Re:Zero

>>153300179
not before 2018

>>153300254
That's too generous.

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>>153300513
When she wakes up.

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>>153300746
I miss her so much..

>>153300746
See you in ten years

>>153300179
Never, read the LN

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https://mega.nz/#!ZM8wQR5B!MTHf19ppPfX9RFfrwTzTwoCRfuQYljkkigjbmDyjjtE

I FUCKING LOVE EMILIA

>>153300999
>Once, someone did point out that Subaru was like this, and starting from there—
Even now, she helps him.

>>153300999
>Subaru: “Where I'm from, silence means yes. Alright, 'scuse me here.”
So why hasn't he fucked Rem?

>>153300179
Never.

>>153300999
He From Zero'd Emilia, nice.

>>153300179
https://vid.me/LXrv

remember, "Owari da!" still can turn it into a lighter Webm to post it here but fuck it

Season 2 NEVER EVER!

Hopefully never.

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Every thread until Rem wakes up.

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>>153300999
Is it bad I feel a little sour that Subaru is doing this mostly to save Sanctuary and not help Emilia?

>>153300179
Wait for 2018

>>153302284
Nothing wrong with killing two birds with one stone.
...
Yeah, it kinda cheapens it a bit.

>>153300746
How many children are we to expect from her and Subaru once she wakes up?

>>153302284
>>153302348
Maybe it's intentional, to show he definitely cares but his feelings aren't actually this deep

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>>153302284
I've been sour with him since Arc 2-3

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>>153302486
At least 2. And from the low probability of an Oni female getting pregnant we can assume they will be fucking a lot.

>>153303067
I was wondering, for those that actually know about inheritance: is it possible for a child of Rem to come out with pink hair? Since the genes for that variation exist in Rem's family.

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>>153303202
Hair color is usually codominant so if Rem is blue from these parents it's because she only inherited the color from the father

>>153300999
>He sighs, and the instant he drains of his strength the sickness he forgot about jolts him. He
impulsively puts his hand to the wall, just barely managing to keep himself from puking.

Wait what is happening here? Could someone tell me what the "sickness" Subaru is referring to is?

>>153304483
He is perpetually beset by nausea as long as he stays in the tomb

>>153303067

I think that was pretty heavily implied in the if story, no?

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>>153306846
Rem is too innocent.

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>>153300179
Spring 2017

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>>153306921
so bold

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Here, a shitty, quick sketch of the kissu.

>>153308144
Remfags on suicide watch.

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>>153308144
>half elf half shallow character
ddddropped

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Remon posted the translation of the second birthday chapter in the last thread if anyone missed it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VQgJpgbYvBuTWbsmBivzUK87RSPar-BRiWJgXZAVEQQ/edit?usp=sharing

>>153308144
>>153308223
Emilia will die, you watch.

>>153302934
Wait for it anon, it gets better while also getting worse.

>>153308144
For a quick sketch that is pretty damn good

>>153308561
I'm still on Arc 4 :d

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>>153308144
>>153308223

>Emiliafags

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>>153302486
What I'm hoping is for him to wake her up with a kiss, but for her to appear confused when he asks her if she knows who he is. Then after he's done freaking out, Rem could suggest that maybe another kiss would restore her memories and goes for it.

That's when Subaru catches on to the fact that she remembered all along, though she feigns ignorance when he brings it up. But if she did do that, that's what he deserves for taking her first kiss while she was unconscious and unable to experience it. Of course, if she did plan out such a petty revenge, maybe another kiss would help her recall it.

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>>153309227
this is really good i like it

>>153300999
Thanks
Nice trips

>>153308223
>kissu part of keikaku
>never showed any interest of kissing her again

Oh no. Nothing happens between them for the rest of the story. Why is that, anon- kun?

>>153310114
Well, he later says he's willing to kiss her again when she brings it up, but that never goes anywhere even after her mistake about babies is cleared up.

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>Subaru: “I love your super pretty silver hair, I love your amethyst eyes and how when they're wet they look like jewels, I super love your voice and how I get dreamy just from hearing it, and your slender long legs and your pale skin, and our height difference and all of that is so to my ideal I can't stand it, just being with you makes my heart race I can't stop it and oh god I love you.”

>Emilia: “—”

>Subaru: “I love how you're just a little dopey, it's adorable how you put your best into everything, I revere how fervent you get for other people's sakes, I think the way you disregard yourself can't be left unattended, and all of your expressions, and all of your emotions, are things where if I could witness them from your side, nothing could be better... I am always thinking this.”


Confessions make me hard

>>153310287
What a man. Would only kiss if asked.

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>>153300179
When remfags realize shes waifubait. And non cannon has no relevency at all.

So never

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>>153308144
Have another pic from that scene

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>>153300999
That was very good, they really clashed at each other, their faults and their frustration, they really where sincere, and people says that they're aren't a couple...
also, his words and the narration pretty much confirmed that his love is so deep that he will always love her no matter what, all the really long build up for this conversation was worth it.

>>153310483
>Close enough to butt heads, both their eyebrows lowered, Subaru and Emilia howl their feelings. With spit flying, faces red, yelling 'No you're wrong!', having never before raised their voices at each other before, these two.

>>153308144
Volkswagen just got hafu-elfu'ed pretty hard.

>>153310517
I recognize this image naming style.

>>153310517
>his love is so deep
You sure about that? All the broken promises, loving another girl, him giving up on saving her just after a few tries. Such deep love, indeed.

>>153310724
>All the broken promises

Get the fuck out Emilia, you have work to do.

>>153310724
>giving up on saving her
what

>>153310821
Ep 18. Duh.

>>153310842
Oh, yeah, I completely forgot about that.

>>153310724
All this bullshit, such a good argument, indeed.

>>153310842
He went through a period of madness and breakdown.

>>153310724
>All the broken promises

Hold that thought though.

>>153310893
It's all true. What of it is bullshit?

>>153310907
Does this change anything? He gave up on her and was willing to let her die. If his love was really deep than he would have tried over and over again.

>>153300999
Actually, would Rem screaming at him and then kissing him in From Zero made things better of worse?

>>153310907
And Subaru is going through a literal "hell" labeled by adventurers and Reinhardt couldn't beat to save Rem.

Apparently dying isn't so bad when an oni is on the line.

>>153311041
That would have been the end of the Emilia romance but story must go on so.

>>153310842
but after that he gained a new resolve so the benefit of the doub should be gifen to him

then again the fact that the relationship didn't progress in 1 fucking year is a massive flag but it depends if this stems from him effectively not taking steps

>>153311041
She did yell at him a little bit, and she did kiss him on the forehead. They just didn't have a big dumb shouting match where they were both saying stuff that didn't really make sense.

>>153311041
I'd say that it'd have been worse. It's just not to my taste.

>>153311017
Things could have gone so bad for the clown. That's his just desserts for not keeping the baby time traveler on a shorter leash

>>153310945
Because none of that account for validation of his feelings for her, if you read the chapter you would know that breaking promises is not enough for him, he weights that completely different from Emilia, his love for Rem is different part of his feelings, and
he didn't give up on saving her because love, it was because for he thought it was damn impossible because he is useless.

those are all pretty ridiculous arguments cherrypicked out of context.

>>153310893
All of what he said is true though?

Emilia is the worst thing to have happened to this story, isn't it?

>>153311017
>he would have tried over and over again.
That's awfully romantic, same thing happened in Steins;gate and those thoughts would arise after seeing your love and secondary love die in front of you multiple times.

>>153311158
>he weights that completely different from Emilia

That's such a lie of you take into consideration all the promises he kept to Rem likes its some sort of sacred vow.

>>153311158
>he didn't give up on saving her because love
He doesn't exactly stay hung up on her death for very long. The point being, he's willing to give up on Emilia after a relatively short series of tries. He's lived hundreds of years in the Echidna AU and has yet to give up on Rem even though his lack of progress is frustrating.

