Has anyone been more deserving of a win than Haruka?

>>153235301
How the hell did she evolve from a 10/10 cutie to a fatass granny?

>>153235301
Is that the Christmas cake in Rahxephon?

>>153235437
Yes
>>153235401
Fatass granny? What?

>>153235461
I'm happy she won, wouldnt have it any other way

>>153235301
Amber.

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>>153235737
Same, she waited 15 years to win the Ayato-bowl

>>153235765
Speaking of which I should few arch it soon, that Ed song is just hauntingly beautiful. Also any thoughts on preference on the anime vs movie?

>>153236232
Rewatch it, fucking autocorrect

>>153236232
Anime >>>> Movie. Movie is only good for Hemisphere

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Og6erp5hTw

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>>153236280
>Hemisphere
I meant Tune the Rainbow

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>>153235301
>Christmas cake wins a -bowl
>mfw

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>>153236351
Felt good, right? Felt real fucking good.

>>153236232
Movie has a more bittersweet ending, which I enjoyed but the anime was a more coherent story. Both are solid experiences and I recommend both, though anime first than movie. Also getting to watch 15 year old Haruka? pure diabeetus.

>>153236280
Why is this anime so underrated? I know it gets dismissed on the surface for being an NGE copy, but good lord I remember this way more fondly than neon genesis

>>153236232
The series, by far. The movie has like two good songs and that's about it. I will never get over Oshii trying to shit on RahXephon when he only watched the movie, that pisses me off so much.

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>>153236430
rahxephon simply came out at a time when the market was being flooded with tons of NGE-like shows. Other great shows like Dual suffered the same fate.

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>>153235301
Was this the most coherent ending Bones has ever done? So many of them sputter out at the end but I remember feeling satisfied when the last episode finished.

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Rahxephon had an amazing soundtrack for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkiEuIgkCCs

>>153236430
Pretty much what >>153236732 said. It did not help that a lot of the dolem fights were very similar to some of the angels as well.

>>153236847
Exquisite tracks

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anybody else lost it at Hirokos death scene? havent felt as helpless watching as that one in a long time

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>>153237253
You could say her death was gut-wrenching

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>>153237253
Maybe.

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>>153235301
Tsumugi.

>>153237253
That whole episode was a goddamn tour-de-force

>>153237253
Yes, that episode was painful as fuck.

Anyone else notice Izubuchi seemed to be resuing some of the same devices in the space witch episode of 2199? They really didn't work as well there, it was a bit of a letdown.

>>153236321
>Tune the Rainbow
I had completely forgot how great some of this shows music actually was.

https://youtu.be/a_tPCYu_90o

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>>153237253
It's called "Blue Friend - Ticket To Nowhere"

Episode 19.

Do yourself a favor and watch it, even just as a once off. It's one of the best episodes of any anime ever, and I don't say that lightly.

For those who won't, The MC pulls a Shinji and runs away with one of the girls. Said girl tries to hide the fact that she's emotionally breaking down because--unbeknownst to her--she's basically the avatar of one of the big angel-like things that's attacking earth. She ironically sees the MC as the only thing stable in her life.

Said MC returns to piloting his mech in order to protect her; he finally has something worth fighting for.

He goes off to fight the thing his girl is the avatar for, and ends up killing it/her in a heart-wrenching scene where's he goes all shounen MC while the girl get brutally killed via proxy in her hotel room, all the while she's saying things like "I have something to tell you" "I love you" and "I'm sorry" which get televised to TVs, train station screens and the goddamned electrical grid through sheer emotion.

Watch it.

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Titthime.

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Did Haruka fuck Itsuki Kisaragi?

I guess it doesn't matter anyway since Kamina destroyed and rebuilt the world, so he was always with Haruka.

>>153237775
>telling people to skip 18 episodes of a series
>spoils the entire fucking episode
what was your endgame here bub?

>>153237775
gets me everytime, nothing comes close imo how this tragedy unfolded.

>>153237907
maybe he forgot to add spoilers?

>>153237907
>telling people to skip 18 episodes of a series
They're not missing much.

