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Let's talk Dowman Sayman
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What's he working on right now?
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I've only read Voynich Hotel and Nickelodeon anything else I should check out?
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>>153422921
Anime never
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>>153422921
Just imagine her as a SHAFT loli.
Are you diamonds yet?
I know I am.
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Also, is this the only fucking series where the guy gets with the loli??
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Kirai, kirai, love
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>>153423362
It's ok, she's an immortal witch.
Perfectly legal.
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>>153423057
In January he started two new additional series:
- Melancholia (similar to Nickeloden)
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=138714
- Babylon Made wa Nan-kounen?
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=138840
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>>153422921
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>>153423410
I want to nibble her ears!
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>>153422921
Voynich hotel is the only work I liked from him. The rest were just so nonsensically boring
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>>153423410
never go full loli
once you go full loli, you can't go back

>>153423429
>Babylon
>genre: SF (sukoshi fuck)
douman never fails to disappoint
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>>153423057
Dowman doesn't work, he takes drugs in the vicinity of blank sheets of paper
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>>153423909
I love that one. It's from melancholia right?
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>>153424062
to be honest I don't even remember. I would assume so. can't be any of the Sexual Instincts since it doesn't have visible tiddies.
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>>153423125
The End of Sexual Instinct and the Hydrogen Bomb War.
It's one of his earlier (earliest?) collections, similar to Nickelodeon.
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I wish more of his oneshots were translated.
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So, in what chapter MC and delicious black girl have sex? i am serious, i know it actually happens but i don't know which chapter.
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>>153423429
>Follow the intergalactic adventures of a man traveling the stars with a mission: to bone the hottest girls the universe has to offer while uncovering the mysteries of his forgotten past.
He never disappoints
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>>153424666
>black
She's brown
>delicious
Ewww, flat small girls like her aren't attractice at all. You'd have to be a pervert to find them sexy.
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>>153424666
Somewhere around page 110 in volume 2.
But no, you don't get to see much. Just some little brown girl nipples..
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>>153424666
She's got a tan. There's a picture at her master's house.
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>>153423125
Ayame to Amane is really fun.
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>>153426030
>aren't attractive at all
But that is just objectively wrong
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>>153426257
>>153427092

Waist and Hips are literally perfect. Being flat is just a bonus.
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Have you heard the punchline? It turns out she's a witch
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>>153423362
>bisexual guy who used to fuck his aniki gets with an immortal brown loli
This author is a mad man.
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>>153427389
I like Dowman's bizarrely adorable take on love. I hope Oddman's MC ends with Slut.
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>western release never
I guess it's just another reason to learn nip.

Anyone reading his stuff raw? How hard is it?
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>>153427619
I like the unclean more
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>>153424761
>>153424710
>>153424664
>>153424577
>tfw this oneshot is for some reason my favorite manga from all time
I'll never understand why, but it just clicked with me.
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>>153422921
He's great,.
Also, Oddman11 update when?
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Having first learned of Dowman from bizarre guro doujins finding him making slightly less insane, sort of legit manga is disconcerting.
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>>153427619
She also has great taste in videogames.
Honestly i think ti will end with something more unexpected, like hooking up with the dude at the beginning that nobody even remembers anymore
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>>153423787
Man, how boring do you have to be to blame anything surrealistic on drugs?
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>>153423429
Any idea when new chapters of these come out?
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>>153422921
Every time I read that name, I remember that first Niconico video. sm9 or something.
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in honor of this thread still being alive after my class i'll dump the first chapter of Melancholia because hot damn douman's in top form
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>>153432215
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I find myself reading random chapters from Nickelodeon and Voynich Hotel from time to time. Sometimes I just look at the art when I'm bored.
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>>153432256
Thank you anon. Gives me something to read before my class begins.
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>>153431808
Thanks anons, it's been long since I last read something of Douman.
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>>153432328

>>153432299
>>153432310
cheers friends, enjoy
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>>153429709
I can get why. It's pretty good.
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>>153432373
>>153432328
>>153432292
;_;
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>>153423125
Sexual Instinct series was pretty enjoyable.
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>>153432373
>enjoy
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>>153432373
Nice.
Next one is pretty good too.
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I keep hoping Voynich Hotel will get licensed, but I don't imagine anything Douman does will ever get licensed here.
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>>153432373
Thanks for dumping
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Oh fuck, isn't Oddman 4 "The Collector" originally from another piece? Are all the other oddmans supposed to be from other douman works too?
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>>153433523
I'd be incredibly surprised if anything he's ever made gets licensed in the states. God forbid if any of the moral police ever catch wind of him as well.

