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>hurt by a human bullet
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Ten bucks says the clown is going to be the "I actually WANT all the other universes to be destroyed!" character.
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Best girl ever
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fun times ahead
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>>153146507
Meaningless compared to best boy.
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>>153145808
Bullets now > Bullets then.

Do you think the technology in the DB world just stopped in time?
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>>153145808
Your retarded.
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>>153145808
TOEISPICS BTFO
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>>153146670
Oh the irony.
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reminder that

bulma > 18 > mai > videl > chichi
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>>153146715
Vados > Everyone
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>>153145808
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>>153146763
Beating in a fight or in something else?
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>>153146766
Draw Chronoa getting raped by Demigra.
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Draw Chronoa beating Mai
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>>153146766
fuck off faggot you are literally a steven universe fan
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>>153146715
>>153146766
"Super Saiyan before it was cool" Launch
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still 2nd strongest prove me wromg oh no you cant
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>>153146693
That was probably the outline tho
Just some regular PiS to validate the plot's motion forward.
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>>153146013
Too easy.
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Disregard my previous posts; I suck dicks.
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>>153146888
>Different Trip
Try again
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>>153146888
I accept your tripcession.
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>>153146912
Disregard that; I suck dicks.
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>>153146810
Where you prefer anon, just make Mai suffer, and if can make Trunks watch her better
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>>153146766
>Steven Pooniverse fag has good taste

DOUSHIO
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>>153146637

Given how often the faggots mention beggining of DB Goku not getting a scratch, yes. Plus everyone thinking 17/18 can't get stronger.

Hell even Multiverse had retards complaining Raditz could fight the armored guys just because they were able to match the likes of Android 16, 40 years later.
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Anyone else here love Beerus? I lov him. Would bring food for him every day.
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>>153146841
NINGEN contribute something like that fag or shut the fuck up
what do you want more anime shit v manga shit?
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>>153146941
You're weird, anon.
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>>153146948
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>>153146829
Yadda Yadda i will kick your fat ass
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>>153146998
>what do you want more anime shit v manga shit?
no need, the anime is shit and not canon
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It's in his nature!
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>>153146998
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>>153146998
I'd rather have anime vs manga faggotry 24/7 than tripshit attention whoring and retards like >>153146963 actually recognizing them
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>>153147079
THIS
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>>153146013
The clown will be a noble hero who has lived a life facing anti-clown prejudice
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>>153145808
Well, you can say ningen technology is getting better than better
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>>153147061
Daily reminder than the third manga con was already debunked in the latest manga chapter
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>>153146637
Nice head-canon.
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>>153147146
Thus. Fix that pic anon.
>>153147061
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>>153147146
yeah i can go ahead and remove that, will do now
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why are you people making crazy "NEW FORM" "GOKU IS EVIL" theory? During u6 people were making crazy theories too. Yet it was very a very simple arc. I don't hate fun, I just don't want to be let down.
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>>153147051
Seriously though. Why are you so emotionally invested in hating a fictional character?
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>>153147186
>>153147146
k fixed
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Why do these subs keep including honorifics and italicizing them?
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>>153147066
>Goku EVER turning evil
he's Toei's posterboy, its not possible unless its another person completely. I would love if he actually awakened to his true Saiyan nature though
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>>153147061
Also fix
>Dragon Ball's original manga was also rushed
That isn't the case faggot and neither is the DBS manga except for the BoG arc.
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>>153147270
>Why do these subs keep including honorifics
why would they not?
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>>153147286
i didn't make the pic, dude
i'll fix that if you take back what you said and say please
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>>153147317
Fuck that.
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>>153147357
k then go fuck yourself faggot
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>>153147260
She is a bad influence for Trunks
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>>153147264
Well done Anon, thanks and saved
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>>153146013
Kefka?
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>>153147079
yeah don't really believe you'd rather have that
>>153147061
and we still have the exact same buffet of insults again and again and again and again and again
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>>153147273
Everybody actually working together again to kill Goku.
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>>153147061
>>153147146
>>153147186
>>153147264
>they actually care about the validity of a massive encyclopedic rant image made by someone who was a little too butthurt about people enjoying a different medium of the exact same thing
>they can't just enjoy these fucking chinese cartoons and comic books

Honestly lads you're not doing mangafags any favours.
All I'm seeing is they're easily triggered and crazy insecure.
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>watching DBS and not understanding it's a fucking insult to Dragon Ball

I wish I could not care but I really hate all of you guys from the bottom of my heart.
If you really were a fan of DB you could not stand watch a minute of this show.
Watching the first episodes was such a fucking torture;
And no don't tell me it has gotten better.

Are you all spics or what?
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FIXED IT AGAIN
just because i'm so nice
thank me again please
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>>153146013
Ningen don't talk shit about my buddy kresta the clown god
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>>153147475
>thinks DB is chinese
opinion discarded
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>>153145808
Dont characters in the DBZ universe have a defense stat? They've always made a big deal about how "I gotta keep my guard up" in fights. Remember that time Krillin actually hurt Goku in his ascended Saiyan form with a rock because Goku was sleeping?
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>>153147479
I agree

I have officially now stopped caring whatever the hell people say about me. Fuck. Girl Brolly. The most stupid, asspull, pandering, goofy thing toriyama could have done. The recent rise in r34 spammed has removed any last bit of pity i had. why do we only see pandering? Why don't we see Db super in the "best xxxx of the year" lists? Why don't we see other shows have such pandering asspulls? Why is it only letdowns that we see? People must realise there is not a problem with suggesting ideas, there is a fucking problem with worshipping a stale ass dickless betamale meat man (kakkarot be upon him). I am sick and tired of these asspulls, i am sick and tired of the fandom having to deal with this bullshit, we fucking give the another chance and all they do is not develop and explore ideas and claim new animators are responsible and claim themselves to be above the animators who were there for decades. Throughout my life i have always defended plotholes in dragon ball (which i am now doubting they can be salvaged ) and told people to not generalise the whole dragon ball series but this is fucking enough, this anime is fucking ruining our way of life, either toei trys to fire these retarded animators who can't/stay on model/ fire the people who can't be consistent with the previously established rules of the franchise, and try to stop them, or they can get the fuck out of the anime industry and end db super. I am so sorry for any toei person who understands theses things out there, i really am, but i have to vent out this rage. Sadly, dragon ball in its current form is not compatible with the 21st century, like it or not. I excuse myself again, i must now go sacrifice a db ssblue toy, because gt
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>>153146544
link to full image
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>>153147495
Fine, thanks anon.
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>>153147475
Just ignore it.
Mangacucks are as easily triggered as you think, and the animecucks abuse that like faggots to send them into fits of rage that produce images like that one you see.
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>>153147536
I'm glad you agree but I won't read all that shit.
Except if you tell me this is some dank pasta.
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>>153146013
Don't post animal violence, delete this
>inb4 Goku is a monkey and he can punch him with no problems
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>>153147475
It doesn't seem butthurt to me at all, the manga is objectively better, that might change with this arc because Toei's retardation will be kept at bay (Hopefully) and did you even read the conclusion? Feel free to like whatever the fuck you want
>>153147495
Good
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>>153147555
http://imgur.com/a/RKLm9
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>>153147639
that...that is legal?
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>>153147066
Remember the saiyan arrogance thing that SSJ2 Gohan got against Cell? what if the same thing but with Goku instead.
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OMG I UPDATED IT AGAIN
had to add the pic of SSJ Rose black to the top right chart thing
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>>153145808
>What do you mean I cant destroy what I want?
>Your life has meaning?
>How does your life have meaning?
>It just does
>It doesnt work like that I created you and everything around you so I decide if you life has meaning or not.
>Thats not fair?
>Your life has meaning but the concept of meaning means nothing to me try to process that.
>I should feel sorry for all the beings I kill?
>Kill means nothing to me since I can just recreate you infinitely, even your "after" life is just another state of existence made by me because I felt as though a single existence was boring. So that "soul" you have is as meaningless as your matter based body to me.
>Im a bad person?
>Hmm thats interesting, however think about this ningen do you ever weep or cry about the lives of a character you have drawn on a piece of paper? No you dont that is exactly what you are like to me, not just you your entire universe is like a paramecium to me.
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>>153147632
>It doesn't seem butthurt to me at all
>making a huge image to debunk people liking different things isn't butthurt

You poor thing. You're high
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>>153147672
Why would changing your clothes after a game of baseball be illegal?
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>>153147680
>Zeno no longer has the need for friends so he will get rid of all Universes since they're boring
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>>153147479
Most of us don't watch. We read the Manga when it comes out and use the anime for memes and spoilers.
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>>153145808
Well a human created C17 and C18.
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>>153147731
Very good outtro.

Anyone else agree?
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>>153147785
no, not a single person agrees
fucking retard
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>>153147785
agree
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>>153147753
but the manga is just as bad
are your eyes blinded by shit?
it looks fucking terrible
fan arts are better than this

I can't even comprehend how they didn't find a better drawer for fucking dragon ball
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>>153145808
It really pisses me off just how badly they botched this new arc. The whole Multiverse and having alternate characters ie Frost vs Frieza. Can you imagine if they implemented the ideas from the Multiverse fanfic? Instead, we get... these dumbass cats and wolves fighting each other.

Even logically, it makes so little sense. They introduce opposites from other universes and then all of a sudden, they just decide to throw that shit right out the window.
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>>153147632
>It doesn't seem butthurt to me at all, the manga is objectively bette

>it's better, so I need people to make infodumps to validate my interests

You all need to fuck off with this anime vs manga war bullshit, but this >>153147495 big-ass self-titled rant is easily the most pathetic thing in it.
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>>153147785
I love it, it looks it might develop through the saga too since it wasn't like that in the webm the episodes prior.
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>>153147785
yes
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>>153147865
>STILL no refutations from toeifags to anything in the rant image
WEEEEEEEWWWWW
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>>153147753
>Most of us don't watch.