>spoils the entire fucking episode
Kinda hard to find online. A quick blurb on /a/ does it no justice. Hopefully it'll spur someone to search for it a bit better than me. It'll still be a rollercoaster.

If not, that's what were going on about.

lisp mama made my dick hard

>>153236232
The ED is indeed great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVjz-791hy8&t=44m18s

>>153237253
>>153237775

That episode was indeed great. Definitely the best of the series.

This series doesn't get brought up much on here, but to me it's pretty special, still stands the test of time

>>153235301
absolutely worst girl in a decent show

OP was god tier

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>>153235301
>Christmas cake wins
>The entire universe is reset and everything that happened in the entire series never happened then in the alternate universe were she's not a cake she "wins"

Is this the most deceptively terrible ending in all of anime? I think it is.

>>153236232
Watch the movie first, then watch the movie for the sex scene.

>>153240330
*anime first

>>153237901
pretty sure she did, but itsuki was a reincarnation of the MC in the manga so it doesnt really matter all that much

>>153236732
True, but while Eva turned into an endless clusterfuck that still lives today as kind of a zombie, RahXephon had the virtue to have a satisfying ending... and better characters, and soundtrack

>>153242992
very much this. nice discussing this series gentlemen

>fall in love with a smoking hot 16 year old
>have to settle for her 30 year old self when you're only like 18
>and now you're suddenly a father

seemed like a raw deal to me.

>>153242992
end of evangelion was far more memorable and satisfying and gripping to watch than the final 2 episodes of rahxephon were IMO

it's also the opinon of critics and audiences in general

>>153236430
>>153236430
Because it's a surface level copy of Evangelion. Why love the facsimile when you have the original? That's the general mindset of people, especially when you think about the proximity between EoE getting and when RahXephon started airing.

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>>153237515
Can't believe I've been listening to the soundtrack for about 14 years now.
>>153240303
But if she didn't win, the world would never have been retuned and would have been fucked.

>>153245346
the track that keeps pulling me back in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Og6erp5hTw

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Ah yes, the series that made me say "fuck no" to unfinished series for nearly a decade. Waiting about three weeks for the next ep to be subbed after #24 was a bit less than all fun and games.

>>153237253
And somehow Bones went form stuff like that and Wolf's Rain, to Eureka 7 etc.

Shameless bump

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>>153245346
>But if she didn't win, the world would never have been retuned and would have been fucked.

Nah, Quon would simply have folded the human world into the murian one, instead of Ayato folding muria into ours.

Now if neither had gotten their thumb out of their arse, then we'd be back to quantum noise again.

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And then this happened.

I only remember this show for the brown goddess.

Why is Hemisphere so fucking good bros?

>>153248125
wait what?

>>153247979
>>153248017
>>153248050
>>153248083
amazing, which site did they come from?

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>>153248371
It's from Interlude, a single ep OVA or something.

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>>153248587
Can't remember. File tags suggest it was back in 2004 though, so it's probably long gone anyway.

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>>153248337
Every vocal track from Rahxephon is a solid 10/10.

https://youtu.be/4t1_35xiub4
https://youtu.be/2Og6erp5hTw
https://youtu.be/a_tPCYu_90o
https://youtu.be/BkiEuIgkCCs

>see this thread
>remember watching it a long time ago
>remember being it VERY similar to evangelion, but MUCH less stupid, enjoyed it way more
>lots of talk about the ost
>"hemisphere"
>youtube it

HOLY.SHIT

can't believe I forgot about it

>>153236732
only dual started as a parody of eva, while rahxephon was typecast as a clone by retards

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Were there ever any decent figures produced of the mechs in this show?

>>153250359
dunno, best to check yahoo auctions ラーゼフォン　プラモデル

>>153235301
>Basically if Misato and Shinji actually ended up together at the end of Eva

I'll give it to this show for that

>>153236770
I mean there was Darker Than Black, and Space Dandy was quite consistent throughout

i cant even remember how it ended
it was so bland

Rahxephon and Fafner are basically two shows that took the two aspects of Eva (Abstract lol2deep4u and classic sci fi mecha adventure) and each did one of those aspects to the max and are more enjoyable than eva

>>153251409
Ayatollah and Quon were avatars for machine gods who could rebuild reality. They fought and the one with the stronger will to make the world what they want won and remade the world

Quon simply acted because she was content with her role and her performance. Ayato wanted to be with Haruka more than anything else which was why he kept painting the same damn thing the entire show

>>153251623
>and are more enjoyable than eva
Nope. Not even close, sorry. Wake me when anything at all in Rahxephon is as good as End of Evangelion. There is a reason people remember Eva but hardly anyone remembers Fafner or Rahxephon

>>153235301
One of the times I didn't like the cake.

