3x3 Thread
Rate others
>>153268643
10/10
>>153268643
Quite generic taste.
Young male, I assume.
I'm bored of these threads
>>153268643
8/8
I've only seen Code Geass, Titan, and FMA Brotherhood so I can't comment on OP's 3x3 on a whole, all of which are somewhat good though
o/ hello friends
>>153268643
Normie: Taste Edition
4/8
-1 Re:zero, Spacey Dandy, Attack on titan, Code Geass
>>153268795
1/2
-1 Mirai Nikki
Redheads
>>153268897
1/9
>>153268643
0/9
>>153269001
3/9
>>153269132
0/4
>>153268643
Is there a website where people make these?
>>153269811
There is.
>>153269812
:^)
>>153269811
https://bighugelabs.com/mosaic.php
>>153268643
You need to watch a lot more anime.
>>153268897
You might need to watch more anime.
>>153269153
What the fuck am I looking at.
>>153268643
8/9 -snk
>>153268795
0/1
>>153268897
3/4 +sunshine
>>153269001
3/3
>>153269132
3/4
>>153269153
2/2 literally what tier
>>153269762
4/4
>>153270013
You might need to watch more anime.
>>153269762
3/9 (Saki, FMA, NNB)
>>153270013
>You might need to watch more anime.
Tfw 400 shows completed
>>153270262
>sub 2000
Pathetic.
>>153270123
>Shigofumi
nice
>>153270446
Yup, really underrated gem of its time along with Kyouran Kazoku Nikki. Fuck Code Geass R2.
>>153270446
It's not that great imo.
The first two episodes are pretty nice, and that video game developer was pretty cool, but everything else keeps going downwards as you keep watching. I'm somewhat pissed that it had a really simple and cool premise of ''Kino giving letters from the afterlife'' but had to just throw it all away by focusing too much on the main girl. You're not supposed to immediately focus on her. Just like Kino, you get a small portion of her personality through her interactions with others, and only when you're near the end do you get more information, or get a flashback.
By the end, all I felt was a somewhat disappointing 'meh'.
Also, kinda fucked up with >>153270389
>>153270123
-0.5 Shigofumi.
>>153270729
Almost everyone on /a/ hated the main plot, but I found it to be pretty interesting. Fumika's backstory had a parallelism to the theme of the show as her parents had a divorce, and their marriage was just for a show because Fumika's mom just wanted to taste what womanhood feels like. They really didn't care her at all, which lead her to commit suicide. In the end, she just wanted to be loved and lived a normal life. Also the fact that I can relate to it (having a dysfunctional family and mildly bullied at school) made me care more.
>>153268897
3/9 are good enough for top of all time contention, others are all just pretty good
>>153269762
That's a lot of gay
>>153268795
It's beyond me how anyone can think of Mirai Nikki as anything but hot garbage.
>>153271243
I think when a show takes a big turn after an episode or two you're always going to get people angry that it didn't go how they expected.
>>153270446
I sometimes wonder if the author wanted to make his own kino, had a pretty cool concept but didn't really have any interesting individual alone stories.
>>153271243
I didn't really hate the main plot but I don't think it should've been the focus so soon and stayed the main focus. It just left me somewhat disappointed for what it could've been more than what it was.
>>153268643
>>153271270
Do us all a favor and refer to this >>153269921
>>153269153
what shows are these? I am interested but have no idea what I am looking at.
>>153268643
>Anime starter pack for kids/YA
Jesus fuck. How can you like Space Dandy but not have Bebop or Champloo even though they do the same thing but better and more consistent in quality from episode to episode? And why do you have flavour of the month like Re:Zero? Why the fuck do you have SnK when is worse than the manga? Same thing with SG, worse than the VN. Baccano is fucking doing a mini arc at the end of the first arc, it only adapted a part of a long running seires you numbnuts. FMA disney edition, you should be hanged. Code Geass, and Gintama + Bartender is the only pass you get.
You actually made me mad.
>>153271409
00:08 (Yutaro Kubo), Wonder (Mirai Mizue), My Milk Cup Cow (Yantong Zhu), I'm here (Yukie Nakauchi), Fashion (Yoji Kuri), Zdravstvuite (Yoko Yuki)
>>153269001
Top spot intentionally left blank, or am I missing something here?
>>153268643
>Baccano, Re Zero and attack on tittan
Disqualified.
>>153268795
>Mirai Nikki and Angel's Egg
Disqualified.
>>153268897
>Spice and wolf, Monogatari and Clannad
Disqualified.
>>153269001
GitS movie is meh, but the rest of your choices are pretty patrician so I will let it pass.
Qualified.
>>153269153
>Hyouka
Disqualified.
>>153269762
>Flip fappers
>Brotherhood instead of 2003
Disqualified.
>>153270123
>All this mediocrity
Disqualified.
>>153270389
>5cm
Disqualified.
>>153271270
>Hyouka
Disqualified.
>>153271345
>Pyscho Pass
Disqualified.
>>153271439
Some small missteps, but patrician overall.
Qualified. Just get rid of Nahona and you are good to go.
>>153271727
>Liking 03 better
>MAH NIGG-
>Not liking Spice and Wolf
>Not liking 5cm
>Liking too much moe garbage
Almost good taste. Almost.
