why is sex so rare in anime ?

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It's a kinda touchy subject, which many people don't know how to handle, and more people still don't want to show publicly.

Not to mention heavily implications usually work better than raw and all showing demonstration of the actual acts.

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>>153275545
Because Japanese people don't have sex

>>153275545

Because most anime are about children.

>>153275661
Nana was good with kisses / sex. I don't like the tongue and saliva kissing that's used in Kuzu Honkai.

>>153275690
Rip island of nips

Because most romance anime ends before the relationship gets that far

Also because at a certain point you'd just be watching hentai

>>153275690
Why is it graphed as per woman instead of per capita?

Unless the abundance of women is exactly 0.5 then the birth rate of 2/woman is not correct as a replacement replacement rate.

because like most Japanese and people on this board the perspective is that sex is taboo, women don't like it, and people are suupper embarrassed for being attracted to other men/women in the first place

for some reason wanting to bang a 13 y/o is accepted though

>>153275661
>Not to mention heavily implications usually work better than raw and all showing demonstration of the actual acts.
I agree, but even implications are very rare. I think I've seen implied sex only once in an anime (Nodame Cantabile), ignoring the "fast forward to the married couple with child" trope.

>>153275545
Because I could just watch porn instead, and it's not even like you can't find porn with interesting stories. Who the fuck would pay for non-porn sex? Nobody would, which is why nobody bothers with it.

>>153275984
Just think about it. In an ideal situation, a woman and her husband have 2 kids so that they replace them and the population remains the same so unless a woman is having 2 or more kids they are lowering the population in the long run.

Because otakus don't want to see an anime character having more sexual life than themselves

>>153276096
There was some pretty heavy handed implication in ai yori aoshi

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>>153275545
Because anime is targeted at manchildren and they prefer to believe the disney version of love.
I'm a manchild by the way.
Please no bully desu.

>>153275545
Because Japan is a nation full of purityfags. Idols and actresses cant even date without worrying about it ruining their careers.

I love this anime, it makes me feel bad but i enjoy it

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>>153276096
>I think I've seen implied sex only once in an anime (Nodame Cantabile), ignoring the "fast forward to the married couple with child" trope.
Genshiken of all things had pretty awesome, almost out of the blue implied and confirmed scene for one of the pairings.

>>153275690
>low birth rate means no sex
>>153275545
There are a lot of stuff that deals with sex, but it's typically shoujo stuff for some reason.

>>153276164
Self-aware weebs were a mistake.

>>153275690
Japan could stay at 1.3 fertility rate for 150 years and their population density would still be higher than USA's current population density.

>>153275545
because thats hentai

Tsuiokuhen has one that's pretty central to the plot.

>>153276355
no shit, America has more land than the island Japan is on.

>>153276399
And huge parts of America are just empty deserts too.

>>153275690
What happnened in Japan in 1975?

>>153276415
Japan has inhabitable mountain ranges instead.

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>>153276465
Not anywhere near the amount of empty desert in America. For comparison, Japan is just slightly smaller than California.

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>>153275984
Unless you have selective abortion/infanticide of one gender or the other, you'll have about 101-102 women to men. So per woman is just about a modified per capita. However, as you can have one man to many women, but not many men to one woman, breaking it down by the limiting factor (women) makes more sense.

>>153275545
Because sex scenes will cause the anime to be aired later (if it will even be aired at all).
Never wonder why you don't see tentacle hentai anime at lunch time on TV? same thing.

>>153275545
Because the main audience don't want them?

I sure as fuck don't. Sex scenes are depressing when you don't have sex on a regular basis. If I want sex scenes I go watch a hentai, I watch anime for stories to escape my horrible reality, not to be reminded of it.

>>153276449
Uchuu Senkan Yamato made anime wildly popular

>>153276449
Dog of Flanders

>>153276549
Also sex scenes are usually poorly written and awkwardly out of place. It's the same in books.

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>>153276449

>>153276449
People born in the 50s were old enough to make babies.

>>153276595
Japan also went through massive reform at that time thanks to being nuked twice.

>>153276480
>still pretty good
No.

>>153276670
>honey I'd love to fuck, but the nukes..

>>153275690
Should we nuke Japan again?

>>153276711
It's good. What's bad about it?

>>153276711
It's good, if only for the fact that it Really Makes You Think™.

>>153276742
It's retarded melodrama smut. What do you think is good about it?

Only casual redditors who think "sex = mature and new" think it's good.

>>153276812
It could've been good.
Then it became retarded melodrama smut.

>>153276812
I'm not saying it's a masterpiece but it's a good romance with good characters and a fresh story. Much better than all the moeshit this season

>>153276812
It's new and fresh because it touches topics that are basically non-existant in anime.

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>>153276856
>a good romance with good characters and a fresh story

>>153275545
It can be awkward to write about, and often is awkward for the viewers. Then there's purityfags, like me, though my purityfaggotry comes from a different place than most. I just don't like to imagine my favorite characters having sex. It's gross, like imagining your parents doing it.

>>153276859
Your new is showing.

>>153275545
sex? what is that?

>>153276905
It is good indeed, sorry you're so jaded you can't enjoy anything anymore

>>153275545
The same reason why Sunday morning cartoons don't have them.

>>153277071
Everyone is in church and no one will be there to watch it?