Threads are far more active around anime episodes.
Meanwhile, they stay basically the same around manga chapters.
More people watch the anime. Just accept it, these are primarily DBS anime threads.
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>>153147399
The way you do that is cringeworthy and makes you sound desperate though.
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>>153147632
I love Super manga, and the anime is just ok for me, but those autistic faggots posting cancer like "le toeichads are epic boss xD" or "our guy toei a shit xD" are fucking annoying
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>>153147912
I don't care about refuting anything because I take no side and enjoy both for what they are. For what it's worth, though, I just look down on whoever made that titanic piece of shit and laugh at whoever would dedicate that much of their day to being pissy about a Japanese kid's cartoon, whilst attempting to boast superiority of their similarly entry-level manga.
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>>153147850
Watch your shit moron, these furrys are my friends
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>>153147865
>>153147718
This rant image really gets the job done, nobody tries to refute it and instead resort to ad hominens, well done
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>>153147834
A drawer?
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>>153147966
the manga >>>> the anime
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>>153147978
There's nothing to refute because you're the only one perpetuating that there's a fight between two sides taking place.

>>153147998
I don't care about your opinion one way or the other. Just accept that nobody else does, either, and don't be so insecure you need big images to validate what you like.
Just like it and talk about it instead of getting whipped into a frenzy whenever someone says "Toeichad" or some shit.
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>>153147677
I agree and all but Frost was shit the moment they revealed he was evil either way.
It would have been better if he was basically Chaotic Good, keep the whole cheated part in but he did it with justice in mind.

At least he wouldn't literally be Freeza2: Electric Boogaloo
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>>153147983
yes a person who draws
open a dictionary

ESL shitter speaking
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>>153147850
Only twin universes share races retard
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Reminder that SSA Trunks being stronger than SSB Goku would make sense in the manga because Trunks' base is stronger than Goku. Toei a shit
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>>153147977
Fuck man. Watching this gave me diarrhoea of the utmost magnitude. Can you imagine if instead of this faggot-looking alien, they had Vegito if Vegito never seperated during his fight with super buu? Or even Roshi-krillin with kaoiken? Just thinking about it makes me mad at how much potential it had but Toriyama, as usual, fucks it up.
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I dont think you can really scale Zeno's power, its obvious that Zeno is the admin of the Dragonball existence so the concept of power cant be applied to what he does. Beerus says he doesnt fight he just destroys meaning he wills things out of existence like the administor of a video game server.
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>>153147834
>>>>>>>>>>>drawer
I swear to God, these fucking Toeipedros
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>>153148041
>I don't care about your opinion one way or the other. Just accept that nobody else does, either
apparently they do, you dumb piece of shit
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>>153147923
it has become a fun staple for me
reee demigra shill,mai is old grandma
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>>153147923
Whatever look what did my warrior in his 9stars quest
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>>153148052
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I unironically like the aesthetics of SSJ4 over SSB.
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>>153147850
They stated that the universes are all in pairs, so two of them are similar to each other and the rest are not like those two

U7 and U6 are a pair


If you want shitty fanfic go to Deviantart

No one over 14 wants more evil gokus or to see Freiza rehashed again
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>>153148089
>literally confirming you NEED the validation

I almost feel bad for pointing it out.
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>>153146985
>I don't know how guns work
>but I masturbate to underage 2d girls so I'm an expert on the subject
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>>153148061
>because Trunks' base is stronger than Goku
Nope.
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>>153148123
>that image
This is getting hilarious
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>>153147978
All I said was that the dude who made it was clearly butthurt.
I don't care about the contents of it or the anime vs manga shit. I was just saying I think you're all equally pathetic.
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>>153148123
>reaching this hard
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/drawer

here's for you kids
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>>153148091
Yeah it was kinda funny at first. But now it just looks like someone who gets buttmad over a character and it just sounds sad desu.
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>>153148180
I accept your concession
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>>153148123
>that fucking IMAGE

TOEICHADS
WIN
AGAIN
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>>153148062
>This level of autism

Go masturbate with DBMultiverse and fuck off
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>>153145808
Earth technology is pretty much the best in the universe.
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Reminder Toei Goku a shit.
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>>153148186
why respond with fanmade noncanon material?
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>>153148180
hehe drawer and not mangaka (you)'re funny
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>Toyopedros literally making numerous rant images because they can't contain their butthurt about their secondary canon being cucked down by based Toeiyama
>Toeichads laughing in the background and enjoying the based new arc

Feels good to keep on winning
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I love cuckolding!
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>>153148255
not calling him a mangaka was oretty much intentional
did you even read my opinion about this piece of shit?
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>>153148235
>admitting Toei super goku is closer to toriyama's vision of a battle crazed monkey.
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>>153148290
>pedro
Wait a minute do mexicans shitpost on/a/? I thought only white people posted here.
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>>153148080
>shitposter starts of by calling the anime shit
>but is still considered a Toeipedro when he starts shitting on the manga
This stupid argument has gone too far. I can get behind not being allowed to like both, but not even being allowed to hate both is definitely ridiculous.
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>>153148290
>ad hominem
>no argument
Do I need to say it?
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>>153148330
Yes.
They read the DBS manga so they're easily identifiable.
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>>153148062
Last warning, stop talking shit about my nigga Captain ayylmao and his friends
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>>153148180
You mad google translate-Paco?
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>autistic Toeicancer vs Toyoshit again

Well see you guys on Saturday
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>>153146766
OLD AND BUSTED
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>>153145808
At least Goku can tank a bullet. Meanwhile this meme man gets hurt by a cat.

Goku > Darkseid (can take a beating from thugs) > Saitama
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>>153148290
>mfw Cuckatarofags won't get to enjoy the new arc in their shitty fanfiction until AT LEAST the summer
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>>153148353
so funny seeing you toeispics reach this hard. spics LOVE toei material.
don't you remember broly, gogeta, etc.?
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>>153148355
He could probably destroy the universe since hes on par with Cyan Goku.
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>>153148328
Nope, Toriyama oversees every chapter of the manga which means Toyo Goku is closer to Toriyama's version of Goku.

Toei Goku is a shitty flanderization.
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>>153148330
Are you kidding? Spics fucking love DBZ, just look at this retard who can barely type
>>153148302
>>153148180
>>153147834
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>"My shit is less smelly than yours!!!!" again
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The autism in this thread is too much.
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>>153148422
>white people only speak english
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>>153148478
>implying the manga is only slightly better than toeispicanime
wew lad
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>>153148400
>mfw this arc in the anime will be filled with QUALITY because of Toei's shitty schedule and the amount of back to back fights.

Can't wait.
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>Toei's GOAT anime
>based OP
>based colours
>relevant
>/a/ loves it, discusses it regularly

>Cuckotaro's WOAT manga
>no music or sounds aside from the reader's mother shouting at them that hotpockets are ready
>no colours because Cuckotaro can't afford ink
>not relevant
>nobody except reddit cares about it

TAKE IT, MANGAKEKS
IT'S ALL YOURS
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>>153147834
>drawer
>Toeishills are spics

Not surprised
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>>153146013
maybe it's one of his pranks
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>>153148518
uh, don't you mean ">only white people speak english", you dumb spic?
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>>153148513
You can say they were holding back the whole time, now you will see them increase their autism on levels you will never see in a long time,
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How come these threads are some of the most enjoyable on /a/ from Friday-Monday but turn into absolute shit starting Tuesday?
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>>153148546
>>no music or sounds aside from the reader's mother shouting at them that hotpockets are ready

kek manganiggers btfo, how will they ever recover
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>>153148595
Toyopedros need to learn their place
Toeichads remind them
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Friendly reminder that this guy doesn't care about the manga and only watches the anime

By default, this is a "Toeichad"
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>>153148554
drawer is a word, try dealing with it even if you're 10yo
see that as a growing experience

also deal with the fact that I shit both on the anime and the manga

actually I also shit on the original anime

only the original manga and DB kai were good
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>>153148672
proof it is him?
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Reminder

https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/827868156890865665

>But seriously what the fuck is Super's production even. It's destroying every good director at Toei.

>Can't wait to watch a tournament arc crash and burn... again.

>What's even sadder is that there are people who think the filler episodes will help the production in the upcoming arc.
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>>153148672
looks like a nigger to me
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>>153148672
noboy cares about your gay boyfriend
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>>153148588
no thats not what I meant
having trouble understanding your own language?

enough DBS for you
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>>153148531
it is only marginally better at some points, it butchered the characterization of Zamasu and Black due to its rushed pacing, and this is what people agree to be the highest point of super of super so far.
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>>153148546
>>Cuckotaro's WOAT manga
>>no music or sounds aside from the reader's mother shouting at them that hotpockets are ready
>>no colours because Cuckotaro can't afford ink

That's it lads, I'm officially a toeichad now
I can not associate myself with people who got blown back this hard
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>>153148701
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>153148595
Some anons love sucking Toyotaro's dick and his boring manga

Others love watching shit quality anime
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>>153148721
>damage control
>n-no i didn't m-mean that!
go back to taco bell, paco
>>153148722
wrong
manga>>>>anime
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>>153145808
Goku has to focus his ki for his absurd defense, it's the same reason why the beam in Revival of F rekt him when he wasn't paying attention.
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>my aniface when /a/nons can't stop me from being a spic who loves Dragon Ball
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>>153148595
could be some one country shitting it up like america or australia
somebody pls give a real answer
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>>153148546
TOEICHADS=PATS, BRADY AND TRUMP
TOYOKEKS=FAILCONS, MATTY """"ICE""" AND HILLARY
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>>153148672
yeah this guy is superior
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>>153148722
>it butchered the characterization of Zamasu and Black due to its rushed pacing
Not really both are the same in the manga except more competent and they're shit characters regardless.
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>>153148662
>
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>>153146941
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>>153148775
I didn't mean that
try reading my sentence again
you might understand it

or not
since you like db super
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>>153148719
They do >>153148123 >>153148217 >>153148290
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>>153148811
nah spics love toei and all their noncanon movie bullshit
>muh new super cyan forms!!!!
>>153148832
no, i know what you mean, you dumb spic
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>usanians using "spic" every minute these threads

