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In the corner of this world finally beat Your Name in Japan boxoffice

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Does this mean nips finally realized what is the true masterpiece? What took them so long to overcome their shit taste?
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>In This Corner of the World tells the story of the adolescent Suzu, who in 1944 moves to the small town of Kure in Hiroshima to live with her husband’s family.
Oh fuck this
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It's a good movie. When I was watching it in Hamburg Germany the movie theater was full of Japanese people
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>>153133533
shouldn't have bombed pearl harbor, fucking nips.
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>>153133533
The critical success is kinda nuts, can't help but feel the film won't meet my expectations. I'm sure it'll be the best in a good while though.
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>>153133795
haha epic:D this is going on /pol/^
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>>153133557
>>153133664
>>153133795
How do we kill /pol/ from this board?
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>>153133932
Ignore it
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>>153133699
Same when I was in Cologne. The movie was really good too.

>>153133871
I felt that way too, going into the movie at first. The only part that did kinda let me down was the ending, otherwise it was really just fantastic
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Yamada BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>153133533
So is Yokai watch and that move has 2x the screening of In this corner of world but still fail to beat Shinkaishit
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>>153134220
Good to hear, I'm very hopeful.
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Man, many good movies recently. Sucks that blu-rays take fucking forever to come out.
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If Your Name is said to be guaranteed to surpass Titanic by the end of its run, hence making 2 billion yen more, does that mean In This Corner of The World can also make more than 2 billion yen more from now considering its holds are consistently stronger than Your Name?
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>>153134632
Tabu.
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>>153134632
It aged about half of Your Name (13 vs 24 weeks) and just has real large scale screening. Your Name was predicted to gain with just 1 billion more at the end of April due to reducing of screen time.
Can Corner get more 2 billion? It's depends on whether it will lose this strong momentum to newer movies like Hirunehime, Conan or Doraemon.
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>>153134632
It won't be anywhere near as commercially successful as your name
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>>153133699
must've been a fucking pain having to watch that dubbed in German
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>>153137310
It was Japanese audio and German sub.
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>>153134310
I know that this isn't the thread for this but what's the prediction for the KnK BDs when it has 10k points 3 months prior to release on Stalker? Can it reach 20k sales?
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>>153133557
They should make one about Fukushima.
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>>153138910
They already did, sort of. Katabuchi directed a music video for that song that was produced to encourage support to the region after the earthquake. Even had Fumiyo Kouno doing the character designs for it.
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>>153138910
There are some good LA ones.
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>>153133533
>Does this mean nips finally realized what is the true masterpiece?
Your Name - $330 million
In This Corner - $fucking nothing

Pearl Harbor apologists BTFO
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I want to lick suzu's toes.
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Kill yourselves nuke apologists.
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>>153133932
We won. Get over it, shill.
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>>153133557
>1944
>Hiroshima
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Can't wait to see the film. Read the manga recently and loved it.

Japan has been putting out some solid films lately.
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Meanwhile In This Corner of the World has won:
>best film of the year in art film magazine, Your Name was ranked the 4th worst film of the year
>best Japanese film and director of the year at Kinema Junpo both by critics and the general audience
>best art animation, 2nd best film and best film music of the year at Mainichi awards
>best film of the year at the Yokohama film festival
>best director of the year at the Blue Ribbons award
Excluding Mainichi, only Miyazaki from the entire anime industry has won these awards.
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>>153140462
Actually one quick look at google should you tell only Miyazaki's works have been a contender for best film of the year at the Mainichi awards. Katabuchi being Miyazaki's former 'protege' is really the only other director to have transcended the anime-live acton barrier that generally surrounds awards like these.
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>>153140462
all of those people are just contrarians. Face it, Your name is just objectively better.
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>>153140361
>own that exact set of books and cd.
Are you me?
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this movie is supposed to make you feel bad at hiroshima?
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>>153140059
>>153139996
>>>/pol/ nobody wants your drama
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>>153140151
>hating /pol/ = being a shill
Explain further.
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>>153140361
Nice feet
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>>153141029
I don't think it's just that. I guess more like a anti war message, just to see that behind the actions of big countries normal people are also affected. In fact what the fuck i'm doing; fucking japs, race war, now REEEEEE
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>Katabuchi asked Anno if he had seen In This Corner of the World, and Anno replied, "I saw it. What a woman, doing nothing. I wanted to strangle her."
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>>153133557
>who in 1944 moves to the small town of Kure in Hiroshima to live with her husband’s family.

So she dies?

Also i'm tired of nip propaganda, they were butchers and then act like victims when bigger butchers butchered them
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>>153141484
On point.
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>>153141029
>should we accept conditional surrender
>nah, we gotta show Ruskies our powah and conditional surrender is not enough for us, we want more
>[bombing externally]
>I guess now we can accept conditional surrender (Nips only gave up after Burgers promised not to harm emperor, so guess what, it's still a conditional surrender)

>years later proceed to teach children some retarded false dilemma shit to justify this dick waving contest

I kinda feel bad for humanity.
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>>153141356
>japan making anti-war message
>bomb someone
>get bombed back
>"h-how could humanity be so cruel!"
Disgusting. Grow a spine you dumb nips, how did they go from the samurai to this?
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>>153141817
REEEE
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>>153141484
Fucking wrecked, how can one man be so based?
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>>153141817
If North Vietnam had somehow managed to nuke the US, Americans would still be butthurt.
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>>153141029
I think it's more basic. The movie is supposed to make you feel bad about hurting civilians in war in general.
It shows what effects war can have on the lives of people who are personally uninvolved in war.

Other motives I noticed were :
How it's important to act when you get the chance or it may be to late
Growing up and taking responsibility
Forgiveness

And honestly, saying that it's "supposed to make you feel bad" doesn't really fit the narrative. To give you a somewhat bad metaphor, the movie is more like watching a child grow up only to eventually get run over by a train.
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>>153141817
Cause they were civilians that died
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>>153141545
tbf filmmakers in the immediate post war period were within their rights to portray japanese war crimes
sure, the far right still denied it, but they had a lot less power in that period.
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>>153133533
>Japan box-office daily ranking
Oh wow it's fucking nothing.
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>>153141484
Wow, he really has said this.
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>>153133533
>>153133533
This from that mangaka who drew that post nuke cancer victim story, yellow... something, right?
It's good stuff, and I'll prolly enjoy it.

