>please pirate our products :^)

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>buying anime

>>153458658
I mean I don't really buy it, but what's the point of a ban? Isn't any money, good money? Is gaining money a bad thing?

That's what fujos get

>>153458687
Capitalism negates innovation and promotes stagnation.

>>153458687
>>153458600
Yeah I don't get what the logic is here
Shouldn't they be happy people are wanting to buy the product instead of pirating it? If they want to push a western version, why not just change the covers or such and try to push people into buying both for dat collector feel?

>>153458707
You got it upside down. Just need to crack a few eggs as a sacrifice is all

>>153458687
I can only think of weak reasons: to sell the right of overseas at a higher price.
In any cases, this will not work at all, there are simply many people travelling to and back from Japan, and also not to mention that so many forwarder services.

>>153458687
The gain more money licensing products to the west than selling BDs.

I must say that this is a retarded action though, since they would gain more money by licensing this shit AND selling the BDs.

>>153458728
Licensing? Whoever has the English rights probably wants to push only their version? Wasn't there something similar with a game a few years ago?

>>153458600
I received a similar e-mail too. What the fuck is wrong with Japan? How fucking retarded are they to think that's a good way to make money?

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Oh damn and I was gonna start collecting Osomatsu-san blu rays too. Oh well their loss I guess. This business decision confuses me. Like, I'm sure gaijin purchases doesn't give them that much of an increase, but it definitely doesn't hurt them, right? What's the point?

>>153458781
>Whoever has the English rights probably wants to push only their version?
Yeah, but it's so stupid to think that the rest of the western world would just accept the shitty English version in this day and age.

>>153458600
>YoI and Osomatsu-san
Fujos are jealous their husbandos are being tainted by gaijin hands.

>>153458600
Oh, man, so glad my order of the YoI soundtrack already shipped.

>>153458781
It makes no sense whatsoever since the Japanese version is always more expensive than the overseas one.

>>153458600
>only affecting fujoshit
Good.

>>153458818
I hope this doesn't affect the vita game coming out.I actually want to play that

>>153458815
Japanese.
Pros:
Creative Race
Modern but still maintain the traditional way

Cons:
Not open-minded (very closed and paranoid)
Very conservative approach
Sometimes make a crazy decision

>>153458895
YOI maybe, but Osomatsu-san has plenty of non fujo fans, and Avex distributes more than just Fujo anime.

is it possible to find out why such a decision was made?

>>153458759
Prove it.

>>153458957
I have read a business plan titled 'The Growth Strategy 2020,' which was issued by Avex Group Holdings in 2016, and in the plan, what Avex emphasises includes anime business and overseas expansion (especially, into North America). CEO Matsuura Masato also emphasises those things in the 'message from CEO' article on the Avex website.
It might be related to Avex Pictures' preventing exporting of products.

>>153458895
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=13014
Amagi Brilliant Park (TV) : Production
Assassination Classroom (TV) : Production
Denki-Gai (TV) : Production
DRAMAtical Murder (TV) : Production
Eiga Yo-kai Watch: Tanjō no Himitsu da Nyan! (movie) : Production
Fairy Tail (TV 2/2014) : Music Production
Gekijō-ban PriPara Mi~nna Atsumare! Prism Tours (movie) : Distributor, Production, Promotion
Gekijōban PriPara: Mi~nna de Kagayake! Kirarin Star Live (movie) : Distributor, Publicity
Hanayamata (TV) : Production
KING OF PRISM by PrettyRhythm (movie) : Distributor
Mr. Osomatsu (TV) : Music Production
Noragami Aragoto (TV) : Music Production, Production
Ōshitsu Kyōshi Heine (TV) : Music Production
Re:␣Hamatora (TV) : Production
Samurai Warriors (TV) : Production
Shin Gekijō-ban Initial D Legend 1 -Kakusei- (movie) : Production
Shin Gekijō-ban Initial D Legend 2 -Tōsō- (movie) : Production
Tribe Cool Crew (TV) : Production
Trinity Seven (TV) : Production
Trinity Seven: Eternal Library & Alchemic Girl (movie) : Music Production
When Supernatural Battles Became Commonplace (TV) : Production
All of those

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>>153458600
>>153458778
This is such ass-backwards thinking, what the fuck would spur a company to do this?

>>153458600
This sucks.

Possible bright lining, though...foreigners will need to go through Japanese forwarding services to get these BDs now. Since Oricon only counts sales to Japan addresses, that means that more foreign sales will be counted by Oricon.

...not that this is going to make much of a difference since I don't think there are THAT many foreigners buying BDs, and jumping through these hoops will make some give up.

>>153458891
It makes perfect sense when you people are still going to buy the expensive one instead of the local one.
And I would assume the deal would include vice versa, that the west too will restrict exports to japan

>>153459005
>any of those
>good

>>153458815
Maybe they think some things are more important than making money, like keeping their intellectual property out of the hands of filthy gaijin.

>>153458957
A gaijin kicked the CEO's dog.