Virgin otakus don't like their waifus being impure

>>153275545

Money, anime is a saleable product. Sex scenes will bump it to late night slot or make it hentai (if explicit). Since most anime is targeted to a specific late night audience who react to 'their favourite character' having random sexual relations, they shy away from depicting it (and adapting products that won't include it). The obvious reason of the lack of sex for shounen (and other children's demographics) is the time period it airs in (morning/evening). Even comedies in the US (of the same timeslot) that have 'sex scenes' use fade to black or a clear 'post sex' kind of innuendo.

It's not like there's no sex in anime, it's just far between. I do hate how romance series rarely touch on it, or reach that stage of a relationship. It's just a sales thing, how many people are going to buy Kuzu no Honkai compared to a safer and tamer romance? I don't think there's a specific law forebidding teen sex, it just doesn't seem to sell well as an anime, even though there's hundreds of VNs and manga with teen/highschool sex.

Still the inclusion of a sex scene needs to make sense, easier to imply (what most series do) than to show. Develop the characters outside of the sex scenes and only include it if there's a specific reason to do so (like in Kuzu no Honkai, it's important to the plot and characters). Other wise treat it like any other mundane scene, do we need to know every time a character has a shit, shower, eats etc?

>>153276449
The master

>>153276521
>Some unknown Anime.
Most interesting part of that clip.

>>153277332
>Sex scenes will bump it to late night slot
Implied ones shouldn't.

It's something so mundane that it doesn't warrant the screen time. Much like there's no reason for an anime to depict someone taking a shit unless they have a serious case of diarrhea (so serious, that it affects the plot), there's no reason for an anime to depict a couple screwing unless one of them has rape trauma or something.

The only reason why sex scenes (and gross, extended kissing scenes) are considered to be "expected" and "necessary" in western media is that normalfags find it titillating.

>>153278143
Anime does not even get implied sex most of the time. So there's that.

Reminding your fans that they will never ever is not a good idea

>>153278361
This is the thing that gets me. So much anime seems to exist in this strange world where the emotional denouement of a romance is "DAISUKI."

It's why I find Kuzu no Honkai interesting, because they act like actual (teenage) people with desires who are capable of acting on them, for better or worse.

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Because a female having sex means she is not pure, and otaku feed the industry by holding exeptionally high standards of purity on their beloved waifus. Any other questions you don't want to hear the answer of?

>>153278598
Fucker does not realize that selling them would hurt the publisher more in the long run.

>>153278598
What happened there? Did one of the girls fuck?

>>153278627
this is an example of the very worst kind of otakus, you know.

He's not interested in the publishers and business. He wanted to "hurt" the characters themselves for "betraying" him.

>>153276355

Problem is with an aging population, their workforce would dwindle until they start abolishing the retirement age and have everyone work til they die of old age.

>>153278657
The main girl becomes a dark skinned fuck machine sex goddess that goes around fucking anything that moves.
And it was pretty much the intent of the author to spite purity faggots, so that picture probably only served to make him hard.

>>153278657
It was revealed Nagi had a "boyfriend" in the past, which caused everyone to drop this like the piece of shit it was. Zange best girl.

>>153278666
As if they care if a single book is destroyed.

>ib4 Burn your newspaper because something you don't like happened.

Hmm. I realize this borders on Book burning. Interesting. Next escalation step would be a dead Author, Illustrator, Editor, Publisher, ...

They can feel lucky that their audience is antisocial.

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>>153275545

>anime
>depicting anything maturely

>>153278738
>As if they care if a single book is destroyed.

Since you obviously weren't around when this occurred, the backlash was so harsh she literally put the manga on hold indefinitely and pretended to be bedridden. I wouldn't be surprised if she got death threats because of it too.

>>153278666
Wasn't there another case where this love live voice actor was exposed as formerly being a porn star and fans being divided over her? Some were against her while others supported her.

>>153278814
I meant the characters.

Manga is not on-hold?
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=3217

Anime is aimed at children and manchildren. Neither want anime about the consequences of sexual relationships or anything close.

Manga has more of that kind of stuff.

>>153278838
It happened like a decade ago.

>>153275545
>hundreds of hentai under the sun
>"so rare"

>>153275545
Because it breaks the conditioning of moeshit you virgins love.

>>153278831
That doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.
Purity otaku are just a vocal minority, but they spend shit tonnes of money buying 50 copies of the same album, so publishers don't want to upset them.

Remember when they threw that double penetration scene into that Junji Ito anime with the walking fish? What was up with that?

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>>153278865
>a decade ago

Just end me.

fertility rates are going down in the USA and other first world countries as well. china too, even with the one child policy's removal. immigration keeps a population strong (dont share this it is secret information)

>>153278934
This was it, apparently it was all hype http://sgcafe.com/2016/04/emi-nitta-not-one-viral-adult-video-according-agency/

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>>153278598
why do people keep pretending that a heroine having sex with the protagonist is the same as a heroine having sex with someone not the protagonist? do they really not realize the difference or do they know and post lies anyway because they want to look down on people?

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>>153275545
The Tsukhime anime and manga are the only Type-Moon adaptions that include sex scenes rather than censoring or removing them

>>153279014
They want the character to remain pure for themselves. Hell they even drop real life idols who are caught having lovers

Does it matter? Western media have too many unecessary explicit sex, it adds nothing.

>>153279014

When did anyone pretend otherwise? You're really misunderstanding the foundations of certain genres that this relates to. WA2 is a love triangle, and the MC is a self-insert; it's also one of the few shows where best girl wins so nobody gets mad. When you start adding girls to become a harem you are creating subdivisions within the fanbase, and once it gets to this point the only way to reach a peaceful resolution is to maintain the status quo. I don't really know why you're being such a passive aggressive little cunt so it might be better if you just fucked off entirely and watch more anime.

