>Ghost in the Shell >the next-gen Matrix Jesus Christ,

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>>153200818
>next gen
But it was there before Matrix.

>all those remakes and capeshit
Is Hollywood finished? They are so out of ideas they have gone to Japan for original movie ideas. Pathetic.

>>153200818
Nice ass

>film magazine
>literally only capeshit and fucking sci-fi

I'm pretty upset

>listen to the latest Doughboys podcast with Bobby Lee as the guest
>he bitches about how fucking impossible it is for an Asian-American actor to get hired and how Scarlett Johannsen is going to be the Major

The saddest part is that the Japanese don't care. Really, the only people that get shafted in this whole exchange is asian actors in the states.

>>153200865
the oldfags of the nips are too dead to care, and the newfags only care about their waifus.

>>153200865
It's canon that the major can take any appearance she wants.
So actor choice isn't a real issue.
People just love to bitch about everything.

>>153200818
People have been saying that the Matrix was influenced by Ghost In the Shell ever since The Matrix came. Then I finally watched the later and was surprised by how little there was in terms of an overt influence outside of the Wachowskis being weebs.

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>>153200818
>Adaptation of the movie that inspired the Matrix is now a "next-gen" Matrix

I have no words. Words fail me.

>>153200865
I'd rather take Scarlet Johanson than Sandra Oh

>"It's brutal... It's iconic"
Huh?

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>>153200818
>The smarter movie magazine

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Watch the film.
Do it for her.

>>153200818
More like Pork in the Shell.

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>>153201277
I will pirate it and never watch it.

>>153200865
major has a European body, the problem is the bitch's awful physique and worse acting
>>153201296

>>153200818
Blade Runner 2049

>>153200865
To be fair The Major is using a generic-looking body and Motoko isn't her real name, she's just some Jane Doe kid pulled out of a plane crash/ car crash and rebuilt by the japanese state.

>>153201149
Wasn't Matrix inspired by Dark City?

>>153201588
what? no, they came up at the same time.

>>153201588
http://www.whoinspired.com/wiki/The_Matrix_(franchise)

>>153200818
How would you explain Ghost in the Shell to the unenlightened masses in a sentence? Keep in mind they have no exposure to anime and the last remotely engaging movie they watched was Matrix.

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>>153200818
Who the fuck cares, all nips wanna be white anyway which is why they made anime in the first place.

Where's my Kyoani cinematic universe?
I want to see real action versions of Haruhi, Chitanda, Tamako, Kumiko, Mugi, Rika, Sento and the Frees teaming up to solve a world-threatening crisis.

>>153200818
>>153200836
They're talking specifically about the live action one you fucking autists. Movie's going to be an embarrassment either way.

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>>153202608
Here's IRL Mugi

>>153200818
As much as I don't care about this shitty live action, that genuinely annoys me.
Why are the media so fucking stupid, it hurts.

>>153202016
PORK
O
R
K

IN THE SHELL

>>153200865
Murricans just love to whine. You see the same shit with The Great Wall.
>murrica: waah whitewashing how dare they add a filthy white male in a film set in ancient china!
>china: oh, another big budget hollywood action movie with zhang yi mou directing, neat.

>>153202608
>KyoAni cinematic universe
>live action Haruhi, Chitanda, Kumiko, Kaname and the Frees joining forces to deal with a world-threatening crisis, ft. K-ON playing the theme songs
>A no fun allowed world government is going to enforce stricter education!
>That means fun stuff like club activities will be shut down! Bands will be shut down! No more eating cakes and drinking tea in classrooms!
>who are going to save the student and allow them to regain their TANOSHIII BUKATSU SEIKATSU?!

SOS-Dan Revival: You can(not) Tanoshii

Summer 2020

>>153200855
But thats literally the only film being made nowadays.

>>153202015
I wouldnt. I would just have them watch the movie and say "this inspired the matrix" and hopefully they would get it. Cant explain some of the animation and scenes in a way that would do them any justice, you just need to see it.