>>153458995
Wouldn't they make more money keeping imports open AND making overseas products. Who the fuck is going to purchase an overpriced anime Blu-ray overseas when they can buy it with no shipping in NA? then showe that aren't marketed here can still be bought overseas

>>153458952
>>153459005
Okay, I was wrong. But it doesn't seem like they license anything good anyway.

>>153458818
I don't know about Osomatsu-san but Yuri could be popular enough that they can't keep up with demand and would rather serve Japanese customers first and foremost.

>>153459005
Nothing of value was lost.

>>153458957
They're probably working out a more direct partnership with an international retailer and intend to give them exclusive distribution rights outside of Japan.

>>153458827
I think it's less accepting the English version, and making them buy it through the licensors. They get a bigger cut, and the consumer has to go out of their way to push the audio button until they get the moonspeak audio track. The way they see it, no one really loses

Except weeabs who'll probably lose their shit at the "printed in the USA" tag on the case

>>153459067
>Who the fuck is going to purchase an overpriced anime Blu-ray overseas when they can buy it with no shipping in NA?
All the fans who received the email and are complaining right now?

>>153458924
>>153458815
Yamato damashii>gaijin bux

>>153458728
It's even worse because if someone licenses it in the west they are just going to get a flat fee and nothing more from whatever sales made there, no point in denying people the ability to buy directly from Japan.
They should be restricting imports from the west to Japan since BDs are cheaper in the west and they get nothing from those.
Can only guess it's "baka gaijin".

>Waito piggu don't buy!

Wow, nips hate gaijins so much that they're willing to do this?

>>153458995
If they think prohibiting the blu-ray export will make fan-sub version harder to appear in the internet, they will be sad to see the result. But in other view, it seems that they want to make their own overseas distribution rather than depending on crunchyrolls, etc.

>>153459048

In the age of the internets, that's like trying to keep water in a bucket made of razor wire.

>>153459005
it's fucking nothing

>>153459112
OK but there's literally no reason to ban importing. Those things aren't readily being marketed in North America and some people don't want to wait till 2020 to buy the Blu-raysame of anime theyou enjoy. Not to mention some of these things might not be marketed in North America because they aren't as popular as they are in Japan.

But isn't it good for the rest of us who aren't fujos? There's regular fans, and then there's straight-up pandering to fujos.

That's pretty assholeish considering they are in no way the sole producer for most of those but this: >>153459077

>>153458707
Get back the gulag, comrade.

>>153459005
http://avex-pictures.co.jp/lineup/animation
I think this is a more comprehensive list

>>153459005

Only watched amagipark and failtail. Rest not even on my backlog.

>>153459292
Again, nothing of value was lost

>>153458600
Just buy from a third person or ebay you faggot.

>>153459259
They are still going to pander to fujos, just not fat Western tumblrina fujos.

If you think this is their corporate policy and not licensors like Crunchy pushing them you're fucking retarded.

>>153459292
Ha, total shit list-

>WUG

Fuck, I was going to import something soon actually.

I can wait to pirate, though.

What if they literally just hate foreigners and don't want them consuming their content? Seems like a fairly Japanese thing to do.

>>153458995
even if they were trying to expand into a specific region this seems retarded, this ban will also affect other regions (other Asian countries)

>>153459473
tin-hat conspiracy theorist has emerged
>Crunchyroll's competition is DVD/blu-ray import
Crunchyroll's advantage is sametime-broadcast, that's the main selling point and also low yearly subscription cost,

>>153459620
Hey Miles.

>>153458600
Why are fujos so bloody dumb, jesus fucking christ.

Avec is a small player in anime publishing, but a major plwyer in anime music/songs.
I agree that they are planning to play in overseas market by themselves.
And fails.

>>153460194
Unless they want to overprice their stuff, still makes no sense.

>>153458600
>completely missing the USA market with YOI
Why does Japanese keep on doing this?

While I don't really import anime, and the only anime I like from that list is Osomatsu-san and Noragami, This is such a stupid idea. What kind of a retarded business decision is this?

>>153460194
oh yea the OP mentioned CDs too didn't it
I know a few stores here that imports CDs, I wonder if they'll get affected

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>>153458600
>people buy anime

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>>153458898
I don't think they distribute games do they? Shit sucks if they do though. Although I never would have been able to play it myself, don't understand enough Japanese to play a VN, and Osomatsu san isn't popular enough in the west to warrant a localization (especially on the dying NA Vita) I just take comfort in the fact that it's an OTOMATE game, so it'll probably be shit anyways.

I would've pirated any of those anyway, who the fuck imports those rip-off expensive Japanese disks?

>>153458898
It won't.

>>153461389
Mostly people wanting to support series they enjoy

>>153461462
>supporting Yuri on ice
People need to get some taste.

>>153459077
>>153459042
>Hanayamata
>not good
/a/ sure has a fallen.

>>153459005
Nothing of value lost.

FILTHY GAIJINS GO HOME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>153459396
>just not fat Western tumblrina fujos
That's what I meant by it being good. I should've been more specific.

