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Will he job?
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OURBUU
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>Goku shows zero remorse for dooming a bunch of other universes and threatening the lives of his children and friends.

What did they mean by this?
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Reminder Toei Goku a shit
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>>153350515
winning universe doesn't get anything
winning team gets a wish
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>They already reveal the winner gets any wish granted

Way to take all tension out of the arc immediately.
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>that Zamasu style
He finally got that Zamasu did nothing wrong?
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>>153350567
No he clearly said to Supreme Kai and Beerus he didn't know that Zeno would erase the universes.

And when Beerus tells him to take responsibility he mans up and says he will win.
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Goku is that fucking guy that would loudly interrupt the Holocaust Museum tour guide to ask "Yo, where can I take a shit?"
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Reminder that Cleopatra is for those who are true patricians.
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>>153350510
no, he'll wreck shit and do too good.

Then some GoD will start bitching about Buu because he senses Kai energy from him, leading Buu to be disqualified from the tournament.

Or he'll just job to some punks and be seen as weak, only to pull out Super Buu or Kid Buu somehow during the tournament.
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>>153350579
Isn't that literally the same thing?
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I know Buu and Gohan were chosen for the sake of variety, but really Goku should have let Vegeta know what's really going on. If there is anyone he can trust to deliver it's him, but now we have to deal with Goku's mediocre son instead.
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>>153350592
>Ayy lmao wins it
>I'd like to wish for the revival of all the universes you've destroyed..
>With the exception of Universe 7
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>>153350510
the same thing happend in Z is happening in Super
>this guy is an idiot no way he's a threat|
then Buu fucks them up
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>>153350567
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>>153350510
Depends on your definition of job. If you use job like how it's actually meant in the wrestling business, I don't think Buu will job. I think he'll be shown to be very strong, probably even stronger than Basil and will likely just toy with him.

If you mean job as just loses no matter what the circumstances for the lost or how strong he still looked compared to his opponent, then probably. I imagine he's not going to take it seriously and will either lose by some technicality or he'll no sell Basil's offense but give up when he's pushed to actually hurt him to finish the match since he just wants to play with dogs and not beat them up.
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>>153350592
When has mass murder even lasted in Dragon Ball after Planet Vegeta?
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>>153350624
But that's not taking responsibility. That's deflecting.

In the first statement he attempts to shift the blame despite being warned. The second statement is just claiming what he was going to do in the first place, not accept that him winning means the destruction of all the other universes.
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Im kind of excited to see the universe 9 fighters in action but my first thoughts were "fucking furries"
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wtf Supreme Kai didn't know Beerus and Zeno existed, but suddenly he knows everyone from Universe 9. When did that happen?
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>>153350510
That Basil guy can do a fucking genkidama? I don't think so.
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What is up with this guy?
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hmmmm

also
what happened to the hyperbolic time chamber having a maximum capacity of two? why can goten, trunks, piccolo, AND buu be inside at once?
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>>153350626
Nah, he only interrupted because he knows Champa and Zeno is his friend.
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>Adaptational Heroism

>According to Toriyama this holds true even for the original Japanese anime. He was dissatisfied by the “righteous hero”-type portrayal the anime gave him. In the manga, Goku is supposed to be depicted as someone who doesn't fight for others, but fights for himself to get stronger. He wanted to depict someone who isn't a classic hero and can even be seen as not being a good person because of his selfish desire (a little bit of poison that sneaks through his character as Toriyama puts it).

>However, even going purely off the manga, this depiction of Goku is lost in translation since most of Goku's motives still nonetheless pertain to protecting or avenging his family and friends, and he does help people he barely knows when it didn't completely relate to fighting; like storming Muscle Tower to repay Suno for saving him from freezing to death and avenging Upa's father who was murdered by Tao before taking down the Red Ribbon Army, and getting the Dragon Balls to revive him. He wanted to fight the Saiyans not because they were powerful, but because they were going to murder everyone he knew. He didn't want to help fight Buu, despite having the power to do so, because he didn't want his friends to depend on him to save them, which if he was completely selfish he wouldn't care and fight Buu for the sake of having a good battle. It could be said that Toriyama's original intentions for Goku ended up evolving into something slightly different as Character Development took over. Basically, Goku is a hero who at his core has a good, kind heart that cares for others and wants to protect them, but he also has selfish personal motives that can override his better judgement.
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probably
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No universe will be destroyed and no wish will be wasted to bring the universes back. The Zenos will realize that they had too much fun watching the event and force them all to do it again once a year.
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Reminder that Gowasu is full on Punished Gowasu now, to the point he now has the same hairstyle Zamasu did.
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>>153350695
>people thought she would be best girl
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Anyone else think the animation was "different" this episode? It was like a cross between Buu Saga and some other style entirely
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>>153350707
>>153350712
holy fuck
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>>153350567
I know people will respond to this with the usual
>toriyama never wanted him to be a hero
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>goku has always been a selfish dickbag
but at some point you have to admit that he wasn't nearly this selfish or stupid in dragon ball or dragon ball z.
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Oh. Now I get what's gonna happen.

Majinn Buu's gonna have Basil on the ropes but get bored/tired and then forfeit.
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>>153350706
The master of the U11 Corps
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>Goku gets called out by Geand Priest and even tells everyone how he came with the idea in front of everyone.
>Other Universes don't like how he is speaking to Zeno so casually
>U7 curbstomps U9 in practice match

These other GoD's/Angels are totally going to paint Goku as a villain to inspire their fighters to go apeshit against U7, or at least Goku.
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>>153350761
We EoZ Gohan now
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>>153350707
Only has enough supplies for 2 people to survive a year in there
Piccolo doesn't need to eat and they want Buu dead, so Goten and Trunks are covered.
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Reminder that Zamasu could save 12 universes by killing Goku.
He did literally nothing wrong.
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>>153350777
girl brolly is best girl
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>>153350707
Time passes by normally when occupied by >2 people, I think.
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>>153350673
Shut up, Jaco
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>>153350592
The tension is still there, there's just no guarantee that a good universe will use the balls to bring back everyone erased or if anyone is willing to make a wish to go against Zen Oh's actions. Only gods are able to actually make wishes on the super dragon ball, so if alien guy comes from the clown god's universe then even if the alien guy is good, clown god might not care at all about the other universes getting erased.
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>Buu will break the legs of Red Knot Furfag
>Buu will be smiling carelessly and wanting more chocolate afterwards
PANIC
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SUBS FUCKING WHEN
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>>153350777
Debunked, Braly is part of U6.
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>>153350700
Old Kai made a kamibook and a kamitube channel for Shin.
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>>153350728
Universes will be destroyed.

Remember what people were saying during the ZAMASU arc? That ended with the death of an entire timeline and its people. No wishing back. No easy fixes or wishes. Everyone in that timeline's universe straight up died.
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>>153350817
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I haven't seen it yet, is GT supposed to be an end to the series, or is there room for more after it?

>>153350761
[arrow]streaming
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>>153350592
They could stipulate that they cannot wish for the other universes to be revived or they would wipe out the winning universe as well. Somehow Goku and pals lose the tournament yet survive. U6 wins and they all convene in U6 on Planet Sadala for a rebellion arc.
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>>153350761
>Anyone else think the animation was "different" this episode?

it was like this last episode too
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Goku didn't give any fucks because he trust in the power of friendship, simple as that. He don't think that Zeno would wipe all the universes.
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>>153350722
nobody gives a fuck. toriyamas vision for goku is shit and the dub make sure goku a better character.
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>>153350681
>ant foreshadowing
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>>153350830
already out on crunchyroll
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>>153350707
The Buu Saga retcons it that the only issue with so many people inside is that the room only has enough food for two people at a time.
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>>153350837
Sure thats what you think
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In hindsight, the Universe 7 fighters that were chosen for the preliminary all have the worst case of giving the wrong impression.

If Buu goes full sadist it makes Universe 7 look like it's full of monsters that love torturing their opponents.
If Gohan goes into a rage blackout to beat furfag 2, it makes Universe 7 look even more like monsters.

And then you've got "Literally acting like a Super Villain" Goku
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>>153350851
that's because super dragon balls can't used to wish something for another timeline (and that timeline SDBs were destroyed by zamasu)
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I hope we get to see the Gods of Destruction fight each other. As a sort of last resort for their Universe.
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>>153350865
>is GT supposed to be an end to the series, or is there room for more after it?
GT is an alternate time line that takes place after the End of Z.
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>>153350888
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>>153350761
It has been like this since last episode aka the start of this arc.
They changed art style so now it's this weird mix between Super's art and Boo Saga DBZ art.
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>>153350909
Beerus is gonna be pissed.
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>>153350706
Pennywise the Clown, from the universe where It won against the Losers' Club.
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>>153350114
They're making Goku pretty unlikable while simultaneously doing the opposite with Vegeta. I'm curious as to what their end game is, because right now he appears to be the worst person amongst the Z-fighters.
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>>153350924
>I hope we get to see the Gods of Destruction fight each other.
Me too.
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>>153350924
they're not allowed to fight each other
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>>153350907
One of the furries is in the other group shot with Hit, and they aren't part of U6.
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How would you react if Buu gets the ability to turn into Kid Buu at will like the Majins do in the Xenoverse games?
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>>153350948
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>>153350768
He was, but his enemies were planet busters, at most.

Now, with beings that can destroy universes, we can see better his stupidity.
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So, Universe 7 is the ghetto of the multiverse.
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>>153350851
And then Trunks and Mai went to the same timeline a year in the past and prevented any of tht from happening, which is basically the same result.
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>>153350984
>stop fighting or i'll destroy your universe!
Doesn't mean much at this point.
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Zeno gonna destroy the Super Dragon Balls at some point.
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>>153351017
>So, Universe 7 is the Amerifat of the multiverse
Seems so.
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>>153350996
I fucking hated Kid Buu. I just wanted the arc to end at that point. If he becomes Kid Buu with a personality, fine, but I'd rather he stays how he is or just thins out.
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>>153350996
I'll be mostly confused since it's the disconnection of Buu that caused Super Buu to turn into Kid Buu in the first place.
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>>153351005
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>>153351025
Except not really, since they get stuck living as doubles in a copy of their home.
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>>153351042
Hey, you got the script??
How this saga ends?
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>>153350996
I'd rather have Super Buu
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Why did Goku say that Goten wasn't old enough when he literally put them in charge of defeating Buu? I hate Goku so much.
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>>153351027
this.

They will literally die anyway.
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>>153351017
the last one was the voice of the u6 fat green kaioshin.
Who literally has seen Goku before be "disrespectful" to zeno
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>>153350935
>>153351006
okay but consider this
a post-gt movie where the main cast fights a final superboss, the narrator aka some sort of omniscient universal god that's been watching goku's travels since the beginning and knows all of everyone's attacks
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>>153351025
Only if you're retarded and don't understand the concept of timelines.
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Anyone else noticed that Toriyama is writing himself into a corner with all this god bullshit? Where can he possibly go form here to keep his viewers interested? What can possibly be stronger than a super saiyan god? When DBZ ended, there were tons of potential routes he could take, but with th is god storyline, there isn't much left to explore.
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>>153351027
>>153351087
Based on Supreme's Kai's reaction on finding out what happens to the losers, on how he'd never be able to show his face if his universe is wiped out, I think the gods are exempt from being killed if their universe loses.
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>>153350865
GT had a pretty conclusive ending. Super isn't really connecting with it though. Stuff like Kaioshin separating, Golden Freeza and the god forms go directly against what's shown in GT.
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>>153351115
looks like a seth macfarlane character
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>>153351065
Maybe Raditz and Goku really would get along better if they met differently.
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>>153350994
Kool we'll see whose right soon enough
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Zamasu was so right it hurts.
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>>153351027
>>153351087
>Implying the King of all wouldn't vanish them in the instant they try to pull that bullshit

I simply don't want you people to be happy :^)
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This is your angel tonight.
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>>153351108
that is really the same result, except they have copies of themselves there

which, literally 1:1 timeline besides that
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>>153351140
Demons
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>>153351151
... why? What is the point of being a God of Destruction if you can't be a God over one? Besides, Zeno has destroyed Universes before and Beerus is pissing his pants over him.