>>153200818
>literally the Matrix before the Matrix was a thing
>literally what the Matrix was based off
>"next - gen matrix"
Is this guy literally a teenager

This is better than I thought, at least they are taking the original work seriously. You dumb moeshits should get back to your loli shows.

>>153203784
More like Dork in the shell.

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Let's be honest we would rather see margot as motoko right?

>>153206324
Face, maybe. Body, yes.

>>153205643
>literally literally literally
You're the teenager here, anon.

>>153207199
Those are legit literal desu

>>153204418
>7/10 it is ok
>"Not enough Free fan service"- Weekly Fujoshi

>>153200818
I thought I was looking at a new Four Chan Magazine cover for a second.

>>153200865
I am bothered because that fucking jew nose Scarlett has

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>>153200818
>>153201277
>>153202016
Is she supposed to be attractive? I'm not seeing it at all.

>>153202015
Most millenials have seen or heard of Stand Alone Complex on Cartoon Network. GitS is not as niche as people make it out to be.

>>153200836
This

>>153201588
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromancer

>>153209500
I don't see the relation here.
Except dude hackers lmao and the incredibly autistic main characters

>>153209606
>cyberspace, a virtual reality dataspace called the "matrix"

>>153209673
it's the same name, so what?

>>153200818
Charlize Theoron or Kate Beckinsale would have made a better Major than ScarJo.

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>>153200865
The Major really doesn't look Japanese at all though. She's got a white person's profile and blue eyes, it's an artificial body.

>>153201588
No, but they shared a set. Specifically the one in the beginning of the first Matrix movie where Trinity is trying to get away from the suits.

>>153200865
The problem isn't that she's not Asian, it's that she's ugly and can't act.

>>153210117
>it's that she's ugly
this

>>153200865
>The saddest part is that the Japanese don't care.

The japanese don't care because they see gaijins playing with their intelectual property as monkeys playing with legos.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Escape+from+New+York&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia2P7Ng4HSAhXrJsAKHWBmCOwQ_AUICCgB&biw=1280&bih=667

Kek.

>>153212406
most of what i've seen is that they'll consider the hollywood action budget more than enough to make up for the shitty scripts

most asian-produced action movies have bad scripts anyway and shitty budgets, so it's only an improvement from what they would have gotten otherwise.

>>153212599

There's also the thing that Hollywood movies aren't made for western audiences first and foremost nowadays, seeing that the Chinese entertainment market always double down on profits in movies that flop hard in the USA.

So they can just half-ass everything and it will still be entertaining to chinese people who barely had something to eat 10 years ago and now can finally enjoy cinema.

>>153201476
>she's just some Jane Doe kid pulled out of a plane crash
I will never forgive Kenji Kamiyama for not going, at any point in time, "no people wait a sec I haven't understood any of this shit give me a sec so I can figure it out or have someone explain it to me, or maybe I should just not direct this since I haven't understood shit about it"

>>153200836
The Matrix is essentially Oshii's version of GITS but with Keanu Reeves. You shouldn't wonder why Hollywood is getting Matrix vibes out of yet another remake of Oshii's version of GITS.

>>153200887
Nips don't care because Hollywood is Japan and they have their own Japanese cinema so in their mind they're not lacking of representation.

They could not give less of a fuck about international box office unless one of their movies get international acclaim but otherwise it's icing on the cake.

>>153213883
>The Matrix is essentially Oshii's version of GITS but with Keanu Reeves
no because GitS is actually a good film, while the Matrix is a flick at best.

>>153200818
This is literally the anime that inspired the matrix lol

>>153214062
>no because GitS is actually a good film

Intention is irrelevant to result, anon.