>>153459292
>Galaxy Express 999 BD
I didnt even know that was thing. Fuck this shit

>>153459620
Fuck off Miles

>>153459620
Holy fuck how pathetic are you Miles, fuck off from this board and go rip off anime studios in Japan or something.

>>153461491
again there are other things than Yuri on Ice on that list.

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>complain that people download animu
>prevent them from buying your animu

>>153458600
Wagakki Band is under them, I'm fuming

>>153462208
Black magic

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>>153458600
>I can't buy faggots on ice anymore
How am I gonna cope with this.

>>153462441
I couldn't care less about YOI. Avex pictures publishes other things besides Fujoshit.

>>153461330
>I'm too poor to buy my AOTS

>>153463082
>not being willing to throw out ridiculous sums for overpriced products means you're poor
Why don't you burn some dollar notes, bro? Are you a poorfag?

>>153463082
>poorfag
I want /v/ to leave.

>>153459005
I was actually planning to buy the Trinity Seven movie soundtrack if it was as good as the one for S1, so this is annoying.
I guess Japan doesn't want my money.

>>153463082
Good goy

>>153459620
fuck off todd howard of anime
crunchyroll is pure shitto

pirate is bestu

>>153463130
I like collecting stuff. I'm not burning money. Also if you're seriously shitting on people buying the stuff you like you're retarded because without them it wouldn't even exist

>>153462115
>we lost a million sales we could never make
>it's all the gaijins' fault

>>153463418
Only thing that wouldn't exist would be bad anime.

Have you tried YesAsia? They're Hong Kong based but have the Japanese versions.

Last thing I imported from them was the WUG BDs. Oh well, nothing much of value was lost I guess.

>>153463932
If they don't have a warehouse in Japan they won't even get any new stuff.

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It's getting banned because it overlapps with other companies rights to sell (stream) overseas.

>>153459292
>Shakunetsu
Please tell me someone ordered the OST before it was too late.

>>153459005
Pretty mediocre lineup.


I suppose the question is WHY. Are they licensing it to another company to sell overseas?

>>153459620
Go fuck yourself, CR shill. And if this is CR's doing, double fuck you.


I speak fluent Japanese and buy Japanese DVD releases because I don't need subtitles or a Western release, and I like having the Japanese commentary audio and other Japanese-language extras. It pisses me off that they actively want me to not buy their products.

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>pretty mediocre lineup
>nothing of value was lost
>literally nothing
How about watching the shows instead of making assumptions?

>>153465259
>DVD
Wrong year fujo

>Crunchyroll is to blame for trying to monpolize the successes of Yuri on Ice and other anime titles

Who would have guess

>>153465706
Awarding it Everything of the Year should have been a big enough hint.

>Avex issues a blanket brand export ban because of CD licensing in Asia
>the 15 people in the Anglosphere who actually buy Japanese BDs get hit as collateral damage

>>153465912
No, it's shame Japan doesn't know how to spread their successes

Avex is full of pussies

>>153465623

why would I buy BRs when they get ripped and uploaded online and I just want the extra contents that never get posted anywhere

>>153465378
But Galaxy express 999 BD

>>153466724
Because the rip quality still isn't as good as watching the BDs on a good player.
I get your point though

Time to buy Yoi via proxy. What a fucking mess

>>153464472
How can they tell such a bold-faced lie like that? All it takes is one look at production committees to know CR doesn't do jack squat for anime.

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>Yuri on Ice

oh nooooo

>>153467729
>How can they tell such a bold-faced lie like that?
ANN writers

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>>153458600
>want to support Ping Pong Girls & Wake Up Girls
>can't do it now because avex went full retard

This is their line-up by the way. Their heavy-hitters are Yuri On Ice, Osomatsu-kun and One Piece. But you have other notables like Noragami, Assassination Classroom & Muvluv SchwarzesMarken.
http://avex-pictures.co.jp/lineup/animation

>>153467797
>Muvluv SchwarzesMarken.
Shut the fuck up. Schwarzesmarken is not Muvluv. It is simply Schwarzesmarken. They even fucking say it right there on the goddamn website, how can you actually sit there and say that? Learn how to read, for all our sakes.

>>153467797
>wug and fujoshit
Nothing of value was lost

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>>153467729
They can because people buy their mediocre services and will believe what they say without a second thought.

>>153468019
Well, guess there was an update, they moved their shit to CR.

>>153465706
Crunchyroll sells BDs?

>>153468748
They get the home video rights along with the license IIRC.

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>>153458600
Was getting losing money part of your plan?

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>>153458600
as of right now it's effecting ALL media from avex, not just animu

http://aramajapan.com/news/avex-pictures-enforces-export-ban-on-blu-rays-dvd-and-cds/71087/

avex is a pretty big deal. how long before other companies start copying them :^)

>>153468966
JUST

>>153468966
>start buyfagging BDs and CDs a few months ago
>this happens
God hates me.
I'm sorry guys it's my fault

I don't get it.

>>153459020
>Oricon only counts sales to Japan addresses
Could that be the reason for this?

>>153470041
Why would that matter? This isn't going to increase the # of orders to Japanese addresses, only decrease the # to foreign addresses, so there will be no change in the Oricon sales.

