So apparently even Toei supports the "goku iz bad family

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Chi Chi doesn't give a fuck about Goku either

>>153180928
they're perfect for eachother then :)

That's true though. I was watching the rerun of the Buu saga on Saturday and Goku talks about how he's excited to come back for a day to take part in the latest tournament, and it occurred to me that he had a nine year old kid he hadn't even met yet and didn't consider using that one day back on.

>>153180741
>but for Gohan unless he went away for 9 months for whatever reason there's no fucking way

Especially since this was back in the day where Goku was actually a good father and husband. It's said during the reunion on Roshi's island before Radditz comes that Goku didn't really do any serious training during the previous five years and that he was a little restless because of it (ie he put Chichi and Gohan above his own wishes and feelings).

>>153180741
I think it emphasizes the fact that he's just a big dumb kid

>>153180928

Why the shit would she? Goku had demonstrated he's more than capable of taking care of himself. Gohan was four.

>>153181307
He didn't even know Goten existed to be entirely fair.

>>153180928
She was a different girl in DB. While Bulma has matured very well and has become a quite nice woman and mother, Chi-chi is almost an nonexistent character. The only time she acts as a wife is when Goku is in danger because of his heart. Anyways, Goku became a millionaire thanks to the gift from Satan. Chi-chi has no reason to complain now.

>>153181326
>he put Chichi and Gohan above his own wishes and feelings
and Gohan repaid him by being a a disappointment

It's not a meme when it's true.

>>153181444
She already used up all the money.

Truly, the worst wife in the show.

>>153181525
>She already used up all the money.

The fuck? They were a lot of money.

>>153180741
>Bulma is almost 50 and pregnancy at that age can be really dangerous

>>153180741
Use the catalog retard >>153175295

>>153181444
However, I have the feeling that the Goku in Super is a bit 'different from the one written by Toiryama in the manga. In the manga did the good father whenever he could, but then, for one reason or another, the Earth was always in danger.

>>153180741
Good thing this show isn't about family. It's about martial arts.

>>153181724
Bulma has 38-40 in Super.

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>>153180741
>it's a DBZAOTA shitposts on /a/ episode

>>153180928
This part always pissed me off. Goku was still a good/decent father at this point in the series and literally just got back from being dead for a year.

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>>153181820
>However, I have the feeling that the Goku in Super is a bit 'different from the one written by Toiryama in the manga.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Flanderization

Read the DBS manga, Toei Goku a shit.

>>153181724
>implying Bulma doesn't have some kind of bullshit science that she can use to get around any kind of pregnancy dangers

>>153181525
Chichi is truly a tragic story, had he not married Goku she could've opened up a dojo or a gym together with a better husband and live a happy life training pupils and her own kids to be warriors.
The whole "STUDY DO NOT FIGHT" shit probably comes from her hidden hatred for her own husband, basically she's telling them "Don't become like that piece of shit of your father and actually lead a happy life" and honestly while we crack jokes at Gohan, he's rich, married a good woman and he's raising a family away from all the stupid shit happening around Goku.

>>153181992
>>153180928
Really?
She's running to her half beaten to death 4 year old child.
That certainly takes priority over the man who let him go there in the first place.

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>>153181738

>>153182306
I can understand this is the first time she saw Gohan in a year and she'd be worried about him.

I don't like how she doesn't even give a shit about Goku at all during this point, though. Goku even told Gohan to get out of there while he fought Vegeta. He literally couldn't do anything to make his son go away given that every bone in his body was broken.

>>153182027
There's not even much of a danger in your 50s unless you're unhealthy.

>>153181896
She's definitely older than that. Let's see...

Beginning of Dragon Ball: 16
21st Budokai: 17
22nd Budokai: 20
23rd Budokai: 23
Radditz: 28
Saiyan arc/Namek: 29
Return of Freeza: 30
Cell saga: 33
Buu: 40

She should be 46 at this point in Super.

>>153181496
>disappointment
>living his dream
>has a successful life
anon pls

>>153180928
I don't blame her for this one.
Goku may be very beaten, but he loves fighting and getting beaten like that after a hard fight.
Gohan on the other hand was just a 5 year old who doesn't even like fighting, was beaten too and he was unconscious to boot.
It is kinda shitty, but I can understand why gohan was her top priority.

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>>153180928
>this happens
>yajirobe actually speaks for the audience: "Man, Goku, your wife is crazy"

And people say that Chi-Chi hate is a fan meme. Toriyama doesn't like her; Toei doesn't like her. She's not meant to be likable. She's a one note gag who showed signs of becoming an actual character through some now rewound and forgotten development from the Buu Saga (mellowing out and teaching Goten to fight).

>>153182152
Chi Chi does actually love Goku, she just thinks he's way too laid back and wishes he'd put more effort into raising his family and job as a farmer. It's a shame that an old hentai comic set in the ten days before the Cell Games of all things got her personality right.

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goku is the devil, how is that no obvious?

>>153183179
> gets sent to earth
> immediately begins killing the strongest people
> puts the others indebt to him
> kills saiyans as they come
> kills frieza
> kills everyone
> kill
> kill
> kill
domesticates earth, has proginy, earth is his.

>>153182023
>Tvtropes
kys

>>153183108
I think fans hate ChiChi mostly because she unintentionally destroyed any chances of Goku marrying Bulma at the end of Dragonball.

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>>153183179
THE WEAK ARE CONSUMED

>>153183252
and most importantly, he clearly
>uses naivety as a cover

>>153181393
Thanks to King Kai or Fortuneteller Baba, he can literally talk to his wife or Gohan any time he wanted in those 7 years, the fact that he didn't know about Goten must mean he never bothered contacting them.

>>153183285
Are you joking because nobody likes Bulma

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>>153182152
Except Chi Chi herself recognized her children should know how to fight when Goten was born and Goku wasn't around to train him, so she teached him the basics and the Gohan took over.

