>kills hundreds of innocent people, including children, during his unethical science experiments
>tries to destroy Konoha at least twice
>kills the 4th Kazekage and the 3rd Hokage
>he ends up greeting Hinata and Naruto on their wedding in a video
>he gets to casually stroll around Konoha while thinking about ramen
Has any other character ever gotten away with so much shit as Orochimaru did?
He's probably one of the more fascinating shounen villains in recent history. His character arc is so fucking weird.
this one certainly places high in the ranking
Obito actually got Pain to destroy the leaf village, killed multiple comrades and god knows how many others, and began Ninja Instrumentality/Ninja Third Impact, and all people had to say was "damn bro it sucks you were the masked guy, but you're actually pretty cool lol I hope you get to see Rin in heaven"
At least the anime gave an explanation unlike the manga.
They tried killing him multiple times, fucker allways came back one way or the other.
Eventually they figured they´d just keep an eye on him and make a truce with him.
It helped that he did his part in stopping the ninja apocalypse.
Itachi pulled him out of Sasuke's curse mark and sealed him in a jar.
Then another fragment of him got pulled out of Anko's curse mark by Sasuke which is his current form that survived to get away with everything.
I don't care what anyone says. I do t accept anything past Juanito as canon because you can tell Kishi was clearly phoning it in after that and just wanted to end the manga despite his editors forcing him to go on.
There's a difference between:
>dangerous anti-hero/anti-villain we keep under surveillance but with a certain degree of freedom, who we will call to help us when shit gets too real
>crazy ninja murderscientist with almost zero morals we let to freely roam the land and its cities, the only one watching over him is a guy he could easily overpower if he decides he doesn't like being observed anymore
weren't all the curse marks powered by that one imprisoned guy who Sasuke freed in order to include him in his squad along with the water guy and the glasses girl?
why the fuck would orochimaru be able to resurrect himself from them?
Probably something along the lines that injecting his own chakra into Sasuke and Anko is basically leaving a part of himself hitching a ride on their necks. A variation of Kushina and Minato's chakra basically being their actual selves taking up residence in Naruto's stomach.
>tried to destroy what was left of humanity
>suppose to be a hero
>suppose to be the messiah
>He's a good guy now?
It's just that he was never REALLY a bad guy, he's just chaotic and wants immortality. Everything he did was for science and immortality. He didn't do stuff because he was evil, he did it because he wanted a body that could last forever.
Since he's allowed to run experiments now, he doesn't need to do anything evil because he has all the resources he needs.
He would have compete with Hinata if he was still alive
>Kabuto is the director of an orphanage
>Orichimaru has fucking Yamato following him when I'm pretty sure that everyone in the ninja world are aware that Yamato is a fucking joke
Is naruto some sort of satire about japan's political system?
Sure, except Voldemort's horcrux bullshit wasn't original.
It's like everyone forgets the man made of demons.
Wasn't there some dumb nigger in here baiting for (You)s by saying Sakura was one of the physically strongest in the series by the end?
Man if only I had screencapped the threads where everyone was laughing at cuckura for standing by Nardo/Saucegay and thinking she was in remotely the same league.
The best thing that came out of Shippuden aside from Pain's arc was bunny goddess
Would Neji cuck Hinata if he was still alive?
>he ends up greeting Hinata and Naruto on their wedding in a video
>implying he married her
Nice delusions. Himawari and Boruto are what accidental babies look like. Naruto is chained for the rest of his life
Surprise, surprise. You figured out that Naruto is a shit manga.
Seriously, this is complete dumb assery at this point.
>I did all this horrible stuff! But I'm so sorry. See, I even helped in the final battle!
>Okay you are forgiven
>I'm still a selfish asshole who doesn't like being ruled by the Soul King, but I helped out in the final battle against Juha Bach. Did you forgive me?
>Thanks for helping out...NOW GET BACK IN MUKEN BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL EVIL!
>Oh, yeah, that's right. Touche.
