What exactly was wrong with his plan?

He said it aloud like a stupid fuck.

>>153689257
Fpbp.

Also, the kage at the time problaby caused the least amount of problems compared to the kage before them.

>>153689182
Nothing really, it was a good plan in the long term. Literally one of the only good things Kishimoto got right after the time skip.

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>>153691088
Holy shit is this for real?

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>What's wrong with trying to impose total dictatorship and killing anyone who disagrees with me?

Sasuke is an edgelord faggot. He had plenty from the village reach out to him but he ignored everyone because 'Muh dark side'.

Still, more entertaining than naruto's boring ass.

>>153691294
He meant he was being calm in a stressful situation but yes it's real.

>>153689182
>no naruto I will be the hokage
what exactly was his plan was he gonna kill them then naruto and keep everybody in the tsukiyomi or free them afterwards and become "the god of the new world" dictating the leaf, being the strongest ninja in the world after killing naruto

>>153689182
He failed.

>>153691490
he's the number one knucklehead calmest guy nardo's ever met

>>153691555
He was going to kill Naruto and the Kage's, release everyone and pull a Code Geass where everyone would focus their hatred on him instead of each other.

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Yeah, he killed my family, but it's cool.

>>153691770
>Doesn't just stab the baby
ONE OF THE WORLDS STRONGEST NINJA, FOLKS!

I don't know about Narutofags but from an objective standpoint, i think everyone was right except naruto. All their plans were solid and based off of realistic perceptions. Naruto was an idealist, and in an idealistic world his whole plan would have fallen short. Making people understand one another? that's harder than emptying a lake with a bucket. people will always find differences and those differences will always lead to conflict.

Now let's look at the plans for the ninja world made by the biggest """""villains""""" in the narutoverse.
>Pain
to use pain and the fear of pain to stop the fighting. if a country went to war against another country, he would inflict pain on them so massive that generations after will act accordingly to avoid that pain.

>Madara
putting the world in genjutsu to completely avoid the pain. though it was misguided it was a good plan

>Sasuke
Uniting the world against one common evil which is himself. this was likely the best plan out of everyone else's. nothing unites people like a common enemy

and then you have naruto
"take on the pain. And then what happens when he's gone? does he think anyone has that much vitality to take on the anger of everyone? and what if people refuse to inflict pain on him and instead on people who wronged them. it's a stupid plan desu. which is why after all that happened, it became a completely useless journey as a new villain came in boruto (which is probably the stupidest idea i have ever seen. I mean wtf was going through their heads. making everything that happened until now all for naught)

>>153692485
in a realistic word*

>>153689182
Fuck off Narutards.

>>153692438
Killing Naruto wasn't his goal. Obito was trying to separate Minato from Kushina, and he succeeded.

>>153689182
Sasuke lacks both the charisma, power, and smarts to realistically achieve his goal.

>>153692485
None of the villains have realistic solutions to war. Pain's plan would cause too much collateral damage and traumatize the ninja world to the point that they start militarizing and boosting their troops against imaginary threats and start fighting more wars that leads to more deaths.

Madara's plan is only effective if people are content with their dream world, it can be easily dispelled if people reject the temptation of fantasy for real world.

Madara wanted human instrumentality?

>>153693100
No, placating the masses through the use of illusions or a dream world has been done before Evangelion.

>>153693231
In what instances has it been used?

>>153691555
He was gong to pull a Itachi on the whole world. Let everyone hate him

>>153692485
Pains plan: dumb
Madara plan: without pain the good things lose value. Everyone would get bored eventually.
Sasuke: it didn't work with Itachi, it didn't work with madara, it didn't work with obito and surely wouldn't have worked with him

>>153694168
>it didn't work with madara
>5 ninja villages never allied against a common enemy
huh.

>>153693035
>lacks the power
Name 3 people who can stop him. Post manga.

>>153694529
nigga, it only worked because three of the kages knew naruto and even then Sasuke and Orochimaru were doing their things. It just happened Sasuke had to fight madara to exact his own plan.

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>>153689182
He's a fag. And so are you.

>>153691479
His plan was to pull a lelouch right?

>>153695522
nigga that wasn't the first joint conference of the kages. if you think it's because of a single naruto that the 5 villages rallied together then you are honestly retarded

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>>153691479
>>153691555
He was going to prevent war by having everyone unite through their mutual hatred of him.
He was going to sacrifice himself(and the kages) for the sake of the world, in the same way Itachi did.