Gohan may be happy, but even then he reconized the danger of one day Goku might not be around to save everyone and his family and Gohan can't fill the gap his father might leave since he is seriously lagging behind.

absolute power corrupts absolutely. even if vegeta were a good guy, and took on goku because he's bad, vegeta would get raped.

>>153181525
She lets it slip that she still has the money in an episode after that one. Might be even worse though, she's telling Goku that they're broke and that he needs to earn a living when there's still money left.

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>>153183108
Yajirobe was so fuckign based whenever he was on screen, you could tell Toriyama had a soft spot for him, I wish the humans were relevant again

>>153183285
Nah that's just a minority of shipfaggotry shitposters, she's just a terrible character some of the filler in the anime actually makes her a bit more likeable

>>153183404

>I wish the non-saiyans were relevant again

Fixed that for you. It's not like Piccolo is relevant these days either.

>>153182932
Gohan himself thought not too long ago he is scared of what may happen to Videl and Pan if one day Goku can't be there to save their asses.

>>153182932
Gohan is a huge dissapointment from Goku's perspective. All his sons are, that's why he left with the poo in the loo

>>153180741
Saiyans are in the mesolithic in terms of family meaning the men raped all the women who raised the kids on their own sound familiar to you.

>>153182027
What's stopping Bulma from just gathering the Dragon Balls every few years and rejuvenating herself? Pilaf Gang proved that you can just wish to be younger with no negative consequences. In fact all of the main cast should be doing this, it solves the problem of needing to train a new generation to take over defending the Earth.

>>153183404
I disagree, that one hentai comic when she had sex with Super Saiyan Goku did more to make her likeable than the anime.

>>153183370
I honestly think Gohan as hero would be a mix of slice of life with adventures.

>>153183108
I honestly don't think it is that strange though.
I mean what kind of mother would be okay with her 5 year old child to fight some death match against alien for the fate of their planet even if that child is one if the few people who can do that.

>>153181525
>feeding goku
>not expensive as fuck
If you've seen Goku eat, makes sense that they'd be broke now. Remember that first tournament way back in dragon ball? Goku ate the whole prize money's worth when they went to that one restaurant in one sitting.

>>153182023
>good dad
More like good friend.
Amirite?

>>153183543
>I honestly think Gohan as hero would be a mix of slice of life with adventures.
That was probably what Toriyama was going for during the start of the Buu saga but he was cockblocked by his editor yet again

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>>153183353
>invents dragon radar
>invents time machine
>helps repair a faster than light drive that allowed the Z-Warriors to go to Namek

Bulma is the single most useful human in Dragon Ball and arguably the most useful character. Without her Goku stays in the mountains until Raditz arrives or they end up getting rocked by the Androids. Good friend, too; even the truck Goku uses to run his farming business was a gift from Bulma.

>>153183541
Bulma already has god tier genetics, to the point that her pussy feels nice and tight after having Trunks and being in her mid forties.

>>153183469
Gohan lives in a multiverse where only fighters matter so yes he's a disappointment.

>>153183619
>but he was cockblocked by his editor yet again
He wasn't cockblocked, he said that he just gave up and prefered to bring Goku back.

>>153183619
He figured Gohan would be a boring MC.

>>153183619
No he wasn't. He found that he couldn'twrite Gohan as a protagonist so he brought back the guy who was the protagonist for years. Come on don't lie Gohanfag

>>153183664

Well, the last major threat wasn't really solved by fighting it.

>>153183635
Fug anyone railing that is the luckiest man on earth. Jealous of you Vegeta and I guess yamcha beforw the saiyan saga.

>>153183700
I think he made the right call. For the slice of life stuff that the Buu arc started with, Gohan's an enjoyable enough MC. But DB's a story about fighting.

Gohan's too "no nonsense", and would make for a boring protagonist. He wouldn't endanger everyone for a thrilling battle. He'd just take the pragmatic approach each time.

>>153183700
>>153183735
I think the problem is that Gohan is too dorky to be the MC, or that he acted similar to Goku in the Buu Saga.

>>153183635
>In the manga from the start
>Can barely beat Dende
thanks for proving my point

>The first new interview translation comes from the January 1997 issue (“Issue 3.01”) of the initial Japanese edition of WIRED magazine, which ran for a little less than four years from 1994 to 1998; it now exists as a special quarterly issue of the Japanese edition of GQ, relaunched in 2011. In addition to translations of articles from its American equivalent, it also had Japan-original material, and for their second-anniversary issue (published 21 November 1996), they had a special two-page interview with the man himself. This is notable principally for two things: being published during the time that Dragon Ball GT was still on the air, and Toriyama’s comments on Goku’s personality, which he repeated nearly verbatim 17 years later in the run-up to Battle of Gods (see below).

There’s how, basically, Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others, but because he wants to fight against strong guys. So once Dragon Ball got animated, at any rate, I’ve always been dissatisfied with the “righteous hero”-type portrayal they gave him. I guess I couldn’t quite get them to grasp the elements of “poison” that slip in and out of sight among the shadows.

what the hell toriyama?

>>153183824
What do you mean by that. Toriyama created the best shonen protagonist.

>>153182665
Very high risk of your child having some kind of retardation.

>>153183541
>Bulma wishes for youth
>gets reverted back to loli form
>vegeta now has a loli wife

>>153183858
Goku is not an asshole, he is a hero. He loves his family and to fight for the world.

>>153183808
One place below Cell and above every human other than Krillin, despite not even being a fighter.

Since Goku is a failure of a husband and a father why doesn't she divorce his ass?

>>153183635
Why in gods name did they fuck Gohan up by making him into goku lite?

And I still think Toriyama should have just brought in some aliens or mad scientists for him to fight instead of doing the silly saiyaman thing.
I know he was worn the fuck out from the Cell saga but...damn.

>>153183888
Classic weeb americuck opinion

>>153183888
But Goku was based off the Monkey King, who wasn't a righteous hero in the legends.