>>153271727
>Mirai Nikki and Angel's Egg
Angel's Egg was not on that
>>153271727
>his brain isn't developed enough to like hyouka
>>153271727
Your existence should be disqualified
>>153271727
>your taste
Disqualified.
>>153271889
Not him but Hyouka is pretty trash. Pretty much no emotional payoff.
>>153271727
>S&W, Monogatari and Hyouka
>Disqualified
Disqualified
>>153271727
>Just get rid of Nahona and you are good to go.
Thanks anyway o great and wise anon
maybe?
>>153271727
>Doesn't like Nanoha
>Likes Yuki Yuna
Gross
>>153271476
>Baccano is fucking doing a mini arc at the end of the first arc, it only adapted a part of a long running seires you numbnuts
That doesn't stop it being good. There is no more material unless you want to deal with terribly translated light novels.
>>153272221
>No more material
>Translated LNs are bad
Fucking read them as they are then? My point is, there is not enough for one to feel invested in the characters if you just go by the anime. Also the back and forth shit they did so that it resembled something a western director would make, is a big fucking no. They never did that in the LNs.
Also:
>Immortality is pretty good
Kid logic
>>153272344
I tried to read the first one, the translation had no effort put into it and clearly only existed to sell volumes to westerners.
Taking the anime as separate to the LNs (which is what you should do with any adaptation of anything), it was fine.
>>153272420
>Fine
I can accept that is was alright watch. But we are talking about putting it as one of your favourite top 9 anime show ever.
>>153272479
That's reasonable because it was pretty good, hence why so many people like it
>>153272615
>Jojo
>Boku generic Hero
>Basic moe
Close but no cig.
>>153272525
Anime is quite the terrible medium if there are not enough shows to bump Baccano out of a top nine position. And reading the conversation. No, a goddamn adaptation should not be judged solely for it´s quality, it should be judged for everything. No exception. Adaptation should aim to better than the source.
>>153272945
>Anime is quite the terrible medium
what did he mean by this?
>>153273462
Delete this imposter.
>>153272945
Anime is literally the most diverse AV medium in existence you absolute donut.
>>153271476
I laughed pretty hard at this. Thanks man.
>>153268643
2/2
>>153269153
2/2
>>153271270
2/2
>>153271439
2/2
>>153272615
4/4
>>153268897
4/4
Someone help my cure my taste
>>153269153
Trying way too hard mate.
>>153273689
4/5
-1 for Lucky Star
>>153269153
faggot.
>>153271345
genuine/10
>>153271345
Digi bro??????
>>153270389
I'm still waiting for you in hell my friend.
Throw away your useless soul and become a demon. Join me in the hell of mahjong.
>>153271345
>>153274476
this stopped being funny about 30 threads ago
>>153269153
>>153273462
>>153274180
These ones are good.
>>153275135
1/5
>>153268643
2/7
>>153268897
4/7
>>153269001
6/6
>>153269762
6/7
>>153270389
4/4
>>153271270
3/4
>>153271439
5/6
>>153272615
5/7
>>153273462
3/6
>>153273689
2/6
>>153275135
7/8
>>153275155
2/3
>>153268643
you ruin it with gintama
>>153268643
3/7
>>153268795
1/2
>>153268897
2/3
>>153269001
1/3
>>153269132
morg/3
>>153269153
"i dont enjoy anime"/0
>>153269762
2/3
>>153270123
0/Aria
>>153270389
Manga 2/2
Anime monster/2
>>153271270
0/Zeta
>>153271345
2/3
>>153271439
cgdct
>>153271889
it's not like you need a brain for kyoani works
>>153272615
5/6
>>153273462
3/3
>>153273689
0/2
>>153274180
0/FLCL
>>153274476
0/GitS
>>153275135
0/2
>>153275155
joe/2
>>153275292
0/Aria
>>153275513
I'm always shocked that plebs like you even know how to find /a/
>>153275513
1/8
>>153275683
lol ok
>>153275683
Triggered homo. Back to your containment thread/board
>>153275713
Wait, I'm triggered?
>>153275513
>3988x3988
>>153272615
>Nichijou, Mob and Jojo
Disqualified.
>>153273462
>Speed racer and DBZ
Disqualified.
>>153273689
>LWA, Lucky star, Monogatari, Tamako
Disqualified.
>>153274180
>FLCL and GaP
Disqualified.
>>153275135
>Flip fappers, NGNL
Disqualified.
>>153275155
>FLCL, Ashita
Disqualified.
>>153275292
>Shoujo shit
You almost made it, anon. Too bad. Disqualified.
>>153275513
>Gintama, HxH, Jojo
Disqualified.
>>153276087
>Disqualified
Oh thank goodness, I was genuinely worried you might actually like mine.
>>153276099
No need to put a tough act to impress me, anon. I am sure you will make it next time.
>>153276087
You can't disqualify me. Your a shit.
>>153276139
Not if I'm lucky
>>153276087
post urz
0/9 for all
>>153276319
>Using my 3x3
Why?
>>153276348
>>153276319
Why are you pretending to be me?
>>153276309
c o o l
>>153276319
not bad... kid
>>153276087
Why did you change your silly posting style and stop role playing a robot?
I haven't watched mirai nikki in years because i know it is shit and don't want my opinion on it to change
Haven't seen mirai nikki in years, because i know it's shit but i don't want my love for it to change
>>153274476
7/7
>>153273689
5/7
>>153268643
5/8
>>153275292
7/7
>>153275513
6/6
Camputer u baka
>>153277530
>Mirai Nikki
Disqualified.