You mean Juubi, there is no "Juubito"
It's OK, I understand what you mean. Ten Tails Jinjuuriki Madara would've been a perfect final villian, with Gai defeating him and Naruto and Sasuke's fight for title of Hokage following afterwards. You could easily nix Kaguya from the plot and it'd still work out just fine.
Reminder that Naruto thought that Obito was the coolest guy
Because Obito thought that he wanted to be Hokage, just like Naruto! And he thought Naruto was cool!
Therefore, you can be the coolest guy if you think Naruto is the coolest guy even if you are Obito!
No wonder retards self insert into Naruto, they have absolutely no self awareness. Naruto is worse than SAO in some ways.
>kills his foster parents
>makes a whole orphanage kill each other
>makes people commit suicide
>turns people into serial killers
>makes kids jump off a roof
>destroys a village
>gets saved by the man who tried to kill him
He literally almost fucked up an entire continent
>Shitty manga failed
> still had a better ending than Naruto
>didn't use 2 animated movies, a 10 chapter gaiden and create a sequel series that NOBODY WANTED
>Still has better writing than Kishimoto had for 10 years.
Yeah, sure. Keep lying there dude.
>Aizen is literally the strongest being alive at the end of the series
>Is meekly inserted back to his extra-dimensional prison
Part of me wants to believe that Aizen used KS one last time and swapped out Momo in his place.
Except Ichigo cut him down in Part 1 and cut down both Soul Kings in Part 2. Plus he would still have to deal with Ichibe Hyosube.
So no, I don't believe Aizen would have used Kyoka Suigetsu because there are at least 2 people fully able to fight who have not been hit by Kyoka Suigetsu.
And yet Kishimoto had to use a shit ton of other products to justify the ridiculous final, Final, FINAL bosses. Yeah, your ending was MUCH worse because it required a shit ton of other products. I don't mind light novels (Araki used them in Part 4 of JJBA), but Kishimoto took things way too far. He's a hack
More like crossdresser/New-Half
Ichibe is severely weakened by the end of the series and Ichigo is missing 2/3s of his power.
Aizen could have just used KS to fuck off somewhere else, not necessarily to take over. Besides the Soul King was already dead, which raises way too many questions, so what goal does Aizen even have at that point other than being King himself? Why would he want to if he learned the reality of it?
1. Ichibie clearly would have regained his strength by then
2. Aizen had part of his arm cut off and stabbed through the chest by Juha Bach's Reio power. That's not exactly powerful either
3. Didn't Tsukashima reverse that stuff on Ichigo?
Aizen was injured yes. But the nigger is literally immortal and has instant regen thanks to the Hogyouku. Probably had a dip in power immediately after the fight like with Mugetsu but just like then it starts coming back right after. And no one in Soul Society would be able to recover in time to stop him. I also severely doubt Ichibe would ever leave the Royal Realm to deal with Aizen anyway, as he didn't bother to do so in the first place.
Tsukishima fixed Ichigo's Bankai. That was it. Yhwach sucked out his Hollow and his Quincy powers.
The only true contestant I see at the end would be Kazui who literally deleted Yhwach with a touch.
The Soul King was the only thing holding all the realms together (SS, the real world, HM) without him they all crash together and pretty much destroy everything. He was so important he was, presumably, imprisoned in a crystal to keep the balance.
The position seems more akin to Atlas holding the world up rather than being a God who looks down on the world.
I think they're just afraid of how much damage he could do if they pissed him off and he went to war with them again. Better to keep him complacent and let him have his little experiments that violate basic human rights that don't really exist in ninja world.
This was good, and if his crimes were not as bad as they were it would actually hold up as an explanation.
But his crimes were that bad. Even just at the very start before he tried to assasinate the hokage and destroy the entire village when they first discovered his underground lab it was full of people and children that had gone missing that he had kidnapped and performed medical experiments upon until they died.
The people in the village would never allow him to not be punished, they would turn against the government if he was allowed to walk around free. He's a sadistic serial killer.
But most of the Soul Reapers in Bleach like Mayuri, Yamamoto, Unohana, and Urahara weren't nice people. The only difference between them and Aizen is that they submit to the Soul King. Aizen's real crime is trying to replace the Soul King will himself as something of equal force to shape the universe in his image.
