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Which couple did it better?

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Which couple did it better?
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>>153291704
The hottest match goes to the fag and the gas.
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>>153291704
Yuri on Ice is just a fujobait and not a real yaoi, you moron.
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>>153291704
Neither
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Silly /a/, Yuri and Victor are just reincarnated Shinji and Kowaru.
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>>153291704
kawoshin because they have canon feelings for each other unlike fujobait on ice
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>>153291704
Yuri and Victor were apparently confirmed not homo, so I'm going with the canon kawoshin
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>>153296190
>Yuri and Victor were apparently confirmed not homo
No, they weren't.

Also Kaworu is a garbage character, unless we are talking about Karl.
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>>153296934
>No, they weren't.
Yes they were, I just saw the thread.

Karl is generic and Harada-tier, Kaworu was a kick ass final boss and made Shinji make cute expressions. I have no complaints about the latter.
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>>153297109
>Yes they were, I just saw the thread.
Which one? In which they call them soul mates or which the Itsuka calls it love?

Stop being jelly because your shitty homopaing get killed everytime and shitty screentime.
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>>153297109
Well then you suck at reading comprehension
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>>153297170
The one where Kubo says the "wedding rings" were just a good luck charm between clubmates.

Say what you want about Kawoshin, at least Anno had the balls to make them canon.
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>>153297109
>>153296190
It begins.
Time to go shit up other threads and stay out of yoi threads until the announcement.
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>>153297109
>they're not married, so they aren't gay for each other despite the kissing and open expression of love and attraction
You are retarded
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>>153296934
>>Yuri and Victor were apparently confirmed not homo
>>153297109
I love how a single translated interview about one thing in the show is enough to make it call non home while describing everything else.

By your logic Kaworu was non-homo because Shinji fapped to Asuka.
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>>153297290
You mean the kissing that Kubo said could be interpreted as a hug?
The love and attraction which was has remained intentionally ambiguous all the way to the finale?

Come on, I was just as let down as you that Yuri on Ice ended up being fujobait, but you need to get over it.
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>>153297297
By my logic Anno confirmed the homo and Kubo rejected it.

Yuuri had a crush on Yuuko by the way so you can't call him homo either.
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>>153297350
>Come on, I was just as let down as you that Yuri on Ice ended up being fujobait, but you need to get over it.
It's ok anon, one day Anno will not kill Kaworu and maybe the pairing will go somewhere.
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>>153297402
>By my logic Anno confirmed the homo and Kubo rejected it.
>"Kubo: It turned out Victor and Yuri can't live without each other and can't think about seperation and had to revise their initial plans"
>Otsuka: They completed each other and what's more, they found a new path to follow ahead of them.
>Otsuka: Yuuri said he had no name to describe this feeling and I think it captures the nature of their relationship really well. Calling it love is a wonderful way of putting it, but I think they already went above even that. It is a relationship where they push each other in the best direction.
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>>153297402
>Yuuri had a crush on Yuuko

I will have to correct you there, Yuuri never had a crush on Yuuko. It was a red herring, Yuuri already knew she was married and had the kids before she travelled to detroit. His feelings were said to be of admiration for someone he looked up to.
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>>153297426
I don't really care what Anno does with him.

The truth is the homo there is canon, the homo in Yuri on Ice has been left in fujobait mode.
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>>153297491
>The truth is the homo there is canon, the homo in Yuri on Ice has been left in fujobait mode.
If anything Eva is shitty fujobait that never goes nowhere with a flat character while YoI is a 12 episodes romances that you can't avoid if you watch the anime.
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>>153297468
>Yuuri never had a crush on Yuuko

Yuri on Ice fujos, everybody.

He was going to confess to her in that first episode scene.
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>>153297350
>You mean the kissing that Kubo said could be interpreted as a hug?
That's now what she said.
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>>153297550
Eva can't be fujobait when the homo was confirmed, YoI can because it never was and based on the seiyuu and Kubo's words it's being denied.

And don't act like Victor isn't flat as fuck too. We know less about him than we do about Kaworu.
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>>153297555
Sorry anon, but you fell for a hetbait
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>>153297555
>He was going to confess to her in that first episode scene.
You got baited. He was never going to confess to the woman married to his best friend.
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>>153297555
Trips confirm

He can be bisexual though.
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>>153297638
>>153297649
You're delusional if you think he wasn't going to confess to Yuuko in that scene. He had a huge crush on her since childhood.

If you weren't so insecure about the homo you could admit that easily.
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>>153297617
>Eva can't be fujobait when the homo was confirmed, YoI can because it never was and based on the seiyuu and Kubo's words it's being denied.

It isn't. You are just being pedantic because you are butthurt your shitty homopairing gets little screentime and gets killed every time for cheap fujobuck.

Post the exact word in which he denies it.
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Is someone going to make a real thread? I want to know the ep 9 commentary
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>>153297654
He can be and he obviously is, all these fags are so insecure they even see Yuuko has a threat.

Not even they believe Yuuri and Victor is canon, I remember the outrage over the last episode for keeping things ambiguous. You niggers can't fool me, I was there.
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>>153297676
I know it's hard to accept falling for a bait, but she is married and have three kids, MC was never going to confess to her
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>>153297676
>If you weren't so insecure about the homo you could admit that easily.
I don't care about Yuuko at all, it's not like they could even end up together. She's married, Yuri barely pays her attention.

You just got baited.
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>>153297555

Anon I was being serious

That confession was a red herring and was never brought back. Even Yuuri's monolgue was almost all about Victor and he went to the ice castle to skate the routine he has been practicing with the purpose of finding his love for skating again concidentially at the same time Victor would skate it and Yuuko just happened to be there, it was never about her. They both fucking fangirlied over Viktor as kids which makes sense he would show her. Takeshi or other Yuuko's family could have been there instead.
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>>153297727
>Calls other butthurt
>3 months later still tries to no homo YoI based on a single line just translated while ignoring stuff like the soulmate interview, true love one and Otsuka words.
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>>153297713
I think we legitimately scared off that translator anon, so better wait for Tora
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>>153297750
>>153297761
If we wasn't going to confess to her, then what was he going to say while blushing to her in that scene?

He clearly had a crush on her for years.
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>>153297713
It'll attract shitposters now, dunno if it's good idea
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>>153297837
>If we wasn't going to confess to her, then what was he going to say while blushing to her in that scene?

If he was in love with her, while she's basically irrelevant to all his development ?
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>>153291704
Kawoshin is irreplaceable for me.
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>>153297617
>And don't act like Victor isn't flat as fuck too. We know less about him than we do about Kaworu.
Kaworu isn't even a character, he's a plot device.
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>tfw I'm a Kaworufag and love Baldfat
Please stop fighting everyone, still looking forward to the event later today.
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>>153297837

Yuri in episode 2 is wondering why he feels so happy and in episode 5 he said he's feeling and noticing love for the first time.

If Yuuko was his crush. He wouldn't be doubting these things.

Whatever he was gonna say was so unimportant it was never even in a flashback and didn't serve a purpose for Yuri's character growth.
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>>153297699
at least kawoshin is an actual homopairing unlike your good luck charm platonic comrades in arms
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>>153297900
This.

Yuri on Ice may be forgotten in a few years. Eva will live on forever.
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>>153297975
It's just one retarded kaworufag trolling and people fall for it
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>>153297468
I'm convinced that he had a crush on Yuuko but... uhm... how to put it... its A CRUSH we're talking about. If a crush doesn't turn into love then it will eventually fade out and die. That's what happened to Yuuri. He still held onto those feelings inside him to avoid reality, failure. He clung to the sweet memories of his past because they made him feel better.
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>>153298028
>>153297935
>>153298063
It's someone falseflagging trying to get Kawoshinfags and BaldFatfags to fight.
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>>153298028
Did Anime Kaworu even kiss Shinji? What a shitty character he was.

Keep getting baited by Anno.
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>>153298028
>platonic comrades in arms
Actual confirmed soulmates though.
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>>153298093
Jesus, why are yaoi fans fighting each other?.
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>>153298156
So were Kaworu and Shinji. It's not anything special.
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>>153298093
Yeah seriously why would Yoifags dislike Kawoshin, they are like Baldfat precursors
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>>153298043
I would like to disagree but I'm afraid you're right.
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I live Kawoshin and Baldfat
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>>153298093
This thread was made to bait/troll, there isn't really any other point to any of this. Ignore.
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>>153298028
Man, I rememer when people still deny Kaworu and Shinji.

It's not gay because Kaworu is an angeeeeeel.
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>>153298180
Arguing over homo powerlevels. Fucking dumb ass shit.
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So Victuuri got debunked today?
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>>153298258
>Victuuri
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>>153298258
>Victuuri
nah, people are just sperging.
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>>153298311
What happened though?
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>>153298258
>So Victuuri got debunked today?
Kubo just said the rings weren't true marriage rings from Yuri's pov, autismstics ignored every confirmation until now to shitpost.
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>>153298337
>rings weren't true marriage rings from Yuri's pov
What about Victor's?
Also, sauce?
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>>153298353
So basically Yuuri isn't gay but Victor is?
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>>153297350
>You mean the kissing that Kubo said could be interpreted as a hug?
Are you from 3 months ago?
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>>153298401
That's not what it meant. It's true love between them and they're inseperable. He's just autistic, which we already knew.
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>>153298043
Kawoshin is eternal.
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>>153298401
>So basically Yuuri isn't gay but Victor is?
No, Yuri is just autistic and unreliable narrator.
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>>153298353
Anon corrected from talking to nip friend that it didn't completely debunk that possibility, sentence is like "more than just meaning marriage" or something like that
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>>153297935
>hurrr he's a significant element to the plot and Shinji's character! What a plot device! All minor characters are shit!
Blow it out your ass.
Kaworu is more iconic than Victor will ever be.