>>153277708
>Re:zero
Disqualified.
COME AT ME, PLEBS
>>153271727
Wait, you think Symphogeah and Haifuri are patrician?
>>153280918
Chitanda is a slut, A SLUT
>>153274180
3/3
Also, what's the one in the top left?
>>153282635
You take that back!
>>153277758
Anime: 4/4
Manga: 3/3
>>153275513
3/3
>>153275292
5/5
>that Kataganari episode in the mid
Episode 4 if I recall correctly, it was the best one for me.
What's bottom right?
>>153275135
1.5/2 +- Paranoia Agent
>>153273689
2/2
>>153271270
1.5/2 +- Paranoia Agent
>>153270123
1/1
>>153269762
3/3
>>153286149
Accurate file name
>>153286149
I despise mosaics like these. Every category is just filled with entry level garbage. Your choices tell me nothing about what you like as a person. It's all so sterile and removed; unless of course you were going for that vibe, then kudos.
>>153288168
Why don't you show me that mosaic of yours from one medium which has so developed and branched out taste?
>>153288199
What a boring response.
>>153275513
Here's a good example from this thread. His taste is obviously "bad", but even the most brain dead simpleton can infer things about his character. Your entire collage has no such charm.
>>153288479
>What a boring response.
Is this the best you can do to defend your so called "argument"?
>Here's a good example from this thread.
Not at all, his mosaic is similar to mine, except I have Kemono no Souja Erin and Giant Robo which are less usual than the other picks.
>but even the most brain dead simpleton can infer things about his character
Yes, he likes Shonen.
>Your entire collage has no such charm.
What charm? Do you maybe think that I put all those anime because I want to look educated or something? Those 9 are the ones I enjoyed the most (although Monster and Giant Robo are so-so, they'll be replaced probably), and I don't care if it doesn't have "charm" (whatever you wanted to say with this) or if you can't infer things about my character. What do you want me to do? Put 7 mecha anime on there so that you can say I love mecha and be satisfied or something? If anything, you can recommend me anime similar to the ones I have in my mosaic. This isn't supposed to be a dick waving contest, where we try to be as hipster as possible. Do you positively react to only two types of mosaics: those that are shit taste (like OPs), and those that have stuff you yourself can't recognize, like >>153269153
Or do I need to fill it with old stuff and add one modern (and maybe badly looked upon here) anime to protect myself from people screaming at me for being elitist? >>153268795 fits into this description, coincidentally.
>>153288875
>>153288479
By the way, here's a book mosaic, made for your liking. All of those I've read and wouldn't consider them for my top 9, but let's look as hipster-like as possible, by all means.
Do I get the validation I so crave now, o great one?
>>153288875
These threads only have three purposes:
1.Thinly veiled recommendations
2.Trying to stand out
3.Trying to fit in.
While it is admittedly hard to strike a perfect balance between the latter two your attempt is remarkably bad.
>>153289334
>Thinly veiled recommendations
Why not? It's always good to explore more of a medium.
>trying to stand out
>trying to fit in
This is nothing special, every group has these.
>your attempt is remarkably bad.
I didn't "attempt" anything, these are my 9 favorite anime, and I made it without fitting in or standing out in mind. Also good job on ignoring everything else I said and the mosaic I posted, you drooling fucking retard. This is the last reply you'll get from me, as I've been entertaing you way too much.
>>153289293
I think you're trying a little too hard a this point. The retard you're replying to never implied hipster=good.
>>153289552
>>153289625
>>>/out/
You samefagging faggot
>>153289408
1. In fact I am a different drooling retard so please excuse me if I claim your attention for a little longer.
2. I simply listed the reasons one posts in these threads as a matter of fact. I never suggested in any way that I disapprove of them otherwise I wouldn't be posting here. I can't imagine a reason someone would post their mosaic if they didn't want attention. There is nothing shameful about that.
Furthermore the fact that you made one of those autistic mosaics, have it a distinctive (although not very remarkable design), named it "my autism", got offended at being called "boring" and then suggested that you have a "developed and branched out" taste (I mean, really?) indicate that you do in fact want attention and believe you are a special person. I just don't understand why you'd try to deny it.
>>153286149
>What's bottom right?
Natsume Yuujinchou
8/8 btw
>>153289655
It's a shame you watched Little Buster instead of playing the VN.
>>153268795
>Mirai Nikki
Kys retard.
>>153289655
3/4
+GTO, HXH, S;G
-Fullmetal Alchemist
I've been trying to get into Fullmetal Alchemist, but the original series feels very dated and Brotherhood feels very rushed. I haven't finished either.
>>153280652
4/7
+GTO, ERABE, Zetsubou Sensei, Monogatari
-FMA, Binbougami, Humanity Has Declined
>>153280148
3/5
+Zetsubou, GTO, Monogatari
-Binbougami, Humanity
>>153279435
4/4
+HxH, Mob Psycho, Mushishi, Eva (Unless that picture you chose means that you prefer the rebuilds, in which case, -1)
>>153277708
5/6
+Jojo, FLCL, S;G, Re:0, Haganai
-Mirai Nikki
>>153292960
5/5
+GitS, Black Lagoon, Monogatari, KLK, Samurai Champloo
>Oban Star Racers
Man, I haven't seen that in years. You're going to get a lot of angry (You)'s.
