Episode 79 summary
What the fuck? So I'm guessing the preview was misleading, and Goku's just basically going to gather everyone up the first half, and then get ready for the tournament via teleport and setting up team brackets the second? All for episode 78?
So that's where all the furries went. They fucked off to their own universe.
toriyama could just say they were removed after birth, just like jews with foreskin
Goku is really committed to this universal furry genocide
I miss Launch
She was one of my favorite DB girls to fap to
Would Vegeta stand for that? I suppose Bulma could have had Trunks de-tailed secretly. Vegeta was probably off training when he was born and she's a billionaire genius.
Not sure about Goten. Goku let Gohan keep his tail, but I guess that was before he learned about the ape transformation during his fight with Vegeta. And I guess he was dead when Goten was born. Chichi could have de-tailed him or had Bulma do it.
It wouldn't be a proper shounen otherwise
>The Furry Universe is the Universe that's going to be nuked to show everyone Zeno is serious
Also guys saying Goku is going to job (lol
Goku wins his match, which means if they need to have a 3rd match to break tie you know who the fuck IS jobbing
Was Nappa really that worse of a person compared to Vegeta?
Goku is based af. You nigs complained he was evil for pushing the tournament. Turns out he was just trying to get rid of furfags and make the multiverse great again.
So with this we can confirm that each individual still isn't showing fighters that are all from the same universe? Since at least the red wolf guy is a match in this shot that features Hit and Magetta from universe 6.
Why are two of them digitigrade and the other one plantigrade?
Why are two of them wearing boots and one of them not?
WHY DOES BASIL HAVE NO PANTS?
Also one of them from the intro is missing. Probably these 3 are token villains of Universe 9 and the smug one in the intro missing from this screenshot is the protagonist of Universe 9.
Still, I don't see why they wouldn't just do a smaller, 3 vs 3 team battle as a prelude to the 10 vs 10, rather than doing 3 1 vs 1 battles when that's not the format of the tournament.
Strongest is obviously this guy who isn't going to be appearing with the other 3 in the preliminaries.
Wait, are they fighting one vs one for a certain amount, or doing all ten at once? OP suggests the latter, but that'd be chaotic.
The only battle I've seen with a mass vs for Toriyama was the cell juniors vs Z fighters and RoF. But those were all goons.
Or am I forgetting any
But from a story telling perspective, isn't this better to introduce the audience to the idea of team battles by using a smaller number first before jumping to the massive 10 vs 10, as well as highlight any foreseeable problems universe 7 may have working together?
You're not the only one excited, anon
YIFF IN HELL FURFAGS
and also U7 is going to need a wall to keep all the undesirables out
anyone play dokkan battle?
rerolled until i got vegito blue and black rose, just got gogeta a few minutes ago
Piccolo gi>Turtle gi
I don't like furries but at least the wolf with the Scarf has a better design than:
>Frost (for being just Freeza with a different color palette)
>Every destruction god except for clown, Beerus, the elephant and that Brown girl.
>Better color palette than ayy Might.
>Tied with Hit.
Why doesn't Toriyama put the same effort as he does with Dragon Quest?
Seconded. Maybe a mix of the two would be nice. He looks way too much like Goku with the orange one, so at least the purple one would have been nice.
I'd also would have like a green gi since Tien has a completely different outfit now. Or go back to wearing some chinese outfits like he did as a kid.
>Letting them reproduce
>Not just destroying every last one of the remaining furries
Although that does bring up an interesting point, here is an idea, what if Ayy Lmao recruits the survivors of destroyed Universes? so for example Universe 6 is defeated so the LSSJ Girl is recruited by Ayy Lmao or Furry Universe is destroyed so Ayy Lmao recruits the Rabbit who seems to be from Beerus' race.
where does Kid Trunks outfit even come from?
Why is he even in a gi and not in something at least resembling a Saiyan outfit
Because Buu is a fight autist like Goku.
