Quake may love lolis, but I still want to
And I'll be marrying Swim Swim
when its legal.
probably Sister Nana, she's not a bad character, but her fantasy bullshit and self-righteousness really rub me the wrong way. Also not too big a fan of Grim Heart, but I wouldn't say I hate her
There's a ton of Things people say and draw of Ruler that doesn't fit Ruler's character. Her character in general pretty much got changed by the fan base. Ruler Swim ship is just one of them.
she actually had a good amount of lines, and had a lot of focus in the beginning chapters and the endgame chapters. Its just she didn't do much at all in the middle chapters besides being Pukin's slave. I still like her though
Yeah...Best Unmarked duo by far. They're both a little bit of perfect.
Take that back, Wedin a cute
>The pirate expressed her support, but Mine did not like that form of address. She shook her head and pointed to herself with her thumb.
>“I am not the Class Rep. I am Wedin. My Magical Girl name is Wedin.”
>Since she was now a Magical Girl, she had to make that clear. Even when the enemy cried the main character’s name, they would go, “Damn you, Cutie Red!” instead of “Damn you, Tanaka Yoshiko!”
>Best Unmarked duo by far
I don't see the problem with that. It's not like it is the first ship where you have to put on googles to make it work, and it'll certainly won't be the last.
People who complain about fanworks not adhering 120% to canon are autists of the highest level.
better than Uttakatta, she got less than 10 lines overall I'm pretty sure, and accomplished absolutely nothing of worth
I agree but the manga author randomly making Ruler a lolicon in his adaptation was dumb
My response would be Snow White and Hardgore Alice, then.
That's one of the strangest pairings I've seen, even La Pucelle has had more interactions with her
Reposting from last thread.
It's pretty daft to think a ship must comprise of two people with mutual affection. One-sided attraction is lovely enough, especially when the target of affection is 1) oblivious or 2) a tsundere. Ruler was both so yeah.
And if you must absolutely need some signs of reciprocation, then Ruler's gaze when she described Swim Swim was pretty sensual. She repeated Swim having a pretty face twice, and said that she had a slender body with big breasts and concluded it with "ridiculously attractive." It's not a proof of gay, but there's something a bit overt, so people caught onto that.
Then there's the manga artist who drew an omake where Ruler got a nosebleed at Swim Swim's flat chest, and 2 ship arts. Kind of a nudge nudge wink wink to the fans that they weren't imagining some nonexistent tease.
Anyway, what exactly kind of thing that you found out of character for Ruler? In most SwimRuler stuff I've seen, it's consistently the canon autist x tsundere dynamic.
Is snow white a total plain jane in reality, or rather is she made out to be plenty enough attractive?
Words I can think of to describe Ruler include strict, arrogant, ambitious, and selfish character. She cares for her team because she relies on her team and she believes only she's competent enough to do so. Everything she does is for her own goal, and she won't stop until her goal is met.
Those adjectives do not describe someone that would become shy and embarrassed if her autistic subordinate came on to her, nor does it describe someone who would take time to cuddle with her subordinates.
He always finished the script first before letting Maruino design. I suppose it's so to avoid the exact same thing you just mentioned, a.k.a letting someone survive just because she looks good.
It's a good strategy I think, since we have no idea who will die just by looking at the designs.
>Hating on one of the Lazulines
But why though.
The cuddle shit is intentionally OOC, it's just something quick to heal the artists from their tragic fate.
The romance shit is not OOC. You think they are because you're locked down onto the interpretation that Ruler is callous. That is wrong, as proven by her being patient with Tama, and also the side story in Circle of Life book where she's a typical tsundere who is jealous of Nana for having a good-looking lover like Winterprison, and wish she had the same thing.
Ruler is a bonafide tsundere who secretly longs for romance. So arts of her blushing and eventualky reciprocating Swim Swim is within the realm of possibility.
I really don't understand how people still believe that Ruler is a bitch. Guess it is must be why they get so upset at this, because it interferes with their headcannon or simply plain dislike Ruler and believe that anything that puts her on a good light is bad for doing so.
You're correct. I did miss one description of Ruler. Ruler is envious. She grew up being outstanding and loaded with success, only for it to amount to nothing. Seeing Swim Swim's beauty and knowing this is something she can never earn enrages her. Seeing romance succeed to those she believes inferior to her also enrages her.
Her patience to Tama, while is a huge benefit to Tama, is also a response to her own ego. If she had given up on Tama, she would have failed. She is ambitious and would stop at nothing to meet her goal, and a failure like this wouldn't be acceptable in her own eyes.
>I really don't understand how people still believe that Ruler is a bitch.
Maybe because she is? In the end her subordinates true purpose is to be a distraction so that she can defeat Calamity Mary and put her in her place, just like CM had done for her. She was humiliated and want to restore her self prestige.
>Seeing romance succeed to those she believes inferior to her also enrages her.
I would have commended you for a sound interpretation, if not for the fact that before seeing Nana, she swooned at WP first and wanted a boyfriend who looked like that. She only became bitter after seeing WP was with Nana.
Top girl keeping the peace and looking lovely while doing it.
>Her patience to Tama, while is a huge benefit to Tama, is also a response to her own ego. If she had given up on Tama, she would have failed. She is ambitious and would stop at nothing to meet her goal, and a failure like this wouldn't be acceptable in her own eyes.