>>153298111
Onscreen sex, something you'll never get but in your doujins.
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>>153298387
Viktor pov is I will get along with this for now and later he fiancezoned himself
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>>153298043
Adam and eva
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Kubo said that the rings represent good luck to a greater extent than their marriage. She didn't say it wasn't for engagement and the show even called it that + context of the engagement would make no sense in any other context. People are just overreacting
sage
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>>153298387
She didn't mention it since she was talking about one specific scene. What they might have meant in that moment, not what they meant later.
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>>153298528
>Onscreen sex
Look anon, I'm an evafag and a kawoshinfag too, but that was still metaphorical and not explicit in the way of say, Kaji and Misato. By that same logic so did Shinji and Asuka.
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>>153298428
But Yuuri doesn't act like he likes Victor in that way

He only sees him as a coach
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>>153298632
But that's wrong. Yuuri probably has complicated feelings for Victor and how to express them, but it's more than just as a coach. Even if you want to no homo it, it would be more than just that.
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>>153298632
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>>153298632
?
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>>153298615
>I'm an evafag and a kawoshinfag too
Then why do you keep calling it shit?

Metaphorical alien shit like most of what happens in the movie, but still sex. Even stated in the scripts.

Shinji's scenes with Rei and Asuka are to represent being one in Instrumentality. His "sex scene" with Kaworu was the only one not in Instrumentality. It was explicitly Shinji feeling penetration.

I don't think a sex scene, implied or explicit will happen in Yuri on ice.
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>>153298632
Looks like you missed the rest of the show. He's obsessed with Victor, even built part of his life around him. It's more that he can't believe his lifelong idol has interest in him with his shit self esteem.
He was on board with seducing him, blushes around him, wants to bind himself to him, etc. There's plenty of tells.
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>>153298705
But then why did he say let's end this
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The worst things is that we all know they are fags, but we'll have to endure months of shitposting again because people ignore every other interview and thing that happened in the show.
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>>153298111
Baldfat didn't kiss either. At least Kaworu and Shinji both said they loved the other.
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>>153297555
That's delusional Tumbltier fujos for you. Even rational fujos agree he was going to confess, some morons on the other hand are so deep in their own shit they are convinced he didn't had a crush on her for years.
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>>153298728
>I don't think a sex scene, implied or explicit will happen in Yuri on ice.
Neither did in Eva.

If anything YoI is far more explicit than anything that happened in Eva
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>>153298760
Because he felt he was holding him back because he fucked up his SP and was being anxious because Victor wasn't paying enough attention to him. Did you watch the show or not
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>>153298728
>Then why do you keep calling it shit?
That was my first comment in this thread.

You're right he did feel it and there was sexual imagery, but it wasn't explicitly called "sex" in the script. And Lilith was there along with Adam, so it was like an alien threeway if anything.
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>>153298742
Why are you answers seriously to a bait? It's a blatant bait thread, move to /yoi/ containment thread
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>>153298773
>Baldfat didn't kiss either.
They did.

>At least Kaworu and Shinji both said they loved the other.
Yuuri says it plenty of time, the whole narrative is about that actually.
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I like Baldfat, but why can't the staff members be as blunt as Anno and co. are for Kawoshin?

And that was in fucking 1996, they have no excuse for pussying around and being vague.
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>>153298847
Because one is the director wanting to write homo love because of his homo crush on Iku, the other is fujobait anime doing baity things.
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>>153298793
He wasn't going to confess.It was a joke and bait.
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>>153298773
They kissed unless you're being purposefully delusional, which I think you are. Yuuri and Victor said they felt love for the other too, and it's not like Shinji got to tell Kaworu that to his face either. Stop making this into a dickwaving contest.
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>>153298893
>he can't be bi and have a crush on a girl before meeting the love of his life, he must be 100% a gay!
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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>>153298793
>That's delusional Tumbltier fujos for you. Even rational fujos agree he was going to confess, some morons on the other hand are so deep in their own shit they are convinced he didn't had a crush on her for years.

Yeah, if we don't fail at characterization we must be from tumblr. No one gives a shit about Yuko either way, it's not like she's a treat to the pairing.


People deny it because it makes more sense with the successive development, her general irrelevancy and the fact she's a mother of 3 and married to Yuuri's best friend. Yuuri's feeling for her seem more Madonna-like than anything.
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>>153298930
He can have a crush in the past, but he wasn't going to confess to a married woman with 3 kids.
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>>153298954
Source, your ass.
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>>153298847
To be fair that wasn't Anno who said that part, but rather the interviewer.
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Yuuri is bisexual just like Shinji

He has had feelings for girls before but the one that means the most in his heart is the foreign white haired faggot he meets later on in life.
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>>153298978
Source he was going to confess
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>>153298847
>I like Baldfat, but why can't the staff members be as blunt as Anno and co. are for Kawoshin?
Yes?

>Otsuka: They completed each other and what's more, they found a new path to follow ahead of them.
>Otsuka: Yuuri said he had no name to describe this feeling and I think it captures the nature of their relationship really well. Calling it love is a wonderful way of putting it, but I think they already went above even that. It is a relationship where they push each other in the best direction.

Now can Anno write a version of Kaworu that doesn't die? In the shitty Kaworu spin-off (Campus apocalypse) Shinji has a crush on REI.

Anno is master at pussyfooting around the thing.
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>>153299005
Common sense. Unelss you're so fucking deluded you think he was going to say something like "Yuu-chan, I... like you hair"
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Kawoshinfags can't even really prove Shinji's bisexuality
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>>153298705
Staff even says the coach/student thing isn't all there is to their relationship.
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>>153299095
He fapped to Asuka's tits. Gay dudes don't fap to girls.
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>>153299077
>Common sense.
We have a thread calling Yuri and Victor straight and you want to bring common sense.
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>>153299077
Okay. So you have no source then
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>>153299077
Common sense dictates you don't confess to a married woman of 3.
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>>153298043
People have been talking about Evangelion for 20 years, they probably still will be in another 20 years.
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>>153299032
>using spin-offs made by third parties with no input by Khara or its staff
You're getting desperate now.

Anno went to a yaoi magazine in 1996 to talk about how gay Kaworu and Shinji are.
That's not pussyfooting, that's fucking balsy. An Anime director doesn't just go accept an interview with a Yaoi magazine in the 90s.
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>>153299077

If we go by what was wrote in the official material about how he felt about her and what the flashbacks were about he was gonna say he has always admired her and was thankful for introducing and teaching him to skate and about Victor
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>>153299032
>>Otsuka: They completed each other and what's more, they found a new path to follow ahead of them.
>>Otsuka: Yuuri said he had no name to describe this feeling and I think it captures the nature of their relationship really well. Calling it love is a wonderful way of putting it, but I think they already went above even that. It is a relationship where they push each other in the best direction.
Someone should make a post with all these interviews because I'm tired to re-post them.
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>>153299212
Fuck off Luluco, stupid cuck.
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>>153299124
He's straight m8
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>>153299154
Makes more sense that "he wasn't going to confess because I say so".

>>153299186
>what is confessing to get clousure
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>>153299077
Honestly it doesn't even matter what he would have said to begin with because this supposed "attraction" to her doesn't come even up later and the whole scene is generally treated as irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
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>>153299212
That entire flashback was more about Victor than her and and she stopped being relevant after Yurio left.To expect Yuuri to confess to a married woman with kids is just weird.
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>>153299095
Shinji being bisexual doesn't have to be proven, it's just a fact. In the show and the staff's words.
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>>153299277
Exactly, so I've no idea why some delusional fujo feel so threatened by her. He used to have a crush on her, he met Victor, he got over her. End of the story.
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>>153299270
>>what is confessing to get clousure
Something irrelevant apparently, because he does fine without getting closure and she's basically irrelevant?
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How weird is it that Yuuri not saying anything to Yuuko means that he is in love with her but his obsession with Victor and all of their interactions somehow don't mean he's into dudes? Did you not see the romantic pair skating?
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>>153299335
>Exactly, so I've no idea why some delusional fujo feel so threatened by he
No one feels treated by her, are you retarded? She's more relevant to Yurio than Yuri.
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>this thread
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>>153299270
>closure
Stop headcanoning shit.

Yuuri hadn't seen her in 5 years and then when Victor shows up didn't give a shit about her ever again. He didn't need closure for anything.
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Yuuri grinded on Victor for Christ's sake. Victor obviously tried to bang him because of it. How are people this dense?
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>>153299387
>b-but he never liked her!
Sure, not threatened here.
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>>153299373
>Did you not see the romantic pair skating?
And to a song about two men becoming one no less.
It's a shitposting thread though, how could you expect anything less.
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>>153299232
Those quotes are like every bromance story ever.
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>>153299412
Because he fell in love with another person. But if there was no Victor, things would have been different.
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Christ.
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>>153299291

The entire flashback was about how Yuko introduced him to skating, showed him Victor, and Takeshi was there

If he was crushing on her they would have had moments alone in that flashback
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>>153299032
This isn't as blunt as Kaworu being called Shinji's homosexual love interest.
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>>153298793
I'm pretty sure he was going to confess.

YOI fujos are delusional about some scenes like the airport scene. It feels good to be right.
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>>153299124
he's a bislut
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>>153299459
Not really. They were also described as "true love".
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>trashy T&A fanservice show has gay kisses
>YOI doesn't
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>>153299437
I don't know how to explain it to you that no one is going to feel treated by a married woman of 3, but then again, you seem to lack basic understanding of human behavior.
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>>153299437
he thinks she was nice and cute
he thinks victor is sexy enough to get him pregnant and spent half his life chasing him. He left her and his town to chase Victor.

He liked her in a childish way and admired her and appreciated her support at best, but even that is probably not true since Yuuri didn't even realize people supported him until Victor showed up.