Too bad these threads will be full of self-hating weeb liberals bitching at /pol/tards and WW2 autists.

Graves of the Fireflies was also kino, and most of the victims of WW2 were innocent civies who truly dindu nuffin, and nations are certainly going to be interested in thier own history, but has Japan made anything about thier own atrocities their armies commited?

There's no need to be cucked like krauts with halocaust guilt, but they still deny shit like Nanking in their history books, that's a problem.
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>>153142109
Except America is the greatest nation in the history of nations, especially from 1776-1945.
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>>153142301
Burgers are not used to thinking they were ever the bad guys, I mean, that goes for everyone, but Amerifats are especially bad at it in thier childish media.

>kill 2 million Vietnamese
>every anti-war Vietnam movies features boohoo crying GI pig murders boohoo
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>>153142560
Was.
And only best between 1918~1989.
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>>153142646
Sure thing Taro-kun
;^)
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I don't understand why Americans are so upset over this. Yes, the Japanese commited many acts of cruelty during WW2, and bombing Pearl Harbor without declaring war first was a vile act, so one could argue they deserved to be nuked (debatable), but even so two of their cities were completely wiped out, it's just normal that this had a huge impact on post-WW2 Japanese culture. Do you really expect them to shrug it off because they "deserved" it?
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>>153142713
Nips started the war, so they deserve everything, also Nazis were greatesr evil EVAR, so nips were too.

Don't bother arguing with Americans over WW2 or Vietnam, they will ALWAYS act like retarded children.
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>>153142713
They don't? The nips started and lost the war. The only thing they ever regret is not winning. LOSERS
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>>153142713
No but it's pathetic that in these shows the cruelty and injustice committed by their side are always conveniently omitted and "normal people" who supported the war and believed their emperor was a god, were portrayed to be completely innocent like a baby. Plenty of Japanese critics point out this exact weakness and the lack of moral courage.
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>>153142533
>but has Japan made anything about thier own atrocities their armies commited?
The Human Condition trilogy, directed by Kobayashi Masaki. There's also Fire on the Plain, directed by Ichikawa Kon. Both go over how fucked the japanese army was whilst not sugarcoating the problems with the enemy, be it the Soviets or the Americans.
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>>153142676
1965*
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Every thread we'll have manchildren crying about who started the war and so called victimization while the actual humanist core of the film about love, family, survival and recovery through a harsh time will be ignored.
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>>153142940
From a financial perspective that makes a lot of sense though. The movie is targeted at garnering sympathy from clueless women (exactly the MC).
Don't think you would get many people into cinema with your own country's warcrimes
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>>153142713
>and bombing Pearl Harbor without declaring war first was a vile act
No it wasn't, suck my dick
Treatment of POWs and civilians in China were "vile acts", not a surprise attack on a legitimate military target
>103 civilian casualties
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>but even so two of their cities were completely wiped out,
Read, all of them.
>what were the firebombing campaigns
700,000 civilian casualties.

If you want to cite justification for nuking civilians, look at shit like Bataan and I-8, not fucking Pearl Harbor.

Every major power did terrible shit during WW2, literally all of them.
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>>153143097
What, you don't like Full Metal Jacket?
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>>153143144
>like Bataan
Naw, we can bring up the japanese razing Manila to the ground even though it had been declared an open city.
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>make Forest Gump
>what what about all the poor innocent women and children he murdered in Vietnam, wtf Hollywood??
This is how you Murrican shits sound like.
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>>153143144
>everyone was bad!!
Fuck off you filthy millienal tadpole.
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>>153143260
what
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>>153143170
Ehh I am German and I don't see anyone here going to the moves to watch Nazis gas some jews and shoot up some eastern europeans. And you do make a point - though I think warcrimes are just like old anime on /a/, talked to death.
Something locally done, like Corner, might actually work pretty well.
What was the last high budget warcrime movie anyway?
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>>153143260
The vietnam war was a side show in Forrest Gump.
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>>153143384
> and shoot up some eastern europeans
Wasn't Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter pretty well received in germany?
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>>153143426
Not really, because it didn't show them as evil baby eaters and shows the Polish resistance as anti-Semitic (even though many of the factions in the movement were).

It's still a great little series, up there with Band of Brothers.
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>>153143388
And the politics of actual war is backdrop in this film too.
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>>153143550
Wiki says that the episodes got 7 mil views when they aired. That sounds like good reception.
No one is asking for Japanese war crimes to be portrayed to an exaggerated extent, simply somber acknowledgement in a respectful and artful manner, like UMUV. We don't want them to treat it like they treat the atom bomb.
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>>153143314
>there are good sides in a war!
Found the underage.
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>>153143635
>we want Nips to pay for chicom propaganda
No thanks, dingus.
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>>153143687
>implying there isn't
Found the liberal arts major with a tumblr account.
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>>153143687
The side that didn't start the war and didn't commit genicide tend to be the better side.
Aggression isn't the sane thing as defence unless you are some SF liberal lefty socialist sodomite.
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Why was Japan so cruel in WW2?
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>>153143831
Kill yourself brainwashed warmonger.
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>>153143850
Most of the war crimes were commited by ethnic Korean irregulars left behind to guard, not the actual trained fighting forces.
Same thing with the POWs, all koreans.
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>>153143969
Lurk for 2 years before posting, communists don't belong on 4chan.
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Why didn't the japs just surrender?
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>>153144006
>it was Korea's fault
Hi Takeshi.
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>>153143144
There were no Japanese war crimes. That was just Chinese slander!
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>>153143850
When you're building a colonial empire on prussian lines, cruelty is sort of a given.
Japan was one of the countries that didn't get the memo that that sort of thing was no good any more.
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>>153141484
Anno just does not give a fuck.
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>>153143314
Not "everyone was bad" but "WWII was fucking awful and nobody can pretend they weren't a part of it"

Overall, the US treated the Germans very well, treated Japanese POWs well, treated Japanese civilians way better than Russia, Japan, and China did (at least after occupation)

There was just the small matter of the US burning the majority of Japan's large cities to the ground, then nuking what was left.