>>153311132
Actually, he really fucked up in Rem IF. His keikaku completely failed, he pretty much let everything he had get completely destroyed and Subaru ain't dying anytime soon. Probably committed suicide.

>>153311238
I don't think they expected Rem to be so popular because Emilia is so fitting to the storyline in terms of being MC's girl, even if she isn't best girl.

>>153311158
Anon, Subaru makes promises with Emilia and Rem but he breaks the ones with Emilia. He fell in love with Rem AFTER he decided to go for Emilia. He gave up on Emilia after dying a couple of times. This is not out of context. All of this are valid arguments that his love for Emilia isn't deep at all. It doesn't matter what Subaru says if he can't back it up with actions.

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>>153311335
>Emilia is so fitting to the storyline in terms of being MC's girl

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>>153311335
>Emilia is so fitting to the storyline in terms of being MC's girl

I have so many things I can use to argue that position actually.

>>153311300
Because his promises to Rem amounts to saving her, which is nothing he didn't already did promised for Emilia and acomplished it.

>>153311305
> he's willing to give up on Emilia after a relatively short series of tries.

Again, you're being dishonest and cherrypicking information, calling it "short series of tries" doesn't diminish the weight and difficulty of the task he had to do in the least, he tried and suffered many things in that loop.

Also he is a machine in AU Echidna, he was willing to die hundred times for every little thing.

>>153311482
>legit arguments
>cherrypicking
Okay. How about you argue as to why Subaru loves her and how is he showing it.

>>153311369
This actually sort of had me thinking. So in this chapter we get a lot of 'I love Emilia' and we do get reasons beyond her appearance, but they still all sort of largely fall into the bucket of 'You're my fetish fuel and it makes my heart go doki doki'

We obviously got a speech like this from Rem regarding Subaru, but not really so much one from Subaru regarding Rem. A few scattered lines here and there for what he thinks of Rem, but not a big list of 'I love Rem because x, y, and z'

But the thing is, their relationship is built on action, not just an enumerated list or saying 'I love you' a bunch. The audience didn't need to be told Rem loves Subaru, because its obvious. We know she likes watching him sleep, and messing with him, etc and we know Subaru likes the attention Rem gives him and was fond of leaning on her support. His anger at the cult regarding her lets us know how much he cares and really, we don't have a lot of the same going for EMT here. Emilia is in the right for saying he doesn't care because he breaks the things most precious to her, and he never once gives a good justification for doing so, just 'Know that I love you and I want to stay with you, even if I'm a complete fuck up who is going to make you cry a lot'

Its just kind of weird all around, it makes me wonder what the endgame to all of this is going to resolve to.

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>>153311482
That actually isn't true, as even the pettiest of promises are kept. Remember when Subaru says that they would talk to each other and ask each other things during episode 11? Yeah, he's been doing that everyday. Even then, there is also this.

>But recently, she had become less satisfied. She wanted more precious promises about the future. Even though Subaru would give a wry smile while he agreed to the promises Rem made, he never refused her selfish desires. So Rem's love could only grow bigger and bigger.

>>153311369
how hard to understand is the difference between "holy shit I can't do this because I'm still a shitty otaku who was holed up in my room not a long ago" and "holy shit I don't even love her this much I will give up" is to you ?

Honestly, him giving up on Emilia so quickly was because he himself was a fragile person at that time. When "Who is Rem" happened, he had become much more confident and mentally stronger in general. It's not necessarily though it may have a part in it about the degree of his love, but more about the degree of his willingness and devotion to anything

>>153311482
>tried and suffered in that loops

And it was enough to make him give up on her. Not very convincing desu.

>>153311595
I already said this when you came up with your bullshit.

>>153311623
and so what ? he did dated with Emilia as promised and talked with her every morning as well.

>>153311629
Alright, argue me this then, why did he move on in the Rem IF while in the MU Subaru is unable to enter any romantic relationship because of rem?

>>153311706
He can still save Rem. Emilia is dead. There's a big difference

>>153310417
No wonder Rem's waifubait, she has a better story and character than elf abomination.

>>153311701
>he did dated with Emilia as promised and talked with her every morning as well

Stopped after arc 4.

>>153311482
>Again, you're being dishonest and cherrypicking information, calling it "short series of tries" doesn't diminish the weight and difficulty of the task he had to do in the least, he tried and suffered many things in that loop.
Yeah, and the most important one was Rem dying, getting twistered and deleted if he keeps playing this game. He didn't want to keep trying because he would keep getting Rem killed. Yes yes, he is also mad about Ram, Emilia and the others in the village, but that's not where the personal visceral anger comes from. He couldn't even be assed to bring up saving Emilia as a reason for taking out the witch cult.

>Also he is a machine in AU Echidna, he was willing to die hundred times for every little thing.
This furthers my point, not counters it. He is a total psycho who has given up on basically everything, more or less including Emilia for the sake of his stated and autistic goal of putting a broken girl on the throne. Except he still wants Rem. The potato is basically useless, there's no real reason to even keep her around, but he still does, despite making no progress on any front to recovery.

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>>153311621
Emilia feeling so forced made me come up with a crack theory in that it's all intentional and Tappei wants to succed where Anno failed with Rei in Evangelion

all this wishful thinking is hurting me

>>153311757
>30. Subaru becomes totally worthless when there is no way to save Rem. (zetsubou to the max)

Oh?

>>153311629
How hard is it to understand that " holy shit I'm a useless otaku but if I keep trying I might find a way because I have unlimited amounts of tries and I really love her and want to be with her" would be the more appropriate reaction?

>>153311809
Huh?

>>153311826
I think he is stating that he becomes an empty husk aka "worthless" when there is no way to save Rem.

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>>153311770
Wouldn't this mean that Emilia is the real waifubait?

>>153311817
Well, in his mindset at the time the "but if I keep trying I might find a way because I have unlimited amounts of tries" didn't exist

>>153311877
No, where did the 30 come from. Source?

>>153311701
All you said was "he loves her because he said so" while disregarding all of his actions that contradict that matter

>>153311706
because the IF is completely 100% wish fulfillment and was written primarily to showcase cute Rem/Subaru interactions, not to realistically explore anything serious. You can't possibly be using this as an argument for anything.

>>153311689
of course it was, he was tortured, he saw a band of crazy cultists killing eveyone, the ones he could call for help trolled him, his stupid actions led to the death of the girl he loved, and there is an ancient whale which even the kingdom don't want to deal about is keeping him from reaching his destination in time, now weight this in a person who values himself as worse than ratshit.
of course he will give up.

>>153311706
Because it's an IF, it doesn't matter if it's not the natural course of the story, the only thing that matters is to make it happy fans.

>>153311772
And what ? where on arc 6, there is like 5 arcs to go with this about.

>>153311932
For a character to be waifubait they have to be likeable.

>>153311933
http://pastebin.com/xw5a9eUD

This was all taken during a interview with Tappei

>>153311941
They're both in character, aside from Rem having decided to leave. Serious subject matter is covered in them, notably how Rem didn't get over her insecurities, and for 100% wish fulfillment Ram is still pretty fucking dead and Rem is still pretty fucking torn up about it.

The talk about memories in this chapter is 100% foreshadowing/thematic buildup for when Subaru recovers his memories of Satella

>>153312056
Probably, or something similar to that anyway.

>>153311984
>of course it was, he was tortured, he saw a band of crazy cultists killing eveyone, the ones he could call for help trolled him, his stupid actions led to the death of the girl he loved, and there is an ancient whale which even the kingdom don't want to deal about is keeping him from reaching his destination in time, now weight this in a person who values himself as worse than ratshit.
of course he will give up.

