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What's /a/'s opinion on westerners publishing

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What's /a/'s opinion on westerners publishing manga in Japan?
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Good for them.
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>>153348501
good luck i guess
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Glad they followed their dreams
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>>153348501
lol, thats like being chinese and having a pasta restaurant in Rome.
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Hope they're happy with it.
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>westerners
It's not manga then.
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>>153348501

If the story and art is good, then I'm fine with it. If they start inserting identity crap into it, they should be gassed.
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Male writer: Same race male with different race female
Female writer: Same race female with different race male
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>>153348736
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=81443
???
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Hideous way to inject neo-liberalistic propaganda into Japan since all attempts doing it over the internet failed.
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>>153348823
>marry japanese man and write manga all to inject neo-liberalistic propaganda
>get accepted by Japanese editors
Wow she must be very dedicated.
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Good for them but also >>153348823 is the last thing Japan needs.
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>>153348736

That's like saying an American cartoon shown in Japan isn't anime. But Japan still calls it anime.
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Awesome. If you are dedicated enough to learn the language and work your way to getting a manga published then you deserve respect!
That manga actually looks pretty fun too.
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>>153348501
What are oricon sale rankings?
Did waito piggu sell over 500 copies in 3 months?
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>>153348501
Germany is the middle east though.
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>read pic
>suddenly want to publish manga
I'll practice for 10 years and aim for a one shot in Jump.
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If they want to jump through all the hoops to do it, then fine. Stick to your dreams and all that.

I can't help but be reminded of that group of drawfags from /a/ that tried to publish their own doujin and ended up all hating each other so bad that they won't even talk anymore.
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>>153349055
>publish their own doujin
Isn't the point that you don't need to publish?
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Looks really cute.
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>>153349098
Right, print and sell.
Sorry, I'm a moron.
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>>153349162
And they couldn't even do that?
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>>153348501
>>153348710
who cares?
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>>153348736
anime are animated clips made in japan

a foreigner making a comic in japan is manga
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>>153349055

>I can't help but be reminded of that group of drawfags from /a/ that tried to publish their own doujin and ended up all hating each other so bad that they won't even talk anymore.
When devinatart artists come together and try to collaborate on a project, it never ends well.
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>>153348501
The same as I feel about the fat American girl who told me she was in Japan because she wanted to become a voice actor.
Pity.
I will never understand people who think like this.
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>>153350169
Wouldn't you instinctively put a fatty in a voice acting role?
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>>153349780
dude, go suck a dick
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>>153350429
Not in Japan, although I think her obesity is only a small part of the issue here.
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this particular case looks to be meh
a gaijin making something like haruhi with people not noticing is fine - better that they're on good terms with such creators too
creating what is essentially a foreign work that is out of place is no different from being a crossboarder here
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>tfw will never co-found a manga company with cool japanese people and specialize in your favorite niches
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If this were a work of ignorance by a Japanese I might actually find it cute but considering it was by a foreigner I genuinely expected better. I was hoping for something that would get me angry over trivial cultural differences that undermine the relationship between characters but rather it's just a nothing.
Seems too flat and textbook for my liking.
>This is a potato.
>That is a piece of grilled bread
>Why are we grilling bread
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>>153350169
Weeb with creativity and willpower > weeb consumer
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>>153348501
are bodies are built strong like duralast battery. We dont die from fatigue in writing manga like sissy jap person
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>>153351139
If you honestly believe that chasing effectively impossible "dreams" for the sake of trying to be a special snowflake is better than grounding yourself in reality and pursuing a respectable and attainable future then I seriously question the education you were given.
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>>153348501
She's propagating the stereotype that white people have big noses.
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>>153351282
niggers do, dont forget, they're westerners too
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>>153351275
She's a housewife.
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>>153348501
I have a mountain of ideas that would make me rich but I don't know moonrunes.
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>>153348501
Any popularor good one made by a foreigner?
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>>153352040
Then learn moonrunes and get rich, retard.
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>>153352040
Can you draw?
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>>153352246
No Game No Life
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>>153352312
>implying you need to know how to draw to make it big
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>>153352040

Then draw it, call it a 'graphic novel' and sell it in your home country.
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>>153351244
She looks like she weighs as much as three Japanese
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>>153348501
I aspire to be one one day.
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>>153348710
You understand that a lot of the pasta restaurants in Rome are pretty shit due to catering for the tourist hordes and it's very likely more than a few are owned by the Chinese, right
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Ganbatte, I guess.
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>>153352431
He can't draw (or write), he's the "ideas guy".
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>>153352246
The creator of Thermae Romae lives in Illinois.
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>>153352498
Well yeah because most people are aware of the gigantic population of Chinese in Italy since they run all the purse sweatshops and invade the designer boutiques every holiday season.
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>>153352459
What are you doing to make dream reality?
Would you want to be serialized?
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>>153350429
Would you put a foreigner in a voice acting role?

I mean, it's possible that once or twice there'd be a need for a voice actor with a clear foreign accent, but that'd be super specific and it'd be easier to have a local actor who'd just fake the accent. In most western shows you also have all of the roles acted by local people, even the ones where the character is somehow "foreign" and is even written into having an accent.

>inb4 b-but their nihongo is totally native tier
No it's fucking not. you can be very fluent and have fantastic grammar but people WILL be able to hear that you're foreign.
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>>153352522

>mfw I'm the 'ideas guy' as well
>but spent years learning to write screenplays
>still no artist wants to collab

Should have just went the drawing route and done storyless doujins.
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>>153352578
does she?
doesn't matter though she's japanese
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>>153348710
I knew a taco place ran by Chinese people.

It was surprisingly great
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>>153352853
This is true.
Fappable art>fappable plot on paper>fappable plot in your mind
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>>153352246
Japan won't let dirty gaijins without their blood be popular
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>>153353011

The best hamburger I ever ate was at a doughnut shop run by a Korean couple.
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>>153352688
>it'd be easier to have a local actor who'd just fake the accent
When they need people like that they either use gaijin models in local agencies or Americans who live on military bases.
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>>153353134
And then they still have them use fake exaggerated accents.
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>>153352406
huehuehuehue
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>>153348736
/thread
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>>153354050
But it is manga.
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>>153351275
She achieved her dream. Stay mad.
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>>153352688
There is actually at least one VA that isn't a native and there are some actors that aren't native English speakers who appear in movies/TV shows produced in anglo countries, but it's mostly true.
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>>153353134
>gaijin models in local agencies or Americans who live on military bases
No, they use Nip seiyuu that can't speak English and speak Japanese in a shitty way that sounds nothing like an English native trying to speak Japanese. Situations when they actually hire natives for this are rare and memorable because of that.
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>>153350469

I am confused
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Maybe she'll lose weight from how shitty a life a mangaka lives
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>>153354050
>tekkon kinkreet isn't anime because the director isn't a jap
>despite being produced in and by japan
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>>153348501
So jealous
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>>153348501

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBUgyZzT5SE

I'm happy for them. It's really fucking hard to actually follow your dreams. People bullshit about wanting to do it all the time, but these guys actually uproot their lives and go to a foreign country to make it happen.