Intentionally killing large numbers noncombatants is not okay, whether they be civilians or POWs, and every major power during WWII did this.

Yes, Russia, Japan, and Germany get and deserve most of the blame, but you can't pretend that everyone else had even remotely clean hands.
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>>153144224
>There were war crimes, but it's all now used for Chinese state sponsored anti-jap propaganda.
Fiddy

Remember, when you side against Japan, you side for commie China.
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>>153144006
>most
>all
I have never read anything that indicated that. The Japanese Army proper war crime'd it up as well as the mistreated Koreans.
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Subs when?
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>>153143742
yes yes we get it you think war crimes never happened
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>>153144140
They did ;^)
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>>153144334
>you can't pretend that everyone else had even remotely clean hands
Luxembourg did nothing wrong.
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>>153144346
Because korea as a nation didn't exist, so they were considered Japanese.

I am not saying all koreans are bad, but they were ill trained "colonial" troops used to occupy, not to fight and it resulted in much abuse blamed on mucg better trained native Japanese armies afterwards.
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>mfw all the threads about this film are going to turn out like this
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>>153144006
lol nice propaganda.
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>>153144537
Look at evil jap hiding her face in shame after denying war crimes all day on /a/!!
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>Sledge wrote starkly of the brutality displayed by Japanese soldiers during the battles, and of the hatred that both sides harbored for each other. In Sledge's words, "This was a brutish, primitive hatred, as characteristic of the horror of war in the Pacific as the palm trees and the islands."
>Sledge describes one instance in which he and a comrade came across the mutilated bodies of three Marines, butchered and with severed genitals stuffed into their mouths.

WW2 japs were as savage as the drug cartels
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>>153144537
Katabuchi started it, the film was fucking DESIGNED with this in mind, i.e. creating discussion of how WWII sucked and was overall a bad idea.

It's also easy award bait, it's basically obligatory to throw awards at anti-war films even if they're shit.
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Poor Yamada she keeps getting blown the fuck out.
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>>153144521
Koreans weren't considered Japanese and weren't drafted in the army until 1944. How could they have committed many war crimes?
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>Japan
>war crimes
pick one retards
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>>153144707
Corean work ethic.
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>>153144685
It's sad. But maybe the source material simply wasn't interesting enough. If she gets to make an original, surely she will win?
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>>153144763
Gimmie Japon, leave out war crimes.
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>>153144807
Her directing style and framing are very bland and the shitty instagram filters don't help. She will never win a relevant award.
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It's a movie for and by sensitive pussies and actual women, you dummies.
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>>153144763
Almost everyone committed war crimes in WWII, but the Japanese have the distinction of being one of the three powers who committed the most, ranging from murdering Chinese civilians and razing open cities to faking surrenders and attacking their wold-be captors.
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I wonder if braindead retards will call Princess Arete "feministbait" too. This site's users really are scum.
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Why can't we all stop caring about our past war crimes and go on? It happened 70 years ago. It's time to move on.
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>>153144976
>source material written actually by an outspoken feminist
DURRRRRRR
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>>153145047
Then stop making them set 70 years ago during the war?
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>>153144807
Yes, lets hope for another original masterpiece like tamako market.
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>>153142713
I mean, I think they really need to get nuked. That's what freed us from their colonization. On the other hand, maybe if we are still part of the Glorious Nihon Empire, we won't be as massive a shithole as we are now.
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Not even pol but does anyone actually buy this dindu nuffin shit? The only good guys in the war where us the British, after we stopped ignoring Hitler and grew a pair with Churchill.
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>>153145176
Let's hope she has learnt to not include the bird. That was literally the only flaw. Maybe everything that had to do with the bird's friends too. If Tamako Market removed the bird it'd be a masterpiece.
I do worry a bit that she'd make something overtly homophobic though.
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>>153145223
it's based on biographical material by women who lived during the time, you saying even japanese housewives and children were murdering and raping chinese peasents too?
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>>153145223
>good guys
>british
absolutely perfidious
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Who cares about what side was in the wrong, people don't have to feel bad or apologize for what their ancestors did. Thankfully Japan didn't fall for this meme in the same way Germany did.
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>>153133533
Redpill me on this movie. Is it actually Japanese propaganda?
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>>153145561
back to /pol/ you go champ
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>>153145672
You didn't answer the question.
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>>153145561
Sort of.
It dramatizes women and civies suffering during war, which is a universal theme, but it's also made by japs who are infamous for denying any wrong doings and pretty much pretends WW2 just happened (lets not deal with it, so long ago, we look to the future, etc).

It's bullshit, but I also don't want to be lumped with filthy chinks who circlejerk over ww2 anti-nip shit 24/7, so I side with Nippon who are clean decent modern people.
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>>153145421
But if America didn't domesticate the warmongering japs with two nukes they wouldn't be making cute girl anime today
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>>153141484
Anno our samurai on thot patrol
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>>153144537
>talk about a movie set during WWII
>upset when people discuss WWII

That was the point, you dense motherfucker.
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>>153145421
Hitler was scum who got what he deserved.
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How did MAPPA do it? 2016 was the year of MAPPA and 2017 has a good start so far
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>>153145720
Japan apologized many times already.
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>>153145421
Historically Japan wasn't exactly a pacifist country. See the Bataan Death March.

The only "winners" there can be in a war are individuals who made a fuck ton of money or gained tremendous power while staying safe at home. Soldiers never win. The people never win.
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>>153146004
But they aren't constantly apologizing, nor have they built a giant musem memorial in the middle of Tokyo dedicated to their victims during WW2 like Germans.