>>153299489
She's married you know??? No, things would not have been different.
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>>153299564
Yeah because a person can't have feelings for someone who is already married or has a partner. That shit never happens.
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>>153299527
He looks like a slut whenever he's with Kaworu
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>>153299520
>This isn't as blunt as Kaworu being called Shinji's homosexual love interest.
Good for him, you probably need it with 13 minutes of screentime.
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>>153299524
>YOI fujos are delusional about some scenes like the airport scene
Elaborate?
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>>153299612
It won't happen in a show like yoi with a gay guy who is obsessed with another man
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>>153299555
They're practically making fun of it there though. It's not taken as seriously.
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>>153299524
>I'm pretty sure he was going to confess.
>YOI fujos are delusional about some scenes like the airport scene. It feels good to be right.
Oh the irony.
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>>153299669
bait
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>>153299570
>???
Fuck off tumblr.

>>153299625
I'll take 13 minutes of canon homo over 12 episodes of bait, thanks.
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>>153299612
And what makes you think Yuri is such a person? Does any scene after that reflect the fact he's in love with her?
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>>153299715
How insightful
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>>153299524
What did they think of the airport scene? I'm curious.
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>>153299555
>Comic relief scenes from a manga adaptation vs anime original with 12 episode romance
Really makes you think.
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>>153299729
What is the point of this? You or some other kawoshinfag started this. You do know there's YoIfags who like kawoshin too, right? It's not like this helps kawoshin's credibility in any way, they're two separate series and this argument is irrelevant.
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>>153299753
>Yuuri and Victor will never get an onscreen, unobscured kiss like this
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>>153299729
>I'll take 13 minutes of canon homo over 12 episodes of bait, thanks.
Who got baited in YoI?

I know Evafags got baited because they keep hoping Kaworu will be more than a one time thing. I remember people speculating thee was going to be a kiss in 3.0. Kek.
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>>153299767
>12 episode romance with no kiss, no love confession
Yes, it makes you think.
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>>153299800
>>Yuuri and Victor will never get an onscreen, unobscured kiss like this
I don't think YoI wants a side romance that goes nowhere and ends with one dead and one married to a woman anyway.
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>>153291704
Both of those couples would be improved if they were both little sub bitches licking on my dick, prove me wrong
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It's actually strange, like, I adore Yuri and Vitya, but I'm completell repulsed by kawoshin. Maybe it's because of kawoshin's disastrous nature, maybe because Kaworu and Shinji actually don't look that good inside, maybe it's because I get their characters, but I just dislike it
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>>153299753
>muh bonobos
>don't end up together, has a het ending
No thanks.
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>>153292066
Cry boy, cry.
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>>153299825
So Yuuri and Victor are just straight friends?
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>>153299896
Why not.
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>>153299887
Not gay.
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>>153299825
>no kiss
They do. Nothing in context suggested it was anything but.They kiss on the hands too which is an intimate gesture and is played seriously.
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>>153299804
Yeah, I definitely got baited when I learned Kaworu would be bumped up to an entire movie from one episode. Anno sure showed me.

At least when Kaworu and Shinji kiss, we know it's a kiss.
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>>153299961
>At least when Kaworu and Shinji kiss, we know it's a kiss.
Mixing Karl with Anime Kaworu.

Kek.
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>>153299961
And when they say "I love you", they never add "but not like that!".
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>>153299961
I'm a kawoshinfag but god their relationship was terrible in the manga. They even had Shinji do the "b-but we're both boys" bullshit.
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>>153299961
>Yeah, I definitely got baited when I learned Kaworu would be bumped up to an entire movie from one episode. Anno sure showed me.
>Nothing happened on screen
>Not even a love confession
>Not even a kiss
>Kaworu is dead again

He sure did.
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>>153299896
>soulmates
>but Yuuri is autistic and isn't aware that he got engaged to Victor
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>>153299978
Still canon and more than Yuuri and Victor get
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>>153299961
>At least when Kaworu and Shinji kiss, we know it's a kiss.
Kek, I never notice the hand to censor the CPR.
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>>153299729
>YOI
>12 episodes of bait
Is this like KumiReifags in Hibike?
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Reminder that Shinji is canonically heterosexual
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>>153300018
And still gayer than Baldfat

Remember Yuuri says "IT'S NOT ROMANTIC LOVE"

>>153300014
True, but at least Shinji recognized he was thirsty for that angel dick.
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>>153300021
>but Yuuri is autistic and isn't aware that he got engaged to Victor

Yuuri is a classic Nip

Yuuri is a classic Nip
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>>153300032
Manga Kaworu is basically a completely different character than the shitty anime one.

>Yuuri and Victor get
They are not dead and together, it's more than Shinji and Kaworu will ever get.
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>>153300056
Sadamoto confirmed it was a kiss
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>>153299729
It's not bait if they kissed
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Why do Kawoshinfags feel the need to make threads doing this all the time and trying to prove it?

Shouldn't they feel secure about it's canonicity enough to not have to?
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>>153299896
yes
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>>153299961
Shinji was literally sleeping, anon
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>>153300059
>Is this like KumiReifags in Hibike?
Nope, it's retards trying to bait really.
It's nothing like that.
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>>153300093
They aren't together, Yuuri said his love for Victor isn't romantic love

>>153300126
Kubo said it could be a hug
Up to your "imagination" desu
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>>153299852
>adore Yuri and Vitya
>repulsed by kawoshin
shit taste
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>>153300132
Making fun of Baldfatfags is fun.
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>>153297975
What time does the event start tokyo-time? Will you post afterwards? Have fun anon!
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>>153300078
>crunchy subs
Really makes you think
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>>153300112
>Sadamoto confirmed it was a kiss
It was a joke, also you bitch about censored kiss and post one from an established franchise in which they cover the lips.
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>>153299945
>№6
>not gay
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>>153300067
So much this
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>>153300157
>Kubo said it could be a hug
>Up to your "imagination" desu
These baits posts are so lazy.

She didn't say that, and it can't be a kiss, if you watched the show you wwould know why.
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>>153300174
As opposed to the translation of some brazilian fujo?
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>>153300093
Rebuild confirmed that Kaworu and Shinji are star crossed lovers. You can't beat that.
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>>153300132
It's a falseflagger trying to get us to fight with each other.

>>153300171
It starts at 10, I'll try to take pictures/videos. Thanks.
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>>153300157
That's disingenuous and too simplified to what he actually said in nip. It was more that he wasn't truly aware of what exactly his feelings at the time.
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>>153300206
It just shows how retarded hetfags are, really
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>>153300193

Sadamoto said they kissed and Kaworu made the comment about cpr because he was too nervous about what he just did.

Someone post the interview, I din't have it with me
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>>153300224
>and it can't be a kiss
I agree. Yuuri and Victor aren't gay after all.
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>>153300234
Learn to moon.

>>153300239
Through symbolism. In fact, nothing in 3.0 is stated explicitly either.
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>>153300239
>You can't beat that.
Try to not kill Kaworu every time, Master Anno.
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>>153300157

Yuri said he wasn't sure what type of love to call it yet but Victor is the first person he wants to be binded to and never let go. Crunchy subs are shit.
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>>153300224
I'm assuming you made a typo because it's more that she's implied it's a kiss and didn't know why westerners were so questioning about it.
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>>153300276
>Sadamoto said they kissed and Kaworu made the comment about cpr because he was too nervous about what he just did.
I'm not arguing they didn't kiss, dumbass. I'm pointing out the kiss is censored there too, for much irony.
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>>153300276
>——What about Kaworu and Shinji’s kiss scene? Was that also because of Kaworu’s complex feeling?
>I deliberately put that part in the manga even I knew it was wrong to do something like this.(laugh) When I designed this scene, my intend is that I can’t draw this as a merely kiss. I reamember reading that you can use kiss as a CPR, you can use your mouth. I always thought that I can make this a kiss scene. But I still felt very shy, so when I was drawing this scene, I didn’t make any sketches (laugh) When I modified the art, the whole page was covered with white correction fluid. After that, Kaworu’s attitude was also trying to cover up his shyness. He joked about “It worked!” or something. It was also I was covering up my own shyness.(laugh)

>——It was because Kaworu’s straightforward nature mixed with Rei’s feeling to touch Shinji?
In fact, Shinji and Rei, and Shinji and Asuka, their touch stopped at holding hands. Everytime they hold their hands, it has a different meaning. It is one fun fact about EVA……So I never intend to let the children’s relationship go beyond that. On the contrary, Kaworu is the only one who overstep the boundary, he break the rule.
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>>153300157
She laughed at all the dumb western fans who pressed her on twitter
"no Japanese person asked me about that scene, they needed no explanation"
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>>153300314
Not until Ikuhara returns his affections
If he can't have his Kaworu, then no one can.
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>>153300294
So Victor surprised Yuuri with a hug?
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>>153300454
>B-but they are straight
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>>153297350
>You mean the kissing that Kubo said could be interpreted as a hug?
Q: Viktor’s response to Yuri’s skating in ep7 was quite something. (laughs) Kubo: I made sure to include many moments that lead up to it so that it didn’t feel out of place, and when the emotions were running high… I decided to strike. (laughs)
Q: What was the most memorable scene for you, or one you are glad to have seen animated? Kubo: The last scene of episode 7. The last scene of e7 influenced the flow of the show and left quite an impression. I’m glad I portrayed everything that lead up to it. I got some incredible feedback via Twitter on the ep7 scene. Fans from overseas kept thanking me for some reason. (laughs) I found it funny that overseas fans kept asking for a confirmation regarding ep7 scene - the Japanese fans didn’t seem to need any.
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>>153300454
That looks just like my fujobait anime.
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>>153300536
>adding your own shit in the interview
Delusional
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>>153300454
>clubmates
can Kubo be forgiven?
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Just friends.
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>>153300454
Sorry anon, looks like you never had friends.
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>>153300544
>That looks just like my fujobait anime.
I'd like to know all those fujobaits anime you are watching with a focus on romance like that.
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I think I caught the fujo. Should I seek help?
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Shinji wasn't attracted to kaworu, he probably fapped a thousand times to the main girls(it is implied numerous times) he also fapped to a girl on screen which was the first time ever in any anime. Anno was just baiting fujos.
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>3 months of gay interviews
>Suddenly one line of text that change one dettail of the show is enough to turn the whole thing straight.
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>>153300618
Did you forget where you are?
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>>153300591
This cleansed my soul after this shitfest of a day.
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Kubo and Anno should meet up
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>>153300618
I don't you had friends either. Or a girlfriend.
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>>153300685
Still not as great as
>6 months of gay show, actual marriage proposal on the show, love confession
>Suddenly one line of text no homo it
Based Kurata.
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>>153300685
It's not, it's just Yuuri's autism
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>>153300711
Oh yeah she is looking for husbando, right?
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>>153300749
It's barely the same, Samumenco wasn't homo until the last 2 episodes.