>>153180928

Her child is naked and being held by a bald midget

>>153183911
Because Goku is chad

>>153183911
Divorce is kinda frowned upon in some asian cultures. Remember that she's some sort of chinese type pricess and Ox King used to rule over a region.

>>153183937
This is why I don't like Super, why did Toriyama decided to make Goku a selfish dude.

>>153183866
Haven't ever heard of any risks until the woman is in her 60s.

>>153183927
Gohan is one of the few characters in fiction who actually idolizes his father, and actually wants to be strong like him.

>>153183987
He's always been selfish.

>>153183987
Goku was selfish from day one

>>153183987
Goku was always supposed to be a bit of a selfish dude, according to Toriyama.

Except that Toriyama made Goku too nice in the original Dragon Ball run.

>>153184038
The fuck? Minor risks are possible as soon as a woman reaches 40.

Many women can't even get pregnant in their 60's anymore.

You filthy ningens.

Vegeta has become a ningen too.

Goku is getting closer to become a god.
Such ningen issues doesn't matter to him.

Whis also repeated what Goku has said.


Get gud and become a God
or become Vegeta and be a Cuck.

>>153183987
He's always been like that to an extent. Remember, he let a lot of the guys that were a threat live, he didn't kill them when he had the chance or let them power up completely thus putting the world/wherever he was at in danger so he could fight them at their full. That was for himself. Not saying that Goku is totally evil, but any person in their right mind would get rid of/neutralize a threat as soon as they get the chance.

>>153184038
60s is menopause. 35+ is when problems start growing exponentially. Both for males and females.

>>153184139
Admittedly I don't know all that much about pregnancy, but I know quite a few women that had kids in their 40s and they're just fine.

>>153183987
As he grew older he began to care only for fighting. He spared Piccolo, Vegeta, and Frieza so he could fight them again. He shed a tear when he "killed" Frieza because Frieza was the only one who could match. The only reason he didn't care about Cell was because his son was strong so he could have all the thrilling fights he wanted. He asked Yemma to reincarnate buu so he could him again. I rest my case.

>>153184079
Is that why he Idolizes piccolo so much?

>>153183824
I thought this interview was more recent; like 2015 recent. This makes Super Goku feel like a bit less of an asspull since he said this back in 1997, though this isn't really consistent with how he actually wrote Goku either. Goku's been regularly fighting for the sake of others ever since Bora died. Then it was later revealed that he was a saiyan, and in Super this has overtaken everything else.

>>153184038
There are risks when you're thirty idiot. Unless you want retarded kids I'd advise you to it at least by your mid twenties

>>153184209
Outliers exist anon
>>153184244
He wears Goku's gi

>>153184219
He spared Frieza because he thought shattering the space tyrants ego and letting him live with the shame of being defeated by a low class warrior was a better punishment than killing Frieza outright.

>>153184209
There's a chance of around 1 in 40 that the kid will be retarded when the mother is in her 40s.

>>153184301
Look at the page where does it. He has a sad face. Also he straight up said he was bored because Frieza tired quickly

>>153181992

Are you mental? A mom is always going to prioritize her child over her husband.

>>153184342
At best, Bra will have average intelligence because Bulma's womb is good enough to halt the retardation.

>>153184407
>prioritize
She ignored Goku

>>153182815
We might get a Bra with Down syndrome since Bulma is in her 40's as a Toei Recon.

>>153184442
Who cares she'll be as relevant as Pan

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>>153183404
>I wish the humans were relevant again
You mean like an arc where characters like Krillin, Roshi, Tien, 17, and 18 will have major supporting roles? I wonder if that will ever happen.

>>153180741
>ignoring the fact Bulma is almost 50 and pregnancy at that age can be really dangerous. I'm like... come the fuck on, aren't you two close friends

This is reaching.

>>153183911
He got that saiyan dick.

Vegeta turned the worlds most notorious whore and probably smartest woman in the galaxy into being his personal cocksleeve and a chaste and pure housewife in a single night of probable rape.

I mean she raped him, Veg was probably a virgin.
Which quickly turned into a full night of him fucking her half to death while she begged futilely for mercy.


Videl? Crazy cunt who was three women's studies courses away from being a violent murderous man hating dyke.
After one night he turned her into Videl-sama. The perfect japanese housewife.

>>153184486
Goku was a grown ass man that can take care of himself and as far as chichi knew Gohan was just a 4-5 year old. Any sane person seeing their 4 year old child like that would prioritize the child over the grown-ass man who can take care of himself.

Goku is just retarded, it's not his fault

People act like Goku is comparable to Gendo when hes really not

>>153180741
it's not a meme, Toriyama intervies confirm it.

>>153180741
>ignoring the fact Bulma is almost 50 and pregnancy at that age can be really dangerous
Exactly when would Goku have ever studied enough biology to learn that there's an age where pregnancy is dangerous for a woman?

>>153184556
>Videl? Crazy cunt who was three women's studies courses away from being a violent murderous man hating dyke.

She has Satan as her dad. Satan was a conman with few redeeming qualities until he met Buu.

>>153184533
>Implying they won't job

>>153184580
Back then
>Goku is not retarded. He's really smart when it comes to fighting
Now
>Goku's impatient ass puts the 12 universes in danger despite being warned
Goku is retarded cut him some slack.

>>153184569
All his bones were broken

>>153184580
It's just a meme taken too far because of people projecting their daddy issues onto Goku

>>153183654
Confirmed canon

>>153184627
He won the world martial tournament fairly. His only con was Cell

>>153184775
Doesn't matter a child is always proritized over the adult in aparent's eyes. It's human nature. This stems from kids that age not being able to defend themselves from a dangerous threat while adults have a chance to doso and as far as chichi this is the case.

The Dragon Radar never actually worked. In the end it was Goku's heart that led them to the dragon balls

>>153184588
source?

>>153184627
Satan is actually fairly strong. If he showed up in early DB and have placed highly. If he learned a little bit of basic ki he'd have been an actual threat.

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>>153184219
Goku spared Frieza because he begged for his life. Frieza took advantage of Goku's empathy and softheartedness so Goku spared him despite being disgusted with Frieza on a moral level.