>>153279043
except literally no one ever got mad at the sex scene in white album 2, and people are practically begging for sex scenes in shitty light novels like dxd. you're conflating two clearly different ideas, either because you're misinformed because you read a stupid shitkaku complex article or because you're intentionally trying to make people look down on anime otaku.

What's the point of a character having sex? It adds literally nothing to the story or any of the characters and only serves to restrict the target demographic and reduce sales.

>muh mature shows for mature people such as myself
>muh manime

>>153279157
i always fast forwarded it in visual novels but all it did was animate it.

>>153279157
I think it depends on the setting as it can show character development between two characters if executed properly. I just wish some harem protagonists would at least fuck one of the girls and stop trying to be some sort of purity fag who will only have sex once they are married or something

>>153275545
Kimochi warui

>>153279156
>except literally no one ever got mad at the sex scene in white album 2

Maybe you should actually know what the fuck you're talking about before spouting shit like this. Since you're a huge fan of anecdotes, watch Kizu no Honkai, read the threads, then kill yourself.

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>>153279157
>i'm a manchild who gets triggered by mature and realistic themes in my anime
Keep projecting, dude. You'll have sex some day.

>>153279194
>I just wish some harem protagonists would at least fuck one of the girls

No fuck you I'm still mad about shuffle

>>153278725
>>153278737

I recall the uproar but even after that the series just disappeared. She was a god after all, she could have been hundreds or thousands of years old. Not like MC-kun was the first human to summon her (or carve her from wood) or something.

>>153279040
Well some of the sex is plot related rather than just fanservice

>>153279156
Just imagine the fucking shitshow that would go down if Issei fucked ONE girl from DxD.

"Why didn't muh waifu get picked"
"That whore"
"Etc. etc."

>>153279238
>the series just disappeared

I think that was the point being made in that example.

>>153279242
the sex scenes between sakura and shirou are vital the plot and they were replaced with bloodsucking. they also toned down shinji raping sakura to him beating her.

>>153275690
Oy vey, looks like Japan needs some immigration

>>153279014

Previous boyfriend/husband/fuckbuddy shouldn't make purityfags foam at the mouth, particularly if the character is in their teens or older, they've got to be masturbating by that age (or do purityfags also deny that aspect of humans?). I can understand if characters actively cheat, manipulate or lie about relationships, but other wise after a certain age you just expect certain stages to have been reached.

>>153279250
Didn't he fuck Rias at one point or was that just in my doujins?

>>153279273

Bonus is that blood is just another suitable medium for magic rituals in reality and the settings. Just fits well given the 'no onscreen sex' rule (which is still fucking retarded).

>>153279299
Just in your doujins.
He hasn't fucked ANYONE in the (main) LN series at the moment.

But from the DxD BoRN or wtf adaptation that came after, we know that Issei shagged the whole lot and got plenty of children.

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>>153279282
Look you faggot. Anime is not real life, it should not be real life. It should not be anything even close to what reality is like. It is escapism where all the girls are perfect and pure.

>>153279118
>When did anyone pretend otherwise?
how about in the post I was replying to? people are constantly trying to imply that fans burning their kannagi volumes or breaking their kakyusei 2 discs means that heroines aren't allowed to have sex ever. I don't know why you bring up harems since fans are constantly complaining that characters like the retard from infinite stratos act like they're allergic to pussy.

>>153279204
you're the one who doesn't know what you're talking about retard

>>153279250
he off-page fucked all of them if you go by the spinoff novels.

>>153275690
They should take in migrants from the third world and watch their shitty birth rates soar, like the krauts.

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>>153275545
>why is it that there aren't any anime that depict sex scenes maturely
The same reason it doesn't depict anything else maturely. Anime is immature as fuck and made to cater to developmentally stunted socially retarded individuals. Like us.

>>153279337
Yeah, pointed it out in >>153279324
But alas, in the MAIN LN adaption, none has been fucked yet.

>>153279156

Well I know /a/ wants sex in series like DxD (and other harems/romance), but lolPublishers. It makes a bit more sense in those series because characters are all horny and clearly are interested in each other, there's just no other way to interpret it. They'd need to introduce additional characters to 'steal' a girl away to cause rage. I would also say that battle harems don't really draw the purity clique, as heavily as a SoL/romcom/idolshit with clear (or no) pairing would. Simply different people are interested in the content from the onset.

>>153279339
Delete this comment

>>153279337
>I don't know why you bring up harems since fans are constantly complaining that characters like the retard from infinite stratos act like they're allergic to pussy.

At this point I'm convinced you're just trolling. The faggots wanting on-screen sex for this shit are horny retarded teenagers like yourself who can't figure out how to get past the panda. MC-kun having sex in any of this is detrimental to sales, and studios know this. It is literally as simple as this. I don't give a fuck what you want and neither do the producers, they do what is best for business, which is literally the question of this thread. Fucking off yourself.

>>153279329

I can do nothing but laugh at that sort of outlook. It's just a hilarious point of view to have.

>>153279383
keep up wth the thread shit for brains. it's detrimental for sales because it would change the age bracket they can sell it to. it has literally nothing to do with fans not wanting the heroines to have sex like some posters imply.

>>153279282
Shit like this makes me want to kill yourself

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>>153277816
>some unknown anime
Literally 5 minutes of internet wizardry.

>>153279426
Yes, fans don't want the heroines to have sex. Why the fuck would anyone want their waifu to have sex with someone? Holy fuck you're dumb as a brick.