Sometimes it works out. Felipe Smith (check the yt link) got a monthly serialized in a kodansha magazine. Made it to two volumes, and got a job with Marvel after moving to the states. He works on the new ghost rider (pic related) now
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>>153348501
They're in Japan, they should stop being fat.
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If they get published at a real publisher then that's the big leagues as far as I'm concerned.
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this is a surprisingly positive thread, nice
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>>153348501
Following their dreams. It's alright.
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>>153348501
As long as their manga are good I'm ok with them.
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Is manga publishing dominated by series or are there many magazines dedicated to shorter manga?
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>>153355219
I haven't read the comic
But that Ghost Rider looks great, and you need a lot of good shit to look better than something like Ghost Rider
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>>153348932
Stop being such a newfag anon
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judging by this thread people here really lowered their standards
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>>153356676
How do you mean?
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>>153348501
Don't care. I'll read it if I like it, ignore it if I don't.

>>153352688
>I mean, it's possible that once or twice there'd be a need for a voice actor with a clear foreign accent
If they absolute need a clear accent, it's easier to contact a foreign studio to record and send the lines than find a foreign voice actor living in Japan.
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>>153356676
Which is funny because /a/ hate RWBY.
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>>153356767
Why would a foreign studio have someone who could speak Japanese?
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I thought people would be screaming at filthy hakujins inflitrating the great Nippon.
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>>153348501
japan needs to be racially and culturally pure

keep the weeb amerikajin in trumpistan
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>>153357054
>>153357256
Japan here, we like foreigners who come to live here if they respect our culture.
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>>153356960
I was talking about those fake English speakers they use sometimes.
https://youtu.be/-Jsh8eCcVI0
(Ignore Five's Engrish since the character is a Japanese attempting to speak English, just listen to the others)
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>>153357460

But, Japan is the most xenophobic country on Earth! 4chan told me so!
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>>153357654
I went there recently and people kept staring at me.

Then again, i'm a tall black guy and the same thing happens all the time back home.
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>>153357680

People in Japan would stare at a tall white guy too since they don't see one often. Just like a lot of 4chan denizens would stare at an asian walking around their town (unless you live in Vancouver or something).

Its out of curiosity and not racism/xenophobia like people claim.
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>>153351275
But she, and others, have did it. As long as your dream is actually pursued you are not just a hopeless weeaboo. The problem with actual weeaboo is they do nothing to move forward with their dreams. Anybody who actually takes action to achieve what they want is respectable. What have you accomplish anyway fag?
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>>153357751
>a lot of 4chan denizens would stare at an asian walking around their town
What bumfuck town do you have to live in where you'd stare at asians?
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>>153352246
Peepochu is about a weeaboo who goes to Japan and talks like a pokemon because he learned Japanese from Anime.
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>>153350487
Ah well. We have a saying in the United States, "That person has a face for radio!" It seems to apply here.
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>>153357680
>>153357751
>tfw barely manlet chink that nobody would bat an eye at over there
My nip is terrible unless I'm quoting game lines though.
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>>153357751
>Just like a lot of 4chan denizens would stare at an asian walking around their town

Is this what America is like outside of California? No wonder Trump is president.
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>>153348823
>>153348882
You're delusional, fuck off back to your containment board
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>>153358022
Nah, maybe in the middle of nowhere.
Most people live in urban areas or near an expressway.
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>German
>Westerner

But Nippons love Germans Anon
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>>153357943
Do not automatically assume that everyone on /a/ is a failure, ESL-kun.
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>>153348501
>Its another multicultural manga

I hate this so god damn much.
Fucking bitch couldn't write a story worth a damn.
Same with that other one with the english teacher.
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>>153358022
Asians are thought of as hyper-sexual Wildcats in America. Saying hello to one will almost certainly guarantee you a whirlwind romance.
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ShindoL is from burgerland

https://www.patreon.com/shindol

Lawrence Shindo
Queens, New York

He used to have a facebook, but it seems he deleted. But he looked full japanese

I guess being able to speak and look asian is all that really matters
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>>153358211
H-Honto?
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>>153358211
Can confirm.
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>>153348710
>pasta restaurant in Rome.
do you know pasta is actually from china, right?
> implying walt disney paved the way for japanese animation
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>>153358022
I stay at blacks walking around my town but that's only because you can't relax around them.
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>>153348501
Would rather self publish and keep all the shekels for myself.
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i guess this starts the clock on the demise of anime and manga.

oh well. it was a good run while it lasted.
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>>153358342
Wtf?! I hate my country (Italy) now.
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>>153358442
Why are you saying that?
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>>153358453
Just to be sure. Unironically?
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>>153358022

Yes. There aren't many asian people outside of the coast. And even then, I live in Oregon and there's barely any here.

>le Trump meme
Don't you have a woman's march to go to?
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>>153352246
The one made by the hue
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>>153358442
Just don't buy fujo manga made by tumblr then and you're fine.
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>>153348501
JEWS ARE NOT WHITE
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>>153358505
I'm just kidding. About hating it that is.
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>>153358453
pizza was also a forgotten recipe, until was re-discovered by someone in new-york. The same happened with sushi.
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>>153358544
I hate your country now
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>>153358342
I was waiting for this.
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>>153358022
no, we all keep an eye out for niggers instead. they don't commit the most crimes according to fbi.gov statistics for no reason
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So /a/, if you managed to publish your own manga in Japan, would you use a pen name and pretend to be Japanese or embrace the fact that you're a gaijin?
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>>153348501
Well ShindoL always gives me a good giggle, but he's actually japanese.

So a white dude going to japan and making a "manga" is just a fucking comic.
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>>153358714
>He

She.
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>>153348501
The art is Tumblr tier, too cartoony.
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>>153358651
I Am Not<LiKe DAt Other•FuJFat
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>>153349055
>>153349881
/vp/ is still working on their fangame despite the core devs moving offsite and them all hating each other. They just have enough autistic passion and drive to put up with how done everybody is with each other's bullshit.

t. one of the autists in question
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>>153358651
Am I the only one that if that ever happened, I'd try my hardest not to be seen as a foreigner? I'd feel like it'd make my manga hard to sell in Japan.
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>>153358775
She will literally die, and nobody will ever know who she's.
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Call me anytime.
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>>153348501
If Japs are willing to buy it hooray for capitalism.
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>>153358773
>That meme
We've seen pictures anon, he's a surprisingly normal looking individual.
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>>153348710
Best Chinese food I've ever had was in Venice, Italy.
The italian noodles were top quality.
So I'm going to take your comment and assume you mean "When different cultures come together they can create something better than either could individually".
So inspiring, anon.
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whoops forgot my image
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>>153358863
what you said applies to 90% of the world's population
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>>153358903
That's because her manga is probably that bad.
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>>153358900
Have fun getting C&D'd.
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>>153355219
>Made it to two volumes, and got a job with Marvel after moving to the states.