>>153470086
I bet TENSO paid them so people use forwarders
That would be legit funny

>>153468966
I swear to all that is good if they cancel my SKE48 2nd album preorder (yes yes I know) I am going to flip my lid, especially since the damn thing comes out in a week. Fuck it I'll even upload their 100 dollar MV collection special box set which to my knowledge hasn't been uploaded yet. Not anime but fuck I am mad. I am trying to support things I like with my money because I have the money to spend! Never let it be said some of us didn't try.

This is literally the most retarded business decision I've ever seen.

>>153470351
If you preordered from CDJapan you should be fine. Not sure about Amazon and other sources though.

People selling things at comiket often say "please don't upload it to the internet" when they sell to gaijins. Maybe Avex just took it to next stage and assumed that they could stop piracy by banning exports.
Honestly I can't think of a single non-stupid reason for this ban.

How much money to American publishers really use through orders from Japan? Those people are most likely collectors who wont buy the stream or some dub.

>>153469290
>you would spend money on it in the first place

Either liar, stupid or just fucking retarded.

>>153470509
To be honest the west's carefree pirating is pretty ridiculous.
It's replacing physical good quality media with shit quality streams and it's going to destroy more things.

>>153470509
Wasn't there an artist complaining that the number of downloads of his work on nyaa were lost dosh?

>>153470509
What I don't get from that is that a lot of doujin artists only release in REALLY small runs that sell out and then they never republish or sell more. So how is it hurting anyone to upload scans of doujin that are never going to be made available again in the first place?

>>153470993
Hurting their ability to sell it to a publisher.

Why is this so confusing to everyone? There's only a few logical reasons for it. One, they are planning on forming their own overseas division to sell their stuff, and don't want people buying things beforehand, or are partnering with some overseas group, e.g. CR, and again want to get the most money possible out of selling the rights.

Or two, since anime rights are basically tangential to Avex, and music is their bread and butter, they are looking at the Asian market and realizing they have an issue with people importing their products, since most of these entertainment contracts are a clusterfuck in regards to licensing rights/contracts concerning overseas sales, etc. So they decided to just throw out a blanket ban, and the limited number of people importing anime BDs to the west are also affected. Granted, it's a retarded way of handling the situation, and while the export BD market may be small, there are many more people who buy CDs that will have to jump through hoops to buy what they want.

I don't really get how this would work unless it's pre-order only.

>>153470086
>This isn't going to increase the # of orders to Japanese addresses, only decrease the # to foreign addresses,

If foreigners start using proxy services (where stuff's shipped to the proxy's JP address, then from the proxy to the foreigner), the number of units sent to Japanese addresses would increase, thus adding to Oricon numbers.

But I don't know why that would cause them to ban foreign sales, since they'd get the same amount of money either way (or less if foreigners just give up and don't use a proxy, which seems likely). I can't imagine they care more about Oricon numbers than actual sales.

'Sides, I doubt that foreigners are buying BDs in large enough quantities to make much of a dent on Oricon charts, anyway.

>>153471210
The former makes sense but they literally only have two anime that would sell here.

>>153470426
I did and to its credit my order has not yet been cancelled, but you can bet I'm watching like a hawk.

>>153470509
Do they really believe only gaijins are uploading doujins on the internet?

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>>153459005
>notice could have used good series like Amagi, Denki-gai and Inou Battle as examples
>instead chooses faggots on ice and fujomatsu

>>153471541
Because gays are the ones that sold the most.

BDs themselves already cost an arm and a leg with how overpriced they are and on top of that they very rarely even have english subs. So to combat that they completely isolate the community that were dedicated enough to still buy these BDs? I have no idea what Avex is thinking since as far as I can tell there is literally no downside to exporting BDs.

Shakunetsu OST when?

>>153467921
Fuck off.

>>153471541
>Fujomatsu
>Implying that any of them are gay

You're probably a yurishitter. No surprise there.

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>>153458600

> avex hates gaijins for fucking years
> reluctantly sells music and anime overseas
> barely promotes their artists on their international youtube
> finds any excuse to geo-tag their shit
> anime streaming sites hits the US
> crunchy roll & funimation
> hulu, if you want i guess
> "good enough"
> oricon recently stops counting international sales
> "finally"
> sales figures (fantasy): losing more money to gaijins than its worth
> sales figures (reality): sales are steadily climbing
> fuck the system
> let's go full retard
> "so we're banning avex products from leaving asia because gaijins and piracy"
> immediately starts blocking orders from cd japan and amazon
> ?????
> (fantasy) profit
> (reality) that much closer to bankruptcy

>>153473885
>implying they need to be gay to be popular with fujoshits
Anon, that's what terrible fanfics and headcanons are for.

>>153458818
>Oh damn and I was gonna start collecting Osomatsu-san blu rays too
There'll be a few broadcast episodes that won't be on those, so download those CT rips.

>>153473885
>that episode where Kara accidentally penetrates Ichi
How did Pierrot get away with this?

>>153473916
Avex is #1 music company in Japan they have a lot of money coming in regardless

>>153474071

they still need to adapt to the changing world.