And then when Tama thanked her and said she was a nice person after all she went and dropped her spaguetti hard. How convenient of you to forget that.
She definitely has the best design, i'll give her that.
Whether or not she's shipped with Swim or cuddles with her team does not make her more or less of a bitch. Ruler is actually 4th according to my favorites sorter. I've always saw her as a very respectable person with very realistic flaws.
Yes? Ruler saw Nana as an inferior person who succeeded in romance. I doubt she was envious of WP for finding Nana.
If anything, this proves Ruler herself is well aware she isn't a nice person. If she thought so, she would have responded with, "Of course I am," or some other arrogant remark. A compliment like this hit her straight in the heart, because as I mentioned before, she's a respectable character with realistic flaws.
Mi-chan was able to somehow counter her ability by blocking Ripple's vision with walls right? I think WP can take it if it's Unmarked Ripple but for Aces Ripple I think Ripple can win.
>Yes? Ruler saw Nana as an inferior person who succeeded in romance. I doubt she was envious of WP for finding Nana.
Do you have reading comprehension?
The point is that Ruler wanted WP. Not because she's jealous of Nana. She wanted WP before she even knew WP had a girlfriend.
I'm going to say
Ripplebecause I actually really likeher character..
In Unmarked? Nope. Ripple would definitely lose, she's a little too hot-headed at this point to beat her.
Unmarked's power ranking goes like this:
Cranberry>>>Weiss Winterprison=Calamity Mary>Swim Swim>Ripple=La Pucelle>Hardgore Alice
Alright, I see I had misinterpreted what you were talking about.
>also the side story in Circle of Life book where she's a typical tsundere who is jealous of Nana for having a good-looking lover like Winterprison, and wish she had the same thing.
I didn't realize this statement was simply, "Ruler is a tsundere who wants a romantic relationship." I won't argue against that, I'm aware of it too. I mean, sure, I guess you can summarize Ruler's entire character into one generic archetype, forgetting how high she places herself that she would willingly submit to her autistic subordinate. Wait, that was what I was arguing about.
Ruler seemed to be like a good person at core but simply had been embittered by the circumstances of her life to me and put up walls as consequence.
All she needed was some actual acknowledgement and encouragement and good people in her life.
I have no idea what your point is. Ruler had shown that she can get her spaghetti spilled when her subordinate praised her, and that she has a romantic side. These two characteristics mean that there's a possibility that she would reprociate Swim Swim, after exhausting her insult vocabulary.
I'm just really hoping that she's wearing a suit due to the whole necktie thing and hopefully she wears pants just because almost all of the characters in the series wear skirts.
Perhaps it is I who place Ruler too high up in the pedestal. That I had respected Ruler as a proud individual who may have had flaws and unfortunate events but still persevered to achieve her goals.
It would appear everyone else simply sees her as a token tsundere that just wants sex so desperately she abandoned her pride and honor to have sex with a willing subordinate.
>It would appear everyone else simply sees her as a token tsundere that just wants sex so desperately she abandoned her pride and honor to have sex with a willing subordinate.
You are simply an autist who's taking fanon more seriously than the people who like that fanon. Get a grip man.
The girl removed her gas mask and exposed her face. She was smiling, and her lip piercing rang with a crisp metal sound. Cuteness and beauty were a common feature of all Magical Girls so those went without saying but her brilliant, unreserved smile was exactly what Frederica liked. What pleased Frederica most was her bangs, and not just because her hair was lustrous and glossy, but because each strand of that short hair was filled with vitality. Frederica put her hand on Tot Pop’s head and caressed it like she was soothing a child, and the petted Tot Pop turned down the corners of her eyes and looked very comfortable, like a spoiled kitten playing with her mistress.
After Frederica had thoroughly enjoyed herself with the sensation of that hair, she pulled her right hand away and brought it to her nose. She made a big show of sniffing slowly at it, before sighing in satisfaction.
>It would appear everyone else simply sees her as a token tsundere that just wants sex so desperately she abandoned her pride and honor to have sex with a willing subordinate.
I'm interested in hearing where you got this impression from. Because most fanart if them depict:
1) Swim holding a dead/unconscious Ruler
2) Swim forcing herself on a blushing/crying/bewildered Ruler
3) Ruler berating Swim
4) Them standing side-by-side looking cool
On the fanfic side, the R-18 ones are all rape that turned sweet in the end.
>She removed her gas mask, revealing rough and tussled blonde hair. Her bangs had a red dyed tip, and she wore what seemed like a punk-style hair bow. Leather, with spikes on them.
>Such beautiful hair, paired up with such unseemly decorations. A shame.
>But still, she came. How long has it been since Pythie’s talked to anyone? Time didn’t flow here normally. It could be days. It could be ages. It could be centuries.
>The blonde rock star bowed her head towards Pythie. Pythie smiled, and placed her finger in between her own hair, twirling it about.
>“You haven’t changed, Tot Pop.”
>“But why would I, Master? Hmm?” replied Tot Pop.
Jesus Fucking Christ.
I feel offended. How is this allowed? How did this pass by unnoticed for so long?
It was an exaggeration. Of course that isn't the only interpretation of Ruler. It was simple one interpretation of Ruler, one that's OOC. It answered the question: "got changed by the fanbase, what do you mean?"
