Now that the dust has settled, was it worth the wait?
>>153459272
I didn't watch it and don't intend to, because VN is better.
>>153459272
If you're a fan of Fate, then yes. But if you haven't read the VN, then no.
>>153459337
Simply this.
It was fantastic. Everything I could have wanted from an adaptation save the h scenes.
>>153459272
Cringe if anything. And boy did I hate the whole:
YOU ARE NOT NORMAL THINKING LIKE A SHOUNEN HERO.
Well no shit, you are not normal acting like a classic tsundere, nor is the servant master thing normal. Retarded shit to try to give the bland MC depth. 4/10, action wasn´t even that pretty.
>>153459272
but was the dust, the last stardust?
>>153459272
No, because ufotable are trash.
It was excellent. Content like the last episode and first Casta no Masta made it a must-watch for fans of the original, frankly.
Don't mind me, just posting best girlGod her voice is so fucking perfect
>>153459337
The VN is less shit but still shit though
Maybe its because I had already read the VN, but I felt like the anime dragged too much with all the exposition and nothing happens moments. Like it would have benefited if some things where cut instead of making a 1:1 adaptation from the source material, but like I said, maybe that's just me for having read the novel beforehand.
>>153459272
I have watched this recently, and it was hilariously bad. All the possibly good fights were ruined, and UBW route is all about cool fights and Archer/Shiro infodump (wich was made poorly too, but no suprises here). Berserker was made a complete joke, Archer's plan made no sense even in the original VN, Kuzuki/Caster last scene was like ufotable didn't have enough screen time and rushed it as much as they could. But instead of original cool scenes they wasted time on stupid fillers (like that horrible last episode, what were they thinking).
It was almost as terrible expirience as watching Deen's UBW movie, though for the completely different reasons. If it was "the best 2016 anime" i wonder how fucking bad were all the others.
>>153459272
I thought it was near perfect. The only flaws come from the nature of the source material. Probably my favorite anime.
>>153459272
Enjoyed it overall, but Shirou annoyed the fuck out of me.
>>153459272
the F/GO anime will be better
Disappointing compared to F/Z, but still good. The 2nd coeur had pacing problems probably due to the underlying VN infodumps it was adapting. Also, what the fuck happened to everyone's nose?
>>153459272
First season was great, mixed opinions about second season because ufotable can't do a good adaptation throughout the end (the same happened with fate zero)
Episode 23 though was simply perfect.
>>153460121
That one hour special was fucking awful tho
>watch a ginger fucking wreck gilgamesh
hell yeah motherfucker
>>153459272
No. It was pretty underwhelming and I still think they simply should've went with another route.
>>153460305
As someone who didn't play the VN.
Most of the first season was alright, but nothing too great.
Season 2 was dumb, but fun as fuck. I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would.
Which was ep 23? The one that makes Rin tremendous waifubait?
>>153460445
absolutely disgusting
>>153460593
Gil vs Shirou and the ending of the war.
>>153459272
season 1 was amazing 2nd season was ok not that great
>>153460681
That's 24.
>>153459272
It was pretty good. I am satisfied with it but the Archer v. Shero fight needed less flashbacks and talking which Deen funnily enough did better. I'm just hoping they don't fuck up the last couple of days for HF, it has some of my favorite scenes from the VN. All I want is a Last Episode adaptation.
>>153459272
Wait, people waited for this? But they have the superior Deen QUALITY version.I hope they do a decent job with wormslut route. I need my best servant Medusa in top form.
>WAAAH MY JAPANESE NOVEL ABOUT TEENAGERS HAVING SEX IS BETTER THAN AAA PRODUCTION WHICH CUTS ALL THAT OUT
>WAAAHHHH WHY ISNT THERE ANY POINTLESS DIALOGUE
>WAAAHHH WHY DIDNT THEY INCLUDE HENTAI FUCKING RUINED
commit kys
>>153460445
I can't wait to see hassan, he was a good servant.
>>153459272
I have read all three routes of the VN years ago. I will never understand why Unlimited Blade Works is loved by so many. I found it the most sophomoric of the routes. Shirou was intolerable in that route and Rin was severely misused.
>>153460316
Best boy Cu finally got his chance to shine though. I'd say that alone made it worth it.