No his genetics just provided the research material.
Think of the curse marks like a wireless hd back up that constantly backs up his mind.
After Sasuke resurrected him he used a special mask to summon the shinigami to free the kage's souls to edo tensei and his arms. This of coarse required him to sudoku him self since his body mirrored the shinigami's movement of slicing it's belly open. Before his body died he transferred into a zetsu body which granted him immortality.
fuck the latest episodes
All it reminds me of is my crippling loneliness while everyone around me is finding happy lives with their beloved
I forgot to ad he also had a test tube baby who is the 3rd member of Naruto's son and Sasuke's daughter's team who is lead by Kohonohamru the one whose grandfather he murdered.
Honestly this is the best they can do, Orochimaru got away with everything mostly because he's so hard to contain and punish. Yamamoto and whatever backup he has is not enough to hold him down.
holy shit, nobody really gives any fucks at all, do they?
Oh, fuck that. Fuck that right in the ear. I know Naruto isn't known for it's realism but holy shit, it's just that easy, right? Unspeakably horrible deeds flung out left and right like flowers annnnnd... virtually nothing.
says the Uchiha fucking shit
jk Tobirama is Uchihafucker himself
That's blatantly incorrect though. Sakura is using a jutsu to release chakra at the point of contact.
You're thinking of Tsunade who is the one who is an actual physical beast able to tear motherfuckers limb from limb as a natural part of her structure.
>Sakura is using a jutsu to release chakra at the point of contact.
that's for her Sakura Impact technique.
By the end of the series, she might have learned Tsunade's super-strenght at last.
That said, I don't remember Naruto showing greater physical might than Sakura, ever.
>assasination of the hidden leaf
I have never watched naruto but he does sound like /ourguy/.
>the only one watching over him is a guy he could easily overpower if he decides he doesn't like being observed anymore
No way, Yamato was retardedly powerful in the war.
Orochimaru doesn't even know the dragon sennin mode as far as we've seen.
Next episode Shikamaru will actually bang Temari.
His greatest strength feat was done in Sage Mode and that was him throwing the Rhino in the Pain Arc.
Holy shit man I never thought of it like that, but you're totally right.
There's also him tossing Kurama. Although that was done in his mindscape and he was in Sage Mode at the time.
Except Orochimaru isn't sorry. He's only ever expressed regret one time over his decisions, and that's when he and Tsunade were talking about Jiraiya and Hiruzen. Even then he wasn't sorry, just contemplative. He gets to stay around because either Sasuke or Naruto could btfo him these days, and he actually cooperates with them now.
It's not justice, but he's not really a threat because of the living ninja gods that walk among the people.
i think the fact that Neji got killed traumatized her
Neither the good guys were as nice and forgiving in Bleach as they were in Naruto, and unlike in Naruto where you had the Kages and the two Ninja Jesuses to stop Orochimaru if he went too rogue, in Bleach Aizen ended up as the most powerful being alive. Him willingly going back to the chair is more believable than Soul Society imprisoning against his will.
Which is still pretty shit, with even more dumb assery than Naruto. It's easier if you just think of the ending as Aizen fucking with everyone's minds via Kyoka Suigetsu.
Neither Sakura nor Tsunade have true physical strength, they use chakra to augment their attacks and I think it's only supposed to work like a burst when they punch or kick something. It probably wouldn't work as well if it was something that required prolonged strength like lifting something heavy or arm wrestling, although I can't remember whether that was portrayed consistently or not and Kishimoto himself might have forgotten or retconned the mechanics anyway.
At any rate this is far too much thought to be putting into analyzing a joke in a comic. Sakura being stronk has been a punchline ever since she got her power-up in early part 2.
Chair-bound Aizen was actually stronger than he was before the time-skip. He did a complete Kurohitsugi without chant while still bound, something he only managed to do before in his Butterfly form.
Huh, maybe that's why he chose to go to Muken again. To become stronger maybe?