This is more than just mistakes. This is intentionally writing fanfiction. I don't remember him ever admitting it. All he ever said was "conveying the same thing."
How are we supposed to believe he won't fabricate stuff in V2? The anon who did the comparison stuff to defend TL-kun could barely read moon, so he couldn't state anything credible either on the overall accuracy.
What reason did he even give for, "this"? What reason could there even be?
I had heard they were summary-lations so I was just slightly miffed, but this is straight-up fanfic-tier wrong stuff.
>one that's OOC
Your head is pretty far up your ass huh. I don't even ship that pair but I thought a tsundere Ruler reciprocating Swim Swim is one of the most plausible interpretations of their relationship. You don't have to like an interpretation to realize its plausibility.
>Last week, or about the time I boarded the plane actually, I took some time to read in the long... 24-ish hours flight? So I read all of MGRP again.
>Then I noticed that about 3-4 pages of a side story in my Episodes book was missing, it's the Top Speed one.
>So I had a mini-heart attack, and I combed through every book looking at every page number, and I found out that a JOKERS epilogue page, 2 pages were also missing,
It was and still is a small community, there aren't that many people to double check. You're partially at fault for blindly believing fan translations. No point in getting offended. TL-kun is obviously getting flak for it now, so you either have to wait until he improves or someone else replaces him.
An anon did a random Restart page last thread. Can anyone check the TL-kun version?
>Before becoming Lapis Lazuline, this girl had been doing magical girl activities under the name Blue Comet. While working hard, she caught the eyes of the previous Lapis Lazuline, who already at the time had a reasonable status within the Land of Magic and was seeking for talents.
>The previous Lapis Lazuline had earnestly pestered Blue Comet.
>Both her body and mind were tired, and she could not continue being a magical girl anymore. But she wanted the name Lapis Lazuline to continue, as a sort of evidence of her existence. If possible, she wanted that name to be passed down through many generations in the future. In exchange, she would teach the successor everything she knew about magical girls. She would turn the successor into the best magical girl, just to have that one wish granted.
>How self-interested. That person did not think about other people's troubles at all. Normally, nobody would heed such a request. But Blue Comet wasn't an ordinary magical girl. She was a magical girl who found and was found by a weirdo. She loves anything fun or interesting. So if something sounds amusing enough, she would throw her own name away to inherit another's.
>Originally, changing a magical girl's name was not permissible. But the previous Lapis Lazuline had used her status and personal connections to the fullest extent, getting everything ready for the succession.
>This is intentionally writing fanfiction
Except this isn't. That's implying that he's changing the story which isn't true. What TL-kun is doing is abbreviation. In other words cutting things out and keeping things brief.
Everything that happens in this scene >>153597636 for example
all comes before the 2nd line >>153597859
. TL-kun did this so that he could proceed through the story more quickly and show us future arcs.
He's improving it, and admitting he fucked up so thats all well and good, I am curious as to how this happened in the first place, but as long as its getting dealt with, it doesn't really matter to me, others might feel differently, but whatever
I'm pretty fine with it since it'll get corrected anyway.
I've experience the duwang scans and the old part 5 translations of Jojo that butchered everything and was like that for a few years so I can handle this.
We're trying to see the level of fanfiction here. Narration turned into dialogue. Events that didn't happen miraculously happened. You can't defend him for "making mistakes" with this dishonesty.
Holy fuckin shit this level of butthurt because the translation wasn't spot on is unreal.
I mean really. You guys are going too far calling it "fanfiction". But that doesn't entirely excuse TL-kun's inadequate translation but I understood why he did it at the time and he's already said he's going to improve on it at a later time. So stop getting your knickers in a twist
“I’m the second Lapis Lazuline. I took on her name when she retired.”
“Hang on… you’re telling me you’re not Lapis Lazuline?”
“Not originally. I was Blue Comet back then. She told me she’d spent a lifetime, hundreds of years as a Magical Girl. She was tired, and she wanted a successor. She was like, super powerful, top notch in the Land of Magic, so she convinced whoever’s up there to allow her name, Lapis Lazuline, to be exchangeable.”
She said this all so casually.
“So you’re the second?”
“Yeah. Everything she had was transferred over to me. Her suit, her name. I became Lapis Lazuline, and I wanted to live up to it.”
This seems about the place, people calling it fanfiction are exaggerating, it seems basically like an abridged version like the other anon was saying
>Holy fuckin shit this level of butthurt because the translation wasn't spot on is unreal.
Well, no shit Sherlock. How else are people supposed to react to a supposed translation not being accurate at all? With glee and happiness?
>Always see a thread of this series up
>Get curious and watch the anime
>Thoroughly enjoy it
>From what I had picked up from seeing the threads on the frontpage the novels were translated as well
>Got in here to ask for where I could find them
>My face after reading the thread
What do I do now? Do I just wait?
Personally, I appreciate him and his hard work on the series so far. I probably wouldn't have even seen this series without him. However, intentions are good and all but many people will only see the end result if they don't interact with the community. Which is the reason for his current reputation. It's only temporary if he knocks the revisions out of the park. Hopefully he can redeem himself in everyone's eyes.
It first got noticed because an anon was reading analyses and asked why he didn't remember the TL having something the nips said. Other moonspeakers started to check out what raw they can find. The rest is history.