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>>153200818
>Just give me that "grizzled desk sergeant nearing retirement that's too old for this shit" look f am

>>153210029
Fuck off. The Americans that entered police HQ in that movie were immediately recognized as caucasians and everyone gawked because they'd never seen any before. Please stop whitewashing Japanese characters

I'm more concerned with what they're doing with the story, setting and themes than whether the lead actress is white or Japanese. They can cast whoever the fuck they want. Motoko could be black for all I'd care. That's not what's important.

Then again, Scarlett looks like she's half asleep, so I can't really agree with her casting purely from an acting standpoint.

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>>153214847
>Motoko could be black for all I'd care.

t. mtv decoded

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How are they dealing with the fact that USA doesn't exist in GitS? I'm assuming the whole cast is american.

>>153208633
>Most milennials have heard of Stand Alone Complex
You couldn't be more wrong. Even the teen anime fan crowd doesn't know much about GiTS anymore.

>>153200818
>*BWOOOOOOM*
>In a world...
>*BWOOOOOOM*
>PEW PEW PEW BOOM
>...where machines walk among humans...
>BOOM PEW PEW
>*CAR CHASE*
>*BWOOOOOOM*
Great Hollywood anime adaptation, 10/10.

>>153200818
>its brutal
>its iconic
-Scarlett Johansson

>>153202608
> sit around in a cafe all day eating cake and the last episode is one of them going into diabetic shock and having to have a foot amputated

>>153206324
nobody knows who that is. You want someone who can act AND looks good

>>153213883
>>153214217
>ITT: people who have never heard of neuromancer

>>153202608
>Where's my Kyoani cinematic universe?

It's just cute fifteen year old girls doing cute things.

Might as well watch Disney channel or Dan Schneider shit.

>>153214999
I was going to agree with you, but I went to look and apparently toonami actually just started another run of SAC last week. Maybe some kids will see it before the movie and search out the original instead.

>>153215076
I do, unfortunately, as does everyone else who watched Suicide Squad, and there is going to be a lot of overlap for that movie and this one in terms of target audience. Actually a decent actor if you compare her to everyone else in the movie, but mostly eyecandy, which is essentially what Scarlett Johansson is.

>>153215168
List of things the Matrix and Neuromancer have in common:
literally autistic protagonist
cyberspace named "matrix"
"hackers"

>>153215025
>it's kino
-/tv/

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>>153215168
Kind of irrelevant when the Wachoskis pitched the Matrix as a live-action Ghost in the Shell (Oshii version).

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2009/oct/19/hollywood-ghost-in-the-shell

>When Larry and Andy Wachowski were pitching The Matrix to their producers, they played them a DVD of an 82-minute Japanese cartoon and said: "We wanna do that for real."

>>153215168
It's not that it's dissimliar to Neuromancer, it's just that Ghost in the Shell was literally the only reason the movie got made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q4L4PCo6kA

>>153215360
This was what I was going to post next

>>153215168
>I know William Gibsons so I will show it off on /a/ like a facking hispter faggot

>>153215253
> SS
> That flop of a film

no wonder nobody knows who she is. Scarjo on the other hand has played in far more notable films

>>153215446
why are you this triggered

>>153215649
>flop
>one of the best-selling films of 2016

How do you define "flop" exactly?

It looks like a shot-for-shot remake of the original.

>>153217327
It's only because that's exactly what it is.

It's as superfluous and gratuitous as the Hollywood version of Old Boy.

>>153210029
Nobody in anime looks remotely Japanese. Only the titular Aku no Hana made their characters look Japy by using rotoscoping.

>>153200836
It's worse than that, the Wachowskis cited GITS as an inspiration for the Matrix

>>153217327
that fucking sucks

Gits 1995 was garbage

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>>153215168
Gibson is a fucking hack who had an interesting novel that lots of things did better in the subsequent 20 years.

>>153218494
No healthy person in Japan is that ugly, there are substantial issues with the actual tracing and casting of that rotoscoped nightmare.