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>>153184970
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4RmbN06_uU
He mentions the quote somewhere around 4:45. Basically Goku doesn't even see his wife and son as family but as bros.
>Inb4 meme youtube celebrity
Yeah, but it's from a Kanzenshuu and I don't own it.

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>>153185111
>RIP I wanted to fight him again
His face says it all

>>153185172
>Basically Goku doesn't even see his wife and son as family but as bros.
Every Saiyan does this. Vegeta is different because he's a disgrace

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>>153185257
>Vegeta is different because he's royalty
The more likely answer. He's always going on about being the prince of all saiyans so he's probably concerned with having a decent heir. Saiyan kings (and nobility, if they even exist?) probably have a stronger sense of family. Perhaps not love but certainly familial pride.

>>153185411
No Vegeta's different because Frieza bullied him

>>153185257
>>153185411

Dragon Ball Minus was shit but was written by Toriyaman, Bardock and Gine loved each other romantically.

>>153185172
>Basically Goku doesn't even see his wife and son as family but as bros.
I don't mean to make an excuse for Goku but I feel like this is because he didn't know/get to experience much with family before starting his own.
If you go with anime canon, Goku never knew either of his parents and didn't seem like he got much family experience with Gohan besides martial arts training.
I think even with the official canon it's still the same more or less.

Compared to Vegeta, who seems like he knew his father and probably mother more before Planet Vegeta blew up

>>153185493
>Vegeta
A jobber who lived most of life under Frieza's heel
>Bardock and Gine
Low level trash and Toriyama said he liked Toei Bardock better
>Goku
A literal Chad and the legendary Super Saiyan that every Saiyan would look up too

>>153185573
Nah Goku loved Grandpa Gohan. Notice how Toriyama specifically mentioned Chi Chi and Gohan. Also Goku likes Goten

>>153185645
Toriyama forgot Goten

>>153185645
Can't blame him. He's just fusion material for trunks

>>153184849
>>153184984
He was fairly strong, but he stopped training and started partying while coasting off past glory.

Doing that would piss off anyone who wanted to take martial arts seriously, and if you are family that sees him get weaker every day, you'd loathe his guts too.

>>153184874
Shut up, Chi Chi

>>153185722
Meant for >>153185666

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How did we go from this...

Vegeta's new rival is a teletubby. Just put an end to him already

>>153181656
Shit for Goten. Meanwhile Goku spent alot on hiring Hit for the fight.

They are both fucking mongaloidanators.

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>>153185779
to this.

>>153185820
He stopped lifting weights and started lifting books

>>153185820
I don't see the problem. He was always a nerd.

>>153185820
He inherited Chi Chi's genes while Goten inherited the Chad genes

>>153185779
Chadhan
>>153185820
Cuckhan

>>153181525
She didn't use up the money, she just said she did to keep Goku from staying a bum.

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>>153185853
You know, if he actually lifted books he could've remained pretty buff. I bet he just reads ebooks on his tablet like a prissy faggot.

I'm pretty sure Piccolo got Gohan back to his old strength with the help of a DAILY DOSE of supplements.

>>153184130
You can still be a nice guy and selfish.

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>>153183458
Not even half-saiyans are making the cut anymore.
Not unless you've got certain "qualities" like Future Trunks does.

>>153186220
She probably did it every time he went to the past.

>>153186220
>6.The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

>>153186195
thanks doc

>>153186358
it's a important question

>>153184984
>If he showed up in early DB and have placed highly.
No, he fucking wouldn't.
Goku at his weakest in the series could perform a Kamehameha and could break 3 bricks with one finger and lift up a small car over his head.
He would have been demolished if he joined the tournament just like that. Did everyone forget about Goku and Nam jumping into the sky to fight? Mr. Satan wouldn't make it out of the preliminaries

Don't get me wrong. Mr. Satan could beat the shit out of you or I, but he's no match for Dragonball characters

>>153186358
>gets bothered by a post that is just as shitty as the rest of the thread

>>153182306
He didn't let him go there. He was dead.
Besides that, it's supposed to be funny, because that's not the normal reaction a wife would have.

I think part of the problem is that DBZ has weird un-humanlike relationships that we're not supposed to take too seriously, but we do anyway and that the writers clearly don't give a shit as long as the characters don't flip over into evil, they can make the character as bland as possible despite the implications of their behaviour.


Honestly, it's kind of depressing to me that they're going out of their way to make Goku this ignorant selfish piece of shit while trying to portray him with a heart of gold.

>>153183285
This is shipping revisonist history.
Before we desperately needed more Saiyan, Bulma and Yamcha were a thing to the point that even the voice actors were surprised about what happened.

>>153182815
Super's that far ahead? Why have Goten and Trunks not aged? Trunks aged in the apocalypse timeline.

>>153180741
>He said nothing about gohan so that implies he wasn't around for his either.
Stop, you're as bad as the faggots who think him and chichi never kissed.

>>153183285
I hate Chichi because she's an insufferable cunt. I never wanted Goku to end up with Bulma.

>>153180741
When Goku was dead Chi Chi spoiled Goten and allowed him to do whatever he wanted but when Goku came back it was study time. Goku was just looking out for his second and favorite son

>>153185201
The Anime changed this.

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>>153186358
>thinks posting rules contributes to the quality of anything

next you'll tell me that a window is closing in 3 seconds

>>153186220
They must be fucking a lot since they arrived in the new timeline, so she won't need to do that anymore.

>>153186907
you left out a few million zeros.

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Reminder Toei Goku a shit

>>153186878
Yeah I know since Toriyama complained about him being a "hero" in the anime

>"goku being a bad dad is a meme" meme

>>153186949
the real number of innocent lives
http://www.googolplexwrittenout.com/volume999999999999999999999875092739999999999999142999999999999999999999999999559999999999.pdf

>>153186952
Reminder that Toyo doesn't get Goku's character

>>153187021
>typo on page 196
can't unsee

>>153186952
Reminder you need to stop reposting the same thing like a ningen

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>>153186656
>Stop, you're as bad as the faggots who think him and chichi never kissed
Fucking denialfag.

