When did anime stop having a budget and why? Is it a recent thing?

It's been that way for a long time. Look at all the outsourcing and even crowdfunding. You think they'd still put that kind of loving detail you see in that webm to this day with every show? Not even close. Much of what you see now is South Korean, Chinese, and even Vietnamese produced. Now, if it was all in-house Japanese done by skilled animators, you'd see a very marked improvement visually. Budgets are shrinking because a lot of people are losing interest in seeing batches of material come out that have no originality. Not quite enough money gets invested or made anymore when we here an underage tart say "onii-chan" in a cute, high-pitched voice, but in a perverse way far removed from how Sakura meant it.

You want a budget for your shows? This is a rarity, today. You'd just best sift through the crap in order to find the upper layer that is worth watching.

>>153692631
when all the good seiyuu got old and demanded more money

>>153692631
That's not even impressive.
And that sequence is from the first episode and better animated that almost everything will come after.

>>153692631
>When did anime stop having a budget
1963. Astro Boy had a budget of 500K yen per episode, which is the equivalent of about 12K 2017 USD.

>Why?
Because the Japanese cartoon industry, particularly television, cannot support actual budgets as a widespread standard while still profiting.

>>153694630
The action scenes from the rest of the show are around the same level.

>it's a "anime used to look better back in the day" episode
Shitty airing shit always looked terrible, but people only watched a few popular old shows with good budget and they think everything is fucking golden.
If anything the average shows look better now thanks to digital technology reducing human labor.

>>153692631
It's not profitable to put in consistent effort when you've got constant deadlines to meet.

>>153694818
>that synchronized Chinese fighting scene

>>153692631
When did rollerblades stop being cool?

>>153696940
Rollerblades aren't cool?

>>153694630
Have you seriously not seen CSS? No extravaganza eggs aggression here but the entire 70 episodes have budget.

>>153697325
As a whole it looked good, very stylistically pleasing art style, but I wouldn't say it had amazing animation.

>>153692631
>Now, if it was all in-house Japanese done by skilled animators, you'd see a very marked improvement visually.

Calm your weeb anon, that's bullshit and you know it. You will at most see like a dozen foreign names the credits and if those gaijin animators were inferior that wouldn't explain why a whole show looks like shit instead of just specific cuts.

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>>153692631
If anime stopped having a budget, wouldn't that mean it had infinite money?

>>153692631
>rolling blading to school
>all that protective gear
What a fucking nerd.

>>153698403
Falling sucks. She should be wearing a helmet too, but that hat is cuter.

>>153698403
If you had a daughter as cute as that, you would also be sending her to school on rolling plate armor blade.

>>153698558
Doesn't she wear one in later episodes?

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>>153692631
how do you explain OPM, faggot?

>>153692631
Why doesn't anime look like this anymore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQuNiGwiq5Q

>>153698682
It has 10 episodes, it's not even a damn season.

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>>153698663
>thinking it's a figurine
>open thumbnail
>4chins image service. So loads slow as fuck
>mfw I see tfw

>>153698755
>thinking it's a figurine
Fuck, I thought the same.

>>153698685
>posting THAT
You IMBECILE, you have doomed us ALL!
HE COMES!
HE COMES!
HE COMES!

>>153697457
Bitch, compare it to the super cheap animation that Toei was outputting for Digimon, Doremi and One Piece!

I DARE YOU!

>>153698929
Why on earth would you compare CCS to those? Everyone knows long running fighting shounen series always look like ass.

>>153698685
Fuck I have trouble watching anime from that era

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>>153692631
Hentai is even worse where everything is basically repeat frames for half of it and then like 2 frame motions beyond that.

>>153700352
>he doesn't find the perfectly looping frames more arousing then the hentai scenes themselves
A feel nothing but pity for you.

>>153692631
When you decided to cherrypick like a madman and blame lack of funds for everything you don't like

>>153700417
That would be fine if they didn't look like a flip book missing key animations.

>>153692631
Does anyone buy anime anymore. I haven't been assed to buy any anime related thing since Blurays of alchemist brotherhood

That scene of her doing the curve with her hand on the pole was reused so many times along the episodes.

>>153700315
IA!
IA!

>>153693977
>underage tart say "onii-chan"

The hilarious thing is that those kinds of shows are the only ones that make money, all the flashy anime with over the top fought scenes usually make the studio lose money and are only really pursued because a senior animator/director convinces the studio to take the risk.

The reason top why there is Lyra money around is because people on Japan has much less disposable income now than twenty years ago and only the most hardcore fans (those who buy the anime you complain about) are willing to spend moiety on the hobby.

>>153700481
I cherry picked a series with consistency throughout 70 episodes?

>>153700660
I counted like three times

>>153693977
>Budgets are shrinking because a lot of people are losing interest in seeing batches of material come out that have no originality.

No

There is actually a lot of money in unoriginal work. That's why things are "safe" and unoriginal. Because why spend the money to reinvent anime when you can make approximately the same profit off of rehashing the same shit over and over. Look at any sales chart over the past 20 years. Sales in anime and manga are going up.

The reason you don't see the same level of detail is two fold.
1. standards of living in Japan have increased. Before you could sweatshop your animators and get lots of detail off of little money. You could work animators 80+ hours a week for pennies. But now Japan is in a stronger position and people care more about "fairness" and employees have more benefits and healthier work hours.

2. Business has shifted in the past 20 years from quality work to profitable work. Look at your table, your fridge, everything. Nothing is made to last. Nothing is designed to be passed down for decades. it's all breakable so you have to buy more. Same goes for animation. No one is making it for art (or very very few studios have that luxury). It's all about cutting corners to maximize profits and get the season done under budget. Before you had an art director saying "we need her to skate for 20 seconds in 1 point perspective because its the best way to tell the story" now you have an accountant saying "doing this scene in profile means we can do it in 4 hours instead of 20. So do that".

>>153701579
If you switch around point 1 then you've almost got it.

Anime has more or less always been known for low budget productions. The industry pumped out a lot of shows and they did it for dirt cheap.

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>>153669605
When did people stop trying to make good threads and just copy and paste the exact same ones that already died from inactivity?

>>153692631
Too much work for little to no profit. You think the Otaku care?

>>153692631
It's far from a recent thing. Try years. Since the early 2000s

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>>153692631
>When did anime stop having a budget and why?
It just happens.

>>153692631
How do you achieve this aesthetic in digital, and why don't we see it?

I'm sure it's possible, it's just that the way things are done has changed, no?

>>153705376
Have an animation director worth a damn, for starters. Next step would be to use a less saturated palette and draw shapes with thin lines.

>>153692631
otaku aren't buying as much

>>153692631
What is this? Cardcaptor Sakura?

>>153696940
Razer scooters.

It replaced it in the "faster than talking " department, was easier to do than rollerblades.
Also cheaper and more convenient than a bike, and less expectation of doing tricks like a skateboard so you were asked of much but still felt cool and 'radical'.

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>>153692631
Made in 1978

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>>153698663
WITH FIRE . . MUST KILL IT ! and not spill tea

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>>153709894
Possibly

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>>153697457
CCS had four bad looking episode tops, and plenty of beautiful scenes throughout the series. It was certainly amazingly consistent in its animation quality for a 70-episode long anime.

>>153692631
Conformity, anime standards nowadays is to just be "okay", nobody give a shit anymore, it's just business as usual, and people eat it no matter what.