The only time he doesn't enjoy a fight is if he gets curb stomped too fast like with Beerus or if it's Kid Buu who was trying to murder Mr. Satan.
>Omni-King leans out of his seat as he watches Buu laugh despite being at a disadvantage
Fuck yes. Fuck whoever decided to put him back in the Turtle gi.
On that same point, fuck whoever thought it was a good idea to regress Goku and Vegeta to their "classic" outfits as well.
I agree Sayiaman would have been cool. But you thought the Green Tracksuit was awful? I thought it looked cool, he looks cool with the black glasses. If you wanted a unique style thats as unique as it gets. Shows more of his human/casual lifestyle that he lives compared to wearing some silly gi.
17 is just there to job and bring back nostalgia. I'd be hyped but he isn't gunna amount to anything.
I think were just excited to see how far gohan goes before he jobs eventually aswell.
They could at least turn him into Super Buu again. He just has to get really pissed off. With all the asspulls recently involving Trunks being able to make a Spirit Bomb with no prior training, and then being able to focus it into a blade, I would say Super Buu coming back doesn't seem too outside the realm of possibility.
Get the fuck out of here. Some gis are pretty ballin'.
>On that same point, fuck whoever thought it was a good idea to regress Goku and Vegeta to their "classic" outfits as well.
This holy fuck. Blue looks so fucking bad on those outfits.
Bring back the F clothes.
Daily reminder that Brollette is just Cabba in drag
Goku should be wearing a gi 24/7 that isn't the argument. I just think Gohan shouldn't be wearing a gi. He looks more cooler without it. Everyone has a fucking gi.
Like yamcha's outfit is pretty ballin.
Dropping the Resurrection F clothes to go back to their Cell Saga clothes was a stupid decision.
They look so much better in these outfits.
>is this the man >>153236860 that said is gonna kill me and my children
Characters I am excited for:
17, Smugpup, 18, Cabba, Any GoD who flips their shit and makes a move
Those characters from design just seem to have the most potential for having personalities. Well Cabba could fail in that department catastrophically depending on how writers handle him.
Everyone else not too fussed about
Cpt Ayyy Lmao as entertaining of a meme as he is doesn't seem like he'd have much of a personality.
People I'm not interested in:
Goku, 3 dumb looking furries
I think the gods in DBS are KINDA like entropy in the universe, tendency to move toward disorder ie destruction. To make it more simple ying to the yang. For the god of new beginnings/rebirth, god of destruction is a fitting name since in order to create there has to be destruction.
Nappa killed hundreds of earthlings
Vegeta didn't kill any.
Vegeta did kill some nameks, but no where near what friezas people did.
Basically Vegeta is a child soldier, that's grown up and eventually weaned himself off the violence.
>furries - 22 replies
humanoids are the next level beyond boring human analogies and the evolution of anikino.
toriyama has spoken. only the highest test of you will understand.
>tfw every one is sleeping on Vegeta
>implying Bra wont be his motivation to finally be the strongest
Daddy Vegeta will save universe 7 for Bra
>There's no way the retarded looking short one Lavender could be a protagonist.
Something something Toriyama's style something something.
>Bergamot maybe, but he's got a dumb stare and a slut tongue.
>buu is taking the red one(basil)
>goku the tall one
>gohan will probably job against this guy
>pink elephant with alcohol pun name
>not being related to pic related
Agreed. If not those, they should seriously give Goku his Blue gi from EoZ. The regular gi is dull as fuck.
Saiyaman (without cape and headgear) > Piccolo > Turtle >>> Track suit
Though... I'm thinking as a super saiyan. As Ultimate Gohan, I'd actually go
Turtle > Piccolo > Great Saiyaman >>> Track suit
>Shows more of his human/casual lifestyle that he lives compared to wearing some silly gi.
You sound like a faggot, which makes sense because you're praising another beta faggot's clothing.
Toriyama has been visiting some fucking expensive day spas in between all that drinking he did for DBS inspiration.