>This seems about the place, people calling it fanfiction are exaggerating, it seems basically like an abridged version like the other anon was saying
It varies honestly. This piece is just like you said and while serviceable enough it's missing tons of detail, but let's just say it works enough, however, the piece posted here >>153597636 >>153597859 is completely different in nearly every sense. He might as well have written "hairfag touched top pot hair and came like the hairfag pervert she was" and it would have been more accurate.
Give them a read still, they're good reads and they're being updated with more stuff a couple times a week, plus the more recent stuff is fine since the translator has proofreader nips
He's editing the chapters for an accurate TL twice a week, so it gets updated fairly often, you can either keep up with those or just read it and then reread when the edits come out
Anyone could tell that Duwang was a shit translation that could barely get the gist of what was going on at first glance. It made no effort to be, or appear, to be more than that. That you are comparing it to this situation when they couldn't be any more alike is completely disingenuous of you.
If you try to pass something as something that is not is and you get caught red handed of course there is gonna be backlash.
>plus the more recent stuff is fine since the translator has proofreader nips
An anon had posted an excerpt of Queens chapter 5 he found on a blog (the paragraph where Deluge was talking to Pfle), and that was mistranslated. Another anon mentioned that chapter 4 missed a whole thing about Lethe commanding Shufflins to retreat and tactically advanced.
I don't know what kind of nip he was speaking to, but they either can't speak English and he can't speak Japanese, or that they didn't help with his new stuff at all. Which mean it's the usual level of "accuracy."
> is completely different in nearly every sense.
Its not that its different, its that it wasn't added in TL-kun's version, this >>153597636 scene is an extension of the 1st line of TL-kun's version here >>153597859. Its not changed, TL-kun just missed this part out entirely.
Well, okay. I'll re-ask where can I find the LNs. And which ones have been "fixed" so that I know which ones to not touch at all.
Furthermore, has this "fixed" stuff been checked by others so that the same thing is not happening?
Like the anon above said there was stuff missing so he took it out entirely because he was trying to rush it out, so paragraphs were skipped, a bad mistake and one that is being corrected
Only a couple chapters had been retranslated.
And no, they had not been really checked. The anon who claimed its new accuracy at 80% was someone who couldn't really read nip himself so yeah.
>Furthermore, has this "fixed" stuff been checked by others so that the same thing is not happening?
The V2 version is pretty accurate, from what we've seen, although so far only 1.5 and a few chapters of arc 2 have been updated.
He didn't just skip entire paragraphs. He rewrote the dialogues and adding nonexistent details.
I won't argue with someone in deep denial like you anymore. Anyone who saw the rwo comparisons above can see for themselves how butchered the TL is. Your excuses will just look laughable.
Are you mental? The one who did the comparison is the chink anon. He said himself that the new TL is "80-90% accurate," but he also admited that he couldn't really read nip, because he couldn't translate the fanbook interviews.
You keep flinging that word. I don't think you understand what it means. Everyone is getting angry at the very real comparisons they saw above. There's nothing exaggerated about it. The truth speaks for itself.
He said he didn't read through the whole thing and just did random paragraph checks to save time, since going through it all would be cumbersome, then some other anon said for all we know you could have gotten lucky and gotten a correct passage and it's only 80 percent right which some people such as you seemed to have latched on to as an absolute fact, that anon was just speculating and trying to get the checker to do the whole chapter line by line which would be a tedious waste of time
you're latching on to some throwaway line about petting Tot Pop's head and using that as an indication of the whole TL, there are plenty of moments where its just an abridged version of whats happening, 90 percent is a really big fucking number to throw around as a guess and hyperbolic, hence why its exaggerating, not saying there is nothing wrong, there is something wrong and its being fixed, but chill out a bit
I'd rather have the TL we have, as its gotten me into the series, and now that its being improved over time I have an excuse to reread, some people are just being confrontational over things we already know, and things that are being fixed for no reason, but to each their own, I'd just rather not argue anymore
I'm not assuming anything, I'm just soeaking facts:
- the checker claimed v2 is 80-90% accurate from 2 random pages
- the checker cannot really japanese, being unable to translate small interview questions
So those are facts that we have to keep in mind. Stating "oh yeah it's accurate now!" is baseless conclusion.
I can't find the thread in the archive, so I can't provide direct quotes or anything, but the checker said that the lines he read were accurate, the 80 to 90 percent guy was someone else. Also he provided the raw along with his interpretation, the only complaints on the TL in the thread I'm remembering was one autist whining about Miyokata's exclamation points, everything else was fine, if you can find the thread in the archive and prove me wrong, please do
What? I'm the random anon checker. The guy that rolls dice to check randomly. I'm not the Chink anon at all. I can't even speak Chink.
When did I say that I was?
I remember saying that I consider it 80-90% accurate, someone said that's not good enough, and I said that my bar is different than their bar, because for me, 90% is just when a sentence like
"This is not the same Magical Girl as before"
"Snow White isn't the same Magical Girl as before"
I remember what I said, and I never claimed to be the chink anon.
no one is saying shit is correct, but you are throwing around a baseless accusation that the V1 TL is 90 percent incorrect with no proof and you expect people not to say thats a hyperbole, if you wanna throw around large statements like that then provide backup. Otherwise just say its largely inaccurate and move on
>>153597859 anon here. It seems like I've caused a misunderstanding and people have assumed that this specific passage I took from TL-kun's version is what was put INSTEAD of >>153597636.