Tsunade has complete super-strength. It's basically "reinforce your muscle with chakra" at the highest level, needing both ultra-precise chakra control and perfect anatomical and medical knowledge.
Sakura's original Megaton Punches were actually just discharging chakra on the impact point(as a way to mimic Tsunade's brute force), but it's reasonable to believe she mastered Tsunade's technique
Aizen's ending monologue implied pretty heavily that he regretted becoming immortal and effectively losing his humanity, and his ultimate goal was to kill the soul king anyway, which Ywach did. And then Ywach died too.
So Konoha are the Baddies?
But there were many clans in the Naruto universe which got obliterated.
IIRC the novelization of the Last had a line about Neji's death making her become less serious and enjoy life more. It's unfortunate we never got to see their relationship, since she seemed more similar to him than Hinata.
Speaking of people who got away with everything, Hiruzen's teammates are still alive and well as far as we know despite also being complicit in the massacre. I wonder if Sasuke ever bothered to hit them up or if he forgot about them like everyone else.
I know Danzo is the Himmler of Naruto but still are Konoha the baddies?
The ninja village system as a whole could be considered the baddies, you know with the constant clan genocide, causing untold destruction and death in minor countries, the entire concept of ANBU and jinchuuriki mutually assured destruction.
I think kishi.like just a terrible writer. He probably couldn't think of any original powers to give him so he just recycled shit from other good characters.
I mean if he actually intended for him to originally have created those techniques then why isn't it ever mentioned before?
Why didn't the 2nd or 1st mention it during the invasion of konoha?
Why didn't anyone ever mention it when the 4th used his signature jutsu?
I mean even the 4ths nickname isn't the second flash. It's yellow flash. Why doesn't the 2nd hokage have a nickname like that?
It's just bad and lazy writing
Remember when Orochimaru saved the entire planet by making Sasuke stop being a fucking buffoon?
At some point, good deeds have to be weighed in with the bad deeds.
He's basically on a parole of sorts anyway. Sasuke and Naruto both can easily kill him for good if he tries anything else.
How could a monster like him create the cutest kid ever?
Tobirama's original gimmick was being so good at water jutsu he didn't need a source, but that stopped being remarkable by early part 2. I guess he needed to find some other way to make him remarkable.
I'm psyched to check out Boruto. I largely gave up on the series during the pain arc/fillers. But I recently came back and am catching up/caught up. Watching old fillers and movies. I can piece it together. I think this was overall a stellar series. I just needed a break.
At first when I heard about Boruto I thought it was stupid to have an annoying brat whos not as good as Naruto, but after watching the movie and checking out the manga, I'm convinced he will be a good character, because he's not at all like Naruto.
He's a dirty cheater and he's WAY more intellegent than his father.I miss village content too. Everything being god level is too outrageous. I wanna see more low/mid level feats. More Taijutsu and Kenjutsu. I hate Genjutsu and Dojutsu shit, so I hope they lay off those.
Boruto is certainly taking a unique turn with its story, at least from what we've seen so far. The art will likely look a lot better by the time we revisit the timeskip.
I thought this episode was going to be the wedding. Really bad title. It ended up being Iruka focused, and I'm very happy about that. Iruka is one of my favorite characters.
I also love Danzo, but I hope they don't make him some joke character, he was incredible during Kakashi's backstory.
For the same reason they never told us Tayuya was Senju/Uchiha.
>Redhead with odd chakra
Why was Naruto blonde? All the others had red hair. Even Nagato, so it isn't like it's a female only trait.
Naruto is blonde because Minato was blonde. Kushina and the Uzumaki clan didn't exist until midway through part 2. Karin being an Uzumaki was probably a retcon too considering she and the rest of Taka weren't supposed to be around that long in the story.
that namikaze seed
Minato is so fucking cool holy shit.
Accelerator does. Isn't a huge part of his character trying to atone for it by protecting mini-Mikasa and the clones? Also the clones are sentient and share memories and feelings so he'll never live it down.
If anybody needed a filler fanservice arc it was that nigger.
Never even got to see his childhood under Jiraiya, he knows space-time ninjutsu he probably invented himself with no hax genetics.
it may not be obvious from the first appearance alone, but it just gets more blatantly farcical as the double episode goes along.