>implying there's no both, spics mangafags as spics animefags
>implying their racism is an argument


That's why nobody likes you. Get a load of canadians, guys
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>>153148783
Yes but are you a cute spic or a spic spic
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>>153148676
Pedro 1:5-21
>drawer is a word, try dealing with it even if you're 10yo
>see that as a growing experience
Truly the voice of a generation
>>153148546
wtf i love toei now
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>>153147066
/ourguy/
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>>153148829
MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
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>>153148811
Kek so true

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the official Toeichad ambassador.
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>>153148137
>Goku stops one Trunks' punch
>that totally debunks how Trunks' SS2 is stronger than Goku's SS3

Nope.
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>>153148829
You are my favorite OC donut steal anon
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>>153148853
desu Spics hate Blue because it has no big moosles like SSJ4
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>>153148874
>I can be your angle or yuor devil
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>>153148823
>>153148123
>>153147677

>Toeicancer and Toyoshits being this butthurt
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Mods
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>>153147785
Yeah, love it.
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>GT is better than Super

when will this fucking meme end?
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>>153148917
>reaching this hard
wew
Where's your proof that base Trunks is stronger than base Goku?
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Seriously how can we even compete?
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>>153148829
Who is Trunks fucking?
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>>153148822
>not really

Zamasu stealing goku's body is a lot more contrived in the manga, the fact he faces goku and comes to depise him makes the fact he turned into black feel a lot more natural development in the anime, plus we actually get glimpses of zamasu and gowasu interacting with eachother which is more than can be said about the manga where the latter is just mr. exposition.
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>>153149042
Chronoa. The objective best kai
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>>153148917
>Trunks SS2 stronger than Goku's SS3
>God form wasn't absorbed into base, still a readily accessible transformation

Holy fuck the manga is THIS bad??????
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>>153148983
>Here's come the reddit patroll
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so hit will lose to ayy most likely? LOL how predictable. What we have been saying for months? In the multiverse tournament, Hit loses to some big bad crazy guy and now ?????????????????????????????? HOW WILL GOKU POSSIBLY BEAT HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!!!!!!!!!


How predictable
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>GTfags gone
>Superfags are so fucking retarded they need to fight someone and start fighting each other

This autism wars are fucking gold
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>>153149037
DELETE THIS
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Super Manga >>> GT > Super Anime
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I WILL LEGIT KICK SHITNUGGETS FROM BOTH SIDES BACK TO YOUR MOTHER'S CUNT IF YOU DON'T STOP

IM SORRY GOHANFAGS YOU WEREN'T THIS ANNOYING
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>>153149083
>Trunks SS2 stronger than SSB


Holy fuck the anime is THIS bad??????
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>>153149054
Zamasu deciding to steal Goku's body because he saw him on TV is fucking retarded.

The ONLY good thing about the manga is the art, it is objectively worse in every other fashion.
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>>153149132
Leave Dad to me.
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>>153149037
DELETE THIS NINGEN.
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Will Toyo treat Vegetto and M. Zamasu better than Toei did?
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>>153149124
Wrong way
Super anime >>>>>>>>>>>>> GT >>>>> Super manga
Super anime is GOAT af and provides the best memes on sale right now

>>153149147
um that's incorrect tho
please apologize to me!
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>>153149152
Yep. Not to mention SSJ2 Trunks is stronger than SSJ3 Goku in the manga which is retarded.
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>>153147731
You know what burns my ass up about it?
>It looks and feels like the manga.
>Digital animation allows ease of creating basically what feels like "the manga in motion."
>New animation director shoves some fucking blur filter on to hide bad art mistakes.

I would kill to have the rest of Super being animated similar to the outro, looking like manga pages "I dont mean the boxes, I mean you can tell from the coloring and how the artwork looks." Even Goku's power lines are like the manga.

Id love to have this as the series.
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>>153149088
These autistic threads need the naruto treatment and you know it
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>>153149176
is this better anon?
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>>153149206
incorrect
Super Manga >>> GT > Super Anime
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Dad I must stop you now
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>>153149054
Nah the manga is fine as is, Zamasu being butthurt he lost a sparring match was a lame motivation.

>plus we actually get glimpses of zamasu and gowasu interacting with eachother
Yeah Gowasu asking for tea every two seconds and Gowasu saying ZAMASU!! every time Zamasu was naughty were such great character moments.
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>>153149206
>um that's incorrect tho

Oh right, sorry

>Trunks SS2 stronger than Merged Zamasu


Holy fuck the anime is THIS bad??????
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>>153149187
>Will Toyo treat Vegetto
Nope.
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>>153149218
I disagree you're wrong fight me

>>153149255
um that's wrong again though please apologize to me
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>>153149226
Not really. A ningen fighting on par with a god was something Zamasu was unable to comprehend, the fact that Goku did made Zamasu resent ningens more.
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>>153148123
this desu senpai
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>>153149132
shut up pinkie
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>>153148874
why there hasnt been a "nice guy/twisted fucking psychopath" edit yet?
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>>153145808
Didn't one of those characters get hurt by the other tossing a pebble at their head while they were Super Saiyan?
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>>153149308
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA KEK HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER

PFFFHAHAHAH
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>>153149288
>um that's wrong again
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>>153149294
Zamasu had a point, if you ignore that Golden Frieza horsecrap the only beings on par with Kais were artifically or magically engineered beings, natural lifeforms or ningen would never reach their level of power through ki or science based on the fact Gero somehow created machines many times more powerful than fucking Frieza THROUGH SCIENCE ALONE.
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>>153148595
This is what happens when you constantly make threads when there's no new content to discuss and/or previous topics have already been discussed to death, and one of the many reasons as to why general culture is cancer
>>153148804
Pic semi-related
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>>153149213
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>>153149226
>Zamasu being butthurt he lost a sparring match was a lame motivation.

No, this is literally what makes the character interesting you dumb fuck

Zamasu is a pissy little manchild who's so immensely butthurt he got his ass kicked by a filthy ningen (when the superiority of the Gods is the core of his entire belief system) that he decided to go all god complex and wipe out all mortals, dressing it up as divine justice when it's really just his own petty insecurities
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>>153149028
>"reaching"
Are you literally retarded? SS2 Trunks isn't only stronger than SS2 Goku ("while their current power levels may be in the same class, Trunks has, albeit, ever so slightly, the upper hand...") but he's at same level as SS3 Goku ("He hasn't even transformed... but he's powered up nearly the same amount as Kakarot has in Super Saiyan 3"). If Trunks' base isn't stronger than Goku's, how the fuck he can be equal to SS3 Goku using a weaker form?
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>>153149364
>black person
>foreigner
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>>153149373
>putting filthy ningen hands over best boys
Delete this now ningen
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>>153149308
>ningen
>Toeishills are zamasufags

Again, not surprised
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>>153149308
TOYOKEKS BTFO
ENJOY YOUR GEORGE LUCAS TIER FANFICTION
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>>153149294
>A ningen fighting on par with a god was something Zamasu was unable to comprehend
Which is stupid considering he's supposed to be watching over Mortals and should know this already, the next tournament arc is going to make Zamasu look like even more of a fool unless U10 is weak as shit.

>the fact that Goku did made Zamasu resent ningens more.
Yeah so he was butthurt Goku was stronger.
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So why exactly besides bandwagon jumping do you hate gt?
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>>153149083
>Trunks SS2 stronger than Goku's SS3
>God form wasn't absorbed into base, still a readily accessible transformation

>bad
Enjoy your (You), anon
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>>153149317
shut up manlet
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>>153149208
SS levels are multipliers of base power not set power levels

so SS2 can be stronger than SS3
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>>153149437
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>>153149308
I commend whoever went out of their way to find gay porn just to shitpost about this anime vs manga argument, you're doing God's work, lad
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>>153149308
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>153149357
But that wasn't Trunks SS2 that was Trunks SSRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

>>153149440
That's all awful
>Trunks stronger than a form that gives a multiplier quadruple that of SS2 in SS2, signalling he's 4X Goku's base at least
>God form still a thing, a useless shitty thing

Terrible now apologize right now
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>>153149495
yeah because gay porn is so hard to find
fucking retard
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>>153149480
but then that implies that Base Trunks >>>> Base Goku

Which is retarded.
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>>153149515
SS multipliers are a lot different than they used to be
same goes for the shitty anime
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>>153149495
kek spotted the insecure toyocuck
>>
How the Tournament of Power arc will end.
>Every universe that lost gets obliterated.
>Universe 6 if the first to go.
>It all comes down to Goku and somebody not seen fighting.
>Goku rages similar to Freeza arc and explodes into new form.
>Displays he is stronger then any gods.
>Universe 7 is safe.
>You may have anything you want.
>Goku asks for Zeno to bring back the universes.
Nope.
>Why.
>The whole point of this was that Zeno couldn't handle so many universes at once and it would be easier to just have one job instead of 10.
>Goku asks for everybody to be placed into Universe 7 instead.
>Goku happy clam because "NOW I GOT ALL SORTS OF STRONG GUYS TO FIGHT!"
>Zeno leaves everything in the hands of the gods instead and takes a nap.
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>>153149516
Yeah it's easy when you already have all of those sites bookmarked.
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>>153149515
>Trunks base is 4X Goku's at least
And that's bad because...

>God form still a thing, a useless shitty thing
So, according to you, god ki in base form (as in the anime) is useless too, because they have Blue too?
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>>153149397
>Are you literally retarded?
No but clearly you are, base Goku easily blocked a punch from an enraged base Trunks and Trunks was clearly tired fighting base Vegeta in the Gravity room while Vegeta was a ok.


>SS2 Trunks isn't only stronger than SS2 Goku ("while their current power levels may be in the same class, Trunks has, albeit, ever so slightly, the upper hand...")
Goku was blocking Trunks with a single finger, retard.