Problem is that he experienced worse during Arcs 4 and 6. But he still didn't give up. If anyhting.

>——-Thus, Natsuki Subaru would be the one to go
>There were countless others who were stronger.
>There were countless others who were more reliable.
>There were countless others who were wiser.
>There were countless others of class who were more wonderful.
>But Natsuki Subaru would ignore all of that, and he would be the one to go. He did this only because he wanted to be praised by this girl after he saved her.

And this was even when he was told that even Reinhardt, the Sword Saint couldn't beat the tower. Not to mention where his priorities lies when it came to who he wanted to save from Elsa being Rem or Emilia, he chose Rem, again.

>>153311984
>And what ? where on arc 6, there is like 5 arcs to go with this about.
Didn't do it in arc 1
Did it in arc 2 and the month between arcs
Didn't in arc 3
Didn't in arc 4
Didn't in arc 5
Doesn't in arc 6

What was your point about arcs again?

>>153312002
Oh, thanks.
Though, I think he would feel way more depressed about it because by the time he realizes that he can't save he has much more connections and power than when he tried to save Emilia. That he still couldn't save her leaves a much bigger impact since he doesn't make excuses about himself being a worthless neet who can't do anything

>>153311941
Its almost as if you never read the IF chapters.

>“Rem’s birthday…. she completely forgot about it. Because…. Rem always believed she had no right to celebrate it.”
>“-------”
>“Rem left behind Nee-sama, who was born on the very same day…. even though she knew it was such a terrible thing, but….”
>“Yeah, tell me anything. I’ll listen to you.”
>“----n. Rem was always worried, if she’s allowed to be this happy.”
>That tearful voice, the same one Rigel heard just hours ago. Yet this time, it feels strained with a deep guilt.
>And from his mother’s mouth, the surprise of an unfamiliar word. “Nee-sama”. But what truly surprises Rigel is that, far beyond what he imagined, his parents’ past is heavy and painful.

Its sad as fuck.

>>153312119
During Arc 4 and 6, his pain tolerance is much higher, so you can't really use that. After arc 3, he's much more stubborn about pretty much anything, it's not necessarily the degree of his love

>>153312002
>6. If Subaru didn't go to another world, his dad would have helped him get out of his hikkikomori status, married an underclassman who is a lot like Rem, and would have lived a normal happy life. (Satella plz why)
>16. Rem's: "From Zero!" Line was the goal and dream of the author when he first started writing this. (Rem:Zero kara hajimaru Isekai Seikatsu)
>29. (SPOILERS) So far in the entire setting, Subaru only chooses suicide when its 'To Save Rem'. Unless it's an IF route, there is no chance he will ever pick suicide for personal gain/happiness. (forever suffering)
>30. Subaru becomes totally worthless when there is no way to save Rem. (zetsubou to the max)

wew lad

>>153312119
That's the problem. If he loved her so much and 'would always love her NO MATTER WHAT' then he would've tried over and over again no matter how much pain and torture he had to endure. Rem is a prime example. Despite being tortured and having all limbs broken, all she cared about was to save Subaru until she died.

>>153312119
You can't compare Subaru at his lowest point in arc 3 to him in future arcs, especially arc 6. He grew a lot as a character then.

>Not to mention where his priorities lies when it came to who he wanted to save from Elsa being Rem or Emilia, he chose Rem, again.

also, what is this referencing?

>>153312293
>[Emilia: Yeah. I think that’s right. Subaru will devote himself to that girl for a while, and he might stop caring about me as well.]

We'll see about that.

>>153312293
And why is that exactly? Did something happen then that seemed to greatly influence him? You like skirting around this and acting like him becoming stronger isn't exactly the point, because he sure as hell didn't do that for Emilia.

>>153312293
First you say ' cherry picking arguments' and now you come up with that bs you can't even back up? Fuck off you hypocrite.

>>153311775
> Emilia and the others in the village, but that's not where the personal visceral anger comes from. He couldn't even be assed to bring up saving Emilia as a reason for taking out the witch cult.

But it was a reason, he even despised Petelgeuse for regarding Emilia just as a disposable tool. there is no evidence that he was concerned more to Rem than Emilia and the rest of the villagers.

> more or less including Emilia for the sake of his stated and autistic goal of putting a broken girl on the throne. Except he still wants Rem. The potato is basically useless, there's no real reason to even keep her around, but he still does, despite making no progress on any front to recovery.

you fail to realize the point of this AU, he didn't regarded anyone as useless, he just stopped caring about what they will turn out if he saved them with Echidna's help which ignored everything else, even if Rem wake up in this loop she would end pretty different than before in the future.

>>153312355
>also, what is this referencing?
In one of the loops in arc 4 where Elsa attacks and kills almost everyone Subaru rushes to Rem's room to commit double suicide in order to avoid her being "violated" (gutted)

>>153312418
>there is no evidence that he was concerned more to Rem than Emilia and the rest of the villagers.
See 'doesn't bring up helping Emilia as a reason for beating the witch cult' in the very post you quoted mr. retarded cherry picker. It was kind of a big deal, Crusch wouldn't help him because of it.

>he just stopped caring about what they will turn out if he saved them with Echidna's help which ignored everything else
That's some deep love he's got for Emilia there, really proving your point.

>>153312355
>The passage ends. He made it to the staircase. Run up the spiral stairway and he will enter the mansion. Enter the mansion and then what. Someone who, someone there, someone to, save, Emilia, Rem?

>Subaru: “Rehm...”
>Please let no disaster reach her.

>If it's ending, then at least let it be at her side. At the side of the single girl in the world to whom Subaru could expose his weakness. Leaving a trail of blood and half-leaning on the wall, his minuscule willpower turns to tenacity as Subaru arrives just before his destined room—Rem's bedroom

Chapter 34, World Ending.

>>153312391
I don't even like Emilia that much and only joined the discussion recently.
But yeah, that's a good point, Rem has made a much bigger impact on him than Emilia could ever achieve. Though I think that Rem made him a stronger person wasn't because he was in love with her. I mean, he was, but it's more that Rem is just a great motivational speaker.

>>153312293
>After arc 3, he's much more stubborn about pretty much anything
What? I thought post-From Zero Subaru is very based. I think it's either I'm wrong or you are simply making shit up.

>>153312418
Even Crusche called him out on that 'you didn't say once that you want to save Emilia'.

>>153300179
Emilia stuff aside

>Subaru: “—Hey, kept you waiting.”
>???: “Tch.”
>There, clicking their tongue in irritation as Subaru gives a wave—
>???: “—Whatever, ain't like I was waitin' any.”
>—with his body slathered in blood and hostility in his eyes, stood Garfiel.

Onto further Subaru plots provided Garf doesn't jump kick his skull in.

>>153312411
I didn't say that, I'm a different guy. And it's obvious that he's mentally much tougher now than arc 3, why would you argue that? It could still be that he loves Rem more, but it's not necessarily that.

>>153312583
>And it's obvious that he's mentally much tougher now than arc 3
And why is that? Is there something driving him to be tougher? Some ideal he doesn't want to betray?

>>153312471
Yes, but how is that a choice between Emilia or Rem? Emilia wasn't even at the mansion at the time. Unless you're trying to say he wouldn't have tried to do the same for Emilia, which is debatable since there is no equivalent situation post arc 3.

>>153312520
Is stubborn the wrong word? I meant to say that he's become much more competent and confident about himself after From Zero. He IS based

>>153312623
Emilia was being hunted by Elsa, the more obvious choice was to try and book to her location to warn her. But instead he chose to go to Rem's bedroom.

>>153312643
Stubborn is more or less correct, I think the other anon is misreading what you're saying. Although a better one might be 'determined' since it doesn't have the negative connotations.

>>153312679
>Emilia was being hunted by Elsa
She's not at the mansion and isn't a target beyond being a personal one for Elsa generally. She's not part of the current contract.