>>153300752
I know, I was pointing at people double standard. Like they love that Kubo's tweet but ignore all the homo ones.
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>>153300740
I have friends, we do stuff like this all the time, it's your regular bromance. Not like I don't want it to be gay, but it just doesn't seem so yet.
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>>153299264
Heh, I thought Mr. Greek Alphabet was just a generic bishonen.
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>>153300711
Kawoshin x Baldfat OVA please
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>>153300749
I kinda want to see Kurata-like shitstorm in Yoi, It would be hilarious to watch
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>>153300819
>I have friends, we do stuff like this all the time,
Your friend wants to fuck you.
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>>153300693
I did.
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>>153300807
>Samumenco wasn't homo until the last 2 episodes.
Rewatch it. Goto's "girlfriend" shipped Goto and Masayoshi.
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>>153300837
Please explain the plot.
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>>153300825
He's Kaworu from another loop.
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>>153300877
Kawoshin and Baldfat try to outgay each other in the most explicit and kinky ways possible.
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>>153300874
>Rewatch it. Goto's "girlfriend" shipped Goto and Masayoshi.
That's cute, but hardly homo. You can view Goto and Masa as friends, that's what bait is, but you can't view Yuri and especially Victor as just friends, that's just idiotic.
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>>153298763
There's no way out of this hell.
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>>153300926
Samumenco was weird, it didn't know what it wanted to be to the very end
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>>153300887
And here I was thinking that Luluco was just a female incarnation of Naota.
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>>153291704
Ryo and Akira
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"Be my clubmate, Victo~r!"
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>>153300703

>Yuri's eyebrows are on model in this one

I feel watched
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>>153300807

On rewatch after the twists you could tell Goto was developing feelings for Masayoshi, even his "girlfriend" pushes him forward
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>>153300877

Swingers and cucks
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>>153298241
Where did you find this pic? Been searching for Yoi and Eva crossovers forever
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>>153301120
>clubmate
Behold, new lingo for homosexuality is born!
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>>153298442
This
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>>153301351

Well, there are gay clubs
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>>153301332
There's been a bunch of them all over twitter and pixiv
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>>153298442
I honestly got tired for Kawoshin, I used to ship pretty hard but these days I'm mostly meh about it.

It must have been all those delicious manga Kaworu doujins by Cassino that converted my dick.
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>>153299623
I want Kaworu to put his dick in this shota mouth
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>>153301275

I kek'd when it hit me that he has been purchaaing the magazines Masayoshi appears on
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>>153301434
Shinji would take it like a champ
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>>153301434
You ain't a shota, neckbeard.
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>>153300877
Gay cucking
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>>153301506
10/10 would watch
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>>153301402
Why does Yuuri need 565615 episodes of Victor seducing him but Shinji jumps into bed with Kaworu 3 seconds after meeting him despite his awkward angelic flirting
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>>153291704
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>>153301542
Shinji has been lusting after teenage boy cock but he's surrounded by hot pussy instead.
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>>153301542
Because Shinji represents Anno's cocklust for Ikuhara.

He has to be an immediate slut for him or it won't make sense.
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>>153301495
>wipes off own cum leftovers from boyfriend's cheek
>"here you go, shinji-kun, you look beautiful"
>"t-thank you, kaworu-kun"
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>>153301649
Seems legit
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kubo was a mistake

let's hope she get's drive-by'd at the event today.
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>>153301760
Let's hope they fire her and hire a better writer.
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>>153301822
She's the one who created them
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>>153301542
Yuuri only needed one night and 16 glasses of champagne to start grinding on Victor's dick though
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>>153301874
I know, but she didn't do a good job writing the story.
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>>153301874
I thought Yamamoto created them
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>>153301972
They did it together.
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>>153291704
Kaworu and Victor are pure maidens.

Yuuri and Shinji are pure sluts that can take 50 cocks up the ass and mouth at the same time.

Therefore Kaworu x Victor is the best couple.
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>>153302086
Kaworu wouldn't fuck a russian dude though cause he's not Shinji and Victor wants to remain a virgin forever for Yuuri
Not a good deal
They should be bros
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>>153301760
>kubo was a mistake
Jesus christ people, she also said the rings are proof of soulmates, calm your titties. It changes overall nothing much.

>>153301822
Fuck off, she's the reason we got a happy gay romance instead of a tragic one or nothing at all.
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>>153301760
How many hours till the event?
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>>153302290
Around 12
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>>153302290
~5 or 6?
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>>153302398
No, it starts at 10 PM. It's still 9 AM over here.

I haven't even gone to bed yet, fuck.
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>>153302471
Tell Yamamoto that she's too good for Kubo and should hire a better writer.
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>>153302194
they can talk about their autistic bislut boyfriends
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>>153302511
Yamamoto isn't even gonna be there
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>>153302569
What a waste.
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>>153302590
Yeah, it's just Kubo and the three main seiyuu

At least the tickets were cheap.
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>>153302612
Then tell Suwabe that I want to fuck his voice.
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>>153302272
>gay romance
you mean bromance
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>>153302872
Do you kiss your bro on the lips
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>>153302872
>framed with eros
>bromance
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Kaworu is so pure
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Why are YOI fujoshits still on /a/? Fuck back off to tumblr or twitter you fucking landwhales.
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>>153303449
I'm gay and this thread interests me. Get the fuck out, faggot.
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>>153303449
Because YOI sold more than your favorite Anime
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>>153303008
I do hug my friends. And kiss them on the cheek. Nothing gay there.
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>>153303449
>fujoshits still on /a/
>implying fujoshits haven't always been on /a/

oh anon
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>>153303449
Fuck off to your /r/safespace if this thread triggers you so much, faggot.
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these kubo scribbles are pretty great though
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Put 部活の仲間同士 in Twitter search and have fun
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>>153302872
I don't know what bromance you saw that they act like Yuuri and Victor, but it's one I wish to have.
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>>153303730
YOIfags are Tumblr fujoshi, not regular /a/ fujos.
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>>153303964
Someone replace Anno's picture with Kubo's
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>>153303964
>I don't know what bromance you saw that they act like Yuuri and Victor
School 2013, for example. Not an anime, but still.
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>>153304012
>YOIfags are Tumblr fujoshi, not regular /a/ fujos.
Sup homo threads. Still bitter?
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>>153304087
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>>153304215
But she said they are soulmates and it's true love. Why wouldn't I believe?
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>>153304106
That's actually one of the best bromances ever, and really rivals a romance emotionally but they still don't act like Baldfat
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>>153304206
You tell me. Where did the homo threads touch you?
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>>153304215
Based anon
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>>153304317
Still bitter, I see. It's so sad to watch.
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>>153304376
Persecution complex much?
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>>153304376
>21 August 2016

fujo clairvoyance is stronk
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>>153302272
She downgraded Yuuri into a typical oblivious middle school MC who will accidentally performs an entire engagement ceremony and not even be thinking about marriage in the slightest. He's supposed to be insecure and in denial about himself and his feelings, not a brainless dolt for arguably the most groundbreaking scene in the series.

It's worse that this takes place after what should've been 8 months of relationship development yet he seems to have backpeddled farther in understanding his feelings in 5.
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>>153303942
Kek and people say nip fujo don't get pissed
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>>153303942
>>153305039
Quick summary pls
I don't speak moon
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Is it even fair to compare the two? Kawoshin will never be happy as long as Evas and Angels exist. Baldfat at last can live happily in their canon's reality. Kawoshin are still children.

Kawoshin is also heavily based in metaphors. Baldfat is straightforward. Both are gay but I can't really compare since their dynamics are so different.
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calling it now, in a few years there will be a sports anime and it will be marketed as both BL and sports anime. it will be full homo and have decent plot
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>>153305226
YOI is also trash while Eva is decent.
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>>153304206
If you've been on /a/ more than a year, you have to admit the YoI threads are tumblr-tier.
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>>153305351
>>153282905
>勇利が買ったのはペアリングです。調べてみたらペアのほうが安かったと(笑)、お揃いのものを持つならやっぱりこれかなと思って。実際の選手でもアクセサリーをお守り代わりに付けている方はたくさんいますしね。何よリ、これまでヴィクトルを新鮮に驚かせてきた勇利が、あともうひとつ最後決戦を戦うための武器というか、新たなアイテムが欲しかったんです。山本監督に指輪を提案したら「それですよ!!」と(笑)。追い詰められたアスリートはそういうことやるやる!となって。結婚的な意味合いよりも、部活の仲間同士で同じものを持とう、みたいなノリに近いです。
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>>153305481
I know there's a translation, just giving the page for anyone who wants it.
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>>153305398
Naturally. Yoi is garbage and aimed at women.
Consequently, you'll have threads full of women with shit taste.
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>>153305619
Just saying for the anon who believes only the homo threads see them that way.
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>>153305481
FUCKING LAME HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO ENJOY THE GAYNESS

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>153303942
I'm glad to see some frustration coming from the Japanese fans.
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>>153305988
>Reichu
Wow, a warp to the past.
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>>153305173
Things like how clubmates never get rings and if that's what he was going for Yuuri should've picked a different item. Or them calling bullshit because of how the scene was directed. "Then half the world's proposals are club activities then!" Kek
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>>153306078
Can I join this marriage club?
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>>153306078

I GOT IT GUYS

LET'S ALL GET MARRIED
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>>153306171
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>>153305481
My fucking sides. The rings are just good luck charmsfags win, delusional fujos lose again.
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>>153306171
>Let's all get married!
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>>153306216
I'm getting war flashbacks
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>>153306338
Fuck off, whore. You ruined EagleLantis.
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>>153306278
>>153298526
Read thread
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Yuri Katsuki was a mistake
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>>153306437
whatever do you mean
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>>153306635

Should have just gone with what you set up beforehand, man. It's worse than walking up to the panel and saying "I'm a spineless hack who can't deal with icky homos" since at least doing that implies you're somewhat self-aware.
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>>153306635

What makes me feel better about Samumenco is that no one seemed to listen or agree with Kurata. The mangaka even continued the anime with a epilogue where they still live together and Masayoshi speaks of themselves as a couple.
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>>153306635
At least I can rationalize you trying to save a sinking ship. Kubo on the other hand is full retard.
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Kurata, Yamada, Tanaka and now Kubo. Who is next?
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>>153307214
Utsumi
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>>153306278
>delusional fujos lose again
It's not like the series is suddenly het, are you still butthurt delusional anon?
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>>153307214
>Comparing Kubo to Kurata
People actually think Yuri and Victor and straight and not in love?
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>>153307892
Oh my, don't tell me you took it as a personal attack. Did I hurt your feelings?
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>>153308051
Yeah, you hurt my feeling by dropping shitposters favorite buzzwords. Is this your first day on /a/, actually?

