Aqua " Turn undead!"
Ainz Ooal Gown "Oh no, plz."
>maxed holy attribute resistance through p2w
>welp, time for Baptism by Roach
Is this a power wank thread? Okay here goes
Author's self insert >> GOD > Gods/Demons > Angels/Fiends > Avatars/champions/heroes >>>>>>> Mortals > subservient races > food > material > Ur mum
>implying Aqua is the real danger
Turned Baharuth Empire into a vassal state by accident
This damn Skeleton!
He can't keep getting away with this!
Two virgins who desperately want the dick from their respective MCs comforting each other? I could get behind that, though I don't see how it would possibly work out unless it was a wordless doujin.
Kazuma's party is actually pretty op.
Kazuma's steal ability combined with high luck means he can instantly take whatever he wants from an opponent
Megumin has absurdly destructive magic
Darkness has high strength and endurance
Aqua can instantly resurrect people, undo curses, purify any body of water, and can summon ridiculous floods.
Pretty OP doesn't really compare to a max level group of people with a horde literal cheat items at their side.
Plus Kazuma can't steal anything he wants. We've already seen that he can steal useless items from the enemy, and his luck does fail against people whose luck stats are higher. Ainz' luck stat realistically has to be quite high as well, and he likely has a fucking cash shop item to negate stealing. Either that, or he would just prioritize killing Kazuma, and then preventing Aqua from resurrecting.
Even a simple lich would have immunity against effects that turn undead, let alone the supreme being Ainz Ooal Gown-sama.
IN ORDER OF USEFULNESS
Kazuma- self proclaimed jack of all trades adventurer but actually the leader+thief and only reliable dps
Aqua- white mage, resurrection, healing, strong against the undead
Megumin- AoE (once a day), luggage mule
Darkness- Tank, zero dps
Honestly just Kazuma and Aqua would do well enough without the other two baggage.
i wouldn't say wordless im sure the MCs would do plenty of talking in between the respective "A-Ainz sama" and "K-Kazuma san" and moaning
too bad she's clinically retarded and will fuck up more than the rest of them combined
From what I remember of the character sheets all of Ainz's stats are in the high hundreds.
Kazuma has high luck for his level, but It's probably not above 50+. it'd be like a low level rogue trying to gank a max warlock in wow.
>i wouldn't say wordless
Albedo wouldn't have sex with someone else before having sex with Ainz though, hence why it'd be hard to get any kind of story going for it. Yes, yes, I know, "doujin" and "story"/"plot" don't go together, but still.
The most attractive vaule of Yggdrasil was FUCK HUGE world that even after 12 years of existance was not explored and massive customization options.
It was pretty much Fashion Souls the MMO.
Hey Goy, tired of being murdered by the OP as fuck FotM? Here's a helpful cash shop item that rapes rogues in the ass when they dare to stealth near you.
Hey rogues, tired of being raped in the ass by a cash shop item? Well I've got a metal plate sold only in the cash shop that fits right over your ass.
Really its a Dr. Seuss book in MMO form.
Ainz likely has many levels over aqua and therefore greater resistances. I mean YGG player characters fought gods as raid bosses on a regular basis. Ainz has already shown he can BTFO someone thats the SAME level and has a build/class that directly coutners him: shalltear is a cleric, or rather a blood valkyre and uses holy magic. ainz still outplayed her. aqua's minor goddess teir holy magic aint gona do much if he stacks resist gear he also is in the top 20 PvPers with a fucking lich RP build. Ainz is also pretty damn smart. id say smatter than kazuma for comparison, just not nearly as much of an ultimate keikaku master demi wants him to be.
aqua is intelligence below average.
Yggdrasil is balanced, you can find tons of rare items/gear laying around if you just search and even the broken wci can be found on the map.
Mana potions don't exist either so that stops p2w spamming.
Yggdrasil is a near perfect game.
He couldn't steal from Verdia without weakening him first, so its not just >Steal opponents high tier stuff immediately
Plus what would you even get from Ainz? He has like, thousands of stupid rare and valuable things on him.
>too bad she's clinically retarded and will fuck up more than the rest of them combined
But that's actually her main advantage against Ainz
It's easy to predict a slightly above intelligence that thinks himself genious, then to predict a complete retard, anon.
I would say it's her only chance against the Ainz Ooal Gown, the sorcerer king who sees 10000 years into the future and make people dance in the palm of his hand.
Aqua's strength is that she's maxed out. She would be maxed out in all classes. Right now she's nerfed because the container she's held in nerfs her ability, but she can be in any class she wanted and still have near infinite amounts of skill points.
true and seeing how embarrassed dakunessu gets with any escalation i cant see anything realistically happening even in doujinland
they can just flick beans while imagining getting fugged or something like that
vol11. ainz visits/conqures the dorf fortress. kills some molemen, and makes a NEET dragon piss himself.
>he also is in the top 20 PvPers with a fucking lich RP build.
He's said before he'd be upper mid-tier. He's definitely not top 20, seeing as by his very own evaluation he's not even high tier.
Everything else I can't, or won't refute. Especially the part about killing Shalltear, since Aqua is in an even worse situation there. Shalltear was actually fighting Ainz seriously, meanwhile Aqua would break down and cry for Kazuma in no time at all.
>It's easy to predict a slightly above intelligence that thinks himself genious, then to predict a complete retard, anon.
