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Can a westerner make a manga?

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Can a westerner make a manga?
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>>153224433
I think I've heard of people self-publishinging their own manga in the west. Probably doesn't sell very well though. There's no publication structure for it here and the vast majority of your potential audience will never find out about it if you do self-publish. You could try asking /co/ about the possibility of publishing a manga through comic book publishers but I think they all require color and their preexisting audience is looking for different kinds of stories than you may be interested in writing. That said, I think if somebody wrote a break-out manga in the west that hit all the right notes for the entry-level anime crowd that watches things like One Punch Man or Attack on Titan it would be possible to generate interest in a western manga scene. Once interest is there preexisting publishers would have a precedent that shows the viability of the market and could start expanding down that path.
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>>153224433
Of course.

If your art and storytelling is good you can be successful. Just distribute your shit on the internet for free. If it's really good, people will start reading your shit and if you're persistent you'll make a name for yourself and at some point also money.
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>>153224433
yeah it is called comic
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Maybe, but people wouldn't think of it as a "manga". They would call it a comic with japanese inspiration, like Scott Pilgrim, or cartons such as Avatar and Steven Universe.
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>>153224433
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"Yes"
The question is are there any westerners who work as a director, producer, or etc in the anime industry
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http://boichi.com/interview/boichiday-boichi-answers-fans-questions/
See Q13
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>>153227634
>si vous inspirez à devenir mangaka
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>>153224939
>That said, I think if somebody wrote a break-out manga in the west that hit all the right notes for the entry-level anime crowd that watches things like One Punch Man or Attack on Titan it would be possible to generate interest in a western manga scene
Never going to happen because the people with the artistic skill to do this are either drawing nothing but porn or are SJW normalfags who wouldn't be willing to design eastern aesthetic characters.
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Wasn't Ninja Slayer originally a comic from the West till Trigger picked it up and turned it into an anime?
I hope that happens to me one day
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>>153224433
Sure, if they get published by a japanese magazine.
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>Japanese people call comics "Western Manga"
>Japanese people call cartoons "Western Anime"

>Weebs screech very loudly if you refer to anime as "Cartoons" or manga as "Comics"

Yeah, dude. Just do a comic book.
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Pic related is from a western artist :^)
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>>153227873
Already exists and it's not even porn.
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No.

All of the images here are "famous western manga" they are not famous manga in general. There's no breakout success western manga on the scale of One Piece or Naruto or FMA.

1. The manga sales structure isn't like it is in Japan. (eg. easy to buy/submit to Shounen Jump)

2. The morality, values and culture of western is different. The values of honor, tradition, and community is different in Japan v.s values of individualism, freedom, and ambition in the US.

3. There's a stigma against emulating Japanese culture in the U.S (Ah, it's a manga, it's weeb. But a DC comic or a show like Supernatural is acceptable.) In Japan manga is mainstream. You will forever be emulating another culture, rather than thriving on what makes the one you belong to and know best unique.

If you want a successful comic, it's possible (homestuck, Tower of God- both made by non-japanese) DC/Marvel is more of a company, so I understand the appeal in being the author of your own stories. In the U.S if you want to tell a story, the best medium would probably be television (Grey's Anatomy, adult cartoons like Rick and Morty)
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>>153228451
I'd fuck that boy
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I've actually been drawing my own manga for years now
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>>153228564
Post it
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>>153228564
>I've actually been drawing my own manga for years now
unless you are doing it for your own fulfillment, it will not be successful / no one will ever hear of it or read it. But prove me wrong maybe :3
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>>153224433
No.
Westerners can make good comics, but manga are inherently made by Japs.
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>>153228512

>The values of honor, tradition, and community is different in Japan v.s values of individualism, freedom, and ambition in the US.
>3. There's a stigma against emulating Japanese culture in the U.S

The world does not end at U.S. borders.
"The West" Encompasses Europe and former colonies of its empires in North America, South America, Australia, and South Africa.

A Yank might force the ideal of democracy based on the U.S. system, but an Italian, Brasilian, or Quebecois probably won't.
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>>153228880
That's all right. Even in other countries though, they have their own set of rules and values which become evident in the comic, consider the type of humor for example.