I guess they decided is was so stupid that Orochimaru could make an appearance at the wedding, they should just go with it and show him fucking around in Konoha for the month preceding it.
>he knows space-time ninjutsu he probably invented himself with no hax genetics.
got retconned into just another broken jutsu that Tobirama invented himself before getting snuffed by cloud niggers.
Is it just me or does young Minato dress almost identically to Boruto?
>Honestly this is the best they can do
Just summon itachi and have him use that technique again to re-educate him, he will gladly help you remove the curse marks and submit to capital punishment.
What do you know about real life, friend?
>genocide a lot of people because you want to compare dick sizes with Russians and you wanted unconditional surrender (though in fact it was still conditional, because even after all firebombings of civilian targets Elevens wouldn't give up, so in the end you had to promise you wouldn't fuck with emperor)
>put some false dilemma bullshit in history books
>profit (WE WUZ GOOD BOYS AND SHIET)
How exactly are they going to summon Itachi? I suppose Kabuto is still available even if the prospect of bringing him back isn't exactly thrilling for him..
Although given how much he did I'm wondering why they didn't summon Itachi and do that right off the bat than risk him playing nice.
>The people in the village would never allow him to not be punished
The village people don't know shit, or do you think they had a press conference about the horrific torture missing kids went through for no reason?
>Although given how much he did I'm wondering why they didn't summon Itachi and do that right off the bat than risk him playing nice.
Because it's a retarded shounen story? Even if killing him wouldn't fit with the theme, just making sure he really sees the wrongness of his acts and isn't fooling everyone just to run away and restart his bloody experiments (maybe with a side of a few wars) is something any sane person would do.
I'm not sure why Kishimoto even bothered toying with the idea of Naruto being the "chosen one" or ninja-jesus, his goal was always to become Hokage and that's how it should have stayed. Saving the world should have just been one more step on the way to that goal.
I wonder if she does the same thing for her kids.
It's because at the time, because of the huge Sasuke/Itachi/Obito thing going on, Naruto was losing focus as the main character and Kishimoto needed to put him back in the spotlight. Pretty lousy way to do so, though.
I'm currently watching Naruto Shipuuden Kai and I'm just wondering if I'll miss any actually decent filler?
I actually kinda like the cute slice of lifey sort of filler.
Anyone have any suggestions of episodes I should watch?
Possibly, but he made the poor decision to focus a series around demons and not magic ninjas.
Kishi joined the industry solely for money while his brother did it because he loved it. Kishi lucked out when his manga hit mainstream and then people started noticing the similarities between Naruto and 666 Satan, Seishi was considered the rip off and got flack for it by readers.
What likely happened is Seishi was interested in the industry first and as brothers typically do shared his ideas with Masashi. When they later both went into the industry Masashi simply took Seishi's ideas and won the popularity contest.
Because Masashi was less talented, he simply couldn't maintain the aspects he nabbed from his brother and that is probably why Naruto dipped in quality fairly quickly.
As for Satan 666, first impressions are everything and it simply will never get the momentum is probably deserved.
You know it's actually amazing how much stronger the current Kage are than the previous one.
I mean imagine say undead Madara was like a 6.
All 5 old Kage could only get him to go serious briefly meaning they're like a 1 at best.
Then remember he then got a massive powerup and was weaker than Naruto. Then he got another powerup.
Then the Ayylmao's are apparently equal or greater than him each.
And it takes only 4 Kages to beat 1.
Shit each Kage probably isn't that much weaker than undead Madara.
I'm watching cut to manga and was wondering the same thing. I read the six tails arc was decent so I watched that but it wasn't that good. Other than that I've heard Kakashi ANBU is good and I've read wildly different opinions about Itachi Shinden and Jiraiya Shinobi Handbook
The only thing I cared about in Itachi Shinden was Itachi's gf and they didn't even animate her death properly, so in my opinion it's not worth watching unless you really like Itachi.