No, they will die too.
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>>153351107
They fight Toribot?
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>>153351083
The power gap.
I was about to hit post but then I realized Buu, Krillin, Roshi, Piccolo, Tien, 17, and 18 all have spots on the roster, never mind.
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>>153351161
Thats what Gine wanted she wanted Radditz too look out for his brother
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Manga chapter 21 when?
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I love the fact that the Daishinkan proclaimed out loudly that Goku was the one who doomed their universes.

He's going to be so hated.
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>>153351140
The 23rd Budokai already had Goku surpassing the one who was the supreme god at the time and his evil half that surpassed him. He can easily bulshit more stuff when the time comes.
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>>153350909
I have a theory of how this tournament will work and why U7 is fucked:
There won't be multiple fights between the universes happening at the same time.
Each time a Universe will be chosen and they get to pick who they want to fight.
After this match is over a new Universe is picked and they get to decide which Universe they want to fight.
For example:
UX is chosen and decides to fight against UY.
UX vs UY. There is a winner, the loser is destroyed and then UZ is chosen to pick which universe they want to fight.

I think after this preliminary match and after learning Goku is the one responsible for this ALL UNIVERSES WILL WANT TO FIGHT AGAINST U7 WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE AS A FORM OF VENGEANCE.
U7 would be fighting against every Universe one after another.
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>>153351186
I figured someone would say this, but the strongest character in the demon realm was Dabura, and he has already been taken care of.
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>>153351151
>beat champa's ass
>universe 6 and 7 destroyed
>kill supreme kai
>be at peace
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>>153351186
I want to marry Towa!
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>>153351186
How strong is Towatruck?
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>>153351214
Next week apparently
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>>153350768
That'd require actually reading the manga instead of exagerating random quotes Toriyama made up on the spot. The DB fanbase will do the second of course.
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I want porn of all 6 of them.
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>>153351247
Really? I thought it would be leaked this upcoming week.
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>>153351220
they haven't told the other universes that the loser unvierse is wiped out yet kek
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>>153351235
Not if ol Toriyama wants to use his characters from DBO
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>>153351235
Make towa canon but this time she's not playing with time
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>>153351247
is black SSR on the left there or is that still SSJ2?
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>>153351140
After THE EMPEROR OF THE UNIVERSE he went to "two teenage hooligans and a bug from the future"
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>>153351272
the dwarf didn't even say anything
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>>153351205
Unfused, Goten and Trunks are weaker than Buu, 17, 18, and Piccolo. The only ones weaker would be Krillin, Tien, and Roshi. And without sharing that the universe will be destroyed if they lose, their moms will probably want their kids to sit out of the tournament.
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>>153350768
>but at some point you have to admit that he wasn't nearly this selfish or stupid in dragon ball or dragon ball z.
Don't bother Toei shills will blindly defending Toei's flanderization of Goku.
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>>153351272
Be patient, anon.
In due time there will be lewds.
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>>153351205
I don't know the power gaps between Goten compared to Piccolo, Buu, 17, or 18. Piccolo is probably much more powerful. Buu is probably stronger and 17 and 18 are about equal. But he could easily kill Krillin, Roshi, and Tien no problem.
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Beerus reaction after the destruction reveal tho.
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>>153350777
>U11 Corps
>Posts a girl from U6

ok then
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>>153351235
There could always other people who can take his place :^)
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>>153351140
The Super Saiyan God concept existed in the original script by Toei before Toriyama rewrote most of it.
This is stated in his BoG interview.
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>>153350805
To be fair his plan was to erradicate life in all universes.

But you could replace Zamasu with all the previous villains in your post and it'd work.
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>>153350768
To be fair, he also didn't use to spare villains just to fight against them later. That was something introduced in the middle of the story and that people just accept as part of his character.
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>>153351318
yea no, unfused SSJ goten/trunks were beating 18 handily in the tournament and only stopped because she found out and was gonna tell on them
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>>153351316
So? I like shortstacks.

>>153351330
I highly doubt it.

The dogs might get a couple of pics if Im lucky, but the dwarf will get squat.
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>>153351316
He did have one line, though.
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>>153350681
What if that's NOT Goku?? What if during the Black Arc somehow Black switched places with Goku and has been larping as the real Goku this entire time?
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>>153351115
I can't get no satisfaction.
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>>153351235
And Buu was made by a demon and fucked 3 kaios and don't know how manys galaxies.

I'm sure they can do something with them.
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>>153351316
He asked if they would get erased if the fights weren't entertaining.
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So what excuse are they gonna give for Buu no soloing the three furries? It's clear that they're at best SSJ2-3 level and he's only toying with them.
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>>153351353
Didn't that start with Piccolo?
>yfw Kid Goku is somehow more heroic than adult Goku
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>>153351356
Individually I think they're weaker. They were double teaming 18.
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>>153351214
The 21st officially in Japan, but expect early leaks around the 20th or even earlier in Western time.
(Japan is like half a day ahead so if it says 21st, round it down to the 20th in America)
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>>153351087

One of the gods will rebel when he faces extinction and the Grand Priest will push his shit in.
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>>153351279
No, but once they find out about it, they know who is to blame for it.
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>>153351401
Technically, he was willing to let Tao go
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>>153351336
Kay we'll see when she appears what universe she is most people say 11 only the select few that don't buy into clown god stealing species from other universe believe that she's still is U6
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>>153351283
Post more Towa
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Why didnt goku ask whis to get future trunks. He is technically from U7. Goku is an asshole like the zeno samas I wouldn't be surprised if goku and the zeno samas get killed at the end of super.

Also why didnt all the gods just gang up and kill zeno and the grand piest for threatening to blow up their universes if they lost?
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>>153351356
>unfused SSJ goten/trunks were beating 18 handily
no they didn't.
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>>153351356
Goten and Trunks are just too immature.
Goku gave them a chance in the Buu saga but they just fucked around until they defused or were tricked.
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>>153351288
He's Rose, you can tell by the shaded in hair color and the flame sparks aura.
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You all are probably complaining, but I liked this episode. Just as consistent as last weeks. Idk what it is, but this arc just feels so fresh and different, from music, to artstyle, to tone, and even pacing. Just has me excited.
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Knowing this little tournament is probably going to be another 3 episodes by itself, how long is this entire arc gonna be?
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Anybody else laughed at Beerus yelling at Goku to take responsability like he got knocked up by Goku?
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>>153351272
>Dwarf is in his godly tavern, getting drunk
>Thought the universe fight was going to be a dog fight
>Brought Fido, Rex, and Fifi to show off his menagerie of badass hounds
>"...I dun goofed, that I did."
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>>153350956
I like it allot more. Here is hoping Toei will be consistent about it.
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>>153351379
That would be extremely dumb and I can't by Zamasu/Black doing that

>>153351383
I wanna Laugh like a crazy
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>>153351404
>They were double teaming 18
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>>153351186
>Towa
That would mean we get to see stuff after EoZ, so I'm okay with that.
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>Cash me outside
>How 'bout dah
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>>153351441

Grand Priest is arguably stronger than all GoD's combined. Zeno is likely a 40 to GP's 8-9
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>>153351393
its one on one fights Buu will fight then gohan or Goku get their fight
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>>153351441
why dont 12 cats attack a loin
>?
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>>153351356
That was because the two were fighting against her at the same time.

In a fair fight 18 would wreck their shit like she did it with SSJ Vegeta.
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>>153351460
I'd guess ~35 episodes
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>yfw there's a Kuriboh god
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>>153351235

Well, he could strongest among mortals, like Freeza was, so it wouldn't could makaioshins. There's also all the demon people becoming Demon Gods now in Heroes, something like that is a new development and wouldn't count there either. Mira also is basically demon Cell, so he dodges that statement.
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>>153351460
Rivals and friends are too different things, anon.
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>>153351487
I bet she likes to fuck entire planets into destruction in her universe
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>>153351487
Damn, she really looks like a fucking slut.
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>>153351393
Buu's going to sadistically beat the crap out of Basil to further solidify U7 as the villains to everyone else.
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>>153351436
I don't got anymore
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>>153351516
I wanna fuck that pink Kai
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>>153351401
He wasn't.
Goku only wanted to explore the world, eventually starting his own search of dragon balls to find the four stars one, and some moral shit got in the way during that journey.

Yeah, he did good things and beated a criminal organization, but they were only a obstacle for his objectives.
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HAHAHA THE WHOLE "GOKU IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING THE MULTIVERSE IN DANGER" WAS PLAYED FOR LAUGHS!!! LAUGHS!!!

CHARACTER DEVELOPMENTFAGS BTFO
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>>153351487
love the eyes
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>>153351436
Towa has man hands
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>>153351534
A-Ah dirty slut?
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>>153351441
>Why didnt goku ask whis to get future trunks. He is technically from U7

Trunks has been through a lot of shit, just let him live in peace in his new timeline.

>>153351441

>Also why didnt all the gods just gang up and kill zeno and the grand piest for threatening to blow up their universes if they lost?

They don't know what happens to the losers of the tournament yet and Zeno/Grand Priest are so above everyone else it doesn't matter if they rushed them all at once.
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>>153351450
I want to like this arc but Goku is even more of an unsufferable retard than he was for most of Super which was already a lot. and he is my favorite character ever. And now you have Goku being totally ok with causing the desctruction of 11 universes(regardless of which they might be).
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>>153351460
someone should add hit and ayyy
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>>153351538
If only he could access his purified form again. I really don't like Fat Buu.
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>>153351460
It's going to be really long. The opening is all about it and would need to be heavily reworked if they wanted to promote another arc within it - so this arc should be about DB Kai Namek or Cell Saga in length.
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>>153351516
Cute
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>>153351487
I hope the robot is extremely emotive and Egyptian goddess is completely cold and rational.
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>>153350851
>straight up died
Worse than that. Zeno erased the entire universe, afterlife included.
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>>153350510
>goku pretty much doomed all forms of life in all universes
Jesus fuck....
Zamasu was right.
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>>153351431
Why wouldn't she be Universe 6? Saiyans can only be from Universe 6 and 7 because they're counterpart universes.
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>>153350683
Bills destroyed a few planets with intelligent life at the start of Super.
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>>153351441
Nah, just leave Trunks and Mai alone. Their world is safe and they have nothing to do with Goku being a retard.
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Is Goku himself the final boss of Dragonball?
Do they ever explain how a race of monkeys can go toe to toe with literal Gods and win?
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>>153351568
I've accepted Toei Goku being a Flanderized jackass since Super started. It doesn't bother me anymore because I'm used to it
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>>153351551
Just wait til the other gods get the good news about the universes being deleted. Grand Priest already threw Goku at the wheels of the bus.
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>>153351551
Do you need a hug?
Are you scared like I am? Please, keep coming to this threads.
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>>153351247
>>153351407
Cool thanks
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>>153351562
I hope the rule34 brigade thinks so.
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>>153350695
I like her eyes
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>>153351603
Why respond to my post? Like, I'm not talking about a literal job or Beerus.
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>>153351618
Goku being a moron seems to be the focus of this arc and not just a "comedic" thing
Could be interesting if it actually goes anywhere.
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Gohan will get his shit rekt during this exhibition and the based Kais will have to unlock his potential all over again only this time Whis and Beerus will further the unlocking.
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>>153351180
The fact there's copies of them there will just be one of the gorillion reminders they will have to live with for the rest of their lives that THEY FUCKING FAILED.
They didn't get the good end. Just because they survived doesn't mean it's a good end for them, since everyone they knew and loved got literally killed and then erased from existence and now they are stuck in basically parallel-timeline where they are completely foreign.
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>>153351618
I mean, yeah, Goku not being the smartest and most educated of people is not 100% out of character, but there's a limit to how much you can use that and in just 2 episodes this saga passed it.
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>>153351441
>Why didnt goku ask whis to get future trunks. He is technically from U7.
So that they can give Gohan a rageboost again.
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>>153351609
anyone can become a literal god
anyone
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>>153351565
>Peace
Knowing his luck, he's in a universe right before the androids where they're even stronger than Black.
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>>153351601
She can be from U6 but she'll fight for U11 cause she was probably raised there The King or someone powerful sent her away as a child of she unlocked LSSJ that young and was a menace remember the U6 saiyans are a peaceful lot
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>>153351516
Kuriboh a cute.
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>>153351531
two* fuck I'm sleepy already
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>>153351501
The power scaling is ridiculous but considering how the super powerful characters are written it makes pulling a coup even harder. Whis called the grand priest dad. For all we know if the gods of destruction and fighters all assembled and decided to kill the grand priest or a zeno the fucking destruction god guardians would turn on them cause the grand priest is family.