>>153461895
Never ever. Fuck i really want to see a 999 BD release with english subs.

>>153474148
No one cares about the changing world anymore

This is just to sell the rights to crunchyroll and other similar services

>>153458707

Communism negates agriculture and promotes starvation.

>>153475465
Communism promotes overpopulation which is the root of all the modern problems.

>>153462208
I'm extremely upset too. I was so hyped for the new album next month. Fucking hell.

>>153476335

Explosions negates overpopulation. What now, autists?

>>153477399
Bombs.

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So what now? Do we put together a kickstarter to buy a cargo ship and secretly buy up copies and ship them out? In the US they can't tell you what to do once you have physical, legitimate copies in hand because of the first sale doctrine, and it's probably save a lot on shipping fees in the long run.

>>153471389
>only have two anime
For now. You have to understand that these stuff is usually about long term gains. Again, whether it is the 'correct' course of option is another issue entirely, but they're not doing it because of only 2 of the current releases.

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>>153459005
None of those actually fucking matter that much, really. I'm more worried about their music section since I'm an Ayufag.

>>153471389
One Piece and Fairy Tail are pretty big but they also have YOI and Osomatsu which are super popular at the moment.

It's more than just fujoshit, fuckers.

>>153478798
Ok then, how about that plan of mine. I think I found a suitable ship:
http://www.workboatsinternational.com/small-gen-cargo-pallet-carrier-lpc3581.html

>>153478920
Have you ever used your brain to think before you speak? Don't answer, it's rhetorical.

>>153458734
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""x"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
don't do this. you look like an idiot when you do.

>>153478984
What, too much? Should we start with just sending shipping containers instead?

>>153475465
Don't post off-topic bullshit, friend.

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>People getting crazy about a international expansion

Avex did two offices in USA, seems that they gonna control international CD and DVD sales more closer

http://www.avex.co.jp/e_site/group/group.html

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>>153479502
Richard Blackstone worked in a lot of international labels in the past, probably he is that gave the idea of international expansion

>>153475465
>only commies can complain about capitalism
Haha.

>>153458707
>compete to provide a better product than your competitor
>negates innovation

>>153479350
Holy shit, you are either so shit at making jokes or so dumb that either way I don't even know where to retort.

>>153479699
>most things are now made in China
>better products

Welp lads.

>>153458600
Good, if they don't export or license outside of Japan then Western lawyers won't be able to make copyright claims and we can go back to the good old days where no one cared about pirating anime.

>>153479502
I hope this is what it is, but it seems retarded to announce the ban FIRST without any kind of information.

Also it seems it is only Avex Pictures and not al Avex labels, so it's likely. But this is a backwards way of doing it.

>>153480371
i think that it seems a mistake of CD Japan itself than a AVEX mistake itself...

or maybe AVEX has something planned for this week and we dont know yet...

>>153480444
It is a bit weird that CDJapan is the only real source for this, but they are a legit company and I don't think they'd lie. They probably got the information early and leaked it, not really realising the impact.

Either way it's fucking retarded, of course.

>>153479936
The import-export business is a thing.
The gray market is a thing.
Paying a cargo line to ship a container is a thing.
All of the above are perfectly legal.

I don't see what's so dumb about this. There's a demand, and there's a supply. That means there's money to be made in bringing them together. Capitalism 101.

>>153480444
>...
Fuck off

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>>153473976
Yeah I know, I have em' all downloaded. I'd just really like to collect the physical stuff too. It's kind of cool.

>>153480494
Shit is blocked on amazon too.

>>153480505
It's amazing how you can be this blind precisely because of how obvious it is. Congrats, you managed to be even more retarded than Lelouch.

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>>153480747
Choromatsu is cute. CUTE!

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>>153480819
If it's so blindingly obvious, then why not put our collective noggins and wallets together and do it? Shit's not hard. We can fill the remaining space in the container with vidyas that haven't been exported, since those are also in demand. Once it's at the port, dealing with ground shipping becomes a hell of a lot cheaper.

>>153480505
>>153480947
He's mocking you precisely because you think you're onto some groundbreaking business opportunity. There already is money being made from it. That's the damn point.

https://youtu.be/_pDTiFkXgEE
Vid related: You.

>>153480975
Yes. It's retarded that he thinks his amateur ass along with some random anons are smart enough to run something competently enough to beat the competitors who have been doing it for ages.

>>153480756
then the mistake is from Avex

>>153480975
I'm sure there is. That's why I said, "the gray market is a thing". However, I'm less interested in making money and more in getting the shit that we want, and if we pool our efforts we can accomplish that without having to deal with a middleman and no one wanting to import obscure series because they don't think they'd sell on eBay. The vidyas will just help cover the costs.
>>153481070
I've done import-export before, that time with a batch of special lab coats from China. I'm not trying to beat competitors. I'm thinking of getting together a little pet project to get our hands on some animu and mango.

>>153480947
>Shit's not hard
t. have zero idea about logistics

>>153481163
Nigger, my father does logistics for a living. I probably know a hell of a lot more about it than 99% of the people on this board.