>>153277816
It's Chitoge from Nisekoi S2.
Fucking go watch it.

>>153279426
How about you don't ask questions you won't ever accept the answer to? Maybe you should try reddit instead if you wanted everyone to agree with you.

>>153279157

>character/relationship development
Virgin sex, awkwardness between one or both parties. Demonstrates they were not just flirting/teasing. Fetish aspect that to clue you into things about a character or plot.
>plot development (if not rape)
Cheating. Something is revealed about a character during the sex scene itself (visual information, scar, tats etc), either through talking, be it blurting out a name (or wrong name). Obvious example is the Eva one with Kaiji.

There's more, but you do need to have the sex scene not JUST be generic sex. It has to give NEW information and not just be yet another time this couple are fucking.

>>153279487

And if the producers don't want to add this because it's completely meaningless to the story to add in fucking NTR shit for no reason, then they shouldn't have to. There are actually plenty of manga with all of this shit you want in it, go look for it.

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>>153279238
The series disappeared because the author had a stroke and it had to be put on hiatus for years. It had nothing to do with shitposters on 2ch calling Nagi a slut.

>>153279448

But in series like DxD & StB etc we KNOW the MC fucks a large portion of his current harem. The authors demonstrate it with their fucking children showing up or stating in as their desired end goal of the series, that they can't put in because publisher.

Why would you read an ecchi battle harem and expect 'waifu' to end up 'pure' when they typically have single target sexuality for MC. These series often tend to have the girls be incredibly horny and basically molest or get get molested by the rest of the cast or MC. The same goes for most VNs, the girls are into MC, not you and anyone who reads them in that manner are completely deluded. Yes some VNs are written as 'faceless protagonist everyman', but those are sold AS PORN first and foremost, not as a story.

>>153279448
are you literally retarded? did you mom drink when she was pregnant with you? fans want heroines to have sex with the character the protagonist they identify with. they only flip out when it's revealed a character had sex with someone else.

>>153279474
are you a phone posting oxygen thief who didn't bother reading the reply chain or a yurofag who can barely understand english? the question was about whether fans care if heroines have sex or not, and the answer is undisputably not, as long as it's with the protagonist.

>>153275690
That's wrong though. The japanese have a lot of sex, just not children.
If they didn't have sex the thousands of love hotels in japan would be broke by now.

>>153276355
The problem isn't population density, it's the skewed age demographic. You'll have a disproportionate amount of retired people who don't want to fucking die and need to be supported by the working people.

It a horror for their economy. Let's hope robots and technology can fill a lot of these spots.

>>153279535

> completely meaningless to the story to add in fucking NTR shit for no reason

But then it would be part of the story to have cheating/NTR. This example doesn't make sense.

Mine was about that a sex scene can deliver information. Is it the only way that information can be delivered? No. But denying a characters sexuality in some series can be just as weird.

>>153278814
>the backlash was so harsh she literally put the manga on hold indefinitely and pretended to be bedridden.
>pretended
[citation needed]

>>153276521
That gif is to good.

>>153276449
Economic boom.

By 1960 Japan was the second largest economy. The people who grew up in the 60's are the people who would've started to have children in ~1975
Prosperity is one of the biggest killer or fertility rates. Same story here in the west.

Because most anime characters are underage and that's frown upon.

>>153279439
How.

>>153279473
Done. Months ago.

>>153275545
I think kisses are lewd enough

>>153279590

Outside the context of cheating (a reasonable thing to hate a character/person for) or lying ("you're my first love", but not really), why is previous sexual relationship so infuriating to these people?

>>153279580
They can't even imply sex?

What a load of bullshit.

>>153275984
Imagine an island, 100 women and 1 man. You'd still be able to make 100 babies every year.
Now imagine it in reverse, 100 men and single women. Only one baby every 9 months.

men are much more expendable than women.

>>153279853
>>153277816
Lad, everyone who has seen Nisekoi instantly recognized this and I never even finished watching it.

Mirai Nikki.

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>>153279997
>implying yandere still exists

>>153275545
BECAUSE THEY ARE NO WESTERN DEGENERATES WHO NEEDS SEX SCENES LITERALLY EVERYWHERE

GO WATCH HENTAI, PORN, OR FILTHY WESTERN DEGENERATED MEDIA.

>>153280083
This. This is something I like about anime

>>153280083
I agree that softcore porn in western media is highly excessive. Not that it's bad to depict sex categorically, but it's obviously splattered everywhere for marketing reasons. Because consumers are plebs.

>>153275545
Because the anime fandom is full of virgins SO BITTER that they'll come to fucking hate characters they once liked if they manage to lose their own virginities, seeing imaginary characters as competition, somehow.

Sad.

>>153280083
>Japs are not degenerates
Made me laugh. They're probably bigger degenerates than the west.

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There's just no escape is there?
Unless

>>153279959
Then he would not have needed to look for it.

I also wonder about "everyone".

>>153280142
Degenerates can not value not degeneration, because they can't even recognise it.

Japanese are even afraid of indirect kissu, means they are super pure.
Westerners are like bunnys fucking around everywhere and don't even want to bring children to the world because it's a hassle.

>>153279873
it's perceived as lying if it's never mentioned and then it's suddenly revealed later. if a heroine is introduced as a non-virgin slut then it's not a surprise so no one can get mand.

>>153279590
They don't want them to have sex at all, because they want them to stay pure. The maximum that can be accepted is, when she marries someone the fan can approve as a good not filthy person who truly loves her and has stayed pure himself.
If they have implied (fade to black) not filthy sex after marriage, it may be acceptable.