Thats not even taking into consideration zeno's guards for all we know they could one shot a god of destruction.
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>>153351663
Yeah, Gohan even called him out on it
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>>153350707
Goku lie so Future Trunks could spend some quality time time with Vegeta.
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>>153351605
If U7 is completely erased they will still be okay?
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>>153351568
>but Goku is even more of an unsufferable retard than he was for most of Super which was already a lot. and he is my favorite character ever.
Are you me?
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>Alright, Yamcha. You're the strongest being on Earth while we're gone...
>Our numbers are on the fridge!
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>>153351659
Fuck, meant to quote >>153350686
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>>153351683
Nah, they went to a world that is just like the one they lost.
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>>153351677
>since everyone they knew and loved got literally killed
they are still alive, since they went back to their past ~2 years ago

It is not a foreign world in the slightest
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>>153351516
Friendly reminder that fat bastard can solo Goku and Vegeta
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>>153351707
Yes, its a different timeline.
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>>153351597
Right about what??
Fucker's want to kill all ningens, so i dont see a difference.

>B-but erasing isn't the same as being dead
It's the fucking same thing!!!
I they didn't had magic balls to revive people, this "erasing" plot wouldn't being a thing.
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>>153351436

>She literally had a child with her OC Donut Steel
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>>153351251
Nah, this is in spot on but in bigger levels. Goku is not evil and does care for his friends and family but he is overconfident and naive, he is innocent and pure but precisely for that sometimes he doesn't see the bigger picture and his decisions can being seen has selfish(Vegeta, not destroying the androids 3 years before, not destroying majin buu the first time). But he always tries to fix his mistakes(like here but it was too late) so now he is going to try to win for his universe.
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>>153351725
There's still Goten and Trunks assuming they don't got watch the tournament like with U6.
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Kissu <3
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>>153351725
Ejem Trunks,Goten, even Videl.
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>>153351707
Yes, when Future Zeno erased universes while killing Zamasu, the other timelines were fine.
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>it's another Supershitters defend the god awful characterization of Goku and/or the horrible art style/animation

This is why cancerous kids need to be shot. Also why we need to drop the anime and just fully support the manga. Toyotaro won't be having none of this.
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Do we know what universe the hipster Kaioshin is from?
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>just a few weeks until Gohan embarrasses himself in front of every god in the multiverse

Can't wait
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we know either Buu or Gohan will job but which one will it be
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>>153351813
Why are you watching this show again? Life is short, buddy. Go do something more worthwhile with your time if you don't like to watch it.
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>>153351401
Kid Goku was unambiguously good. Adult Goku was mostly heroic but had his moments like with sparing Vegeta. Super Goku flanderizes those moments and makes them almost the entirety of his character.
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>>153351801
Vanish
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>>153351764
Actually erasing is even worse than dying since you cease to exist, we have never seen if something that was erased can actually come back with the dragon.

Even so it's 99% probable that they will use the Super Dragon Balls to restore the other universes.
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>>153351677
It's not like that timeline could be saved anyway. Even if Zamasu didn't kill the survivors, they still wouldn't have DBs to undo the damage and all the gods were dead. The feeling of "failure" is thanks to Toei's shitty writing who decided adding survivors and a resistance was a good idea.
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>>153351801
Can I kiss her butt?
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I don't know what's worse Toei's shitty characterization of Goku or the retards that try and defend it.
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>>153351777
Towa is literally a DA user
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>>153351777
Towa is living the dream
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>>153351401
Goku spared Piccolo because Kami would have died if he killed him.
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>>153351460
thanks doc
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>>153351783
>But he always tries to fix his mistakes(like here but it was too late) so now he is going to try to win for his universe.
That's the thing though, that's not fixing his mistake. He just decided to stop trying to save the other universes and just his in the course of one episode and doesn't seem to have any remorse about it.

I mean, sure, its likely no universe ends up destroyed after the arc, but they aren't and likely won't build up to Goku doing it because he feels responsible.

>>153351804
>Videl
You've been on the Internet too much.
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Everything after the BoG movie was a mistake.
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>>153350700
He knew Zeno existed, he just didn´t knew how he looked like since he had never actually see him.

Him not knowing who Beerus is was restarded tho, suppossedly the Supreme Kais and the God of Destruccion have a meeting every 1000 years, and Shin has been a Supreme Kai for millions of years already, there is no way he wouldn´t know about Beerus.
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>>153351551
>raughs
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>>153351896
Looks like a giant tumor.
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>>153351804
Yamcha is way stronger than Videl unless he has gotten extremely weak, like back to his initial appearance level.

And Chichi is stronger than Videl.
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I don't like buu's nip voice.
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>>153350706
It's a batman reference
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>>153348792
Where the fuck did the key even go? her shirt is tiny and her chest is too small for a bra

>>153346677
That is the second cutest Kai i've ever seen. Loli of Time is best

>>153345538
Where do they post now?
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>>153351813
It's shitty if you were to compare it to Z or Toyo Goku but let's be real here, we're all just super happy to see DB on tv again and we should be al happy for that even if it's poor quality.
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>>153351813
Not even Toyo can change this. In the manga we had the famous kiss scene. Probably Goku is going to remind Zeno about the tournament, obviously he is going to look less selfish than in the anime but besides that is going to happen.
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>>153351777
Now she's a Demon Goddess so LIVING THE DREAM
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>>153351945
Agree. I loved the U6 arc but I don't think it was worth anything else.
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>>153350597
Yeah, that pink fuck should have been the one to handle zamasu.. inb4 he's lazy AF
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>>153351956
Hey again.
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I wonder how many episodes of training we'll get before the tournament begins

I hope we get to see everyone training and not just goku and vegeta
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>>153351460
Where's zeno?
Where's future zeno?
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>>153351813
I cant simply like Toyo's Goku.
This one feels like is trying to pandering too hard to the ones who complained about Toei's Goku personality, conveniently not doing the same errors.

If manga came first, i would gave you that point, but for now, that is my opinion.
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Honestly if you want Gohan to have any relevance going forward in the arc then he has to job here. He'll have his realization, train hard, and have a couple of cool moments before he jobs again.

If he wins here he jobs immediately in the tournament proper.
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>>153351993
?
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>>153351903
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>>153350906
>>153350800
But that's retarded because there's an infinite amount of space inside it, could have just said dende improved it like he did with the dragon
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>>153350624
we talken bout the episode before the most recent one? b/c hobbit image gets it
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>>153351783

I would be happy with just some fighters giving Goku/U7 shit mid match about this tourament happening because of him.

It feels like the idiocy is a plot point this time around as its being focused on much more than other sagas already (Beerus threatening Hakai, other Kais have already thrown shade at U7 for Goku being so casual with Zeno).
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>>153351933
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avYAtq10wk8

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLV95mafwm4
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>>153351401
Funny because it's true
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>>153352008
You can have the character have that realization and still win.
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>>153350597
Holy shit, he really is going Zamasu.

Does he hold a grudge for what happened to Zamasu?
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>>153351605
Trunks should be there...considering goku was there to hit the button to get zeno to delete zamasu

whis gave them a new home

mai would probably get erased if kid mai was destroyed

Also future trunks at the end of the goku black arc is pretty much stronger then vegeta placing him behind goku. If your entire universe is at stake would you rather have a weakass oldman like roshi on your team or some OP saiyan that could fight someone like goku black?
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My optimal end to this arc would be all Universes get merged into one, all major fighters' planets get put in the same solar system as Earth.

Hilarious shitstorm ensues.
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>>153351622
She at least does in this pic. Might just be the angle that makes it LOOK like there's cleavage though.

Maybe it was too hard to mod in? Or maybe the modder just really likes small chests
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>>153349261
I wouldnt say that. The other universes might just wish for something else.
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Was Goku this retarded in DBZ? or did the dubs edit out his retardation?
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Is Uub even canon?
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>>153352074
My optimal end is for Beerus to say fuck all of you and kill them all.
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>>153352067
>mai would probably get erased if kid mai was destroyed
That's not how this shit works, retard.
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>>153351891
That's what im saying.
If we hadn't the dragon ball's plot device, people wouldn't care about being erased is worser than being killed.
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>>153352021

>Goku didn't know this would happen
This is the worst excuse he and anyone can put, Beerus warned him hundreds of times. He just didn't listen.

Also, I'm starting to feel really bad for Zamasu, he was right all along, I hope they make Gowasu aware of this and acknowledge him.
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So 17 is gonna join the team because his beloved park and his family are going to get deleted thanks to Goku?
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>>153351487
That Angel looks like Legolas.
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>>153351911
>I'M A DEMON AND A PRINCESS AND DABURA'S SISTER AND I MADE A CELL BUT HE'S A HOT BLUE DEMON MAN WHO CAN GO SUPER SAIYAN AND WE GET MARRIED AND HAVE A BABY AND
And that's why I love her. Semen demon aside, she is the most fangirl.
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>>153352119
>Was Goku this retarded in DBZ?
Not that much, but I think the only retarded thing, or the most retarded in Z, was giving Cell a sensu bean.
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>>153352119
He was pretty fucking stupid during Cell and Buu as well. Giving cell a senzu, allowing Buu to hatch, not finishing buu when he could have.
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>>153352049
First is not canon. Can't compare.
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>>153352007
Toyo Goku did come before Super anime Goku. Did you conveniently forget that the manga was ahead of the anime up til Frost vs Goku in the U6 arc?
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>>153351783
>Someone saved my edit
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>>153351764
Zamasu still gave ningen their promised afterlife.
He wasn't erasing people, he was just killing intelligent lifeforms so they would stop polluting the natural beauty of the universe with their violence and imperfections.
Note how the arc made it explicitly clear that Zamasu didn't touch nature on Earth, only the human cities.
He himself explicitly stated he only killed the decadent gods (Kaioshin and by extension the Hakaishin) and ningens.