That is incorrect, I should have been a little more specific, only the first line of the segment I posted has any connection to the other passage. I posted the next several lines to show you the part that happens afterwards.
I am sorry for this confusion.
I agree. I'm truly shocked at how much TL-kun has mistranslated, and purposely at that, but without him I wouldn't have the slightest clue as to what this series is or who the characters are. And I really do love this series.
If there's any optimism to be taken from this whole situation, I'm at least excited to re-read accurate translations and fall in love with the characters all over again, as they were intended to be.
I don't really mind, because, think about it, without that translation these threads wouldn't exist because nobody is fast enough as the current TL, and while the TL isn't exactly accurate the events and situations are, so after everything is re-TL'd then I can safely re-read everything, which is great because my favorites arcs are gonna be even better now.
Since I just got to this thread like 5 minutes ago and saw some misconceptions about myself.
I'm the random checker anon. I am not the chink anon. I've never posted translations of the fanbook at all.
I have posted pages of Restart for comparison with TL-kun. Someone then asked me to translate an entire page of Restart to compare. Then, I posted SWRP's random check, only one post. After that, I posted one for the Palette side story.
These are things that I have done personally in the threads beforehand.
I never claimed to not be able to read Nip, in fact, I can't read Chink. So, JP is my area, not CN.
I agree, I'm glad some people are looking at the situation with optimism and looking toward the future rather than criticizing what's already done and what we already know, these threads are fun when there is no pointless arguing, plus the new V2s always generate more discussion which is fun
>Where are the other lines from?
Basically after Pythie stops perverting around with Tot Pop, she comments on her disappointing sense of fashion, which is the second line of the segment I posted.
I'm pretty sure it's just one anon claiming it's fanfiction, I mean, while characters details and interactions are missed the plot is the same, it isn't like X character that really died is alive or Y fight didn't happen in the TL version, so for me it's pretty much the same dish by with less seasoning if you catch my drift, then again, I care more about the plot itself rather than the girls.
TL-kun can just post 5 sentences summary of the books and labeled it a translation, and you would still claim it's not 90% wrong. You have no common sense, or are missing the point on purpose.
How obtsuse does one have to be to think that "fanfiction" must mean the backbone events (who die who survive for example) must be inaccurate?
Because that's completely false, unless you can copy paste stuff from the Japanese wiki to compare right now, if it is as you say then I could do that, besides I would also give TL-kun shit if it wasn't for the fact he's actually fixing the mistake so that means I can eat the same dish but now it's better than before and that's pretty damn great.
>Only the important plot-events matter
Might as well read a wikipedia description then. What's the point of reading the novels themselves if that's the only thing you care about?
I generally agree with >>153600540 >>153600416 >>153600471 but the people who are going "Who cares if he omitted stuff, there's character detail missing or events are mistranslated as long as the gist of the important stuff is there" are just as bad as the people saying 99.9% of the translation is fanfiction. Give credit where it's due, but also criticize what deserved critic. Don't be a sheep without spine.
Sure, I could post a page. Again, I'd prefer to type out the raw Japanese so that people can read for themselves what the raw is like, and even non-speakers can copy/paste it to some translator program so they could get some idea of it.
Plus, with me typing it out, I can easily match RAW -> TL-kun for more clarity if he missed something etc. etc.
I also am trying not to translate things on my own (unless people really want me to) cuz comparing two TLs isn't as productive as comparing RAW to the TL.
But here's the page. This is from the recent chapter that came out yesterday-ish, since I feel like he's doing his V2 kinda checks in there.
I can look up the stuff in TL-kun's doc for the matching sentences, but I'd prefer to write it word by word, in my next post.
>so are the passage in the TL and the one you posted different passages or what?
No. What I posted is exactly how it is written in TL-kun's version. This passage >>153597636 was done by another anon and its an extension of the first line that I posted here only.
>that's just objectively false
Except it's not.
Use google translate to read through every book summary and characters. It's extremely detailed. You only care about the events and not endearing characters at all, right?
I can't read nip, can you do the same thing you did the last time, with posting the raw text in the thread and your TL of a single page so we can compare. No need to TL the whole thing or anything just accuracy checks and helping out
What the hell why is it sideways, hang on. This should be fixed. Anyways, TL-kun's stuff in the next post, with me writing out the RAW as I prefer it that way.
Funny how you quoted my twice, which means you pretty much agree with me, now, I believe I expressed myself wrong or something like that because you might believe I don't give a shit about the characters, which it's wrong because I care as anyone else here, but unlike others I care more about the plot rather than them, and that's one of the great things about MGRP how you can get drawn to the plot and it's characters rather than the characters only like many other series, so having the plot right and some omitted stuff is fine given how TL-kun was rushing it and he's gonna fix his mistakes so I can safely re-read everything knowing it's fully correct now, so I apologize if my previous post made you believe I only care about the plot.
V2 Restart Chapter 3
>That amount of money would be 5 times more than what she would’ve earned last January. That would be nice to get.
Can you check these sentences?
Because I can not find it in CN version, instead of it, it has
Not him, but nobody care about you. Get a hold of yourself.