Demiurge's line was referring to Ainz being a retard though, even though Demiurge didn't realize it.
actually that "orb" is a very powerfull WCI that we still dont know the function of. all we know is it is supposed to be a red herring for anyone trying to kill momonga/ainz the guild leader. people will think its his phylacary or something and target it, but actually its supposed to somehow ensure he can always escape. how it does this is yet to be written by the author.
well his GUILD was in that range and he was the one they pumped the most guild resources into. also one of ainz ooal gown's members litteraly wrote the .pdf on YGG pvp. he always underestimates himself too.
>implying mare isnt going to win the bone bowl
His guild was top 20 because of people like Touch Me who were good enough to win the World Championship. You can't say Ainz is bad, but he wasn't the best. The techniques Punitto Moe had for PVPing were likely in use by other high end guilds as well. For argument's sake we could say his were the best used on the server, but there were quite likely equivalents from other guilds, especially seeing as it went on for years after he left the game.
thats what i mean. WE DONT KNOW WHAT IT DOES YET!
a different item [The Book of the Dead] does that. or rather its what turns normal liches into "overlords" but what it does to normal people is yet to be determined. ainz gave it to fleuder to see what happens so when he finishes translating and reading it he could either turn into a normal lich or maybe directly into an overlord. my money is on the former.
Ainz summons cherubim angels just to take a casual stroll around town. the baddass multi winged/deaded cherub not the fat baby eros knockoffs. Water doesnt do shit to undead. they dont need to breath. if she was a fire goddess she might could do some damage combining his two weaknesses with holy fire, but shes just a dumb low rank "goddess" that is in a gimped earth vessel restricted to a "arch preist" level.
But Overlord is already a half-comedy about Papa Bones and his killer kindergarten
The other half is a horror story about the world facing an ancient evil
Okay round 2
>I happened to notice you killing Gods
>Our meeting is fate chosen by the world itself
>I am Megumin! The legendary arch wizard who controls Explosion the most powerful magic!
ainz's has even higher luck stat.
not to mention the serindipidy of the first person he "saves" in the new world being the love interest of likely his biggest threat in the NW and accidentally ensuring npheria's loyalty, his potion making abilities and research, and his wolrd class talent being controlled. all by accident.
>His skill as a player aside, Ainz’s character could only be considered to be in the upper portion of the middle tier of all players. Shalltear’s character build and equipment placed her in the lower portion of the top tier. If she was fully equipped — with divine-class items — she would be in the middle portion of the top tier. If she could change her gear to match her opponent, she might even be able to fight evenly with the upper echelons of the top tier.
This is from the very latest LN. Don't let your headcanon influence things.
even if presented with evidence or witnessing it himself he will never accept it any other way. All the NPCs are like this really but it just shows so well in demi.
The volume 10 is about the consequences of katze massacre and Ainz establishing the Sorcerous Kingdom.
Sorcerous Kingdom: death knights used as guards, elder liches as managers and soul eaters as horses and its grooms.
Re-Estize kingdom: climb being a tool, albedo visiting and meeting a Philip, for whom even the Sorcerer King is merely a pawn!
Slane Theocracy: death knights as guar...the fuck?!
Baharuth Empire: intense bullying of Jercniv by Ainz.
Everything culminates in Empire becoming the vassal state and Demiurge suffering a huge sasugasm.
yes. demi describes them as "two legged sheep" and ainz takes it to be litteral magic hooven animals, but its actually human bandits and "criminals" captured in the area around naz. their skin is routinely flayed to make leather parchment for low level scrolls then they are healed with magicl. rinse. repeat.
What power level would her Turn Undead have to be for it to affect a Level 100 super lich?
Ignoring ones that go into omnipotent reality warping god levels? It's... it's up there.
Like, Nazarick plopped down into any fantasy setting I can think of, would, at the least, become one of the largest political and military powers in that setting, very quickly.
>even if presented with evidence or witnessing it himself he will never accept it any other way
I can accept this based on the Goblins in Carne village. The fact that they can never learn things that are outside their scope, such as the differences between herbs. Maybe the NPCs of Nazarick are programmed to never find fault with the Supreme Beings, even if they were shown to exist.
Though that conflicts with what Albedo is doing, so there must be some additional minutia there.
All of us are sheep in one way or another, Anon.
Damnit, Overlord no long have threads. Now it became a side joke.
>All fits taken are revolved turning undead
>Charisma and wisdom are maxed
>Eagle Splendor and Owl Wisdom
It's all about getting through his resistance that is determined by his level and undead type, max level elder lich is no joke, but he would still suffer sever fucking debuffs, since I suspect the robes he used against Shalltear are just against damage type.
It died too fast for anyone to notice.
Anyway 25th Feb, hope someone upload the artbook.
In Yggdrasil stuff like cooking and gathering herbs required special classes.
Ainz already confirmed that NPCs can't learn these type of skills, but their personality can grow on the other hand.
nice shitpost anon, please tell us about your superior animoo tastes.
Phew! Thanks for telling me that I'm an idiot. I had no idea, if you can believe that. Then again, I'm such a subhuman intellect that I'm surprised I'm even capable of forming sentences on this here magic typing box what connects to to the porno-tubes.