I like it
also dark blue saiyan uniform > blue saiyan uniform
According to herms u7 vs u9 fight is a preliminary to enter the real tournament but the loser of the preliminary still get its umiverse destroyed.
Well that means we wont be seeing 120 characters. Since the prelims is 3v3. Means its a tournament about 6 universes after each had his preliminaries. Toryiama laziness strikes again
manga colors >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anime colors
There's nothing wrong with the red sash, that was his original color anyways.
>People actually doubting Toriyama's furries
Come on, kids
>furry universe is the first one losing
I dont think this means they are going to be destroyed this soon, theres another one in the intro thats not part of the 4 showed there.
Nah, I think Gohan is going to be embarrassing in the Tournament of Power but its quite clear that Episode 79 is going to be a one or two episode deal where Universe 7 steam rolls Universe 9 one after the other and then Zeno will erase Universe 9, which I would presume would be uploaded on Godtube so the other Universes view Universe 7 as some sort of horrifying threat on a Multiverse level of Destruction.
Will our boy Champa make it through the preliminary?
>Nor has that fucker won a major fight all series.
>Lost against Beerus
>Lost against Frieza
>Lost against Frost
>Would have lost against Hit, if he hadn't thrown the match
>Lost against Zamasu/Black multiple times
>Killed by Hit, then fought him to a standstill
Anyway, I think this arc is going the Bleach/One Piece route, where every character is going to be matched up against their own opponents, and given their own time to shine.
>Vegeta didn't kill any
I'd like to think that this is a calculated move by Vegeta so Goku would fight him seriously and because he knew that those poor sods could be revived anyway
Purple and orange looks million times better because orange is Goku's color and purple is Piccolo's, like an homenage of his two masters and father figures
Also those aren't the original colors (sash still red, though)
He's not black, he's just a saiyan!
it was nappa who suggested that they breed a bunch of half earthlings to replicate gohan's strength. and i'm not sure he had dinner and a movie in mind to start off the wooing process.
but i'd say they cared equally about non-saiyans back in the day.
Are you retarded? That's from Artificial Humans Arc, not Saiyan Arc. Gohan clothes changed from green to purple and green again (and orange when he chose use his father gi)
Beerus, Clown, Elephant, Dwarf, Robot and Cleopatra will be the 6 universes to proceed.
That's still strange though, since we see the other GoDs. So they probably won't be destroyed immediately, or maybe the Kais, Angel and GoDs will be spared. Otherwise why bother designing them?
Still, even with this, it's 60 fighters, taking bets on which universes make it through. I bet it will be 1, 3, 6, 7, 10, 12. It will turn out that Captain Ayy is from universe 12 and the GoD of that universe is the guy that invented Time Travel.
i mean, it happened (i believe it was during a conversation in their space pods before they landed on Earth). but no one can say he wouldn't have been gentlemanly about the breeding.
>All these batshit characters for the tournament
>The High Priest is only top 5
Who the fuck is top 3? He's literally God's right hand. I have a hard time believing they're not present in the tournament. The only feasible options are Captain Ayyy, Brewmaster, and NotBeerus.
I actually think that Buu will lose. He'll still be smiling through the whole thing, but it will be to show how the other universes have things up their sleeve to even out the matches. Maybe Buu's opponent has something that nullifies his regeneration?
This puts Goku on edge, but also excited since the fighters are pretty strong. Gohan decides that he can't fool around and goes all out from the start of his match and though he has some trouble with Lavender, he still puts away the win.
Goku however is just going to dominate his opponent and everyone will realize that Goku is probably their biggest threat in the tournament.
Because of Bra. He's still waiting for her to be born and Goku knows better then to ask. Also the less that other people know about the tournament the better. Why put worry on Bulma when she's with child?
So do you guys think we're going to see more JoJo type gimmick powers similar to Hit's time skip in the tournament or do you think the tournament will be mostly brute strength beat downs?