If the previous generation were 1s then the current generation are probably 2s, maybe Gaara became a 3 during the time between The Last and Boruto.
And the ayys were only difficult (Momo in particular) because they could absorb chakra. Kinshiki was apparently fast as fuck though and in the movie knocked down the Shinju which only So6P Naruto could do.
>behead a guy
>eat his eyes and heart
>a responding officer literally fucking killed himself because of ptsd
>spend 9 years in a free 4 star hotel
>get absolute discharge
This anime is fucking retarded.
Still that would put Kinshiki pure Taijitsu wise as higher than the Madara who fought Guy since Naruto had him outclassed hand to hand, and this dude can give adult Sasuke trouble.
For 4 Kage to fight him and not die speaks volumes. I'd say they might all be 3s.
Granted they'd still be massively outclassed since Naruto and Sasuke are probably 12+
>Has any other character ever gotten away with so much shit as Orochimaru did?
This was Edo Madara you were talking about. Juubi Madara fought Gai and he's like a 9.
But yeah, they're definitely more durable. Unless Momo just didn't give a shit about killing them since he was aiming for Kurama the entire time.
>yfw because Neji's ded Tenten became a christmas cake
>the bushy-brow line reproduces by assimilation
It's probably not actually yamato but a wood clone. So if Orochimaru ditches the clone or kills it then the real yamato will know immediately and let kakashi know that the deal is off and they should kill him.
That's true. But if the manga is anything to go by Momo really didn't care about killing them after eating Kinshiki. He took them out one at a time and then focused on the bigger target of nardo and sauce.
What's stopping that Orochimaru from being a snake clone? But I get the general idea, if he so much flares even a bit of chakara without permission it's go time and generally speaking he's better off playing it nice with his current deal so why the hell not.
He's still out there crippling some poor kid with his methods.I don't think he came close to even being moderately inconvenienced the whole manga let alone being punished.
>Sakura is physically strong as fuck, the problem is that amounts to nothing because in Naruto the strongest fighters rely on eye-tricks and ninjutsu.
Fucking scrubs. Everyone knows eye-tricks and ninjutsu is 2nd ass tier shit used by "elites" or "special" fucktards.
Only real technique you need is talk-no-jutsu. Literally 100% success rate and works regardless of how strong your enemy is.
He was a brilliant scientist, and probably gave (part of) his research to Konoha, as well as his promise to keep working for them, in exchange for his life.
He at least had something to give in return if he was spared, unlike certain war criminal orphanage manager.
More like budding: an adult bushy-brow guy in a green suit begets a small bushy-brow kid in a green suit. Probably Guy-sensei forgot about Rock Lee and didn't recognize him as his spawn at first.
Also, why the fuck did Sasuke never got another arm? And while we are at it, why didn't they give Guy another leg too?
>Also, why the fuck did Sasuke never got another arm?
He wanted to leave town before they had time to do the same procedure to him that they were going to do to naruto. Additionally, he probably considers it part of his repentance.
>And while we are at it, why didn't they give Guy another leg too?
They only had so much of the hashirama goo left to work with. Naruto was first in line for being the leaf's god emperor. But Guy would never fight again even with a new leg. Chakra network totally shredded, every bone in his body broken.
Have people seriously forgot about this damn thing? Just put the snake in the jar. I'm sure its way better than what Failtachi did.
You think he gave her the wood if ya know what I mean?
>If Jiraiya had been a better friend he may not have ended up brutally torturing innocent civilian children for fun and profit.
Yeah, it was Jiraiya's fault he was a little cracked.
I honestly felt like Kishi was going to use these to seal Madara. I mean it was such a random pannel, he just spits up the most powerful weapons in the series near Tenten's group. It's like he just had a change of mind and went, "Nope, aliens".
The anime says he thinks he's just being kept around as insurance in case they need him to solve some weird problem that Naruto can't fix by punching. Though the question is never conclusively answered
Which after knowing that he's been killing and experimenting on people isn't that bad of a reaction. You can't just save everybody with words, some people are just fucked up and trying to will destroy your life. Honestly, it took a fucking world war, getting a talk no jutsu from his dead brother, reviving four hokages for a chat and Naruto's arm to bring Sasuke back, otherwise he'd still be a wandering murderous edgelord.