Really doing god's work on this Laotian Shadow Puppet board, anon. Keep it up.
yea thats the thing, "skeleton mage" is a race in YGG from what we understand. "momonga" the PC was born as a full grown skeleton. no mention of bursting from some human(oid) just "a skeleton pops out" and thats your race.
then likely once you max out your racial class levels the book then turns a skely mage into an elder litch, then an elder lich into an overlord.
what it will do to a human is probably just turn fleuder into a basic skeleton mage or at best an elder lich.
meant Aqua, damnit
Here, take a butt
Ainz = Aqua > Aura
Ainz is the hikiNEET of the Overlord universe. It's like asking if Kazuma or Aqua is more socially retarded. Both of them win out over Aura though.
That's without gear/items.
>Ainz considered himself to be among the upper-middle tier of the game’s players. This was because he was focused on taking levels in classes to better roleplay an undead magic caster, and neglected raising his own power. However, given the divine-class items he possessed, as well as his numerous cash items, he might be ranked in the middle of the top tier. Still, he could not take things easy. There was always a bigger fish, after all.
youre not wrong, but youre not correct either.
no. your assumption that all imps are male is incorrect. in my experience an "imp" is usually just a very low level demon. in what series are they all male?
YGG clearly has some unique classifications for evil races. the only distinction in DnD is that between a "devil" which are more lawfull evil and a "demon" being more chaotic evil aligned.
that just means non human you fuckwit
the fuck outa here you kike. or ill get pandora's actor's to enact his final solution
"hetero" means "different" you litteral retard
you're thinking of "hermaphrodite" which is a term for species that is genetically male and female, such as plants, worms, and nearly the entirety of microorganisms.
fucking hell american education at its finest.
I'm American and not even I'm that stupid.
not today shlomo, not today. but soon, BANG BOOM STRAIGHT TO THE 5th FLOOR OF NAZARICK!
yes "heterosexual" means "attracted to a different sex".
how can people be this stupid? it really joggins my noggins.
Eh. there's plenty of ways around that in 3.5.
It's just not usually viable to build around it instead of just becoming more powerful. Ainz is just really fucking lucky that Japan's information hoarding fetish worked in his favor and he never ran into a person that made a build that truly fucks him over.
Ainz THINKS there is no way to mind control an undead without WCI in a game where noone ever told the truth about game mechanics.
is english not your native language?
hetero=different , morphic=shape, so its a "differently shaped race"
im starting to run out of reaction images to call you stupid. but just know that you are beyond a doubt, stupid.
It's Ainz fault.
He gave a really vague command of "take people those disappearance nobody will notice, like bandits".
On top of it Demiurge just happens to be a devil who is nice only to friends.
It is a funny read but once you think about it, Yggdrasil is an absolute trash mmo.
No one with half a braincell would touch it.
according to DC logic megumeme could kill superman because he's weak to magic
I probably would if i lived in shadowrun like Ainz
thats because its less of an MMO and more of a VR dungeons and dragons simulator.\
"fuck balance! being overpowered is fun!" .t- shitty devs
he has a mane's bone structure. wide sholders, narrow hips. this is probably the most accurate art of his real size and proportions. spoilered for those who havent read vol 4 yet.
this? im pretty sure hes still male in this tho and just doing what all boys in nazarick do....
No, it was a pencil drawing.
Ainz was wearing a cute dress, a little similar to what shalltear is wearing.
ok now im sure you just dont know english very well. I know youre trying your best to troll me and everything and im totally feeding you, but overlord threads arent common and im also bumping.
thats pretty normal human skeleton proportions anon. if youre going by the anime then yea ainz's bones are huge. but hes only like 5'8''
dunno but ill post more sexy ainz
long line ahead of you buddy.
Ainz-sama is hot, i wish he was a skelegirl
Also, what Albedo is giving Ainz here?
I hoped that anons would tell me, that's why i am reposting from past thread
>ainz cant solo boss monsters
except that is literally what shalltear is. she is a raid encounter designed to take of entire 30 man raid groups ov lvl100 ygg players. raid boss on nearly every floor of a guild base is one hell of a security system. no raid ever got past 8th floor, usually they never get past aura and mare, but they have died once. likely in the same raid that made it to the 8th floor.
He's not "weak" to magic. He just has no special invulnerability to it. That said, a super strong magic fist doesn't hurt him any more than just a super strong fist. So a giant magic explosion would hurt as much as a giant explosion. So his vulnerability to magic is more like a vulnerability to magic induced status effects.
Example: There's a magic shield that is "unbreakable." A strong enough magic character can override that and break the shield. Superman cannot, at best he can move faster than the shield, or maybe hit it until the caster is unable to continue using the spell. If there's a sword that can "cut anything" a strong enough magic can resist it. Superman cannot, his muscle is dense enough that "cutting through it" might take awhile, and his speed is high enough that he might be able to dodge it though. If a sorceress casts a love spell over a town, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Swamp Thing and Etrigan will have an easy time resisting it. Superman will not, he'll probably have to have a mental conversation with his dad or Lois or get yelled at by Batman to summon up his willpower, before he can break the spell. Which he will, because Superman is just super, like that.
>MMO where you can design your own servants
She's only a raid encounter, on her floor (with the passive buffs of the floor in effect) and with her elite guard. Outside of that she's more a rare/elite encounter.
Who happens to be level 100, with a full auto-resurrect that can clone and heal herself.