>still using the outdated format
>>153293244
Get with the times gramps, bigger is better.
>>153293244
>>153294468
>not going retro
How does it feel to always be struggling behind the times?
>>153294821
Hello /mu/
>>153284645
Macross Plus.
>>153268643
4/6
>>153268897
1/5
>>153269762
3/6
>>153272615
3/5
>>153275135
1/3
>>153275513
sad/9
>>153276319
5/6
>>153292846
1/3
>>153296382
Sad.
>>153269153
So why did you put gibberish in the top and bottom rows and kioani trash in the middle?
>>153298471
>dissing kinoani
Please remove yourself from the vicinity.
>>153298741
masters of mass-manufactured moe archetypes
>>153288168
>Kaiji, TTG, LOGH, Ping Pong, NGE, Gankutsuou
>Entry level garbage
They may be entry level, but they are certainly not garbage.
>>153298909
Want to know how you can spot a crossboarder?
>>153298909
what mass manufactured moe archetype is this?
>>153298741
>>153298989
Not him but Kyoani is the very definition of polished mediocrity. When did they ever made a imaginative, unusual or creative work? When did they ever made something that wasn't generic highschool shit? Yeah, thought so.
>>153299165
Maid Dragon
>>153299038
haven't decided to waste my time watching that show just to diss on it yet so I wouldn't know. But can you point out a single Kyoani main character who isn't flawlessly cute? Like a single physical flaw that would be considered ugly? Probably not because they value that cuteness over flaws and human qualities. If a character has any flaws they are specifically engineered to invoke gap moe by making the flaw directly parallel to a major stereotypical feature of the character.
>>153299396
Can you name any lead female character that is unattractive?
>>153299208
The truth hurt, doesn't it?
>Clannad
highschool romance shit
>Haruhi
Highschool shit about girl with strong personality shaking the life of a cynical guy(so original)
>K-ON
highschool shit about 4 girls hanging out in a club
>Hyouka
higschool shit about girl shaking the life of a cynical guy, but hey, there's mystery this time!
>Chuunibyou
highschool shit about chuunis
>Hibike
highschool shit about girls in a music club. Again.
>>153276319
6/6
>>153277530
3/7
>>153277758
3/4
>>153279435
3/4
>>153286149
autism/10
anime: 4/5
movies:7/7
>>153289655
3/5
>>153292846
5/8
>>153292960
5/6
>>153299165
You clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.
>>153299460
Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>153299450
Anne Shirley
>>153299396
>Butt can you point out a single Kyoani main character who isn't flawlessly cute? Like a single physical flaw that would be considered ugly?
Clannad, Nagisa is literally a cockroach.
>>153299396
>Kyoani main character who isn't flawlessly cute? Like a single physical flaw that would be considered ugly? Probably not because they value that cuteness over flaws and human qualities
I would agree with you, but you fucked up saying physical flaw and not personality flaw. Anime characters are not meant to be ugly, they are meant to be appealing and attractive and it has been since forever.
>>153299543
Hilarious.
>>153299522
>>153299522
Amazing arguments, I'm totally and utterly defeated.
>>153299593
I know, I was just trying to prove a point. If I said personality flaw someone would write a 30 paragraph essay about how some K-On moeblob actually has a really deep personality or some shit. You can't argue with no physical flaws.
>>153299666
>would write a 30 paragraph essay about how some K-On moeblob actually has a really deep personality or some shit.
The saddest part is that this is true.
>>153299639
There's no point in arguing with a mental cripple.
I simply cannot be assed so here are some things I love:
Berserk
I am a Hero
Pluto
Takemitsu Zamurai
Oyasumi Punpun
One Piece
Azuma stuff
Araki stuff
ONE stuff
Whats the damage, fags?
>>153299723
I left out Junji Ito. How could I do such a thing?
>>153299666
>If I said personality flaw, someone who actualy paid attention would refute me with reasoning from the material in question, so I said a moot argument that nobody can argue with because it applies to literally every anime ever made.
Nice argument there, Einstein.
>>153299723
>>153299762
You are overwhelmingly average.
>>153299711
>doesn't provide any argument
>keeps replying and throwing insults around because he's butthurt
Keep going, anon. You're almost as cute as Kyoani characters.
>>153299814
I'm a rabid fan of everything I listed to I'm pretty eager to expand my horizons. Kind of hard to choose where to begin though, a lot of recent manga doesnt stand out to me.
>>153299777
>>153299396
>If a character has any flaws they are specifically engineered to invoke gap moe by making the flaw directly parallel to a major stereotypical feature of the character.
>>153298402
yeah
>>153299981
Moe is relative, if you don't find retards moe then it isn't moe and is simply a character flaw. You can find any complex character moe, it doesn't suddenly negate their flaws because you were attracted to them. This is just a stupid argument.
>>153299666
You don't get it, anon. Chitanda, Yui and Nagisa are complex and deeply flawed characters, their characteristics and personalities are meant to give more depth and to humanize them, not to make them more endearing and cute to the audience. Yes, that's why Chitanda is a dumb and innocent retard! It's because it makes her a flawed character and not because it makes her a appealing moeblob!
You simply don't get Kyoani masterpieces.
>>153299396
>haven't decided to waste my time watching that show just to diss on it yet so I wouldn't know.
Average, low powerlevel crossboarder, hasn't even watched the shit they're criticizing.