>>153461550
*Its the only route where Shirou actually arrives into a healthy and mature conclusion(unlike fate and HF where he arrives at opposite extremes).
* Most badass Shirou with the best lines.
* It also contains the most realistic and dynamic relationship with Rin, which progresses naturally and does not feel as forced as with Saber nor as on-the-surface as with Sakura. Lots of priceless moments of Shirou teasing Rin and Rin teasing Shirou and relationship progression that makes you understand why they care about each other and fit each other.
* It has the focus on the best girl on the whole VN, Rin, with her natural and interesting character growth .
* It is the most "gray morality" route out of all three. There's no "good" answer and both villains and heroes are shown to be flawed people with not that clear of a roles(Caster is one of the most interesting villains in FSN) and the central conflict of the route has nothing to do with "good and evil" but simply about perception of yourself. Hell, even Gilgamesh has understandable and clearly outlines motives in UBW.
* Shinji gets a fitting end. I always found him just getting killed off cheap. Having to live with yourself with the realization at what you did and what you experienced is a fitting price for him. And Sakura gets to have her old brother, before all the nonsense started, back. So Shinji BOTH gets a fitting punishment for his behavior AND becomes a better person from it.
* Perfect ending. Fate ending was great(and HF true felt like an asspull), but UBW ending felt very fulfilling and fitting as Rin and Shirou face the unknown future together, having become better people than they started out as.
>>153459272
It sucked. it's one of like 6 or so anime that i actually hate.
>>153461688
>I want to protect the people I love is an extreme conclusion
I agree with everything else but nigger what?
>>153461688
I've seen this pasta argument a million times and it is completely subjective. Not to mention it assumes that the reader cares at all about Shirou. I never really liked the guy. At least in Fate and HF he was tolerable. In UBW he went turbo autist with his moronic view of Justice.
Not to mention, it seems like UBWfags can't seem to argue their point without constantly shitting on the other two heroines. I actually thought through all of UBW that there was better chemistry between Archer Shirou than present Shirou. Rin always seemed like the type a girl that was way out of Shirou's league. My opinion, Saber has the best chemistry with Shirou. They are a lot in common and share a lot of the same naive views. Sakura is damaged goods. Rin is better off pursuing her career as a mage than being reduced to a waifu.
>It is the most "gray morality" route out of all three.
Again, this can be argued for all three routes. I don't see UBW's ending as anymore or less grey than the other three. Though I think if there is one route that leans more towards 'bad/evil' it's HF. That's the route where Shirou is at his most selfish.
>Hell, even Gilgamesh has understandable and clearly outlines motives in UBW.
I agree here.
>So Shinji BOTH gets a fitting punishment for his behavior AND becomes a better person from it.
Could care less, Shinji is a piece of trash and deserves whatever he gets in all the routes.
>and HF true felt like an asspull
Again, completely subjective. It isn't any less of an asspull than Shirou beating Gil without even being a servant (technically). Hell, HF has less asspulls in that it makes sense for Shirou to be able to fight with some of the servants due to having Archer's physical arm grafted on his body.
>>153461410
>All I want is a Sparks Liner High adaptation
ftfy
>>153462066
I feel like seeing sparks liner high animated would be extremely underwhelming compared to how cool the scene was in the VN. Same with the nine lives bladeworks scene. Maybe I'm just too pessimistic though
>>153463039
Yeah I get what you mean.
Even the scene where Shirou cuts off Gilgamesh's arm felt drawn out in the anime compared to the VN where it happened out of nowhere and completely blew me away.
Fate is one of my biggest guilty pleasures.
>>153463157
Maybe because in the VN they were actually fighting. In the anime Shirou just flied around bleach-style while Gil made lazerbeams with the same noname-phantasm.
>Yuki Kajiura is doing the OST for Heaven's feel
>>153461964
You forgot
>even if they don't deserve to be saved
Here, you have it.
I wish everyone on /a/ read this shit VN so that we could stop pretending that's good, since It would stop having worth for /a/ in the moment that it became mainstream.
>>153463434
What the hell happened to her? I feel like I used to hear her music in at least one or two things every year but lately she's been off the map.