>Good if Gohan is back I won't be needed
He was the strongest guy that challenged Frieza when he returned when Goku and Vegeta were with Whis. His loss was completely justified by Frieza's bullshit mutation and training . Plus his SSJ form was going fine against Goku. He will do just fine.
Exactly very good point, now what's up if we eat a tasty food from Gohan's mother?
I really hope we do. The best way to do an arc like this would be to make every universe radically different in their core powers. For example, Universe 6 & 7 use ki while other Universes use shit like robotic augmentations and magic.
It's kind of looking like every universe is going to use generic ki, isn't it?
Ki is probably universal, but that doesn't rule out other interesting things that fighters can do. The furries might have some kind of transformations that they can do, which is why Basil doesn't wear pants.
We have already seen a cyborg.
You've gone too far this time Buu.
Will he get a powerup?
>playing through Xenoverse 2
>being blasted every 30 minutes with how cool Future Gohan was
So cool he needed his own saiyan form.
>Buu gets really angry during the tournament
>Goes full on Kid Buu somehow
>Tournament has to be put on hold as literally every single combatant tries to subdue Buu
>Buu gets really mad and turns into kid buu
>Beerus taps him on the neck and knocks him out
>Fat Buu getting the shit kicked out of him
>He realizes that if he loses, Mr. Satan and Bee are going to die
>He gets pissed, and steam fills the arena
>Super Buu/Kid Buu emerges, and fucks up his opponent
>After the match, someone gives him candy, and he reverts into Fat Buu and chills out
Oh new information on Dragonball Super! Let's check it out and...
Gohan won't lose.
Fukkatsu No F gi was not popular in japan. Goku and Vegeta also didn't like them because they have Whis signature on them, meaning a reminder he is stronger. The original gi's will be used all the time now.
That gi doesn't have much time left anyway
All I want is for one of the other universes to have a backstory and some lore that's different to U7. Different AND engaging.
I hate the 3 characters revealed to be part of U9 because they look uninspired and obvious jobbing material and more like the inconsequential NPCs you find in Dragon Quest that amount to absolutely nothing. Hell, Lavender the suspenders hunchback looks like a random encounter mob.
Best characters of Dragonball so far have always been the rivals / villains turned allies.
His forehead was normal here, I hope they don't fuck it up and give him a massive forehead out of nowhere.
Considering what they did with the RoF gi, we probably will see him wearing that in the episodes around the tournament, just to turn around and wear the usual turtle gi again as soon as they're done remaking the end of Z.
I'm afraid it's a change in art style that won't be reverted
Well he looks fine in this roster shot so I hope he's okay.
>yfw Buu throws his match because Basil reminds him of Bee
Kid Buu is under rated. When I was 6 back in 96' I really related with this young adolescent character.
Even if people used to trash the Buu Saga for having too much filler and poor pacing paired with weak plotholes, it will still hold a place in my heart.
Am I the only one a bit concerned about the name of episode 80/81are show to be unknown ?
Could this has anything to do with the dumb" some "Indian think the elephant God is giving Ganesha a bad image things when the god hasn't even show up in the show yet few days ago ?
I really hope they don't change the script and design because of what some people says.
The only plothole that really bothers me in Buu saga is everyone thinking Gohan is dead even though they just wished Shenron to revive everyone
Buu better not fucking job to the fucking furfags
Nah. They often seem to hide episode titles in the beginning of the arc. The same happened with some of Trunks'.
Either way, the last known episode is Buu vs one of the u9 team, so the other two likely will be still the u9 battle.
>So do you guys think we're going to see more JoJo type gimmick powers similar to Hit's time skip in the tournament
Sure, but more than anything else I want to see a wide range of martial arts. Not constant rapid punch spam that Toei usually does.
Toei hasn't been doing much of that in Super.
The downside is that poorly animation is harder to disguise when there are actual punches, kicks and evasives being shown, but I take that over punch flurries and characters appearing and disappearing all over the screen any day.