>>153300080
False Dichotomy and it's generally the case whenever people are trying to defend Kyoani characters.
>>153299954
It's fine, most people here don't really stand out. But they usually have a bias towards psychological/philosophical anime. You look like you have a small bias towards heavy action stuff.
As long as you keep reading you'll find more. Something that's much different from normal is gambling manga. Have you tried Kaiji?
>>153268643
Funny how little hate this got. Surely it's just 1 samefag autist in other threads bashing everyone who likes entertaining above average shows for not having a 3x3 comprised of pre 00's and 2deep4u animes.
>>153300097
Have you watched these shows? What exactly is dumb about Chitanda? How would you even describe her as a retard? Nagisa is also intentionally retarded, that's why she fails school and has to be held back a year, not sure why you wouldn't count that as a flaw.
How autistic do I have to be to legitimately enjoy creating 3x3's?
>>153300080
again, then why are their flaws always directly parallel to their major features? It's like they're designing DnD NPCs, not real people. "Hm let's give this one 12 strength, then 8 charisma to make up for that"
>>153300097
I'm 99% sure this is ironic but I can never tell because of Poe's Law.
>>153300138
I'm criticizing KyoAni, not Hibike.
>>153300312
At least a 6 on the spectrum.
>>153300235
Clearly you don't understand the term moe, it's not something concrete that you can assign to one character independent of any outside influence, it's literally your feelings on a character. Your generalization and strawman just makes you look retarded, people can like the interactions of the characters and what they bring to the show without finding them moe or even particularly liking them as an individual character, trying to generalize that anyone who points out a flaw in a character is somehow pointing out only flaws that they thought were cute is idiotic.
>>153300337
>then why are their flaws always directly parallel to their major features?
What the hell is this even supposed to mean? Are you asking why an idiot's flaws are tied to her being stupid? Or why a shy person's flaws tie into them being shy or not good with large crowds, etc? Are you denying people with these general personalities have such flaws? Please elaborate, because this just sounds retarded.
>>153300282
>Have you watched these shows?
Yes, I watched almost every Kyoani show, as I find them entertaining. However, to me claiming that their anime are anything but mediocre/decent is the sign that you have pleb, pedestrian taste.
>What exactly is dumb about Chitanda?
She's the typical endearing, moe characters that's supposed to make you fluffy inside. She always acts in overly innocent way about every matter, she doesn't know how to solve or deal with the most simple things, she acts like a curious kid, because again, that makes her more cute. She has no personality flaws unless you consider characteristics that are meant to make her more appealing to the audience as personality flaws.
And if you think that Chitanda doesn't act like a retard I don't know what to say, really.
> Nagisa is also intentionally retarded, that's why she fails school
Nope, nice job not even understanding the anime you like. She doesn't fail at school because she's dumb, she fails because she became sick and couldn't even go to school. Which by the way, is just a forced way to make her a tragic, fragile character and to make you feel sorry for her and feel bad when shedies
>>153300557
like I said with my DnD analogy. The design process on their characters is "let's give them one strong point and one weak point," it's less of a flaw and more just a part of their archetype. I just mean their characters are overtly simple and predictable. There are certainly worse characters but how much I see people defend them as being really good characters bugs me.
>>153300557
Prism is god tier
>>153300440
>Clearly you don't understand the term moe,
I know that's convenient for you to make things as ambiguous as possible, but let's be honest here, the important thing about moe as a term is its popular use. Language and terms are changed by how the majority uses them, they are basically defined by consensus. Yes, moe is a extremely subjective term, but the community has a pretty clear consensus on things that are considered overly moe and things that aren't. Like, almost everyone in the anime community agrees that the characters in K-ON, especially Yui, are moe.
Sometimes people will misuse or use it as a buzzword, but for example, pretty much everyone in the anime community agrees that Yui and Chitanda are moe, because their behavior and characteristics are the definition of what the community decided as being moe.
>>153300900
> Like, almost everyone in the anime community agrees that the characters in K-ON, especially Yui, are moe.
I thought I had deleted that part of the post. Oh well.
>>153300653
>However, to me claiming that their anime are anything but mediocre/decent is the sign that you have pleb, pedestrian taste.
To me, claiming that they are mediocre/decent is a sign you're a pleb as you're unable to appreciate visual storytelling and are looking at a visual medium as you would some sort of book rather than taking into account the things that are unique to the medium you're watching and lack any sort of appreciation for cinematography or animation.
>if you think that Chitanda doesn't act like a retard
She just acts like your average, outgoing girl to me. I've met similar girls who didn't even know basic shit like how there was segregation in the US until the 60's despite living in and learning about the country her whole life, a girl who likes mysteries and is curious to hear the solution to some that she couldn't solve herself is nowhere near retarded.
>Nope, nice job not even understanding the anime you like.
I don't like Clannad, I think the first season is overrated trash by kids who think cryporn is immune to criticism and only like parts of the second season as they delve into more adult life like raising a kid as a single parent, but ultimately find the ending unsatisfying and think many people forget the other half of the season that deals with retarded gang wars and the like. That being said, there's a point to her being retarded, she fails school and has to repeat a year and is an idiot because she is sickly and misses a lot of school. I didn't give a shit about her, but they make it a point that her idiocy is a flaw. As I said, you can only call this shit moe if you find it moe, I don't particularly find lazy retards cute, so saying these flaws aren't flaws because you thought they were cute or think that they intended for them to be cute is irrelevant as anyone who doesn't like these traits will not find them cute regardless of the creator's intent or your personal feelings.