>>153280537
>they
I am "they" and I disagree.

>>153275545
>be me at 14
>get the brand new karekano box set for bday
>watch a few eps with the family
>wait till everyone's sound asleep
>jump to the episode with the sex scene
>find out it was removed entirely during the localization process
now in my 30s and this is still a very bitter memory to me

>>153279731
Good post.

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>>153280083
This.

And anyway, innocence is a feeling that everyone personally misses, why ruin it with unnecessary """"mature adult scenes""""?

>>153280808
For Kids?!

>>153281052

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

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>>153275545
>rare

Have you forgotten already?

>>153283155
Was there penetration or just humping? That girl seems to have leggings or tights still on.

>>153283579
>having sex with the leggings or pantyhose off

you're doing it wrong

>>153275690
>Japanese people dont have sex
>Children born per women
>Its still above one
>One
Nigga do you not know how children are made

>>153283622
But that would block both orifices.

>>153277332
>Sex scenes will bump it to late night slot
Unless your show markets toys or has a broad audience (Conan, Sazae-san, Space Brothers), most anime only air at night anyway. AT-X is an exception, but they're a premium channel for otaku.

>>153283700
You can tear/roll them down.

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>>153283700
That's the best part.

Functions as condom.

Can be torn during apart during play, leading her to getting new ones that excite you later as well.

>>153283155
what's that from?

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>>153280083
>WESTERN DEGENERATED MEDIA.
sorry to break it to you, but westerners actually prefer violence and death, and they frown at the thought of even a pair of tits showing on TV, because a lot of them are bible thumping Christians, so they're prude as fuck. "bukkake" is a Japanese word, btw..

>>153275545
Sluts get stitches

Only women and normalfag men are interested in this trash, but they smelled the blood with Yuri on Ice and other fujoshit that has been selling and went for the kill.

Can't say I'm too happy but if I ignore it maybe it will go away.

Birth rates are low in Japan because 2D girls can't get pregnant.

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>>153275690
>that declining japanese fertility rate
It's because the men are too busy getting married to their drawn underage white girls, and the women are too busy going to the zoo to stare at gorillas

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/26/asia/handsome-gorilla-shabani/

>>153283768

I'm pretty sure it's Valvrave the Liberator Season 1.

>>153284258

I already regret giving you sauce.

>>153284299
no problem

>>153276060
Do /a/ fags really think women don't like sex? I've never run into that. They like sex with the right person. For men sex is about "how am I doing? Does this feel good for her? This feels nice for me but is it right? Is my dick too small? She's not making as much noise as others/porn... am I hurting her? Is this boring? She's not looking at me. Can she tell I'm nervous etc" and with women it's usually "oh god I'm naked oh god he can see this tiny scar from when I was four, oh no I missed a spot on my leg while shaving, my feet are a little rough gotta watch where I put them, do I look stupid? I'll just keep my eyes closed and pretend to be a porn star, is my hair falling correctly? Etc" but for the most part I think people like to get laid regardless of some weird thoughts.

But with the right person that goes away, for the most part - the trust is there. You both know what you like/what you look like while not your best.

I'd like to see an anime explore intimacy on this level desu, a comfortable relationship.

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>>153284299
You ruined his life, you asshole.

Because most people not interested , it's rarely add anything to the plot most of the time and before anything anime is mostly for the whose are age between 10-18

the sex is also touchy issue like some anon said people have various people opinion on it it effect the saels and stuff and most people don't like to write about it

hentai exiset for reasons

>>153284299
>mecha
why would i even watch that

If I wanted to see a sex scene, I would watch hentai. If I wanted some action, I would watch shonen. If I need to fill in the empty void of my soul due to crippling loneliness which I do every once in a while, I would watch CGDGT or SoL.

>>153284405

get out normalfag

if you want to see sex in anime go watch hentai , if you want to see actual sex go to porn site , why would you want sex in actual series ?

There few animes here and there have sex scenes but really if it happen too often it's non different than hentai

>>153275545
A: because it's not appropriate for the demographic being targeted by a given series

B: because it rarely looks good. Most viewers suspend disbelief to some extent when watching animation because they see it as an imperfect imitation of live-action. When the humanoid shapes break down into intimate mingling, many people have a hard time staying "in" the idea that these are people being depicted and not just a strange abstract collections of colour and shape swirling in some vaguely erotic act.

Note that part of the reason anime (and western animation) tends to have characters in bright, high-contrast costumes where each part of their body is highlighted by a different colour scheme is because animation works much better for the majority of viewers if the characters are presented as humanoid shapes with expressive faces, as opposed to representing actual humans. This is part of the reason the sailor uniform has been so ubiquitous as to be a cliche, it's a good colour scheme for animation. Only more dedicated fans tend to watch so generously that they don't need these sorts of abstraction cues in order to keep the flow of motion in their head, because they make the leap from "representation of person -> person" readily.

>>153279277
They might have to at some point since no mentally stable white person would ever willingly move to Japan. Japan is a beautiful country with a beautiful culture, but holy shit is it pointless to move there as a white guy. Youll be treated like trash for first couple decades, will hardly be able to find a wife because most Asians think that you will go back home at some point, the work ethnics are pants on head retarded and you actually earn less more money for more time invested. Unless you love Japanese culture more than your own life there is literally no reason to ever leave the west. Be bitch and moan and whine, but holy shit do we live in paradise, especially most Europeans. The amount of time we have to be ourselves is unrivaled. You can spend countless hours on hobbies, self improvement, relationships, have more rights than anyone else on the planet while also having social systems that will always assure that you can live a comfortable life.