>>153463555
I don't know what's worse about this post, the blatant newfaggotry, the wasted trips, or the implication that Fate didn't become mainstream years ago
>>153463646
>I don't know what's worse about this post
>Fate didn't become mainstream years ago
Let me help you then, the worst thing is that you can't interpret a simple sentence. Fate is extremely popular, but not the VN, the anime is, which is why we use the VN to feel superior about ourselves, talking down to secondary plebs and mainstream fans who only watched ufotable's pedestrian adaptation.
Apply yourself, anon. I was a good guy this time, but you won't always have someone to hold your hand like this.
>>153463603
> feel like I used to hear her music in at least one or two things every year
It must be your impression. She didn't worked in that many projects, but everything she did was God-tier.
>>153463825
I interpreted it just fine. The VN is mainstream, there are normie anime YouTubers uploading playthroughs of it. We talk down to secondaries because they pretense knowledge about the franchise they don't have and make themselves look like idiots. Take this thread that just came up >>153463381
>>153459272
I thought it was pretty awful. Not like it's really ufotable's fault though. The route's story is complete nonsensical shit. ufotable needs to stop adapting video game/nasu garbage, all their talent is going to waste.
>>153464052
Not an argument.
>>153464052
>Not like it's really ufotable's fault though
Bait
>>153464124
Fai that you?
>>153461410
>>153462066
>All I want is a Mind of Steel adaptation
Man, your guys' keyboards must be really messed up.
>>153459272
Should have been Heaven's Feel.
>>153459714
>but I felt like the anime dragged too much with all the exposition and nothing happens moments.
This is true. I remember being hype as fuck for Shiro/Archer inside the reality marble in the VN. When you watch the anime, it's a LOT of talking and not a lot of action.
Can we all agree that DEEN adaptation has the best OST?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgjc9HdTZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF8I-nc5Hog
>>153464666
Is that you, devil?
>>153464770
It wasn't very good thanks to ufotable's inability to show you an action scene without infodumping everything.
However I forgive them becuase they gave us the epilogue we deserved, and generally all the made-up scenes were usually great
>Giving Ilya firepower
>Taiga going to Kerry's grave
>Gil and Shinji invading the castle
>Castah no Mastah
>>153463646
In what timeline are VNs mainstream?
>>153464666
They did make the single best opening out of any fate related series:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V47Q8ir79eE
>>153459272
Much better than that overrated edgefest Fate/Zero. Better animation, better OST, and they took the "I'll protect everyone" trope and tore it to pieces. I loved how the very sounen-esque MC was treated like he was an insane PTSD victim the whole time, and he couldn't even win the last fight despite having muh power of friendship.
Also, Tohsaka was raised from annoying loli to hot waifu, father Kotomine did something good for once.
>>153459272
Ufotable did all wrong. They should did:
1) Prologue of FSN (OVA 45 min)
2) Fate route (TV anime 13 episodes)
3) UBW route (8 OVA 40 min)
4) HF route (Film Triology 120 min)5) Last Episode
And then Fate/Zero (25 episodes)
What do you think?
>>153464840
But you posted their worst opening.
Here's the best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy7Q77ZD_ME
>>153464802
>He has not seen Bob Ross, beat the devil out of it.
>>153464432
That pic is right on the money about Tamamo though.
>>153464884
Fuck that boring ass shit, op 2 was nice and catchy.
>>153464874
>4) HF route (Film Triology 120 min)
The cooking scenes ALONE would take that!Not a bad setup. Not sure if 8 OVAs would be enough for UBW, and I stand by my belief that if Fate ever gets animated Nasu should just do what he said he would and rewrite it. Other than that it would be work.
Something I've always wondered: Did the zerofags back in 2011 know of the DEEN anime beforehand, or was F/Z literally their first exposure to anything made by Nasu?
>>153464923
Are you going to tell me that Saber Venus was a good idea?
>>153464948
>Boring
Found the pleb.
This OP sounds too generic for my taste, any of the Zero's or UBW openings are better. Disillusion is above all of them though.
>>153464956
I would like to see someone merge all three routes into one story.
>>153465026
Wasn't that what Deen tried to do?
>>153465026Hollow/Ataraxia anime when?
>>153459272
It was trash. Only Fate/Zero's worth anything.
>inb4 secondareeeeeeeeee
>>153465084
This. Kiritsugu was a cool and dark adult with a deep philosophy, while Shirou was just an immature teenager. Zero was made for the seinen audience after all.