Still butthurt I see. It's kind amazing when you look at it. It's been 2 months since the show ended and people keep coming into this thread trying to no-homo the whole show. At least people who denied Eva had other reason to like the series, but in your case, what gives?
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>>153307970
>in love
do they look anything other than comrades in arms? idiot
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>>153307214
Kubo also said it was true love and the rings were a proof they were soulmates.
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>>153306278
The rings are also proof they are soulmates.
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>>153308375
>>153308504
Keep reminding yourself that since Victor's feelings are one sided at this point
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>>153308176
>t-totally not insecure and butthurt, guys!
>throws an autistic tantrum whenever people make fun of delusional fujoshits or say something bad about her ship
Also it's adorable that you took as a personal attack a post making fun of delusional fujoshits. Looks like deep down you are insecure and aware of how delusional you are.
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>>153308699
>delusional
>delusional
Keep using that word. You have been butthurt about the homo for 6 months now.

Also I'm not a girl, you moron.
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>>153308660
>Keep reminding yourself that since Victor's feelings are one sided at this point
Did you skip every Ice Skating sequence with Yuuri?
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>>153308660
Nope, they confirmed it's true love and they are soulmates.
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>>153308911
Then why did he string him through a bait engagement if he knows he's in love with him?
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>>153309041
Because off ice Yuuri is antianxiety ridden.

Also shit writing.
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>>153309041
So do you think Yuri is straight and doesn't have feeling for Victor?
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>>153308800
Why would I be butthurt about your trashy ship? I couldn't care less about Baldfat. You gotta check that persecution complex.

>Also I'm not a girl
You sure act like one,. Are you perhaphs a trans"man"?
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>>153308911
probably
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>>153309108
You didn't answer the question. Why engagement bait someone he knows he's in love with already? That has nothing to do with him being straight.
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>>153309130
>Why would I be butthurt about your trashy ship? I couldn't care less about Baldfat
And yet you are, 6 months later.
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>>153309141
>people actually took that post seriously
>people actually use that oost as an argument
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>>153309265
>Why engagement bait someone he knows he's in love with already?
I don't know, go ask the person who wrote that shit.

No one buys a 600 euro wedding ring for good luck, the scene doesn't make sense either way.

This has nothing to do with homo as much it's shit writing that even contradicts previous interviews.
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>>153309290
>she keeps going on
Jesus. You don't get to throw a tantrum when I call you delusional when that's exactly what you are. Not everyone is the homo hating boogeyman inside your head.
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>>153309552
>she
>delusional
Keep going with the shitposting. Also only half of it work because I'm not a girl.

But keep using delusional.
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>>153309552
The irony is that hetfags are delusional.
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>>153309780
Stop acting like a girl on her period and people won't assume you're a she, if you really are not, which I doubt because you're acting exactly like a teen girl from Tumblr. As petty and bitchy as they act when someone says something bad about their favorite ship.
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>>153309352
So you're only going to accept as canon things that "make sense" to you, got it.
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>>153309933
Anon, did some girl from YoI thread hurt you? It's because you got told by the shows countless time that you can't move on?

At least use a new word, delusional is getting old.
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>>153310019
>So you're only going to accept as canon things that "make sense" to you, got it.
That's not what I said. I said that the scene doesn't make any sense the way she intended to. Which sometimes is soulmates sometimes is club shit anyway.

You can portray a thing in one way and then go "teheheh, I actually meant something completely different" without people calling it shit writing. This is not even related to homo, but to writing in general.

If Yuri was a girl that scene would be called shit writing.
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>>153310031
I don't browse your cancerous threads. Also if you don't want to be called delusional, stop acting like one.
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>>153310117
I never said Yuuri was straight. I said Yuuri doesn't know he's in love with Victor. Soulmates and true love are pretty meaningless at this point if he doesn't know his own feelings and leads Victor through a fake engagement.
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>>153300067
>You can't be a bi
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>>153307214
What is this, masters of baiting?
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>>153307298
Already fired.
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>>153306599

>I was only 27 years old
>I loved Yuuri so much, I had all the merchandise and performances on DVD
>I pray to Yuuri every night before bed, thanking him for the life I've been given
>"Yuuri is love" I say, "Yuuri is life"
>Yurio hears me and calls me a faggot
>I know he was just jealous of my devotion for Yuuri
>I called him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep
>I'm crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in bed and it's really cold
>A warmth is moving towards me
>I feel something touch me
>It's Yuuri
>I am so happy
>He whispers in my ear "please, become my coach"
>He grabs me with his powerful piggy hands and puts me on my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass cheeks for Yuuri
>He penetrates my butthole
>It hurts so much but I do it for Yuuri
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please Yuuri
>He roars a mighty roar as he fills my butt with his love
>Yurio walks in
>Yuuri looks him straight in the eyes and says "I'm just a katsudon fatale that enthralls men"
>Yuuri leaves through my window with Makkachin
>Yuuri is love, Yuuri is life
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What the fuck is going on here?
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>>153311781

Yuuri is love, Yuuri is life
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>>153311896
What about his relationship with Victor that people were arguing about?
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>>153311951

Kubo said in her recent interview Yuri is an oblivious idiot who thinks their rings are clubmates rings and it's Pigtler 2.0
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>>153312107

Justice for Victor Nikiforov
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>>153297402
>Get gigantic cocks rammed up my butthole aggresively, 7 days in a week.
>Remember that I had a girl I had a crush on when I was in grade school
>I'm still straight,
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Is proposing to other men a symptom of autism in japanese guys?
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Look, I liked YOI and I'm not saying Victor and Yuuri are straight, but I can't understand how some people say it's clear they're a couple.

To me it seems that through the entire season creators tried to put scenes which are technically romantic but also can be understood as platonical. This hurts the show, since we can't actually see progress in Victor/Yuuri relationship: sometimes it seems they are together, other times they're not at this level yet. It's not sequential, and it shits on character development, all because creators don't wanna (or can't) be explicit.
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They weren't even the best homo couple from their season.
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>>153312658
I understand what you are saying, but calling it platonical is a bit of a stretch.

It's more "It looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck but I'm not saying in plain text it is a duck".
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>>153312783
Like ET.
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>>153312796
>It's more "It looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck but I'm not saying in plain text it is a duck".

Yeah, that's a good definition.
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>>153312658
>also can be understood as platonical.
There's a huge grey area between being an official couple and being 'platonic'. They may not be explicitly dating, but they are far from platonic, and their sexual/romantic attraction to each other is so self evident it takes absurd mental gymnastics to deny. That includes the overarching themes of love and seduction throughout the series, the big, important scenes like the kiss, and minor, throwaway scenes like Victor saying he'd like to see Yuuri naked on ice.
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>>153303942
The Pash interview came out yesterday, and only 3 nips have talked about it. One of the results even shows a westerner who copied the raw text from /a/.
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Repulsive
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>>153305226
I'd say Kawoshin is way more straightforward than Baldfat.

They just come out with it and say they love each other.
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>>153291704
Why are all yaoi non MC white haired?
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>>153291704
>homo pairing
>at least one of them, if not both, is basically a girl
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>>153314773
Well, if they're both girls, that's still homo.
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>>153314773
>I've never met a girl in my life
Protip: having feelings is not exclusive to women
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I hope Aki is alright
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The nips are slow at finding out Pigtler.
https://twitter.com/hikawatokiko29/status/830275621448093696
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God damn, what is this clusterfuck going on with this thread? One fucking interview doesn't mean shit guys. Baldfat still is pretty fucking gay and if you don't agree with me you can go fuck yourself somewhere else.
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>>153316988

We know, but Kubo is being annoying.
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>>153316943

kek, don't delete and post more
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>>153305481
"結婚的な意味合いよりも、部活の仲間同士で同じものを持とう、みたいなノリに近いです。"

YOU FUCKTARDS
'YORI MO' MEANS LITERALLY:

"It's MORE this than that"

Saying that people are more lovers than friends DOESN'T NEGATE the fact that they are friends too.

Victor are Yuuri are both engaged AND close enough as ice skating pros, to share something that shows their are comrades through sports too.
Like Kubo said, they are SOULMATES.
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Honestly seeing nip fujos losing their shit at the possibility of being baited is endearing

This is unprecedent. Yuri!!! on Ice truly made history.
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>>153318012
That's not happening since nobody cares
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>>153316943
Half of those are Victor being a sexual predator and/or Hitler
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>>153314624
I think Eva started that trend actually
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Baldfat is great but Kawoshin is and always will be the reference. Everyone with basic knowledge in anime thinks about kawoshin when talking about canon homos.
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>>153318291

My mind sometimes wanders to Devilman tho they aren't a couple

Learning that the events of Devilman happen in an eternal loop to punish Satan by forcing him to watch the person he loves over and over was fucking incredible

The newest manga is cool
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>>153317214
They're not friends
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>>153318365
>happen in an eternal loop
Sounds familiar.
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>>153318450

Anno has an eternal boner for Go Nagai, he calls him Master iirc. He paid tribute to Devilman in Eva a lot, even Kaworu was originally supposed to be blonde.