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>>153251623
I'd throw in Argento Soma. The central mystery about the aliens seeking out "the center" was pretty cool and I absolutely adored the ending, that wasn't all doom and gloom, but had a wonderfully uplifting message. Then the out of place seeming ending montage and how it all came together with a nice true science fiction twist at its core.

>>153252277
End Of Evangelion is literally pretty visuals and a nonsensical self masturbatury story. Stop letting the fact that it is one of the first anime you watched cloud your opinion. Evangelion itself is a half assess attempt at being subversive while not actually going too far and then throws any internal and external consistency out because of Anno's depression.

I am surprised that nobody has even mentioned Brave Raideen yet. If you are to compare Rahxephon to any other show, it would be Brave Raideen more so than NGE.

>>153252277
yeah, it came first. suck a dick eva faggot

>>153252277
but end of evangelion ruined evangelion

>>153236770
The ending to DtB was a fucking mess. If it weren't for the Gaidens that redeemed some of the plot, I doubt people would have remember it fondly.

I haven't finished Space Dandy whoops but I remember it being pretty episodic like Bebop. Not sure that's comparable to something that focuses on an overarching narrative.

>>153253835
Whoops, meant to quote

>>153251263

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>>153253367
If I remember correctly it was stated in an old interview that the Rahxephon design was directly influenced by the original Raideen design.

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>>153252878
Argento soma was leagues better then Rahxephon. Also the setting was really interesting as it was the upper midwest of the USA.

>>153253251
>Stop letting the fact that it is one of the first anime you watched cloud your opinion

I was watching anime before you were born, newfag. Stop trying to fit in.

>>153251409
I remember the plot being okay, but the characters were so boring. Everyone was paper thin.

>>153252277
Fafner is surprisingly popular in Japan though. There's a reason it just had a continuation and is getting another sequel soon.

>>153254731
Sure you were buddy. I bet you even cringe at CGI like a good boy too

>>153252277
>it's better because of the alternate ending movie tie-in
Wake me when anything in NGE itself is as good as >>153237253

>it's remembered more
You've been watching anime since before we were born and you still think this is ever a relevant argument about quality?

>>153242992
You simply cannot say that Rah has better characters. Eva is completely built upon its characters, it is a personality and relationships study.

They might not be as likeable, because they all are massively flawed. While in Rah you have the cute cake and her even cuter imouto and typical slightly dense yet brave MC, in Eva you have complex people with maybe a ittle bit too much drama.

I also wouldn't be so sure about the OST. Eva for the most part is tame in music, but it sometimes has great impact. The OP is a classic, and fly me to the moon fit the context perfectly.

Please keep this thread alive, Rahxephon discussions are rare as fuck.

find me a better cover than this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdmmIRQTlE4

>>153256739
Not him, but I think they've both got great characters in different veins, and I'd actually say that RahXephon is built on relationships more than NGE. NGE to me is more about the individuals - relationships are there as a theme, but that's really about the characters' anxieties and personal problems that relationships provoke. RahXephon is also character-driven, but in a more mundane/traditional sense, and I think the relationships are more central here as opposed to just a means to an end - I feel like it's more about exploring the backgrounds of the character's interactions and the way those play out (there's tons of jealousy and unrequited love and lost loved ones), rather than NGE's more introspective psychological stuff centering around the breakdowns.

>>153242992
>RahXephon had the virtue to have a satisfying ending
You must be joking. The lazy time gets rewritten so nothing that happened in the story really matters and everyone in the story is basically rewritten. It's trash and the worst kinda ending.