Plus she's a CoDzilla.
Captcha: "Click Book." Shows a library.
>Ainz and Kazuma both realize they are in similar situations, though Ainz is clearly better off
>Ainz is happy he found a guy Japan who knows whats going on
>Kazuma is happy he found a rich guy who he can be friends with
>it becomes a sitcom where they have to constantly keep their followers from killing each other
What's wrong with using your overwhelming wealth to overcome your class' disadvantages?
He's as resistant to magic as a normal human. His superhuman stats don't afford him special protection from magic, the way that Zatanna or Dr. Fate might possess. If you cast a spell that alters reality so that say... Lana Lang never existed, Superman won't be any more resistant to it than Jimmy Olsen, Perry White or Wally West.
But he's still Superman, with Superman's super human physiology, musculature and abilities. Captain Marvel has similar levels of strength, invulnerability and speed. But he's based on magic bullshit as opposed to Superman's pseudo-science bullshit. Still, Superman feels a punch from Captain Marvel just as much as he feels a punch from Martian Manhunter. The lightning bolt that Captain Marvel summons IS magical which is why it normally is shown to be a trump card. He can't transform from ANY lightning bolt, or at least, I've never known him to. So the lightning that Cap Marvel summons is explicitly magical, with special properties (probably including punishment spells if someone tries to steal the power by intercepting the bolt) that can injure Superman more than a normal bolt of lightning would. ... Though he's typically shown to be vaguely vulnerable to electricity, also. Hmm...
He has no special defenses from, say, Wonder Woman's lasso of truth, but the fact that she's a divinely animated golem (sometimes) with godly blessings of super strength don't limit him in any way if they get into a fist fight.
A way to think of it: Is the explosion magic, or did magic make an explosion? Did you pull out a magic sword, or did you use magic to make a sword out of stone? It seems pedantic but it would matter for Superman. Actual fire from Hell would cause him way more trouble than a person who uses magic to create super heated oxygen.
Oh! If you've heard of Rifts? Superman has invulnerability against anything that doesn't do mega-damage. This is bypassed by a magic based attack, but his defense stats are still stupidly high.
>in a game where noone ever told the truth about game mechanics.
Plus he hasn't kept up with patch notes in since his guild began to seriously decline. Even he knew information would flow a lot more freely near the end of the game, especially after server shutdown was announced. There may have been specialized classes out there designed to do exactly that which were only leaked to the public at the end.
>Plus he hasn't kept up with patch notes in since his guild began to seriously decline.
Dude knows how 718 spells work by the letter, and knows at least abridged versions of all other popular spells ALONG with being nigh omniscient when it came to leaked game stuff.
Then don't be a fucking speedreader, or barring that don't be an asshole when you're so wrong.
>During the final years of YGGDRASIL, the chances of reliable information being made public on the web was rather high. However, the only time that Ainz really focused his attention on information sites was during the golden period where "Ainz Ooal Gown" was at its peak. The amount of useful information was really limited at that time.
>My knowledge of the game most likely peaked at that time. Although I still paid attention to the announcements made by the Game Administration... this world likely contains YGGDRASIL players apart from myself, thus I need to also consider the risk posed from having less knowledge than them.
If you reply normally I would've just quoted this to you from the get go. Since you're a smug piece of shit, I'll treat you the same in turn.
I don't get Renner.
I wasn't surprised when Albedo walked into a room to have tea with her. I just don't remember any hints that Renner was working with them. When did Renner start working with Nazarick?
Let's be clear here.
Megumin can cast Explosion only once, and it'd be fire-element.
Aqua's Sacred Turn Undead doesn't do more damage than Megumin's spell.
Megumin's Explosion looks like it's Super-Class.
Super Class can't kill Ainz in one hit.
Ainz can instantly kill Aqua after this.
During the Demon arc, and maybe before that. Remember she gives AAG a bunch of prostitutes or whatever. And it's hinted that Demi has been talking to her for a while.
It might not even do damage if it's strictly fire damage. Can't remember if Ainz has complete fire or holy immunity. He mentions it once to cover for his undead weaknesses.
>Megumin can cast Explosion only once, and it'd be fire-element.
Explosion is a combination of Fire and Wind magic. You're still right regardless, however, as even if we're generous in classing it as a Super-Tier skill it can't one shot him with his MR.
>Aqua can't die she is above death. Gods stronger, than undead.
You know normally I would agree, buuuut this shit right here is OP as shit.
You better hope she can survive.
Overlord is actually not that bad. Of course the world and so on are retarded but if you are open minded enough to look beyond the unappealing surface you will discover that Overlord is entertaining enough to be worth watching.
>Explosion is a combination of Fire and Wind magic
Where are you getting this? Ainz does have a WCI on his person at all times, confirmed in the LN.
>Aqua can't die she is above death.
Even if she is there's plenty of other ways to deal with people like that. Dying in D&D is the least of the pains a caster can inflict on you.
Also I call bullshit that she's immune to death. While most pagan deities are immune to death, Aqua isn't a deity right now, she's just really fucking strong. If she were a deity she could just go home.
>What's the point of making so many classes if ~90% of them can be made useless with p2w items?
Going to stop you right there. There wasn't even a class list beyond the basic classes at character creation. If you've found an actually bullshit broken class like the Eclipse that's good on you for actually discovering it.