>>153434000
This was a fun one.
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>>153434713
Which side do you think will be the first to call it disgusting trash, the moral panic right or the moral panic left?
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>>153435158
It's probably more objectionable to the right, but both sides would probably throw a fit.
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>>153427389
>used to fuck his aniki
I don't remember that part at all.
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>>153435317
It's shown near the end of the manga.
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>>153435380
Is it implied, like they're shirtless in the same bed or taking a bath together, or is it spelled out?
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>>153436111
Chapter 66, judge for yourself.
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>>153436328
Yeah, I just took that scene platonically. If he was positioned above or behind him I could see, but they are both facing each other. Just seems like very close familial bond to me.
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>>153436469
>2 men naked in a bed together wanting to run away from the Yakuza together with a huge chunk of cash
>platonic
That's one hell of a platonic love anon.
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>>153436526
They're brothers. Then again I took "Aniki" literally rather than as a term of endearment within the Yakuza.
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>>153436554
You don't sleep shirtless in the same bed as your male buddy, then offer to run away together with him. You just don't. Even if there was no benis in butt, they had to be closer than just friends.
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>>153436783
No no, I think he's literally his brother on rereading. Flesh and blood brother. You can do that shit with your actual brother and not have it be buttfucking.
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>>153436328
>>153436526
I don't think they were fucking. Douman has no problem showing homo relationships in an explicit manner. In this case he really focused on depicting these two as brothers, even if they are shirtless next to each other in one page. There is also one page showing the two assassin sisters where one is fully naked (and about to "indulge" in a cat") and I don't think they're fucking either, so apparently the author thinks it's fine for one sibling to be naked next to another.
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>>153436829
Anon, I don't know how you're seeing it, but if anyone else were to do that in real life, they'd probably eat dicks for a living.
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>>153436829
You don't call your actual brother aniki, especially if you're in the yakuza.
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>>153436971
If they were real related brothers and they were poor and they both worked for the mafia and therefore were likely to go on jobs together while renting one hotel room then yes, I wouldn't really raise an eyebrow if they were seen sleeping shirtless next to each other.
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>>153436971
It's not too out of the ordinary for close siblings to share a bed in a motel room with only one. A following page, he refers to him directly as his "Brother" to the yakuza and they don't treat it with any ambiguity like you would expect if he was using "Aniki" as shorthand for superior. They're siblings and they're relying on one another, I don't think they'd really bother getting all dressed up to hide their SINFUL CHESTS from one another just to share a bed in a motel.
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>>153423429
What are the update schedules for his manga?
I know some stuff is just untranslated but surely there is an actual schedule for chapter releases
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>>153438472
Oddman 11 comes out on the magazine Megastore Alpha, once every 2/3 months, and Melancholia is published on Ultra Jump which has a monthly release. Can't find much info about Babylon.
Now the time between publication and translation may not be very short, it depends on the fantranslator group.
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Oddman 11's tank comes out soon. Suicide Parabellum is supposedly coming out soon after, according to Dowman.

I have a box of Dowman's older doujinshi and videogame anthology stuff to scan, dunno when I'll get around to that.
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>>153439367
Sharing new material would be well-received but take your time.
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>>153422921
Oddman 11 is probably ending this month.

Next week, the one and only volume is releasing. If it doesn't end I'll be shocked.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AA%E3%83%83%E3%83%89%E3%83%9E%E3%83%B311-%E3%83%A1%E3%82%AC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%82%A2%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9-%E9%81%93%E6%BA%80-%E6%99%B4%E6%98%8E/dp/4864369984
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>>153436967
Stop being deluded.
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>>153442592
fujo plz leave
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Is it that time again, /a/?
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What's this?
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>>153444095
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>>153423429
Nice.

Also, thanks to Thetsuuyaku for all their scanslation work of Douman's work. Thetsuuyaku and Hox (who finally gave us a complete translation of Ashita no Joe, in addition to PunPun, among others) are the saviors of English manga translation.
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oh no
why friend
why do this
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>>153439367
>Suicide Parabellum
Finally.Thanks elem.
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>>153444259

Happy Valentine's day.
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>>153444411
ohh
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>>153444411
Yeah, you too...
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>>153444411
I didn't want to be sad today
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>>153444411
Douman is the master of feels. The ending of Katanagatari ain't got shit on Douman. Grave of the Fireflies? Yeah, right; no comparison to Douman.
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I really love this guy's work. Wish it would get an official English translation so I could buy copies I can read.
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>>153444411