>>153257632
Hm, this kinda begs the question, if these series were to be released more further apart initially, would Rahxephon be given more recognition? or is the tag of NGE forever shadow an otherwise a great series? Both series has its strengths and weaknesses. one weakness i heard against rah was that it didn't hand hold its audience about story and therefore lost the general public

>>153256739
But does an anime really really need massively flawed characters in order to be considered good?

>>153257884
It would gain a little recognition, though a few more appearances on SRW to promote the show wouldn't hurt.

I feel that NGE is famous for the wrong reasons, mainly the viewers became obsessed with trying to analyze the themes and imagery of the show, or with the characters themselves.

>>153258152
hmm well lets consider this, say Rahxephon would to be released today, would it have a more larger following?
oh for those who been looking for the extended version of hemisphere, here ya go!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8idew_rahxephon-opening-hemisphere-de-maa_creation
download it while you can

>>153257809
You realize that Eva (the manga) just did that, isn't it? And by the way Rebuild is going, it's the only way out for that clusterfuck

>Eva
>Good characters

Baaaaaaaw I'm a whiny teenager mouth piece for the author
We're meant to be parodies of female archetypes to subvert them BUT Anno still whores us out for all we're worth
Hello we're all adults who all are barely functional and are miserable

Shit's fucking nothing

>>153258613
The manga was trash, are you really surprised?

>>153248337
Yoko Kanno + Maya Sakamoto

>>153259647
>Maya Sakamoto
I only watched it dubbed.

>>153257632
I agree with with you.

A basic theme in Eva is the concept of yourself, what you think yourself is, and how others see you. So it is as you said based on individuals, but also deals heavily with how individuals form relationships and develop in society.

I don't remember every detail for Rahxephon, but I recall it was mostly based on relationships and trust on other people. It is as you said more mundane, a more simplistic way to tell a story. However, it also makes it easier to like the characters and feel sad for them, for example in that episode where the other gir dies after running away with her.

>>153258543
I don't think Rahxephon would be more popular today. I would probably be even less popular. It would go by under the radar as yet another good but not great anime in a season packed with plenty of other shows.

If it not as edgy or groundbreaking to really set itself apart today. It is not Madoka, or SnK .

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>>153251623
Good taste anon

>>153259647
Maya is singing hemisphere.

goodnight sweet thread, you will be missed

>>153235301

Honestly, the short hair with the band is really not that great a design.

The long hair on her, in younger days, was fantastic.

>>153236732
True.
Most people don't even remember them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfPxw1_asHc

Some of them were fucking hilarious.

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The thing I dislike about Eva compared to most of the Post-Eva psychological mecha series is that Anno compromised his message and story because he got mad at the fans with EoE.

Stuff like Rahxephon, Fafner, even the Bokurano manga can all be depressing but all of them never compromise the message of hope at the end and none of these shows ever go "FUCK YOU FILTHY OTAKU YOU'RE THE PROBLEM"

Even Ideon, the series that inspired a lot of Eva and even was forced to make it's ending into a movie despite ending with the entire universe dying still had a hopeful ending.

Meanwhile Anno ended his series with a petty tantrum against the fans and then some purposefully vague ending designed only to make people think it's deep by having to make the ending for themselves.

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>mfw those happy teenage days of watching rahxephon on anime unleashed on G4

I want those days back

>>153266680
dam lucky, first watched it a couple of years ago, seeing anons talk about it here on a, saying how a Christmas cake won the bowl. never looked back since

>>153258543
just nab the OST of bakabt, it has hemisphere.

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>>153247724
I don't want to imagine living in a world where I have blue blood
>>153247405
The concept and promotion art for the show is fucking Godly
>>153248337
Because Kanno + Sakamoto. Speaking of Maaya Sakamto, the way Million Clouds builds up reminds me a lot of Hemisphere
>>153249248
Shame I can't find Fate of Katun on Youtube. Well it's not like I don't have it on my computer.
>>153250359
I've only seen figures of Xephon itself, and those have looked good.

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>>153237775
Outlaw Star did it so much better in Cats Girls and Spaceships

>>153271642
You liking it better and because you watched it on Toonami doesn't make it better.

It doesn't even hold the same emotional impact because the Catbitch is never questioning her job, while Asahina is literally being hijacked into the fight and Ayato actually realizes what the fuck he was doing.