Jiraya went on with his life, which was probably the most healthy thing to do in that situation.
>Jiraya went on with his life, which was probably the most healthy thing to do in that situation.
Which is funny because aside from being a successful author, Jiraiya felt he was a failure in every other respect. If persisting instead of moving on would have led to his life turning out more like Naruto's, I'm sure he would have done so.
What are you even on about? Orochimaru is a full on sociopath, he doesn't feel any remorse for anything he did and never will. Sasuke was just high on his sharingan edge, when he came down he did feel a little sorry; if only to Naruto.
...do you really think that wasting his time trying to bring Orochimaru back (which probably would have been impossible in circumstances other than after helping stop the end of the world, because at least Sasuke hadn't been kidnapping and killing people in horrible ways even before leaving) would have made Jiraya's life better? Things only worked out for Naruto because Sasuke's reasons for being an edgelord were very specific, and because of what was happening in the world at the time. Had Naruto been in Jiraya's place, he'd still be looking for Orochimaru. Chances are he wouldn't even be Hokage
>Ino ended up a lonely cake
She's one of the hottest girls in the village so that would never happen.
Tenten is the plain jane here.
Sai ending up with Ino is the only bullshit pairing ending.
> Sai ending up with Ino is the only bullshit pairing ending.
What about Chouji and Karui. "Hey Chouji, remember that time I beat the shit out of the kid who ended up being the reincarnation of a demigod and saved the entire world? And I was like about to kill him because he wouldn't give up his friend who was literally an international terrorist? Good times."
He also could have used shadow clones, which he also invented, to scout the area and buy time to escape. He also could have summoned his dead brother and just fucking ran a train on them all.
He literally tells Minato he's doing it wrong when they meet during the final battle.
Still bullshit. At least Sai and Ino knew each other, and Sai had even once called Ino beautiful (although that was soon after Naruto told him that you gotta tell girls the opposite of what you mean, who knows. Maybe Ino was like "Wanna get married?" and Sai thought "Alright here we go. 'Yes'." and then he was suddenly in a suit wondering where it all went wrong.
I suspect Karui and Ino had to settle down fast with all of their friends getting married and ended up with less than stellar results.
They probably get together every week for 'all you can drink and bitch about your life' girl nights.
Which one is ninja Moses? Sasuke?
Not that it matters because the first thing an immortal scientist with hideouts ALL OVER THE WORLD would do is figure out how to bypass his ONE weakness, which is getting trapped in another dimension. Once he figures out how to dimension hop, that's it. It's over. Even Sasuke couldn't put him down for good.
It's been said but he's hardly even malicious, everything he did was just so he could be immortal. It's far easier to just give him the resources he wants and allow him to fuck off. It's not like he actually desires world domination or anything, he simply wants to learn ALL possible jutsu and techniques.
Sai hit way above his weight with landing Ino desu. Then again, Ino probably only went with him because he was like two-fifths Sasuke and she realised she wouldn't get the real thing.
I wonder if she bought him red Sharingan contacts and tells him to stab her and call her annoying during sex.
Sasuke's the only one of those two that didn't die and his list of crimes is honestly pretty casual.
>attack Killer B
>kills a cloud-nin
>kills some samurai
>interrupts kage summit
>kills Danzo (but literally no one liked him)
That's probably every thing he did the general public would know of, Team 7 doesn't seem like they'd tell everyone he threatened to kill the five kages.
> his autism levels were unparalleled.
Then again, you'd also be fucked if you had a best friend who you thought of as a brother, who was then killed by your boss after you refused to do it (because you didn't know he had ninja cancer and was going to die anyway), and had all your emotions wiped, and didn't even have a real name beyond what your boss gave you, and then was given a seal that would burn out your tongue if you even tried to talk about it, and then sent on missions that even some Jounin would be like "Haha yeah I'm not going to do that hey".