This is why i don't really understand people being obsessed with "making it in japan". It clearly doesn't gel that well with the japanese and some of the best western comics that have come out in the last few years have been manga influenced. There is clearly a market for this stuff over here.

Do these people really think they're going to be a some kind of special case or that it's even worth being 'established' in japan when artists as good as Felipe and Paul Pope couldn't pull it off?
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>>153358903
More like 99.9%.
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>>153358980
I guess they want the experience just to see what it's like.
I read blog by guy who was animation assistant over there and he was happy with terrible pay and hours. I don't get it.
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>>153358651
My name is already in kanji though, so I'd just rearrange/recombine them into a Japanese surname, then maybe approximate my English name with hiragana.
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>>153359047
Kevin-kun?
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>>153359114
I vaguely know who you're referring to, but I'm not white.
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>>153358651
Use a pen name like "Tosh" or something
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reallly ass holes? no one is gonna state the obvious?
>GutenTag!
more like Gluten Tag!
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>>153359282
>Use a pen name like "Tosh"
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>>153356271
Fuck you, go eat some dicks faggot.
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>>153359365

While it is amazing that Japan has been able to retain its culture, a lot of it already is taken over by western concepts. Baseball is their national sport now, animation is loved almost as much as live action, they wear western clothes (even stuff the west gave up long ago), country and pop music stars from America are selling more tickets to Japanese concerts than in America, etc.

I say its okay for them to keep borrowing from the west as long as they also keep their own unique culture intact, which they have so far. And as long as they don't go down the identity politics/SJW rabbit hole the western nations have.
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>>153352246
ShindoL is American I think
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>>153349881
I've been able to work with a few deviant art artists on a project together...i think the key is to keep them separated...oh also don't work with Westerners they fuck everything up and are huge drama queens.
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>>153358863
Good riddance.
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>>153359047
Are you Japanese or did you have it legally changed?
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>>153348501
Does it really matter? If they can draw well and tell a good story, by all means. Especially when you have 'authentic mangaka' who puts out art barely passable like the rushed Hunter x Hunter chicken scratches or the art of the Kanji/Akagi manga.
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>>153358651
Considering my first, middle, and last names would be a cluster fuck for an asian to pronounce, I'd go with the typical singular romanized pen name all in caps.
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I've always wanted to create a manga and post it on 4chan. I'm just not sure what reactions to expect or whether it will even be popular. Sure it might be good, but will anyone like it? How good does it have to be for people to like it, and if it is good then it doesn't matter what I write about, right? I just want my own cozy general where everyone talks about how good I am.
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>>153359769
you never know until you try...although i keep my comic a secret from here because i don't want to end up as a meme.
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>>153359769
You'll probably get called a gigantic faggot for what you just posted, which you deserve gigantic homosexual.
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>>153359733

>for an asian to pronounce
You realize a lot of Asians use a crazy western sounding pen name on purpose, right? It might even be to your advantage. They'll think you're some Japanese guy who came up with an authentic western name.
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>>153359675
I'm >>153358018. China surnames ate usually one kanji, one unique(relative to your immediate family, maybe unique out to cousin level), and depending on families, may have a middle name shared among paternal cousins. Most of us also have an English name, which may be an approximation of the Chinese pronunciation, or not. Nip surnames are usually two-kanji, followed by one to two kanji(personal name), or some katakana/hiragana(may be stage name, may be actual name's pronunciation but the kanji is too obscure/complex to show up well in every font)
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>>153359769

>write a manga and link it on 4chan
>it becomes a huge thing and everyone keeps asking when an anime will be made
>tell them a year later it was written by some guy in Canada
>/a/ blows up and suddenly everyone pretends they always hated it
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>>153348501
This is cool and everything, but when is that Keit-Ai manga coming out?
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>>153359769
Just make sure it's framed up at B5-size to make it feel authentic. My sketchbook is arranged to do one-page layouts on the fly. So I'll take reference images and turn them into a narrative fairly quickly.
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>>153359966
I don't have a link, but there was about 10 chapters out as of 5 or 6 months ago.
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>>153348501
I happy for the artists but my question is why is Japan so many peoples endgame/goal? Why not aim for Europe, mainly France where their comics have more variety than Japan's dominate shonen shit?
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>>153357751

>people in Japan would stare at a tall white guy too

6ft 3 and living in Tokyo here.
They don't.
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>>153348823
why are you fuckers in every thread
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>>153359888
Ah, how about that. Sounds pretty cool.
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>>153359994
Because they prefer japanese comics over french comics. The same reason people could shoot for having a fancy french or italian sit down restaurant but make a chicken wing food truck instead.
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>>153348501
They accomplished what they wanted and probably learned another language just for that, and no one's forcing me to buy their manga if I don't want to. What's the problem
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>>153359995
whats your job there?
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>>153359994
>France where their comics have more variety than Japan's dominate shonen shit
You clearly know very little about manga.
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>>153360183
Dick massaging pays pretty good and the work is light
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>>153352246
NGNL
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>>153360256
>the work is light
Does it turn you on?
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>>153352853
Try making a web novel, maybe you'll get some fags to pay you through Patreon.
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I don't think it's where you're born or what your race is that determines if you can make manga. I think it's about if you go into it with the mindset of it being a manga and of course it needs to be made and published in Japan. Good on them for doing what they need to to accomplish their dreams.
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>>153348736
If is published in Japan is manga.
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>>153359994
>Wanting to be recognized by France, or anyone for that matter.
You should be making what you love, thinking about anyone else's opinion WILL hold you back.
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>>153352853
Hey man if you really want an artist you can probably find a really good one from an Asian country like taiwan that will do it for cheap. I paid someone once 50 bucks in taiwan and the told me that feeds them for a month there. Just check on deviant art you might be able to find one
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>>153358342
the chinese used rice, wheat is european.
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>>153348736
Following that logic ngnl isn't manga either.
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>>153360349
small dicks doesn't turn me on, anon.
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>>153360508

I might try that if I get an actual meeting with a production/management company some day and need character designs. I want to make TV shows, not manga.
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>>153360478
I pooped once in Japan. Is it japanese?
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>>153348501
does the art look like shit because she's not Japanese?
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you otaku autists are more nationalistic about japan than 99% of japs are
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>>153360570
Yea i work with people from their all the time, they dont complain, work great, and very gun ho about everything. Massive difference then working with westerners who have been nothing but pain in the asses to me.
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>>153360220
Obviously
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>>153348823
>neo-liberalistic

Fuck off tumblr.
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Would /a/ even support a western artist if they're good and make content /a/ loves?
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>>153348736
It's based on the industry. If it's from within Japan it's manga.
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>>153360565
He's memeing.
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>>153360755

See >>153359922
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It looks like a handsome comic, but she's just doing it until she can sell the rights to the TV show, IMO
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>>153360599
Was the food that produced it japanese?
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>>153349018
>10 years
4 years of studying the fundamentals and applying it to make your own style is more than enough. What you should keep in mind is that you should think of a good story to draw during the time you're practicing so you don't end up with the skills to draw a good story but not a story worth drawing about. That's how we get manga that get great premises but terrible stories because the authors thought art was the only obstacle.