>Super hasn't had really much rapid punch spam outside of some training sequences though.
>Toei hasn't been doing much of that in Super.
Are we watching the same show?
Hell, the first part of the new OP was nothing but rapid punch spam.
>For example, in the U6 tournament, the Hit battle was the only one with that.
That? Not the part where Goku decides to make a fucking Spirit Bomb and watch as Vegeta, Buu and Mr. Satan almost die horribly trying to protect him, instead of asking Kaioshin to teleport Gohan to the Kai Planet and kill Kid Buu with one finger?
Also, they knew the linmitations of the Namekian Dragon Balls, they planned all this knowing they can only resurrect one person per wish, yet Toriyama had to write "lol it's chill we powered them up" instead of using them normally to make the most logical wish (bring Gohan back).
That's my problem with the current character designs revealed in the intro so far.
Now there may be some Hit fanboys out there but he seriously has the personality and depth of Keanu Reeve's acting career.
His abilities are cool no doubt, but he's missing the charm that we lost after Buu of former villains turned allies.
So far the best addition to the cast is a shakily neutral Beerus and Whis, and judging from the screenshots the only characters that don't seem like one-dimensional one-off battles,and with potential for development are Smugpup, Brolyna and Cabba.
The reason I enjoyed 17 and 18 so much is because they expressed multiple emotions given the situation, unlike something like Buu, who is either manchild happy or ragekid mad. 18 and her snarkiness, especially in the Buu saga was one of my favorite characters..
Vegeta I'm happy for and all, and has been one of my favorite characters in the series, and especially in Super, but I feel like his character's developed too much and there's not much else to go with him - I want fresh blood, and if it be a smug looking furry, I'll take it.
Hit is pretty boring, but in his defense he hasn't been in a situation where he would show any character or strong emotions other than some battle lust here and there. Would be nice if he fights someone that fucks with him.
Hoping this follows the molds of yyh's dark tournament, with a huge crowd, commentators, compeling back stories, universes sabotaging each other etc..
Unfortunately, given the huge ammount of characters it will be impossible to have all fights
shown to us, and probably many will happen offscreen. Also, somehow I doubt we will be going throught the whole tournament without interruptions to make it short or stop it and continue later on..
Gohan was basically on the verge of dying as and after the wish was made. Pic related. Besides Videl said she had a feeling he was alive.
>That? Not the part where Goku decides to make a fucking Spirit Bomb
Except that was Vegeta's idea. Besides Kid Buu would probably just absorb him or someone else again. Like he did when that buff Kaioken was kicking his ass.
>tfw Vegeta is probably gonna miss Bra's birth because of Goku's shenanigans
Make the Vegeta suffering stop.
>Fox named Basil
>DBS referencing decade old British kid's shows
STOP RIGHT THERE FAGGOT!
WHAT IS THE BEST ARC IN THE ORIGINAL DRAGON BALL?
Both. Goku will clean up the 3 fighters himself.
It's possible no one even jobs. These three are clearly throaway enemies and having Gohan and Buu job will have a better effect hyping up more important rivals later on when the tournament proper starts.
Future Super Saiyan is the same as Super Saiyan 1 but also adds a +15% boost to Stamina Regeneration.
I personally think that Future Super Saiyan + Cabba's Soul "I'll make you regret that!" is a top tier transformation for melee fighters, SSJ3 has a 20% boost to Melee Damage and a 10% boost to Ki Damage but nerfs Ki Regeneration down to -85% but Cabba's soul boosts Strike damage by 10% and Basic attack damage by 20% making it far stronger than Super Saiyan 3 with far more ki regeneration and a boost to Stamina Regeneration.