>still had a better ending than Naruto
It did not
>didn't use 2 animated movies, a 10 chapter gaiden and create a sequel series that NOBODY WANTED
It couldn't get a full animated series, where would it get even one movie?
>Still has better writing than Kishimoto had for 10 years.
They're about even
Betraying your Village is like the biggest no-no in Naruto. Tsunade didn't list him as a missing-nin right away because she's a lil' bitch and wanted to /ss/ Naruto, but there's a reason why missing-nin are almost universally hated and usually won't be taken in by another Village unless they have something REALLY important to trade.
Because the board is about anime and manga, which is what Naruto is, and if people only want to talk about it once-off rather than all the time, this is the board to do it on. If they want to continue after the thread dies or gets nuked, they can come to /nsunsg/
Kishimoto explicitly stated that he died from starvation and malnutrition. Not to mention that even if he didn't, the immortality would wear off because he couldn't kill people for Jashin, and he'd then die anyway.
You're forgetting the difference in skill. Madara was a ninja legend master of all forms of combat, Kaguya showed that the alien clan relied on overwhelming force to win. Once you minimize that gap they aren't worth shit.
>why the fuck did Sasuke never got another arm?
He's still Sasuke and therefore still emo. Do remember that he has absolutely no need for anyone to make him a prosthetic since the Rinnegan give him the ability to make fully functional cybernetics.
Sai was a better version of Sasuke. Cuter for starters, and a better person. Not to say he stays in the village and takes care of his family. Ino dodged a bullet and ended marrying one of the best options around.
>since the Rinnegan give him the ability to make fully functional cybernetics.
Does sauske know this? He didn't see pain do it, and he didn't have Madara's big book of six paths jutsu like obito and pain had access to
>meanwhile Neji the one who was right since the very beginning is rotting 6 feet under
>Rock Lee's hard work got him outclassed by every natural talented character in the show
>Gai is a fucking cripple
this show man, what a ride
In this series, you immediately gain 100% control over any ability you receive, without any sort of training or practice. See: Kakashi immediately forming a Full Body: Susano'o with literally no training.
He's the copy ninja
But also sauske needed a little while to figure out even the rinnegan powers he was aware existed (gravity manipulation and chakra absorption) much less the more esoteric powers which he doesn't even know exist
Orochimaru recovered from his body and soul being sealed by the Totsuka Sword before. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if Orochimaru has basically become a Lich and in a surprise reveal by a Big Bad in Boruto, it's revealed that *gasp* Orochimaru doesn't have a soul, and it's stored safely somewhere else.
Right, but regardless the fact of the matter is Danzo was basically the only person in Konoha who thought that way and everyone hated him already. The actual hokage never named him a traitor and the following hokage are 200% in his corner.
The moral of the story is you need two things to succeed in Naruto; personal power and nepotism.
We already know how his immortality works. He can move his soul between bodies and also has little backup souls stored in various people in case the main soul gets fucked somehow
funny you say that considering Obama released hundreds of murderers and drug dealers(coke-level drugs), and afterward a few of them ended up murdering/stealing after their pardons.
>Orochimaru recovered from his body and soul being sealed by the Totsuka Sword before.
Only his soul was sealed, his body was killed by Sauce long before, and he didn't recover from it. He just keeps a backup file of himself in every curse mark so a clone can be created and even then he can't do it himself someone has to do it for him.
To be fair, the missing-nin thing works as long as the village can enforce it, and it's by far the most banal of Sauce's "crimes".
Also he's a walking Ninja god, who the fuck is gonna stop him anyway other than the other Ninja god?
> he can't do it himself someone has to do it for him.
Good thing that he seems to still be mates with both Karin and Suigetsu, and neither of them seem to be under observation, even though Karin is CLEARLY still living in Orochimaru hideouts and performing SOME sort of science.
Since she's thinking that Shikamaru is asking her to spend a night at some fancy-pants Kumogakure hotel and hot springs, but he's actually asking if she thinks it'll be a good present for Naruto and Hinata, because yes, Shikamaru IS literally as retarded as Naruto when it comes to women.
I miss the Temari who berated a crying Shikamaru for being a pussy.