Just make sure you let /a/ read your manga first though.
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>>153360918
By the hands of a impure nip.
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>>153349018
>10 years

Draw everyday for 1 hour and you'll reach your goal in 5.
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>>153348823
You have to remember that countries like Russia were just as influenced by the liberalism of the Tang Dynasty as Korea and Japan were.
https://youtu.be/SoSIpWbqS60

It seems that the rehabilitation of figures like Empress Wu are ultimately a facet of resurgent Chinese nationalism. China has outgrown its sense of liberalism, while Eastern Europe clings to it more heavily.
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>>153358022
The last two presidents of America were completely retarded and both not only got elected but reelected as well. Really makes you think.
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>>153358180
Yeah but what have you achieved fag?
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>>153360964
>>153361034
I'll do it.
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>>153348501
She's cute. The right amount of fat to not look ugly.
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>>153361219
More than a fat fuck with a manga nobody buys, but /a/ is not my blog, faggot, so stop asking for blogshit.
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>>153359769
4chan made one before and it was kinda great
It's called Guy jean 4koma
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>>153361327
>Guy Jean will never get a full anime adaption
why are we here
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>>153361322
Someone's mad.
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>>153361373
You won't tempt me, tempty tempter
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>>153361156
Obama was arguably the best president the US ever had, but the braindead American people have a tendency to dislike good presidents.
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>>153352688
>he doesn't know about Maxwell Powers
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>>153361327
>that one time when the entire board jumped into one thread to elaborate on an episode for Guy jean comic.
that was some good time here, the thread even went made into 4 full threads back to back. Sadly only 3 episodes were made out of hundred ideas due to lack of drawfag.
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>>153361156
>The last two presidents of America were completely retarded


>this is what trumpettes believe
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>>153361493
were made into*
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>>153352246
ShindoL.

Find that really bizarre too. He didn't just go to Japan to be an artist, he went to be a porn artist.
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>>153361455

>but the braindead American people have a tendency to dislike good presidents.
You can always tell when a liberal is talking because they know what they say is heavily bias. So to try and cut off any potential counter point, they turn it into an 'us vs them' argument. "If you don't agree with me, you're an idiot."

You'd think after the last election, they would have figured out that identity politics fucking killed them and they'd stop it. Instead, they're just doing it even worse now. As if doing it more and more will eventually wear people down and just give up.
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>>153361455
>Obama was arguably the best president the US ever had
Not even close, and I voted for him.
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>>153361593
>You can always tell when a liberal is talking because they know what they say is heavily bias.

just like how you can always tell when a conservative is talking because they always assume who they are talking to is liberal instead of just not being retarded
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>>153361593
I'm a libertarian, so your argument is invalid.
Nixon and Obama were the best presidents in America's history, deal with it.
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>>153348501
Oddman is ok, that's about it.
>>153361455
>14trillion of debt in 8year
>best
I guess Venezuela and Zimbabwe are super powers.
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>>153359994
>mainly France where their comics have more variety than Japan's
because french people suck and are not moe~
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>>153361662

>so your argument is invalid.
>goes on to make an outrageous statement no one will agree with
I believe you're libertarian all right.
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>>153360565
>Likewise the way sushi is typically served in the US is a joke and nothing like in Japan.
I should expand on sushi. It was originally a chinese way of preserving fish. The recipe made it to japan, and then forgotten in china.
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>>153360859
>that art style
Reminds me of pic. Fits her age too.
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>>153348736
Isn't the difference between manga and comics a panel thing and how the content in the panels are drawn?
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>>153361728
Eating raw fish was a technique to preserve fish?
Very clever chinks.
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>>153361327
That looks awful and I could make something better than that desu.
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>>153361034
Five hours or five days? :^)
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>>153348501
I don't know many but i guess they are ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7q3f72O9r4
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>>153361795
The glory of Guy Jean would be tainted by you.
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>>153361821
So is this about a Swedish christmas cake?
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>>153361728

>It was originally a chinese way of preserving fish. The recipe made it to japan, and then forgotten in china.
Careful not to say that to a Japanese person. Because its something they claim as their own. Even having a unique origin story for it.
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>>153353070
Hey man, just means you like dog.
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>>153361863
>christmas cake
She's already 33 though.
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Because I saw some complete retardness in the beginning of the thread, let me just tell you neoliberalism is one of the things most of you here probably say you despise without knowing the name. It has nothing to do with culture, mind you. It is first and foremost an economical theory based around "free" market and "capitalism," meaning corporatism, globalism (moving production to places with cheaper workers) and making money from money not production. It is the cancer killing the Japanese economy since the USA slapped their shit with the Plaza Agreement to prevent them from creating their own technological and yen zone. This created the Bubble Economy and send Japan in a now 30 year long stagnation. The Abenomics is mostly based around it neoliberalism too, so it is not surprising it sucks ass. The good dog Japan is when it comes to following it is also why they were so desperate to ratify the god damn TPP.
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>>153361821
>>153348501

>i'm so white, yen i live in japan, multiculturalism, yay!

I fucking hate this, and i'm sure there are some legit mangakas coming up with cool stories out there, but this kinda makes me ignore anything western related.
Of all the crazy or interesnting scenarios you can put into a piece of paper, the best she could come up with was just hes life as a gaijin in japan and "lol cultural differences x3"

This probably triggers me more than it should, but i hate people cashing out on this shit.
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>>153362145

The economy situation in Japan isn't as simple as that. And Japan actually saw a sweeping economy for a while because America was giving them 'rebuild' money. Not to mention Japan didn't have to pay for their own military.

What you've been seeing for the last 20 years is a combination of a population loss, yen bubble and the lack of American funds all coming together at the same time.
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>>153361728
Narezushi is nothing like sushi.
It didn't even use vinegar in the rice, and you ate the fermented fish on its own after discarding the rice.
Sushi is fresh fish with vinegar rice.
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>>153362190
At least it's not another isekai, brother.
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>>153359994
>Going to places full of islamic terrorists
Lol no
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>>153361455

>Obama was arguably the best president the US ever had
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>>153359994

Japan isn't my end goal. I would like to get into the American film industry and get 2D animation to be taken more seriously. Instead of the seventh tier form of media its treated as now. And in my mind, the best way to do that would be to hire Japanese animators, who are quickly becoming the only people who care about 2D animation anymore.
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>>153362394
that's a fact, but you Americans prefer fascist clowns to smart people doing good things.
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>>153362511
How is Obama better than Lincoln?
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>>153362533
he didn't die
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>>153362471
Hate to break it to you but Hollywood sucks. Retaining artistic integrity is impossible unless you're able to fund your own movie.
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>>153362145
Are you retarded or something?