>but he's powered up nearly the same amount as Kakarot has in Super Saiyan 3"). If Trunks' base isn't stronger than Goku's, how the fuck he can be equal to SS3 Goku using a weaker form?
Because his second version of SS2 is an improved version with a high multiplier. Did you even read the Cell saga? Goku and Gohan did the same with SS1.
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>>153149480
An SS2 can be stronger than SS3, but the margin of improvement from 2 > 3 is 4x, so Trunks would have to completely fucking dwarf Goku.
Which is just stupid at that point because it's making your big merchandise mover look like a literal jabroni.
i.e,

>>153149551
They ain't tho
Not until you can provide me numbers and evidence that usurp what we have accepted as canon are they any different
Which you can't

>>153149601
>>Trunks base is 4X Goku's at least
>And that's bad because...

Holy fuck the state of this Toyocuck
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>>153149597
>implying anybody has literally every gay porn site bookmarked
are toeifags really this stupid?
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>>153149393
>No, this is literally what makes the character interesting you dumb fuck
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sure kid.
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>>153146788
what is going on here exactly?
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>>153149515
>Trunks stronger than a form that gives a multiplier quadruple that of SS2 in SS2, signalling he's 4X Goku's base at least

Nah. Trunks initially transforms into SSJ2 and matches Goku, but when Goku goes SSJ3 he says that he wasn't satisfied with SSJ2's power either and then further power ups into some improved SSJ2 that matches Goku's SSJ3. It's not like his base SSJ2 is shown to be above Goku's, he just improved the transformation itself.
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>hur hur, Trunks' base becoming several times stronger than Goku's? That's retarded, totally impossible!
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>>153149665
just ignore that faggot he's 100% retarded
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>>153149628
higher multiplier*
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>>153149694
>powerlevels
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>>153149648
>mangafag thinks "all of those" means literally every single one that fits the description and doesn't just refer to all of the ones in that specific collection
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>>153149694
are you fucking retarded?
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Anyone wish the SSJG had edgy tattoos as well so it didnt look like some copy pasted shitty transformation?
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>>153149677
So you're telling me that SSJ2 went from a 100x multiplier to, what 300x?
This is just nonsense at this point and Trunks' base being that much stronger than Goku's is retarded.

>>153149694
Goku trained with Whis
Even if you're pretending that doesn't effect his base form at all, and only allows him to use new god-mode states, Trunks being not stronger, but several times stronger than his base, post-ANGEL TRAINING, is fucking stupid.
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>>153149308
I have no use for this as the dragonball circles i post in have all the mexicans just hating on super, instead of sucking the manga cock, but I commend the effort as those faggots are pissing me off, always on and on about how yamcha should be spotlighted and not made fun of
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>Toeichads
>Handsome
>Smart
>Understand Goku's character
>Watches Geekdom101

>Toyopedros
>Don't know what the fuck is a bath
>Probably virgins
>Think Goku is an epic hero
>Watches ForneverWorld

GET BTFO ONCE AGAIN SPICS AND GO MASTURBATE WITH TRACERTARO
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>>153149694
>getting a booboo from Black makes you as strong as a guy who has been consistently training in the Otherworld and with literal Gods

God you Cuckataro fags are pathetic
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>>153149726
>toeispic thinks "all" doesn't mean "all"
leave it to spics not to know the language before illegally hopping the border
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>>153149776
Trunks trained with kaioshins, Goku never had the chance to do this, he only trained with King Kai who is far weaker than them.
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>>153149694
>Taking PL numbers seriously.
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>>153149665
>>153149695
>REEEE WHY ISN'T THE CHARACTER A STOIC BADASS I CAN PROJECT MYSELF INTO IN MY ESCAPIST FANTASIES
>BAD WRITING BAD WRITING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yeah, fuck off you infantile faggot
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>>153149796
add based daddy Seth to the Toeichads

>>153149829
And Goku trained with Whis.
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>>153149796
>Watches geekdom101
Seththeprogrammer is more based
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>>153149752
>SSR

Love the effects

>SS

Love the colors

>Base

Meh

Good job anyway
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>>153147498
jaco's pissed off for real this time.
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>>153149863
what the fuck are you on about, spic?
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>>153149628
>Goku block a punch
And later Goku and Trunks fight and Whis says Trunks is above Goku when they are SS2, and as soon Trunks fight seriously Vegeta say he's SS3 tier.

>Goku was blocking Trunks with a single finger, retard.
And Whis said, in the same page, Trunks was still above Goku.

>second version of SS2
Nice headcanon.

>Goku and Gohan did the same with SS1
Shit, are you one of those retardeds who think "SS Full power" is a stronger version of SS?
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>>153149829
>Trunks trained with kaioshins

HAHAHAHAH oh yeah, training with the Supreme Jobber who shit his pants at the sight of a SSJ really propelled Trunks to new heights.
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>>153149875
YOOOOO I SAID THE SAME SHIT THATS SPOOKY
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>>153149776
>So you're telling me that SSJ2 went from a 100x multiplier to, what 300x?
>This is just nonsense at this point
It's not really that odd when you look at the Cell arc. SSJ1 ends up much stronger by the time of the Cell Games than at the start even though it's technically the same level.
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>>153149752
>stretched images
awful
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>>153149933
papa Seth and Chuck the Cyber C U C K are seemingly /a/'s guys
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>>153149907
>being this retarded
wew
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>>153149900
>yfw Bulma and the rest time traveling again

Jaco got tired of everyone's shit
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>>153149907
>Shit, are you one of those retardeds who think "SS Full power" is a stronger version of SS?

It consumes less energy to the point that the results is a much stronger Goku or Gohan than before that training. Saying that it's not a stronger SSJ is basically semantics. Every character clearly senses a much stronger ki than before.
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>>153149944
And then SSJ2 still went far-and-away ahead of it.
Not to mention as people have said Goku's training was of a much higher caliber than Trunks'.
There's really no excuse other than a Trunksjerk. It's pretty bad in the anime, too, but there at least Goku has god powers in base, so you can just pretend he was toning himself down. But the manga has no such caveat.
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>Multipliers

I bet you think Trunks base is stronger than Goku base because his SS2 is stronger
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>>153149966
Pretty much
>Also checked
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>>153150040
Trunks mastered the Z Sword though. Gohan trained one or two days with it and thought that he had gotten strong enough to defeat Fat Buu and Goku didn't immediately deny the idea even though he wasn't sure.
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>>153149806
Show me any proof or hint of base Goku (in the manga, not god ki in base form) being 30 times stronger than Cell Games base Goku to make impossible a stronger base Trunks via zenkai.
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>>153150179
>in the manga

Sorry I don't read that fanfiction shit.
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Reminder
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>>153150210
>Sorry, I only watch fanfiction.
FTFY
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>>153149806
>Cuckataro

??? Happened the same in the anime
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>>153149776
>Goku trained with Whis
So Black arc-Goku's base form (in the manga) is 30 times stronger than Cell Games-Goku's because he trained a year with Whis? Can you prove your headcanon?
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>>153150210
Looks like I win, again
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Can you fags stop sperging out over retarded shit for just a second and start discussing something more important like OUR FUCKING GUY BEING ABLE TO GO MYSTIC AGAIN!!
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>>153150259
Toei shills are kind of stupid
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>>153150210
>no argument
Good
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>>153150275
>literally thinks training by an angel isn't enough to get within half of powerful as Trunks' base

Tracertaro fags blowing themselves out
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>>153150295
No one cares, Gohanfag.
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>>153150032
What if he is actually the leader of a multiversal galactic patrol and thinks goku is a criminal for setting the tournament up?
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>>153150295
Nah he can't
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>>153150293
Nope, I just used common sense. There is literally nothing you can say that will justify the mess that is Manga Trunks.

I'll accept your concession, though.
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Did they make the tournament stage really dark on purpose so they won't have to worry about animating a background during fights?
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>>153150319
>>literally thinks training by an angel isn't enough to get within half of powerful as Trunks' base

I thought we were talking about the manga
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>>153149997
>no argument
wew

>>153150034
>consumes less energy
>so the result is a much stronger Goku or Gohan
What's wrong with your brain?

>Every character clearly senses a much stronger ki than before.
Yeah, because they are stronger than before. If Goku's base form is stronger, his SS form is stronger too, that's how multipliers works. But there's no hint of a stronger multiplier.
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>>153150427
Probably.
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>>153150443
>posts something separate from the discussion
>toyocucks can't even keep a consistent train of thought
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>>153150361
>There is literally nothing you can say that will justify the mess that is Manga Trunks.

Trunks' SS2 is stronger than Goku's, that's all

Only powerlevelfags get mad at something so stupid and simple
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>>153150443
>>
I CANT GET NO SA-TIS-FAC-TION
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>>153146013
>Zeno tell the gods all the idea was from a noble warrior called Goku
>Every universe want to kill Goku
What is going to happen , Clown universe even have Superhero clothes.
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>>153150478
>separate from the discussion

Trunks' new form is stronger than SSB, that means base Trunks is stronger than base Goku and Vegeta in the anime
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>>153150524
Swing and a miss.
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>>153150295
yeah fuck it why not?nothing worse than what is happening already
gohanfags>anime vs manga shitters
lesser of 2 evils
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We can all agree that Krillin is the strongest human though right?
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>>153150319
>according to my headcanon, Goku's base is 1235813 times stronger than before, so even if Trunks becomes 33 times stronger, Goku should be stronger!
OK pal nice assumptions
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>>153150543
>No argument

Looks like a win, again and again
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>>153146013
The clown is a human who became strong doing something stupid a la saitama.
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>>153150571
4-0 when?
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>>153150361
>LITERALLY no argument
really nigger?
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>>153150579
t. Tracertaro

>>153150582
Concession accepted
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>>153149226
Nice opinion faget, doesn't change the fact black coming to exist is contrived as fuck in the manga.

Did you miss the whole segment of how Gowasu taking a non-intervetionist policy on ningens further pushed Zamasu to the edge?

those scenes served multiple purposes

1. they showed Zamasu building the resolve to do what he felt was necessary.