>goes behind her and looks from every angle to see if she is wearing panties or not
>still can't figure it out.
It's like her ass and vagina are part of a different dimension.
>But detonation series magic are composite spells, you would need deep knowledge of fire and wind magic to master it. This means that people who can learn detonation magic should be able to easily learn other spells.
She stands as a goddess, and have control of souls. She will resurrect herself again and again, and would spam floods and sacred beams.
One would assume if it's listed as a composite skill it deals damage in both categories. That's the way I recall RPGs working with skills like that. Whether or not it does, who knows, they don't go that far.
>incoming How does TGOALID work
At this point I'm just going to start using the King Crimson argument.
Oh I know how it works, but it takes a damn paragraph to explain it to every secondary who refuses to fucking read a novel.
And I'm too lazy to copy pasta.
>The Goal of All Life is Death
>a golden clock appears on the caster's back counting down 12 seconds
>Any instant death spells cast by TGOALID's caster automatically hit their targets regardless of immunity but have their activation time set to the end of the clock's countdown.
I guess 2 sentences is kinda like a paragraph.
I'll hook u rite in tha gabber m8 I swear on me mum
>God tier in MMO isn't really GOD
Anon they've canonically killed gods as midgame raid bosses. Remember that pagan gods are not capital G god, even if they're generally immortal.
Ainz isn't even P2W.
TGOALID removes death immunities, cry of the banshee is the AOE insta death spell.
I mean he did kinda spend a fuckload of money on the gatcha just to get a pair of Wish rings. That said most of his really strong gear was acquired through raiding and crafting.
that's twice now I've seen that. You the same guy? What does that even mean?
Besides, you have to remember, anything taken out of Ygg into NW is taken literal by it's flavor text. If TGOALID says "Death spells work on anything regardless" then that's exactly what happens. And what does happen.
Here we fucking go again
I mean, it doesn't say it in the anime, but the white thing Shaltear summons is a golem, which is immune to insta-death shit. And he kills air for fucks sake. Good luck explaining that shit.
Whale is the rather unflattering name gaming companies give to players that spend a ton of money on microtransactions, like thousands of dollars.
He's really remarkably trusting of them. For whatever reason he believe that because they're so intelligent they must be incapable of misunderstanding his orders and intuit his exact meaning.
It's made pretty obvious that you can't literally whale your way to victory in Ygg with the number of restrictions on P2W items like no mana pots, no way to stop the cooldown on Super tiers, etc.. And most of the shit in the whaleshop that people actually paid for seems to be cosmetic shit - everything else needs to be gacha'd anyway.
Also, it seems pretty much everyone had a good number of gacha items. You were basically expected to use them like you're expected to eat sharks in Classic Runescape PvP.
>They WERE in a no P2W alliance.
No they weren't. Perorocino and Ainz agreed to not buy shit, then Perorocino went and bought a cosmetic.
Wish was kind of shit in Ygg. In the new world it's literally [Wish] from D&D3.5e / PF but even stronger. I have no idea why Ainz is not using it more just to you know get a thousand more Wish rings.
Remove The Fic, Yurifags, Turn into Girl, Baby, and Saturday.
>No they weren't. Perorocino and Ainz agreed to not buy shit, then Perorocino went and bought a cosmetic.
Explain his horde of cash shop items that he regularly uses in the LN then.
Because that was literally before they were a guild you jackass and he has the full equipments, inventories, stashes, and gacha rolls of literally everyone in his guild bar MAYBE the last 3 who didn't leave.
They were by no means a "no P2W alliance", fuck's sake one of their requirements was LITERALLY that you could not be a retarded NEET.
The LNs read like an autism filled fuckfest. Like most LNs infact.
That's why the LN readers act superior to the anime fags because they are autistic and don't realise it.
PS if a description of an event is explained literally down to the basics like 'Ainz used lightning on the metal armoured soldiers. He did this because he was used to metal armoured soldiers using lightning resistance to offset the metal armour increasing lightning damage taken. Ainz didn't expect it to kill them because of his experience' then you have a shitty author.
That's literally what the entire LN reads like as well.
>Because that was literally before they were a guild you jackass
You're really salty for being a dirty speedreader.
>On top of the monthly fees, Momonga spent almost one-third of his monthly salary on cash purchases.
>fuck's sake one of their requirements was LITERALLY that you could not be a retarded NEET.
That rule's actually irrelevant here. You had to be gainfully employed because they only wanted players that really wanted to be there, proven by having them sacrifice their real lives. Buying cash-shop items was a completely separate affair.
>You're really salty for being a dirty speedreader.
The actual events in question where you're claiming they were a "no P2W alliance" were before they were a guild, you dumb fucking shit. Or are you claiming they were a "no P2W alliance" in the prologue when they weren't a guild yet?
It is irrelevant, but it also implies that had the spare money. Yamaiko spent money on Wish rings, Touch Me's effects were a cash effect, and their entire guildbase probably cost a significant amount of money since doing just about everything in Ygg needed actual money.
>hello I've read one LN in my life and I think being a secondaryfag is a good idea because the LN is too wordy for me hurr durr
If you want to be a secondaryfag then don't attempt to involve yourself in discussion of events or plot points, because chances are it was explained in the LN.