Japan's economy is in the shitter because (and I hate that I have to say this) they refuse to buy into free market capitalism. They can hardly keep up with the rest of the world because their workplaces lack skilled workers and shunt out opinions outside of the norm.

That's why software development in Japan right now is a complete and utter joke.
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An interview with Eckhardt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_zcPUNvMFo
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>>153362511

>its a fact, but you...

Ah, the us vs them thing again.

>but I'm a libertarian!
Who's arguing with shitty identity politic tactics. And claiming Obama is the best president we ever had. Other libertarians would and should shun you.
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>>153362603

I know they suck. But change from within and all that. Plus I suspect the 3D CGI bubble will burst in the next 15 years. Disney is already trying to replace all their animation with live action.

In other words, while 2D animation is at its lowest point right now, that also means there's massive growth potential. And Japan sure seems ready and willing to fill that gap. Especially with the upcoming olympics.
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>>153348710
Ate at an Italian restaurant run by Asians in Venice. It was pretty good.
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>>153362267
You are right about them getting a lot of monetary help, but that helped them build the base for their future economy. It was just that, though, the base, which is an important element, but it was not the moving force of everything after that. So far the population loss doesn't have that big of an effect either and it is going to play even less of a role in the new technological wave. You can't have a real economical grow that is not based on production, but quick bucks through money -> money'.

>>153362669
But of course. They need the TPP so they can export even more production, get local industries destroyed by foreign competition, get finally bought by foreign investors, become completely food dependant on import and get fucked by USA intellectual property laws. That will work!

>>153362511
>fascist clowns
You don't even know what that means, do you? But peace award warmonger Obama was a good boy. He cares so much about people that he gave everyone healthcare by forcing everyone to have one for a "small" price. Please. I bet you wanted Bernie to win.
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>>153362987
You would need to find a producer who's willing to participate, and producers hate creativity.
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>>153348501
I don't mind that actually. I'd be just happy for them.
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>>153362190
This really. I could pick up literally any other book or story about "random white girl goes to Space/to visit the forest elves/to the toilet/etc." why would I want to read a manga about it.
Of all the other and more interesting stories by Japanese and Foreigners alike that could be chosen, something bland and redone for the 1000th time is published.
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>>153363274
> something bland and redone for the 1000th time is published.
Japs and weebs love their cliches.
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>>153363439
> something bland and redone for the 1000th time is published.
Actually this is true pretty much everywhere.
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>>153352853
>finding my shitty fanart in a westaboo thread
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>>153362987
if you meet lelouch tell him hi
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>>153362190
>but this kinda makes me ignore anything western related.
Why specifically western? Jap shit is by and large just as generic.
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>>153362987
>But change from within and all that
I miss being 19 and absurdly idealistic.
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>>153363103
do you know healthcare even works
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>>153361777
I'm thinking it had more to do with the vinegar rice.
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Do you guys think japan would like wizards?

What about wizards who could access the 4th dimension through stands?

What about wizards fighting 4th dimension dragons with their 4th dimension stands and getting in sickass wizardstand battles all the time?

do not steal
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>>153362361
But it technically is.
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>>153348501
Considering that the Japanese manga market is near total saturation, it's a damn miracle that they were able to get in
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>>153348501
Congrats to all successful gaijins. They deserve it.
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Well Panty and Stocking is proof that not all US writers/designers fuck up anime and mango.
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>>153348501
shes cute
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>>153352688
>No it's fucking not. you can be very fluent and have fantastic grammar but people WILL be able to hear that you're foreign.
This is how I can tell you are an EOP.
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>>153361821
She's even had her designs used in IKEA
http://popsop.com/2010/02/ikea-fabrics-collection-becomes-japanese-with-manga/
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>>153365824
Are you saying you can speak Japanese so well a native couldn't tell?
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>>153365349
Knights are better.
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>>153348501
>that art
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>>153365550
Panty and Stocking was by japs, you mong.
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Why does no one remember Deltora Quest?
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>>153366662
for the same reason that nobody mentioned the marvel anime.
what the hell does it have to do with this? gaijins didn't make the anime.
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>>153366697
It's inspired by a gaijin source material. It's basically the same thing.
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>>153348501
>What's /a/'s opinion on westerners publishing manga in Japan?

anything the west world touches it gets brutally destroyed. feminism? censorship? loli triggers? you name it.
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>>153366779
well, it started with both hiroshima and nagasaki so...
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>>153358651
>tfw when the names your dad gave you have the readings "Osamu" and "Akira" in nip.

What do I do with this?
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>>153358651
I would use my real name and even if I post on /a/ I'd still use my real name.
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>>153366874
This anon is onto it, the problem isn't too much destruction the problem is not enough.

We need to start glassing places.
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>>153351275
Sounds like someone gave up on their dream
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Are there any western doujin authors publishing in Japan? You know, printed versions, a stall in Comiket etc.
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>>153370864
If I were I'd just get a Jap friend to man the stall at comiket and pretend to be me. Unless I was an even moderately attractive grill, in which case being gaijin war rape bait would probably be great for business and publicity.
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>>153348938

>around 5% muslim population
>middle east

okay
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>>153348501
Happy for her. I hope she achieves good reputation.
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>>153370864
nope, no caucasian and negroid people. I've seen many chinese
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>>153372229
What if you are blue pill?
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>>153359030
>was happy with terrible pay and hours
He got to do what he wanted in one of the safest modern countries on the planet, when you can scrape by with a career in something you genuinely love it doesn't matter if you're a poorfag.
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>>153352498
nope, and you made my day bysaying that, so hilarious
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>>153372229
I get it, but it's still shit.
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>>153349018
Hey, Boichi is foreign and he's about to debut in WSJ. Don't let your dreams be dreams.
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>>153358893
well. maybe yes, maybe not, i wasnt criticizing people for sharing culture. it was more like finding how ironic things can get
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>>153348501
It's a good try, and it's a trial that will bring about some kind of result in life. At least that'll make life worthwhile unlike these fags in the thread. Oh yeah, whatever, that's me too.
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>>153358230
>He used to have a facebook, but it seems he deleted

You faggots harassed him or something, did you

Makes me regret spoiling /a/ about his facebook profile a long time ago.
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>>153358651
I would name myself Sakamoto777
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>>153358863
>She will literally die

?
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>>153359994
>France has more variety than Japan

Are you sure about that
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>>153348501
Fucking weebs ruining everything
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>>153366779
Well, they haven't done it to Japan... yet. See >>153359554
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>>153359992
Keit-ai is already a manga. Stop posting it.

http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/keit-ai/list?title_no=36825
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>>153352688
In ping pong there were actual chinese VA's
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>>153348501
If they went to the trouble of learning the language and culture, and, assuming their work is up to par, then they had to work a lot harder than your average Nip to achieve their goal and that's respectable.
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>>153348501
And obviously its a whale.
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>>153378005
Killer whale.
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>>153348501
>google that stuff
I'd actually want to read that, it sounds interesting. No translation availiable, apparently.
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>>153376778
>Patreon
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>>153348501
Please dont
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>>153359564