You should read at least the original Devilman, it's great. Follow ups are Devilman Lady and Devilman Saga. Amon: Dark Side of Devilman explains a lot of shit about the lore of Devilman. Violence Jack is another continuity too but this one isn't fully scanlated.

Avoid the anime versions as plague except the 80s OVAs.
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>>153318048

Earlier today in the previous thread someone linked two angry fujos (one was a foreigner tho but typing in Japanese). If you put random words of the interview you get results about the interviews. I saw a fujo raging with her friends and a person going like "well at least we have the soulmates from CREA"
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>>153318517
I'm having a hard time deciding if Kaworu/Shinji is supposed to be Anno's Devilman fanfic or his Ikuhara fanfic.
Maybe a mix of both.
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>>153319632

Mix of both, Ikuni speaks like Kaworu
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>>153319683
kek
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>>153319746
Fuck, even I'd go gay for him.
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>>153300749
>everyone hypes up the non-fetish gay kiss
>watches
>obscured
>very awkward positioning to be a kiss
>no one ever states there was a kiss, ever.
>the rings were fucking retarded
>"I-it's a good luck charm"
>"OMFG THEY'RE GETTING MARRIED"
>"nah m8s, its a engagement ring."
>says victor, resident shit talker.

I want some tasteful canonical gay in my anime as much as the next fujofag but the fact there is no in universe confirmation and a fucktonne of obscuring is just laughable.
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>>153314773
I guess Kaworu is a girl
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>>153291704
Couple? Neither of these are couples. Kaworu and Shinji.
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Kaworu and Shinji
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So we're making a mountain out of a simple translation error? Again?

Never change, /a/
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>>153324103
Fujos are cray cray
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>>153324103
Yep you gotta love the drama
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>>153300664
Of course not, to fully enjoy it you should let it corrupt you until you are a shell of a person and your only real fun is to ship cute boys together.
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>>153325098
Fujos are mistake
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>>153317214
Doesn't change that the rings are 95% only "clubmates good luck charm" to Yuuri. It's assassination on his character development. The show is about him learning love and gaining confidence but by ep 10 he's just an oblivious harem MC according to Kubo.
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>>153324103
>error
That's literally what it says. You cucks are delusional.
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Kaworu/Shinji was written by a man so it's more genuine
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>>153327274
this. there is no error, but fujos who aren't even fluent in Japanese will cling to anything to deny reality.
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>>153327345
This
Fujos don't know how to write homo
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>>153327345
This.
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>>153329033
Reminds me of an article I've read. When females write BL, the characters tend to act like girls so it's more authentic if a male writes it.
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>>153300926
You do know that Goto's "girlfriend" was actually Goto texting himself the whole time, right?
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>>153329033
What about lesbians? Would they be able to write better homo than fujos?
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>>153327345
This.
Baldfat was written by a woman for fujos, but Kawoshin was written by a man for males.
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>>153327345
This. Girls write about girls with dicks.
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>>153327345
This. We are all gay and we like to suck thick black cocks so Anno understood us and wrote kawoshin for us white males so we can masturbate to two dudes fucking like true men, while our shitty 3DPDs are left to niggers
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>>153321335
>>very awkward positioning to be a kiss
>>no one ever states there was a kiss, ever.
It was a hug?
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>>153327345
Funny, as a fag I find Yuri and Victor more relatable, Kawoshin feels written with fujo sensibilities more than anything.
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>>153331548
You're a figure skater?
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>>153331548
That's because they are more relatable if people are objective about it and don't let your bias about who wrote it influence your opinion. It doesn't need to be written specially because they're gay, they don't act like women to begin with. Little scenes like the lost nuts incident or the carpark scene or the hair poking or getting drunk and grinding on someone are all a million times relatable and normal than Kawoshin's completely surreal dynamic.
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>>153330081
I'm a bookfag and it's usually easy to tell whether a book was written by a man or a woman. Most women just can't write believable male characters.
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>>153333815
What about Hiromu Arakawa?
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>>153331548
Johnny Weir?
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>>153333815
>I'm a bookfag and it's usually easy to tell whether a book was written by a man or a woman. Most women just can't write believable male characters.
It's not like men are much better, especially once you get to wish-fulfillment aspect many characters have.
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>>153333429
>they are more relatable because they grind up on each other and cry in parking lots

Oh, I see. You just have shit taste. Opinion discarded.
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>>153291704
for what purpose is this thread
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>>153329482
Explains why YoI felt like a shoujo heroine self-insert fantasy with sprinkles of josei here and there.
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>>153336806

Men written by women are either flanderized ideals (dashingly heroic, excessively stoic, town slut until they're monogamous to MC, etc.) or women with dicks.

Women written by men are sex objects with one-note themes (tsundere, kuudere, genki, etc.) or men with vaginas.

Finding the happy medium is rare. It's hard to write about something you've never lived as, after all. May as well write what you know (which is second-hand and often grossly inaccurate).
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Where are the BD RIPS?
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>>153329482
Except Kawoshin certainly aren't some masculine couple either. Staff made Kaworu and Shinji feminine, they've mentioned this, and many of their moments, especially in side material, are pure shoujo.
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>>153337681
>men with vaginas.
This
I can tell it's written by a man tell when I read yuri.
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>>153337769
Maybe because they're fucking 14.

Victor and Yuuri have no excuse, they're grown ass men.
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>>153300671
I'm taking this bait. I'm hating this thread already.
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>>153338073
The faces Shinji makes at Kaworu are truly one of a kind.
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>>153338148

I kek'd when it turned out that lance on core felt like sex and his next face was his orgasm face

Happiest orgasm face I have seen in anime
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Kawoshin is better. BaldFat can only do romance through skating metaphors. There relationship is stuck in coach skater limbo.
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>>153338254
>described as Kaworu giving Shinji ultimate ecstasy in the script

Why doesn't Ikuhara get a restraining order against Anno?
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>>153338350

Ikuni seems to enjoy the attention, he seemed amused in his All About Kaworu interview. He even hints the rumors about him saying to Anno what Kaworu said to Shinji during their onsen vacation may be true but were drunk.
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>>153337746
https://mega.nz/#!kNgkSYLS!_2SZO6bZZ-IyuMuCVgY5bCVDViYi_FG-BzxgrCb7nSc
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>>153338580
This better be vol.2 or really good porn, anon
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>>153338484
What if Ikuni ended up giving Anno a blowjob in the baths, but he was so drunk and forgot all about it and Anno still obsesses about it to this day?
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>>153338863
Be mai anime director, Anno!
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>>153337337
Yes, because realistic situations and interactions that can conceivably occur in our real life are the definition of relatable. A pseudo symbolic alien who exists solely to love us unconditionally then die is not realistic or relatable. Shinji is a relatable character, Kaworu is not, and their relationship is not either. The desire to be loved like that might be, but the relationship itself isn't.
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>>153339201
A gay Russian dude coming to coach you for figure skating isn't realistic or relatable either.
Victor certainly isn't a relatable character, he's even described as an alien by the staff.

A relationship with someone who makes you comfortable and accepts you in every way is relatable to everyone who has at least experienced the honeymoon stage of a relationship.

A relationship where you're in some weird will they-won't they limbo with your sports coach isn't.
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>>153338995

It's the other way around, Anno has been begging Ikuni to work on an anime with him since the 90s but for whatever reason they haven't. Anno even tried to seduce him with Evangelions, Rei is called Rei because that's Ikuni's favorite Sailor Scout and other shit.

They had an event together two year ago that felt like they could work together finally but nothing happened.

Remineder that Anno made a Ikuni doujin. Look up Farewell Sailor Moon.
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>>153339498
>A relationship where you're in some weird will they-won't they limbo with your sports coach isn't.

This. Fujo will like anything if there's at least homo feelings.
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>>153339201
>Yuuri/Victor
>realistic
Fucking kek, like this anon says >>153339498
the basis of Yuuri and Victor's relationship is ice skating. They met because of the sport, their relationship developed because of the sport. It's fucking centered around the sport in every interaction they have.

Unless you're a goddamned ice skater, it isn't relatable.

Shinji's insecurity with himself and desire to be loved by someone who would truly accept him is one of the most relatable and realistic feelings one can have.
You're never meant to relate to Kaworu, he can be a placeholder for someone in your own life; a mother, a lover, a waifu, etc.
What you're meant to relate to is Shinji's love for that figure after being neglected and rejected for so long.
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>>153340476

I know they are over the top in how they met and shit, but Yuri is one of the best portrayals of anxiety in anime.

Plus Yuri and Victor feeling of getting old and surpassed by younger generations translates well to anything that isn't ice skating. And Victor's fear of aging and dying alone, his feeling of wasting his life and youth away on being a workaholic is something that isn't exclusive to skating. Yuri is someone who crippled himself thinking he wasn't worth anything and Victor craves company and living a fullfilling life.
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>>153340669

Forgot to say that it's pointless to argue which one is more relatable or realistic because they have different fears proper of their age groups that obviously different kind of people will relate to.
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>>153337681
This so much I never relate to guys written by females, and my female friends very rarely relate to females written by dudes.
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>>153339498
>A relationship with someone who makes you comfortable and accepts you in every way is relatable to everyone who has at least experienced the honeymoon stage of a relationship.