Japan has virtually nothing to offer compared to the west, particularly the Germanic nations like Austria, Switzerland and Germany or countries like Canada or Australia who, for very good reason, fill the top15 list of cities with the highest standard of living for a reason.

>>153275545
Blame the purityfags.

They ruin everything.

>>153284832
>will hardly be able to find a wife because most Asians think that you will go back home at some point.

>Not going there for a couple of years, finding a wife, and taking her back to North America to live in "paradise."

I'm sure there's quite a few girls willing to have a better life in North America at such a cost. That's how my uncle got married to some Russian chick.

>>153276236

Confirmed scene for one, but Saki occasionally talks about how she's doing it with Kousaka. And the manga heavily implies Sasahara and Ogiue do it right when they get together, so...

>>153284832
>will hardly be able to find a wife
Funny, every person I've known who's visited Japan came back with a wife.
I don't think your own bad experiences describe everybody. There's lots of stereotypes about ignorant, arrogant euros who visit there, especially for short-term teaching gigs, and cry from culture shock because they learn that they have to live among another culture and the ground they walk on isn't worshiped. Sounds like you fit the bill.

>>153275545
>he thinks realistic sex looks as delicate and pure as tv anime or as ridiculous as hentai

>>153284979
>I'm sure there's quite a few girls willing to have a better life in North America at such a cost. That's how my uncle got married to some Russian chick.

Not a lot of Japanese people seem to have that mentality of seeing the developed west as a better place to live. Sure they want to visit America and Europe, but most Japanese people I know seem to have no desire to move to another country unless its a temporary thing for study or a short work contract.

It's Japan not the Philippines.

But anyway, I think that dude is on crack. They don't treat white people like crap in Japan. They treat white people who are fat and can't speak any Japanese like crap. As a foreigner you can be a celebrity if you have the right personality, attitude, not being fat etc etc. But he was right about the working culture. That shit will keep most people away.

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>>153284479
Then explain this.

>>153285014
>and cry from culture shock because they learn that they have to live among another culture and the ground they walk on isn't worshiped
Your reading comprehension skills are on the level of a grade school student. I didnt even talk about immigrating yourself. I simply pointed out that there is no reason to move to Japan unless you love the culture. Youre forced to work more for less, you have less time for yourself, you are treated like an outsider, there is less social security and so on. This is not about "being accepted" or "immigrating into society", its about weighing pros and cons. Japans only upside is its culture. So if that isnt top priority for you (which it never is for most potential migrants) then you have no logical reason to move there.

>>153279731
>Same story here in the west.
So why is France birthrate so high ? And i'm not talking about immigrants, just frenchs

>>153285112
What happened in Japan that's got you all upset there big guy?
Wanna talk about it a bit?

>>153280140
This.

Some people need to either re-evaluate their life or learn to keep their insecurities to themselves.

Preferably both.

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Because all Japan does is fap to their fucking waifus and fantasying what sex is really like.

Then when they finally have sex it's nothing like they imagined at all.
The idea of fapping to their waifus and buying all those retarded artificial pussy things sounds way better than to experience true sex again.

This is becoming a thing in the West too.

This VR thing is only gonna make it worse when it becomes a common thing.

>>153285065
Well from all the stories and blogs I've read about people working in Japan, they treat you politely. But they basically will never treat you as one of their own. You are pretty much the eternal outsider.

One example I read was there was this guy who had been playing in this casual basketball group for like half a year. One week he got an email saying "hey, we got two foreigners coming this week."

He expected there to be two new people coming that week, but only one showed up. He was the second foreigner even tho he'd played with them for half a year.

>>153285580
If you're on /a/, you should be well used to being treated like an eternal outsider

>>153275545
Because anime is for children, and the Japanese aren't okay will selling sex to kids.

Why the fuck does everyone ALWAYS complain about a lack of sex scenes, what's wrong with it just being implied or inferred from the situation? The reason you don't see it isn't because purityfags object to the actual concept of sex, it's because it doesn't fit when the characters have only just clarified their romantic feelings for one another around the last episode/chapters of the story. There has never been a shitstorm over two characters in a relationship fucking.

Complaining about stories not showing the actual "in a relationship" phase is one thing, complaining just because you can't see them fucking each other just comes across as degenerate.

>>153285350
>you're going to buy our 600$ BDs and you're going to like them

>>153285417
>This VR thing is only gonna make it worse when it becomes a common thing.
VR isn't becoming a common thing any time soon, it's bulky/expensive for the average users which means it will remain expensive and relegated to few fields unless somebody manages to make really good software that makes it worth.

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>>153285644
> Selling sex to kids
In a few years they will literally have nothing to worry about.

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>>153275545
>Newfag plebbitor thinking sex is rare in anime
>Doesn't even watch enough sex-related series
>He doesn't know this is common on WN, LN's and manga
>Thinking a poorly made doujin story is """"""""""""""""mature"""""""""""""""""

I bet you're one of the countless Cucklovers in this thread that think Kuzu no shitkai is a masterpiece.

Pathetic.

>>153275661
Fucking fuck off Hachiko you worthless piece of human garbage

Sex really isn't even that rare in anime, it's depicted all the time in shows. Go read Berserk or something.

The only genre it's rare in is romance, and that's because people mostly want to watch a genuine and innocent style of romance. There also aren't a lot of episodes for most shows, and most of them don't last that long, so they focus on the lead up rather than the conclusion.