>Being extremely salty
The topic of the conversation was whether Ainz was a whale or not. Spending over 33% of your monthly income on a game is definitely him being a whale. The No Pay Alliance thing was simply a side note to that. If you stop speedreading for literally once in your life you'll see I even wrote, "They WERE in a no P2W alliance. They started breaking that, and then started going full splurge"
Stop speedreading. Stop being salty.
>The topic of the conversation was whether Ainz was a whale or not.
No, my argument was that he was not P2W because he wasn't. I made no comment on whether or not he was a whale. Seems like you're the one who's moving goalposts.
>They WERE in a no P2W alliance
Perhaps you need to read more as well, because I said they [never were] a no P2W alliance. Peroroncino and Ainz were, but Peroroncino broke it too right at the start of the Nazarick raid.
>Dying in D&D is the least of the pains a caster can inflict on you.
Ainz is player, Aqua is a "server administrator". But now Iris is "admin", but doesn't mean what Aqua not "admin".
The Princess is stupid smart. She probabaly figured how things where going to happen in the future and made plans to get on the winning sides good graces. Plus she get's race changing items so it's all good. Wonder what she picked.
>what did she see in them
Anon let's list the fucking facts
>Ainz's clothes are probably worth more than the Kingdom combined
>literally their foot soldiers are a tough match for 5 treasures Gazef and can destroy the Kingdom more or less on its own
>Demiurge is batshit insane intelligent, he probably has like 70 INT, and he says his master is even MORE intelligent
>Demiurge is willing to work with her as long as she proves useful instead of just raping her dumb bimbo ass like he could if he wanted
>Demiurge's offer is not going to come again if she refuses
>she's a psychopath and only cares about advancing her own interests
>Aqua is a GMPC
Proof? You don't have any. Aqua is not a metaphysical being in the events of Konosuba.
Sasuga Renner, right? She's a pretty well-written smart character. In fact Maruyama's writing in other parts aside he's really good at doing the whole "I'm going to drop a tiny fucking hint here but not in depth, so when I reveal the plot point you'll say OMIGOD HE FORESHADOWED THIS when I actually just left myself a basic guideline"
>At the time I just assumed she was currying favor with the people
Oh that's part of it. But then some horrible thing is going to happen and the orphans are going to "die" or "Disappear" and someone like Demi will be blamed.
Hell, she could even get her boy toy some bonus points for trying to stop said catastrophy.
You know for all the "Renner is so beautiful" dialogue, Renner kind of looks like shit compared to even the girl right across from her.
For real though, what would she be? I imagine she'll go for Angel or Ghost or something. AoG very pointedly lacks either of these (besides Victim I guess but then they can go for Fallen Angel).
Go on Secret Club or the OL MEGA.
Sky wasn't the one translating v10 and v11.
Overlord is the gayest.
Seriously it's weird. It has so much gay art. Can't figure out why. Then again most of the guys are sexy.
Yeah, I'm comparing the ones I have right now to the Nigel and Nigel/Kiri releases to see which versions I have. There are between a half dozen to a dozen of each volume available on the site I use.
Strong male characters. Strong cast overall, honestly.
It's simple, no one can resist the bone. It doesn't matter what you preferences are or what sort of creature you are, if you are from nazarick you shall lust for the bone.
>yfw this is part of the settings
Because Climb already thinks of her as an angel. If she turns into a LITERAL angel it'd be even better for him.
As far as ghost she could claim someone killed her but she came back because she didn't want to leave her or something.
Yeah, is that the site you use? Are there more versions up now? When I downloaded it all there was was the Reddit translation and Nigel's.
You mean /a/?
>Are there more versions up now
Someone re-organized the shit out of it a little back. I've been getting them from the same site the whole time, but it wasn't like this a month ago.
>Kazuma, Kumoko, Ainz and Subaru will never star in a crossover
>It's something as goofy as the four of them playing uno or something, trying to outretard the other and having a fun time
except Subaru who's still mentally damaged from Rem, with Ainz accidentally keikaku-ing and getting Subaru to REEEE hard enough it does 1HP damage to the lich.
How could a literal failure ever be best girl? Only Ainz's eternal patience and benevolence prevented every servant of Nazarick including herself from racing to see who could kill her first.
Isn't she literally the only character in Nazarick that Ainz' has been "very disappointed" in?
Seeing those two pictures, knowing full well how sadistic she is makes that one scene with Ainz at one badly placed insult to turn her into a crying mess. Oh god that scene was pure sex.
I want Narberal to insult and humiliate me while she ravages my body forcing me inside her again and again and again.
Please remember to go back to /co/ when you finish your tendies.
My thought when I read Ainz was loaded with p2w crap, but considering he's been thrown in such unfortunate circumstances with no prior notice, it's a good thing he was a loose wallet fag, otherwise he'd be in much deeper shit by now, if not already dead/mind controlled by some crappy side-character.
>“Lupusregina Beta! I am thoroughly disappointed in you!!”
>Lupusregina was not the only one who flinched at this. Nabe and Sixth were trembling too, and the Eight Edge Assassins on the ceiling seemed to have froze up as well.
Re-reading this always me feel a bit of empathy for Lupusregina. You can feel her heart breaking through this and the subsequent lines. Especially considering how kind Ainz was just earlier in the day, which Sixth also saw.
He hasn't actually *needed* them to accomplish anything yet, so far he's just used them for keikaku style points and so he could 1v1 me bro Chair out of sentimentality and pride.