I never asked for this
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>>153434713
>the moral police
Fuck off
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>>153445514
Are you seriously in denial that America has a bunch of panic seeking ideologues?
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>>153445652

Not that anon, but I don't think this "moral police" is the reason a lot of Douman's works don't get published in the West.
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Outside of Voynich, Nickelodeon, and now Melancholia and Babylon, Dowman's stuff is all either doujins or literal hentai. Given who publishes them the only one with even a chance of an English release would probably be Voynich, and even that's unlikely.
That being said I'd kill for a hardcover release of all three Voynich volumes in one big book, like Yen Press did with Wolf Children.
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>>153444411
thank you but fuck you
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>>153443404
Fujo? You act as if Dowman doesn't throw in gays and lesbians everywhere. THe same series has an open homosexual who falls for a slut who murders her lovers, and in Nickelodeon there were at least 2 stories I recall with gays, and 2 others with lesbians. This is of course disregarding all the other weird shit, like pedophilia, necrophilia, incest, bestiality, and whatever else comes to Dowman's mind.
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>>153444411

That was like Edward Scissorhands but good.
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>>153446566
of course, it won't ever happen due to loli sex
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>>153446886
Lightweight
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>>153447276
Nickelodeon had a tranny too.
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>>153431794
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9
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Anyone want me to dump How Many Lightyears to Babylon?
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>>153448281
I sure bloody do.
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>>153448572
Okay then
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>>153448592
Thanks anon.
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Chapter 2
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Done.
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>>153448887
neat, thanks
i guess this is a big one with an actual story, then?
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>>153448821
>my womb is connected to a higher dimension
Dude. How have I never thought of this before?
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>>153447276
That's why I said Douman has no problem showing homo relationships in an explicit manner. If he wanted to tell the readers that these two fine fellows were fucking then he would have drawn them fucking, instead of showing them shirtless together for one page.
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>>153449902
No he wouldn't. He doesn't show explicit fucking all the time, dumbass. He didn't show Elena fucking, for instance, nor any sex in Nickelodeon.

And they were hugging too, and we know Taizou "falls in love easily" (chapter 1, practically the first thing we learn about him), where there's no indication of anyone he might have fallen in love with in the past aside from his "aniki". A lot of Voynich is pure implication rather than outright statements, too; something you conveniently forget.

Honestly, it's not worth debating. Either you see the writing on the wall or pretend it isn't there for...whatever reason.
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>>153450008
>nor any sex in Nickelodeon
actually there was one panel of mini neanderthals fucking, I think, now that I recall
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>>153450050
the astronauts fugged in that strip too
also koyowhatever the hypnotist girl was fucking her man when the one-handed miku clone walked in
and chiiko the lost girl gets taken home also

no actual penis in vagina i suppose

but to get back to the main point i read Taizou as just being young and idolizing his bro. there's nothing other than them being naked together, it adds nothing to the story if he was both gay and into incest, and the vibes just aren't there.

as said before, douman implies often but his implications are rarely subtle ones. this one is either too subtle to detect or just not there.
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>>153450201
Or you refuse to acknowledge it for some reason. You've had people tell you exactly why and what clues are there ("aniki" doesn't imply blood relation in the yakuza, they're clinging to one another at least shirtless (probably naked) in bed, Taizou obviously loved him, he loves easily and over time his tastes change to suit Elena, Dowman regularly uses implied sex and saves explicit sex for his porn or for comedy)

So yeah. Also, nothing you mentioned was explicit, just implied. I don't know how you think the lost girl's implication is somehow less obvious than Taizou and his old gay lover (it's the same thing, just a man and woman -- actually it's less, since they're not even hugging) and I don't really care, either. I've laid it all out, your only defense is that you do not agree.
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>>153422921
Post the fan art of Steins;Gate this artist drew
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>>153450201
>, it adds nothing to the story if he was both gay and into inces
1) it isn't incest, moron
2) If you think Taizou having a homosexual lover in the past adds nothing to the story you missed the themes of love and ties to the past in the series, which is incredible because Dowman practically beats you over the head with it (count the number of odd relationships, lovers or familial or anything, and the number of old grudges or people clinging to the past: Taizou's relationship exemplifies that)
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An immedately recognizable artstyle and incredibly bizarre humor? God I wish I knew of this guy's work ages ago
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>>153450371
You should have, newfriend. Dowman is a 4chan favorite and has been for a very long time.
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>>153450008
You -are- aware that Taizou didn't know Aniki was dead until chapter 66, right? You bring up that Taizou falls in love easily but you need to realize what it implies. You're saying Taizou planned to elope with his lover, and then something came up, they were separated, and Taizou immediately forgot everything about his lover and started dating the local maid. You don't think he would keep hopes that he's alive or have a mourning period? That's one hell of a character development, Taizou being uncaring and unfaithfull all along, and it's all implied in a single page after 66 chapters.
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>>153450389
Yeah my newfag is showing. Someone did a thread on Voynich Hotel around when I started lurking and read it all in one sitting. The fact there's not even an OVA for any of Dowman's stuff is just criminal.
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>>153426030
>flat small girls like her aren't attractive at all.
She's a goddamn Immortal witch that crushes evil demons and criminals. She would make my paladin heart melt.
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>>153450294
friend you have me confused with the other anons, that was my first post on the topic.