He didn't destroy nature, he didn't destroy planets, he didn't erase anyone, he certainly didn't touch the afterlife.

Meanwhile Zeno single handedly erased everyone in Trunks' timeline from existence, including the afterlife.
Future Gohan literally no longer exists, not even as a spirit.
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>>153352021
When you get Beerus pregnant you have to take responsability Goku.

You can't just leave and come back years later like you did with Chichi.
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>>153352142
As soon as I saw him I thought of Glorfindel. Dunno why him in particular.
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>goku wins the tournament
>uses super dragon balls to wish back fused zamasu because he's strong

According to you toei shills this would fit perfectly with gokus character.
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>>153352049
>this character could resist falling on water and one throw of another character with inconsistent power levels on material that is not only not canon but not even taken into account on Super
>therefore, lets ignore the multiple statements about Yamcha's strength during the story which include literally training with god's god
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>>153352043
Goku being overconfident as being said by Beerus, Whis, Vegeta and even Freezer.
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>>153352119
>Was Goku this retarded in DBZ?
No, Toei is fucking up his character in the DBS anime. Read the DBS manga.
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>>153352198
Beerus falls in love with Goku.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina (Whis) with the Saiyan's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls him, and is overjoyed to find out that he has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when Beerus recounts the previous day's confessions to Goku, he only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the Saiyan he called is not the same Saiyan he fell in love with. In fact, he doesn't exist in this universe at all. He is Kakarrot's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with the God of Destruction's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of his crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of LOVE.
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I love how the Grand Priest painted a huge target on Goku and Universe 7's back.
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>>153350597
what is zamasu style? or what do you mean by your comment?
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>>153352021
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>>153352111
Good point.
I wonder which Universe is going to be the dangerous one.
U6 and U7 would probably wish for bringing back the fallen universes, but I think U9 and the Clown universe might be after something else.
Also, Gowasu worries me. What if he wants to bring back Zamasu as a good apprentice or something like that? He is already with the same hairstyle as his fallen apprentice.
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>>153352067
Given the weird way timelines and universes work here, the sets of universes on the other timelines arent in danger, just 11 out of the set of 12 in the main timeline.
Future Trunks and Mai are safe from this.
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>>153352187
Hey bb, yu wunt some fuk?
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>>153352119
Dubs made him more intellingent and kind of a warrior of justice. Also gave him some corny cliched speeches. Goku doesn't give a damn about justice really.
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>Tournament has a point system
>There are both strong and weak guys on all universes.
>It doesn't matter if there's a strong guy that wins all his battles, if his/her teammates lose their fights the point system will fuck that universe.
Is this how having Roshi and Krillin on the team makes any kind of sense?
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>videl will never be a tomboy ever again
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>>153351894
>The feeling of "failure" is thanks to Toei's shitty writing who decided adding survivors and a resistance was a good idea.
But that's actually a good thing. I like the way the arc ended in that it wasn't a happy end.
What I didn't like was what happened before that, how Trunks kept pulling new transformations and powers out of his ass and how Vegetto got the biggest retcon nerf in history of this franchise.
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How strong do you guys think his regeneration is? Can Goku btfo him for good without using the Spirit Bomb?
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>>153352236
>he is gifted by a deus ex machina (Whis) with the Saiyan's phone number.
Goku is retarded to use a phone
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>people still sucking Zamasu's cock
if he could he'd make sure to destroy the afterlife or at the very least send all ningen to burn in HIFL
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>>153352211
>goku wins the tournament
>instead of wishing back everyone from all the other universes, he wishes king kai back to life

That is the ending that I want.
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>>153352211
Fused Zamasu was bullshit. Black was the real MVP
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Goku's first mistake was getting a second Zeno and putting him in that universe, I can tell that Grand Priest really doesn't like Goku, maybe they all realise Zeno's innocent nature and then this guy comes along and gives them a second Zeno.

Talk about scary.

Goku won't be destroyed by Zeno though, he shares his nature as well so he'll literally get away with his antics, much to the dismay of everyone else. It's called plot armour.
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>The smartest and most human Goku we ever saw was at the beginning of DBZ in the Raditz saga
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Lavender is going to end up being the strongest one right?
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>>153352261
Hairstyle. It's exactly like Zamasu's. Probably just an animation error though.
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>>153352119
He wasn't retarded at all, he just didn't have civilized know-how. Most people, including apparently Super writers, think that means he's stupid ignoring the multiple times he shows he's not in fights.
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>>153352264
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>>153350592
Yep. And all supposedly tension scenes are a joke with the retarded dialogue or the silly animation style or whatever it's called.
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>>153351742
Yeah except they are not the same people they knew, they are for all intents and purposes mirror images of them.
If they introduce themselves to those people, they will never be treated the same as the Trunks and Mai that are already present in that timeline. For the people in that timeline, our Trunks and Mai are foreigners. Much like Future Trunks was a foreigner to us in Cell saga.
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>>153352170
She and Mira are officially the Team Rocket of the games
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2 for 2 I actually laughed out loud for once
god i have to wait another week for this much goodness
The manga better start soon I wanna see new scenes
>>153351551
Based Toriyama. They've resorted to memeing now
>>153351744
and STILL looks so adorable how?
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>>153352067
He is probably starting a family right now. Not a good time to put himself in danger needlessly.
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>>153352281
>takes the dick once
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GOTEN IS A CHARACTER

I REPEAT, GOTEN IS A CHARACTER
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>>153352122
I guess? He was in the end of Z, but I have no clue how much of that has been ruled out by Super at this point.
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>>153350597

It seems that he was the only look who was looking at Goku while the rest were paying atention to Daishinkan.
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>>153352264
>goku to gohan
>I believe in you gohan you've got hidden power blablabla

Inb4 U7 is about to get wiped, goku gets killed by beerus who flips out and gohan gets an unprecedented asspull and toriyama gets lazy and writes in zeno as cell character and gohan goes berserk and kills zeno
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>>153352335

Bergamo was supposedly the "middle brother" so its a possibility
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>>153352376
>GOTEN
who?
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>>153352355
Bulma and Vegeta accepted Future Trunks as their son and Goku and co all treat the two of them as friends even though they're not from the same timeline. Trunks and Mai will be fine.
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>>153352122
He appears in the manga so yeah.

>>153352407
Super can't rule out anything.
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>>153352376
We went over this in the episode of this week retard
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>>153350510
Nah, Big Papi will run up on that bitch ass furry
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>>153352293
>But that's actually a good thing. I like the way the arc ended in that it wasn't a happy end
But that's useless if none of the characters (other than Trunks and Mai) felt sad about what happened to the other timeline.
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>>153350844
>kamitube

the literally say GODDO TUBE in the show you fucking weeb
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>>153352236
10/10
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>>153352376
are you talking about Goku 2?
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>>153351829
what if in a surprising turn of events neither of them jobs?
I mean, those wolf guys don't really seem like a big deal
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>>153352276
The fact that my reaction pic is a girl doesn't mean I'm a girl, anon
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>>153352050
His fightlust wasn't full active until he passed puberty
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>>153352132
>I hope they make Gowasu aware of this and acknowledge him.
Well, he IS wearing Zamasu's hairstyle now.
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>>153352456
Next you'll tell me it's not called Dragon Ball Chou.
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>>153352433
It already has.
>Goku and Bulma both say they haven't seen each other in 5 years because Goku has been on training trips
>Super is 4 years from EoZ right now
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>>153351140
Time Patrol baby!
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>>153352305

Goku literally could super kamehameha buu into obivion as SSB.
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>>153352293
>What I didn't like was what happened before that, how Trunks kept pulling new transformations and powers out of his ass and how Vegetto got the biggest retcon nerf in history of this franchise.

It is Dragon Ball, man. That is only natural.
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I haven't really been watching Super. Has Gohan trained at all?
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>>153352122
Goku's last speech to Kid Buu makes him eternal canon.
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>>153352316
Holy shit, this would be fucking gold
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>>153352497
The other anon asked whether Uub is canon. Any overrule should happen on canon material.
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>>153352490
Buu is gonna fuck that furry hard
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>>153352480
My dick doesn't care
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>>153351140
We still have the 6 Universes destroyed by Zeno and the Demon Realm, full of Makaioshin.
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>>153352490
I bet most other univereses don't have a fighter that can put down Buu
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>>153352305
Mystic Gohan had enough power to overcome Super Buu regen, so DBS Goku can vanish Buu with no problem.
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>>153352503
Actually it isn't. The problem with Trunks's transformation is that it was the ONE time it confirmed what people on the Internet who havent bothered with DB, like you, think about DB.
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>>153352523
He will job next episode.
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>>153352427
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>>153352122
Uub was mentioned before the U6 tourney. Goku told Vegeta Buu had been reborn and Vegeta got pissed because a child is fucking useless to them
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>"Nothing" is the prize. What is "Nothing" remains to be seen...

U7 is actually fucked if they win, right?
This "Nothing" can't be something nice.
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>>153352602
What a waste of potential. Fuck Toriyama for screwing this up.
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>Goku goes ssjb
>every god of destruction now know how strong universe 7 is
>they all start trying to train their fighters
>Champa trains these 2 personally
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>>153352523
Yes.
He isn't ultimate yet but the new intro implies he might be soon.
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>>153352514
The clown is probably going to talk to goku behind everyones back and brainwash goku into threatening the grand priest and getting everyone killed

>the real ending to everything in dragonball, no more dragonball afterwards
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>>153352340
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>>153352316
>yfw all that build up with King Kai complaining about being dead leading up to that

I would kek
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>>153352185
What's the point then of doing both Goku's so different right if there only "1 canon"?
Toei's should have Toyo's help with the actual plot, but we still see the "retarded Goku" every mangafags hate.

And about the manga-anime comparison is a little hard to explain, but is mostly like this:

Right now, manga is behind the anime, so Toyo can see what things the fans didn't liked about anime and adapt his vision of Goku to that.

If we had the traditional manga-anime relationship, we wouldn't even have this discussion, but Toei wanted to keep milking this shit as fast as they could and eventually made us reach to this point.
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>>153352602
oh, you mean Gotenks' right nut
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>>153352176
Goku was arguably one of the smarter characters in both of those arcs.

>Cell
He gave cell a senzu, yeah, but that's because he assumed gohan wanted a good fight like he wanted as a kid. He still had a full bag of beans in case shit went south too, so it's not like there was any issue until cell revealed he could just pop out miniature versions of himself partway into the fight.

>Buu
Letting buu get revived was justified by pride reasons and assuming there's no way he'd be all that amazing since everyone else on babadi's side was a disappointment.

Even though goku assumed he could finish buu, the likelihood that buu would be put into a position during the fight to let him is pretty low. Buu's regen is too hard to gauge and the fat buu fight would've been game over for goku (and everyone else) if he tapped into his power, since fat buu's max during the arc is equivalent to super buu's, and if goku lost there, no one would know fusion and everyone would be fucked. Not trying to kill him was actually the safer move considering goku's time limit.
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>Goku acting all chill in front of these divine beings
>Mr. Satan is the voice of reason and has to tell Goku not to act like manchild in front of gods

Someone better put that monkey down, he's a menace to us all.
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>>153352549
Don't be a dick with females (males) !
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>goku recognizes Champa but not Gowasu

Zamasu was right all along.
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>>153352456
Why are you lying on the internet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf5lE_noOt4
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>>153352628
But he has an actual character now, they're fixing him. There's no fixing Gohan.
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>>153352618
They get locked up in the Realm of Nothingness as a trophy and reminder of the Tournament of Power. They themselves become a big trophy, while the Realm of Nothingness they are in is reduced to the size of a small ball of some kind that Zeno can peek into whenever he wants.
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>>153352665
More like Trunks' power-up.
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>>153352669
>He gave cell a senzu, yeah, but that's because he assumed gohan wanted a good fight like he wanted as a kid.