The topic is the TL accuracy. Everyone wants to know factual rate of accuracy (not through opinionated vague number, but hard proof comparison samples). If you don't care about being fed made up shit, goid for you, shut up. Other people who care will talk about it, and it's not your place to tell them to not mind.
Exactly. TL-kun has already admitted his mistakes and is going to correct them in the future. There's really no need to discuss about this so much. If you still have a problem with this then either do it your fucking self, get someone else who can read nip to do it or wait till YP releases come out.
What? I don't recall telling someone else to shut-up or stop complaining about it, I just gave my impression about the whole thing, Is there something wrong with giving an opinion about the topic at hand while discussing it with someone else?
What's wrong with calling out a dick move? As you can already with this threads, many people actually thought the TL was simply a summary. They had no idea it's been changed into fanfiction realm. That's why they're angry, because it's news to them.
Your defensive behavor is cancenrous. What is it to you that people are angry when they just found out how much they've been deceived? If you don't like it, fuck off until the storm die down. Don't tell people what they're supposed to feel. Especially using bullshit excuse and stubborn damage control.
I think he meant that there's no reason to discuss stuff we already know about because we already know its getting fixed, and if you really feel the need to discuss it then bring something new to the table, at least thats my take on it
but we vented this all a while ago, before the v2 started coming out I believe, so since we know its being fixed, why vent again, it just derails the threads, which are usually a good time. Unless there are new people here from the last time this argument was had, but from what I can tell its mostly the same people arguing, so personally I don't see the point, but again, thats just me
>“Oh, I almost forgot, there’s some other stuff too!”
>She also began distributing bags with colas and potato chips.
>While working, everyone smacked their lips.
>Puk Puck dropped by Shadow Gale.
>“Shadow Gale, when you’re all done with work, you’re gonna be in charge of launching it, mmkay?”
>Out of all the other Magical Girls, Shadow Gale could feel only honor at being selected as the chosen one.
>“Okay!” she replied with a raised voice.
>“Alrighty, then! Here you go!”
>A piece of paper was presented
>On the A4 sized paper, various things were written on it
>A checkmark was attached to it.
>It looked to either be a questionnaire or a contract of some kind.
There's one line above in the Japanese is literally something like "The voice selecting Shadow Gale over many other Magical Girls as the special person made Shadow Gale honored"
TL-kun's version was something like
"Out of all the other Magical Girls, Shadow Gale could feel only honor at being selected as the chosen one."
Personally I'm fine with it, since it's still clear in English. Make that as you will. The rest of the page is accurate, in that I can easily find it in the TL. But I'm running out of space.
the sad thing about people like Postarie and Tama in the magic department is that they are just not pathetic enough to have no magic potential, but will be trash as MG because they barely meet the minimum MP
Tama had a 3 in Magic Potential, it's not amazing, but nowhere close to bad. It's pretty mid-tier.
Her physical stats could be trained, and both her confidence and intelligence could have made gigantic leaps had someone cared about her and nurtured her.
Tama could have easily been one of the strongest magical girls.
>They had no idea it's been changed into fanfiction realm
Because it hasn't, stop being a fucking moron about it.
> As you can already with this threads, many people actually thought the TL was simply a summary.
Maybe because it is? Hurr durr.
>Your defensive behavor is cancenrous.
Okay I don't know where you get this idea, I've never once said that TL-kun's version was great or even good for that matter because yes that would be delusional. But you going on and on and on and consistently trash-talking TL-kun like its the worst thing in the world, when he's already going to be fixing his mistakes is not necessary and you're just being a dick yourself.
>What is it to you that people are angry when they just found out how much they've been deceived?
Deceived? Yes of course TL-kun would spend hours and hours of his free time, without getting paid to translate a series for us, only that the cake is a lie. Again stop being over-the-top. The only people that seem to be "angry" is you and one or two other anons, the rest aren't because we already know TL-kun is fixing it.
>If you don't like it, fuck off until the storm die down. Don't tell people what they're supposed to feel. Especially using bullshit excuse and stubborn damage control.
I can say what the fuck I like and I'll say it again. TL-kun is going to be fixing his translations and based on this >>153601973
its accurate. If you're still going to whine about it. Translate yourself, getting another nip-reader to do it or wait until "professional" release comes out.
>Missing the entire point.
Basically this is the thread currently, its like I'm TL-kun and I build you a bed that's wobbly and has several loose screws, yet you're still complaining about it when I'm already at a DIY store getting the tools needed to fix the bed.
lets just end all this here, the Queens TL proved to hold up under that one anons comparison to the raw and the dead horse has been beaten to a pulp, so let this all die here please
You know what would be a really cool idea for the next side volume, a Nemurinland collection of magical girls that had never met before but would play off each other well and their dream adventures in different side stories. Like a Postarie, Tama adventure and stuff like that
But the stuff isn't already known. Everytime someone brought up it's inaccurate, someone would immediately say it's baseless. Then when soneone showed the proof, the defenders changed their tune saying "just missing details, nothing was changed." Then when some big changes were shown, they changed their tune again saying "we all knew, stop talking about it!"