He is. I think he's from NY.
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>>153358651
Use my Gaelic name. The only problem is I wouldn't be drawing chuuni shit, so wrong target audience.
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Is it just me or do us Westerners have this uncanny inability to imitate the manga style of face shaping? It always looks like shit unless the character is a furry.
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>>153361327
Translations never ;_;
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>>153383942
>wikihow
that page is just a joke.

anyway I dont' know if my drawings can pass the test
but I'm sure some people can.
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>>153384473
Anyone can do it if they put in the effort.
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>>153376778
What does he have against backgrounds and panels?
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>>153359922
Change the canadian to australian and the world will burn
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>>153348501
That's a big nose.
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>>153349018
You'd have an easier time with Light Novels, to be honest with you.
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>>153386053
For jew
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>>153386365
LNs suck.
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>>153386365
>easier time
Maybe if you think in words, everyone here thinks in images.
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>>153387486
I honestly dont understand how people can read LNs.
Given I've only dabbled in some of the more popular ones and with them mostly being fan-translated it is just so fucking bad.
Its written like a high school essay you write for your English class or some shit.
This might just be because the translator is indeed a high school student, but fuck man, I doubt they are any better in nipponese.
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>>153376778
Stop posting Keit-ai because it's already an anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_rz1bluG_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUjMWRCzic
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Pic related is by Anthony Zierhut, who published one volume in Japan and then went on to become a storyboard artist for major motion pictures.

I sent him an email a while ago, nice guy. He said he might scan the manga and release an English version (that he might also color) on Kindle. I also bought the volume to scan.
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>>153387486
So write one that doesn't.
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>>153388754
Neat, I found a dl for raws but the link is dead.
His resume says two comics published by kodansha but I can only find this one.
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>>153388991

He says his first one was Western, dunno if he still has the manuscript for that.

I'll reupload and fix the link.
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>>153349018
>10 years
You don't need that many years of practice, mediocre art with some generic cute anime girls would be enough
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>it's an EOP criticizes Japanese writing episode
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>>153388588
What did you read?
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>>153376778
I can't believe it honestly, it's like this shit is entirely made of meme magic, except it's real.
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>>153388588
If you pander to a very specific shit-eating audience, you can drop your quality to 0 and still sell a metric fuckton.

See: fetish art, kickstarter
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>>153390242
You can't believe that some random mediocre western artist stole a meme idea for his comic?
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>>153388754
>>153388991

http://www.mediafire.com/file/zo3oam89rwiw44d/
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Would you still consider them weeaboos?

I wouldn't.
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>>153390519
Wouldn't they just be hardcore weebs?
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>>153390381
Thanks.
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I personally despise it, and I'll tell you why.

Some years ago, I studied abroad in the magical land of nips with a bunch of other international students. And somehow, someway, one of "those guys" managed to slip through the cracks.

One of those socially retarted fuckwads that came to Japan explicitly to find a japanese waifu and bask in anime glory. The mother fucker actually cosplayed on a regular basis, in public, and in class. And because this was Japan, nobody ever said anything about it. The greasy haired fuck was the epitome of cringe, spouting off anime one liners and striking poses and shit. I seriously wondered why they never implemented a psych evaluation before sending students overseas.

Eventually, they booted him out of the school for poor attendance or grades or some shit, but in reality, I think they finally got proof of him stealing the girl's panties from the washing machines (another one of his favorite conversational topics) and booted him back to the states.

Now heres the kicker. Apparently, the greasewad had somehow tricked/smuggled his way back into Japan, outlined a manga story under a pseudonym, hired a pinoy artist to draw it, and managed to get serialized.

>yfw a manga you're reading could actually the product of an american social retard
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>>153358211
>>153358290
Oh, please. If you go to a Uni that isn't Dogshitsville College then your campus should be flooded with insular, rodent-like Asians. They travel in packs and speak horrid English. I can barely communicate with them much less try to start a romance with them.

Chinks are a blight, not a positive on a community.
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>>153391184
Are you jealous?
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>>153376778
Every day until we like it?
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>>153358651
I'd probably go by my last name since it's a Japanese-sounding name to begin with. Except for women.

レイナ
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>>153390801
A weeb is someone who:
-thinks Japan is superior to their home country
-favors irrationally everything Japanese
-conspicuously flaunts their affinity for Japanese related things
-probably wears an AoT hoodie around campus

A weeb is not someone who:
-is interested in Japanese media
-someone who has ties to otaku culture (in this case working as a mangaka)
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>>153348501

One of the tripfags from here is working with Shaft on something last I heard.
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>>153391634
>not a weeb
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>>153376778
Keit-ai already has a TV Tropes page, so stop posting it.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebOriginal/Keit-Ai
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>>153393117
Don't be stupid anon
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>>153393244
Sorry.
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>>153358205
She's fucking german too.

Everything checks out
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>>153394305
Now what?
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>>153395256
Remove the Eternal Kraut before he destroys europe for good this time
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>>153395289
But how?
>>
When will Japan realize that superior BWC is what they need to import instead of shitty white women
>>
They read Western comics and animation too, based on the RWBY, MLP, and Undertale I saw at Comiket, so that Westerners would publish mange in Japan is not that unusual.

I can think of more than one doujinshi artist who are Westerners who assimilated enough to the point where you couldn't even tell the work was written/drawn by a Westerner:
http://dynasty-scans.com/authors/randou_house
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>>153397689
>They read Western comics and animation too
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>>153397911
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>>153361795
you don't deserve to draw guy jean
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What about Megatokyo? Did it ever took off over there?
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>>153399627
I forgot about that.
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>>153399627
Megatokyo is about to explode!
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>>153356585
It's really good, and worth a pick-up. The story feels more shonen-esque in pacing than other comics too.
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>>153348501
They should die.
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>>153390069
index, 8man etc.
Ive head good things about Spice and Wolf, but ive seen the anime, so I cant be arsed to read that shit.