2. It established Zamasu's "justice" was something his fellow kai's would never approve of which adds a layer to the fact he killed his teacher and the other kais- he came to resent them because from his point of view they allowed filthy ningens sully the rest of creation.

>>153149423

And why does it matter if he watched over mortals?

Zamasu's character is young and foolish, shit Gowasu's character is portrayed to be the opposite to serve as contrast.

regardless even in the main universe we can count the number of mortals stronger than kais with one hand.

the universe is so fucking vast and meeting mortals is such a rare occurence someone with the traits of Zamasu would come to the conclusion Gods>Ningens.
>Yeah so he was butthurt goku was stronger
And Goku essentially swinging his ki dick in front of him made him hate ningens a
lot more than he would watching them from afar.
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>>153149327
>>153145808
Fighter that use ki/chi aren't tough all the time. They need to infuse their body with ki for the overwhelming vast majority of their power. But maintaining the ki state is not cheap, thus they don't constantly reinforce their body with ki. Think of it as diverting power to various functions in starships or constant effect buffs that drains mana per second.
And in the DBZverse, the level of control over your ki and how well you can gather them is the PRIME determine factor of how powerful you are. Actual physical strength have little bearing on how tough you really are.
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>>153150503
This.
Captain Ayylmao will bring the righetous fist of purgation against the evil saiyan who brought ruin upon the Universes.
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>>153150524
Anime Trunks is weaker than Goku, so that shitty new form is EVEN STRONGER than Blue

Why should we care about Whis and his stupid training when we can cry like bitches and go from below Buu tier to Rose tier
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>>153150626
>t. Tracertaro
HAHA you totally got me! You totally proved your headcanon! Man, toeichads are awesome
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>>153150626
>Concession accepted

I see, anime gets BTFO by superior manga, as always
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>>153149964
hope this one is better
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>>153150745
>>153150758

>Man, toeichads are awesome

Concessions certainly accepted
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>>153150794
I masturbate your concession xD
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What's with this concession meme?
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what do you people think the first appearance of ayy in the actual anime will be like
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>>153145808
Has the tournament started yet? Need to know if its worth while to start watching again
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>>153150893
Not the tournament itself yet, it will start in next week I guess.
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Novice drawfag taking requests if they're good
Also if this comes out sideways I'm done
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>>153146788
>a Kai and a Kai+Goku's body
>they cannot sense Mai's ki

Why. What shitty training do these Kais have? Do they even train at all?
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>>153147977
why is beerus there?
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>>153150937
>>153150893
next week is the future zeno wanting to see what a tournament/fight is like. So next week is not the begining yet
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>>153150867
>hooded figure
>"THIS IS OUR FIGHTER"
>takes off hood
>heems a nobody that never shows up ever again
>or
>heems Hit
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Hey guys,

Texted my wife earlier today that I was planning on reading the entire Super manga in excitement over the new arc. She just texted me right now that she probably wasn't going to come home until tomorrow because she was going over her coworkers house or something, which means I should have a lot of peace and quiet time to read over the manga.

Anyways, would any of you nice fellows happen to have a link to a quality scan?
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>>153151002
>>153150937
sweet haven't watched since zeno made friends with himself.
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>>153150991
Read the chapter dumbass
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>>153150789
Better but there should be like a Rose image right behind base Black
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>>153150692
>SSA seems to be a form below SSB, literally a demi-Blue
>but SSA Trunks is stronger than SSB Goku/Vegeta

>so, Toyotaro make Trunks' base stronger than Goku's to make logical SSA Trunks surpassing SSB Goku
>Toei just make Trunks' base weaker than Goku's, making of SSA a form stronger than SSB in the anime

based Toyo
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>>153151039
>Texted my wife earlier today that I was planning on reading the entire Super manga in excitement over the new arc. She just texted me right now that she probably wasn't going to come home until tomorrow because she was going over her coworkers house or something, which means I should have a lot of peace and quiet time to read over the manga.
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>>153151128
>>153151039
go away samefag
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>>153147164
>head-canon.
the picture in the OP seems to tell me its not head canon at all
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>>153151122
>so, Toyotaro make Trunks' base stronger than Goku's
This retard again.
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>>153145808
Goku durability is shit compare to superman
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>>153151122
>Tracertaro desperately shilling himself
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>>153150991
>>they cannot sense Mai's ki
They can, that's the entire point of the scene. Read the chapter and enjoy Toyotaro's superior writing. Unless you prefer Toei's...
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>>153151226
based Toei
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>>153151152
???
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>>153151226
It is cool and all, but how Goku and Vegeta know how to use the Time Machine?
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>>153151122
Retard.
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>>153151321
>tabs
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>>153151321
nice edit bud, we're all very impressed
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>>153151064
>>153151226

I was expecting for the arc in the manga to be over to read it. I am tired of reading shit weekly or monthly

>Toei Plis
Fuck them. They completely fucked a great potential arc.
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>>153147785
>Chichi stops Goten from flying off
I hate it
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>>153150842
Butthurt autists acting condescending to make other autists butthurt.
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>>153151165
Are you mad because your "SS Full power" forms are just headcanon?
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I cant find the chapters in the manga where they face freeza or the chapters where they show the dragon wish for the tournament arc, the site I was reading them from appears to be missing pieces all over.

Anyone has those in the manga?
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>>153151456
>if i get assblasted and make another image they're sure to listen to me
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>>153151326
>how Goku and Vegeta know how to use the Time Machine?
>HOW
Even Cell used the time machine, dude. If the coordinates are setted even Goten can use the time machine. Even Toei-Goku can.
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>>153151566
???
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>>153148123
i must accept. this really makes me think
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>>153151456
>implying base Goku is stronger than base Trunks because blocked a punch
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>>153151321
>tabs
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>>153151624
>Still being retarded
wew
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>>153151624
That makes the anime version even worse
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>>153145808
Didn't Goku take a gunshot in the head from Bulma as a kid as like the first fucking thing that happens in dragonball?

It hurt him, but he was completely fine. It was like a paintball to him.
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>>153149327
Yeah, but that was Krillin throwing a rock at Goku while he was sleeping. And it might have been a filler episode. Not sure.
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>>153151571
>Even Toei-Goku can.
I wouldn't go that far.
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>>153151553
hahaha >>153151639 eat shit retard
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>>153151679
Yes, he has consistently been hurt by bullets but he doesnt get wounded, he gets a scratch at most, just like what happened in the last episode.
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>>153151624
>base Trunks
>Stronger than Goku

2/10 made me reply but good job
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>>153145808
>a pedro le gusta gt
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>>153151679
It's just PIS to make Goku go to Whis

At least it was just a scratch and didn't actually penetrate his skin
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>>153151734
Your first post doesn't exist
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>>153151797
you'd have to have seen it to understand
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>>153151730
Toei-Goku has been revealed to be a string-pulling mastermind.
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>>153151849
no, he has not
keep your headcanon to yourself, paco
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>>153151893
t. Retard who can not see Toei's patrician writing

Maybe GT is more your pace, eh Pedro?
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>>153151893
the pacos are the ones that hate the idea of Goku not being a hero, you are confusing the insults.

All the mexicans are freaking out over the possibility that goku isnt el supermano
>>
this thread is just false flaggers fighting false flaggers, isn't it?
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>>153151915
>this much headcanon
jeez bud
>>153151922
nah bud, the spics are cumming themselves thinking of another evil goku arc
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>>153151944
the only headcanons i have are my nostrils my spicy latino friend
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I want to rape her. Is this wrong?
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>>153151922
>the pacos are the ones that hate the idea of Goku not being a hero

What? spics love edgy dbz characters, not hero Goku

They love SS namek Goku, SS2 Gohan and Majin Vegeta
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>>153152008
>rape
>wrong
no way
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>>153152008
I don't know anon, what do you think?
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>>153150352
>has a saiyan and a beerus species person who re only in U6/7
>mustachio is probably also from another universe
>matching outfits

holy shit this is problably it
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>>153151679

see:>>153150635

In the db case, Goku was obviously in combat or agitated state for the ki/chi to be active.
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NINGENS!
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https://www.rabb.it/Anon272

gonna stream fusion in a while

come and join
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Is there a universe where Goku never came to earth so the Red Ribbon Army got to conquer the world and Dr. Gero brand cyborgs overpower all external threats?
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>>153152125
>filename isn't called ZAMASS
What a ningen
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>>153150635
This is so dumb, they learnt in the cell saga to maintain fucking SSJ literally forever if they wanted to. The idea that he wasn't protecting himself with enough ki passively to prevent even a measly bullet is ridiculous.
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>>153152143
Universes and timelines are different things in DB
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>>153151651
>still no argument
wew
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>>153152034
SS Namek Goku was his high-point tho.
Him struggling with his dislike for killing and the absolute cunt tyrant Frieza was forcing him to was based.
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>>153152143
No, Salagir
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>>153152215
>his dislike for killing
what did he mean by this?
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>>153152143
Closest thing I can think of is the timeline that cell originally came from where he kills Trunks. But the androids were dead in that timeline.
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>consent
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>>153152092
I thought FemBroly was U6?
Her design is very similar to Cabba's and she hasn't been shown in their red/black attire.
Also how do you know Beerus' race is intimate to U6/7?
Champa and Beerus are spread out across each Universe despite being twins, they can't be from different universes. Which shows that allocation may uproot people from their native universe.
9 is probably Beerus/Champa's home-universe, in that case.
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>>153152143
We already have that Timeline.

King Piccolo got involved, and then Babidi.