That's the reason you come across as stupid and degenerate for crying about sex scenes in these kind of shows. The characters barely know each other and you want them to immediately start banging.

>>153286217
Well romance as a genre is very deliberately as far from the reality of romance is possible.
Romance manga vary between the extremes of "will they won't they, but they never actually do" and "SEX SEX SEX ALL THE TIME ALWAYS SEX SEX"

Romance anime typically just adapts the former because you lose most of the latter's appeal if you censor it for tv.

>>153284622

But sex even in cop procedurals is common. You spend a season or half a season getting the main couple (or a couple) together, then you have the 'fade to black' or other methods of implied sex dotted throughout the series, Bones is an example. The relationship isn't the main focus of the series, it's just one 'humanizing' part of the characterization.

Now these series are typically 45min X 20 episode seasons, so a 1 minute nod of drinks/chat leading to sex isn't a big waste of time like it could be in an anime (given the shorter time allotted).

What I'm getting at is that sex or sexual interest is something is standard and expected behaviour of humans, you can mitigate the issue by having the series take place over a very short period of time, thus sex really is pointless. But for anything that tries to come across as a romance/drama implying or alluding to their interest or having sex is desirable or you wind up with the 12 episodes of tease and maybe a kiss. I'm not saying you need a full 15 minutes of onscreen sex, that's typically labeled as porn and cycles back to 'will new or useful information be gained from showing the sex', instead of just implying they fucked in a 10 second scene.

School days did the teen sex thing well, there was a reason for everyone's actions, but it didn't need to waste time on the sex itself. I can't recall the name of every 'the OC' like US teen drama, but I do feel they waste time on sex scenes. It's basically softcore porn.

>>153278725
That makes me curious, how did otaku respond to Panty and Stocking?

>>153286470
The art style was offputting to them so it wasn't very popular in Japan. There wasn't any backlash over the depiction of sex and promiscuity, though.

>>153286459

Which leads into another issue. If you just wanted softcore porn, you'd watch porn, hentai or an ecchi series. So yes in the end, wasting the few precious minutes on actually depicting, rather than implying the sex is a waste. But having characters be sexually active when it makes sense for them to be, is more useful than everyone being incredibly prudish and repressed, as if teens or adults are never horny. Some ecchi type series obviously excluded from this, they are a whole other issue, which again is more softcore porn that never fucking delivers.

>>153286217

West has different expectations. Sometimes you want the characters to be having one night stands, then get attached to that one they liked a few nights ago. Show that they have an active sex life and eventually settle. Many romance series are the slow lead up, the probing each other for months before anything sexual happens. Sure these people exist, but it's not everyone's experience, nor is it what everyone actually wants to happen for a relationship to develop.

>>153275545

Most anime can't even animate a good kiss properly, let alone sex.

>>153286789
Yes? There's nothing wrong with any of that. There's also nothing wrong with the Eastern values though, and that's why people get pissy when everyone starts clamouring for a change towards Western values, and downplaying Eastern values as unrealistic and stupid.

The media is going to trend towards one mindset or the other, that's natural. I don't complain about Western focused media focusing on Western values, so why do people complain about that shit when it comes to Eastern media?

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>>153287202
>animators are kissless virgins

Yea, that sounds about right.

>>153286789
Actually, most romcoms in the west anymore begin with the one-night stand. It's the new "boy meets girl." They go through the whole falling in love paces and circling closer to lead up to the romantic payoff after "meeting" through a no-commitment sexual encounter.

Romcom tropes change by generation to reflect idealizations about "normal" and 'special" that shift with the culture. Gen X and Y stuff is full of glorifications of hookup culture, aging singles living in lavish apartments because they passed their 20s unmarried but gainfully employed, fraught relationships with boomer parents and women being insecure over "does he respect me/is he a womanizer" because it was playing with social issues of the time. Millennial ones have been playing up alpha/beta dynamics, focusing on gender politics and always include at least one "second option" who's irrelevant other than to be a point of comparison for the love interest. It'll probably continue to evolve as time goes on.

>>153279157
>What's the point of a character having sex?

It does add to the story if done right, it's a good way to move a relationship forward, in cases like WA2 it's a good pay off to all the pent up emotions the characters have had to suffer through.

>>153280233
Really makes you think with the immigration and race mixing that's rampant these days.

>>153287449
Millennials are the one night stand and fuck buddy type. New generation will be more conservative imo

Japan doesn't hate sex, they just have a different mindset regarding it. The vast majority of stories don't involve the couple having sex because there's not enough time to cover it in a way that makes sense with that mindset, and it usually doesn't add much to the story anyway.

>>153288136

It does if you do it right though.

>>153275545
>smut manga
fuck off

>>153288180
It does if the build up is there, which is hard for shows to do when they have around 18 minutes per episode, 12-13 episodes total, and want to do that build up.

>>153288132
Hookups were a zeitgeist for gen Y in particular because the social movements they were born into were a climate very conducive to that sort of lifestyle. You had tonnes of tonnes of well-educated young people concentrated in downtown city centers living a cleaned-up version of the wild nightlife where their lives began friday after work. The whole one-night-stand culture you see depicted in movies is an idealization of that kind of lifestyle.

Millennial hookups are a more transparent ritual involving things like tindr where there's absolutely 0 pretext, and consequently even less emotional investment. That's part of why newer romance fiction backs away from the idea of hookups and instead focuses on questions of authenticity. You see a lot of things like "is this real" or "what makes this special" being asked as characters, as though they recognize they're inside a fantasy depiction of a relationship that doesn't exist in the real world, and are trying to understand what makes that relationship fantastical compared to a "swipe"-style hookup.