>>153200865

The real issue is that ScarJo is entirely unconvincing in an action roll.

>>153219470

>roll

I am a mong.

Are any of the GitS anime any good?

>>153219776
The 1995 movie and both gigs of SAC, some people like Innocence as well but I didn't think it was anything special.

Everything else is awful.

>>153200818
>the original matrix was inspired by the ghost in the shell movie
>now the new ghost in the shell movie is supposedly inspired by the matrix
Anyhow the movie is a mistake.

>>153219509
No she can't do action rolls either

>>153200865
The major has big light blue eyes and no clear Asian features other than black hair. The issues lies in who they cast, not who wasn't cast.

>>153200818
>Dumbass normalfags say something stupid
>Better make a thread on /a/ about it
When will this trend come to an end?

>>153201300

I will pirate it, watch it on mute and in 2x speed only to take screencaps of the backgrounds otherwise I'll just hit the forward arrow and skip any semblance of character interaction and/or story.

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>>153220482
>backgrounds
for what purpose
the whole movie is filled with awful gray CGI

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just found out this was a thing from an ad. so excited.

>>153220630
why would you post this

>>153220570

I use them for reference at work.
Plus every scifi movie is bound to have at least a few good shots.

Did the same with Lost in Translation, good god I cant tolerate that ho.

>>153200865
Maybe if Bobby Lee had a better resume
>hardly know at stand-up
>Mad TV
>Key and Peele
>Pineapple Express

What else am I missing?

>>153220887
At least she was attractive back then, literally nothing going for her now

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>>153221364
>2017
>still getting mad over this

>>153204382
>another big budget hollywood action movie
But that's wrong

>>153214678
Who the fuck cares? You sound like a SJW.

>>153221364
What's the problem?

>>153215360
>1998
>ghost in the shell DVD
something seems fishy here

>>153221784
silencer clip cartoon comic gaschambers

>>153200818
>Alien: Covenant
>Blade Runner 2049

Cool.

>>153221803
The first American DVD version was released in 1998

>>153222730
Gonna need sauce on that, wikipedia says that the JP DVD wasn't even release until 2004

>>153222730
>>153222764
oops nvm found a listing of it on amazon

Are normalfags going to be pretend weaboos for a while if this movie becomes popular? I'm really hoping everyone forgets it the day after it is released.

>>153222970
It's been a while, isn't he a feeble cripple sitting inside the tower or something?

>>153222970

This will probably happen. Normies who never cared about anime or the franchise will watch the original then pretend they were experts all along picking faults with the American version.

And I'm pretty sure we never actually see or hear Sauron in the novels.

>>153223014

Aren't you confusing LOTRs with His Dark MAterials?

>>153223094
>Aren't you confusing LOTRs with His Dark MAterials?
Pretty sure it was in there too

>>153223094
That's honestly ok.
Because the original GitS is a good film and there is no way a shitty hollywood action flick by noname staff could possibly be anything but passable.

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Why she wasnt picked anon?

>>153224383
because she looks nothing like the major and isn't marketable

>>153224383
geez i wonder why...
not scarlet johanson enough

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>>153224452

>she looks nothing like the major
pic related neither, your argument is invalid.

Why Asians cannot be major
>midget
>ugly
>weak jaw
>big head
>short legs
>cannot speaku engrishu

>>153224571
notice the second half of what I posted, dumbfuck. In the eyes of film producers Marketability>resemblance>nothing, meaning whoever has the best selling power wins even if they have nothing else going for them.

>the average American won't see it because they don't know Ghost in the Shell
>anime fans won't see it because they cast a crappy actress as the Major

This movie is going to make like 5 dollars in the box office.

>s-she's fat

>>153224736
The trailer on Youtube has 20 000 000 views. I think a lot of people will see it

>>153224698
if thats the case, they should get anyone with a huge fandom like some youtuber with million subscribers.

Your argument is still invalid.