So pretty fucking stupid for not knowing his son at all.
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>>153352589
(You).
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>>153352658
Someone explain the Champa thing, did he collect the super dragon balls for the grand priest?
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>>153352647
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>>153352523
One episode he said he wanted to train again, also he wanted to enter in the tournament vs Champa's universe, in today's episode he said he doesn't fight anymore and refused to enter in the new tournament at first.

Fuck that inconsistent character.
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>>153352714
(You)(You)
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>Buu eats/absorbs Basil
>Gohan gets enraged by Lavenda when Gohan starts getting viciously beaten by him and he remembers Pan and Videl, causing him to cripple Lavenda
>Goku utterly curbstomps Bergamo and disrespects him for how weak he is before knocking him out with a hard blow to the head
>Zeno is utterly delighted by the brutality and chooses to destroy Universe 9 in front of everyone to reveal the rules of the tournamant
>Everyone is shocked and disgusted with the other Universes wanting Goku dead
>Goku starts shaking and everyone thinks he is crying or scared with all of the Gods taunting him and calling for his head but soon realise that he is shaking with laughter
>"This tournament will be the greatest one yet! I can't wait to defeat all of you!"
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>>153351548
>Unsure if girl or boy
>I do not care.
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>>153352712
To be fair, it's kinda hard to know his son in any other context when the only time he spent with him since he was a small child was spent training and fighting
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>>153350592

>Goku ends winning
>Use Super Dragon Balls to restore all the other universes
>Zeno-sama suddently notices he's undoing what he did
>He destroys all the universes again
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>>153352710
his vitamin
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>>153352721
I think he was collecting them for himself, and the Grand Priest commandeered them.
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>the other universes dont know they are going to be erased yet

This going to be good.
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>>153352669
>Letting buu get revived was justified by pride reasons
So it wasn't justified at all
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>>153352281

She is top waifu now
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>>153352549
I-i'm not into that kind of stuff, anon
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>>153351538
Nah man Buu is going to turn Basil to candy and eat him.
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>>153352561
I honestly don´t know how could someone defeat him without killing him, unless you vaporize him there is no way to put him down.
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>>153352503
>That is only natural.
No it isn't. Every single transformation in the series so far has been previously foreshadowed, named and acknowledged, same goes for powers.
Trunks literally pulls a new form out of his ass, a form that can be as strong as SSJ2, SSJ3 or SSJB depending on plot demands and thus super fucking inconsistent AND also pulls of Genki Dama, subconsciously, without ever being taught the technique by Kaio AND makes a magic sword out of it.

The last 2 or so episodes of Zamasu arc were nothing but literal shitshow in terms of plot and execution.
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>>153352749
It's funny because that could happen
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>>153352316
I would die of happiness and laughter
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>>153352775
Yeah it was. Vegeta wasn't gonna let it go. He was gonna stand in the way no matter what. Goku had to fight him.
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>Get Dodon Ray in Xenoverse 2
>Can't hit a fucking thing even at point blank range
No wonder Tien stopped using this garbage
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>>153352749
Someone needs to stop Zen-chan
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Why do I get the feeling Zen-chan is going to erase my new husbando right after the match is over?
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>>153352773
>all the other universes will blame Goku
>if they even try to erase him before Zeno sees him fight, Zeno will be pissed
THERE IS NOTHING ANYBODY CAN DO
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>The Dark Super Saiyan was first used by Broly. This technique takes you to a new crazy level of a Super Saiyan! A Dark Super Saiyan has powers way past regular Super Saiyan, but unlike the regular there are some side effects. To begin to achieve this mode your heart must be black, soulless, unforgiving, and ruthless. The only thing you would ever want to achieve this form is death and destruction! This attack also may alter your personality for good! Dark Super Saiyan is one of the most strongest Super Saiyan forms ever!
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>>153352761
>Even Zen-Oh-Sama will be blown away!
>yfw it turns out this lyric is a spoiler and Goku literally blows Zeno away
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>>153352316
Underrated post
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>>153352681
Don't tell me what to do
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>>153352653
>What's the point then of doing both Goku's so different right if there only "1 canon"?
There really isn't 1 canon though, I mean the manga is MORE canon if you were to compare, but the anime has it's own sunday morning cartoon continuity of it's own.
It is true however that right now the manga is behind in schedule and I could see him retroactively adding lines like not forgetting the senzu beans.
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>>153352701
>But he has an actual character now, they're fixing him.
Honestly asking, why do you say that? He didn't do much so far and he's not on the arc's team.
He had a cute story in Ep 1 and liked how he instructed Goku in the last episode but that's not much.
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>>153352854
the word does not mean blow away it means to be surprised
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Let's face it lads. Goku can't win this time.
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>>153352810
>Buu is going to turn Basil to candy and eat him
>Furry Buu
I don't know if I want this or not
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>>153352824
killing isn't against the rules though
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>>153352825
Super Saiyan 3 was in no way foreshadowed
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So how many universes can we expect to have GOD tier fighters like SSB and I guess whatever the alium is? Or are we just going to get a shitshow where every universe has at least one or two?
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>>153352723
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>>153352907
You have no way of knowing that, you retard.
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>>153352316

Now if we don't have this ending I will be disapointed.
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>>153350567
I thought he would be angry or sad when he found that out

He literally does not give a single shit

Its shameful how stupid and moralless Super Goku is

I havent read the manga but I might switch to it, I am sick of this dumbass Goku
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>>153352490
>chocolate beam fatality when

everyone would shit there pants watching buu turn someone into chocolate and eat them with no fucks given
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>>153352825
>SSJ3
>foreshadowed
you keep using that word
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>>153352749
You know if they threw out the weakasses like roshi, krillin, tien or piccolo, and replaced them with arale, future trunks, and frieza the U7 team could probably curbstomp everything
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>>153352937
The wolf guys are renowned poison users.
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>>153352907
It was in previous tournament, I assume this one will have the same rules.
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>>153352887
I want Cabba to fuck this Saiyan
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>>153352927
1 or 2 at max obviously
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>>153352911
Not him bit yeah, it wasn't. SSJ3 served a purely narrative purpose and wasn't asspulled anyways.
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>>153352279
>Goku doesn't give a damn about justice really
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>>153352965
>Its shameful how stupid and moralless Goku is

FIFY, my friend.
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>>153352749
>>Buu eats/absorbs Basil
Would he get pink fur or something? Will he still look like bubblegum or will he become a furry?
Perhaps the answer is he'll look like Neko Majin.
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>>153352937
they said "fight until some one either gives up or can't fight anymore"
there is no rule about ring outs or killing
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>>153352824
If you beat him up for enough time with enough force he'll eventually run out of stamina. Just like when Kid Buu pushed his shit in.
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>>153352800
Ok then, I will go somewhere else.
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>>153352911
Yeah it was. By Goku vs Yakon and by Goku revealing he had new tricks he learned in the other world via the unveiling of Fusion.
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>>153353005
>you killed enough innocents!
>...and kurrurin!!!

What did he mean by this?
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>>153353005
But he lets him get away...
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>>153352927


Theres Vegeta tier SSB, and then there is Goku.

Goku tier is probably Hit, Ayylmao, and maybe one more surprise character. Every universe might have one or two fighters tgat are at least stronger than Gohan
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>>153352827
>Universe 11 is disgusted by it and Ayy Lmao vows to destroy Son Goku for the sake of justice
>Everyone is gunning for Universe 7 and its destruction
>Goku just keeps on defeating everyone one after another with Ayy Lmao being the last bastion of hope, but he ultimately falls
>The Gods of Destruction choose to fight Goku when Goku achieves "Insert power up"
>Goku crushes them all, not even the angels stand a chance
>the Universe 7 Fighters try to speak reason into Goku's head but he just defeats them all non lethally
>Final fight is The Grand Priest with Goku managing to defeat him after a long battle
>The Attendants are blown away
>Goku goes to fight what he thinks are the strongest of all Universes, the Zeno Twins but it turns out they are simply afraid naive little children who are fragile and weak outside of their reality warping powers
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>>153353029
Pink fur, with all the body identical to Basil except the face
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>>153351318
>>153351333
17 and 18 were far stronger than ssj vegeta. I doubt goten and trunks have surpassed ssj vegeta yet.
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>>153350567
The episode was enjoyable except for Goku. He really brought it down. Not even the most autistic worm on earth is as stupid as Super Goku. Being naive and believing in the goodwill of a god is one thing, but the fact that he doesn't care even AFTER he knows the stakes... jfc. Makes me wish Gohan became the main character instead, but they would probably ruin him too.

You know something's wrong when even Mr. Satan has more sense than you.
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>>153352865
You asked this
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>>153353055
Krillin did some shady shit in Las Vegas
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>>153352887
Momo's super saiyan mode is the best
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>>153353005
He was just mad about Krillin. He give zero fucks for the people that Vegeta and Nappa killed around the universe.
>>
Fresh off the press.
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>>153353005
I think it was more about Kurrurin in that moment.
Hell, we are talking about the same guy who wanted to spare Frieza the 2nd time they fought.
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>>153352927
U7 has 2.
U6 has 1(that we know).
So probably around that.

It makes sense though, this is an entire universe and, like U7's team there will obviously be varied power tiers on each team. It would make no sense if all but U6 and U7 were suddenly god fighters.

>>153353005
>posting an actual manga page
>not basing youre entire perception of DB on Toriyama interviews and internet memes
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>>153352891
He hasn't really done anything but he's shown he has motivation to train and get strong like his father. He's smart enough to ask to go train with the guy his father trains with. Even a few episodes back when they thought Goku had died, Goten wanted to get revenge for his father.
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>>153353055
That Krillin wasn't innocent, obviously.
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>>153353069
Go make a youtube thumbnail out of it.
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>>153352911
>>153352977
Yakon fight.
Goku explicitly says he learned some new tricks in the afterlife where he trained with tireless body.
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>>153353055
Krillin was the one who his death made him transform, now Goku had to pay him avenging him from Frieza
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>>153350761
Is the good fat kai still inside this buu? Can he get out?
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>>153353114
>those Egyptian lips of Destrucction
nice
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>>153352490
Polished Tate, huh? Can't wait to see what he's going to do with Buu.
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>>153350828
>Evil Buu never left.
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>>153353105
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>>153353133
>he has motivation to train and get strong like his father
And Goku basically told him to fuck off into bolivian with Trunks.
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>>153353114
WE
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>>153353103
Is her name really Momo? That is a cute name.
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>>153352935
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>>153353141
I would need some elite Islamic fan artists to help me with that Anon, my artistic skills are just too bad.
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>>153353133
Well, that's nice, yeah, but I'd like them doing something more relevant with him. It was a waste not putting the kids on the team.
>>
Anyone else liking this new "Style" they are using for this arc?
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>>153353125
I wouldn't be surprised if Cabba has one of the God forms now. With a planet full of righteous Saiyans he really has no excuse not to.
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>>153353114
I can't see her not having fans
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>>153352279
>Goku doesn't give a damn about justice.
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>>153350761
Gohan really has to fuck off with those glasses
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Why is Gohan wearing his glasses with the turtle school gi?