>>153464967
I watched a bit of the DEEN anime but quickly dropped it because it was trash.
>>153464666
the OST is fantastic. I really love fate/zero's because it's hype as shit but Kenji Kawai's has a wider range of great tracks and floods my brain with nostalgia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCCs9DNEJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXw0lL5-vA
>>153464851
>Better OST
Other than F/Z not having an EMIYA theme you're just baiting
>>153464948
>>153464884
>>153465012
>not Disillusion 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu7n2IDDx_Q
>>153465003
This, Nero was okay in Extra but the Nerofagging in Extella was cancerous.
>>153465003
It makes sense when you consider imperial privilege grants her access to skills like divination. EX rank even allows her to change her own body when using IP skills. Venus was just an extension of a personal skil she had since Extra.
>>153459272
I'm currently reading UBW and watching the anime at the same time. The anime feels very stream lined in my opinion. There's a lot less of Shirou reiterating the same thought over and over from slightly different angles.
>>153465117
>implying UBW wasn't seinen
>>153465012
I was disappointed that Disillusion didn't get a remix version for the UBW OP.
>>153460593
>As someone who didn't play the VN.
>Most of the first season was alright, but nothing too great.
>Season 2 was dumb, but fun as fuck. I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would.
I thought the pretty much the same, just wish we got more Caster/Kuzuki.
Its probably worth saying that near the end I found myself hoping that Gilgamesh would win.
>>153465026
Heavens Feel with Rin as the love interest should be the true route. And the true continuation of F/Z
>>153464948
Disillusion is catchy
>>153464884
The ED is good too
>>153465637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc6G2yozzSg
>>153464948
Whenever I think of Fate, Disillusion is the first thing that pops in my head. Like for Tsukihime, Super Affection is the first thing I think of.
>>153465855
>Like for Tsukihime, Super Affection is the first thing I think of.
Then you are a secondary
>>153465764
>>153465326
>>not Disillusion 2010
No, Disillusion is a shit song, and it is in no way better than op 2.
>>153466470
Here's your (You), kid.
Saber > Sakura > shit > Rin
>>153466575
This
>>153466575
Rin>Sakura>Saber
>>153466575
Illya > Saber > shit > nail fungus > Rin > Sakura
>>153464666
>OST by Kenji Kawai
Well, of course.
>>153466575
>>153466803
>>153466894
where is Luvia in all of this?
>>153465326
I actually don't like Night of Fate (Unwei no Yoru). I don't think it really fits the series.
>>153467048
*Unmei no Yoru
>>153466575Mitsuzuri> Rin=Sakura=Saber=Illya
>>153466924
>Luvia
Fucking who?
>>153461478
She had one job
>>153466924
irrelevant>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Luvia
>>153467121
The original was better.
>>153467139
>you spin my head right round, right round
>>153467121
Oh, shit, forgot about Mitsuzuri.tfw no tomboy route
>>153467139
FFUCKIGN KUZUKI.
Why must Rider suffer. Gets completely BTFO by Saiba in Fate. Is killed off faster than one of Caster's skelly mobs in UBW.
>>153467125
Talking shit about best tits in fate.
>>153465060
Fucking this, when is Hollow Ataraxia finally getting a fucking anime
Fuck Nasu we're even getting Apocrypha anime and got Grand/shit anime but not this
>>153467322
Well, Castah is the best girl after all
Rider is pretty up there too though
>>153467372
I'd love to see Hollow Atraxia get adapted and Tsukihime get properly adapted sometime in the future. Well, HA will very likely be adapted. Tsukihime probably never ever, but I want to believe. At least the manga based on Tsukihime was pretty damn good.
>>153467462
Medea is a cute and worth protecting.
>>153467677
She is top bullying material
Hey, finally hopped on the boat and read through Fate/Stay Night. Pretty top tier.
Are UBW and Heaven's Feel just retellings with variations? Is it really worth reading through all of it?
>>153468052
They are completely different stories
Heaven't Feel is well worth it in my opinion
>>153468098
Aight, thanks for the help mang
>>153467121
Route when?
>>153468299
Never, also she was the prototype design for Medusa.
>>153467628
>Well, HA will very likely be adapted
I don't know why you're so optimistic about this. It's been so many years since it came out
>>153468299So, did Shini really rape her? Or was it someone else after he dumped her in the back alley?