It's highly problematic.
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>>153145783
>tfw incredibly conflicted between choosing an all aryan perfect West/all nip East or animu
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>>153146004

They don't want apologies, what they want is history to not be forgotten. Japan keeps erasing shit from school books.
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>>153146114
But should they really do that? The dead will stay dead regardless.
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>>153146111
>The people never win.
Tell that to native americans.
We're all posting in English, certain peoples and cultures do win, struggles have meaningful outcomes.
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>>153146269
Seeing as they'll prolly get fucked, and fucked hard by chinks as soon as US ever pulls out of Asia, they should prolly prepare to fight or learn to suck on chinese dicks long time.
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>>153146111
No, you're ignorant. All wars are and were different.
>The people never win
Is nothing but hogwash. The American people did not see any large scale destruction in the US, they were well of for the most part. Unaffected even, same goes for WWI.
Technological advances during wars provide an increased quality of life for the population at one point, America became a rich superpower after the war.
Not every war was a great war, that's why WW1 was called The Great War to begin with.
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>>153143845
>defence
see
>>153141728
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Why is war wrong?
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>>153146577
To quote the chinese philosopher Jackie Chan, "War what is it good for? Absolutely nothing"
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>>153143426
I only saw one ep, but it showed Poles as the anti-semitic ones and good German women as the only one who felt for Jews, so maybe its popular because it white-washes German crimes?
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>>153146372
The EU will defend it.
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>>153146577
Makes pussies cry.

But irl, wars by the age mechinazation (1930's) era is too costly and bloody.
Wars in the age of nukes are possible extinction level events.

Wars used to be relative good times when you could steal some land, pluder some loot, and rape alot.
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>>153146673
>eu
>do anything but convert to islam
Hahahahaha
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>>153144140
America wanted to show Russia how big their dick was, so they didn't accept surrender until they had a chance to use their shiny toys.
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>>153146736
Rape is bad though.
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>>153145223
I'd say Poles were pretty chill, though they didn't have much chance to commit war crimes.
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>>153146782
Once the EU army becomes a thing the world will tremble in fear.
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>>153146671
You have to understand that we don't like Poles. We might be somewhat nice to them but even the people that don't realize it, the population on a large scale, doesn't like Poles. It's the Teuton blood that flows in our veins. Same goes for Poles, nothing but temporary peace and wherever you can ridicule the other it'll be done. It's an eternal struggle for survival between Germane und Slawe.
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>>153146787
US demanded unconditional surrender, unacceptable to japs who assumed we would've hanged Hirohito by the nearest lamp pole.

Millions suffered and died so japs could keep thier monarchy, a system so old and obscure most nips barely understood it.
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>>153146959
But Germany was literally unified by Poles.
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>>153145720
>It dramatizes women and civies suffering during war, which is a universal theme, but it's also made by japs who are infamous for denying any wrong doings and pretty much pretends WW2 just happened
>but it's also made by japs who are infamous for denying any wrong doings and pretty much pretends WW2 just happened
It has nothing to do with the movie.
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>>153146866
Its is theft/damage of the father or husband's property, so yes, it is.
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>>153147059
6/10 almost made me reply.
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>>153146577
Seriously?
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>>153147040
>what is context
Stay in school, kids, don't be stupid like this dummy.
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How did MAPPA do it?
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>>153147016
Don't flatter yourself wojciech
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>>153147105
But you did reply.

>>153147108
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers, case in point.
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>>153138032
Thank god, the german dub would've likely been horrible
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>>153147014
Nah, millions died because you couldn't be satisfied with promising emperor's safety (which you did later anyway, because the nukes were not enough) is in fact only the less important reason. It was mostly to show the power of nuclear weapons and scare Russians.
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>>153142713
America can do what it wants, you stupid hoe
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>>153147190
I had a question mark there.
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>>153147120
What about political idols? That is just one of the unique concepts MAPPA animated.
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>>153147220
Who are you shilling?
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>>153147114
I could as well say that every Hollywood movie about wild west is bullshit because you genocided Indians.
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>>153144006
>koreans

Wut. This is the first time i heard of this. Were Koreans behind Unit 731?
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>>153147333
Who do you want me to shill?
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>>153144537
Can't hide from /pol/.
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>>153147388
Japan.
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>>153144537
Moot shouldn't have created boards that have nothing to do with Japanese culture.
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>>153147492
I don't want to, those fuckers were even worse than America.
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>>153144537
If only there were other, less autistic sites where to discuss annie may.
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>>153147508
It would help if you'd enforce your own damn rules but alas that ain't happening. Not that I want to be a mod or god forbid the admin of this Mongolian cave painting. Can't possibly the good for your health.
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>>153147344
It would if everyone didn't agree killing off heathen savages was a noble and righteous did that honors our Christian heritage.
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>>153147374
Probably, terrible people.
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>>153141315
american marine put white penis in japan booty
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>>153147548
USA is best tho.
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>>153147120
>>153145965

We tried and failed to shift the conversation into a happier topic, rip
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>>153147647
>did
Did you mean 'deed'?
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>>153141484
God Damn.
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>>153147734
Burgers can't spell.
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>>153147696
What are the Os supposed to blot out?
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>WWI
>America became a superpower
I thought US became a superpower after Spain lost in the Spanish-American War?
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>>153147724
Honestly, we can't even see the film, so it would be kinda pointless.
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>>153147716
Yea, brutha.
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>>153147789
Having a few filthy islands does not a superpower make.
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>>153147801
You can see it on saturday in germany
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>>153147789
No one said that, America became a superpower after the second war.
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Eh, japs are alright, they draw the best blondes, can't hate.
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>>153147874
But I don't know Hitler runes.
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>>153147874
So fuck off to krautchan on Saturday.
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>>153147930
Speaking Japanese is expected if you're on /a/
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>>153133699