I believe that since Japanese manga is so widespread, we're used to reading about their honor and sacrifice (like samurais conducting fair battles, subtleties of social interactions) but when writing about it ourselves, it's difficult to emulate.

I think it's better to stick to what you know best, like the way some mangas are an international success, westerners have their own international successes too (Harry Potter, Game of Thrones... Fifty Shades of Gray............) ... but I don't see a successful western manga happening, I thought about this a lot since I wanted to do it since becoming inspired *cough hxh*, but I may have to redirect my passion if I want to find it.
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>>153224433
A porn manga, yeah.
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>>153224433
Know Japanese, move to Japan, becomes an assistant to a manga-ka, learn drawing techniques, how to apply line art, and to deal with the rigors of a deadline. Then go out on your own, get published with a huge chance of failure or getting canned unless you can connect to the audience, and deal with an editor who is constantly telling you no.

That's so easy

Sarcasm aside, if you have a modicum of talent and skill in drawing, paneling, and writing stories. You would have better luck just being a character designer, or working in Hollywood doing concept art with scriptwriters.
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>>153224433
Yes
It's just really
really
really
hard
Even more so if you want to be a big one. Too bad no one's put forth the effort needed to do it
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I remember some French dude managed to get his work published in japan in I think was a weekly magazine, Not sure if it got cancelled or not (can't really remember what it was called)

Gonna do some digging see if I can find it
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>>153232092
https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=112389
this?
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Can a westerner submit to Kyoani's light novel thing?
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>>153232971
Probably, and given the quality of previous submissions you're also probably guaranteed a Honorable Mention.
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>>153228202
Well yeah, same thing with how Japan don't call comics "manga"

Either call it Chinese Cartoons or anime, but not cartoon, that's not the same thing
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>>153228202
>picture
Fuck you too, Japan.
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>>153228682
I doubt it's any good if someone spent years drawing something and never released it.
I'll prove you wrong only if you give me the succ
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just flip any western comic and it becomes manga
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>>153224433

If you're asking if they can capture the same atmosphere, the Japanese language is the key. Monolinguals don't realize just how much of an impact language has on artistic expression. From my experience, it's most pronounced in music (translations of lyrics are basically always butchering the song), but it has a heavy impact on storytelling in general, too.

Whether a native English speaker is capable of making the jump to a level sufficient to be a good writer is dependent on their ability to learn Japanese.
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What about mexican manga?
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>>153234272
I really enjoy Asterixu and his friend Obelixu ~desu~
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This is the Mexican Jojo
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>>153224433
In France it's common, since French buy lot more Manga than American. However they often move to Japan when they become famous
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There's this Russian dude Ilya Kuvshinov who's moved to Japan and is now making his own manga. He also has a pretty good and distinct style, look him up.
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>>153224433
Comic culture is not as big in north america, so there's no market for it.
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>>153228451
What is this
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>>153227913
To be an author of a meme?
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>>153233304
>being an axis member that nobody cares
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>>153227913
dunno but it happened with withblade irrc
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oneshot by burgerlander published in shonen jump

https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/10833497643049549905
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What if you pretend to be the translator for this sugoi sanurai man but its just your work?
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>>153235450
Traces his art too, but weebs don't care.
>>153235661
http://devilscandycomic.com
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>>153235450
His rendering looks nice when he draws heads and traces other people's pictures but as for seuential art he's terrible.
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>>153241977
*sequential
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>>153227913
>Ninja Slayer was originally posted piece by piece on Twitter by Japanese "translators" Honda Yu and Sugi Leika, allegedly adapting the story from American authors "Bradley Bond and Philip "Ninj@" Morzez". After the series grew in popularity, Enterbrain published the first Japanese-translated volume in print, Ninja Slayer: Neo-Saitama in Flames, in September 2012. There appears to be no evidence of an original copy of Ninja Slayer, and the original creators "Bradley Bond and Philip Ninj@ Morzez" appear to be fictional authors created to produce the illusion of an elaborate backstory, and have no record of an accurate bio.
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