you've made your argument and it's a fair one. i remain unconvinced for now, however. maybe it'll make sense on a reread, i'll try to look for it next time but i'm afraid right now it just doesn't click.
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>>153450416
>. You're saying Taizou planned to elope with his lover, and then something came up, they were separated, and Taizou immediately forgot everything about his lover and started dating the local maid.
yeah it's almost like this is stated immediately as the manga starts

>You don't think he would keep hopes that he's alive or have a mourning period?
The series isn't THAT serious. It's from Dowman Sayman, who often explores twisted and unusual love. Also...

Did you know you can love more than one person? This is another aspect of the manga.
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Aniki is still a pretty fuckin' weird thing to call the guy you're boning.
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>>153450294
>they're clinging to one another
I don't see any physical contact here >>153436967. They are just facing each other. For lovers who are about to elope together there is a significant lack of hugging or kissing or any touching at all. Just two people talking face to face but it's done while sharing a bed so it must be gay.
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>>153450533
That's the stupidest thing I've read all thread.

>>153450550
Panel 2, TWO. Are you blind? Actually, panel 1 as well. They're under the covers together, hugging (seen more clearly in 2, bro's on the left, Taizou's on the right, and you can tell that's bro's body since it's thicker, and there's no way Taizou's head could move that way if it was his), Taizou is surprised, they break apart and talk face to face.
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>>153450550
>For lovers who are about to elope together there is a significant lack of hugging or kissing or any touching at all.
also this bullshit

Again, Dowman does that kind of thing a lot. Even if he's a porn artist, he knows how and when to be subtle.
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>>153450496
>The series isn't THAT serious.
Taizou shows emotional reaction when it is confirmed that Aniki is dead. Therefore he does have feelings. It is an extremely weak rebuttal to make the claim that Taizou stopped showing normal feelings for humorous reasons for the sole purpose of substantiating your claim.

>Did you know you can love more than one person?
It is an even worse rebuttal to make the claim that Taizou must be polyamous for the purpose of explaining how it is remotely possible that Taizou would immediately stop caring about the lover he was supposed to elope with.
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>>153444411
>Comfy tragedies
I never know I wanted this
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For fuck's sake, just tweet Dowman and ask him whether Taizou was buttfucking with his aniki or not.
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>>153450660
So you basically disagree and call my rebuttal "weak" although this is a series with an openly homosexual man that turns off of the dick for a woman for no clear reason, but when it happens twice that baffles you.

Also this series has a child fall for a recovering drug addict. That's the normal relationship, another child falls for a decaying zombie.

The series has fucked up romances, Dowman is a simple writer, he gave you a character trait of "falls in love easily", shows you two people he obviously loved, and yet you still think it's bullshit? My rebuttals aren't weak, you're just daft and stubborn.
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>>153450611
>Panel 2, TWO. Are you blind?
They are not touching in panel two.
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>>153450715
...Do you know how to read manga?
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>>153450705
Asking authors to confirm implications because you're too dumb to figure it out yourself should be a criminal offense.
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>>153450611
yes i am familiar with poorly acted meme porn but let's be real here

all i'm seeing is puppy-like admiration for an older brother figure. i dunno. none of the bits with them together have that romance feel. admiration, idolization, yeah. it fits with grandma saying taizou falls in love easily but it's possible it's more 憧れる than 好き.

who knows, maybe you're right and i'm knee-deep in a certain egyptian river. but i'm flipping through pages now and none of their bits together have that romance.