>U7 steamrolls past the U9 fighters
>Buu and Gohan get cool fight scenes
>Goku starts laughing once they win
>Zeno obliterates U9
>All the other Gods and fighters were spectating the tournament
>start seeing U7 as a threat and the evil gang
It's fucking Goku. He trained his ass off for those 10 years while Gohan's power regressed because he did nothing but fuck off with Videl and become a scholar. He and Vegeta were both stronger than EoZ Gohan. Hell, fucking Uub probably was too.
I would presume that Anon must mean Vegeta may be getting his own transformation? that or he might mean Mystic Gohan, which to be fair has blue sparks in the opening which I don't think has happened before?
>It's Goku, so he becomes several times stronger even if plot doesn't need it
>Gohan's power regressed
Literally headcanon, anything in the original manga suggest those things.
>He and Vegeta were both stronger than EoZ Gohan.
>stronger than Mystic Gohan
OK now you are being delusional
Gohan's power regressed like shit between the Cell and Buu sagas because of lack of training, you retarded Gohanfag. If he didn't train for fucking 10 years and the other two did, particularly Goku, it makes perfect sense that they'd end up stronger.
>Vegeta may be getting his own transformation?
>Mystic Gohan, which to be fair has blue sparks in the opening which I don't think has happened before?
Are you implying Toei is consistent with the auras? Come on...
Goku's gi has no sigils so it looks more like Buu saga and beyond's outfit in comparison to the Anime where he has a sigil on front and back.
We don't even know how much power he lost during the 10 year skip, and we'll never have a straight answer now. For all we know he didn't lose anything, seeing how he was still buff as hell.
>Gohan's power regressed like shit between the Cell and Buu sagas because of lack of training
Which means nothing because mystic Gohan doesn't needed training. Gohan doesn't go mystic by training so why lack of training would make him weaker? Stop pushing your headcanon.
>you retarded Gohanfag
Anon please, stop being retarded. EoZ Goku (until DBS) have no chance against characters like Gotenks or Gohan, even if they sucks as fighters. Blame Toriyama if you can't deal with it
More of a duality thing and how Vegeta tends to skip over forms, Goku uses Full Power Super Saiyan, Vegeta uses Ascended, Vegeta uses Super Saiyan 2, Goku already has Super Saiyan 3, Goku gets Super Saiyan God, Vegeta is training for Super Saiyan Blue.
Goku already has Kaio-Ken Blue so it only makes sense that Vegeta must be obtaining some sort of form or power up to match Goku and it is doubtful that Vegeta controlling his anger in the Black Arc is sufficient for that purpose, especially when Goku already proved himself to be stronger against Merged Zamasu and the beatdown he put on Black when he got angry combined with Kaio-Ken, we know nothing of Goku's new form but we can assume that it may have to do with Super Saiyan God or Kaio-Ken which makes Vegeta getting it unlikely, chances are that Vegeta will either get his own form/power-up or Goku will discover some form beyond his new one that Vegeta will achieve.
tl:dr Vegeta tends to skip forms like Super Saiyan 3 and Super Saiyan God and will most likely not get Goku's new form due to it likely having to do with Super Saiyan God or Kaio-Ken meaning he will need his own power up or transformation to match Goku again.
>Are you implying Toei is consistent with the auras? Come on...
Uh not really? but the opening is kind of important and the kind of thing that you put a lot of detail into, not to mention I don't really recall Toei fucking up auras and electricity in the past so Gohan having electricity with Mystic could very well be a nod to him being stronger or having improved it somehow.
LETS DO THIS
LETS FIGURE OUT HOW/WHEN EACH FIGHTER WILL BE DISQUALIFIED
Goku - Won't be
Vegeta - Will get heemed into oblivion by the arc's big bad to raise the stakes for Goku, as per the natural order
Gohan - Will be beaten somewhere along the way with disappointingly little importance, perhaps just to build a grudge match for Goku
Buu - Will be beaten by an actual strong fighter, can see it being Hit
17 - Killed
18 - Beaten by an actual strong fighter
Piccolo - Jobbed out fairly unforgivingly after some decent showings
Tien - Will actually be useful against low-tiers with his superior tactics before running up against a wall
Krillin - Will have some good moments and show his heart before, like Tien, running up against a wall
Disqualified for squeezing a competitor's tits
It doesnt really make sense for de-tail them anymore considering Vegeta knows how to keep yourself in control during the transformation.