Maybe if Kaworu wasn't a one note barely defined character.
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It's so sad to see fujos fighting like this, at least yurifags are friendly with each other.
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>>153291704
The one that is literally canon, I guess. Kaworu and Shinji. Sad a show in the 90s still had more balls than modern anime despite the increase in bl popularity.
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>>153340874

I know, this is retarded
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>>153340476
>Shinji's insecurity with himself and desire to be loved by someone who would truly accept him is one of the most relatable and realistic feelings one can have.
And this is different compared to Yuuri how?

>Unless you're a goddamned ice skater, it isn't relatable.
By this brilliant logic, unless you are in a relationship with an alien that gives you unconditional love you can't relate. No human is even close to what Kaworu gives.
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>>153340784
He's defined more than enough for his role in the Anime.

And ironically enough still more defined than Victor. 12 episodes and we don't know anything about the dude.
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>>153294376
>Yuri on Ice is just a fujobait and not a real yaoi, you moron
You mean, just like Eva?
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>>153340896
>Sad a show in the 90s still had more balls than modern anime despite the increase in bl popularity.
Yuri on Ice should have 10 minutes of screentime and kill one of the homos in the end so waifu fags don't have to deal with buttsex implications.
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>>153340874
I don't even know why people are still replying. It's pointless. Just let it die.
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>>153340905
The difference is the relationship could still be done in any setting.

The relationship in Yuri on Ice is defined by Ice skating, it can't be done in any other setting.
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>>153340874
Yurifag here. I wish from the bottom of my heart that all /u/fags would die in a horrible fire.
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>>153340943
>He's defined more than enough for his role in the Anime.
Bullshit. Even beta-Script Kaworu is far more defined than current Anime Kaworu.

He's a plot device that gives Shinji unconditional love, it becomes even more apparent when you get Karl who is an actual character.
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>>153340965
I'd rather have that than fujobait, which is what Yuri on Ice was.

>>153340986
20 posts till bump limit
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>>153341013
They're massive shitposters but they're friendly, fujos are just petty and hate each other so much.
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>>153340991
>The difference is the relationship could still be done in any setting.
No, it can not. Kaworu character is so absurd that he don't work in any other setting without falling apart.
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>>153340943
>And ironically enough still more defined than Victor
Really? you think a guy who had 10 minutes of screentime just to die really has more character than an actual main character? at least use manga Kaworu.
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>>153340965
Good thing that relationship has appeared again in multiple spinoffs and adaptions and again and has always been explicitly stated to be canon, then.
Meanwhile Victor and Yuuri will always be written by an autistic fujoshi who wants to dance around it.
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>>153341059
>I'd rather have that than fujobait, which is what Yuri on Ice was.

You don't know what fujobait is. By your logic even Kaworu is a shitty fujobait character (People certainly called him that in the past) because he baits fujoshi only to get killed every time.

Heck 3.0. is far less explicit than the original series.
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>>153341070
>fujos are just petty and hate each other so much
What the fuck, have you ever been to the yoi thread while it was airing? It was an actual hugbox I liked it truly yuri on ice.
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>>153340669
>>153340729

the comparision itself is fucking pointless and only based on superficial traits. anyone who watched both anime knows that Yuri and Victor are more Misato and Kaji like.
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>>153341039
Sure, script Kaworu is more defined.
But Anime Kaworu was defined enough, much more than some of the other minor characters who had way more screentime than him.
This is why he still gets clones in other Anime to this day. And Victor won't.

Prove to me that Victor is more defined than Kaworu, we literally know less about him than we did with Kaworu in those 10 minutes.

>>153341136
He does. We don't know anything about Victor.

Manga Kaworu is taken straight from some cliche Harada BL, I don't care for him and his character is not impressive in the slightest.
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>>153341208
I'm talking about the fujos on this thread
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>>153341136
They did that shit of a job with Victor, yeah.
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>>153341179
>It's not gay unless the author 100% stated it
Idiot.
The funny thing is that your argument is literally what people used for Eva in the past, before Anno interviews started to surface.
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>>153341219
That makes no sense.

Yuuri sees Victor as a God to where he's surprised he's even able to cry. It's Kaworu-Shinji more than anything.
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>>153341274
The authors didn't state it, they rejected it.
They no homo-ed the rings.
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>>153341231
>But Anime Kaworu was defined enough, much more than some of the other minor characters who had way more screentime than him.
>Manga Kaworu is taken straight from some cliche Harada BL, I don't care for him and his character is not impressive in the slightest.

Not enough one note wish fulfiment for you, in manga Kaworu?

Manga Kaworu is a character, anime Kaworu is a plot device to make a point.

You know nothing about him, he confessed to Shinji 5 seconds later and die 7 minutes later.
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>>153341198
NGE and manga can't be bait when they literally confirm Shinji and he like each other in both. With confessions AND overt signs of it. Even an actual kiss you can see in the manga. Rebuild is bait, though. Clearly influenced by the state of anime nowadays. Yoi is no different.
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>>153341346
>The authors didn't state it, they rejected it.

She didn't.

>They no homo-ed the rings.
So? Anno also said Shinji didn't feel sexual feeling during the bath scene. By your logic he no homed it too.
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>>153341198
>because he baits fujoshi only to get killed every time
So was he baiting hetfags by killing Kaji every time? Fucking kek.

Kaji, Yui, and Kaworu always die. It's thematically important they die. They're still the canon love interests, nonetheless. Hence they all act similarly.

Rebuild is not NGE and everyone agrees it's shit.
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>>153341246
This thread is full of shitposters though, mods should deleted it
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>>153341383
That's not what bait is. The only thing apparent is your own bias that basically accept a character is gay unless it's stated 100% on text which it's idiotic.

The fucking irony here is that people argued Eva wasn't gay for years and called it bait, ignoring the clues presented in the show.
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>>153291704
I suppose one where the story boarder doesn't say that the 'kiss' they shared was 'interpretable' and that the pair rings a dude brought weren't for marriage, but to bind a skater and his coach. Seriously, what a joke.
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>>153341398
>Anno also said Shinji didn't feel sexual feeling during the bath scene
Wrong, he stated he wasn't predominantly fueled by sexual feeling there.
Which enforces Kawoshin even more, because Shinji's feelings with Kaworu were supposed to be genuine versus his solidly sexual feelings for the girls.

He wasn't treating Kaworu like a piece of meat.
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>>153341274
People will deny it even with interviews. That's irrelevant. It is easily debunked by actually referencing Shinji's words about Kaworu IN THE SHOW. Can't say the same for yuri and the author does not confirm it in interviews like Anno either. In fact they back out rather than double down.
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>>153341475
>10 minutes of homo with an alien that dies is more courageous than a 13 episode anime series about men eros romance
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>>153341219
Are you retarded? Yuuri is a fucking fanboy who idolized Victor. They are nothing like Kaji and Misato who saw each other as equals in a self destructive relationship.
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>>153341443
With such an OP it was pretty much inevitable. Shitposters are attracted by the smell of turd.
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>>153341296

Wrong. Yuri was surprised to see Victor cry because he though he was already planning to go back to Russia and wouldn't feel bad about suggesting a separation. Yuri has been treating Victor like a person for a long time, he was the one who told him to be himself, sent him to see his dog and pokes fun of his balding complex.
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>>153340669
watch more anime
The theme of overcoming ones fear and anxiety is one of the most cliched things in all of story telling not just in anime.
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>>153341353
Manga Kaworu is different because Shinji is different.
I personally don't care for him because Sadamoto makes him humanized, makes his arc centered around coming to understand emotion which is just a fucking retread of Rei.

He doesn't act like the mother of all angels would like Anime Kaworu does. He's not interesting to me, I've seen his arc and development a million times before.
An alien figure coming into contact with a human and giving his impressions of their race and culture isn't something I've seen done much in Anime. Before Kaworu came along, at least.

Anime Kaworu is certainly a character, he moves both the plot and Shinji's development, but he has his own motivation and plight. It's more defined than other minor characters in the series, so you're claim is retarded.

Feel free to tell me what you know about Victor after 12 episodes worth of screentime. Let's see if it matches up with Kaworu's 10.
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>>153341537
>That's irrelevant. It is easily debunked by actually referencing Shinji's words about Kaworu IN THE SHOW
I guess you never argued with hetfags about Eva? Because I did.

"He loves Shinji like a mother", "Shinji loves him as a friend", "Kaworu is not a boy because he's an alien" "He said love, but you can also use it to say you love a friend".

They are all things that people said, they ignored everything laid in the show and claim it was ambiguous, which it's what people do with YoI nowadays.

Even if you ignore episode 7 and 10 YoI has shitons of romantic scenes, but of course they don't matter.
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>>153341655
Yeah, Yuuri slowly starts seeing Victor less and less like a god, to the point in ep 7 he basically rants during his FS that he's an inexperienced coach and that he can be pretty dense sometimes.
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>>153341655
>Yuri was surprised to see Victor cry...
You're an idiot, he said "so even you can cry"
He still sees him as a God.
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>>153341709
It's amazing you can make all that bullshit about a literal plot device but you literally skipped stuff like episode 10 on YoI.
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>>153341576
>putting words in my mouth
I said none of that, and you didn't argue against anything I said either. I'm not a Kawoshinfag so I won't go arguing with you about which one is better.

Both relationships may be shallow, but atleast I don't have to nitpick interviews to suit my agenda for one of these two couples.

>>153341711
>Zestiriafag
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>>153341537
You haven't been in the Eva fandom long, have you?
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>>153341576
A character dying doesn't erase what happened. Canonically making the main character of a show like that bisexual is a pretty ballsy move and paid off massively. Its not like they took the easy way and just made a fujo pandering show from the onset. There's no shock there.
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>>153341711
IN THE SHOW OF YURI ON ICE, Yuuri says his love for Victor is not romantic love
Denies Phiticht saying their rings are marriage rings
Wants to end things with Victor

AND the staff back out of it despite having their audience be mostly fujo.

Compare this with Eva's 90% male otaku audience and Anno not giving a fuck and shoving the gay down their throats.
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>>153341781
>Both relationships may be shallow, but atleast I don't have to nitpick interviews to suit my agenda for one of these two couples.
That's actually what people did about Eva too. Evageek was a master at it.