It's actually really neat mapping the differences in how these things were made in the 30's vs the 60's vs the 90's vs now.

>>153280808
the "sex scene" was just some abstract animated shapes though. Even the manga had the sex off-panel, and only referred to obliquely from then on.

Because the majority of adults who would be the appropriate audience for anime that shows sex are meek, stunted children who want pure waifus who are sexual experts despite the virginity they've been saving for the either blank slate or unlikable-but-still-beloved-by-everyone MC.

I know nostalgiafagging is stupid, but I'd give anything to get some of the brazen sexuality and happy sluttiness some female characters had in the 80s.

>>153276236

I still love Genshiken but I especially loved it when it wasn't a weird harem manga centered around Madarame. It showed that for the most part it takes hard work and lots of missteps but even the most socially awkward people can form relationships.

Now it takes little work, all missteps, and a dose of self-pity to make every female MC and one MC who wants to be the little girl all fall in love with you

>>153289060
It's an unfortunate reality. Entertainment is a product, and the more valuable of a product it is (the more money it makes, the more popular it is) the less original and unique it's forced to become and the more general and broad its appeal is made. There's no reason to not appeal to as many consumers as possible so long as the possibility is there.

>>153288397
great post. I think our generation is more into consume people as a product to give them pleasure/fulfillment. Those social apps make this even more modern because you can just say things to people using chat and audio instead of face to face.

>>153279282
>equating fuckbuddy to masturbation
and shitting in your mouth is the same as eating bread that was fertilized with cow manure?

>>153291002
>comparing fuckbuddy to masturbation is the same as comparing eating shit with eating bread

>using a false equivalency to shit on someone else's false equivalency

>>153288132
>Millennials are the one night stand and fuck buddy type.

Is that really what normals think?

>>153275545
Because they are pretty prude.
Because just shovi g tits in your face all the time is meaningless anyway.
Because good writing doesn't always requiere sex scens to make the point.

Parasyte had a semi-sex scene so it does happen.

>>153291108
that just shows how wrong it is

>>153284583
>normies reeeee
kys

>>153275545
because sex is degenerate and evil and has to be controlled. It's one of the most evil parts of human nature alongside jealousy and anger

Has anyone gave a BJ yet in Kuzu?

>>153278719
>workforce
Everything gets mechanized either way.

>>153293124
Exactly. Give it 20 years and there will be unknowns amounts of unemployment. Populations shrinking are in the interest of us, however they arent in the interest of kikes because they need more people to pay for all the nations debts.

>>153293316

But he's not wrong.

i would actully like my waifu to have sex with someone thats not me.
i could care less if she lost her v-card or not, sex is something HUMANS like to do and it would make her more human and more fun if she had sex with someone else.

>>153294085
NTRfiggot detected

>>153283754
>Functions as condom.
I hope nobody actually believes this.

>>153275545
>arn't any
Eva to name one of the top of my head.

>>153287401
something something pandering

>>153285142
>So why is France birthrate so high ?

Niggers.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/09/the-africanization-of-france-medical-data-suggests-one-third-french-births-are-non-white/

>>153284583
Been here ten years and married someone who's been here longer. This site isn't a sekrit klub and never has been, eventually you'll have to get over it.


Go crawl back under a rock.

>>153284622
It's about building intimacy of a relationship. Hentai is hardly ever realistic about the way sex happens, or what it does to people.

I Love my Little Sister, though it's incest, does a good job showing what sex can do to people. It's like a whole new dimension of a relationship to explore.

I don't think OP meant explicit fucking, but sex scenes that are realistic and tasteful.

>>153284037
That's retard-

damn that gorilla is really fucking handsome.

>>153276521
send that fucking 3dpd packing

damn right get that noise outta here

there's lots of sex in japan

problem is 90% of japanese semen ends up everywhere except inside the vagina

>>153288132
Oh you have no idea. Millennials are bad, I believe their average age of virginity loss was 16(?) and their average partner count was 5 per year, but the new gen is worse. I know some say they lean conservative, but in all of my run ins with these kids I have my doubts. I've been asked, "I'm 11 and haven't had sex yet, is this normal? All of my bffs have bae's! I can't find one." Or "yeah I'm 9 but my gf and I have oral a lot," it's very startling. Try volunteering at schools, babysitting or just looking through forums dedicated to teens. It can be jarring to see. I'll hold my suspicions as just that until stats come out, it would be interesting to see if this "we're conservative," meme is just spread by contrarians. It was rebellious for millenaials to be super liberal, and now that it's the norm it seems like it's now rebellious to be conservative.

Conservatism may make a come back, but it may be liberal by our standards... that's all I'm saying.

>>153296795
>It was rebellious for millennial to be super liberal.

Yes, and then they grew up and became conservatives or pink haired SJWs that hate their own race if they are white.

>>153296795
they only lean conservative when it comes to immigration and nationalism in my opinion. Everything related to sex is continuing to swing as left as humanly possible. Public sex is probably next.

I watch anime because at least anime is somewhat conservatively designed

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>>153297084
why is /pol/ the board that is the most easily identified compared to others?
We need a global rule for you

>>153275545
because the viewer cant relate

>>153275690
Please kill yourself, kike

>>153275545
There are many. Fuck off.

>>153275690
>implying lack of pregnancies = lack of sex
If anything it means birth control and condoms are popular.

>>153278831
It was found to be a different women who looked similar to her.