A cool Freezie-pop dude showed up and saved everyone.
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>>153152143
I'm not a cyborg.
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>>153152288
She IS from U6, the autists just don't understand the idea of showing off fighters.
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>>153152171
They are maintaining the SSJ state but that doesn't mean they activated defensive ki reinforcement. It is even demonstrated again when Goku's chest was pierced in SSB state. Just because you're in SSJ mode doesn't give ki reinforcement/buff for free, you need to manually activate your ki defense/offense.
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>>153152008
>not wanting her to rape you
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>>153152284
>Barry turns out to be even more evil than Buu
Pottery.
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it's Goku being so bored and wanting to fight strong opponents so much that he slowly turns into a menace

> His Smile in the opening when he's surrounded by the crimson Aura

>The lyrics of the Opening are about Goku being bored
''I can't get no satisfaction''
"boredom turns into a stone"
" I wanna Laugh like Crazy"
"I will blow Zeno away"

>Gets Zeno to hold The tournament Power Where universe are going to be destroyed

>The Parallel of Goku and Raditz

> Beerus openly states that Goku is getting too dangerous and completely out of control

>Goten finally getting stuff to do remember Toriyama only created goten to "replace goku" in the buu saga

>Ayy Lmao's team being the Major fight it seems they look like superheroes with the matching outfits
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>>153152383
It's not rape if you want it anon
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>>153152434
aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhh
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>>153149966
Daddy Seth and the cuck enjoy the manga and anime both.
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>>153152355
I forgot to mention the part where all of Super is complete bullshit in the first place and retconns basically everything that happens prior because he forgot how to tell a story with consistency.
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>goku literally caused Zen-chan to hold a Mortal Kombat tournament

Why is he the main character again?
>>
>That opening scene of Mystical Adventure
Did Tao just kill the Pilaf gang? This movie is weird as shit. It's like 70% of Dragon Ball compressed into one movie.
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>>153148137
>>153148137
>>153148186
Seeing this makes me wanna cry my eyes out at how terrible the Anime is in every single way. WHYYY TOEII WHY DON'T YOU CAREE
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>>153152563
>liking traced shit
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>>153152585
>no proof of tracing in super
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>>153152486
it was always the case that ki is the main factor in determining how strong you are. its ki that allow fighters to demonstrate superhuman feats despite not having massive muscles.
Think of the ki reinforcement as auras that requires a portion of your mana reserve to utilize like in the diablo-style action rpgs.
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>>153152478
ANGEL GET CAPTAIN AYY LMAO OF MY ELITE FIGHTING FORCE THEIRS A MONKEY THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF
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>>153152143
Androids would never have overpowered shit. They were made with Goku in mind.
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>>153152434
meanwhile the ED's lyrics are about Goku's twisted conscience screwing with him
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>>153152543
Because he does shit like this.

>>153152563
>trying to start another anime vs manga debate an hour or two after the old one stopped

Nobody cares anymore
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>>153152034
>What? spics love edgy dbz characters, not hero Goku

You're confusing burgers with spics, understandable because of some many mexicans in the united states though.

You do realize Dragon Ball was super popular with spics and everyone else in the world right? They like the original dragon ball.

They also like DBZ but the ones that like edgy Debezee are toonami braindead morons.

You're misplacing your insults because you want to blame others for the shit taste burgers have, and we all know almost everyone here is a burger.

If you want to have the majority of burger opinion just go to /co/, toonami generals, there you'll realize that burgers love edgy trash and they hate comedy and normal stuff.

No spic was complaining when Vegeta and Goku were training with those housewife clothes because they had already seen and enjoyed Dragon Ball, unlike toonami babies that thought Super was ruining muh characters. No spic was mad with the Arale episode because they also watched and Dr Slump(not to mention she appeared in the original DB) unlike burgers that know nothing about it
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>>153152726
>Nobody cares anymore
>literally every thread has debates in it
WEW LAD
GO FUCK YOURSELF TOEIFAGGOT
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>>153148829
DELETE THIS
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>>153152679
yeah
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>>153148394
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>>153152779
MAI
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>>153152611
Gero's last time seeing Goku was in the Saiyan Saga, and yet the Androids were much stronger than that. He wasn't just making something 'strong enough' to beat Goku.
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>>153152746
>That smugness
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>>153152602
Booze-sama I Captain Ayy of your elite guard will destroy The Menace of Son Goku
>>
>seeing the OP for the first time
>10 participants to to the new tournament instead of the usual 5

So how they are going to fill in this roster?

>Goku
>Gohan
>Vegeta
>Piccolo
>Buu
>18
>17 (I'll be honest. I'm curious with this development)
>Krillin
>Roshi
>Tenshinhan?

I suppose they could fit in Monaco somewhere, but knowing how dire this tournament is, Beerus probably say he's excluded for reasons.
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>>153152984
Save us, Captain Ayyce! You're our only hope!
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>>153152478
>>153152602
Great Saiyaman I need you to do something you may not like
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>>153153062
are you retarded?
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>>153153062
We've known this for fucking months anon
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>>153153090
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>>153150295
You know, that's not really that good. Sure. he'll be the only one besides Goku that will be have a relevant base form but he's still miles below SSJ Blue. He is just a bit stronger than SSJ3, afterall.
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I miss when these threads were inages of cropped porn and zamasu posting
now we only have the former
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>>153153106
>>153153120

What's the full list then? I'm sorry since I don't check on this general since best boy Zamasu died.
>>
is Toriyama a DCuck?
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>>153146507
That's not 18
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>>153147533
>>>
smartass
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>>153153171
just leave, stupid toeispic
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>>153145808
Goku at his level in base form should be able to tank 100 nukes without getting a single scratch. Again bad writing, dbz characters are actually weak compared to the top tiers of comics and other anime.
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>>153153182
I heard the galactic patrol was based on the Lantern Corps so probably
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>>153153207
muh powerlevels
muh souperman
muh def bettle
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>>153153153
>He is just a bit stronger than SSJ3, afterall.
buu saga ssj3 you mean
goku is leagues more powerful now
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>>153153207

His super saiyan form nearly died to a fucking laser though. :^)
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>>153152478
Its missing the ¨damaged¨ tatto
pls fix
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>>153153171
>What's the full list then?
It's the one you posted. The characters show in the opening line up at the end.
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>>153150295
That blue spark better be something new. "Mystic" is significantly weaker than god boosted base.
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>>153153078
I GOT YOU LEAVE HIM TOO ME
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>>153146864
Fucking zamasu fags
>Loves their guy ninger killer universal ass pull
>Thinks the genki Dama sword is worse
Reminder that every other villain>zamasu
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>>153153342
>god boosted base
nice toei headcanon you toeispic
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>>153153207

see:
>>153150635
>>153152355
>>153152601
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>>153152679
riiiiiiiigggghhhht-t-t-t
>GETS UPSET PEOPLE DIE!
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>>153153374

But Freeza ends up being the buttmonkey in recent episodes. No one took him seriously like they were used to.

At least Zamasu was ruthless enough to kill.
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>>153147680
>Implying Zeno is that much of an asshole, especially to Goku
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>>153153207
>>153153379
It's nothing that requires validation.
It's just PiS to further the plot.
Goku has taken planet-busting shit to the dome and didn't give a fuck.
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I have a very bad feeling about the "angels". I even think Whis is bad.
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>>153146854
>weak fragile girl
>powers up
>hair turns gold and she has an insatiable lust for battle
>base power multiplies tenfold
the original super saiyan
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Do you actually think the other 8 z fighters that aren't goku/vegeta are goin to get action? What's the point in having them fight when any opponent on par with them could get effortlessly flicked away by goku?
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>>153150459
>Yeah, because they are stronger than before. If Goku's base form is stronger, his SS form is stronger too, that's how multipliers works. But there's no hint of a stronger multiplier.

They never talk about strengthening their base there though. The only thing they mention is reducing SSJ's energy consumption and how the variations that were stronger but slower or consuming more energy were the wrong way to go about it. There's nothing at all suggesting that Goku somehow figured out a way to make his base multiple times stronger in the Cell Saga. The whole focus of the script is on cutting the energy waste of SSJ.

"There's no hint of a stronger multiplier" because multipliers for the SSJ forms are never mentioned at all in the manga, they're just something that must exist otherwise Kaioken eventually would be better than SSJ.
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>>153153207
Well Dragon Ball Super has many issues, first of all it's animation was really inconsistent in it's first few episodes, since then it has improved on that aspect.
Though a lot of people exaggerate on how bad the animation really was by showing a certain frame, though you can do that with any animation and say how bad it looks, frames are not meant to be looked at as a picture.
Second, is that there isn't much character development for anyone involved, or rather not very good characterization. Nobody seems to change in some way, like Gohan growing from a scared child into a warrior. Goku has become a complete idiot who only cares about fighting, he would let the Earth get destroyed just for a fight.
And that brings me to the next point, there is no feeling of urgency. Of dread like we had with the Androids, Frieza, Cell or Buu. So far the only threat they had was Frieza returning, but when it seemed like he won a new character turned time around and everything was fixed.
The fights are not very interesting, they are just boring punches and kicks done rather slowly and some ki blasts thrown in. No complex fights yet or hard fights.
Quite a lot of the new characters feel like Mary Sues who just get stronger because they get stronger, a new sayian kid is added and he learns Super Sayian immediately. A guy who can stop time for a bit is added and he just becomes stronger in the middle of the fight, and he says he is improving. Despite not needing to do that in hundreds of years.
And also, it's the original Japanese version so it may not be fit for a Western audience. The music is different, Goku sounds like a child who took up smoking in the womb, because he is voiced by a 70 year old woman and so on.
And that's about it I guess, it really isn't anything great as a series. It's kinda mediocre, and if it did not have Dragonball in it's name everyone would have forgotten about it.
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>>153150229