Now, he was willing to kill Rem himself to keep her from being 'defiled' but didn't really think it was important to do the same or even warn Emilia that she was about to be up to her asshole in rabbits.

>>153311986

Maybe it's just me but when I think waifubait I think characters that are basic as hell but look pretty. Like it's just supposed to have a negative connotation about the character and people who like the character. If the character is well developed then you can't really call them waifubait because there's more going on than good looks and an easily relateable and simple personality. Maybe I'm wrong though.

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>>153311986
I thought waifubait was a derogatory term to indicate a character thoroughly crafted to appeal to the audience, especially by being fetishized on some aspect, but that falls flat either because the attempt at engineering an audience reaction is apparent or because the character results rather bland despite being paritcularly pushed on the forefront.

>>153312733
Also tried checking on Rem first before realizing she was a hot potato and dragging his ass over to Emilia.

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>>153312619
Its almost as if he wanted to become "Rem's hero" or something

>>153312643
Never mind. For some reasons, I thought "stubborn" meant "arrogant" so I misinterpreted what you said.

>>153312583
People don't change over night. There is no time skip between arc 3 and 4 so don't tell me that 'he's much tougher and has more pain resistance now'.

>>153312159
Are you stupid or what ? he only confessed to her in the Arc 3 and Arc 4 happens imediately after Arc 3.

>>153311938
The fact that they can be sincere about each other and see their faults and frustrations (Subaru saying pretty clearly that Emilia wasn't a goddess, she was just an ordinary girl asserted that he could see her faults and still accept her, Emilia pointing out his faults and acknowledging her faults too) was some of the reasons why I thought that, that's why I liked the chapter, but why my point of view in that is relevant to you anyway ?

If we are debating about deep love and shit can we also take into consideration that Subaru only ever shows his "weak side" to Rem? While trying to cover it up infront of Emilia?

>>153312813
What? He totally does. The bullshit here would've busted pre-From Zero Subaru. It was still kicking his shit in because he was mostly trying to shoulder everything himself with Rem gone, so its not perfect, but he's clearly much tougher than before. Even when he got devoured it was his body that gave out and not his resolve.

>>153312813
I'm pretty sure Subaru was about to give up everything again before Lust scene happened.

>>153312813
Well, he contemplates suicide MUCH more often, despite doing it exactly once before. His attitude changed a lot. He also hasn't really given up till now, even though the situation is arguably worse than arc 3. It's fair to say he's tougher and more apathetic to death than before.

>>153311932
Wasn't using her as waifubait literally Roswaal's plan for her? HEr role is obviously to grow out of that.
>>153311369
>It doesn't matter what Subaru says if he can't back it up with actions.
Eh, I kind of dislike these kinds of arguments. It's all just personal bias being thrown around.
>>153311335
>because Emilia is so fitting to the storyline in terms of being MC's girl, even if she isn't best girl.
My opinion on this matter depends on exactly what you mean by this. For the story of slowly turning his isekai fantasy into a reality through hard work and effort, despite it originally having been nothing more than a silly dream? Sure.

Still, I always wonder why people think Rem is best girl in the first place. I have my own very particular reasons for liking her. Somewhere on the bottom of that laundry list is something about me liking her interactions with Subaru better than Emilia's.

I'll make no pretenses of being objective, but I'll say this now. My first impression of Emilia was way higher than my first impression of Rem. It was actually the translated short stories and chapters which got me to seriously start liking her, as well as the idea of her and Subaru together. Other people might point out From Zero or her sacrifices for Subaru's sake, but my disposition is of the sort that I don't react to a character death unless I already like the character. Motivational speeches don't mean much to me either. I'm not a "big moment" type of guy when it comes to character preferences.

And now I forgot my point. I guess the fact of the matter is that for whatever reasons, one of the reasons why Rem is "best girl" is because they like her dynamic with Subaru. Not because of any particular admirable qualities she shares with a huge portion of the cast.

>>153312491
>See 'doesn't bring up helping Emilia as a reason for beating the witch cult' in the very post you quoted mr. retarded cherry picker. It was kind of a big deal, Crusch wouldn't help him because of it.


>points out cherry picking information
>b-but I'm not cherrypicking you're cherrypicking!

stop with this retarded throwback
also do you know that the cult didn't only attacked Rem right ? he was angry for everyone who died, what Crusch pointed out is that he was mad about revenge and was forgotting what really matters to the conversation, which doesn't mean that he ONLY was mad because Rem.

>>153312836
>Are you stupid or what ? he only confessed to her in the Arc 3 and Arc 4 happens imediately after Arc 3.
Are you? You said there's 5 arcs where Subaru talks to Emilia every morning when there are not.
>he did dated with Emilia as promised and talked with her every morning as well
>Stopped after arc 4.
>And what ? where on arc 6, there is like 5 arcs to go with this about.

Must be hard to not be able to follow a single train of thought for more than 2 posts.

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Am I the only one who couldn't care less about this Emilia/Rem shit and just finds watching people argue about it funny?

>>153312990
>which doesn't mean that he ONLY was mad because Rem.
Literally said this in my first post dumbass, but Rem is the visceral trigger for this. When he gets ranty, he gets ranty because they killed Rem. They'll kill everyone else sure, but Rem getting twistered was the big one.

>>153313053
Probably not? Although that pic reminds me. Filthy one night stand between Ram and Emilia when? Emilia has some pent up Oni lust to take care of.

>>153312914
>>153312919
>>153312964
It's clear that his resolve to save Rem is bigger than his fear of constant death and pain but my point was that he's physically not tougher than he was in arc 3.

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>>153312965
>Wasn't using her as waifubait literally Roswaal's plan for her? HEr role is obviously to grow out of that.

I just noticed a crucial detail through this entire story. Everyone is forcing Subaru and Emilia together that it takes ransom, threats and kekaikus for them to stay together. Yet with Rem and Subaru those two are being constantly pulled apart yet they both somehow find a way to be together despite all of it. But that could be my bias, though arc 4 seems to be supporting my bias.

>>153313017
>Are you? You said there's 5 arcs where Subaru talks to Emilia every morning when there are not.

I said Subaru talked with Emilia every morning in the arc 2, at that time he wasn't even sure about his feelings, only on the end of the Arc 3 he really confessed to her, which he couldn't do in the beggining, counting those arcs as equal was my point on your retarded argument and you where incapable to even think about it.

>>153313156
I totally meant his mental toughness, should have clarified

>>153313156
>but my point was that he's physically not tougher than he was in arc 3.
No shit sherlock, Subaru sucks. I don't think anyone here has made any reference to physical toughness, nor are they ever going to.

>>153312879
If we're going into that territory, lets also talk about the meme-flirting.

>>153313190
No, actually, I said mentally tougher in the original post, what the hell did you misunderstand

>>153312965
>Emilia
Well, I'm still on arc 5, but I imagine the ending of re:zero will be that Emilia gets her body stolen, then there's this cycle of confusion within MC related to his love for Emilia or love for the witch. Keeping MC loving Emilia is essential for that foreseeable ending.

>>153313163
I literally linked your 'argument' in its entirety, you make no such distinction, claim or position. You exactly said that it doesn't matter that he stops doing it after arc 4 because somehow there's 5 arcs where he does it, when he doesn't and that doesn't even remotely make sense, you're just stupid as shit.

If you felt like talking about something else, you actually need to talk about that something else, its literally not possible for someone to read your mind of the internet to fill in all the gaps for the shit you keep claiming you say, but don't.

>>153313163
Not the anon you're replying to but I did say he indeed did stop doing that after arc 4. Not to mention his little "dates" with Emilia halted completely.