The music isn't even on the same level. Fuck off. I like Outlaw Star but I'm not a fucking nostaliga blinded idiot.

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>>153236732
Not only is Dual! Better than Rahxephon, it was the show NGE should have been.

>>153271721
The fact Jim never finds out, and he just waits for a sweetheart that will never come is why it's superior to not!Shinji and his buddy's girlfriend.

>>153272140
>Ayato
>Anything like Shinji

Fuck off. You didn't pay attention to shit. Ayato's a totally different beast that Shinji that fucking surface level viewers think are the same

Also if you think it's more tragic to never find out you killed your sweatheart compared to realizing you beat her to death unknowingly and finding her corpse in your room proves you're an idiot

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>>153271642
Your taste is complete shit. Nothing about that episode lives up to the Rah one.

>>153269558
>The concept and promotion art for the show is fucking Godly
Is it ever. Fucking Yamada Akihiro.

>>153272241
Why are you defending derivative pretentious crap? Rahxephon's only good qualities are the soundtrack and watching the imouto get bullied by life. The only vaguely memorable episode was the Christmas one.

To this day I've not figured out why the bothered to spend so much screentime on the fighter chicks that did nothing.

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>>153272472
I'd say why are you praising derivative mindless schlock like Outlaw Star then?

Just because you didn't enjoy the themes or the concepts in a show doesn't mean you're the end all be all opinion.

You only saw Ayato as a "Shinji Clone" when Ayato and Shinji are fundamentally different. Shinji fucking had no idea what he wanted and finding it was a core theme of Eva.
Ayato KNEW what he fucking wanted and the core theme was realizing what exactly that was and finding the way to get it

If you can't understand that difference you obviously weren't watching either the shows intently enough

>>153272865
>Ayato KNEW what he fucking wanted and the core theme was realizing what exactly that was
Not him (and I'm not defending anything he's spewing), but this seems contradictory.

>>153272923
Ayato wanted the girl in the painting because she was his muse.

The thing was because of the story, he didn't realize WHO that girl was which was why he kept chasing after girls similar who he was superimposing his muse onto and why the Rahxephon tried to use her likeness to get him to ascend to godhood. The episode where he goes into the painting frenzy and the Rahxephon goes berserk is the culmination of this, because the Rahxephon tried to lead him on to get what it wanted and then got fucking wrecked when Ayato realized it wasn't who he wanted.

It's also why the series ends with Ayato meeting Haruka, because that was what Ayato wanted all along, and the entire series is getting back to that magic point that kick started most of the conflicts in the show and was Ayato's driving force.

>>153273064
Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, that makes sense, I just didn't understand what you were getting at.

>>153235301
I really love it when she let her inner young maiden self out.

I'm impressed /a/ remembers this show, and the thread didn't die in 8 posts.

>>153272865
OS knew what it was, a fun treasure hunt.

Rahxephon wasted so much time. Ayatollah was only into Asahina for that episode. The whole show was full of crap they never did anything with like Quon or the fighter pilots or the snake guy or the villains clones. It was all BS if the only thing was to get Shinji with Misato. Which in the end was really the whole point of Rahxephon.

>>153273938
>Ayatollah

Phone poster detected

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Sweet dreams.

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>>153273938
>Ayatollah

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>>153274016
;__;

Oh RahXephon, fly me to the music.

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Thanks ADV

Does the movie differ much from the series?
I'd like to rewatch the series but I'm too lazy to do it.

>>153277680
It's a recap movie so it's the series condesned into a worse fashion with a new ending where instead of "Rahxephon fixes the world" it's "Rahxephon fixes everything but can't exist inside the fixed world so Ayato and Haruka can't be together"

Either watch the series or don't. Don't be a lazy ANN tier fuck who watches Recap movies

>>153273606
Some people here actually like anime and have been watching it for 20 years or more.

>>153277704
not that anon, and maybe my memory is fuzzy, but I'm pretty sure Ayato and Haruka still end up together in both. But yeah the movie really trims the series and not in a good way. there are moments in the anime that add to the whole story. Albeit the movie adds a few new scenes that weren't in the anime. Watch anime first, then movie