The pattern is clear. Soneone simply can't stand people being angry when they have a good reason to be angry. If only you had admited the anger was justified, we wouldn't have had drawn out shitstorm everytime something new came up. You're just a bunch of pretentious cocksuckers who can't say anything relevant.
no one is saying the anger isn't justified, its just that we've been over this, and its clear that all the people actively participating in the argument are the same people in the last one. We know shits bad, we know its getting fixed stop beating the dead horse and move the fuck on already, let this convo die here
I know I'm trying to be neutral and stuff, but I'd also like to put my two cents in that I am a fan of the series.
The TLs that TL-kun's been doing so far (talking about V2) have been accurate.
The arguments and stuff need to stop. I'm seeing a lot of new people being driven away from reading because of these arguments, and it sucks because I want readers to read these books. I want new fans to get in this fanbase too.
After a while, I decided to install Discord to help TL-kun as well whenever I could help. You're free to criticize his work, both V1 and V2, pointing out inaccuracies, discussing content, comparing with other moonspeakers, etc.
But I feel I should take a stand from my neutrality if you're bashing the guy himself. He seriously works on these things literally anytime he's not working on college from what I've talked with him.
He's shown me the drafting room where he types up stuff and google docs things.
The reason Hell Survival Games is taking a bit long, he's physically typing out the Japanese so that any potential proofreaders can see it, since that's a Comiket only book and only he has it out of his proofreading team.
I just talked with him this morning. He's reading Chapter 8 of QUEENS before he went to class, and apparently stayed up all night after posting Chapter 7 of QUEENS reading Interview with Swim Swim cause some people on a Discord group wanted him to livetranslate and read it out to them in Japanese followed with English.
Basically, he's taking it very seriously, so you're free to criticize his mistakes, but please try not to bash the guy. From what I've spoken with him, he genuinely seems to love this series and almost everyone here, wondering how the thread's going etc. etc.
But yeah. If anyone ever needs to check some of his stuff, I'm glad to help out.
Also, just for the record. I do not speak Chink, my area is JP. I've never posted the Fanbook translations. That's a diff anon.
Why is Snow White so shit?
Why is her design so bland?
Why is such a needy slut who sluts herself to the first one who shows her the slightest bit of attention?
Why is she so whiny?
Why is she so edgy?
>consistently trash-talking TL-kun like its the worst thing in the world
You realize that nobody did that? Quote any quote that anybody did that.
Exaggerating to make someone else look bad doesn't help your case. Fuck back to tumblr if you're a hypersensitive piece of shit who can't handle reasonable criticism.
isn't her normal one magic enhanced? Not sure
thanks for everything you do, and thanks for confirming the accuracy of the v2, personally I love the guy and I'm glad he's getting help and cares enough about the series to do what he does, because I know I couldn't do it with this level of dedication. Thanks for all you work too anon. Hopefully we can lay this to rest. And I also agree on bringing new people into the series, we scare them off with this kind of arguing, even more so since we know its being fixed and it makes us come off as confrontational and unreasonable, I hope more people get into it as well
She didn't slut herself to La Pucelle though unless you count fanart
Nemruin land is like the ideal place to tell all the stories about dead MG interacting that you want, I hope Endo takes advantage of it
I'm assuming they take from multiple decks so they have more than the standard 13 with them at the moment
Why is Deluge so shit?
Why is her design so bland?
Why is such a needy slut who sluts herself to the first one who shows her the slightest bit of attention?
Why is she so whiny?
Why is she so edgy?
>I'm assuming they take from multiple decks so they have more than the standard 13 with them at the moment
Then it would be weird if all the Shufflins there are not faces and Aces ones.
>Souta becomes LaPu when he's at home
What a little fag
I bet he has a collection of dragon dildoes to fuck herself all night every night too while Koyuki watches him and calls him demeaning names
Oh and I feel I should clarify.
Arguments about TL accuracy and content are fine. Especially on new content.
But the same arguments about how "V1 is bad" "No it isn't" "Yes it is" "Nuh-uh it's not THAT bad" "It IS that bad" is the one I'm talking about.
Mostly because I think we've all seen that TL-kun is doing a V2.
I think we can put that part to rest, and just discuss the V2 stuff when it comes out.
Also, when I say "when you bash the guy himself", I'm talking about the one time in a previous thread where I believe someone called him a "fuckwad cocksucking asshole" or something (paraphrasing).
No one really did that too much here, which is good, but I just gotta let that out there.
Anyways yeah. Debate and discuss about TL accuracy, especially the new content, that's fine.
Just not the same rotating ones please. We've seen enough of those.
And please don't assume things that I never said too, that'd be kind.
If you're soeaking with him, can you ask him to show his good will by releasing the RAW for the book? Just the Hell Survival would be fine, since that's something not many people have.
Having the RAW would enable many moonspeakers to check and report to us. If TL-kun is really transparent as he said he is, he would do that. Honest people would not mind having their stuff scruntinized.
is the the latest in shitpost technology? Amazing>>153602902
Why is Ripple so shit?
Why is her design so bland?
Why is she such a needy slut who sluts herself to the first one who shows her the slightest bit of attention?
Why is she so whiny?
Why is she so edgy?
He already said it helps with the fatigue after coming home from his salaryman job in the follow-up
And if Koyuki is anything like the rest of this guy's comics she'll be using the dragon dildos on LP herself
>Becoming a wageslave rather than taking advantage of his cute magical girl form and becoming a pro-cosplayer or a twitch streamer or something else like that
Sou-chan is an idiot
>I'm talking about the one time in a previous thread where I believe someone called him a "fuckwad cocksucking asshole" or something (paraphrasing).