>>153695976
>NaruSaku fans still ass mad about this

Tip toppest kek

>>153697310
You should how upset they are when you look up porn.

>>153697351
????

Translation?

>>153696359
can't expect underage fags to understand this

Naruto was an idealist and his whole plan would fall sooner rather than later. in fact the only reason they united was because some knew naruto. Then what happens the next generation when he's gone or the one after and the hokages aren't so chummy
sasuke's would remain as long as he remained a threat and he could just as well create an underling like madara and entrust him the duties

>>153689453
The third tsuchikage was the worst offender in using Akatsuki

The fourth raikage militarized Kumogakure

Gaara and Mei didnt do much but Gaara did attack Konaha in the Chuunin exams

Tsunade was part of the legacy of the Senju who fucked over his clan in favor of the village.

So no, they werent innocent.

>he just loved too much

havent laughed that hard since

>>153698020
>Naruto was an idealist and his whole plan would fall sooner rather than later
Correct, but this was acknowledged in-universe by the characters several times. Naruto KNOWS his plan isn't flawless. Case in point: The ninja village system still exists.

>>153689257
Pretty much. Sakura and Kakashi might not have done anything against him but you can't say that in front of the moralfag protagonist and get away with it.

>>153692485
>>153693035
>>153694168
>>153694168

Pain's plan was literally LITERALLY the best plan out of all the villains because it actually has a real world basis. See Japan's pacification after ww2, Soviet and USA cold war where MAD prevented anyone from using nukes against each other.

>>153689182
Fuck off Narutard

https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/image/nT_w-h4TgpU69IhKknttEQ/

>>153696359
So he wants everyone to come after him and he'll just, what, let them use him as a punching bag? Kill them off? If Sasuke gets killed then what?

This seems all together stupid. Just because Sasuke becomes a big target for people to hate won't stop others from rising up with different agenda's. Or the fact he might attract a cult following which will cause more war.

>>153691770
And he still gets with Rin in the afterlife. There is no justice in this manga.

>>153698823
>Wow, anon made a thread twice before to discuss a particular topic of a shounen manga
>that never happens bungee gum

>>153693382

The Matrix is one that jumps out at me instantly.

>>153696060
Everybody was arguing amongst each other until Gaara gave his huge "Naruto is my friend" speech.

>>153698842
>If Sasuke gets killed
That's not happening.

>>153689182
Gaara should have killed him in the Chuunin exam arc when he didn't have his plot powers

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>>153697310
NaruSakufags already killed themselves long ago.

But what the fuck does that image have anything to do with NaruSaku?

>>153698960
The Matrix was released in 1999, 4 years after Evangelion and 2 years after the movie.

>>153698911
>Wow, faggot OP, just wants to spam another Naruto general just like all Narutards do.

Don't think /a/ doesn't notice the Sasuka and Orochimaru spam threads. You don't even change your filenames.

>>153697310
>>153699013
You should stay in tumblr, Narutards.

>>153689182
It wasn't a sustainable plan, even if he could get immortality.

Like how Death Note's Light wasn't sustainable because other people had other ideas about justice.

>>153698989
He's not immortal, especially if the whole world is coming after him. He almost died against Killer Bee and got his ass handed to him against Raikage. He was also pretty much dead after Madara stabbed him.

>>153699093
>He was also pretty much dead after Madara stabbed him.
Yes, Madara. That guy that gave everyone a hard time. And he can become more powerful than him.

>>153693035
>Madara's plan is only effective if people are content with their dream world, it can be easily dispelled if people reject the temptation of fantasy for real world.
The fuck does it even mean? Nobody knows the tsukuyomi world isn't the real one. Hell nobody can be sure that a real world is the real one for that matter. They also can't force themselves out of literally the strongest genjutsu the world has ever seen.

Being discontent with its interpretation of the reality also seems to be impossible given that it most likely changes it along with your subconscious desires and what not.

>>153699178
I find it hard to believe in Sasuke's lifespan no one else will ever level up or figure out a way to defeat him since it's literally the world against one emo kid. Also Sasuke would eventually die unless he steals little boys bodies like Orochimaru.

Well it's moot anyways because Sasuke couldn't get past Naruto.

>>153699290
He litearally states that it's not impossible to become imortal when you have rinnegan

>>153689182
He wasn't the main character.

>>153699374
Immortal through chakra or Edo tensei but not through the Rinnegan itself. The rikudou sage died naturally despite being the strongest Rinnegan user.