You can literally tell who never argued about homo before nowadays. I bet you don't know people denied even fucking No.6 when it aired.
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>>153341657
This. I don't understand the exaggerated praise anon is heaping onto it unless they never indulge in fiction.
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>>153341739

He called him a retard, kek
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>>153341838
>IN THE SHOW OF YURI ON ICE, Yuuri says his love for Victor is not romantic love
That's not even what he said.
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>>153341711
Are you incapable of reading? People who deny it are irrelevant. It's stated both in the show/manga and further confirmed in interviews. Same simply can't be said for yuri on ice with the "club ring" shit.
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>>153341850
Kaworu could be balls deep in Shinji and Evageeks would still deny it.

Oh wait- He already was.

They had a collective heart attack when 3.0 released.
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>>153341838
I remember when I made this niconico screencap back in 2012 or something, it's still there where I first posted.

I need to leave 4chan.
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>>153341799
>it wasn't homo at the beginning and it wasn't homo when it ended so that makes it more ballsy
Yeah no. The argument you're looking for is that of the male teenage/young men "mecha" target demographic and how bold and questionnable a choice it is to introduce homolust in show targeted to that audience.
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>>153341764

>taking one liners and ignoring context and what came before

He said that becaude he knows Victor isn't a person who cries and because he geniunely though it wouldn't affect him too much he couldn't understand it at first. That was the first time he cried in years, confirmed he isn't a person who cries.
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>>153341767
Just keep shouting the same buzzwords and maybe someone will believe you.

Even the staff admit they didn't know how to write Yuuri and Victor's characters. They're too goddamn inconsistent.
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>>153341764

So he goes from seeing Victor as an Abrahamic deity (infallible) to a Greco-Roman god (powerful beyond mortal comprehension but posessing faults).

One day he might actually see Victor as human. One day.
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>>153340669
He doesn't overcome anything. Yuuri is no better than an oblivious harem MC for doing a fake engagement just for good luck club rings
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>>153341838
>Yuuri says his love for Victor is not romantic love
Again, you're relying on shit subs, because it wasn't that simplified, as he didn't say it was platonic either. The point of that scene was that he did know exactly what his complex feelings were in that point in time, but decided it was love nonetheless and he wanted to bind himself to Victor anyway. He's inexperienced with love in general.
>Denies Phiticht saying their rings are marriage rings
Because they aren't married.
>Wants to end things with Victor
Because he thought Victor wanted to go back to the ice and thought he was doing the right thing for him. Rewatch ep 11.
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>>153341905
>Are you incapable of reading
Are you? YoI narrative doesn't make sense if you don't assume they are not gay, they have a bazillion of romantic moments. I don't need confirmation, I have eyes. It's no different than Eva 24.

Both show point at one thing, but retard keep denying it.

>Same simply can't be said for yuri on ice with the "club ring" shit.
What about the soulmates one, the true love interview and the Otsuka one?
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>>153341838

>trusting Crunchy shitty subs

He said he wasn't sure what kind of love it was but wanted to be binded to him
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>>153341959
Mecha homolust back then was between the two MC rivals, and so subtle the male fanbase didn't care and the fujo fanbase did.

Completely different from Kaworu showing up and Shinji confessing his love for him over the girls.
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>>153341996
>Just keep shouting the same buzzwords and maybe someone will believe you.
>Even the staff admit they didn't know how to write Yuuri and Victor's characters. They're too goddamn inconsistent.

The irony is that you keep everything to fit your agenda.

Hey I can do that.

Shinji is not gay because Kaworu is an angeeeeeel.

Anno is a coward because is 20 years he never managed to cook a scenarion in which his supposed OTP was happy.

Kaworu is a garbage character with 10 mintues of screentime who gets killed and is not on EoE beach.
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>>153341905
Is that literally the only interview you've read?
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>>153341978
Delusional.
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>>153341996
Eva staff has talked before about how they don't exactly know/get Kaworu either.
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>>153341850
>Evageek was a master at it.
But they're autistic in general, so I'd hope most wouldn't take them seriously. They can't even get basic plot points right.

I don't think anyone in this thread can deny the obvious romantic/sexual attraction between Yuri/Victor. But the staff having inconsistent commentary for their relationship does not help prove the claim that they were 100% intended to be such.

It makes neither interpretation valid or invalid, and that's pretty much a problem for a couple most consider 'canon'.
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>>153342121
Keep crying about your seasonal fujoshit.

Eva will outlast your own lifespan.
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>>153341850
>You can literally tell who never argued about homo before nowadays. I bet you don't know people denied even fucking No.6 when it aired.
Holy shit, this. Part of why I fucking hate this thread and others like it. It's so painful to watch.
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This threads sucks
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>>153342214
The moment you accept these two characters are gay and have feeling for each others it cannot be "bait".

"Will they or not" is not bait, it's a normal romantic development. I'm so tired of the bait work.

You think Eva fans would understand this.
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>>153342089
I probably shouldn't have used the word homolust. Maybe obvious homo not subtext would be a better name for it.
>and so subtle the male fanbase didn't care and the fujo fanbase did.
That's the keyword, subtlety. Both YoI and Eva threw it under a bus. Sure people like to troll but deep down everyone agree Shinji wanted Kaoru's dick and that Baldfat fucked offscreen and are now engaged.
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>>153342185
Only Anno said that, and that's because he confessed to him being his "shadow"; the psychological part of ourselves that we aren't supposed to completely "get".

Versus 100% human Victor who is perceived as an alien because none of the staff understand him. We know nothing about his background or motivation. Not even why he skates.
These should be fundamental things since he is a main character.
Even a minor 10 minute character like Kaworu was given such things.
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>>153342229
>Eva will outlast your own lifespan.
Why would that bother me? I don't hate Eva, I even like Manga Kaworu.
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>>153342273
The why are you here?
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>>153341799
>A character dying doesn't erase what happened
It does for hetfags and the general audience who DON'T want to see this character on screen.

For them, it's basically a blessing.
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>>153342386
>Maybe obvious homo not subtext
No mecha Anime had this before Eva. At least involving the MC.

>Baldfat fucked offscreen and are now engaged.
I like YoI and I want Baldfat to be canon just as much as the next guy, but Kubo no homoing shit is not doing it any favors.

>>153342420
>I even like Manga Kaworu
Shit taste, Karl is for plebs. Animeworu forever.
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>>153342486
And yet these hetfags are so paranoid about Kaworu they start sperging out as soon as his name is mentioned.

They know it's gay themselves, but they'll never admit it. Just seeing a picture of them starts giving them the gay panic, join any Eva thread and it's fucking obvious.

They've been trying to convince themselves otherwise for 20 years, and it hasn't been working to well.
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>>153342621
And I may add it's the same with YoI.
Anons get triggered just seeing the threads in the catalog.
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>>153342537
>Kubo no homoing shit
I don't know why everyone keeps saying this, but no matter what she said
1) she's japanese, they go to great length not to offend anyone and I wouldn't put it past her to no homo stuff for this reason alone regardless of how she feels
2) death of the author, her work speaks for itself, no amount of no homoing can make tribalism or a dick in a toned butt less gay, it's the same for yoi.
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>>153342486
This, otaku/waifufags don't give a shit especially when Shinji ended up with Asuka on that beach, Kaworu dead. They're convinced it's a het end and nothing can change them.
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>>153342420
>I even like Manga Kaworu
Liking manga but not anime Kaworu is a reliable indicator of shit taste.
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>>153342621
People sperg about and get gay panic about YoI constantly too.
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>>153342621
>And yet these hetfags are so paranoid about Kaworu they start sperging out as soon as his name is mentioned.
It's no different than what people do for Yuri on Ice.

> join any Eva thread and it's fucking obvious.

I'm someone who argued Shinji and Kaworu were gay for years in the dawn of the Internet, I don't need. What's happening with YoI is LITERALLY the same thing, people either ignore shitons of scenes or twist them to no-homo them. Frantically it's even more hard to deny Victor and Yuuri for me because of the enormous amount of screen-time they have and the focus on men Eros, but that's a thing apparently.

Seeking the creator approval when a show points at one thing it's idiotic, people did the same thing with No.6 in which there was an on screen kiss. It just really shows that people have bias for these things more than anything.
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>>153342847
This
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>>153342824
>otaku/waifufags don't give a shit
Oh, but they do. They give a massive shit.

Shinji choking Asuka and her calling him disgusting wasn't exactly something that satisfied them.
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>>153342877
Not to the same extent

It only started getting hate due to the Crunchyroll awards.
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>>153342789
>>153342908
Yuri on Ice has a 100% fujo audience.
The famous ice skaters all accepted and encouraged the homo.

And she still no homos it. It makes no sense. Going out of her way to do that instead of saying nothing doesn't benefit her in any way.
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>>153343035
Nope, there will still hate about "fujos taking over the industry" and "eww nips are pandering to homos now". People's hype just drowned some of it out but it was there and they still shitposted threads constantly
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>>153342984
>Shinji choking Asuka and her calling him disgusting wasn't exactly something that satisfied them.
Hardly. Waifu fags will find a way, and it's not like Anno hasn't encouraged them with the spin-off and Rebuild.

Heck, see stuff like Retake. Asuka being alive basically validates their feeling.

I know how Otaku mind work by now. If he wanted to piss off Otaku he should have made her pregnant and get married to Kanji or some shit.
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>>153342984
Nope. I don't know if you're a newfag to Eva or what. You must have not seen how they interpret that whole scene.
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>>153343117
I've been in the generals since the beginning, there hasn't been much shitposting from others
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>>153343100
>And she still no homos it. It makes no sense.
She also said they were soul mates, true love, that she wanted to write a story about two men instead of a man and a woman, that YoI world doesn't have homophobia. She based Victor on two gay men

Also that's not no-homo. Yuri and Victor still huge fags.
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>>153342386
>Baldfat fucked offscreen and are now engaged.

Kubo clarified that isn't the case at all. Especially the latter.
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