>>153313053
I wouldn't say I find it funny but no, you're not alone there. Also, nice edit

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>>153313226
I loved how Ram kicked him out of the carriage for that

>>153313226
The meme flirting is pretty bad, it mostly just confuses her. I suppose after 6 or so arcs she's finally started responding to it a little, but it still not great.

>>153312965
>I don't like these kinds of arguments
>now read my opinion about X
Kind of a dick you're.

How about Rem is likable because she has actual visible development, is relatable and has an loveable personality?

>>153313261
So you expect Rem to become a non-factor by then?

>>153300179
>Subaru: “Where I'm from, silence means yes. Alright, 'scuse me here.”
This is so problematic. I can't even, literally shaking like Betelgeuse here.

>>153313409
Not him but the thing is that its mostly displayed with her dynamics with Subaru. Even Ram, her sister takes note of this. Not to mention all of her visible development is attributed to Subaru's influence, and the same goes for Subaru through Rem's influence.

>>153312619
Alright, that's fair enough.

>>153313411
Unfortunately, or strung along to the end and continue being that friend; no matter what happens to Emilia (life or death).

>>153313505
what

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Speaking of promises, I wonder how many thousand needles Subaru is going to swallow for breaking promises to Emilia by the end of the series.

>>153313559
Its a good thing he can RbD

>>153313058
She was the trigger for him to stop the mental breakdown state he was, the rage itself was because everyone, this does not make her special, when Petelgeuse tried the same shit on Emilia's corpse he was screaming for him to stop the same way.

>>153313053
>filthy one night stand

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>>153313579
>Checkpoint too far

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>>153310114
>People say Subaru's love for Emilia is deep
>No relationship progress for over a year
>Doesn't enjoy being praised by Emilia
>Is now at the point where Subaru has to convince himself that he still likes Emilia

His love for Emilia may be deep, but its definitely not deep in a romantic sense.

>>153313522
It's like saying that Subaru is the main character and the story follows just him. Oh wait it does.

>>153313581
>Petelgeuse tried the same shit on Emilia's corpse he was screaming for him to stop the same way.
Yes and? What does that have to do with this conversation with Crusch
>B-b-but if you take this future event and think Subaru was psychic and knew it would happen he was just as mad during his talk with Crusch about Emilia as Rem. In fact, he was just as mad about Henehehe as Rem. Please ignore him specifically bringing up Rem, that ruins my point and I only like cherry picking facts.

>>153313704
What arc/chapter was the conversation?

>>153313291
>I literally linked your 'argument' in its entirety

You did not, you mistook what I said and then come with a logic on it, which is already flawed because It's based on something I didn't said and it's completely wrong as well.

>You exactly said that it doesn't matter that he stops doing it after arc 4 because somehow there's 5 arcs where he does it, when he doesn't and that doesn't even remotely make sense, you're just stupid as shit.


Holy shit, do I have to draw logic for you ? I said even if nothing happened between them in the time skip between Arc 4 and Arc 5 (and even this is dubious), there is a lot of other arcs for it to happen, that's all I said, but you took your way to be retarded about a simple statement.

>>153313623
I mean for having to swallow all those needles. Maybe he can get away with it since he didn't pinky swear most of his promises with Emilia.
>'It's fine Emilia-tan, I didn't break any promises, I had my fingers crossed the whole time, see!

>>153313739
>You did not
I did, that is everything you have to say regarding the post chain. You are literally retarded.

>there is a lot of other arcs for it to happen,
>>153312159
Which ones? Magical future arcs that exist in your headcanon?

>>153313704
Because you're using his rage as reason that he gived up on saving everyone because he didn't wanted to see Rem killed, which doesn't even makes sense even taking the twister scene as consideration, since he felt the same way when he tried that on Emilia.
Also, not only doesn't make sense in that, since Rem was safe if she stayed in the capital, there was no reason for him to worry about her.

>>153313739
> I said even if nothing happened between them in the time skip between Arc 4 and Arc 5 (and even this is dubious), there is a lot of other arcs for it to happen, that's all I said
You didn't even say that. Let me remind you

>And what ? where on arc 6, there is like 5 arcs to go with this about.
THIS is all you said. I know, it seems easy to confuse this one line, ESL garbage that says nothing coherent as some kind of nuanced and deep argument, but I assure you it isn't. If you had a better one in your head, you need to actually type it out or nobody can read it.

>>153313842
>hurr durr I don't care about what you said you're retarded.

And this is how it ends one more discussion with a retarded Remfag.

>>153302934
PFFFT

"I love Emilia"
Moments after she said she'd hate him and not love him if he stopped being the hero of her story?
He might as well have said "I'll be the hero you love, the one you say that I am. Because I love you"

At no point in his heroic doings and reasonings for helping Emilia does it ever remotely look as if he gives a shit about her on a fundamental level.
He's only doing it because he's playing out the hero fantasy that she loves and it's the only thing he can do in the face of this horrible reality he has to face.

It's an honestly fucked up but slightly beautiful in how broken and sweet it is.

>>153310517
>[Emilia: Yeah. I think that’s right. Subaru will devote himself to that girl for a while, and he might stop caring about me as well.]
>[Subaru: No. Under no circumstances would that…..]
>happen. It shouldn’t happen.
>He swears that his feelings towards Emilia would not waver from now on either.
>It’s just that his feelings for Emilia were a different part of the entirety of his feelings. Him having strong feelings towards Rem is a fact, and just like Emilia said, if she were to wake up, there was no doubt that he’d become devoted to her.
>However, she says “it’s fine” to Subaru. Then

Let's hope so anon.

>>153313739
Come down from your high horse. You're the retard here. Emilia and Subaru not having any romantic relationship progress in over a year shows that they don't have interest in it. You can't say " but there are more arcs to come guys!! Give them another chance!" It's like saying that nobody should hate Roswaal since he still can redeem himself in future arcs. It's just dumb.

>>153313409
>>I don't like these kinds of arguments
>>now read my opinion about X
>Kind of a dick you're.
I'll admit to being a dick here. I generally don't like the flow of arguments about who Subaru loves more, though I suppose interesting things I've overlooked are sometimes brought up.
>How about Rem is likable because she has actual visible development, is relatable and has an loveable personality?
Yes, that's all part of it. I could add a bunch more to that list if you'd like, but my posts already stray towards the longer side. I'm not even saying her appeal is all due to her interactions with Subaru, but he's the MC after all. Most character interactions in the series are with him and someone else. We rarely see two entirely separate characters interact with one another at great length.

So, much of what people like about her is also going to tie into what they like about her interactions with Subaru.

>>153313935
Oh, you're the sperg Remfag who always stays mad when you can't comprehend any logic from a post and can't even understand the same thing as being the same.
Go sperg on reddit and fuck off.

>>153313857
>since Rem was safe if she stayed in the capital, there was no reason for him to worry about her.
>Gets a psychic ping from her sister
>Goes off to help
>Will straight up knock Subaru's ass out and leave on her own
Yeah, I'm sure she'll stay in the Captial and is totally fine, just like she stayed at the inn and was totally fine, or stayed in the capital with the mindbroken Subaru and was totally fine. That is totally a thing she will do, just sit around with her thumbs up her ass and be totally fine, yep.

>Because you're using his rage as reason that he gived up on saving everyone because he didn't wanted to see Rem killed
No, his rage is rage. Rage means he still wants to take action. Its after he is proven utterly impotent despite all his sound and fury that he gives up. And a big part of that is Rem continuing to die in awful ways that he cannot stop because she will charge on without him.

>>153313948
>>153314073
>Quoted your entire post, proving you wrong
>No counter arguments
>No apologizing for being a retard or 'Oh, what I meant to say was...'
>All that's left is petty name calling and 'Ha ha, I clearly lost but I'm going to say I had a point and act like I won'

Go catch a cold.