Huh, that's weird, my 3x3 was deleted?
Not sure why, and I'm not banned.
>>153301107
>Bitter Virgin
muh nigga. i thought nobody on /a/ had read this.
>>153299723
>Berserk
Good.
>I am a Hero
Overrated and terribly shit.
>Pluto
Decent, though Monster is Urasawa's masterpiece. 20CB is shit.
>Takemitsu Zamurai
Good.
>Oyasumi Punpun
Meh.
>One Piece
Decent
>Azuma stuff
Decent.
>Araki stuff
Decent.
>ONE stuff
Alright
Overall, you have averate taste and I've seen worse.
>>153300728
>I just mean their characters are overtly simple and predictable.
Also known as consistency, if a character who was supposed to be stupid had a flaw that she would solve too many algorithmic equations in her head at once and knew the mysteries of the universe or some shit, that wouldn't exactly be consistent with their established character or setting. In fact, most would say that a character being fleshed out enough that you could speculate or deduce how they would react in other given situations was a sign of a good character, but I won't go as far as to say that. In fact you'll notice that I never said they were good characters, that was a complete assumption on your part, but saying they're somehow bad shows a complete lack of understanding or experience to actually see a character that is truly bad.
>>153301191
>someone else who has read and loves Bitter Virgin
Nice. That is so rare.
>>153301107
5/5 in books +1 for Grossman
Good taste mate
>>153301054
>as you're unable to appreciate visual storytelling
Visual direction, artwork and animation are all important aspects of anime and Kyoani excels at them all, I never denied that. But this isn't enough, as anime is a combination of plot, setting, characters, music, theme, animation and a bunch of other factors. Kyoani excels at the visual aspect, but fails at literally everything else, or better saying, it isn't that they fail at everything, it's just that they fail to stimulate you beyond any superficial level, which is actual intelligent and constructive discussion is almost non existent when it comes to their shows. They are fun, innocent and cute shows to kill time and make you feel fluffy inside, nothing more.
By the way, Kyoani may have nice visuals, but they sure play safe with their artwork. Can you show me any Kyoani anime that actually has inventive animation and artstyle, like say, Kill la Kill for example?
>a girl who likes mysteries and is curious to hear the solution to some that she couldn't solve herself is nowhere near retarded.
That's because you are talking about what she does and not how she does it. Being curious is normal, acting like Chitanda acts when she's curious isn't, she acts like that to again, be more moe and make you feel fluffy inside. For the 10000 time, Chitanda, Yui, Nagisa, Mikuro and so on, are idealized female characters, all their characteristics and flaws are there to make them more cute and endearing, this is a fact.
>I met similar people
No, you didn't. It's like saying you met a tsundere in real life, you may know someone who in some level, has a tsundere behavior, but I doubt you know anyone with textbook, stereotyped tsundere behavior, like in some anime. And I doubt that being a tsundere was the only defining thing about the person you met.
> As I said, you can only call this shit moe if you find it moe
See >>153300900
>>153301219
I do agree with you, but I have some slight objections. Consistency doesn't mean that the character should be simple. Predictability is expected in a character, but only after you've been with them for awhile, not from episode 1.
>>153301672
Just to ''edit'' my own post.
>By the way, Kyoani may have nice visuals, but they sure play safe with their artwork. Can you show me any Kyoani anime that actually has inventive animation and artstyle, like say, Kill la Kill for example?
I forgot about Nichijou when I made this point, which fits the criteria I asked.
>>153301672
>anime is a combination of plot, setting, characters, music, theme, animation and a bunch of other factors. Kyoani excels at the visual aspect, but fails at literally everything else
So what's wrong with these aspects in something like Hyouka? It excels in the visual department, as you said, its characters serve their purpose and tie into the theme of mundane mysteries which tie perfectly into their setting, giving you typical Sherlock mysteries like a sealed room murder and subverting it into a mundane, SoL setting. Your argument is basically the same is ThatAnimePleb that the story needs to be of some grand scale to be stimulating or touch on interesting themes, which is silly.
>actual intelligent and constructive discussion is almost non existent when it comes to their shows
Pic related this just happens to be a screenshot from a Hibike thread I had from another time. I'd say discussing character motivations fit your description pretty well, and the show had plenty of those sort of discussions as it aired. Hyouka did as well between shitposting of putting people to sleep. Haruhi generates some interesting discussions as well, but I'm not a fan of the series so I can't delve deeper into their discussions on the references and commentary.
>They are fun, innocent and cute shows to kill time and make you feel fluffy inside, nothing more.
This seriously makes me question if you've even seen what you're talking about, a number of their shows aren't focused on invoking such emotions. I especially wouldn't describe Hyouka in this manner, which has been the main show we've been discussing so far.
>Can you show me any Kyoani anime that actually has inventive animation and artstyle, like say, Kill la Kill for example?
Nichijou experiments a lot with its visuals and is easily one of the best animated TV series of the last few years.
>>153301672
>all their characteristics and flaws are there to make them more cute and endearing, this is a fact.
That would be factually incorrect if someone found said flaws to detract from their character, which is ironically what you're arguing with Chitanda and how she acts when she's curious.