Not removing Hamburg off the map was a mistake
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>>153146671
and unless you're a pole there's nothing wrong with portraying poles as anti-semites.
they were.
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>>153147724
>>153147801
>>153147120
>>153145965
Let's talk about MAPPA. They're fond of unique and unexplored concepts like ice skating and political idols. They're the pioneers of those concepts.
>>153147924
So this is why blondes win in anime.
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>>153147647
Oh father high in heaven -- smile down upon your son
whose busy with his money games -- his women and his gun.
Oh Jesus save me!
And the unsung Western hero killed an Indian or three
and made his name in Hollywood
to set the white man free.
Oh Jesus save me!
If Jesus saves -- well, He'd better save Himself
from the gory glory seekers who use His name in death.
Oh Jesus save me!
I saw him in the city and on the mountains of the moon --
His cross was rather bloody --
He could hardly roll His stone.
Oh Jesus save me!
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>>153147964
Having watched animu for years, I can understand a lot of raw japanese, it's kinda amazing... I hear actual words and phrases surrounded by gibberish kanji.
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>>153147974
To a lesser extent than the whole world, look up Paradisus Iudaeorum. Later things were worse, but still better than almost anywhere else. Jews were just universally hated.
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>>153148039
>hear
>kanji
Nice. What are you using?
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>>153148092
So you're saying that us whites need to be genocided to repent for what we did to the Jews?
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>>153148092
>to a lesser extent than the whole world
Ahh, never change Stanislaw. Always playing the innocence, no, slightly less innocent than everyone else card.
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>>153146004
>Japan
>Apologizing
Tell Abe that.
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>>153148200
What? I don't get it, is it your /pol/ meme?
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>>153148092
It's difficult to say that it was "better than anywhere else", given the pogroms that ravaged eastern europe during the russian civil war and the wars related to it. Even some bolshevik units got in on the action.
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>>153148208
>Always playing the innocence, no, slightly less innocent than everyone else card.
Did you mean 'slightly more innocent than everyone else'?
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>>153148012
>>153147647
Indian genocide is a meme, there weren't that many of them in North America, settlers simply displaced them more often than not.
And contrary to millienal assumptions, most western epics have great deal of respect or outright show injuns as noble and fierce as the cowboys. In thier historical context to the 50's or even 1850's, those films are highly progressive.
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>>153148200
Jews are white tho.
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>>153148277
>the pogroms that ravaged eastern europe during the russian civil war and the wars related to it. Even some bolshevik units got in on the action
Which has nothing to do with Poles. We did make a few pogroms of our own though.
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>>153144140
muh honor
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>>153148314
No actually.
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>>153148383
They were traitors who greeted the Soviets during the invasion, Poland did nothing wrong
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>people who haven't seen the movie commenting as if they've seen it

Every time.
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>>153148407
Why would you imply that Poles are trying to appear less innocent than others?
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>>153148359
>Jews
>White
I thought they're a Middle Eastern country?
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>>153148401
>true virile japs died fighting for emperor and honor like samurai
>the ones who lived were faggot cowards and beta pussies
Explains modern japan perfectly.
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Reminder that Jews did nothing wrong.
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>>153148457
Ashkenazi are mostly german/slav mix.
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>>153148427
We did wrong the Jews quite a bit, but way less than any European country that had a significant Jewish minority. It was the reason so many of them lived in Poland before WWII.
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>>153148429
>implying we're talking about the film in any way
lol
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>>153148486
>virile
They were cucks who threw their life away literally because they were told to.
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>>153148529
They haven't killed off of all the Palestinians yet, they are doing plenty wrong
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>>153148457
Jews aren't a country you dummy. Some Jews are white because they come from European converts and don't have genetic connections with the Jewish population. Sephardic Jews can often be converts for example, generally speaking Jews are of course not white and have the connection to the Levant within them.

>>153148445
Because I obviously made a mistake after getting overexcited due to your drivel.
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>>153148010

To think I was afraid Mappa would go bankrupt like Mangoble. They aren't as brave as Manglobe was with their themes and characters but were close.

Can't wait for Bahamut S2, YoI S2 and Inuyashiki
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>>153148637
THEY DIED WITH HONOR
THEY DIED AS MEN, RATHER THAN LIVE AS KEKS OF THE WHITE MAN
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>>153148564
Khazars.
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>>153148747
>>>/x/
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>>153148692
>getting overexcited due to your drivel
Are you German? Nobody else cares about Polish treatment of Jews.
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>>153148747
Does it matter?
They call themselves jews, everyone else does too.
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>>153148806
Not like I brought it up. He asked. Point is israelis and the khazar jews are two distinct populations.
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>>153148777
Did I imply that somewhere? Because I didn't.
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Your view on Idol Jihen aka Political Idols? It is also made by MAPPA.
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>>153148831
Still jews tho
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Ask a Jew anything.
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>>153148831
Which unless converted still have strong connections to the Levant.
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>>153148861
Your words seemed to imply that you were getting mad at >>153148092 and I can't think of a reason why if you aren't a German.
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>>153148875
More like Idol Jihad amirite

>>153148930
How hot do you like it in the oven? 400F?
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>>153148930
Do you fear the samurai
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>>153148383
It has to do with the poles insofar as the poles were just as much involved with the various civil and border conflicts following the downfall of the russian empire as every other state formed as a result, and those conflicts all involved pogroms.
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>>153148941
Genetically? No. Israelis are practically identical to the surrounding arabs. There's little more than a cultural connection.
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>>153148963
I'm not mad, no reason to be either.
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>>153148831
>khazar jews
They don't exist, why do you keep bringing them up?
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>>153149022
>Even some bolshevik units got in on the action
Bolsheviks' actions have nothing to do with Poland.

>the poles were just as much involved with the various civil and border conflicts following the downfall of the russian empire as every other state formed as a result, and those conflicts all involved pogroms.
Mostly fights with neighbouring nations, there were more pogroms carried out by Poles on Jews deeper within Polish territory than on the border.
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>>153149026
First of all. Yes genetically, migration doesn't change your genes to the extent of losing them. Every Jew who is not converted is genetically connected to the Levant.

Secondly, Israel isn't surrounded by Arabs. This shows how little you know.
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>>153141545
Oh the irony.
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>>153143850
Pretty much every Allies' did worse than them.
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>>153148930
Are you rich?
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>>153149302
>France
>Britain
>US

>worse
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>>153149239
What irony?
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>>153133932
You can't. Remove yourself from it instead, newshit.
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>>153149302
Brainwashed faggot millenial detected.
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>>153148969
>400F
Sorry I can't read retarded
>>153148996
Dunno, they don't exist anymore
>>153149303
Middle class.
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>>153149343
>couting france
Lol, they were more faggot Vichy than anything else
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>>153149366
Fuck off /pol/.
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>>153149158
I say "even the bolsheviks" because not pogromming was official written policy for that lot, and even then it became well know later that more than a few bolshevik units fighting in the Ukraine and later with Poland were pogromming on the regular in places recently pogrommed by ukrainians and poles.