>>153481154
The more you post, the more it becomes increasingly obvious how ignorant you are.

> import-export before, that time with a batch of special lab coats from China
wow so expert experienced much

>>153481198
Yet here you are being utterly clueless. It's hilarious.

>>153481154
>>153481198
> and if we pool our efforts we can accomplish
>we
>know a hell of a lot more about it than 99% of the people on this board
Right from those two posts alone, I can already see the crack in the plan. But no, you are the expert because your father works in logistics. You know what? Do it then, faggot. As usual, you're all talks.

>>153458815
CR and Funi sold them snake oil and they'll make peanuts with the localised BD sales.

>>153481215
>>153481266

No, I think you just don't get the idea. I'm not trying to start a business. I'm trying to start what's called a buyer's club. I sure as hell don't have the capital on my own to even buy an empty shipping container, let alone fill and ship one. Those lab coats were a small box of one particular item.

Now of course, I really didn't expect any of you to actually partake in any of this. Getting /a/ to do anything together is a task akin to herding brain-damaged gerbils. I was making a point that you're all complaining about something that you could change, but you never do and never will because you spend too much time arguing over waifus instead of getting shit done.

You have only yourselves to blame for this.

>>153481154
>implying anyone would want to use the service you're part of
If only you aren't a tripfag, then people might have more faith. Unfortunately for you, as long as the archive exist, everyone can see all the stupid shit you've spouted.

>>153481436
No, you retard. You still don't fucking get it. The available options are already very good. Your bullshit venture isn't going to be any better despite what you think.

There is nothing to 'change'. I already got all the shit I want a need without you. The shit is already done and better. You just don't know about the options available but you keep acting like you do. The people complaining are just like you: clueless and ignorant. There is nothing for me to blame. I'm still getting all the shit I want. There is nothing to 'partake'.

You're just like them, equally ignorant.

>>153468966
I stopped buyfagging a while ago since it's always been clear that elevens only care about themselves. There's really no point in trying since they try so hard to stop you.

>>153481616
Nah, more like they only don't care about the murricans. Being a buyfag in asia and europe isn't much of an issue. Hell, often I've seen the murrican side shouting and whining about stuff while the asian market is all going well.

Even this avex thing right now is just going to be a temporary thing anyway. You guys are once again raising a ruckus because you're jumping to conclusion too quickly.

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>>153481567
Yeah, you find a way to get around this fuckery by shelling out more money, and effectively enabling this.

>>153481616
>>153481761
The publishers, the studios, the distributors all treat us like shit. Why? Because we never stand together to put any weight on them. This sorry state of affairs only continues because as many damns as people give, no one is ever willing to put their damns together. And if it weren't for the defeat of the TPP, we'd probably be in even deeper shit than we are now. It's the same problem with vidya: the gamers get treated like livestock because they can't take a stand against anything, no matter how absurd. I see this shit again and again and I'm goddamn fucking tired of it.

>>153480274
That's a result of globalization, not directly capitalism. Capitalism can be practiced just fine under a Protectionist economic model.

>>153481833
>shelling out more money
Yeah, because again, somehow your ignorant ass is super convinced your method is cheaper just because your daddy works in logistics. And you, who claims to know more than 99% of the people you're trying to be part of the thing, don't even have a proper plan is sure it'll be the cheaper way.

>>153458827
The publisher who bought the license has the (contractual) right to be the only seller in their region. They don't get any money from people who buy from the original publisher.

The original publishers agree to it because they believe they will earn more in total from licensing their work with these terms than from organic sales or a different kind of contract.

It's exactly why DVDs had the region locks for so long.

>>153481898
Globalization is simply capitalism in the 21st century. Last time anyone tried to reinstate protectionism, we had the Great Depression. Capitalism and protectionism are simply not compatible at this point.

>>153481833
Different anon here. What you suggested have been attempted before as well. Unfortunately, it simply isn't as good as the professional services. Turns out, they aren't just charging you for the hell of it, they actually have the obligation to ensure the services are done properly. Your idea needs more than a few dedicated autist to make it work, especially if it's for the long run. The ones that do work are very 'local' based and are on a very small scope.

>>153481833
>we
I'm not a poorfag like you. I have the money to buy all the anime merch I want and I don't care about whether filthy peasants like you can afford it or not. Keep bitching, faggot.

>>153482104
this time is different, this time is focusing in regional economies

>>153481833
The fuck? I don't give a shit about your murrican games. And I'm not murrican. Like I said, the non-murrican markets get their stuff just fine.

Fucking murricans still thinking they're the centre of the world.

>>153458600
I don't care about this, but if people start banning the importing of manga I'll flip my shit.

>>153480274
>>153482104
>>153482264
Capitalism and protectionism were never compatible you fucking retarded burgers.

>muh made in China
I'd rather have my computers cost $1000 rather than $2000 just so some white trash in bumfuck nowhere can have a "decent" job that still pays below the poverty line.

>>153482367
there is a thing called forwarder service

>>153482480
Service implies spending even more money, doesn't it?