Anyways, im done with LNs unless something extremly good comes out, im good reading Dune and The Dark Tower series for now.
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>>153404849
>The Dark Tower
>movie adaptation
>blacked

Kek
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>>153406531
Can you even type coherently anymore?
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>>153349055
A group on /h/ is doing the same, and is faring considerably better. I dunno if there's been a thread up in months, but the discord's doing pretty well.
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>>153348501
THat's a sad body shape
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>>153348501

garbage art
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>>153348501
I know a guy in my college who's working on a "manga"
He already has like, I don't know what to call it, sponsors or something ready to buy and print the shit. So if you got the talent I guess good for you?
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>>153389569
We can make VN, but we can't make LN or manga, it makes no sense.
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>>153348501

What is the deal with her nose?
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>>153348501
>What's /a/'s opinion on westerners publishing manga in Japan?
If they can get the Japanese to buy it, oh well.
It's just toilet paper to me.
Like, why even fucking bother.
It's not manga. It's just Manga-Style Comics.
Only Japanese authors can create manga. Everyone else just makes a bad copy.
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>>153372229
Why was this deleted?
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I've nothing against it at all. Good for them.
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>>153408103
>Only Japanese authors can create manga. Everyone else just makes a bad copy.
Dumb weeb.
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>>153408159
Talk of pills.
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>>153348501

Depends on what you mean by "Westerners." If you're exclusively talking American, then fuck no. It is absolutely shit every time. I don't know about the standards for getting published in Japan, but Avatar: The Last Chairbender/ Legend of Whora and Scat Pillhead are the three most notable offenders here in the states, and they're all god-awful. As a kid, I wanted to be a "mangaka" more than anything, but then I realized, "Oh shit, I'm white, and all of this American trash is terrible," so I started reading a bunch of dictionaries and turned to novels instead. A way better decision than focusing on art, in retrospect-- you can do a lot more with words than pictures.

If by Westerners you also mean Europeans... well, the French had a thriving comics industry for a long time, and they tend to do romantic relationships a little better than their American counterparts. Despite having a pretty jarring art-style even for its time, Code Lyoko is almost universally well-received, and I'd basically consider that an "anime."
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>>153410887
>Avatar: The Last Chairbender/ Legend of Whora and Scat Pillhead are the three most notable offenders here in the states
What does this have to do with westerners publishing manga in Japan?
>then I realized, "Oh shit, I'm white, and all of this American trash is terrible,"
Weeb alert!
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>>153348501
shit[spoiler/]
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>>153410887
Breh, I hope you aren't a self-hating weeb white American.

Y'know that USA has their good stories as well, right? You shouldn't be cherry-picking on your own culture and hating it unless the country never gave a shit about you and tried to kill you by their army or by hunger (see China, Iran, etc.).
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>>153348501
Good on them, hope they find an audience for their work
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I'm still puzzled by how Save me Pythie sold so relatively well in Japan even though at least half of it is very french humor.
I'd guess because it still has a very pronounced tsukkomi-boke structure.
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>>153348823
>Neo-liberal
I don't think you know what that means.
Unless you're scared of Thatcherite propaganda taking over Japan, but they already closed down most of their mines down anyway.
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>>153361327
Ah but what about when /a/ tried to make a whole series about Troll-tan?
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Why aren't you publishing manga /a/?
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>>153411374
I'm not good enough.
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If I can read something and not tell if it was done by some westerner then who cares.
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>>153411098
France and Japan have a weird sort of gay relationship with each other. People in Japan have huge expectations of what Paris is like, to the point where it became a medical condition when they get sick out of their expectations being shattered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

Needless to say french are also huge weebs, being probably the biggest consumers of manga in the western world.
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>>153358651
Should sound pretty generic since my name means "Wise/Famous wolf"
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>>153352498
You understand you should probably stop making a fool of yourself, right?
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>>153412072
To be fair, even if you aren't Japanese, you'd be utterly shocked at the current state of Paris. It looks like a NY ghetto more than anything nowadays.
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>>153348736
What a stupid argument. I bet you think JRPGs also just mean "RPGs made in Japan" too, huh?
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>>153348501
You can spot them from miles away as they afraid to drawing nudity exactly as much as they would work for marvel or dc.
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>>153412535
>as they afraid to drawing nudity exactly as much as they would work for marvel or dc.
What?
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>>153412968
Never saw western "mangaka" drawing female nipples, and no way they would ever draw loli. They live by the Hays code no matter where they go.
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>Takashi, who has never before had anything to do with foreigners or foreign countries
>marries a foreigner
Sure sounds like a very responsible marriage decision. Did he mail-order her or what?
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>/a/ discussing other people's dreams and passions

okay.......
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>>153413227
We should know their dreams to crush it.
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>>153412535
Most manga doesn't have much if any nudity and plenty of western comics have nudity.
>>153413038
Shindol?
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>>153361539
Some people have dreams

Some people really cool dreams that are way better than shitty dreams some loser fucks have
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>>153413258
>Shindol
Isn't he a jap born in NYC?
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>>153348736

This.

It's just western comics made in Japan, thus absolute trash and I hope they leave and stop polluting nippon.
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>>153410965

>"I don't know about the standards for getting published in Japan, etc..."

...because I am not a weeaboo. In case you hadn't noticed, I exclusively named series that were published here in the states. If the standards for a white person to be published in Japan are as high as, or higher than the standards that the Japanese need to meet, I'm down to read whatever the fuck they publish (although, I would personally doubt that it would be any better than a below-average manga, just as many Japanese "American Football" players are below the abilities of American-born American Football players.)

>Weeb alert!
Yeah, no. I love me some sushi and all, but I'm exclusively talking about "Amerime`" and "Amerimanga." In other words: Shows that attempt to emulate the styles of anime and manga by regurgitating its most disgusting and repetitious tropes. Here's a great example from Canada:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mNXEw4FGeI

>>153411081

I promise you, I am not. Japan is undeniably one of our greatest allies... they have great food, beautiful architechture and women, and overall a very interesting culture, but we have the best constitution on the planet. In Japan, you can be thrown in jail merely for being accused of rape, and it's something like a 99% conviction rate irrespective of the evidence. No fucking thanks.

The USA has fantastic stories! That's why I decided to start writing novels instead of ceaselessly trying and failing to draw cringeworthy manga, like a fucking weeaboo would. Unfortunately, none of the stories which deliberately attempt to emulate the anime/ manga styles have turned out to be any good so far... again, see Scott Pilgrim as reference. That shit is fucking terrible.

(Actually, I take that back-- the episode of South Park that rips on anime was actually about 10x better than SAO by itself.)
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>>153413583
>In case you hadn't noticed, I exclusively named series that were published here in the states.
Why though? It has nothing to do with topic of thread.
>although, I would personally doubt that it would be any better than a below-average manga
Not sure why if they got through same publishing standards in Japan. Are you going to doubt the skills of a Japanese football player who makes it to the NFL?
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>>153413734

>Why is it related?

Shit that gets published in the states makes it to Japan all the time. Spongebob airs in Japan all the time. But we aren't talking about "cartoons" so much as "anime and manga," of which many people would classify the three series I mentioned as such despite that they fail relatively hard to emulate those styles.

>Football

There has not been a single Japanese player who has ever played a single game in the NFL, so I would doubt that it's even possible, yes. The only two that have ever come relatively close were both released at the end of training camp.

>>153413710

What? Where are you even from that you'd think I would get shot, Britain? Ausfailia? Why would I get shot just because I'm American? I don't live anywhere near any blacks or Muslims, I own a well-crafted gun for self-defense, I'm proficient in its use, and I don't keep it loaded/ keep the safety off/ fire it without checking the barrel like a fucking retard.