I don't understand Overlord.
Is Ainz a fucking human person in the body of a skeleton, or is he a genuine chaotic evil sociopath now?
Does he consider the "video game" people real sentient beings, or 1's and 0's? ARE they real people or 1's and 0's?
Because so far he does some pretty fucking horrific shit for a guy whose modus operandi is finding his other friends - who would all be disgusted and terrified of him after his actions.
Take your disgusting terms back to /v/ along with you.
Ainz is still a human in "essence" but because he changed bodies the chemicals for a lack of better word are slowly corroding what little human he has, slowly becoming more Ainz and less Momonga.
>Is Ainz a fucking human person in the body of a skeleton
Yes, his new body does affect his mind though since it prevents him from feeling strong emotions for any length of time. This coupled with his position and all of the other perks and quirks of being undead are increasingly distancing him from his humanity.
>Does he consider the "video game" people real sentient beings, or 1's and 0's? ARE they real people or 1's and 0's?
He considers the denizens of Nazarick his family, like nieces and nephews. They WERE 1's and 0's but now they're real people.
Well, he's still a max lvl Overlord, the average NPC of the new world has no chance in a 1on1 with Ainz, his life would be more difficult though, so I imagine the world domination project would take much longer, rather than shortened I'd expect the series would become longer but also more boring, since Ainz is cool as he is now, the OP commander of the supreme beings who never lacks anything.
Wasn't the resurrection wand a purchased item? the one he used on the troll in the coliseum I mean.
>human person in the body of a skeleton
No, he was never a human in the body of a skeleton. Right from Volume 1 he doesn't want to go to the village and he fries a guy in his armor, bursts another's heart, and passively watches on as his DK basically saws people in half.
>real sentient beings
He considers them children, but competent children.
>ARE they real people
Well that's a pretty good question.
>who would all be disgusted and terrified of him after his actions.
I don't know about that, considering what they'd be.
>Wasn't the resurrection wand a purchased item? the one he used on the troll in the coliseum I mean.
Don't think so, it's just a normal magic item. Wands in D&D are just normal items you can make or get as drops (technically "treasure").
>he fries a guy in his armor, bursts another's heart, and
>passively watches on as his DK basically saws people in half.
He still hadn't figured out what was going on. That was standard game logic. Be more upset over greedy companies making games that dehumanize people.
>He still hadn't figured out what was going on.
No anon, he did that as a test, and specifically said "wow I don't feel shit from killing someone, guess I ain't human after all". He looks at the mirror and isn't scared of a fucking skeleton looking back at him. He had no intention of helping actual people dying in a village (and yes he did see them as people, he just didn't care) because "like what the fuck am I getting back from this", etc.
>who would all be disgusted and terrified of him after his actions.
We have very little idea of what Satoru Suzuki was like beyond being an MMO addict. We do read Ainz often complaining of feeling like a human spirit lingering in a skeletal body.
There's a significantly high chance his personality was drastically affected by moving to New Australia. His -500 karma rating might have even corrupted him a bit, perhaps it tried to balance somehow with whatever real life karma Satoru had.
He's the remains of a human conscience with an eternal body, and drastically different goals and situations in life now.
We disagree on what "remains" means then. I was referring to items like being fond of kids. There's also his latent collector's love, something a natural born Undead would be unlikely to have. He's definitely more Overlord than human at this point, but that little bit of Satoru is definitely clinging on there in his own ways.
>There's also his latent collector's love, something a natural born Undead would be unlikely to have
The problem with that is that this is less of a conscience and more of just his personality. I'm honestly going to guess that even his "I'm fond of kids" shit is less about geniunely thinking it's too henious and more him just generally being fond of kids as part of his personality.
>World banishment WCI
>Giving Yunyun friends
That's quite dastardly of you. Trapping Yunyun with some hapless person for a long enough period of time, and forcing them to become friends? Sasuga, Ainz-sama.
Wiki says this:
>This World Item has the ability to banish a guild from any World. It erects a seal around the World for a undefined amount of time, preventing access. Only those that possess a World Item are immune to its restrictions.
Time to go check the LN.
Shitty wiki. You were quite correct.
>「Ouroboros」, which had an even greater scope than 「Five Elemental Restriction」, was able to request the Game Developer Company to change a part of the game itself.
Well, if any WCI could do it, it would indeed be Ouroboros.
Yes, volume 4.
>“The enemy used Ouroboros to stop us from entering the ‘World’ the mine was situated in. They probably used this chance to search the vicinity and seize the mine. When the seal was undone, we went in only to find that the mine had been conquered.”
The other description for the item was from volume 3.
Albedo is hot as fuck but that's pretty much it, she needs more development and more character to actually be good
Also her wife act is incredibly fucking obnoxious.
I disagree with your fucking idea.
It should be like this.
GOD >Angels/Devils>the genuine white blood>>>>>>>colored races
especially white heroes are stronger than black eyes lol
I'm mostly just curious when, or if, her anti-Ainz (in name only) and anti-SB bit is going to be caught. She even continues to call him Momonga when she gets into passionate throes. It's not likely she'll specifically betray him, but I'm really curious as to what she's cooking.
The weird thing about Overlord is that the art is great. It's very, very epic fantasy. Like, at Kinokuyia I picked up the first volume and went "Holy shit, this looks like Dark Souls the anime."