>>153314020
I don't get this

Subaru is just basically affirming himself that he is going to love Emilia even after Rem comes around

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>>153314174
You have to be joking

>>153314174
He doesn't complete his sentence when he's trying to say it. Read into that what you will.

>>153314174
It factors into his Greed and his Pride. In a sense he can't give up on Emilia at this point because that's also somewhat a betrayal of Rem's ideals for him, although that's kind of twisted reasoning.

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>>153302934
haha that's a silly image you got there haha
you should delete it though haha

>>153314174
Cope

>>153314233
Haha, it is. That's not the MC I fell in love with!
>>153314174
brackets and quotations regard actual talk, everything else is the narrator.

>>153314084
>Yeah, I'm sure she'll stay in the Captial and is totally fine, just like she stayed at the inn and was totally fine, or stayed in the capital with the mindbroken Subaru and was totally fine. That is totally a thing she will do, just sit around with her thumbs up her ass and be totally fine, yep.


And is something he can do about, he can even ask to Crusch to keep her with force, he didn't tried anything on stopping Rem coming with him, it's much more easy than fighting cultists and a whale,

>No, his rage is rage. Rage means he still wants to take action. Its after he is proven utterly impotent despite all his sound and fury that he gives up. And a big part of that is Rem continuing to die in awful ways that he cannot stop because she will charge on without him.


Like I said, he does nothing for that, most of time he is trying a way to get in the mansion fast, or trying to call for help, but those are all measures to save Emilia in the mansion, not Rem.

>>153314029
This applies to every character though. We learn about the character through Subaru and how often do you see two characters interact without Subaru being one of them? Emilia for example interacts only with Puck and Subaru and Rem with Ram and Subaru. So saying that 'they like her because of the interaction with the mc' is not just a Rem thing.

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You guys get really carried away on this "SUBARU LOVES X MORE" talk, no matter how many times it happens. I swear i saw this conversation topic a load of fucking times already to the point i can think about what the argument points will be.

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>>153313998
>He's only doing it because he's playing out the hero fantasy that she loves and it's the only thing he can do in the face of this horrible reality he has to face.
Yeah, he actually admits that in the last episode.

>>153314159
>>Quoted your entire post, proving you wrong

laughable at best

>there is a lot of other arcs for it to happen, that's all I said

>And what ? where on arc 6, there is like 5 arcs to go with this about.

let's use math here
6+5=11 arcs
which is the amount of arcs that Tappei confirmed
which 5 is the amount of arcs to reach 11

do you understand now ? I was talking about future arcs in the two posts, you spergued on it as always because you couldn't comprehend it and called me retarded while claiming the two statements are different when they are the same fucking thing

now go sperg on reddit.
which

>>153314410
I just talked about Subaru and Emilia's love, and people jumped on it.

>>153314477
See
>>153314025

>>153314590
you talked about how "deep" the love is and how he will always love her while ignoring everything that happened until this point. Of course people will argue that. It's a discussion thread

>>153314590
Well yeah, because its different who what is actually happening. What you state isn't what is exactly true.

>>153314599
That doesn't make sense at all, Subaru and Emilia acting romantically togheter is much more possible than that, if you are talking about probabilities even Rem may not even wake up but people here take it for granted.
It's just hypocrite at best, and there is nothing wrong in talking about the future like everyone does.

>>153314410

Ship wars is the epitome of discussion naturally

>>153314752
What I said is there on the chapter, if it rubs you in the wrong way, then complain it to Tappei.

>>153314392
Yes. It absolutely does apply to every character. I'm not saying people like Rem just because of her interactions with Subaru. I'm saying people really like her interactions with Subaru, meaning that there's clearly something about it that works despite Rem being gone for so long.

Since interactions with the MC are a major part of any character, Rem wouldn't be able to hold best girl status if people preferred the dynamic some other character had with him over hers.

>>153314845
"deep love" and "will always love her" was in the chapter?

>>153314798
Yes, but there is at least evidence to back up predictions, rather than blindly predicting. Which is what you are doing, which is being frowned upon.

>>153315023
Wasn't his entire argument that he will love her no matter what? That he tolerates her bullshit because he loves her?

>>153315095
No? His argument was to show she wasn't the ideal girl that she though Subaru views her as and now and will no longer put her on a pedestal. It also was to tell his feelings that he does actually care for Emilia.

>>153315023
>These love confessions, thrown around so much
>they practically look cheap, were all entirely
>Subaru's truest sentiments, spoken from the >whole of him, seeped through to every portion >of his soul in their legitimacy.

>and no matter how fed up you are with yourself, I'll never dislike you.”

>Subaru: “No matter what you remember, >nothing'll change. I love you. I'll always be >loving you.”

deep is my interpretation but is justified by all his declarations, so yes.

>>153315175
Yeah, he will always love her, even if she's not an ideal girl. Right?

>>153315222
Let's see if he can finally keep a promise.

>>153315038
But there is evidence on that, and there is many ways that could happen.

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>>153315260
I'm not falling for that trap motherfucker

We both know that's simply not a true statement

>>153315309
Oh? What evidence and predictions do you have then?

>>153315352
I'm seriously not baiting. I'm genuinely not sure how saying Subaru will always love Emilia is a bad thing.
Like, even if she becomes shit, he will not stop loving her and will help her overcome her shittyness. Playing off the whole "Subaru is Emilia's Rem".
Seriously, I'm not trolling, I'm not sure what you mean.

>>153315222
So, this few lines were enough for you to believe his words? Even if his actions contradict what he's saying? 'I'll love you no matter what' - but I also love this other girl - but with her my actions make sense when I say that I love her'

Guess my interpretation of deep is just different than yours.

>>153315481
>Playing off the whole "Subaru is Emilia's Rem".
While I think a comparison can be made there, I kind of feel Subaru is more trying to be Emilia's Rem than he is a more direct comparison. I don't feel like disagreeing with anything else, but I'd say his feelings for Emilia are kind of different from Rem's feelings for him.

The degree of difference is debatable.

>>153315627
Yeah, it's definitely a conscious effort. Especially since he remarked at the end that Rem's speech was probably better.

>>153315541
Of course it is, for me there is no contradiction, but I will not be arguing this whole thing, I can respect different interpretations as long people realize that much of this is subjective.

>>153315481
>I'm genuinely not sure how saying Subaru will always love Emilia is a bad thing.

Because it going to be one of the main things that will fuck Subaru up. What he says doesn't back up what he does. Which is unhealthy, which is bad. He says he will love her no matter what yet he is already slipping as of arc 6. So him viewing her as a romantic love interest doesn't spell any good as it causes an unhealthy relationship between the two. Not to mention what were to happen if Emilia found out what Subaru's true motive was for going there was.

>>153315812
Oh, you mean that. I heard about it, but I always ignore/forget that since I won't read arc 6 until 5 is translated.

>>153300999
Just finished and I'm impressed. That was a really good chapter. Might be the emotional climax of the arc. Until Betty

I'm not up to date on the LNs since I'm a filthy secondary so I don't understand what's going on in this thread
Could I get a quick rundown of what happens

>>153318029
>Roswaal is a dick
>Subaru is using Emilia to save Sanctuary
>Subaru loves both Rem and Emilia (Debatable if he loves Rem more than Emilia)
>Subaru is trying to save Sanctuary
>Ram has Stockholm/Battered Wife Syndrome
>Otto and Subaru are based as fuck
>Rem is in coma who is being taken care of and visited everyday by Ram and her boyfriend >Subaru straight up assaults people who shittalks Rem and his love for her
>Subaru nearly went full villain twice even more than that depending on who you talk to
>Witches and Bitches many cakes many, many grandmother and many little girls
>Subaru is trying to adopt Beatrice and become her father-figure
>Ram is assumed, not a virgin
>Gaaf is a pussy and rejected Ram's offer to wife her
>Gaaf is also, a massive dick
>Assrabbits
>Elsa is back

And a bunch of stuff I probably missed.