he's a different person with aniki than he is with elena. he follows aniki like a puppy but it's the other way around with elena. perhaps this proves nothing and means nothing, but it's noticeably different.
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>>153450707
You cling to the mantra "Falls in love easily" as if it means "become unfaithful easily". Nobody argues with you that he falls in love easily, you are fighting an imaginary strawman. Yes he falls in love easily but this isn't what we are discussing here. Taizou has never once shown the inclination to be unfaithful. You claim we are supposed to accept the main character of this story was actually, for the entire time, an uncaring weak-minded individual and a piss poor lover, who was supposed to elope with someone and immediately betrayed that trust, and inexplicably never shown that character trait again once he was with his new partner. You think all of this happened and the author wanted to show it in a subtle way in a single page after 66 chapters. Yes, I will call your rebuttal weak.
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>>153450803
>You cling to the mantra "Falls in love easily" as if it means "become unfaithful easily". Nobody argues with you that he falls in love easily, you are fighting an imaginary strawman.
These sentences suck. I don't know what you're trying to say with them, but "falls in love easily" is one of the several things I brought up. I'm not clinging to it.

>uncaring
You're the one who assumed he's uncaring if he falls in love with more than one person despite knowing that he is an easy romantic. That said, I might have confused you since I didn't refute you saying "this must mean he doesn't care". No, it means he cares about more than one person. I don't know why you think he can't do that.

>was supposed to elope with someone and immediately betrayed that trust
Taizou is a traitor and that's the second thing we learn about him. He betrayed his family (the yakuza) for whatever reason and fled the nation.

>inexplicably never shown that character trait again once he was with his new partner
No reason to. His relationship with his aniki was more risky. We don't know all the etails.

>Yes, I will call your rebuttal weak.
And I'll call you a moron. Okay.

It really annoys me that this is obvious as fuck and your only actual defense is "I don't think so".
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>>153450724
I assumed it must have been that panel that confused, like maybe you thought the hand belonged to Taizou. If you mean panel two in manga reading order then it's even worse. I don't see how it could possibly be confusing. They are facing each other with zero skin contact whatsoever.
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>>153450890
So you ARE blind?

Here, I tried to make it obvious.

>>153450801
>all i'm seeing is puppy-like admiration for an older brother figure
See whatever you like.
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>>153450801
>he's a different person with aniki than he is with elena. he follows aniki like a puppy but it's the other way around with elena. perhaps this proves nothing and means nothing, but it's noticeably differen
it's called maturing

he's obviously grown up a lot since then
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>>153450887
>You're the one who assumed he's uncaring if he falls in love with more than one person
see
>It is an even worse rebuttal to make the claim that Taizou must be polyamorous for the purpose of explaining how it is remotely possible that Taizou would immediately stop caring about the lover he was supposed to elope with.
Of course, making Taizou polyamorous instead of traitorous does little to remove all the hurdles you have to explain. If Taizou is polyamorous then he still inexplicably lose that trait or never showed that trait again once he was with his new partner. You have a strange obsession with Taizou suddenly gaining character traits and immediately losing them for the sole purpose of explaining a single page out of the entire story.
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>>153450968
didn't he leave for the island when his aniki didn't show up to the rendezvous? aka like a few days later?
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>>153450922
I only see a red line on a shoulder and two people talking face to face.
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>>153450988
I have no obsessions, but I am not surprised you assume I do as you are obsessed with thinking he's not a flippant bisexual.

There isn't really anyone else he can fall in love with on the island. Who? The drug dealers that he hardly interacts with? The ghost that falls for the mangaka? Snark, who he only meets twice and doesn't have any interest in?

And you keep saying "a single page in the entire story". I always saw it as a way of re contextualizing old pages. But hey, you seem to want to act like you're smart so keep it up, I guess.
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>>153451048
Taizou's cheek is on his Aniki's shoulder while they're hugging under the covers. Taizou is skinny, you can see his arm that's bent into his bro's chest. His bro has a thicker body, and is thus probably that body on the left, holding him. Even if these two bodies were supposed to be one (Taizou's) it wouldn't make sense anatomically: he'd be breaking his neck.