I'll bet its more of an appearance choice, so people dont keep looking at your child weird, even though there's literal wolf people on the world.
>Which means nothing because mystic Gohan doesn't needed training.
>EoZ Goku (until DBS) have no chance against characters like Gotenks or Gohan
>Stop pushing your headcanon
Irony. Gohanfags are so fucking delusional.
I really have high hopes for smugpup being relevant, and hopefully not in a "Hahaha these 3 fagets you rekt are worthless I am evil, selfish and all powerful my eventual downfall will make no impact."
It's a toss-up between Smugpup and Brolyna who seems to be the incredible hulk type who can't control herself when her power goes maximum. I can't see anyone else joining the cast of major side characters outside of Cabba.
Cpt Ayyy Lmao and his team wearing matching colors is a bad sign of being anything else other than the mini-boss squad.
>17 - Killed
No way. He wouldn't be brought back to job. He's going to be as important as Trunks was the past arc.
Goku - gets to the final
Vegeta - jobs to main rival
Gohan - has decent performance overall
Buu - Jobs to strong fighter right off the gate
17 - Surprisingly gets far into the tournament before losing
18 - Jobs right away to give Krillin motivation
Piccolo - Jobs right away to give Gohan motivation
Tien - Gets decent showings at the start
Krillin - Gets midway through out of sheer luck of the draw
Roshi - Gets also surprisingly far, will probably be a mentor of sorts to the others (or at least Goku and Krillin) once he gets knocked out
>Goku already has Kaio-Ken Blue
>but the opening is kind of important
You mean like KAI opening with SS3 Goku orange sparks? Or KAI ending with SS2 Goku and SS2 Vegeta with yellow sparks? Or the fact that "this video is important" doesn't mean Toei is 100% consistent?
Goku - Forfeits against Ayy Lmao which makes Zeno unable to destroy Ayy Lmaos universe whilst at the same time not really wanting to destroy Goku's Universe
Vegeta - Part of a 3 man team with Goku and Piccolo or Gohan against Ayy Lmao team in the finals, Vegeta beats Ayy Lmaos teammate and then fights Ayy Lmao while Goku fights Ayy Lmaos other teammate and Ayy Lmao makes him job
Gohan - Defeated in Semi-Finals or Finals, potentially a respectable defeat that ends in a tie or gives Universe 7 the chance to win
Buu - Part of the Semi-Finals team and loses to the guy Gohan defeats
17/18 - Pull off a Respectable win but are too damaged to continue
Krillin - Wins Quarter Finals with Tien and Roshi against a team far beyond their leagues but they manage to win in a very close match thanks to their experience and tactical knowledge.
Piccolo - Most likely to be in the Semi-Finals
Don't start that shit again. They're canon to theirselves.
>You mean like KAI opening with SS3 Goku orange sparks? Or KAI ending with SS2 Goku and SS2 Vegeta with yellow sparks?
That's actually referencing the full color version of the manga. Call it an easter egg and leave it at that.
The color of SSJ2 sparks being different in a opening is completely different to someone having sparks when they usually do not.
Also arguing canon in DBS is the most autistic thing in the fandom right now, more so than Power Level bullshit, Anime and Manga are both equally canon and the anime can full well use Kaio-Ken as the basis of Goku's new form seeing as the manga used Super Saiyan God and could just use their own thing in the manga.
>"Which means nothing because mystic Gohan doesn't needed training."
He needed it? OK, show me how Gohan trained to become "Mystic Gohan".
>"EoZ Goku (until DBS) have no chance against characters like Gotenks or Gohan"
Sorry anon but characters doesn't become 8 times stronger after 10 years with no reason, and Goku becoming so strong just to make him stronger than Gohan isn't a reason.