>>153224698
SJ is an okish actress with better shape than pacific rim girl. They didnt pick PR girl cause most of the time, asian sucks balls at acting.

>>153224968
RETARD ALERT!!!

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>>153225071
>with better shape
maybe 14 years ago, but not now

>>153225173
Damn, I don't even think she's had any kids.

>>153225214
Blame jew DNA.

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>>153225173
>>153225173
>not now
>see pic related

NANI?!?!?!?!?

>>153215168
To be honest, Inception was a better adaptation of Neuromancer than GitS ever was.

>>153225302
Wearing lots of makeup and in favorable lighting, not to mention still not nearly as attractive as she used to be. Also a 4 year old image according to google.

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So... at the end of the day, if we take out marketeable from the ecuation, Was Rinko Kikuchi a better choice than SJ?

>>153225423
She looks nothing like Major either.

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>>153225302
Black hides your fat curves, you ought to know that anon.

>>153225450
I know, but neither Scarlet. I just can see how she can fit in the GitS universe after watching those trailers.

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>>153218494

>>153225423
Yes, but in the way that a a slightly larger CRT TV is better than a slightly smaller one

>>153225622
Not sure what you're trying to show with this picture of British and American soldiers

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So I fucking love this show, unresolved stories and all. What other shows have this kind of tone?

>>153225797
Cracker-ass peckernecks are usually explicitly marked as such in anime because the generic anime art style is assumed to be representative of Japanese people due to slant-eyed gooks being the default person in Japan
This isn't a hard concept to grasp.

>>153225878
Then why do the Japanese people that show up in the latter part of this scene look exactly the same save for the uniforms?

>>153225423

Major doesnt look like that either.
The point is that the Major looks like a doll, not asian but has very nice and marked facial features which scar-ho has only in the parts where its not needed(read- the jew nose).

>>153226135
It's almost as if no one should ever have tried to cast a doll for a live action movie

>>153226207

Well they could get a person with some similar features, I mean its not like there's no person who could pass for one.
They even screwed up the eye color and the hair is just SJW tier.

>>153218555
Shit man inspiration is pretty lenient, there's scenes in the matrix that are a beat for beat rip off of GITS.

>a live-action adaptation of an anime takes cues from another movie inspired by the original anime

Is this a modern day case of The Thief and the Cobbler and Aladdin?

>>153219861
Even the manga?

>>153218677
>>153215168
I can attest to this. Been following his twitter for laughs the last year.

It's even worse in that people say his last books is pretty good. But he literally never speaks about science fiction or anyhting. He dedicates like an hour or more every day just to bashing Trump.

This guy REALLY wants his dystopia.

>>153226420
I've heard this before but never really seen it myself, which scenes in particular are you talking about.

>>153226689
Anon asked about anime, so I meant more that every Arise-based entry is garbage. The manga is OK but the art and story aren't the most interesting thing I've ever seen and most of the sci fi is stuff I've already though about before so I don't get a whole lot out of it.

>>153226901
At least he's witty about being an idiot and isn't fucking Neil Gaiman.

>>153226880
>"Stop complaining about my god emperor!"
Go fuck yourself, /pol/. You're as bad as them

>>153227219
>I really wish this sci fi author would stop bitching about everything the politician he didn't back does
>fuck off back to pol faggot with your god emperor hurr hurr
idiot

>>153218555
It's even more than that. In their pitch to sell The Matrix, they showed the studio execs clips from GITS and told them "We want to make THIS."

>>153217171
By not being near as good as any of the Marvel movies.
Barely making 700 million when all Marvel movies are making 1billion+
Box office money doesn't make it a good movie. It's still a colossal pile of shit and Margot Robbie was fucking terrible as Harley Quinn and couldn't keep her accent consistent.

Why is this allowed? Yes the film will suck, best to not generate attention.The less people know, the less sales, the lass chance of a sequel to bastardize it further. We have the good ones thats what matters.