>>153482503
1. This avex ban won't be permanent. As has been said, it implies they're planning to roll out their own service and don't want others selling their stuff if they can do it themselves and get more of the money

2. You can still import the manga you want

>>153458707
Kill yourself commie scum

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>>153482172
No, but they definitely take a cut for themselves. They're not running charities.
>>153482237
First against the wall motherfucker. Just remember that.
>>153482458
>>153482650
>>>/pol/

>>153482610
Why not set the ban after or around the time they introduce their NA distribution?

>>153482680
Yes, but I get my goods. I've seen a lot of well meaning fans think they can save more... only to end up costing them more.

Mate, real talk, you need to be less stubborn and accept that other people probably do know more than you. I've seen your back and forth. The other poster(s) wasn't just randomly being a dick you. Your idea simply isn't feasible.

>>153482723
>around the time
How do you know it isn't?

>after
Because it's a legal clusterfuck that takes time. It's not as easy as you think to get the timing correctly.

Lastly, whether you think this is a good decision or not is another issue entirely. Point is, for fuck's sake guys, why do you love to jump to conclusion all the damn time? Every time, a thing happens, you lot go full panic and starting off wild speculations and generalisations instead of you know, waiting a bit to get more details.

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>>153462441
>How am I gonna cope with this.
Buy faggots on bikes insted.

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>>153483105

>>153483105
Ito's mainstream debut is pretty great.

>>153484082
/pol/ is down the hall and to the right son.
>>153484165
If that's mainstream, then I'm afraid to even think of what he did in his niche stage.

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>>153458707
At least try to keep it anime related jesus christ

>>153485952
>replying to an hours late post after everyone already stopped giving a shit
You're just as bad as him for bumping the thread just to reply to an off-topic shit.

>>153486127
Lick my meat

>>153458687
Selling monopolies to western companies.

>>153477545
Just start your own Distribution company in Japan that ships stuff westwards.

>>153479573
Where is that info from?

>>153486999
http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=22025342&privcapId=704848

>>153459005
wait, Samurai Warriors got an anime series?

>>153483105
did his mom mate with praying mantis or something?

So does this mean we'll get no Fairy Tail/Trinity Seven DVDs outside Japan?

>>153458707
If you had said patent/copyright law I would've agreed.

>>153482458

But isn't that the problem?

Eventually once china (insert latest shithole here) gets min wage laws, the 'makers' (profiteers) move camp the the next shithole because employing locals costs too much. And then once you automate more and more of the work (AI writing code, auto driving etc) even more people are unemployed and have manual labor (that can't be automated yet) as a job.

Like in the next 50-100 years massive unemployment and a shitstorm of 'socialism' and social welfare NEEDS to be implemented. That or a war that kills some 50% of the population, only to restart the whole process because infrastructure is fucked and you need that bottom level manual labor again. None of our economic models are ready for what is coming, and there's so much resistance for that kind of change already, because those on top really don't want that change in their lifetimes.

>>153458687
Regressive capitalism is worst capitalism

>>153474185
I am fine without english subs but fuck i didnt even know there was BDs of it.

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>have to use a proxy/forwarder now for affected titles

gee i wonder who is behind this

>>153458687
it's because shinzo abe almost got his hand ripped off

What the fuck

>>153459370
>ebay
>choosing to pay triple

>>153459370
You do know DVDs have region codes right?

>>153482104
>Last time anyone tried to reinstate protectionism, we had the Great Depression
That's not at all what happened you knuckle dragging ape.

>>153459005
All garbage

>>153491441
>Trinity Seven
>Garbage
Explain anon.

I'd blame Amazon for this bullshit.

Seriously, they're the ones that want to kill the western market so they can take over.
Makes sense they'd also like to kill exports.

>>153479699
>compete to provide a better product than your competitor
More like
>compete to provide a cheaper product than your competitor at a slightly cheaper price than the old original quality product

>>153459273
>>153475465
>>153482650
>only commies criticize capitalism
>the world is black and white
Spot the americans.

>>153491748
>He criticises black and white thinking whilst argument a black and white standpoint on the concept being criticised.
Execute yourself

>>153459473
CR doesn't have the physical rights, you fucking retard.

>>153491779
>criticizing a critique of your mindset
>american

>>153464472
Again. Digital and BD rights are different.

>>153458707
>college freshman who just read Marx

>>153481198
>literally using the muh dad works for nintendo argument
Tripfags, ladies and gentlemen.

>>153491779
In English?

>>153458600
Well this sure isn't nice.

>>153458600
Apparently it's only the anime stuff being affected for some reason. The music stuff is unaffected, at least according to JPopAsia.

does this even matter to any of y'all?

this place is where the "what is this buy you speak of?" meme originated from, so it's hard to understand why this is news worthy.

>>153492191
/a/ is rather notorious for an anti-buying mentality but stuff like this makes such an impact in the anime industry regardless that it should be newsworthy at least.

>>153492215
i don't understand how. where do you even buy anime from these days? you can't even find that shit at best buy anymore other than old copies of dragonball z from like 2002.