I'm mostly getting at what a clusterfuck everything was.
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I want /his/ and /pol/ to leave
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>>153149428
>le ebin /pol/ boogyman meme
Yawn, newshits are so tiring.
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>>153149419
There's a certain irony to the italians not being super comfortable with deporting jews but collaborationist frenchmen being more eager for it than a lot of germans
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Is this the new Grave of the Fireflies? Because it triggers Amerilards as easily.
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>>153149472
Gibe torrents or we stay
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>>153149493
>italians not being super comfortable with deporting jews
Why?
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>>153149507
Yes, soon the no.1 reddit anime, I feel it.
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>>153149509

Someone in japan camrip this already
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>>153133699
they are showing it in germany?
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>>153149548
Certain parts of italy were alway cosmopolitan and tolerate many peoples since ancient times.
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>>153133533
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>>153149237
>Every Jew who is not converted is genetically connected to the Levant
Cute. I'm not much for word games. Strongly connected and just technically connected, to any extent, are very different things. European jews have little or often nothing in common with israelis genetically. Not like there's no precedence for people converting, Israelis don't have a lot in common with ethiopian jews either. Religions spread. Genes are only passed down directly.

>Secondly, Israel isn't surrounded by Arabs
Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and the non-country of Palestine.
Which of these aren't mostly arab? None, dipshit. Unless you think a subdivision like "levantine arab" suddenly isn't an arab. Their genes don't magically change upon leaving the arabian peninsula, buddy.
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>>153149702
>non-country of Palestine.
Shoot yourself.
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WHY DID YOU SICK FUCKS NUKE SUZU
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>>153149730
Well it isn't one, and they seem pretty upset about it. What's their government, fucking hamas?
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>>153143850
>Why was Japan so cruel in WW2?
Imperialism is for assholes who don't care about other people in the least to the point of dehumanizing them for material/political gain. What else is new?
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>MAPPA releases official merchandise of ice-faggots in Tel Aviv

MAPPA is a part of the jewish conspiracy obviously.
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>>153133932
>How do we kill /pol/ from this board?
Report, ignore, move on.

Do the same with SJW.
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>>153149757
Payback for Pearl Harbor
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>>153144140
>Why didn't the japs just surrender?
Lots of in-fighting in-between various factions of the military and the de facto hold over the government. Emperor is a null issue in this since even with all the Imperial worship, wartime Japan was just essentially Sengoku Shogunate part2 Modern Times Boogaloo.
The military had an inordinate amount of political power, which led to strange bedfellows with imperialist politicians and early successes in Manchuria/Korea and other parts of mainland Asia.
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>>153149878
USA USA USA
THESE COLORS DON'T RUN
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>>153149878
>>153149940

GO NUKE SOMEBODY ELSES WAIFU
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>>153149842
https://twitter.com/misa8yoi/status/826418490265399297
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>>153149548
I mean, that's a good question.
I suppose if I had to answer, there's a few identifiable factors. the italian government was never quite as down with racial theories as the germans, so official policy was a lot softer on that end. Italy never did political purges to the extent as the germans, so there was marginally more political plurality, which also manifested as underground parties having a lot more power than in Germany.
I guess I'd chock it down to the Italians being markedly less violent, even under a fascist regime, than their contemporaries.
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Stalin was right jews were a mistake
>>
Look, a lot ppl get heated up over nukes, but look at the facts:

No nukes, no surrender, no beta japn recovery, no animu, thus no 4chan and no /a/.

We are the children of nukes, we create and give cancer.
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>>153149702
My son, I strongly suggest you go read up on genetics in the region because you have no idea.
European Jews do carry their genes with them, you can play this down all you want. It won't change the fact that these genes stay with you, in some they're more obvious due to isolation or breeding with their own and in some they're not due to mixing with the population.
Those "Israelis" you speak are actually for the most part immigrants or sons and daughters of European Jews who in return are genetically connected to the Levant.

Syria isn't Arab, suggesting Lebanon as an Arab majority country is just incredibly ridiculous but Egypt is also quite the achievement.

On a scale of one to ten, how Jewish are you and how much do you want to be white?
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>>153149239
Nanking
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>>153148666
What does Satan have against Palestinians?
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>>153149781
>What's their government, fucking hamas?
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
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>>153150048
>>153149631
Also "Italians" as a nationally didn't exist back than, it's more regional and city bound, lot's of different peoples.
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>>153148930
Give me my foreskin back.
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>>153150105
>syria isn't arab
I- what?
You'll uh, you'll need to elaborate.
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>>153150137
Satan doesn't approve of failures.
They should be lauching rockets and suicide bombing everyday, lazy cunts.
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>>153148930
Why does America steal our foreskin when we're not even jewish?
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>>153150105
Arab =/= muslim, I think what you mean.
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>>153150104
>children of atom
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>>153150188
This is like saying Yugoslavia or Germany didn't exist.
A lot of states formed out disparate "cultural groups" in the general trend towards unification in the 19th and 20th century, but that does not mean these new states were without "national identity", even with a sardinian on the throne.
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>>153150202
No, we ate it during the blood ritual already.
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>>153150207
>Oficially known as the Syrian Arab Republic

Hell if I know
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>>153150207
How is Syria Arab? Do you even know what Arabs are?