Can he not see well now?
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>>153353197
Momo is a character from My Hero Academia
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>>153353202
>my artistic skills are just too bad.
Perfect. Now do it.
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>>153352456
Please stop lying
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I know the Super Dragon Balls can grant "any" wish, but can they really restore things that are erased from existence?

Because it's painfully obvious that Goku's going to wish for all the universes to be restored.
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>>153353213
It's funny how one quote about Akira wanting Goku to be a selfish hero and people completely disregard all the heroic stuff that Goku has done.

The DB fanbase truly is cancer.
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>>153353213

Revenge is not justice my friend.
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>>153353235
Wish FemBroly actually had such a delicious body, though.
All they have in common is the somewhat similar hairstyle.
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>>153353189
Goku was gonna take him to train with Whis but they got cockblocked by Chichi and Kid Trunks.

Kid Trunks really is the worst.

>>153353197
No, it's the name of a My Hero Academia character that looks very similar
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>>153352456
doesnt it say both
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>>153350828
>Buu absorbs everybody
>Buu is the true villain of the arc
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>>153353197

God I love this female sayian.
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>>153353187
>>153353105
Goku is just very patriotic about his Universe and in particular his planet and its people, the other Universes are utter trash that exist purely for his blood sports.
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GT Remake anon here again, posting a sketch I did showing Trunks and Goten.
I figure since Trunks has met his future self in Super, he would probably end up learning swordplay at some point from being inspired by Future Trunks.
Also like somebody said in the last thread, Mai will be a part of the space adventure team. I think this adds a lot to GT in that there is now a romantic element to the main cast.
Also Goten and Bra will also be tagging along. Oob will probably stay on Earth to give Goku something to punch since he won't be tagging along this time.
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>>153353190
WUZ
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>>153353230
because intelligent characters have to wear glasses
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>>153353213
>Yes, yes, well done saiyans... HOWEVER
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>>153350924
It seems like the Gods will still live? Shin said he would just be ashamed, so I guess he would survive somehow?
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>>153353178

>evil buu comes back

Literally the most interesting thing that could happen right now
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>>153353114
Eww
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>>153350761
kinda like this artstyle desu
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>>153350909
>Goku: Super Hitler of a race of violent monkeys

>Vegeta: Son of a tyrant king, prince of a race of violent monkeys, destroyer of worlds and slaver up until 10 years ago where he banged Bulma and calmed down

>Buu: Remorseless autistic monster. Mass murderer. Sadistic. Can only be distracted with candy so he doesnt kill everyone.

>Gohan: Son of Super Hitler, goes in destructive berserker rages sometimes.

>18/17: Mass murderers. They did it for fun. Never felt or showed remorse in later years

>Roshi: Sexual predator, should be in jail

>Piccolo: Demon king. Mass murderer.

>Ten Shin Han: Assassin from a lineage of corrupt and evil martial artists. Fucks a child mime.

What a nice group of people you brought Goku! What a cool universe you have there!
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>that moment when you realize that the other universes were introduced for the sole purpose of being vaporized by this arc
By the end of this, its going to be like nothing even happened. Who gives a fuck what happens to these fodder universes?
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>>153353240
Being ugly.
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>>153353213
>Before Super Saiyan
>I'm going to destroy you!
>After Super Saiyan
>take some energy so you can escape and we can fight again
The Super Saiyan transformation was the thing that corrupted Goku
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>>153353285
>God Buu, the Endless Pit of Destruction
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>>153353178
Well it looks like U7 will need a replacement this fucker will end up going insane and beerus will have to hakai buu or goku will kamehema the fucker
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>>153353266
He's literally doing it out of justice to all the innocents and races that Frieza killed.

He has no personal beef in this at all.
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>>153353240
to steal gokus body after watching his god tier strength
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>>153353307
Gods aren't bound to any universe, I suppose.
I think they are just assigned to one Universe.
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>>153353240
The better question is what does it matter his universe brought furfags. Goku being a perpetual idiot aside I sincerely hope that before this exhibition match is over he makes all of the GoD's and Kai's jaws drop by showing off his power level.
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>>153352968
I can't wait for them to find out that Buu eat some gods.
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>>153353298
GODS OF DESTRUCTION
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>>153351829
The furries, man.
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>>153353318
Did 18/17 kill anyone in this timeline?
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>>153352887
best girl
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>>153353327
He let Piccolo Jr go and shit too if that counts.
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>>153353318
Did present 17 and 18 actually kill anyone? They spent most of their time dicking around the countryside in a van.
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>>153353088
That's not going to stop me
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Feels good man
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>>153353324

Let me spoil the entire Dragon Ball plot for you

Goku wins*

*= except Cell, where Goku won by proxy
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>>153350828
Hey, Red Knot Furfag is cute.
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>Story group
>Broly is canon
>Super is going to reach Uub at some point
>Super is going to then going to redo GT
>Super is going to get to Dragon Ball Online
I cannot wait friends
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>>153353285
Might as well rip off DBM for real at this point
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>>153353206
What are you talking about? Nothing changed character design or animation wise. They just add a shitty color filter and applied a line processing that destroy details.
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>>153353285

>Buu absorbs all of the GoDs
>Kills Zeno.
>Becomes new god of all verses
>Turns everyone and everything into chocolate.
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>>153353379
I think only Future 17 and Future 18 killed people.
Present ones didn't.
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>>153353324
Me and my furry friends, so shut up your dirty mouth
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>>153352602
>Buu saga shows that ChiChi is more lenient with Goten, allowing him to train unlike Gohan
>Super
>ChiChi treats Goten the same as Gohan and makes him study all the time instead of getting to train

At least the sex seems good
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>>153350909
>>153350965
>Beerus is gonna be pissed.
at this point. he knows he should of just HAKAI'd him
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Majin Buu will act stupid and bore Zeno, then get erased

I wish I could erase the 5 captchas I have to solve to post
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>>153353379
Didn't they kill those cops when 18 stole those clothes or some shit?
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>>153350865
Gt ends with a 100 year time skip, so another series could happen, but it pretty conclusively won't have goku.
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>>153350924
In that case the universe with the mouse god of destruction will survive. Smaller and dumber looking character=stronger
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>>153353318
>Fucks a child mime.
Actually he's a chinese vampire. A very stereotypical one at that so there's 0 doubt.
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>>153353264
true I hope despite the casuals being louder I hope the sane ones don't leave
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In Dragon Ball he loved to fight and would put himself in danger to fight stronger people, but would never endanger his friends

In Dragon Ball Z he started being far more risky with his friends, starting with sparing Vegeta (though this is less egregious, since it can be argued that Goku felt some loyalty to the Saiyan race and/or could sense the potential for good in Vegeta). When it gets to Freiza and Cell there's no excuse though. At the very least he seems to at least have some remorse for endangering his friends with those actions.

In Dragon Ball Super he's outright retarded and incredibly selfish. Fuck, not even "selfish" really describes it properly, since Beerus is almost certainly going to use Hakai on Goku as soon as the tournament is over - Goku is just fucking insane at this point
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>>153353264
God's word. Just like Lucas he does what he wants
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>>153353318
Man if only we had some sort of like, ragtag duo that are innocent children that just enjoy fighting but have high morals and don't want other people to die or be erased that could act as the beacon of light for Universe 7...

mfw Goten and Trunks show up at the tournament in the final round when Goku is about to be killed and they manage to convince Ayy Lmao to stop and get the Zeno's to cease the tournament and bring everyone back to life
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>>153353379
Well, they didn't give a shit when Vegeta blew up that truck if that counts.
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>>153353451
>The Dark Super Saiyan was first used by Goku. This technique takes you to a new crazy level of a Super Saiyan! A Dark Super Saiyan has powers way past regular Super Saiyan, but unlike the regular there are some side effects. To begin to achieve this mode your heart must be black, soulless, unforgiving, and ruthless. The only thing you would ever want to achieve this form is death and destruction! This attack also may alter your personality for good! Dark Super Saiyan is one of the most strongest Super Saiyan forms ever!
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>>153353414
>Was Pudding really worth all this?
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>>153353439
Unless it's Goku Jr
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>>153353416
Are you using legacy captcha?
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>>153353373
>>153353379
They killed a bunch in their trip
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>>153353451
Super Goku is Midlife Crisis Goku.
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>>153353389
That was only the warm-up
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>>153353451
Flanderization ruins a lot of long running series.
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>>153353416
If Buu got erased in the exhibition match, then they would've been advertising someone else in his spot for the actual tournament.
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>>153352752
This nigga know what's up
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>>153353399
RedKnot will get MAJIN'D next episode in front of everybody and will end up a disgrace
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17 WHEN
WHEN 17

HE NEEDS TO BEAT THE FURRY UNIVERSE

BEAT THEM LIKE RUGS
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>>153353430
They fell off road and survived.

The present androids have 0 kills.
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>>153351083
As far as everyone knew at that point Gohan and Vegeta were dead and Goku had to go back to the land of the dead soon. They were the only ones left at the time.
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>>153352279
>Goku doesn't give a damn about justice.

Did you not read the Frieza saga? He saw Frieza as a threat to the universe and wanted to stop him.
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>>153353327
He was just being merciful, it's different from when he let Vegeta go just because he wanted to fight him

>>153353377
if he killed Piccolo, Kami would die too
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>>153353334

He wanted to fight Freezer since he was in the god damn ship. My gosh he was hyped as fuck when Kaito told him NOT to fight.
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>>153350510
I was expecting Buu to throw a tantrum. Kinda intimidating that he's keeping his cool.
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>>153353049
Just kidding I wanna fuck
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>>153351083
No fusion.

At least with Buu they'd be retardedly powerful to mask their childlike antics. With the tourney Goku is way above what the kids could ever be so they don't have a huge power advantage anymore so they're useless to him and aren't a last resort anymore.

And again, last resort since they were all that's left. Goku was going bye bye.
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I grew up with the dub. What's all this about Goku actually being selfish and irresponsible? Aren't you supposed to be a pure saint to use the genki dama?
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I wish we could get Kid Buu or Super Buu as the good Buu. And no, I don't mean Uub.
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>>153353513
I'd still pet him.
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>>153353463
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>>153352316
topkek
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>>153353528
King Kai really needs to keep his mouth shut
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Will the Hakaishin fight each other?

I hope so, especially considering their lives are at stake and they can't only rely on the mortal contestants.
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>>153353518
>We will have to wait until the exhibition is over to get 17
It hurts.
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>>153351083
It was kind of a different situation back then since everyone was kind of dead/assumed dead.
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>>153351140
I thought Super would be the usual narrative depicting the trifles of life now that the literal Gods of the universe have sought to be very hands on in mortal matters

The Zamasu saga would have been the perfect jumping off point for this given it followed the line of the idea of Gods ultimately being self absorbed but they keep dropping the ball with tournaments because I assume they need to be somewhat consistent with End of Z so there can't be any real, consequential threats

So Super just feels largely inconsequential altogether

I don't think anyome really knows where they want to go with it
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>>153353413
I can't believe people fapped to that.
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>>153353553
what is going on here
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>>153353295
Looks good anon. You have to draw smaller ears though, try using reference pics from the manga (or even pics from real people).
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>>153353318
Well this is coming full circle, the heros of justice who are all devious people get their entire universe destroyed. It is a "kids show" so they will use this arc to teach kids a lesson I guess
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Why would Zeno be impressed by the fighters' strength and speed if he is 1000000000 times faster and stronger?
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>>153353504
>flanderization

Now, that is going too far. Goku is just passing through what we call "becoming fucking retarded as you grown older".
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>>153353485
They were worth it.
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>yfw Ayy lmao and Gohan team up to put down Goku
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>>153353498
That made me think of something: what if Buu and Gohan win their fights and the match against U9, and then Goku wants to fight so the clown god reveals that alien under the cloak in order to have another exhibition match?
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NEW THREAD NOW
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>mfw Ayy Lmaoo uses a Genki Dama powered by 11 universes to try to kill Goku
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>>153353416
>Majin Buu will act stupid and bore Zeno, then get erased
Implying that wont entertain the fuck out of him. Plus look at the stage in the preview. Shit is happening.