>>153186654
Super is in Age 780, the same year Gohan was killed by the Androids

>>153187078
He meant give someone a senzu bean through kissing. Goddamn I can't believe there are retards who don't understand Toriyams's jokes

>>153185783
Destroy tumblr first.

>>153181525
She didn't. She said she did to make Goku work.

>>153187130
No, he didn't. You are so much in denial that you're making up shitty excuses.

>>153184969
Well that doesn't matter now.
Nice 69 btw

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>>153187038
Good thing Toriyama does.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579

>Every month, I'll create a storyboard for him to review, and then he'll give me input and suggest changes.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>Speaking of the manga, I want to ask you two about how you put the manga together. I hear Toriyama-sensei checks the storyboards for each chapter.
>Toriyama: That’s right.

>Back when Toriyama-sensei was drawing the manga, the animators would use his manga panels as reference, imitating the composition and things like that. And now it seems that the animators are likewise using Toyotaro-sensei‘s manga as reference.
>Toriyama: Oh, that’s good! That should keep them on track!

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>>153187130

To all the retards bitching about Chi Chi, asian mother try to make their sons and daughters high achievers.

>>153184533
Where is my boi Yamcha?

>>153187130
Goku asked Vegeta what he meant and Vegeta said "kiss", to which Goku replied "of course not." Not really sure how much more specific you can get.

>>153184612
POST BUCKLEY

>>153183808
She invented a long lasting drug that causes voice activated diarrhea, before she was even a teenager, and has created a time machine, something the gods thought impossible for mortals to do.

She doesn't need to be able to fight, she's still the single most dangerous being in all of U7.

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Gohan don't disappointment me I need something better than this

>>153187130
There's literally nothing in that page that suggests that Goku thought about bird feeding someone.

>>153187100
So they just forgot to age up Trunks and Goten?

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>>153187284
They didn't forget, they just don't want to age them up.

Why do people think this is better than GT?

I'll never understand Chi-Chi defenders.

1. Yes, Goku takes things to the extreme with always training/fighting, never holding a job, and putting their kids at risk and not raising them. But she's just a different extreme with her no fighting, no playing, no ANYTHING she doesn't approve of, just forcing endless studying on her kids to get a well paying, but soul crushing job when her kids grow up. Which, even after they do, she will still try to control their lives well into adulthood.

2. She knew full well what she was getting into when she married Goku, and still went through with it. Not defending Goku's actions, but she choose to marry him. She's lucky Goku listens to her as much as he does.

3. If she had gotten her way, the earth would have been destroyed how many times now?

>>153187284
>age up Trunks and Goten?

Another thing GT did right.

>>153183866
well she's half sayian so I wouldn't worry to much.

>>153187281
>Goku thought about bird feeding someone.
Except for him looking at Trunks bird feeding Mai?

>>153182815
>>153184442
>>153184527
>Toei's continual inspiration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljkju8b43P0

>>153187232

Ages of characters are so messed up in Super. Years are supposed to have passed since Buu, but Goten and Trunks don't seem, look, or act like they've aged at all, but Gohan and Videl are married and not in high school. Not to mention Vegeta and Goku spent months or even a year or 2 in the hyperbolic time chamber before the universe 6vs 7 tournament, but they apparently "age slower" because of their Saiyan DNA.

>>153187078
>goku banged the fuck out of chichi enough times to get two sons
>but never kissed her
the fuck?

>>153183888
goku is a fucking selfish asshole, he is willing to risk trillions of lives in the upcoming survival universe arc for a god-damn fight.

>>153187436
Read what he said. He was shocked because Trunks stick his lips up against Mai's.

>>153187417
Reminder that until Chi CHi became obnoxious Goku stopped training all the time and spent time Gohan and Chi Chi. I'm talking about the time between Piccolo jr and the Saiyan saga

Guys goku wanted to give the daifuku to bulms. And actually had an interaction with goten. He is not evil

>>153187167
>She said she did to make Goku work.
>making Goku do anything other than trainan and fightan

G-good luck with that.

>>153187450
Toriyama logic for aging is that they look like little kids and then become teens right after.

>>153187458
Goku is worth more than all those trillions of lives. He carries Dragon Ball on his back. Without him Super would be cancelled really fast

>>153187417
>But she's just a different extreme with her no fighting, no playing, no ANYTHING she doesn't approve of, just forcing endless studying on her kids to get a well paying, but soul crushing job when her kids grow up
Shes an asian woman.

>>153187452
that's the joke you retard

>>153187499
Goku's a successful farmer who gets paid a lot because he has top quality crops while Chi Chi just ruins Goten's life

>>153187547
That's not a joke, it's pure stupidity that never should have been written.

>>153187078
The better question is why is Vegeta blushing?

I still like chi chi fuck off with the hate
Goten and Gohan are both good in their own way
she might get triggered at first but chi chi always let goku go their own way

>>153187476
>>153187417
Reminder that Chichi is only a bitch because she had front row seats to watching the lover of her life get the shit beat out of him and almost killed just for the sake of doing so, and she doesn't want that for her child.

She also wasn't a bitch after Goku beat Piccolo jr, because Goku stopped with the martial arts saving world shit. And she was also lenient on Goten because Gohan was the strongest fighter, and she realized that they're in no danger.

That's all in DB-Z, Toei and Toyo continue to fuck up Chichi in GT and Super.

>>153183612
It can't be that costly to feed Goku.

There's still plenty of megafauna roaming on the planet, especially out in the sticks where they live. He can go murder a dinosaur and eat for at least a day or two.

>>153187452
He is alpha and likes to go straight to business.

>>153187452
foreplay is a beta meme

GUYZ THE LRRIGZ R FRIUM GOKOOS PERSPECTIVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CALWOA1FvXE

WHAT DID THEY MESAN BYB THIS?