>>153150272
Not entirely the point but you may add it, yes.
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>>153150272
But even then, Syria's current constitution still very explicitly states that the syrian state is an arab one and that the religion of the president is Islam. Assad senior never liked it, but he was unable to change it.
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>>153150105
>Syrian Arabs, together with some 600,000 Palestinian Arabs, make up roughly 74% of the population (if Syriac Christians are excluded)
Don't seem that way to me.
>On a scale of one to ten, how Jewish are you and how much do you want to be white?
Ah, yes, that's why I'm arguing they stem from the Khazars, and didn't diverge from the israelis through mixing heavily with Europeans. You've got me all figured out, man.
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>>153150343
I just know not to like them and keep them away from my country, fuck off abdul
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>this is now somehow a mena thread
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>>153150343
Well, how is it not arab? Waht exactly is your definition of such?
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>>153141484
holy fuck! what a god.
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>>153133533
this movie is going to be the bomb
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>>153150378
Because they have a number of arabized people. They still however greatly differ from the actual Arabs that live and originate in the Arabian peninsula. They have connections to Greeks and Romans from ancient times, they have West Asiatic influences, Kurds are not Arabs, Assyrians aren't Arabs, Armenians are not Arabs and neither are Turks. Hell they have French and English ancestry in smaller groups.
Of course Syria has Arab influence from tribes but Syrians are mostly a mix of numerous peoples and by no means Arabs as you know it.
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>>153150397
What's a mena?
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>>153150307
I couldn't feel the sexual thrill i could've have when i'm masturbating to 2D girls. How are you going to take responsibility for this?
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>>153150720
Well what good are those greek and roman connections when those anatolians were so different from the romans of italia (most of whom weren't even romans, just latins with citizenship) and the seafaring attic greeks (the only true greeks)?
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>>153150874
Middle East, North Africa
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>>153150720
>the actual Arabs that live and originate
And live in a ton of other places. They settled all over the area. Stop playing word games. It's only the origin that matters. Geographic location is just useful here as a likely indicator of it.
>They have connections to
And them being categorized as "Syrian Arabs" instead of "Syrian British" gives a good hint of which connection is the strongest
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>>153150989
This thread has gone to shit, what are we really supposed to talk about?
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>>153150950
Settlers, that's the reason why you find a lighter Syrian population to begin with.

>>153151081
Those tribes differ greatly and that influence is one of many. Your arguments are non-arguments and you're wrong. Picture related is your proof so we can move on.
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>>153151082
I'm not the guy, I'm just clarifying the acronym.
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>>153142511
But I saw nip fans triumphant and they made it like this is a big deal. Like they have been oppressed for a long time.
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>>153151263
so I suppose the implication here is that all greco-roman settlers were from these very small portions of greece and rome, namely the city of rome and the area surrounding athens?
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>>153151275
Ok. It's just that this thread went from Asia to Middle East and Europe.
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>>153147374
Didn't Korean kill off a bunch of retards and buried them in Juju Island or is that some myth?
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>>153151359
I don't understand what you're trying to say, what is the issue here? Roman and Greek settlers in Syria as part of a greater Roman province which included Syria are the most likely reason. Could also be normal Indo-Aryan migration leftovers to some extent.
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>>153141484
Truly the next Miyazaki.
>>153133533
More like Your Name is FINALLY meeting it's end, I liked the movie but it has been screening for almost 6 months now. It's about time another movie take over.
Im quite interested in "In this Corner of the World" as well, it'll be screened in spring in my country, can't wait.
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>>153151511
It's been going everywhere, desu.
I'm not complaining, of course.
>>153151573
That those greek and roman settlers were more often than not "romanized" or "hellenized" peoples than they were proper romans and greeks. Since you're of the opinion that such populations don't count, bringing them up seems counter intuitive for your purposes.
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>>153151668
Ok. It even went to America earlier.
>>153151315
It's very rare in Japan to create a movie that details the horrors of war, rather than glorifying it.
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>>153151668
What do you mean, "such populations don't count"? You can of course prove what you said regarding the settlers?
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>>153151846
Well if romanized and hellenized populations count as romans and greeks, that would mean that arabized syrian populations would count as, you guessed it, arabs.
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>>153151263
I don't see how that image helps your point, if you remember them. Lot greater overlap with Egyptians and saudis than between Ashkenazi and Israelis.

Really, really doesn't support your disbelief in arabs being arab either.
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>>153151798
As I've said earlier, in the immediate post-war period it wasn't uncommon at all.
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>>153151996
I got. This movie boomed since it uses WWII as a basis for the story and realistically depicts ordinary civilians living during the US bombing of Japan.
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>>153151924
You need to go back to school. Syrians don't overlap at all, and it is the distance that matters as well.

>>153151917
You still haven't proved the settlers weren't actual Romans and Greeks. Why bother?
Not every Syrian is arabized for fuck's sake.
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>>153133699
>>153147967
>>153137310
>tfw you are not from the first world
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>>153152274
Sure, not every, but as been said earlier, the majority are most certainly 'arabized' peoples.
It's a difficult thing to prove, given that most accepted scholarship in the field tends to classify romanized peoples of the italian peninsula as roman, what with them being romanized and all, just as most folks are fine with calling macadonian greeks as greek as any other greek, something that I myself am more than fine with.
But you, you're of the opinion that that ain't kosher, yeah? For you, wouldn't the idea of etruscans being roman and be a bit of a lark?
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>>153147789
>>153147891
you really need to study history
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I want to see this but I have a feeling it will have a tiny opening outside of japan and the only way to see it will be at some anime expo
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>>153152658
Especially in America.
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>>153144006
exactly just like how the polish people burned all the jew's after all the german troops left
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>>153152609
>a number of arabized people
Not a majority and these Arab tribes greatly differ but that's not that important. The rest is your own game so unless you stop evading the question for some fucking proof regarding these settlers nothing you say is of relevance. It's also quite irrelevant if those settlers were Macedonians or Swedish people because Macedonians are still lighter than your Arabian peninsula tribesmen, which was the original point regarding the POSSIBLE origin of light Syrians.
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>>153149302
>nanking
>any of the allies doing worse
W. T. F
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0 sales.
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>>153152934
is 70% not a majority?
I can't provide proof because you and accepted scholarship rely on two different definitions of what it means to be a roman. No scholar is going to say that colonization by latin peoples was not of romans, because the category of roman involved more than just those whose descendants were of the original roman tribes of the city.
>It's also quite irrelevant if those settlers were Macedonians or Swedish people because Macedonians are still lighter than your Arabian peninsula tribesmen
Oh, so greek is a category more in line with skin colour than it is ethno-cultural identity? And there's another way your playing around with definitions puts me in a bind.
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>>153144807

Yamada is shit though. I'm glad Japan saw through it.

She's a try hard overrated piece of shit director whom KyoAnifags and twitter Sakugafags circlejerk on. She actually has nothing special.
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>>153153086
Are you talking about BD sales? They didn't announce the BD yet.
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>>153153147
Is she responsible for sinking yuri...
Wait, what the fuck am I talking about?
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>>153151315
The point of the movie isn't to show the nips were oppressed. It's to show that war causes civilians to suffer regardless of which side you are on. The obvious method of suffering is getting bombed by another country even though you had no say in starting the war.