They're face to face, alright, and likely schlong to schlong.
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>>153451034
I really don't remember, but his flashbacks always made him look shorter and younger. It's never clear when exactly everything took place, and if it IS, I don't remember it being clear.
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>>153451103
it seems to be implied that way to me though you're right it isn't made explicit. aniki says let's get out of the yakuza and run away, leave me behind if i don't show up. the boss man says they were hunting the two of them for the money that got stolen. taizou's carrying the suitcase full of money with barely any in it used up.

but yeah the flashbacks (all two pages of them) make him seem sorta childish. which is probably where i keep getting the 'kid looking up to an older brother figure' thing, and also why him being naked in bed with aniki doesn't immediately strike me as anything sexual.

this is only just impressions however.
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>>153451179
>why him being naked in bed with aniki doesn't immediately strike me as anything sexual.
that's the really weird thing, I say

Dowman has no problem putting kids in romantic and/or sexual situations, Voynich included.
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>>153451057
>There isn't really anyone else he can fall in love with on the island.
That is the weakest rebuttal yet. There is plenty of available people. He literally meets a single attractive man who casually says "I'm gay" during dinner. Snark literally tries to seduce him and he turns her down. If Dowman wanted to communicate to the reader that Taizou is polyamorous then he could have easily done so. This author never had a problem with depicting sexually open characters. Taizou does no exhibit any such traits. You give me no choice but to conclude you have an obsession with Taizou suddenly gaining character traits and immediately losing them for the sole purpose of explaining a single page out of the entire story.
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>>153451220
>That is the weakest rebuttal yet.
Okay.
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>>153451209
i'm with you on this one. i'm no 'walked her home gently' dense fucker by any means but i just can't see the homolust here.

no qualms about it being there, one of the main themes of voynich seems to be 'you're attracted to who you're attracted to, regardless of who/what it is'. the homo falls for snark and a kid whose dick doesn't work loves a woman whose vagina probably has to be sewn back on every other week. the robot is built for anal. it would certainly not be either weird or out of place.

perhaps i'll just use this as an excuse to reread it again.
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>>153424666
>black
The sisters are Russian.
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>>153451310
The thing I like about it is that it just puts everything else into an interesting spin, and finally makes chapter 1's claim about him falling in love make some kind of sense (sure, he falls for Elena in a few chapters, but in the past he seemingly has no love interests, so why would his grandmother say that?)

It also in a way explains his shifting tastes and sexuality. Maybe it explains why he was so into the yakuza (because his Aniki was), like how he gets really into Elena's body although he initially claims to prefer fuller forms.

And what's more, I just found it a neat and obvious in retrospect twist that explained better why he was really torn up about knowing his bro was probably dead. I dunno, I thought it fit perfectly, since the only "sibling" relationships in the manga otherwise were all sisters (the witches, Alice and her sister, the assassins)
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>>153450705
He'll laugh at you.
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>>153451078
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>>153451445
I explained it to you. If you still don't get it, I can't help you.

Maybe I should've stopped at "his cheek is on the other man's shoulder". Maybe I over-complicated things for you.
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>>153444411
I still fapped
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Whats the Doumans best work?

Its the hotel,isnt it
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>>153451409
it is definitely an interesting interpretation now that i've given it some thought. if there was a bigger/clearer time frame between the yakuza days and taizou's stay on the hotel island it would certainly help things, but it's hard to imagine him staying on the lam long enough for it to be a flashback to his younger days. though the framing definitely gives that impression.

i think mostly i just think calling your bf aniki is really fucking weird. i dunno, maybe it's a japanese gay thing, that isn't exactly something i'm familiar with. plus it parallels the actual sister assassins.

but yeah it is interesting, thanks for the second opinion. good thing i'm an eng lit faggot, i like this sort of stuff.
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>>>>153451480

Why would his cheek be on his fucking shoulder, that would be uncomfortable as fuck if they were facing eachother. It's like you've never slept with another human being before
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>i just think calling your bf aniki is really fucking weird
He is also his superior in the Yakuza.
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>>153451480
I see a scene where two people are in bed. One person is trying to sleep. That is the red circle. The other person is laying on the side, their hand on their chin, and wants to talk. That is why the other person is much bigger to the left of the red circle, the person is laying on the side instead of laying flat. The person who is trying to sleep then lift their head and turns, as seen in panel two, and they talk together face to face. You can tell from the orientation of the faces that the two people are talking to someone in front of them.

I don't see how you plan to explain the area in the red circle. If they are one tangled mess in the middle of the bed then why is the bed cover not flat there? If these two individuals were spooning like lovers then why don't they talk in that position? How does it make sense that they are one tangled mess in the first panel and suddenly they begin talking face to face? There are too many things that don't add up to support your fanfiction.
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>>153451568
you should never mix business and pleasure, friend
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Done.
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>>153451526
I think it's Nickelodeon. It pretty much shows off everything good about him: one shots, ongoing stories, "love" theme, and weird shit while being raunchy but not TOO raunchy.

Sadly it was canceled and never reached its full potential.

