sentence to something that isn't even remotely similar is going too far.

Never argued that that should happen, but making a fitting pun doesn't make it so that the entire sentence isn't even remotely similar.

>>153731493
People have miscommunications in real life in their own fucking language all the time, what the fuck are you even on? Proper communication is a skill few have because only a few develop it. That's the difference between a good orator and a regular one.
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>>153731498
If such a person were here then this thread would be complete.
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>>153731494
xDDDD
Sorry but this is the only way I could respond to retard like you :*
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>>153731554
>buy our shitty product. we promise we will make it better once you buy it and not just assume people are okay with this mediocracy and stick with it
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>>153731554
These subs aren't worth the bits they're written to
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>>153731543
Why don't you go learn Japanese if the subs are too western for you?
Your burgers are waiting for you to join them in the trash
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>>153731554
But 20x people than the 146 faggots in these threads are paying for those subs.
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>>153731597
>That's the difference between a good orator and a regular one.
Then you agree that the onus of providing context for the written dialogue falls to the voice actors. Glad we sorted that out.
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>>153731544
Prety much this. If there was such a rabid defense over this within the actual threads, people would just post some screenshots, have a laugh, and then watch the eventual other option.
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>>153731337
Supposedly an anon is doing an original TL right now and it's almost about done. If they plan on doing it for the other episodes, we can expect a good sub every 12 hours after release.
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>>153731608
xDDDD
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>>153731597
>It's an example for the purpose of illustrating my point.
Shitty meme subs are also an example illustrating our point and you seem to be able to ignore them just fine.
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>>153731554
do they offer high quality downloads or just
>streaming with shit subs
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>>153731601
I replied to said person. Which happens to be you.
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>>153731597
Subbing isn't about pretending that the show isn't set in Japan, you dumb fuck.
This isn't the 80's anymore, nobody is going to go on a shchool shooting because they saw a cartoon that was set in a foreign country any more.
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>>153731621
Because it's perfectly possible to sub shows without turning into 4kids. Why this person in particular didn't want to, now that's a mystery.
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>>153731612
This goes back 15 years. The entire industry is drained. We get meme subs because CR caters to the large casual audience, not us.
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>>153731597
You are the kind of person who thinks the shit 4kids use to pull was good.
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>>153731597
This is fucking unbelievable. No one needs subtitles to fucking substantiate the intricacies of conversation. We get this from the voice acting and directing.

>What if the VA is bad?
Then we'd have the same experience as the Japanese people watching the original show, WHICH IS ALL WE WANT. WE'D SHITPOST ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE VOICE ACTING AND HOLY SHIT ACTUALLY DISCUSSING THE MERITS OF THE SHOW INSTEAD OF BEING DISTRACTED BY YOUR GARBAGE MEMES.

Through the hella dark Lord. Amen.
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>>153731693
The actual paid CR streams aren't terrible in quality, or at least no worse than the HS versions everyone watches anyway.
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>>153728182
Because seven hours of sleep is a good night's rest.
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>Daiz
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>>153731554
These subs are even worse than what CR usually puts out. They are bad even for CR, that's how terrible they are. It has nothing to do with piracy or lack of funds considering CR is pretty much the biggest anime streaming service in the west at the moment. A fansubber is doing a better translation and he's an admitted ESL doing it for free.
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when will [horriblesubs] be changed to [4kids]
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>>153731714
Not even CR's customers like this translation. Just the retard cartel.
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Just compare CR subs with [ESL] if you're actually defending them. [ESL] is infinitely superior.
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>>153731711
They just wanted to target and annoy you in particular anon.
But just enough so you would complain on /a/ instead of dropping the series or learning Japanese
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>>153731738
The real mccoy post in this thread.Hella good post anon dear.
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>>153731621
Most of complaining people are actually learning Japanese. That's why they are able to critique shitsubs.
Yes, they are using subs as a support. It was mentioned hundreds times.
Even a people who finished their college in Japan department (sorry I don't know how it's called in America) are still using subs as a support.
So sorry but your argument is invalid.
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>>153723265
The show was really shitty anyways. This is just CR's version of the Ghost Stories dub.
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>>153731834
Anon, I...
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>>153731834
>bumping at bump limit
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>700 post of shitposting about translation even though their is a superior one available

sasuge
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>>153731525
Depends, it's hard to think of an example on the spot. In Spanish, you can say "cincuenta" and it translates to 50. But you can also make it a pun where it translates to "without count" or "infinite" (sin cuenta)

I didn't say the sub has to translate the entire scene, stop putting words in my mouth. I said the sub should convey the meaning fully of what is being spoken.

>>153731555
I'm not dictating anything. I'm assuming that the subbers actually know though, at least more than some random anon

>>153731579
>People are saying they want a standard translation not some memer's lame attempt to be original. CR buyfags were complaining to CR to make sure that translator doesn't get more work in the future unless he changes his ways.

I understand that but a lot of it comes across as whiny, although I do appreciate the ones who are discussing this with me in a constructive manner. I do think that sometimes they go overboard (the homer one def didnt make sense)

>ESL anon has put out an edited version of CR script and translatoranon is working on an original TL. What more do you want?

And that's good. Didn't know someone was working on it but good for them.

>It's the same words so same translation. Jokingly/Angrily is discerned from the tone and context.

Ambiguity is possible from hearing someone's tone in a language you are unfamiliar with.

>They're called SUBtitles. Unless they're for the hearing impaired (those aren't) they are by definition coupled with the video/audio.

True but at the same time, they're translating what the person said, meaning and all. A literal TL is many times divorced from the meaning

>>153731668
Oration isn't just how you deliver the speech, it's what words you use and in what way.
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>>153731804
The majority of casuals doesn't complain.