>>153468361
Shinji "Crazy rape eyes" Matou? I don't think so.
>>153468361
>I don't know why you're so optimistic about this. It's been so many years since it came out
Because if Apocrypha and Extra are getting one I don't see why not. Maybe when Ufotable is done with HF.
It was a good adaptation of a terrible vn (implying there are good ones). So yeah, it was pretty meh.
>yfw you'll soon get dragon dick animated
>>153469264
I hope he dies the minute he's introduced.
>>153469376
Well then I have news for you, anon!He smashes his way out and lives on
>>153469264
Is Sumanai good in Apocrypha or does he job like F/sn Gil?
>>153469520
>mini God Hand
Pretty Good.
Also a total fucking bro.
>>153469520
Dies in the first volume, gives heart over to Homunculus who replaces him for the rest of the story.
>>153469444
I read Apoc. I just hope they'll change the story.Please, for the love of Nasu.
>>153464124
Fai sorry but you have to go back.
>>153469984
based on the fact that the author oversees the adaptation, I doubt it.
>>153459272
That's not what I was waiting for.
>>153459272
Yes. This is unironically the only good anime adaptation to come from the IP and what people should point to when they say "Watch Fate".
Everything else, even the source material fluctuates between being mediocre at best and embarassing trash.
>>153471438
>even the source material fluctuates between being mediocre at best and embarassing trash
Everything has it's ups and downs. Doesn't mean it can't be entertaining.
>>153461688
>*Its the only route where Shirou actually arrives into a healthy and mature conclusion(unlike fate and HF where he arrives at opposite extremes).
Shirou wasn't healthy at the end of UBW, it said he reaches a healthy conclusion down the line, thanks to being with Rin. If we look at HF True, he has every bit of a chance to both love himself and be fulfilled as UBW. And by what we now of him wanting to become a civil servant in Hollow, he very much can. He doesn't need to be a world hopping vigilante to be happy, much like people seem to think.
>* It also contains the most realistic and dynamic relationship with Rin, which progresses naturally and does not feel as forced as with Saber nor as on-the-surface as with Sakura. Lots of priceless moments of Shirou teasing Rin and Rin teasing Shirou and relationship progression that makes you understand why they care about each other and fit each other.
Also, all the romances were valid. You can't write off Sakura because she was opaquely affectionate and didn't pussyfoot about it like Rin had for years. Sakura became a good friend shortly after the high jump, then family, then started to like Shirou romantically. She didn't hold some ephemeral crush in her heart for years from one thing and then never converse with the boy for nearly their whole school lives until the plot mandated she be a love interest. So Sakura is bar none, the more natural of the three.
>>153459272
Not enough Sakura, but then again, there is never enough Sakura, not even in HF.
>>153464124
>worst girl Rhino made worst route with eternal manchild Shirou
Color me surprised.
>>153468361
I'm quite sure no one actually raped her. She just got her energy sucked out by Rider.
>>153476981
If I remember correctly, they mentioned her clothes were ripped apart too
>>153461688
of course a rinfag would like UBW the best.
>>153475269
>So Sakura is bar none, the more natural of the three.
I agree. Like you said, they were like family before turning into lovers.
>>153467125
Rin's future mistress.
>>153465789
LiSA is fucking awful.
Tanaka's version is more mystical, mysterious and it has that melancholic feeling to it.
LiSA's version is just generic jpop
>>153468052
If you enjoyed the first route, UBW and HF are going to blow you away.
>>153459272
Good adaptation but very bad directing.
Too much robotic talking and flashy shit makes secondaries bored and I dont blame them.
>>153459337
VNfags need to go
>>153476022
Dumb wormposter.
>>153459272
Yes!
Unironically very good and I was looking forward to every Saturday.
>>153459272
Yes, it's a good adaptation. I wished it wasn't as respectful towards the shitty source material though.
watched fate/zero over the weekend
holy shit does it put fate stay/night to shame
all the characters are insanely more likeable (to be fair though, I haven't read heavens feel yet)
I legit teared up during the final battle between Gilgamesh and Alexander
>>153482664
I know right my man, Broskander was truly /ourguy/, conquering and vidya hahahahahaha!
>>153465012
>>153465637
>>153477410
The real patrician This Illusion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enFbt9FgPus