>>153187452
Goku doesn't understand romance.

>>153187502
That can't be right. Gohan aged in between freiza and the cell saga. Not just him not having a bowlcut, but he clearly looks and acts differently. If years passed, Goten and Trunks in Super should be the same age as Gohan during the Cell saga.
Even if they are supposed to look the same age before they hit their teens, they definitely haven't matured at all.

>>153187702
and he never will

>>153187452
Chichi raped him.

>>153187576
He is moe.

>>153187625
Chi Chi didn't fully go to shit until the end of the Cell Games into the Buu saga

Gohan and Goten are failures who will never inherit Goku's place as a top fighter, meanwhile Trunks was solo fighting Brolic as a kid and as an adult he's fighting alongside goku and Vegeta.

>>153187452
i dont kiss women i fuck, it's gross.

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>>153187021
>volume ends on page 404

that cheeky fucker

>>153185820
Need to push the limp dicked salary man image to japanese youths and keep anyone who is a threat to goku being the lead out of the spotlight.

Take a look at Gohan in Dragon Ball Yo.

>>153187771
Gohan nor Goten give a shit about fighting because they are half human, Gohan only fought for moralfag reasons in DBZ to begin with not because HURR I WANT TO BE THE STRONGEST. Gohan is just too intelligent to care about being the strongest, I mean shit Hit is the strongest in his universe yet doesnt really give a shit about that title.

>>153187680
>>153187668
>those post
So that's why most of guys sucks trying to please properly a woman

>>153187219
Playing baseball.

He knows his role in life.

>>153187771
>meanwhile Trunks was solo fighting Brolic as a kid and as an adult he's fighting alongside goku and Vegeta.
Two completely different people.

Main Trunks grows up to be a another Gohan, and in GT he's a pussy ass loser.
Future Trunks is the one who fights alongside Goku and Vegeta, and now he's back in his own timeline with another copy of himself.

>>153187883
I'm not a guy anon.

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>>153187920

>>153187883
>pleasing women
Pointless, just focus on your pleasure and if she bitchs hit her in the face with your dick. Foreplay is done either by guys who had that as a fetish or betas, real men like to fuck immediately not build up shit.

>>153187410
Either really loyal nostalgia-fags whose first anime was GT.

Either really fucking tryhard hipsters.

GT is so bad that I see retards who whenever say GT is better don't even mean that GT is not shit. Those need to check a psychologist on Stockholm syndrome.

>>153186436
Yes, and Satan has that same amount of strength.

lets talk about how the lyrics are from gokus perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObhRlRT0_2E&index=28&list=PLGPTO6hM4gEeWBe_AjafNeFltUqzVksd1

>>153183635
>Without her Goku stays in the mountains until Raditz arrives or they end up getting rocked by the Androids.
There would be no androids, I think it would be more like
Without Bulma Pilaf would have encountered Goku and Roshi to try to steal their Dragon Balls. And in the case Pilaf failed the Red Ribbon would have tried to steal those DBs too. The real question is if Goku or Roshi would have go against the Red Ribbon army or not.

>>153187971
>Pointless
Disgusting. But I'm not surprised, you dudes are gross

>>153187997
Nah. GT isn't good, but it has moments better than Super. Manga is good and all, but anime-wise, all the Super rehashes(BoG, RoF, Fillershit) is worse than GT. Also Super art is consistently bad, GT actually has good art from time to time.

They are both however plagued by shitty animators. Super is made by sweatshop workers and GT was done 99% by Uchiyama.

>>153187130
Not just niggastream anon, other translations had the same thing.

The fact that it was in BOTH the anime and the manga shows that it was in Toriyama's outline, it was his idea for a gag.

>>153188056
no english subs

>>153188075
Whatever you say babe just know if you keep talking my dick will be forced into your mouth.

>>153187499
It's the ultimate battle for her, a bigger fight than anything Goku could ever face.

>>153188110
Try it, subhuman

>>153187625
Goku never stopped training, and she trained Goten herself.

>>153188159
No you are too fat.

>>153188080
Even some of the later episodes of the BoGs remake arc had some pretty good animation though, especially once Goku goes back to SSJ.

GT's animation was consistently mediocre at best and never even reached the level of (Post God) SSJ Goku vs Beerus.

>>153187641
They're feeding Goten too..

>>153188204
>ad hominem
Pathetic.

>>153188056
Even sounds like Japanese Goku.

>>153188080
As an avid GT hater, I will give you that GT for the most part looked better. Hopefully this changes as Super goes on, but at least the former had the old art style that everyone preferred.

>>153188080
GT has only ideas and ending for itself. And ending only works just because of how much you like DB, no one fucking thought about events of GT watching this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frG6Pf0SgvU

Super has been getting progressively better since U6 tournament. Fights have energy behind them and, hell, this new cheap ass filter they put on actually works. Episode 77 looks decent, OP looks amazing.

>Super is made by sweatshop workers and GT was done 99% by Uchiyama.
Sweatshop workers > Uchiyama.

>>153188252
Being bitchy makes you not lose weight you know that babe?

>>153188275
>as Super goes on
We are entering 5th major arc.

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>>153188298
>GT has ideas

GT's basic ideas were horrible. Turning Goku into a kid and pushing everyone else into the sidelines, including Pan who who was useless despite being hyped up in EoZ. It was a depressing note for the cast to go off on compared to what we're getting with the Multiverse tournament.

>>153187681
It may always confuddle us Jar Jar, not letting people down if I had to make some assumptions.

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>>153180928
How could Krilin complete that scene without being distracted by the shota saiyan cock? If my wife was there she would have sucked that suckered dry, then spit the cum into her pussy to attempt getting pregnant.

>>153180928
Goku is more durable than the sun, Chi Chi knows he pretty much impossible to kill/

>>153184533
Is it just me or is 17 being back weirder than Roshi?

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Team Ayy will beat the Menace of Goku for Lord Booze-sama

>>153188303
At least try something new, dude. We already know you sucks in the bed, but arguing too?