>And I doubt that being a tsundere was the only defining thing about the person you met.
I didn't say I met a tsundere, I said I met an average, more outgoing girl and said that the girl in particular displayed traits far worse than Chitanda, who you're claiming is retarded. You're completely misconstruing what I said.
>See >>153300900
See pic related.
>>153302007
>I forgot about Nichijou when I made this point, which fits the criteria I asked.
Then to give a couple other examples, both Kyoukai no Kanata and Phantom World had more experimental animation present in them, though I hated both shows.
Where do i make this mosaic again
>>153303029
Read the thread friend.
>>153302227
>its characters serve their purpose
You could say that about almost any anime. It's a very vague and subjective statement that's hard to counter due to being extremely vague. It's like that every time someone actually tries to defend Kyoani, they bring the discussion to circular logic/arbitrary territory, saying things like ''flaws are subjective'' ''moe is subjective'' ''you can't say this for ceirtain'' ''the show was not meant to be like this'' ''the characters serve their purpose'', ''every show does this'', ''You can't say that real people don't act like this'' and so on. You have being doing it for quite some time, but I just decided to point it out now.
>ThatAnimePleb
I don't even know who that is, but I claimed nothing of the sort. Slices of life can be stimulating beyond superficial levels, like Aria and Sora no Woto are, episodic shows that don't have a amazing, detailed plot can be stimulating beyond a superficial level, like Mushishi, Cowboy Bebop or Kino no Tabi. Kyoani shows fail at that, not because of their genre or setting, but because they purposefully play as safe as possible in terns of tropes, settings, genres, themes and plots.
> I'd say discussing character motivations fit your description pretty well
People do that in literally every show. Go to 10 K-ON threads and 10 NGE threads and come to tell me the difference between the two.
>I especially wouldn't describe Hyouka in this manner
Hyouka isn't on the same level as K-ON, but like I said, the whole existence of Chitanda pretty much proves that the show is also abou this, which is good to me, because to me Chitanda made things slightly less boring in that anime.
>>153302414
>That would be factually incorrect if someone found said flaws to detract from their character
Again, bringing the discussion to circular logic territory. See, what I'm arguing and what I care about in this case is how the people making the anime tried to portray the characters, what were their intentions and so on. They made Chitanda to be cute, innocent and endering, her innocence and cluelessness is there to make her more appealing, that was the intention of the show, just like Light from Death Note was made to be a genius without morals, now if you disagree with those things and those characters do not convince you as such, that's another story and up to the person in question.
the ''flaws'' of Chitanda, Yui, Mugi and etc are used to make their character more appealing rather than to make them more flawed, that's my point.
>I didn't say I met a tsundere
Yeah, that's why it was a comparison to allude your point. I feel really sorry for you if you didn't understood what I meant with the tsundere post.
>This pic
It doesn't refute anything I said.
>>153302562
>h Kyoukai no Kanata
I wouldn't go as far as to call its animation and art style inventive, it's just different from what Kyoani is used to make. Didn't watch Phantom World, so I can't say tell.
>>153303179
I don't see a problem with anything you just pointed out, they're hard to counter because they're true, it has nothing to do with circular logic, you're just trying to bring some kind of objectivity and make broad, ""factual"" statements about art, which is inherently subjective. When your criticism isn't based on the show's own merits, you've already failed at whatever you set out to do.
>Kyoani shows fail at that
I like all the shows you listed and plenty of KyoAni works, but you haven't demonstrated why this was an apt comparison. What exactly about Aria wasn't playing it safe? That it took place on Mars? It's not as if that played a huge part in the show, it was mostly about finding the little treasures in everyday life, which often had them wandering the streets an landmarks of Neo Venezia and didn't really do anything particularly "risky", so I'm not sure why you're criticizing Kyoani for "playing it safe". Especially when comparing it to Mushishi and Cowboy Bebop, which are two completely different sort of shows from Aria, SnW, and K-On.
>Go to 10 K-ON threads and 10 NGE threads and come to tell me the difference between the two.
I'm well aware, I used to regular "What the fuck did I just watch" threads and often answered question and helped people understand the show and characters, but you're comparing one show to another while talking about an entire studio. As I pointed out, there has been plenty of constructive discussions in threads about plenty of KyoAni shows, your gripe seems to be with a single show which you're using to represent the entire studio. Nobody said K-On had a cast of deeply flawed and complex characters.
>>153303530
Why would I care about what you perceive to be the creator's intention? True or not, it's really irrelevant when it comes to criticizing a show. A work should be judged on its own merits before you get into the creator's intentions.
>Light from Death Note was made to be a genius without morals
He was also meant to be endearing. People wouldn't want to watch Death Note if it didn't have an appealing main character. That's typically the aim of every show, to make a character the audience will like. You can argue is megalomaniac flaws make him more endearing as well. As I said, it's subjective.
I understood perfectly what you were saying, but you misconstrued my point of generalizing an anime character to generalizing a real person. I merely pointed out shared traits in the two, I never claimed that I met somebody who was a carbon copy of Chitanda, so the whole tsundere strawman was irrelevant and doesn't actually address the point of the comparison, which was to show that your average person can be far dumber than anything Chintanda displayed in the show, so calling her retarded for being curious and outgoing is just silly.
>It doesn't refute anything I said.