>>153731781
>>153731714
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>>153731856
>Comparing this garbage to one of the greatest comedy anime of all time

Fuck off
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>>153731818
Fucking thanks, you crazy angel star. Those of little faith can't throw homers with hella great subs like these. Amen.
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>>153731829
>Most of complaining people are actually learning Japanese
Stopped reading here. I guarantee this is complete fiction
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>>153731882
Maybe sausage?
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>>153731887
>but a lot of it comes across as whiny
No more so than complaining about the complaining does
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What I take from this entire recent discussion is that the people defending CR's subs are complete retards who can't understand anything that isn't explicitly said to them.
Makes sense.
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>>153731889
They don't complain about the usual subs. But as previously mentioned, their users are actually vocally complaining about this specific series, and asking CR to get the translator to cut it off.

Do you understand how terrible this has to be for them to get upset too?
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>>153731811
They're working out the specifics of the partnership now, but there is some disagreement over who gets the rights to all the dog pictures.
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>>153731690
You calling something shitty memes does not make it so. Show how it's shitty.

>>153731703
>Subbing isn't about pretending that the show isn't set in Japan, you dumb fuck.
No one said that. But you do lose meaning if you pretend that your audience is 100% knowledgeable of Japanese culture and will get your references.

>>153731716
Not really

>>153731738
Nice memes

Apparently you do because you're bitching about translation differences. Also, I don't want the same bad experience, I want to actually understand the show as the creatore intended.

>>153731976
I guess.
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>>153731887
>I'm assuming..
Well you assumed wrong. Do you understand how shit they are now?
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>>153731980
I'll take your word for it.
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>>153731980
I am hoping this is true.
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>>153732024
You haven't shown me my assumption was incorrect, or that you're more competent than the subber.
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>>153731980
If the quality of the subs actually starts affecting their business, they'll make changes to put out better subs.
But as long as they can get away with it, no amount of complaining will change anything
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>>153731887
You know how people say 80% of communication is non-verbal? Guess what! It's the same in anime.
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>>153732008
>I don't want the same bad experience
Too fucking bad. It's not the translator's job to "improve" the show. Because guess what, they're just as likely to fuck it up and make it worse as the people who made the show in the first place - in fact, they're much more likely to do so, because they're laughably amateur at what they're doing. There's no way I trust their judgement.
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>It's for the casuals!

I'm going to assume most of the casuals are actually watching stuff like DBS and not seasonal cute girl comedy series.
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>>153732070
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>>153732095
It's more like 93% last time I heard. But in that case, why even complain about subs? Watch it way and get 93% of the meaning

>>153732098
I didn't say the translator should improve the show.
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>>153725350
Didn't realize the chair edit for 4kids till now.
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>>153732164
>I didn't say the translator should improve the show.
Then how do you expect the subs to give you a better experience than the original, in this hypothetical scenario where the original was poorly acted?
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>>153731498
>>153731222
Fuck off ACK
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>>153732046
>>153732070
There's screenshots in one of these threads of their forums. Go take a look.

>>153732008
>Apparently you do
Apparently I do what, you bumbling retard? Is your English terrible too?

>as the creator intended
Then you want localization to replace the voice acting and directing too? Are you serious? If you want the original intention, read the source material. Why the fuck are you watching anime? Anime is the sum of its parts, and the parts we're interested in are the ones placed there by the studio, not some fucking neckbeard paid by CR.
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>>153732078
Considering we have shown the context of the line is her just saying thank you for the food (plus also the translation goes against the point of the scene shown earlier in the ep) then that should bring in to question of how good the translator really is.
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>>153732078
Except someone literally did, you fucking idiot. Itadakimasu is universal in Japan. It doesn't matter if a child or adult says it.
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>>153731882
Faith moves mount /a/
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Weekly reminder.
If you are giving a '-' in MAL fansub section, then write a proper comment along with just giving a '-'. And give your opinion for future reference. Many people are using fansub section when they are choosing translation. When someone would like to watch it in next year, then no one would be posting about it here anymore, so be a good anon and give a '-' for those shitsubs.
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>>153732337
Mount /a/ doesn't move for nobody.
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>>153732281
the creators usually have input on the anime, you fucking retard
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I just wanted to watch a show about cute demons.
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>>153732213
>Then how do you expect the subs to give you a better experience than the original

First of all, you were the one who brought up a better experience. I'm talking about imparting the same meaning via the subs of what is being spoken/what is meant by the speaker.

If the translation is too literal, you won't get the actual meaning of what was being said, especially if the VA is bad. You also won't get the same emotional feel. You can understand the tone of what is being said by the speaker, but unless you know what is being said/what was meant, that emotion is only a vague notion.

>>153732281
>bumbling retard
>can't follow a conversation

"no one needs subtitles..." -> "Apparently you do..."

>Then you want localization to replace the voice acting and directing too? Are you serious? If you want the original intention, read the source material. Why the fuck are you watching anime? Anime is the sum of its parts, and the parts we're interested in are the ones placed there by the studio, not some fucking neckbeard paid by CR.

None of what you said was relevant to what I said.

>>153732312
And in the west, it's saying grace. And saying grace fits in with a show about angels and demons

>>153732321
We're not in Japan you weeb
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>>153732383
Too bad, you get a translator making his own shit up instead because he hates the original work.
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>>153732416
>And in the west, it's saying grace. And saying grace fits in with a show about angels and demons
The show is set in Japan.
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>>153728937
>9 months
>being able to watch raw anime
Ok
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