I'm pretty certain that guy was reverse trolling. I and at least two other guys had been consistently polite and reasonable in our criticism, but there's this one guy who never made a point with his post, just throwing out random words like you said.
>tfw this is only partially translated
>and apparently stayed up all night after posting Chapter 7 of QUEENS reading Interview with Swim Swim cause some people on a Discord group wanted him to livetranslate and read it out to them in Japanese followed with English.
Damn I wish I was present for that.
SG is that you?
yeah most of the people have been polite, but I think we should all agree to stop arguing on the V1, no use in it, we'll talk about new content as its released and use comparison anon to check for accuracy
Origin of the Weeb
Melville meeting Cranberry and her background
2 Side stories dedicated to
Cranberry tests, Pfle/SG and Bell's maybe
The transcript for a full episode of Magical Daisy
Rionetta's Mafia adventures
A day in the life of Plfe and SG before the game
Wedin's weeb and school life. Bonus if shitposting on MG forums with LP and Genopsycho included
Rain Pou and Postarie fun times
Grace and Funny Trick adventures
KKH's journey to being a teacher
7753's first meeting with Pfle
Mana and Hana background, how they grew up, etc..
Mao Pam beating people up, doesn't really matter who or why
Pukin and Sonia's first meeting
Pythie and Tot Pop's first meeting and their training, feat. Keek
Literally any background on Uttakatta
How Lady Proud met Umbrain and maybe a bit of the fallout of
Mao Pam's deathand how she dealt with it
Shufflin and CQ shooting the shit and bitching about GH
GH creation and origin story, though that may be covered in the main novels at some point
A day in the life of the warden Filuru
PE happy fun times feat Cherry
Marika and Mimi meeting for the first time
teaching Ripple how to be Stuntchica
>but I think we should all agree to stop arguing on the V1, no use in it, we'll talk about new content as its released and use comparison anon to check for accuracy
There's a difference between persistent talking about it, and bursting out in anger from surprise.
When someone showed some new comparisons, it alerted people of the level of actual fabrication. It let them be more aware of how far a translator is willing to deceive them. It's alright to get angry. The correct response is to let them express their anger then move on to the next topic. But here, we have a dedicated white knight group who don't want tohear anything bad about TL-kun, and will bend any argument backwards just to defend him. That is not all right.
If you truly admit TL-kun was wrong, then say he was wrong. Don't taint an apology with excuse. People will forgive him. The reason they continue to get angry is because of your constant defensive behavior.
>we have a dedicated white knight group who don't want tohear anything bad about TL-kun, and will bend any argument backwards just to defend him. That is not all right.
Except nobody is doing what you suggested stop making shit up and put this topic to rest already. Everybody else has, you should do the same
maybe Cutie Altair or one of the Four Emperors or Eight Devas
One of the legendary old Mao School events with Lethe
The birth of PP and her life throughout the ages
Three Sisters first meeting and gettting to know each other
Bounty Hunters meeting and forming their team
Deluge's daring raid on the lab and freeing and meeting/getting to know the ABC trio
Osk faction corporate bullshit and grunts complaining
Laz III backstory
Some more info on the random girls of PP faction or Osk faction like Metally, or Magical Pongey, Beastman Brandia, Illunail, etc..
Slightly less censored version http://i.imgur.com/gOYrtzJ.jpg
Melville meeting Clamberry for the first time
Melville and Marika training with Clamberry, Marika teasing her gay obsession
Human Rionetta and Miyokata met in real life but didn't know who the other was
Grace beating up Trick's karate teacher
Pukin and Sonia first meeting
Pythie training Keek
Hana and Mana being cute
Proud discovering Umbrain's softness
Proud and Umbrain ordinary day at work
Anything about Uttakatta
Human Quake making friend with a random loli, then human Patricia is suspicious of her
Some ship tease between Inferno and Deluge
An ordinary day of GH
Bluebell being affectionate and accomodating as usual and Deluge being rude and demanding as usual
Pfle and SG actually having a warm relationship
More Sorami and drunk Sachiko
Mi-chan being cool at another assassin job
>they released MGRP oppai pads
>no LP one
You just lost yourself $50 Japan.
That was actually the artist's own thoughts on the matter if I remember correctly
>A day in the life of the warden Filuru
She said herself that her job was just sitting around and waiting so it'd just be:
>day one - nothing
>day two - nothing
>day 156 - a bug on the wall
My vote goes to Lady Proud and her ability that involves her blood
Hardgore Alice also gets a mention because of her habit of facetanking things and literally cutting herself to show her ability off
Unmarked got to show up on TV and that means a lot
Somebody who made a LP doujin also made a clantail illustration
This guy's also drawn characters up to Limited (including a Mao Pam lewd http://i.imgur.com/3k4Y5u2.jpg ) but I have to admire the sheer amount of degenerate situations he draws La Pucelle in. It constituted a lot of the degeneracy here, I'll admit.
Oops, I think I posted those out of order.
He didn't make one yet but have a pantyshot
>tfw realized I've been imagedumping for two hours
Great way to spend a friday night