>>153318180
I also forgot Roswaal puts the words forced in "forced contract"

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Maids are always best girls

Is Emilia supposed to fit the archetype of the childhood crush you idealized but didn't really love in the end?

>>153315222
Nothing about that is 'deep'

Its based on next to nothing, it can be broken easily, it doesn't guide any of his actions, and its really shallow by his own self admission. Even when Emilia was asking for a better justification he basically says 'you're just going to have to accept this as is, no I'm still not going to give you any reasons to trust me'

The best he had was shorting out the conversation by moving in for a kiss, which is a gesture she barely understands but seems to have more or less gotten him what he wanted.

>>153300179
bestgirl

>>153318265
Best for rape.

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>>153318893

>>153308388
Thanks anon, I was hoping this was a Rem IF birthday chapter, but Arc 2.5 antics are cute too.

>>153300179
>Just finished this. Season 2 when?
When you fuck off to reddit

Where was that mega link with all the chapters of arc 4?

I've been behind that I didn't notice that I forgot to bookmark it.

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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.

>>153320247

http://pastebin.com/gWi7LURJ

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>>153320341
thank

Have an Emilia.

>>153320455

Well thank you, that's indeed a pretty Emilia

>>153314174
He has decided to love Emilia but can't help to love Rem and he feels guilty about it.
Now the coping, the excuse, is that he loves them equally, and at that point if he loved Rem more he would not admit it because it would be an explicit betrayal of his initial declaration he still wants to enforce.

That said it's not unprecedented that ther is a discrepancy between what he says and what he actually feels deep down sometimes he doesn't even realize it until something forces him to

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>Ferri will pump his semen inside this green-haired goddess

Everything is right in the Universe.

>>153320828
>it's Fourier's face that Crusch-sama sees when she closes her eyes

>>153318518
This would definitely fit the subtext of Re:Zero, but it's still not a guarantee

>>153320930

I'm conflicted

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>>153308388
>[Emilia: Eh? I got jealous just from watching, and your tail was open too…….was it not okay?]
>That transformation definitely――she felt like it was a result of the worry in Rem’s heart disappearing in one way or another. Emilia felt jealous of that.
>Rem was completely on Puck’s side during this small interaction. People could not resist the fur’s charm after all. That trivial jealousy was put aside
Emiliaaa

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JANUARY

Reinhardt's birthday is January 1st
Ferri's birthday is January 16
Echidna's birthday is January 24

FEBRUARY

Rem/Ram birthday is February 2nd
Petra's birthday is February 14
Rom's birthday is February 20

MARCH

Anastasia's birthday is March 10
Otto's birthday is March 24th

APRIL

Subaru's birthday is April 1st
Crusch-sama's birthday is April 4th
Elsa's birthday is April 29, a pun on death and meat

MAY

Wilhelm's birthday is May 7
My birthday is May 17 :3

JUNE

Carmilla's birthday is June 19

JULY

Julius' birthday is July 7th
Minerva's birthday is July 20

AUGUST

Felt's birthday is August 8th
Sekhmet's birthday is August 13

SEPTEMBER

Priscilla's birthday is September 7
Roswaal's birthday is September 16
Emilia's birthday is September 23rd

OCTOBER

Garfiel's birthday is October 12

NOVEMBER

Kadomon's birthday is November 6

DECEMBER

-

>>153313053
Based oneesama better not be defiled by some filthy beta

>>153321313
Otto is pure alpha

>>153321266
>Petra's birthday is on Valentine's day.

What does it mean

>>153321095
Okay then
>Ferris doesn't want to tell Crusch-sama it's actually Fourier's name that she screams when she cums

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>>153321422

Well I wouldn't be able to blame her

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>>153320320

>>153321842

What do you mean, you little Pokemon like creature?

>>153311335
However Tappei knew where he was going with Rem, Subaru falling for her and the ensuing drama is stuff he planned since before publishing the first chapter

>>153322009
A recent interview/Q&A suggests exactly the opposite actually. Rem and Ram were originally going to be side characters and a large part of arc 2/3 was not in the original outline.

>>153322088
What I meant is that it's part of the final outline that still was concluded before he started publishing, the events as of now are part of his final draft rather than being the result of him giving in to the Remfags

For comparison Sasuke wasn't part of Naruto's original outline but by the final version it would be absurd to say that he wasn't planned to be a major player since chapter one

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>>153300179
>Just finished this. Season 2 when?
Hopefully never.

We don't need more generic shit for teenagers with no taste.

>>153321872
“I am head over heels for you. Everything good about you shines brilliantly for me. And of course I know not everything about you is good. You're... you're not and angel, not a goddess, you're an ordinary girl. Pain and suffering makes you want to cry, you want to avoid and bypass things you don't like, and you have a desire to choose only the easy and fun options so long as they're available.”

That's the difference between real feelings and your vain fantasy. Surrender your hopes, there is nothing but suffering for your beloved and her companion.

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New collaboration with some mobile game when? Or Re:Zero's own mobile game?

I didn't get this Ultra Rare 6 Star Ferri featuring Crusch-sama doll and I'm pissed.

>>153322269

I still don't understand what you mean, Digimon.

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Ferri and Crusch-sama deserve all the happiness in the Universe.

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They don't even have to make kids or get married (they will), just them being together the rest of their lives is enough.

Thankfully Tappei has proved himself to be /my guy/ so I don't have to worry.

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Thank you satan

What is he saying? https://twitter.com/nezumiironyanko/status/830407012945059840

>>153323388
Talking positively about how it feels when fans write fanwork centering around characters that the author can't focus on yet due to story-wise circumstances

>>153323476
What characters is he referring to? Al and Priscilla?

>>153323541

In general.

Was it confirmed for 2018?

>>153324186
Nothing has been confirmed, the expectation is that if they do it it won't be before 2018 as there aren't enough LNs to adapt yet

>>153300179
The blue haired girl loses her conciusnes and nobody rememvers who she is except for theMC. This isall duo to her and cruch(green hair) meeting greed and glutony which are fckng op. MC makes like hundred suesides to save blueuair but no use

>>153300999
So why can't he tell her why he broke this promise again?

>>153325150
Hes to obsesed with saving bluehair..and nobody can help him as no one rememvers that bluehair even exists. And the MC does like hundreed suecides

>>153301800
What does this mean? He walked her home gently?

VERY INPORTANT Q do u think the dragon that guards satela is actualy The King? There was something mantiones about it in anine wasnt it?

>>153325150
He was taking a shit
in all seriousness you'll find out in a few chapters

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>>153324985
>>153325185
>>153325351

>>153325352
What if Subaru really had needed to take a shit
Is it less worse to shit on the floor, or to have Emilia know you're a liar

>>153325413
Wtf

>>153325509
Truly the greatest moral dilemma in Rezero thus far.

>>153318667
>Its based on next to nothing, it can be broken easily, it doesn't guide any of his actions, and its really shallow by his own self admission. Even when Emilia was asking for a better justification he basically says 'you're just going to have to accept this as is, no I'm still not going to give you any reasons to trust me'

That's not what it means, he realizes that what he did was shitty by broking promises, he realizes that his actions back there didn't reflected his love, but that is not enough for him, because his feelings is sincere, even the narration itself says that

>Subaru's truest sentiments, spoken from the whole of him, seeped through to every portion of his soul in their legitimacy.

And for him, that's what matters, that's the point of the whole kiss, he wanted to show her that no matter what he did, he still love everything about her.

and that's my interpretation, if you see it differently, then you have to deal with it as simple as that.

>>153325351
That makes no fucking sense. Also the dragon is not watching over Satella i think. He just helped place the seal.