Do you know where I can find high-quality scans of the Dragon Ball manga from the Raditz sage to the Buu saga? It seems like everyone is hosting the shitty 2009-era scanlations, and I'm really interested in finding more of Toriyama's original inks.
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>>153147888
I don't get it
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>>153153285
It was...hilar-ious
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>>153153419
Yeah black and merged zamasu being a threat is fine but him dying and then LOL NOPE WE UNIVERSE NOW was fucking retarded
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Guys what if Goku simply realized that people become stronger when they have to fight a strong villain
So he decides to become THE STRONGEST VILLAIN ever so that everyone becomes powerful and fights him
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>>153153374
Which is the bigger asspull, Zamasu turning into a Geocities wallpaper or Cell's revival and subsequent powerup?
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>>153153371
Where's his LoP??????
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>>153153538
fuck
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>>153153483
Well it was a hyperbolic statement.
But I just can't believe that three episodes ago we had the best artwork/animation of this current series, that we had an episode so chock full of insane action and "holy shit" from an arm-breaking (and supergod halo-breaking?) kamehameha, to Super Saya-Jin God Blue Vegitto, to a spontaneous ki-sword, and a personified spirit bomb Super Trunks, amplified by both Goku's and Vegeta's spirits, and in the next episode the complete and total destruction of the original Dragonball universe and the emotional moment between Future Trunks and our timeline's Gohan and all of that... to possibly the sloppiest drawn and animated and dumbest little filler story episode.
Even if it had at least been drawn and animated with a slight bit of integrity it would have been that little bit better. I mean, Vegeta looked straight out as though this was a fan-made episode throughout the whole thing. The animated Dragonball Multiverse is done better.
But again I was being hyperbolic, I really did hate this episode though. I'm thankful that 69 is such an easy number to remember because whenever I give this series a rewatch I won't be watching this one.
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Why do people think Goku is completely bulletproof? Since the start of DB, Bulma shoots him in the head and he gets a small buzz. His Saiyan physiology makes it so he won't die from them but he can get scratched, specially if he doesn't use any ki to fortify his body like on RoF but he probably wouldn't do it against humans from the risk of killing them.
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>>153153604
>>153153483
that's wrong, it would not.
the point is that while la and ra are different sounds for an english speaker, there's no distinction in japanese, there's a single sound la/ra that is used for both.
when japanese speakers transcribe english words to katakana they will turn both la and ra into ラ. [that means we have ambiguity in the other direction.]
here the makers of dragon ball had an english word (bra, piece of underwear) in mind after which they named the character ブラ (bura or bula). now if you are going back from katakana to english this will give some ambiguity. the trick is to guess correctly and well, it goes back to poor english translations that gave as "bulla" at some point. but it was always wrong (it would be like using tulankusu = tlunks instead or trunks). it could be transcribed as bura or bula, but since the context is clear (underwear) it will have to be ra to give "bra".
btw similar is true for freezer who could be furiza or huriza from the japanese spelling, but since we know the word family his name is coming from (cold/frost/cooler/chilled), we will figure out they meant english word freezer (or if we are morons we will turn it into frieza for unknown reasons).
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>>153153631
This is not ok.
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>>153153604
It's passive versus active in that case. It makes him see more urgent and desperate to save Earth. Like I said minor characterization tweak. It doesn't change the story but it changes how you view the character. I'm not just talking about Goku though. "No Vegeta-ing of any kind" They changed some things around the same way they did in the Kai adaptation. Kai might be more accurate than the original but it's not 1 to 1. A ton of little changes that are mostly the same are a sign of a good adaptation but they add up and allow you to make the characters still come across as different. King Kai is a thousand times more interesting because of these small tweaks to the script. They could have went with an even closer translation and made the flaps work but they know what they're going for. They're not going for 1 to 1 or as close as they can get. They're going for what is the most interesting way to portray the seen while keeping the plot the same.
It was not an overreacting, for a franchise as popular as Dragon Ball, episode 5 looked (and still looks) disgusting. From the animation it's self to the character models up close and at a distance, it's all terrible. The reaction the internet had was reasonable, and it also had people from Toei responding, meaning they listened to the out cry; that is always a good thing.
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>>153153670
I believe Toriyama's said that the Androids still have enough of their original bodies left that they can improve through training; besides, they're stronger than Super Saiyans, putting them above the vast majority of the known universe, and (unless it gets forgotten) they have limitless stamina, meaning they can't tire out.
As for Tien, Roshi, and Krillin, I honestly think it's cool to see them in action and give them a chance to shine. If they stayed in the crowd, they'd just be glorified cheerleaders and commentators, if that. Letting them get involved in the action gives them the chance to make an impact for the first time in years, which seems like it would be way more meaningful for long-time fans.
One thing to keep in mind is that the strongest people in Universe 7 (not counting the Supreme Kais, Beerus, and Whis, who can't participate) were Freeza and Buu, prior to the heroes getting involved. Freeza's soldiers, the terror of the galaxy, were cannon fodder to the heroes (even Roshi), and Buu is on their team.
Plus, fighting isn't entirely about raw power - as Piccolo vs. Frost showed, having tactics and a variety of powers can bridge that gap.
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You guys realize that both Zenos were never the same in the first place because one is 7 years older right
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>>153153631
Delete this.
Delete this right now.
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what did toei mean by this?
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>>153153643
Buu and Freeza are the two strongest beings in U7 as far as the Kais are concerned before they are even aware Goku exists. Behind Freeza was the Ginyu force. First and foremost U7's earth is quite a special location as it is the only planet in all the multiverses with a known Guardian of its own.. Why wouldn't the warriors all live on earth? The place with the strongest mortals in the Universe, where they either trained with, fought against, or were pushed by Goku. Roshi is still full of surprises. I mean the dude forgot he drunkenly wrote down the instructions on how to build a fan that controls the weather. No telling what else he conveniently "forgot". Tien and Krillin are also full of potential, a potential that Krillin has yet to fulfill, as we learn in episode 76. Tien is yet to be seen when it comes to potential. Lastly... when they are assembling the team they have NO idea the losers of the tournament are erased from existence. Had they know that than Piccolo would have went to new namek and sucked up all the remaining Namekians to reach maximum power. Consider this, all those planets that Freeza destroyed, probably also had all those strong warrior races on them, and he knocked them down before they had a chance to be a problem. While in U7 Frost conned them all into Paying him, instead of destroying them all.
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>>153153631
oh boy
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>>153153734
No, the episode was actually just a regular solo episode by Yoshitaka Yashima (well, almost - he had one other key animator).

He's worked on the series since day one. He had some 2nd key animators whose job is to clean up his work as animating an episode entirely by yourself tends to produce rougher than normal results. It was a little most polished than his typical output, but nothing particularly out of the ordinary.


The two new directors are series directors, meaning they're not directly responsible for any animation quality, they simply oversee the production. They may have been the deciding factor in the new post-processing filters, but any perceived improvement in visuals is purely coincidental. We've just come off the back of two months of filler, much of which was conversative and out-sourced. Yashima himself has had ~7 weeks to get this episode done, so you're seeing the results of good scheduling over anything else.
The opening episodes of new arcs are generally good, but when things begin rolling, that's when the production starts to feel the strain. Right now, it's unclear how things will turn out.
If you're interested in keeping up with things, I run the Animation Catalogue over on Kanzenshuu. I document the different styles, while also providing insight into the production as the weeks go by. If not, by all means feel free to throw any questions at me.
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>>153153631
>pic
I can see this happening.
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>>153153567
I'd say they're both equal, cells was more retarded since his regeneration is supposed to be like piccolo's but piccolo and regrow limbs at most
Zamasus was the bigger asspull
I'd love to see the outrage if shin wished for immortality, potara fused with trunks, 'died' and became the universe, killed zamasu and became the ultimate protector of his timeline
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>>153153764
>>153153734
Maybe something similar to that. But a God Vs. Angel Vs. Zeno war sounds more like an story arc that would occur much, MUCH later down the road. I mean, we don't really have any reason for the Gods of Destruction and the Angels to split apart (for now), so I can't really see why anything like that would happen, especially because of how the Angels can beat the Gods of Destruction, and the Grand Priest can beat both of them, and Zeno, if he wanted, could lift a finger and they'd all go away forever. In conclusion, it's just too far-fetched for a Universal Tournament Theory, but it might be a theory for a later arc.

What if the angels and gods were to split up and take sides with each of the zenos after the present zeno refuses to destroy gokus universe after they loose, making the 2 zenos fight with each other. I'd personally love to see some gods fight eachother and some angels