>>153451549
>maybe it's a japanese gay thing, that isn't exactly something i'm familiar with
Kind of, actually. The "Japanese sense of gay" is very masculine. That aside in the yakuza you refer to one another as family.

>>153451561
Why do I have to explain this...

First, turn off your weird sense of aggression and actually imagine being intimate with another human being. This is a maneuver like being cradled by a person. You're hold in their arms while you're sitting in bed and rest your head on their shoulder, press your hands into their chest. In the page, they're sitting up and doing this, which is why the sheet is raised in such a way. The fold you moronically pointed out is what we call a "fold" in English. It happens when cloth is bunched up

So they're kind of holding each other, Aniki springs a crazy plan, they break apart and talk.
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>>153451625
always liked that one.
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>>153451605
They're holding each other. I really don't care if you can't see it, it's like trying to explain how grass is green.
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Honestly the weirdest part about them sleeping together is that Taizou is the big spoon. He's tiny.
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>>153451605
Why do you type like a condescending asshole, by the way?

I've never seen someone so confident and proud of their own idiocy.
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>>153446566
I think we can fund for this. Like patreon or kickstarter. At least I'll buy it double the normal price.
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>>153451635
>It happens when cloth is bunched up
Clothe is not bunched up there. It is entirely flat. If there is a bump that is because there is something under it. The author deliberately drew a bed with one large bump and one tiny bump. Then he drew one person who wants to talk and one person who reacts by lifting their head. It is natural to assume that the author chose to draw Taizou lifting his head for the same reason he chose to draw the second, flatter bump in the bed. That is, because Taizou was laying flat and Aniki was laying on his side.
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>>153451757
I think something else to consider is that if Dowman had WANTED a work of his animated, he had several opportunities and took none.

Or maybe I'm being weird about it. To be fair he's a niche artist.
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>>153451445
Get references if the tattoos on their arms.
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>>153451685
>First, turn off your weird sense of aggression
>Why do you type like a condescending asshole
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>>153451783
>he had several opportunities and took none
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>>153451548
Are they fucking? They are naked in close proximity.
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well this was for the most part fun, good night all

you fuckers better be done arguing bedsheet logistics by the time I wake up tomorrow.
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>>153451839
Nah we're gonna do this forever. We'll start making 3D models of hyper-realistic bedsheet logistic and we'll still argue about who's fucking who.
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>>153451768
You're thinking too hard about this. Not sure why, I guess just pretending to be retarded? I don't like repeating myself, though.

>>153451809
Dowman Sayman has been creating manga for over 20 years and has made at least three standout notable works (Nickelodeon, Voynich Hotel, and The End of Sexual Instinct and the Hydrogen Bomb War). He's known, niche or not, and probably had a few chances for animated deals (considering nearly anyone can get deals -- fucking AKikan was animated for fuck's sake). He's obviously a firm MANGAKA, though, so I actually wonder if he's even interested in having his work animated.
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>>153451838
Are you trying to be clever? Because this one shot, while it's not about a sexual relationship, is definitely about how the elephant man wants Jack's dick.
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>>153451879
>You're thinking too hard
I'm thinking I see a bump in a bed. I assume there's someone there. I assume there isn't two people tangled in the bigger bump because then this area would be flat.
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>>153451967
Okay.
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>>153450416
He was supposed to leave if his aniki didn't return, meaning that he knew he was caught, and mostly dead. Of course when he heard of what really happened to him in gruesome details, he would reacts.
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>>153450416
I'm not the person you have been arguing with, and I'm not sure if Taizou and Aniki were lovers. But,
>Taizou didn't know Aniki was dead until chapter 66
I think this is wrong. You see here in the last panel of >>153450801, Taizo says "Both you and grandma are...". This "..." must be apparently "dead". On this island people dream of dead people. At this point Taizo is aware Aniki is dead. In ch66 he only confirmed his death.
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>>153422921
Scientist in Love is probably my favourite Nickelodeon story. I hope he finds her after making the Shiisa
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Dag, you guys really love Dowman.