>implying I'm a gohanfag
>also ad hominem
Please anon stop making a fool of yourself.
You're implying that he doesn't need to train to maintain that level of power, which is headcanon.
>with no reason
So you're illiterate as well. I'm not shocked.
>ad hominem hurr
Thanks for another easy win, Gohanfag.
AYY LMAO will not let Booze-sama down
It's just his headcanon fabricated from the fact he was losing to Kid Buu.
The thing about Kid Buu is that his power is immeasurable and that's the only benchmark we had against newly reborn Mr.Buu
>It's canon to the anime
It's canon to anime's continuity, not actual canon (Toriyama's outline). If Goku's new form is in the new OP is for sure a canon new form.
>They're canon to theirselves.
>That's actually referencing the full color version of the manga. Call it an easter egg and leave it at that.
What the fuck are you talking about. SS2 sparks are yellow in the manga and blue in the anime, put yellow sparks in the ending of a series with blue sparks makes no sense, even if you think is an easter egg, anime shows orange sparks too.
>The color of SSJ2 sparks being different in a opening is completely different to someone having sparks when they usually do not.
It's an inconsistency about auras, and there's more in the anime series. God dammit even base Goku have sparks in the first DBZ opening
>Also arguing canon in DBS is the most autistic thing in the fandom right now
I'm not arguing, I'm saying a fact. SSBKK is Toei only.
Anime and Manga are both equally canon
Haha nice one
>the anime can full well use Kaio-Ken as the basis of Goku's new form seeing as the manga used Super Saiyan God and could just use their own thing in the manga.
So are you saying they don't need SSBKK to introduce a new form? Thanks to support my point.
you know, you've all successfully managed to turn the term ''canon'' into a buzzword
Am I the only one who prefers Buu saga Vegeta's design than any other?
Always thougth the armor was kind of meh
>hurr everything needs to outright be stated or else it's headcanon
this fanbase is fucking retarded
how would you handle a medium with subtle implicit storytelling?
I'm really curious
It would be much better if they use the format in Yuyu Hakusho where each one just fights one opponent rather than continuing on til the last man standing like in the U6 vs U7.
As people brought up, it would be very much be the same
>starting from weakest to strongest
>everyone eventually loses except for goku who is the last one
which makes it somewhat boring and repetitive.
That way, each one has a good chance of winning or losing to show their skills instead of just being the designated jobber/winner. Goku could still lose his fight against their strongest but U7 still wins cause most of the others won. We could even have the order of fighting to be shuffled, so we could have the other characters take the spotlight for last win versus each universe.
>You're implying that he doesn't need to train to maintain that level of power, which is headcanon.
You're implying that he need to train, and the manga shows how he don't need training to become "mystic" and how he still mystic even if never trained again in 10 fucking years. Original manga support the idea of a permanent mystic Gohan, if you are disagree, that's headcanon.
>"ad hominem hurr" no argument
But anon, THAT's not an argument. Are you even trying?
>Thanks for another easy win
OK you clearly aren't
Not only is it cooler, it also makes sense that he wouldn't want to depend on armors anymore, too much pride for that shit
If the new forms basis turns out to be Kaio-Ken then yes they kinda do need SSBKK to set up its reveal also the Manga and Anime are indeed both canon, do you even know how it works? Toriyama gives an outline to both Toei and Toyotaro and they create their own version of how Toriyama's outline would happen.
So Toriyama says something like "Goku reveals a trick up his sleeve against Hit which is something he used in the past"
Toyotaro goes "Alright I will make it so Goku can use Super Saiyan God since that form is very stable and has little to no flaws but is weaker than Super Saiyan Blue in my version"
Toei goes "Okay we will bring back an old favourite with Kaio-Ken since Super Saiyan Blue is such a calm and stable form in our version"
So they are indeed both canon in the sense that