When they kind of shut off Vegetto with new rules like that, there must be a reason. We all thought it was to give Trunks the finisher against Zamasu, but what if it actually goes beyond that and into deeper planning? If they are having group fights in this Universal tournament, Vegeta and Goku could go in together, be outmatched by two people and need to use Potara. If Bulla/Bra is born and all saiyans are present, they might have to use SSG to maintain such a powerful form for more than an hour or like 5 minutes. Since SSG is an actual godly form instead of just using god ki, there shouldn't be the strain from Potara. Goten, Trunks, Pan, Bulla/Bra, Gohan, Vegetto. All six have Saiyan lineage and would be acceptable, you could even throw Cabba in there if he felt obligated to Vegeta. And that may be a way for our heroes to defeat the greatest threat they've seen, one that could be stronger than Beerus or Champa. Maybe that menacing Gimli-looking Hakaishin?
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>>153146854
what happened to lunch again?
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>>153153538
A belated 'thank you very much'.
>>153153602
I'm not into necro.
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>>153153802
I've been wondering for a while now why Toei's marketing the shit out of this "Deadman" looking guy this early in the tournament arc, whom is presumably from universe 9. It just doesn't make sense to me why Toei would be showcasing the strongest guy this early.
So if Deadman isn't the strongest, would that mean that this tournament arc will consist of many mini-arcs where each mini-arc would be about the universe Goku and co. will be fighting against? Wouldn't that mean they would have to create new intro's for every universe they plan to introduce?
If my suspicions are correct, Toei must be going all out with this tournament arc trying really hard to beat the success of the Future Trunks arc
Given the massive number of new characters this arc could bring in, I can see them wanting to use this new guy as someone whom the audience can connect with. It's easier to showcase one guy than try and focus on everyone.
That was nearly 30 years ago...Chozetsu Dynamic didn't spoil anything, it just updated for the current arc...Super hasn't done that with their openings. Also it would be dumb for the arc to only showcase the fighters from one other universe.
I assume their battle will be towards the end of the arc. He could potentially be a villain.
By showcasing this strong fighter so early, people will want to see this battle play out but they'll have to keep interest in the product.
He's gonna be a good guy superman style character that needs to beat Goku,the one who put his universe at risk.
That's my prediction.
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>>153153807
Last seen during Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return. She's giving Tien booty calls or some such
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>>153153831
AYY LMAO ISNT A VILLAN HES A HERO
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>>153153830
I think this is what that means, Zeno oversees all GoD's of destruction, we can clearly see that not only is Zeno the top authority, he's also their "higher-up". If it was purely authority based, wouldn't the angels bow as well? Whis said there's no telling what he'd even do, so it doesn't seem like someone who can, on his own, run the whole omniverse smoothly. In some of my previous posts I was theorizing that Zeno precisely is the "Dai-Hakaishin". Despite Kaioshin's job being just as important as Hakaishin's (balance of creation and destruction), Hakaishin's are not only with more authority, but also power and it's implied they are higher in the chain. That's why Zeno is the most powerful force, nothing besides this is mentioned.
I think that all life comes from him, including the planets. Zeno just doesn't seem like a guy capable of doing such things, while someone who has "wishing" power could. After all, it is the DB's that can people back to live and make anything happen, so far we've just seen Zeno destroying planets and, once, creating a button that has unique color scheme like the guards, who match themselves in theme.
As for the board game, I think the planets matter the least in this. For them it was just losing a way of spending time.
I think they were upset about the board game because it wasn't a board game and they can't bring those planets back.
Zarama is interesting: His name sort of sounds like salamander, and we know that Nameks have been compared to lizards before. So, do Nameks come from Zarama?
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>Chichi
>There aren't any more bad guys, so train your head instead of your body
THIS IS THE MOMENT WHEN GOKU SNAPPED
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>>153148121
>or to see Freiza rehashed again
Frost will return. But he'll master the golden form, he'll have enough stamina to go the distance.
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>>153153886
He did mention that it hurt and was holding his cheek. Also, he was going all out in this scene (for Goku at the time). This means, if we use DBZ and DBS logic that we have learned from Whis' training, his ki was probably unconsciously raised, as he was on guard but didn't have complete Ki control. As such, while the bullet hit and hurt, it wouldn't have left an injury. Compare this to Goku getting hit by Sorbet's laser while his guard was down, Krillin being injured by the bullet when he wasn't using his ki to protect himself, and Goku actively keeping his own ki down in order to not kill the bandits. We've seen 3 in times in Super that if you aren't keeping your guard (ki) up, conventional weapons can affect you.
Likewise, early Dragon Ball was more of a gag manga. It got serious as the series went on, but in all honesty, never really lost it's gag manga roots with Toriyama's physical comedy and word play. Once the second half started it's comedy became reliant mostly on puns or visual gags, rather than physical comedy, such as exaggerated durability of it's characters.
Despite him saying, "I'm rusty" it makes sense. He had to lower his KI enough otherwise he would have killed the bandits. He was moving at super speed but it was probably dragon ball superspeed. Then when he got shot, he was possibly still at this decreased level. The bullet didn't pierce him. In the original dragon ball, every time he was shot, he still felt pain. This time Goku didn't feel pain, at least he wasn't vocal about it like in dragon ball.

What does everyone think? Make sense? Because we need to make sense of these inconsistencies as you get smug people claiming on YouTube, "lolz ez no superman, he no tank bullet"
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>>153148394
But he isn't hurt by throwing rocks unlike goku
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Dicasty Goku ripping into ChiChi in his Super Saiyan Burakku form when?
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>>153153933
>>153153934
Early Dragon Ball was a gag series. It was meant to be a comedy with martial arts seen as one of the vehicles for the comedy. It was an opportunity for unique physical comedy. You cannot tell me goofy stuff like Goku bouncing Yamucha off the top panel isn't gag-based manga humor. Toriyama is a self admitted gag-manga artist after all.
However, tone and direction can change with time as happened to Dragon Ball. His editor told him the manga wasn't very popular, so Toriyama changed directions in order to make it popular. He put Goku's motivation to be the strongest first and foremost, with gags falling to the secondary characters for the most part. That's when the first Budokai Tenkaichi happened, Krillin was introduced and Master Roshi was brought back. Krillin, Roshi, and Yamucha are then used as vehicles for the gags while Goku's story is more straight laced.
Oh, and when Goku is invading the Red Ribbon army the manga occasionally cuts back to the rest of his friends coming to help him, but bickering and joking along the way. So the manga does attempt to lighten the mood with comedy during these bits.
Each of your examples from Dragon Ball have similar comedic moments to balance out the drama. This is because Toriyama didn't want the world to get bogged down by anything too dark or dramatic, as was seen in typical action titles. He wanted to be different and light. The only real exception would be the Piccolo Daimao arc, which is when we get our first real arc devoid of major comedic moments. Yajirobe and the Pilaf gang give the audience some brief moments of levity, but for the most part we are left with a darker, dramatic story arc.
Yeah, but in the original manga, they are both the same thing. Dragon Ball moved on to be more and more action oriented and what you think of as 'Dragon Ball Z' is just an extension of that.
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>>153153604
Joseph Ducreaux would be quite displeased with the treatment of Episode nine after sixty. He'd even show his pimp hand, I'd wager.
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>>153153981
>>153153976
>>153153939
>>153153982
>>153154003
The King Piccolo arc is arguably darker than literally anything else that occurs in all of "Z".
I think that the vast majority of people who think this have not ever made it out past the first 10 episodes. The goofy world building. Because after that you've got:
Quite a serious tournament where Goku almost kills everyone and Roshi has to blow up the moon to save the day.
Goku solo-ing an entire evil army. Meanwhile his friend gets murdered. He plots and executes his revenge, murdering the killer (before the death was retconned). He then invades and murders countless soldiers.
A tournament against a new antagonist who is plotting to kill him. This antagonist ruthlessly breaks Yamchas leg. The quality and tone of the fights is intense and brilliant.
Krillin dies. Roshi dies. Chiaotzu dies. Shenron dies (and at the time this is totally irreparable). The bad guy achieves eternal youth, conquers the planet, and announces global genocide.
A clone of the previous bad guy returns, bent on murdering Goku and everyone before conquering the world. The tournament is even more awesome and intense than the others. Ends with Goku with a gaping hole in his chest.
But apparently DB is just a gag though.
I never said that one or the other was more serious. I realized that would be silly with the direction Dragonball went. It is just the nature of the fights are quite different.
The series are clearly different from one another. It seems absurd to me you are trying to argue otherwise. Even if they came from the same writer and Manga series, the differences are very pronounced by the fact that the genre literally changed when Radiz showed up.
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>>153153631
Good way to make a terrible point.
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>>>153154021
new thread
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>>153154022
>>153154003
No, it does not make sense at all, lowering his ki or not: he was pretty much using his ten-year old self's martial arts at the time against those robbers ( before Roshi trained him ) and at that point in time bullets did not leave marks on him. True, technology would've improved, but his actual physical muscle mass would have accommodated for it and not left any wounds at all. His entire body is probably just one big callous.
Both he and Krillin getting injured by bullets is just stupid. And before you say "BUT THE RAY GUN THAT SHOT GOKU": to me, that actually makes sense.
Ki has always been invisible except when they're used in high concentrations. And the ki passive shield is just an accepted fact, as that how it has always behaved, since the first episode. It's not like certain humans like Krillin have titanium skin and some don't.
Goku's biology hasn't magically went from metal-strength skin at the beginning to solar system-tanking skin. His body hardness hasn't magically increased, his ki has. And when you lower your ki like Goku did to just slightly superhuman level than any thing that penetrates the barrier will hurt you.

Walking out with only your clothes slightly damage and dirty or just pants is an anime trope.
Plus, there are already "ki barrier" techniques like with Gohan. Unless it's something clearly said in the show/manga about a passive ki shield that envelops the body then it's BS.

Do people think Saiyans have hard skin or something?
If Goku had no ki barrier around him a 50cal would blow his arm off. The reason why characters are so durable is because they have a barrier of ki around them at all time. That also explains why someone can fire a trillion ki blasts into someone and they walk out even with their clothes only slightly damaged.
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>>153154053
>Page 6
>136 Images
How do you guys even decide when to get a new thread?
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>>153153732
I guess it won't be Magus after all. Where did you go, bringer of Garlic, baker of best breads!!!!!?
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>>153153831
They put Hit front and center during the U6 tournament opening. The Alien is most likely going to be the new heavy hitter that will challenge Goku. As for the other fighters, it could be that Toei is showing off the important ones out of the 120 assembled. the Goku Crew, Hit, Cabba, Magetta, Frost, Cauli, Deadman's justice league and a potpourri of others from the various universes.
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>>153153934
>But he'll master the golden form
It'll probably be some other color. Frieza picked gold as a fuck you to the super saiyans
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>>153153631
>Since the start of DB, Bulma shoots him in the head and he gets a small buzz.
since then his powerlevel increased by millions
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>>153154097
When the old one reaches bump limit and goes to page 10.
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>>153154186
>since then his powerlevel increased by millions
Power level doesn't make your body immune to shit unless you use your ki. Remember when Krillin threw a rock at Goku? Same shit.
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Why the hell are Pilaf and co little kids?

I completely forgot.
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>>153154388
>>153154422
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>>153151745
Goku is as strong as he was when he was a child?

>>153152106
Goku did not know about Ki when he was shot by Bulma.
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Doesn't Goku keep his power level low when he's not fighting seriously? Whis gave him shit about that in Resurrection F.
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what caused videl to be written as such a badass in the broly GT movies, yet she's a total wimp in the actual show?
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>>153154878
They rolled with her action girl personality from the Great Saiyaman arc instead of having Spopovitch beat the fight right out of her. Hopefully Pan makes up for both of them
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>>153150998

Either another species or they made a Team Deathgod
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>Gohan beats Raditz
>Gohan beats Vegeta
>Gohan gets forced to leave Namek instead of killing Frieza
>Gohan beats a bunch of other random people in between this and the Cell Saga
>Gohan kills Cell
>Gohan kills Broly
>Gohan kills Bojack
>Gohan beats Super Buu and loses on a technicality

>Goku beats Frieza

wow :)
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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