>>153325413
>>153325535
What was originaly planned to be in the last ep, but tgey decided not to make such a huge clifhanger. MC just arrived at the new cheeckpoint but rem and cruch meet glutony and greed who took rem conciousnes and memories and only the memories from cruch. Mc yries everything but theres nothing he cando. Hdkills himself like 100times but hes alredy at a cheeckpoint past rem and cruch meeting 2 authorities
It was reveled that satela is sealrd off at the edge of the world and 2 op wizards are guarding her, one is also a dragon. W
Was there not sonewhere mantioned that the king is a dragon?

>>153326055

I'm pretty sure he only killed himself one time when he found out what happened to Rem and Crusch. Why would he do it more than once when the checkpoint is past that point?

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>>153326055
I'm hoping you're just false flagging hard by acting like you can't even use basic english properly.

>>153325838
Subaru doesn't love Emilia. She is his protagonist fantasy and he uses her for his selfish desires while ignoring her feelings.

>>153326178
Its not 100 and its not 1. He was desperate and had to try "everything". He did it more than once..

>>153325838
To be fair from the style the narrator is never omniscent and rather while external adopts the point of view of the characters involved

So "truest sentiments" is what Subaru thinks rather than an absolute. But will he follow through that?

I wonder if Remon can withstand the urge and translate something non Rem related such as the Reinhard vs Nine God General side story that might be extremely important since the empire of Volakia seems to play role very soon.

>>153327854
It depends on who asks him to do so

>>153327182
I don't have any reason to believe otherwise, as on arc 6 he still loves her and even still thinks that he will not stop loving her.

>>153328002
I'm actually one of the people who could ask him.
>>153327854
Is that from the Liliana story? If so, that's still somewhere on his priority list.

Thinking about it, also Rem's confession had underlying pragmatic reasons as she needed to do so in order to save her sister

>>153329379
Actually, she didn't know jack shit about that when she made her confession. Subaru only explained the details afterward.

All she would have known was that Subaru's scent had sharply increased, and he seemed to become extremely depressed about something.

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>Q: Between Ferris and Crusch-sama, which of them gives the other lap pillows?
>A: Either of them can give the other a lap pillow. But basically, it’s Ferris that does it.

>Q: At the time of the Arc 3 interlude, did he reattach Crusch-san’s left arm?
>A: Ferris put his heart and soul into reattaching her arm. There’s not even a scar left.

>Q: What's the degree of friendship in each of the King candidates camps?
>A: Crusch and Ferris are like perfect married couple

/MY GUY/

You can keep fighting over Subaru + Rem + Emilia love triangle, I ship Ferri and Crusch-sama.

>>153329859

It's not like you can't support more than one relationship

>>153328226
I don't think it was told through Liliana but was a side story that actively followed Reinhard, Felix and Julius on their journey to meet Vincent Volakia.

The first Nine God General also forced Reinhard to draw his Dragon Sword Reid, so it certainly must be important in some way

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I used to think that only idiots kept shipping, fighting over meaningless things and often unable to focus on the actual story.

>>153330032

Damn that sounds interesting, please the one who has the request permission, request this.

>>153330270
I mean I'm sure there is more to it ( possibly even Julius cutting down the people that tried a coupe ) but all I could find about it was on the wiki.

It's apparently a little story featured in some magazine but judging from the contents it could be majorly important in the upcoming politic struggle we might witness

>>153329938

Well yeah, but I think actually shipping and supporting a relationship are two different things.

>>153325838
>and that's my interpretation, if you see it differently, then you have to deal with it as simple as that.
And you are wrong, narratively. The same narration you say is word of god says their relationship sucks ass and you're glorifying it like its deep and profound. The point hammered over and over is that it isn't deep and profound. Subaru is making small steps to fix that, but even in arc 6 its basically nothing. Half the reason Ram is as suspicious as she is with Subaru's actions is the only concrete thing she has to judge him on is how he treats Emilia, which is like garbage.

>>153330791
>Subaru is making small steps to fix that, but even in arc 6 its basically nothing.
I wonder why is so inmore than a year when he stated he wants to make it real

>>153330791
>Half the reason Ram is as suspicious as she is with Subaru's actions is the only concrete thing she has to judge him on is how he treats Emilia, which is like garbage.

Okay this actually makes sense why Ram's been a lot harsher and stricter on Subaru whenever it comes to Rem. And by the way, does Emilia really not realize how bad Subaru's been treating her? I mean seeing how their relationship couldn't develop after one year and how Subaru hesitated to reassure Emilia that he still loves her should be more than enough to question the legitimacy of Subaru's love for her. I wonder why Emilia simply lets everything slide and believes she'll make Subaru fall for her even when she has yet to be able to do it for over one year.

Mitrospeed is lurking

>>153332294
One plausible reason is that Emilia simply doesn't know better as mentally she's barely over 12 if not worse

>>153332505
I think what most people also neglect is that she's still on her way of recollection her memories which could play a big part in her mental age

>>153333349
That makes me think.
Will there be a manga for the 4th arc and who will tackle it?

Personally I prefer the mangaka that did the second arc visually and content-wise

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OTP

>>153330791
>The same narration you say is word of god says their relationship sucks ass

There is nothing saying that, stop taking things out of your ass

>he point hammered over and over is that it isn't deep and profound. Subaru is making small steps to fix that, but even in arc 6 its basically nothing.

I already said why it is and you countered nothing on that, you're basically just giving another interpretation and expect other people accepts it as absolute truth, get off your high horse.

>Half the reason Ram is as suspicious as she is with Subaru's actions is the only concrete thing she has to judge him on is how he treats Emilia, which is like garbage.

Ram thinks a lot of bad things about him which is the usual thing, she is not a parameter for anything related on what he truly feels.

>>153333441

I'm going to take a wild guess and say it could begin in summer.

>>153333657
>Ram thinks a lot of bad things about him which is the usual thing, she is not a parameter for anything related on what he truly feels.

Subaru lies to Emilia often which is the usual thing, his word are not a parameter for anything related on what he truly feels

>>153333829
>Subaru lies to Emilia often which is the usual thing, his word are not a parameter for anything related on what he truly feels

which is not the point of chapter, he understand truly well that what he did didn't reflected that and still decided to demonstrate his love in other ways, since Emilia wasn't believing in him, he kissed her as demonstration of love and confirmation on what he said, in other words, he doesn't think that his actions devaluates his feeling.

if you don't agree with that then move on, don't expect people accept everything you say as definite truth.

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>>153333657
>>153333829
Subaru's thoughts aren't a great point of reference in general

>>153333657
>There is nothing saying that, stop taking things out of your ass

>It seemed like no progress was made up until now for these two in regards to their understanding of the type of love formed in a relationship between a man and woman. Although, even if there was progress, Subaru also wouldn’t be mentally prepared. It would take 2―at least 3 years――no, if possible, even more than that, to be prepared.

Great relationship they have.

>>153333808
If I remember correctly the second arc manga just finished and the 3rd one is on its way.

I'd love for them to start as soon as possible because a manga for the 4th arc surely would be extremely long and I don't want it to lag behind again

>>153334014
The text says nothing that their relationship is bad, It just says that Subaru isn't prepared for the relationship so things moved slowly, if you want think that as bad, do it, but don't distort the text as if it's your own opnion.

>>153334186
Oops, it was meant to >>153334034

>>153334153

Arc 2 manga finished in December and Arc 3 manga still has a year or two left.

>>153334186
Do you even think before you write something?

>>153334270
do you ? If you have no arguments then you could just stop it.

>>153334320
I quote from the story how are these no arguments? All YOU do is "this is your opinion and not fact" even though it's stated in the narrative you idiot.

>>153334560
The narrative gives no judgement on their relationship, the conclusion that the relationship is bad is totally yours, go sperg elsewhere.