Nobody is getting erased. Zenno is going to be entertained. This shit is basically filler.
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if anyone can make a dragon ball super discussion thread without the bots memes and spam id be happier
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>After Tournament
>Goku won and got stronger and unlocked a new form in the process
>Zeno go away to their own shit and so on
>Beerus, finally alone with Goku, decides to put down the rabid monkey

>Beerus uses Hakai
>BUT IT FAILED
>Goku grew too stronk.
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>>153350652
No. the tournament winner gets to choose their wish, not their patron GoD or Kaioshin
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>Be U7
>Get Buu to absorb every serious fighter
>You now have a fighter that could probably curbstomp Whis with zero effort

As Vegeto said, absorbing an enemy makes you stronger, but willingly combining together is far more powerful since the minds and body aren't fighting it. Mr. Gobuugetahanenksolloliniencha would be fucking unstoppable.
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What is more canon Dragon Ball Minus or Bardock – The Father of Goku?
Is The History of Trunks canon and if so when should i watch it when watch Kai?
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>>153353513
>and will end up digested

fixed
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Goku was okay with the fact that Cell used to drink people alive. In just he even gave him a senzu bean.
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>>153353550
he wont feel better unless his universe wins. and lets be honest, the Furiverse doesnt stand a ghost of a chance
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>>153353596
"Jar Jar is the key to all of this"
It's a reference to the fact that his initial plan was to make Jar Jar the "Phantom Menace" but was later scrapped for Ep 2.
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>>153353409
this is not any worse than having Zeno as the big boss
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>Buu will turn a dog into chocolate


POTTERY
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>>153353649
Minus and Trunks manga are the canon ones.
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>>153353590
Everyone has done that.
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>>153353451
>would never endanger his friends

>always asking yajirobe and bulma and Krillin to go to these crazy places

>or could sense the potential for good in Vegeta

are you serious?
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>>153352490
"Someone who's never seen Dragon Ball explain this picture."

>>153352316
Fucking this.
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>>153353649
Minus

History of Trunks has some inconsistencies with the manga (Trunks was already a Super Saiyan, 17 killed Gohan himself) but there's no reason not to watch it if you want. It's good.
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>>153353537
Too late, now I'm looking for a cute girl (girl) instead of a cute girl(male)
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>>153353647

BUT I WANNA BEAT THEM WITH OWN POWER CAUSE I'M AUTISTIC

t. Goku

I seriously hate how weak and irrelevant they made Buu.

He could literally just absorb whoever he's fighting and win automatically.
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>>153353451
If I remember correctly he was even happy to stop Baba's tournament when Roshi showed up if he could convince her to show them the last dragon ball, because he cared more about reviving his friend's father than he did about fighting whoever was in Baba's team

Now he doesn't give a shit that several entire universes are about to get completely erased.
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>>153353525

And 8 minutes later he spared him.
TWICE.
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>>153353649
With DB you have two options. Either the manga is the only canon thing or you shouldn't give a shit about canon.

"Minus" is a story by DB's original creator so there's that.
The Bardock special is widely accepted to be canon for no real reason but it doesn't realyl cotnradict anything....except that if you consider that canon so is the sequel that makes no sense.

As for HoT it is canon, its based on a manga special chapter with a bit more content.
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>>153353597
Thanks for the feedback! Yeah the ears are a bit big. Will fix that now
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>>153351601
No one said the species are only in the pairs of universes, that makes no sense.
The reason u6 had a saiyan and a member of friezas race is because their society was the twin. Saiyans were a merc force, notfrieza was their boss.
In other universes, there would be the same races, but less likely that they'd fill those roles and thus, not be powerful.
It's entirely possible that u11 saiyans only have lssj power ups.
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>>153353649
>Is The History of Trunks canon
It was in the manga so yes. The only difference is that in the manga, Trunks gets SSJ by training with Gohan, in the special he only unlocks it when he finds Gohan dead.
I think the special did it better.
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>>153353649

There needs to be more videl in spandex.
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>>153353649
Minus is sadly canon. The Special is way better.

Manga Trunks is canon, but the special is pretty much the same in terms of the broad strokes.
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>>153353670
> his initial plan was to make Jar Jar the "Phantom Menace"

What the fuck?
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>>153353718
Was Buu always this dumb speaking of which? To the point where he's totally useless unless Satan is telling him what to do?
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>>153353656
fucking this, goku is a madman
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>>153353525

>He saw Frieza as a threat to the universe and wanted to stop him.

Because his friends were in danger. If that were truly the case where Goku wanted to stop him, he would have killed him. But instead he spared Freeza TWICE on Namek with the first being when he was bored fighting Freeza and the second time when Freeza was cut in half where he gave some of his ki over to him. It was only after Freeza attempted to kill again where Goku finally blasted the fuck out of him.

Also Freeza was around for countless decades before Goku was born. The entire universe wasn't in danger unless it was a planet that Freeza wanted. Freeza didn't go to each galaxy out there, he only had a total of 80+ planets under his control.
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>>153353649
>>153353691
>>153353713
>>153353741

Time to post sad Goku
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>>153353590
Fuck you dude, ChiChi is fucking hot in it.

Also i'm willing to bet it give many people an incest and/or /ss/ fetish.

Even you
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>>153353413
Y E A

G
A
L
O S E N G E N
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>>153353712
As much as I like happy fighting Buu, I hope we see angry buu as well.
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>>153353741
Most of the events in the Bardock special could still have happened in Minus. It was a month between Kararot leaving and Frieza blowing up the planet.
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>win the tournament
>your universe is the only one left
>is the only universe left that Zeno(s) can play marbles with
either way, you're fucked.
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>>153352968
Chocolate beam is way too slow. By the time opponents are slow enough to be hit by it, it'll be over.
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>>153353768
Buu didn't spend much time with the Z warriors in canon, he just fought Kid Buu which was a personal thing(which included protecting Mr Satan). Then yeah, he was pretty dumb.
So no, it's not really out of character here.
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>>153350851
PSSST
ZAMAZU NEVER DIED
He was the universe due to his wish to be never ending, When Goku went back and got Zen-oh, Zamazu had already taken over.
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>Toriyama hated Goku being seen as a hero
>But turned Bardock into a generic copy of Superman's dad.
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>>153353788
Can't we just admit Goku's character is inconsistent as fuck?
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>>153353398
Goku has lost in every arc in Super except Freeza where he lost then got to do it over and win
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>>153353760
George is the ultimate troll.
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>>153353768
No. He simply fell to the same fat as all the other characters Toriyama gets tired of.
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>>153353413

Chichi trained Goten because Goku was dead.
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>>153350996
>Not based super Buu
One job
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>>153353760
Jar Jar was supposed to be Palpatine's innocent plant.
Also Palpatine was supposed to gradually change his appearance as the story went to showcase his more and more corrupt political machinations revealing his true nature as the Sith Lord. Note how in Ep2 Palpatine looks more "corrupted" than in Ep3 before his face gets melted in the Windu fight.
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>>153353776
Did Goku even know how Cell got stronger? Goku was in heart attack phase.

>>153353656
He gave Cell a sensu because he was sure that Gohan could beat him. He then killed himself to save humanity and stayed dead to keep it safe.
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>zeno is ready to destroy every single universe but U7 (goku wins wins because of reasons)
>goku ask zeno to not destroy the other universes because so they can keep doing "fun fights" for him
>zeno be like "yeah i want to see more battles in the future"
mark my fucking words
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Is everyone forgetting universe 7 can lock Zeno away anytime they feel like it.
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>>153350879
Universe nine is going to get wiped out first.
Thats when everyone else going to start treating goku as a villain.
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>>153352316
this would literally be the best thing ever.
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>>153353318
And Krillin, the worst of the bunch
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>>153353768
Pretty much. Buu was content to dick around when Babidi wasn't barking orders at him.
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>>153353635
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>>153352887
Damn, Brolyna is pretty hot.
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>>153352490
Whose eyes are those? Goku's or Gohan's?
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>>153353760
>>153353865
>A friendly George Lucas entered the room and was eager to hear the pitch from Red Fly’s creatives. “Before they could finish their spiel, Lucas cut them off, stood up, walked over to the statues, rotated them to be facing the same direction, pushed them together, and said ‘They’re friends!’” adds the source. “He wanted these characters to be friends, and to play off of each other. He talked about the show Burn Notice as a reference point. He likened Darth Maul to Sonny from The Godfather, and he likened Darth Talon to Lauren Bacall. He actually did an impersonation of her. It was supposedly the weirdest impersonation of a ’40s actress going, ‘Don’t you know how to whistle? Put your lips together and blow.’”
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>Universe 7 loses halfway through the tournament
>Zeno decides to keep Goku after Universe 7 is destroyed because he "Likes" him
>This causes Goku to gradually grow more and more angry with not only Zeno but all of their Universes and their Gods for celebrating the deaths of all of his friends and family
>Goku achieves some sort of God of Destruction state where he can use all of his God power without transforming like all of the other Gods and Angels seem to be capable of
>He decides to interrupt the tournament and defeats Ayy Lmao in revenge since it was Universe 11 that defeated 7
>Zeno is mad but decides to tell the Gods of Destruction to capture Goku instead
>Goku is put in a corner but he reveals that he can use Kaio-Ken with virtually zero ill effects and proceeds to defeat the Gods and eventually angels with Kaio-Ken x100 or something
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>>153353729
Wrong it was Krillin, Goku didn't even speak, and even Yamcha was up for fighting as good training.
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>>153351783
>Goku is pure and naive
>Zeno is pure and naive

Maybe seeing Zeno being a genocidal manicac will make Goku realize he should grow the fuck up and stop being like him
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new thread:

>>153353903

>>153353903

>>153353903

>>153353903
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>>153353793
>Even you

Everyone does but I can't get off something with terrible art like that.
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>>153350851
and then Trunks and Mai just fucked up to an identical timeline except everyone still alive so basically nothing changed
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>>153352602
Better without the undershirt
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>>153353843

>Can't we just admit Goku's character is inconsistent as fuck?

Yes we can. He's been inconsistent since the start of DB.
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>>153353879
Containment wave on a being that has god powers?
Good luck
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>>153353803
The problems are that Bardock's characterization is different than in Minus and that the SSJ Bardock special makes too little sense.
Ironically, the SSJ special and Minus's characterization of Bardock are closer to the perception people have of him.
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>>153353768

He's not dumb, just lazy and only cares about Satan (and chocolate).