>>153188533
It's Toriyama throwing a bone at all the old fans, and quite honestly it's working.

>>153188303
>>153188563
Shut up and fuck already you two.

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Give me a senzu, Trunks...

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>>153188552
Why do faggots think the female Saiyan is with them when she isn't wearing their uniform and has a similar belt to Cabba?

>>153187576
Doesn't like talking about his emotions because he's a violent space autist.

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>Bit by bit My heart is charmed
With that dazzling smile
Let's flee from the endless darkness Hold my handYou see, when I met you
I remembered the view which I had treasured when I was a child
Won't you dance with me
It's a winding road of light and shadows Even now, you're dreaming of him?
There are times when it seemed like I wanted to turn back but
Holding love, courage, and pride, I shall fightBit by Bit My heart is charmed
A piece of hope in this world
Anyone surely wants to have eternity in his hands
Even if you pretend not to mind at all
Hey I love you
Let's flee from the endless darkness Hold your handI also like you, even with that face, tired from anger
I wonder if it's all right to live such a life, being blown away
As for me... I'm just spun around by casual gestures Sea Side Blue
Or are you still dreaming of him
I had something more I wish to ask but
Our conversation just goes on like the sound of car wheels dancing around
Bit by Bit My heart is charmed
It's amazing even to myself but
Something is there I suddenly feel like calling you
Even if you pretend not to mind at all
In the end all I see is you
Let's flee towards the sea Hold my hand


what did goku mean by this?

>>153187971
>Thinking that everyone has to conform to some standard

This is just what some beta would think and say to feel better about himself and what he does.

>>153188661
because she is literally with Ayys team in the op wearing the same fucking colors

>>153184817
True.
These guys make it hard to enjoy dragonball. They ignore the good and only look for the bad.

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>>153188661
It's the same coloring, and the uniform may be different because she's a girl.

>mfw she turns out to be some new race

>>153188602
That's not how fuck works, anon. I don't like pigs, but men

>>153183513
>sayans
No, just Goku. The monarchy of planet Vegeta requires functional family structure.

>>153188738
I don't care, you're both annoying.

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>>153188728
>because she is literally with Ayys team in the op
I guess that means Whis dumped Beerus for Champa then.


>>153188735
>It's the same coloring
>their uniform
>red and black

>her clothes
>just red

>>153180741
He's just oblivious, retard.

>>153188614
Why are you shipping top quality waifu with fucking Trunks?

Are you a fucking cuck? Are you going to just watch some filthy half-breed fuck a semen demon of your dreams?

>>153188735
How mad would you be if she was wasn't even a saiyan and the Broly thing was just a wink and a nod?
Also, I thought only U6 and U7 had saiyans?
Also, fuck you idiots that think Goku is gonna get an evil form. How stupid can you be?
Thats either kaioken or just some artsy shit for the new opening.

>>153188848
>just red
Check again

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>>153188848
you Brolyfags just can't accept fem Broly being on Ayy's team

>>153188861
Maybe he's actually self-inserting as the Kai.

>>153187452
>/a/ thinks you need to kiss a girl to make her pregnant

kek

>>153188552
Seriously, why the fuck is Beerus on Ayliem's team? Or is this more shit writing from Toei?

>>153188884
I wouldn't even be mad if she wasn't a saiyan. LSSJ was just an interesting concept. All I ask is for her to not be shafted immediately into irrelevancy. And besides, there's no rule saying the people have to be native to said universe, assuming they were taken from another universe.

>Goku evil form
Literally just a meme

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>>153188933
>Brolyfag
>me
Pic related
>dat pic
>the irony

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>>153188972
>Beerus

>>153188988
Who the hell are you quoting?
>pic related
Fuck off

>>153188968
Now that you mention it, /a/ would kiss a prostitute if they ever resorted to that to lose their virginities.

>>153187557
He has a job. He makes money. Why does everyone keep calling him jobless?

>>153188848
Your dumb

>>153188988
then explain why every single character in that pic is wearing Ayy'a outfit or his team colors
why would they put a universe 6 fighter with another universes team in the intro

>>153183635
Is this a popularity poll?
>How the fuck is mr. satan that popular pre-Buu Saga?
>How the fuck is Dende even mentioned, when he did almost nothing in that arc?

>>153189014
Looks just like the fucker. Who is he?
>>153188974
No,because the universes are twins to one another. That's why Beerus and Champa look alike. It's why saiyans exist in u6+u7.
So what the fuck.

>>153187907
At least he finally scored.

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>>153188988
>posting like this

fuck off

>>153189059
>who the hell are you quoting
>greentext is always quoting
>implying

newfag get out and stay get out

>>153187576
Prince of all Saiyans

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>>153183883
As if that's a bad thing

>>153188884
No one thinks he's getting an evil form just that he's evil for being the menace for dooming the Multiverse. Yes U6 and U7 are the only ones that have saiyans but that doesn't mean Fem broly isn't one Booze-sama coulda just stole her from U6 and thats way the U6 saiyans didnt know about SSJ and LSSJ

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>>153189103
Yes. Here's the one from the Buu saga.

Can artificial human/cyborg/android (NON HUMANS) 18/17 become fat?

>>153189113
You missed the point. There's no rule saying the fighters need to be native to their universe. A saiyan from U6 could be in another universe and be on the team for that other universe if so chosen.

And for crying out loud, Beerus and Champa obviously are from a race of aliens.

>>153189103
>How the fuck is mr. satan that popular pre-Buu Saga?

Because the poll was done right after he showed up for the first time and did enough funny shit to be memorable. Never forget that Law got into the top 10 in One Piece off of one fucking page of screentime.

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>>153189178
A race of aliens who has a member on Ayy's team

>>153185172
I always read that thumb as nigger for some odd reason

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>>153189076
>every single character in that pic is wearing Ayy'a outfit
Except they're not. Can you not see that the outfit she's wearing is clearly different from theirs while her belt is the same as Cabba's belt?