>>153490447
Well fansubbing is dead so nobody will rip it for us. Only choice you have is to buy it but they don't want your money.

>>153492241
The most common option these days is through streaming sites such as Crunchyroll and Funimation, at least in North America. I know /a/ hates streaming (even "legal streaming") but that's the reality of the Western anime business. There's also localized BDs/DVDs depending on the country, although of course not every show is licensed.

Over in my country legal copies of anime are virtually non-existent and anime fans normally watch anime on cable or through "illegal" means. But from what I understand, in the West the case is similar to Japan: those who do want to have physical copies order online rather than buy in shops.

>>153467729
Proof? I don't doubt you, I just want ammunition to shut up CR fags for good.

If I actually bought anime this would fuck me over. But I do not, so I am not affected. Ever wonder why us baka gaijin pirate your stuff you stupid elevens?

>>153492241
there's something called online stores look it up

>>153492305
Buying anime makes no sense regardless of your perspective. Anime piracy sites are extremely convenient and if you don't feel like fiddling with torrents, you have the option to stream from sites like kissanime and 9anime, which don't require logins and don't require you to input your credit card information.

>>153492105
replace argument with arguing you stupid ESL cunt.

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>>153492344
if you have access to the internet why would you buy anime in the first place

>>153492359
To support the original creators I guess. I know it's a meme to hate CR and the like here because it's claimed that only a small percentage of profits actually goes to the Japanese (I have no idea if that claim is true or not), but if you can afford, then it wouldn't hurt to import directly from Japan when it's allowed. If you can't afford to buy anime, you can always buy related merchandise such as manga/LNs/music and drama CDs/etc.

>>153492366
>can't write a coherent sentence in his own language
>s-shut up you ESL!
Top kek. You can't make this shit up.

>whilst arguing a black and white standpoint on the concept being criticised
Where the fuck did I do this, retard.

FUJOSHITS BTFO

>>153492421
One word of different format constitutes nothing of this, and re-read your own post you inept fucking retard.
Kill yourself before you look like more of an utter ass.

>>153492177

What about anime CDs? I wasn't buyfagging when Hanayamata came out, or I would've probably bought its OP. But not when producers make retarded restrictions like this.

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>>153492331
Overseas income went from 326 million yen in 2014 to 583 in 2015, I'm not sure if that counts Crunchyroll or if that's under Internet Distribution which went from 40 to 43.

>>153492412
I don't know how you guys can muster up the empathy to support these creators. I remember when mangaka threw bitch fits because of gaijin pirates.

https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/08/17/mangaka-anime-pirates-are-nothing-but-immoral-thieves/

Yeah,
>sankakucomplex
But ask yourself if you really want to support these kinds of people.

>>153492359
Not even has good internet though anon. So some just buy it I guess.

>>153492509
As I mentioned, apparently avex music stuff (presumably including anime music) is unaffected. Only video disc sales are. Still stupid, but it's not as wide of a ban as people think.

>>153492105
He's saying that it's pretty hypocritical of the poster to do the same thing he's criticising others for.
>you think this way, you must be American

>>153492537

Well, CDJapan doesn't think so:
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/AVCA-74538

>>153492533
IIRC that guy was the exception and not the rule. While most mangaka hate piracy, they don't mind gaijin fans. There are some people who do hate having their products sold outside Japan in the first place so if those people complain about being pirated then they themselves are at least partly to blame.

>>153492533
>But ask yourself if you really want to support these kinds of people.
There are many great artists in the industry that I would love to support. But there is simply no practical way of doing so.

>>153492532
billion*

>>153492561
That release seems outdated. Here's a more recent news update.
http://www.jpopasia.com/feed/20529/avex-music-releases-unaffected-by-export-ban/

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>>153492533
tl;dr
>stop watching for free on baka gaijin sites
>ignore the fact that they use scanlations and fansubs because we don't server their market
How can he still blame the pirates?

>>153492500
Pretty embarrassing to be you right now tbqh senpai.

>>153492543
Everyone knows americans are the less educated people in the world.
No one else in the world would call someone who criticizes capitalism a commie unironically.

>>153492564
You can buy the manga. Hell, with digital release becoming increasingly common, you can just buy those. It doesn't take up space since it is digital and if you can't read moon, so be it, it's still giving money to the artists.

>>153491216
FUCKING TRUMP RUINS ANIME AGAIN

Gaijins are SJW and will drive loli sales down. It is better to nip it in the bud.

>>153492728
Makes sense. Doesn't help for anime originals, but it's a start.

>>153492533
>bitch fits because of gaijin pirates
That rant isn't about gaijin it's about Japanese pirates.
You baka gaijin are always thinking everything is about you.

>>153479699
Anime isn't like that. So it's useless buying anime

>>153491998
Wow, so reading is overrated then. I just finished a shitty Chinese cartoon actually

>>153493094
We're not stupid, we just fear that we're gonna be affected next.

>>153458687
So they can license it overseas for megabucks, and then the company who purchased the license can sell the product with a shitty dub to megacucks for more megabucks.

>>153494993
Whoa, that's pretty mega of them.