Kawaii would be a more appropriate term for you if you basically just want a cool sounding Japanese word to describe something being more concretely cute. They use the term to describe things they feel no emotion toward just as you are, which is much more apt in this situation than a term specifically made around emotions.
>>153303731
>I don't see a problem with anything you just pointed out
it's pointless and doesn't actually refute anything, it just brings the discussion into a stalemate. For example, If I say that FLCL's plot is messy, convoluted and doesn't follow a clear line like most shows and you reply ''that's just what you thought about the show, someone else might think that the plot isn't convoluted'', this is circular logic and prevents the discussion from advancing because I cannot refute what you said, but what you said was pointless to begin with.
>Especially when comparing it to Mushishi and Cowboy Bebop,
Did you even read my post?
>episodic shows that don't have a amazing, detailed plot can be stimulating beyond a superficial level, like Mushishi,
I was taking about episodic shows without a detailed plot, replying to the statement you made saying that I think shows need a grand plot. I don't know if you do this own purpose or if you actually have a interpretation problem.
>so I'm not sure why you're criticizing Kyoani for "playing it safe"
See >>153299165
>but you're comparing one show to another while talking about an entire studio.
Except I just used it as comparison to make a point? Do you want me to use another show? I can use Tamako, Clannad, Haruhi, Hyouka, Nichijou, Chuuni etc, it will change nothing.
> As I pointed out, there has been plenty of constructive discussions in threads about plenty of KyoAni shows
And as I said, this proves nothing, as the pic you posted is just average discussion that happens in almost every thread about any show. Go to a Konosuba thread right now and you will see discussion about the characters. You are yet again, bringing things to subjective territory as of course, there's no way to prove for a matter of fact that Kyoani threads have simpler discussions compared to more complex shows, so you deny a obvious and well known thing, putting the discussion in a point where neither me nor you can prove anything.
>>153304024
>Why would I care about what you perceive to be the creator's intention?
Are you pretending to be dumb? If I make a character to be evil and without any redeemable qualities and then some autistic fag comes to me and say ''I don't think this character is bad, I actually think he's a good and relatable person!'', that would make said character good? Does that would make any difference? Nope, it's just the opinion of someone, the character was made to be evil, this is a fact, now what someone else thinks about the character is a total wild card. People can literally perceive a character as being anything, but that tells more about the person in question than about the character itself.
See what I said about circular logic.
I claim that a character is like that.
You claim that's just how I perceive the character.
I claim that's how the character was meant to be.
You claim that this doesn't matter, what matters is how you perceive the character.
The definition of pointless.
>He was also meant to be endearing.
Missing the point and again taking a simple example at face value. I'll not even bother with it.
>I never claimed that I met somebody who was a carbon copy of Chitanda
Yeah, you didn't get the point. See, Chitanda is completely defined by her innocent, curious and clueless personality, she being cute and innocent is basically her character, just as in the tsundere example, the tsundere is defined by being a tsundere. It's not a strawman, it's a comparison used to make a point.
Also, please, don't be autistic by trying to say Chitanda has more than being cute going on for her, because any tsundere also has that, the point is her character being almost completely defined by said trait, unlike a real person would be.
>>153304024
>Kawaii would be a more appropriate term for you if you basically just want a cool sounding Japanese word to describe something being more concretely cute.
As I said, what matters to me is how the consensus and community perceives the word, because that's how language works, by consensus. Chitanda, Mikuro, Mio, Yui, Mugi and Nagisa are all perceived as moe by the community consensus and that's what I was referring to.
>>153305376
>community consensus
Laughing Out Loud.
Maybe rate others if you want yours to be rated?
>>153308944
>Kuroshitsuji
Confirmed a tumbler fat whale.
>>153306855
>he doesn't think that a consensus on what is considered moe archetype exist
Good luck trying to correct people for the rest of your life, you will need it.
Like I said, language is defined by majority.
>>153309234
its not that bad.
>>153299396
>can you point out a single Kyoani main character who isn't flawlessly cute? Like a single physical flaw that would be considered ugly?
i don't get this
can you do this for every show in your 3x3? can you do it for ANY show in your 3x3?
animation characters, all over the world, are 90% of the time designed to be exceedingly appealing. this applies to kyoani cute girls as much as it does to pluto and daffy duck or even the fucking hedhehog from norstein
>>153313272
>animation characters, all over the world, are 90%
Anime is especially like that, which is a good thing.
>>153289655
2/4
>>153292846
7/9
>>153292960
3.5/6
>>153299491
6/6
>>153299780
5.5/8
>>153301917
3/4
>>153303024
2/5
Are these the most pretentious threads on /a/ ?
>>153315027
>thread about trying to show off how much of a special snowflake you are
Take a wild guess.
>>153308944
5/9
>>153303024
1/9
>>153314994
1/3
>>153268643
Shit
>>153271409
a bunch of experimental animation shorts
>>153268643
20 y/o white male
>>153268795
25 y/o white male with a pot belly
>>153268897
22 y/o asian female, A cup
>>153269001
pseudo-otaku hipster
>>153269153
actual otaku hipster
>>153269762
27 y/o white male whom just lost his job
>>153270123
18 y/o asian male
>>153271270
21 y/o black male
>>153271345
19 y/o asian-canadian male
>>153271439
21 y/o otaku female, D cup
>>153272615
underage b&
>>153273462
27 y/o white male pseudo-otaku, DJ's on the weekends
>>153321010
28 y/o neckbeard