Another way is being oppressed by your government in order to keep war morale high. For example, the kempeitai essentially censoring free speech or the us government having internment camps.

Are people really this retarded?
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>>153153220
Tell that to the anon who said that US benefited from WWI.
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>>153153147
But didn't Yamada upsetted KyoAni fans and yuri fans because of Hibike?
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>>153153115
The original point of this particular discussion was possible origin of lighter Syrians. They can be Greek or Macedonian or leftovers from Indo-Aryan migrations or maybe some Berber migration, which would just be ridiculous, or English/French colonization leftovers or "Titus bring the cross" victims or maybe they are of European descent due to slavery. They could also be Kurds or Assyrians or Lebanese or lighter Turks. None of which are Arabs.
You're talking about something that doesn't matter, I don't know much about Macedonia so I don't feel like talking about it, that's your thing and it's luckily irrelevant to the discussion at hand.
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>>153153341
Only the yurifags. Hopefully they killed themselves after watching Hibike S2.
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>>153153147

>She's a try hard overrated piece of shit director whom KyoAnifags and twitter Sakugafags circlejerk on.

This.

Actually watched the movie in Scotland. Drove quite a distance. Would have instantly regretted that travel had it not been for Kimi no Na wa.

The movie was so shit and I hated those who said it was good. The drama was so unnatural and the cast acted like extreme idiots. I actually don't know what the movie was trying to address. Bullying? Redemption? There was simply no coherence at all.

There were times that it would seem that THAT was the message but then it gets thrown off a tangent because those useless side characters.
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>>153153892
How was the animation at least?
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>>153153926

So so. It was above average. Think of it as high budget TV anime. Kinda like how great episodes in Shigatsu were.

It's definitely far from Kimi no Na wa's level.
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>>153154035
I figured so. KyoAni movies tend to be glorified TV productions rather than showcasing Ghibli-rivalling animation.
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>>153153696
And insofar as they're culturally arab, call themselves arabs and identify with the greater arab world, they're arab. And when 70% of folks are fine with calling themselves arab, that seems to be well enough to consider a place majority arab.
>The original point of this particular discussion was possible origin of lighter Syrians.
Pretty sure it began with you or someone else saying
>Secondly, Israel isn't surrounded by Arabs. This shows how little you know.
You're the one who gives a shit about skin colour, not us.
>I don't know much about Macedonia
Fun fact, the doric and attic greeks to the south disliked the Macadonian greeks because they were lighter skinned, more in line with the slavic and germanic barbarians farther north by their reckoning.
For aristotle a perfect greek was brown, with neither the deficiencies of the light people of the north or the darker tribes of north africa.
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>>153142713

> Bombs Pearl Harbor without warning
> U.S literally warns them they are going to obliterate their cities
> lol w/e - Japan 1945
> Hiroshima and Nagasaki BTFO
> Fuk u American pigs we did nothin wrong
> ??

On a side note, did this movie have any sign of criticism of Japanese government?
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>>153154328

If only.
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>>153154328
Yeah. Depicts the way in which the imperial army deceived the population, until the bitter end.
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>>153154328
the US already obliterated cities before dropping nuclear bombs

tokyo was basically wiped out by fire bombing
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>>153138910
Isn't that just Shin Godzilla?
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>>153154128
At least it's better than PokeAni's bullshit game promotion method.
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>>153133533
Oh. That's why I saw nips glorified it on Twitter recently. Your Name's followers shat on other movie too much, the boomerang effect will normally hit them the hardest.
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So we can expect over 4 billion gross by the end of its run?
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Why are people so racist and intolerant? On this board I mean.
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>>153133533
....do you have any idea how box offices work anon
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>>153142629
Yeah, it's curious
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>>153158271
I just saw the shitstrom in 2ch board, so I don't.
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>>153158771
What was that about?
>>153156020
I think that Koe no Katachi beat your name at the Japan Academy then Corner Hiroshima film beat it at the box office.
As for koe, it is already a ded thread in Japan.
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>>153159307
It's just when Your Name grossing ranking fall down, all its anti-fan went all out with no mercy. But IIRC the Japan Academy results haven't announced tho? Maybe other reward?
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>>153158236
This is the Trump age, anon. Be careful.
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>>153158236
They bought the /pol/ propaganda.
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The MC is a 17 year old housewife. Do they keep their sex scenes from the manga?
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Why does the trailer fucking spoil that she loses her drawing hand
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>>153160364
>sex scenes
Wait what?
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>>153160424
When they are trying to make babies.
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>>153160513
Good, keep it pure.
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>>153145047
Tell that to the Germans, poor fuckers are born castrated and are only meant to be proud about their football.
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Is her prostitute friend there as well?
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Is the manga localized yet?
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>>153154128
To be fair, Ghibli is an anomaly.
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>>153160776
The Germans forgave Europe and the Jewish communities for their war crimes, anon.
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>>153160877
This, Kimi no Na wa's animation was really mediocre considering the staff involved yet there were many delusional people calling it Ghibli-tier. There are many TV anime with more impressive animation than that shit.
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>>153161121
I haven't seen it, and while I'm sure it's not near Ponyo or Wind Rises, I feel like you're low-balling it.
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>>153161121
Even some of KyoAni's works are even better than it. And that's saying something (some say that KyoAni works are kinda...something).
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>>153154780
Yet they insisted on continuing a lost cause for the sake of MUH HONURR,
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>>153161121
>Kimi no Na Wa animator
>mediocre
Sorry, What do you mean by this?
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>>153161596
Kimi no Na Wa was actually good.
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>>153161358
>>153161121
You're crazy, Kimi no na Wa may not have the fluidity of Ghibli films but it's definitely up there as one of the top 20~ best non-Ghibli anime films of all time. Saying some TV anime are better than it is plain wrong.
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>>153161969
Good, keep it that way.
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>>153161121
Kimi no na wa was closer to the production values of a Hosoda movie but to be fair, Ando wanted to animate more but didn't have the time or budget for it.
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