The actual plot is less impressive.
This, she's currently 50% boring supercompetent aide and 50% squealing Ainz fangirl. She's awful flat for being such a supposedly important character, Demi and Aura are similarly thin considering how often they're used.
The plot is fine, it's just very different from what it presents itself as. It looks like a crazy epic fantasy battle seinen but all of the actual conflict is social, political, and internal.
>MMO with a massive variety of player races and tons of unique classes
I don't care how stupid I sound, I seriously thought about what kind of character I would build if I played Yggdrasil
>Bug warrior with a preference for spear weapons who has a troupe of NPCs that help him fight villains across the land
The one thing Renner cares about is getting off on climb idolizing her. Whatever she turns into it will either;
Be something he can idolize
Be something that can take human form so she can keep it a secret
Doppel, angel, succubus, or something along those lines is what I'm guessing.
Oh shit. Here I've been thinking she'd have to be a succubus or something this whole time, but damn. If she became an angel, the fucking chapter would go for like 30 pages with Climb sperging out.
Yeah I'm a new GM so I just went by the CR.
I also nerfed it fairly heavily since it looked pretty bullshit but with a speed of 15ft I figured they'd be okay.
As well as some heavy THIS SHIT IS DANGEROUS omens I threw at them.
There's a clue in the item she got. What kind of race would have its race change item be some kind of sealed mystical box? Course that might just be a normal box from nazarick with the item inside but the way they talk about it makes me think it's the item itself.
I think I recall Ainz specifically mentioning he has spares of the race change item for angel somewhere.
New players accustomed to movies and videogames tend to assume that warnings only exist to make them feel more badass when they ignore them and succeed. Once they've gotten their dicks caught in the rat trap a few times they'll brighten up.
If my memory isn't wrong Rubedo is Albedo's litle sister, isn't she? And she not yet make appearance
But who the hell is Lastborn? I don't recall that name in the LN, or I just too dumb so that i overlook that name? I think i just dumb
Btw in what vol that Lastborn hinted from??
>But who the hell is Lastborn?
The Lastborn of the Pleadies aka #7 aka the Last Level 100 aka The Cherry Blossom Guardian.
Volume 4 when talking about ruling the Lizards, it's a feather of some sort.
I was really odd which is why it stood out to me. I think he might have asked best bug if he needed them for his lizards, but I think he mentioned it earlier as well. Or I'm just crazy.
>Players could change their character races in YGGDRASIL, but that did not imply that one could freely change race. Some requirements had to be met for the change, and the changes were irreversible.
>Part of the requirements were items. Someone who wanted to become an Elder Lich would need a [Book of the Dead]. Someone who wanted to become an Imp would need a [Fallen Seed]. The [Angel Wing] item which Ainz mentioned was used for becoming an Angel.
He doesn't say he has any but we can assume there's some in the vault somewhere.
The feathers of angels of Principality or higher are actually harmful. The feather of an ophanim or higher can permanently blind you just by seeing it. Seeing the actual face of a Seraphim would kill you instantly and with 0 chance for resurrection because your soul explodes.
He probably has a billion of every item ever.
>He probably has a billion of every item ever.
They definitely have a high quantity, but it's a quantity that they (as of this time) don't know if they can replace. Renner receiving one is definitely interesting.
Just imagine even a rumor of such a thing getting out to the general public. Imagine adventurers wanting to become demihuman or something in order to get massive stat ups.
I'm from the Empire. I've heard tales of the Theocracy murdering the citizens every day, and bathing in the blood of infants. Please quit trying to indoctrinate our country with your propaganda.
>Someone's mistaking angels for yahweh.
I ain't though. Seraphim make you explode into holy fire if you look at them when they're not covering up with their thousand-eye wings.
Heh, different games uses different system, going simply by numbers is not a good way to see what character is stronger.
For all we know Kazuma luck is already near the max limit of that world, if you were to translate his stats to Yggdrasil his luck could be even higher than Ainz, and I dont remember Yggdrasil actually having defense against item stealing skills.
And its never a good thing to mix worlds with different systems, Albedo is a very powerful tank in the world of Yggdrasil, but she would die in seconds in a game like ragnarok online exactly because her high vitality makes her a prime target for assassin cross character with slotted icepick.
>I dont remember Yggdrasil actually having defense against item stealing skills.
Ygg has actual level 100 thieves whose gimmick is stealing the shit right off your opponents.
Albedo actually depends on her bullshit DEF stats for the most part so that wouldn't work.
The biggest problem is that AoG is full of Epic-level D&D3.5 / PF players, which functionally means that most characters in any normal fantasy are simply not going to cut it.
>Albedo actually depends on her bullshit DEF stats for the most part so that wouldn't work.
It depends if she is fighting a sinx from before or after renewal, a sinx before renewal would crit her to death since crits pre renewal would ignore 100% of all physical defense, post renewal rune knights or royal guard would use +15 brocca to ignore her defense and clash spiral her to death.
If she fights a sinx with slotted ice pick and a samurai ghost card she dies in two seconds, all her defense is ignored and her vitality will make her take even more damage.
The players of yggdrasil could win a war against your average ragnarok guild, but the top guilds full of godly/mvp cards are out of their reach, D&D system is too stiff to handle the bullshit you can find in ragnarok.