That's okay because so do I.
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>>153452838
>>153452864
>>153452879
That took a turn.
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>>153452879
Oh shit.
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>>153452258
You're right and you make a fair point. Aniki's death might be confirmed in chapter 66 but Taizou already suspected the worst. We can surmise he had some hope he survived at the start of the story and it slowly melted the longer he waited on the island and Aniki didn't contact him. When does that dream happen in the story? I do agree with the text in the post that Taizou's adoration toward Aniki appears different to his relationship with Elena.
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>>153452971
>When does that dream happen in the story
Very early in the first volume.
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>>153452879
mermaid curse => incomplete transfer => zombie curse
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>>153452990
Thank you.
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>>153452971
It's day 9 when Taizou smoke weed and lost conscious.
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>>153422921
Didnt know he had a following
glad to hear it
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>>153452879
Nice!
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>>153453586
>weed
You mean Mercelo
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>>153451423
He answered me when I asked about the zombie girl, and whether is was an umbilical cord or a vibe cord coming out of her vagina in the one-shot he did.
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>>153454375
What did he say?
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>>153454411
It was an umbilcal cord. We were arguing about it here, and someone was saying it was a vibrator. Ah, good times. https://twitter.com/dowmansayman/status/388453972153233408
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Should I dump some more?
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>>153454550
Always. Do the scientist from Nickelodeon
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>>153454563
Which chapter was that?
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I want something new from him.
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>>153454595
Not sure, somewhere around six I think.
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You mean this one?
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>>153454662
Cute.
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>>153454640
Yeah, thanks. Made V-day for me, thanks. Everyone needs a bit of unethical AI YO
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>>153454772
After this she actually went to the moon.
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>>153432373
>>153432328
;_;
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Desk War
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>>153448667
>THAT ONE!!

kek
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>>153455055
Oh I'm dying to visit Sekaido!
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>>153455100
>Actually, masking tape was initially invented for this purpose...

I love it.
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>>153422921
His art is great but I can't get into his stories.
Maybe I just have bad taste
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>>153455196
Ouch.
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>>153455211
Is she pregnant?
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>>153455237
She got OfficeMax'd in her sleep.
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>>153455269
But who is the father!?
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>>153450550
its nothing wrong to have a bro moment with your aniki. no homo.
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>>153451635
>Sadly it was canceled and never reached its full potential.
I'm still not convinced it was canceled, it seemed to be doing well enough that he could have kept it going in the magazine's replacement if he really wanted to.
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>>153455201
A-Are you kidding me.
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>>153444411
Your digits only accentuate the pain.
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>>153455178
>>153455152
>dat angle
>drops of "fluid" on the bed

Uhm...
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>>153455484
Yes, sorry anon.
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Out of all the chapters in Nickelodeon this one is the only story I think didn't get a followup. Is this girl kill or did she make it long enough for the shuttlecock to save the day?
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Doubt.
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>>153455711
God only knows. At least there's no clear depiction.
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>>153423524
Voynich Hotel is pretty nonsensically boring too, as soon as you look beyond the repetitive overly lolsexual dialogue.
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That's all, folks.
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>>153456202
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>>153456237
I really like this, one of his better stories
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>>153454695
This is a weird thing to point out, but one of the reasons I like Douman's works is because of a single reference to old school MegaTen games in Nickelodeon.

>>153456237
Thanks

>>153455907
Hm. I hate having this loose end.
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>>153456202
>I don't understand this so it's boring

Not in a million yers
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>>153455196
god fucking damn it douman
i totally understand you
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>>153456925
>Dowman uses Mangahere
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>>153456925
Translate it weebs.
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>>153456990
Learn moon.
>It's not finished yet, but the volume of Oddman 11, serialized in Core Magazine, comes out in February.
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>>153457012
Then why did he link that translated page? I thought he was commenting on that.
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>>153457031
He just links translations of his manga a lot of the time when he says anything related to that series.
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>>153456237
Really nice.
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Does any kind Anon want to put together a Douman complete collection torrent? Some of the old links on Thetsuuyaku's site don't work anymore.

It would be a proper FOREVER ALONE valentine's day gift from Anon to Anon.
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>>153457862
These old things are not in madokami?
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>>153422921
I love Voynich Hotel so much.
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>>153457985
>madokami

What is this, Anon?
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>>153458040
Oh, sorry. Wrong thread.
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>>153458057
This is a Douman thread. It can never be the wrong thread.

Welcome, to the world of Douman!
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>>153451625
True story: Elephant man die because he was try to sleep like normal people and broke his neck in process.
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>>153457060
I wonder why
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>>153458040
/a/'s sekrit club response to baka
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>>153456971

You cant expect him to know about foreign reader sites. Besides, is Oddman 11 up anywhere that isn't watermarked besides Ex?
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>>153451879
20 years?
Do you have any proof of that?
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>>153459915
Every chapter has this little thing at the bottom that tells you where to get it from the translator himself.
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>>153460658
Look it up, dumbass.
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>>153461031
No need to be so angry Anon. Happy v-day, I love you!
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