>why would they put a universe 6 fighter with another universes team in the intro
Why would they put some of the GoD here and stick the rest with Angels and Kais?

>>153180741
Why is Super Goku is goddamn dumb and bloodthirsty compared to the previous Z arcs? I remember Z Goku being pragmatic enough to lecture other characters that fighting wouldn't be the proper course of action.

He actually punched Gohan to prevent him from fighting Cell to save Piccolo and Tien. When he confronted Cell for the first time, he actually didn't want to fight him and his first priority was rescuing Piccolo and Tien.

Goku even criticized Vegeta for putting their rivalry fight over the threat of Buu, and in the Buu arc almost seemed to regret not being there for Gohan when he was young.

>>153189258
See >>153182023

>>153185172
massive cock is an idiot who can't understand why SAIYANS ae not supposed to love their kids

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>>153187270
Sometimes coming to this site is worth it all.

>>153189258
Realizing that there is a whole other batch of universes and a much higher ceiling to being the strongest, including multiple timelines, seems to have fucked with Goku's sense of what's really important.

>>153189250
>Except they're not. Can you not see that the outfit she's wearing is clearly different from theirs while her belt is the same as Cabba's belt?
she is still wearing black and red like every single character in that shot
>Why would they put some of the GoD here and stick the rest with Angels and Kais?
we don't know yet maybe all the gods wanna kill Goku while the others try to keep him alive it's too early to tell

>>153188563
>sucks in the bed
Well thats your opinion I know my dick is kryptonite to all women on earth.

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Did the mods ban concession-kun?

I don't see any derogatory terms for latinos in any of these threads.

>>153188848
>Gimli at the front, where he belongs.
What's his end game?

>>153189324
Shut up, limp dick.

>>153189381
killing he who started this awful tournament

Goku is a dumbass. When he gets his head into "MUH FIGHTING" he really tends to fuck things up for everyone. His own selfishness and standards of morals tends to make things worse. Remember when he gave Cell a Senzu bean? That happened.

Right in the latest episode, Beerus saw this fatal flaw of Goku and seriously contemplated Hakaing the fuck out of him.

And now Goku directly just set course for multiple universes to be destroyed. I really fucking hope that just this once, Goku realizes the gravity of his actions and it's consequences. Should give him some development at least.

He largely is still the same character that he was from the start of Vanilla Dragonball.

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>>153187270
>720 degree 4th dimension Dempsey roll

>>153189366
More important question is: who gives a fuck?

>>153189324

Doesn't that mean that women are put off by your dick?

Superman isn't very fond of touching kryptonite.

>>153189381
>tfw you're a peaceful GoD
>but you've got a mean face
>and you're so short that you have to get pushed to the front

>>153189258
Most of your examples aren't really related to the current situation though. Super Goku also recognizes impossible battles like preventing Gohan from facing Cell - see how he instantly dismissed even fusion to beat Beerus. Same thing with him facing Cell. He had no chance, so he was there just to rescue the others. But go back further.

He didn't let Bulma go forward with her plan of killing Gero before he finished the Androids.

>>153189250
Black and red outfit like everyone on captain Ayy's team but no her belt means more then her outfit to you apparently

>>153183108
FUN FACT: Yajirobe originally said "Goku, would you let me hit her?", but americucks changed it because apparently hitting a woman is the worse crima imaginable.

>>153189490
Learn to wordplay my friend it means its a weakness to all women, all women would behead their boyfriends just to have me, Im just that good but cmon now Im me of course Im that good.

>>153188444
You're a kiddy diddler

>>153189476
Dude, they'd better fucking have Goku acknowledge how he COMPLETELY fucked it up for everyone. This shit is truly unforgivable.

>>153189511
Wearing black and red clothes != being part of Ayy's team.

Her outfit doesn't follow the same fucking pattern. She's not wearing a tight suit like a superhero outfit. The saiyans from U6 are a heroic group. The belt could be their dress code.

>>153189607
Dude, give up already.

>>153189544

I got the wordplay.

It's just the sentence can be interpreted in more ways than one.

>>153189502
I hope this is true. I hope Gimli is just really kind hearted and open handed.

>>153189544
>Im
No, you're retarded. You're probably a spic so your dick smells like an expired taco.

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>>153189540
Fucking comiccucks ruining mangachads once again.

>>153189544
t. 13 year old

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>>153189511
>Black and red outfit like everyone on captain Ayy's team
By that logic Beerus and Hit are affiliated because they're both purple.

>but no her belt means more then her outfit to you apparently
Yeah a little bit.

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>>153189544
Must be true if this is being posted on an anonymous image board.

>>153189607
Or not Do you really want a Hulking LSSJ in a Skin tight outfit ? Stop its already dead. She's on captain Ayy's team your just embrassesing yourself if you think different

>>153189696
Cabba's armor has a Greek look to it

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>>153189324
>>153189544

>>153189607
she is wearing red and black like everyone on Ayys team
she is with Ayys team in the Op
give up you lost

>>153189696
Kay well see when she debuts why team she's on

>>153189763
The problem is that she clearly a Saiyan, and Saiyans are only suppossed to exists in unverses 6 and 7.

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Mai is a cat! A CAT!

>>153189806
>Same belt
>Both have arm bands
>Both have spats
GG anon.

>Brolette
>in Ayy's team

Fucking autist I swear

>>153189628
I'm not even that same Anon. You're just stupid enough to assume that she's part of Ayy's team just because her outfit has a similar color scheme. She doesn't wear their uniform. Senate's teammates wear the same uniform. Meanwhile she wears the same type of belt that Cabba does.

I guess the mouse GoD and Botamo are related because they're yellow animals.

>>153189832
I forgot if they said Saiyans are only in U6&7

>>153189874
Well, Saiyans are aliens.

>>153189917
Not him; It's not explicitly stated but it wouldn't make sense otherwise because each universe has an unidentical twin counterpart, and it's the universe that when added to it adds up to 13.