You are just distracting from this thread.
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>>153413887
The point is no one cares where you are form.
Go back to /pol/.
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She looks more like a (((Westerner))).
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>>153413910

...Somalia? Ethiopia? ...
...
...London? Sweden? Mexico? Oh gods, you poor, unfortunate soul...
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>>153413887
The topic was westerners publishing manga in japan, clearly not Avatar or Scott pilgrim which is why nobody brought it up until you did.
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>>153413974
I swear threads like these attract poltards like flies on shit.
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>>153348501
Absolute cancer.
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>>153348876
>Wow she must be very dedicated.
Zealous is the word.
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I like ShindoL's line of work to be quite honest.
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>>153348736
>>153414036
>>153413887
>>153413583
>American
>not from European
>white
Fuck off to /pol/, cancer
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>>153360547
it's not, it's an ln
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>>153413985

Well, the point I meant to illustrate by bringing all that up is this: If a Westerner is trying to perfectly emulate the Japanese style of artistry that we call "manga," historically-speaking, this is not something that I've ever seen done well... much like no Japanese has ever been able to play a game of American Football in the NFL. America simply does not have the correct infrastructure for aspiring mangka to properly develop their talents to the point where they will be able to market their product successfully in Japan as an authentically "Japanese" work. It will always appear Western with an "Asian flair." Seriously. Here's a video of Hideaki Anno teaching some Japanese schoolchildren how to animate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh0qbJAQhgk

You just don't have access to this kind of thing in the states-- access to experts in manga. The best kind of criticism you have is DeviantArt, which is a hugbox full of completely and utterly talentless twats that will never raise a single word of criticism. Alternatively: Tumblr, which is only slightly more talented, and much more crazy. Unless you were born in the west and moved to Japan almost immediately (in which case you can hardly even be called a "Westerner" so much as a "foreign national,") and you know the language like the back of your hand, you can't just ship your work to different publishing houses for criticism like most Japanese can. Most Westerners do not know even Japanese because it's a language that is utilized in only one, very small part of the world.

If I were to interpret the question as literally as possible, I would say that it is best for Westerners to stick to a Western style, because it's possible they could talk to Stan Lee or some sort of comics-senpai for advice.

>>153414034

...Jesus fucking Christ, you were with Her, weren't you?
---->/cm/
---->/lgbt/
---->/tumblr/
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>trying to guess where and who am I
>/pol/ reaction image
>...
I guess i'll just stop replying.
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I didn't give up on my light novel series. Music career just got in the way. Whether I can get another JP editor interested in turning it into manga after how bad things went with the first one remains to be seen, but I'm definitely not doing 3+ months on rewrites on 12 page chapters again. Even if I have to reboot TLoSR as a VN, I'll get it done eventually before I die.
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>>153414454
>Whether I can get another JP editor interested in turning it into manga after how bad things went with the first one
What happened?
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>>153376778
Stop posting that because it's already a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139
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>>153348501
They generally look bad.

But hey, follow your dreams.
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>>153414311
>It will always appear Western with an "Asian flair."
As an artist who has thought about this very subject for many years, I can tell you that this has more to do with artistic influences than anything. All western artists study the same handful of instructional resources (Bridgman, Loomis, Vilppu, Reilly, Etc) and thus, have the same "western" look to their work which is actually due to following the logic of classical western art. The primary reason that Anime looks so different is because it does not adhere as rigidly to those fundamental drawing ideas. Manga art is, quite literally, fundamentally different. This is also why it is difficult for western artists to emulate it. The underlying logic that western artists learn are applied differently or sometimes not at all in manga (which is why manga art is often labeled inferior from a technical standpoint). The fact is, manga art is all over the place stylistically whereas western, more classically trained artists, are more uniform and consistent. Japanese animators are a bit of a different story sometimes and are more in line with the western school of drawing due to the necessity of such logic to the actual process of animating.
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>>153414476
They wanted TLoSR, but a lot of compartmentalization and absolute control over when the serialization ended: minor arcs could only be about 3 chapters long and the story had to move at a pace where it could be cancelled at any point within 6 chapters. I ended up going with a spin-off, but 3 months of constant rewrites really took a toll on me. After the earthquake happened, the editor and I just kind of parted ways and I finished volume 2.

At some point during volume 3 I started working as a musician and my health took a sharp turn. I'm getting better regarding health and got to work with TRIGGER and Capcom, but I don't have enough contacts that would just allow me to start a manga serialization on my own terms, and music commissions keep me really busy. I haven't done any music for myself in a year, and writing is happening very slowly, even though my extensive tismo notes and outlines keep piling up.

Still really want to do it, although I'd rather not try my hand at crowfunding if I could avoid it. Life just got in the way and I am not getting any younger.
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Follow your dreams, anons.
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>>153348501
If it was made in Japan, it's manga. It doesn't matter whether or not the person doing it is Japanese by blood or not, that's retarded. It'd be like saying that Scooby Doo is a manga characters because he was designed by a Japanese cartoonist in America.

That being said, if a gaijin has the actual talent and drive to go to Japan and produce a manga, good for them. I don't give a shit about ethnicity, their talent and work ethic are all that matter.
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>ctrl+f
>no hentai
There must be some perverted westerners trying to corrupt pure Yamato souls.
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>>153415159
>ShindoL
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>>153348501
You mean like Stan Lee working with the author of Shaman King?

Who cares retard
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>>153414145
But that's a photoshop of putin's daughter.
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>>153413974
With that typing style you're welcome to fuck right back to ray-did or whatever shithole you crawled from.
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>>153414311
>He doesn't even know how to cross-link
>>>/reddit/
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>Western = American
How do we solve the Amerirat problem?
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>>153417650
It's simple, we kill the Amerifat
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>>153348501
I wish her good luck.
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>>153414310
I think he was referring to the manga adaption.
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>>153358136
Wonder how many years before some stupid shit arises for Germany like Paris Syndrome.
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>>153421755
It's too late for Germany. Nazis ruined it forever. Now they are trying to atone for their sins but they're just making it worse for everyone living there.
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>>153357751
Dude I live in Alabama and we have more Koreans than Hispanics here, not to even mention all those other slanty-eyed flavors.
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>>153357460
EXCEPT KOREANS
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>>153359995
>Tokyo
well there's your answer as to why
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I struggle to call it manga or anime. That's like saying RWBY or Avatar is anime.

I also wish they fucking wouldn't. I fear that they will drag their shitty opinions/ideas/philosophies into the medium and ruin it like they did American cartoons. You have to remember that anime is as much a mindset and culture as it is a form of entertainment.
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>>153422404
Silly anon, don't you know that Japan only takes what it likes and disregards the rest? If they take anything from these westerners they'll just modify it to suit their tastes. Manga at least is no where near as stiff as western comics so you don't have to worry about it going stale. You know I haven't even read these comics so I can't even say it's bad or not. I really don't think it will have a negative affect on their culture either way.
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