>>153353879

>Goku did you bring the seal?
>Autistic japanese laughing
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>>153353240
>"Hey Shin, did the Grand Kaioshin hit his head or something?"
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>>153353768

He killed people because Babidi told him to...and stopped killing people because Satan told him to.
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>>153353649
both are canon

the inconsistencies arise from the fact that its a tv special in japan, from an era when anime was considered disposable (it didnt recieve a dvd release until the 00s and even then it was very limited) so toriyama likely hadnt seen it in like 20 years when he drew jaco

trunks special is canon, watch it when trunks becomes HUGE against cell
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>>153353414
tfw everyone hates your universe now
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I kind of hate the fact that opponents that can rival people like Goku even exist. I get the gods outclassing Goku, fair enough, but I thought the introduction of a character like Hit just undermined everything the main cast has gone through. Hit isn't a god or even has any discernible reason for being as strong as he is. Yeah he's a hitman so he'd have some level of fighting ability but Hit could probably give Beerus a run for his money. He might not win but the fact that HE CAN EVEN COMPETE AT ALL IS ABSURD. Super Saiyan was supposed to be a big deal, Super Saiyan God even bigger. I just hate how fucked the power scaling has become that Super Saiyan level characters are just commonplace now. Like yeah, no big deal.

Universe 7 was utter garbage prior to Frieza's arc when you consider that shit. Complete trash, easily weakest universe is Frieza was the fucking best. I just don't like how shit all these legendary forms have become.
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>>153353741
>The Bardock special is widely accepted to be canon for no real reason
I think the primary reason is that Toriyama literally draws him in the manga in Freeza's speech bubble.
This gives credit to at least the fact that his existence is canon.
You can also make Minus and the Bardock special co exist if you retcon a few things.
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>>153353910
Gohan.
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>>153353579
Once he gets into action he's gonna kick ass.

The wait is gonna be worthy.
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>>153353882
I kinda get the feeling no wiping out is going to be done until the tournament is over.
At least, thats how it was worded.
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Is still possible that the universes can't be revived even with the super dragon balls. Remember that Zeno is more powerful than them and maybe they can't undo what Zeno does.
Who knows, maybe Zeno sees that the universes are being revived and says ''fuck that, I said they are gone if they lose'' and destroys them again is not like it's difficult for him.
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>>153353938
it worked on zamasu, probably works on anyone
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So, why isnt Arale on the team?
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>>153350996
Something like Kid Buu or Super Buu would be really cool.
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>>153351245
she's not that impressive my herself, the real danger is Mira. A bioandroid like Cell she made who also as the ability to harvest the energy released when she fucks with the timeline
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>>153353413
Chi-chi was at her best in Buu saga. Super doesn't know what to do with her and just keeps her as the Adrian to Goku's Rocky.

All in all, Chi-chi seems MUCH more lax when Goku's dead. Really everyone's lives would be better.
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>>153353944
>>153353977
>Autistic japanese laughing
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>>153353451
>When it gets to Freiza and Cell there's no excuse though

Frieza tugged on Goku's sympathies by begging for his life. Cell Saga ended with Goku sacrificing himself. He gave Cell a senzu bean because he thought he was doing Gohan a solid since he didn't realize that Gohan didn't enjoy fighting; as soon as he realized that Gohan wanted to delay shit he freaked the fuck out.

>Fuck, not even "selfish" really describes it properly
Yeah. "Selfish" is pretty fucking light given the consequences involved. A character who cares nothing about killing billions out of nothing but amusement is generally described as evil. Of course, Toei doesn't get this, which is why the ending song seems to be painting this Goku as Neutral, even though his mentality is that of a sociopath.
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>>153353542
Pure of heart.
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>>153353741
bardock special is literally referenced in the manga and toriyama did character designs

episode of bardock has never been referenced in canon and had 0 toriyama involvement
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>>153352316
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I have a feeling universe 9 and 4 are going to get wiped out straight off the bat. That'll be 17 less characters they have to come up with before the actual tournament even starts.
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>>153351696
Isn't GP only the 5th strongest in all universes?

Zeno is one. The bodyguards could be 2 and 3 considering they're always by Zeno and bodyguards.

That leaves 2 people above GP that we haven't seen yet, and then whoever the fuck is 6th. Probably another angel. Hopefully Whis otherwise you have rando characters being stronger than Whis we might never see again.
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>>153353788
Goku is compassionate, it's part of his character. Pic related.

>>153353933

Nah, Goku is a compassionate hero that is sometimes blinded by his selfish desire to fight. That is Goku's character.
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>>153353602
Sometimes one have to see how the plebs fight and determine if they are worth to keep living.
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>>153352316
I WANT THIS.
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>>153351592
Not the universe. The Multiverse. The entire fucking timeline. Zamasu had worked his way through all of them and left U7 for last.
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>>153351777
Is that technically incest?
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>>153353793

>Chi-chi's fucking hot
Agreed
>in it
you lost me. everyone looks gross and retarded. Like they actually have downs.
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>>153354057
I can understand Universe 9, but why the fuck Universe 4?
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>>153353966
It's going to be this, then it will be revealed that the Grand Priest lied about universes getting wiped out. He just wanted to motivate everyone so that the Zeno-samas could see some good fights.
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>>153354070
>Goku is compassionate, it's part of his character. Pic related.
That wasn't compassion. That was retardation.
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>>153353958
>You can also make Minus and the Bardock special co exist if you retcon a few things.
Yeah, but the line has to be drawn somewhere. If animated material that wasn't written by Toriyama is accepted with retcons then why not other animated material? why not all of it? That's the issue. Which is why the only real options are a)only the manga is canon or b)not giving a shit about canon.
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>>153354111
>He just wanted to motivate everyone so that the Zeno-samas could see some good fights.
Your trips better not confirm this
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>>153352176

yeah but in Cell saga he was actually thinking being right or wrong it doesnt matter now in super he doesn't actually think he's just a brainless retard, majin boo tier.
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>>153352602
Oh, you mean SS kid Goku.
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>>153353639
That's probably what'll happen.

>the sycthe and dimension cutting powers that Black unknowingly activated against Vegeta were actually Goku's latent GoD powers because he was growing too strong too quickly
>Zamasu would have won if he let Black grow a bit more stronger instead of fusing
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>>153353584
Super feels like a waste of opportunities and potential

Evil Goku was literally a dream like villain.
He wasnt Goku...he was Zamasu teaming up with Zamasu. He is weak as shit at the beginning, and weak as shit at the end. Final boss is Zamasu looking like Zamasu.

No head fixed Goku, no Goten, no alternate universe Goku, no Turles, no nothing.

The new tournament has a lot of potential too. No universe will be destroyed and if they destroy the universes Goku wont waste a single second being remorseful.

I hope the final villain of DB is Goku. Just like Barry Lyndon who starts as a naive youth, the joyful protagonist, and ends up as the villain of the movie. But it wont.
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>>153353953

>>153352316
best ending
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>>153353768
I think he was. But he wasn't this narcoleptic.
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>>153353703
>or could sense the potential for good in Vegeta
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>>153354036
>bardock special is literally referenced in the manga
One panel that just shows Bardock itself.

>toriyama did character designs
so he did for some movies and even GT

>episode of bardock has never been referenced in canon
If one animated special about Bardock is accepted then the logical reasoning should be that the other too. There's no consistency otherwise.

>toriyama involvement
Stopped meaning anything as of Super episode 1.
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>>153353957
Hit had the ability to skip time, goku figured it out and broke it. He's lower than Vegata and goku now
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>>153353957
It just makes the saiyans look weak more than anything. Goku has to become a god to compete with someone like Hit when he doesn't really have to do anything because he's just really good by default.
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>>153354111
There would be SOO SOO MUCH BUTTHURT
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>>153353518

>you realize the reason they go to c17 is because after losing their universe the FURRY's need a place to live
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>>153354235
Not really, it would be standard Dragon Ball stuff.
True butthurt would be something like >>153352316 .
The DBS threads would go down in flames.
>>
What if they just use mafuba on Zen chan?
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>>153353114

>stop being white
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>>153350779
Daishin did that on purpose is pretty obvious he has a secret agenda.
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>>153354111
You know, that makes a lot of sense. And why they waited to tell everyone else about it but made sure everyone knew it was Goku's idea.
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>>153351174
YAAASSSSSS
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>>153352490
So he's got a transformation then? That can't be good
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>>153353525
And now Goku is a threat to 12 universes.
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>>153354224
Hit is still SSB level even without his time skip. Just being able to skip time isn't enough if you're too weak to do anything to your opponent. Also until Vegeta beats him in a fight, he's still higher than Vegeta. Goku has to go 10x Kaioken SSB to complete with Hit the first time and I'm reserving judgement until the manga catches up to see if that second hit fight was filler or not. Even so, Hit gets stronger and stronger for no reason just by fighting so he's obscenely powerful even without his time skip.
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>>153352523
he's been training with Piccolo in his spare time after RoF, and sparred with Goku last episode
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>>153354108
They're paired, right?
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>>153354200
>Hey Guys, I'm the reason why all of you are in mortal danger now! Nice to meet ya all!
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>>153354063
Vados trained Whis and is older than him. The strongest angel should be the first born.
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>>153353114
>dear saiya peepul
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>>153353953
At least Gowasu shouldn't have any semblance of moral high ground considering his actions directly caused the destruction of all the universes in a different timeline.
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>Piccolo is overseeing Gohan meditating on some mountain.
>Gohan looks like he's getting a non-ssj powerboost
I hope it's him getting his Mystic back.
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>>153352843
try using it after rising dragon flight
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>>153354130
Goku's both.
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>>153354546
But mystic it's obsolete now.
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>>153353029
Super Buu never grew any hair no matter who he absorbed.
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>>153354623
Not if going SSJ in Mystic will literally end the world. Isn't Mystic suppose to be limitless or something, that Gohan just has to keep training (which he won't) in order to become stronger and stronger? In other words, Mystic actually makes these dozens of forms of SSJ obsolete.
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>>153354437
he isnt though, sure his attacks can damage them, but if he cant hit them what use is that.
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>>153354623
Mystic is just Gohan using the potential energy of his transformations without having to enter them. If he got blue powers they would be included in his form.
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>>153354694
Well if we go off Buu then Mystic is Gohan's absolute limit. Remember he did not get a zenkai when Dende healed him.

Of course I expect this to be ignored.
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>>153352316
That would be fucking hilarious
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>>153353251
Maybe not. Zeno is the most powerful being in the world including the super dragon.

Even if the universes get restored maybe Zeno doesn't like it. He wanted those universes gone and he can destroy them again without effort.
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>>153352887
so is this cabbas sister?
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>>153353200
If Buu win's Gohan is 100% jobbing.

>motivation to train
>Beerus doubting/hating on gohan
>doesn't job in the main tourney, at least to begin with
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>>153354111
>every single universe got Monaka'd
I'd be okay with this
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Seeing as how Basil is shown as one of the top badasses of their respective universes along with Hit in this line up its safe to say Buu will lose.
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>>153354909
it's his wife. he thought he was doing her a favor when he taught her how to go super saiyan
he wasn't expecting 'that'
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>>153352852
>Dark Super sayan
>not Super Sayan Akuma
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>>153355026
>magma golem man

don't think this is a lineup of allstars
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>>153355028
he used to fuck his wife, now his wife fucks him
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>>153355026
>Implying this isn't the lineup of jobbers
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>>153355026
>badasses
Badasses were the AYY LMAO lineup, which has Broly as 2nd highest threat. This one is just jobbers.
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>>153355026
Who is the girl behind the wolf and next to the fat Telettuby?
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>>153355592
It could be a twink.
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>>153355028
do you reckon chichi's pussy has a power level in the millions?
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>>153352480
There are no girls on 4chan anyways
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>>153354209
one panel that references bardock v freeza as in the bardock special

fact is toriyama liked the bardock special and made it honorary canon while he probably doesnt know episode of bardock exists

its garbage made to sell dragon ball heroes shit

saying it has to be canon if the original special is like saying eradicate the saiyans is canon because broly sorta is now
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>>153355765
Are you sure about that anon?
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