Oratoria is going to destroy Danmachi sales just like Railgun

Oratoria woudn't exist without Danmachi so it's the inferior version anyway.

>>153131007
I really really hope so. so much better

>>153131007
>no restia
It's garbage, hopefully it will flop.

Considering it has more end game tier levels of action, with a plot that moves forward faster than Danmachi. Yes, it is going to be better.

Danmachi unfortunately suffers the double season max syndrome. Anime is used primarily to boost sales, with enough interest generating season 2.

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>>153131094
Did it sell well enough for a second season?

>>153131094

Danmachi suffers from a horrible MC. Like seriously, 90% of it's popularity was Hestia.

Oratoria has a much better main cast.

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I'm really looking forward to elf porn this anime will bring.

>>153131139
Funny enough, even when they do, if a LN series is ongoing past the point of a 3rd season finishing it all, almost no studios take the project.

I miss the days when Japan invested all in with a series they love.

>>153131297

That's because almost always S2 sells worse than S1 and S3 sells worse than S2.

No Hestia no buy.

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>>153131370

Elf > oppai loli

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>>153131258
yes

Why didn't they skip Danmachi entirely, add Hestia to Oratoria and make a fun show like Retarded Dragon Girls.

>>153132013

Because LN industry is full of idiots.

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>>153131816

>female MC
Is this yuri? Does Aiz fuck the elf?

>>153132013

Not sure if it's true but I remember reading that supposedly author wanted Oratoria to be the main series. But people in charge went "where is muh self insert? it's not gonna sell" so Danmachi was born.

>>153132191

It has two female leads with something around 60/40 ratio in favor of Lefiya. And Lefiya is 100% gay for Ais.

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>>153131816

This entire chapter.

And elf lesbo is OP as fuck now.

>>153131258
why? All elf porn is the same.
One in a thousand actually bother doing something different like molesting the elves ears or something
Every other doujin is just "captured proud noble elf is raped by orcs/bandits".

>>153131007
It has no male self-insert so I don't see the point in watching it.

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>>153132289
>elf lesbo is OP as fuck now.

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>>153132191
>Does Aiz fuck the elf?

Elf got herself a superior waifu.

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>>153132324
Get on with times grandpa.
Slutty dominant elfs are the most common now.

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>>153132391

This.

And Oratoria is a goldmine for elffags.

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>>153132324

Well, this time tentacle rape doujins are pretty much guaranteed.

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>>153132521

>>153131007
It is shit
Oratoria is danmachi with the 2worst girls
wallemestein and lamefiya are both worst girls.

>>153132827

The only shit thing here is your taste.

>>153131007
Agreed. Oratoria is tons better than the main series. Just the awesome high level action alone makes it superior.

>>153131007
yup and it will get a sequel before danmachi does, just like railgun s3 will happen before index s3

>>153133267

The problem is anime may not be able to handle all this action and just use CGI shit.

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I wonder how much they want to animate.

Ending it at 59th floor expedition seems like the most logical choice.

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Sequel incoming?

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>>153134429

Maybe.

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Why are elves so perfect?

>>153131180

>90% of the show's popularity is a girl that isn't going to be seen much in the spinoff

For what pupose?

>>153135458

Oratoria is a much better series in general.

And I'm sure they are going to shove some anime original Hestia scenes in there.

Honestly if it gives me more brown girls i'd be happy.

>>153131007
That's a pretty cute cosplay, Mashiro

>>153135458
Hestia was just a seasonal memegirl. Her being there or not being there wouldn't change anything.

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>>153136914
>>153131007
Oh god damn it

but Aiz is boring. Loki's molestations are gonna have to carry that vanilla.

>>153131007
Index 2 outsold Railgun S, which means, only if it's hamfisted with SOL filler.

>>153137575

Aiz is for badass action scenes. Lefiya is the real MC.

And Oratoria completely destroys Danmachi when it comes to story, action and plot.

>>153137648

Railgun S underperformed hard because 1/3 of the series was a remake of shit we already saw in Index. And Railgun crowd wants girls not dudes.

>>153137954
Most of the "Railgun crowd" was anime only, and probably didn't understand the series. If they saw Fre/nda they'd drop it.

>>153137985
>Fre/nda

Good thing it never happens or even gets mentioned in Railgun.

And it's more like author failed to realize what makes Railgun popular. Not the other way around.

>>153138131
No, Kamachi does understand it. Railgun's manga is now the worst because of it, nothing fucking happens anymore. Accel even has more plot development now.

>>153131007
They're both shit, who cares.

>>153138194
>nothing fucking happens anymore

You mean just like NT?

Face it, entire Raildex went to shit.

HO is the last not shit thing Kamachi writes.

Maybe this first break he took in like a decade will finally make him start writing good stuff again.

>>153131007

I don't Danmachi being good either, so why not?

>>153131007
I fuckin love Hestia

but this is alright too

>>153131180
Is the MC of Oratoria Aiz? Well talk about shitty leads there.

>>153131007
Does Hestia appear in Oratoria?

>>153138131
>>153138336
>the author failed to realize what makes Railgun popular
You don't give a flying fuck about quality, dipshit. Why should the author stop writing what he wants and pander to shitty otaku just to boost sales numbers? You do this same song and dance in Index/HO threads and get BTFO every time, it gets old.

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>>153140513

She is a core character but Lefiya is the real MC.

>>153132345
You faggot.

>>153140962

Stop pretending that rehash of Accel's arc was quality.

ITEM part was great. Everything after that was crap.

>>153140962
>Why should the author stop writing what he wants

Maybe because he's writing garbage for years now? When was the last time NT was good? Railgun's current arc is also mediocre.

>>153141038
That's totally subjective. NT hasn't been bad at all, save for a couple select volumes like NT3 and NT11. Go back to the last few NT translation threads and you'll find the majority have had positive opinions.
Your idea of quality boils down to whatever sells the most and doesn't feature any male leads like the Mariydi volume, so I'll take your opinion with a grain of salt.

>>153141178
>Go back to the last few NT translation threads

You mean those threads that are 5 times slower than they used to be?

Face it, most people dropped Index.

>>153140903
No.

>>153141986
Good.
I might actually watch it then.

>no Bestia

Does it atleast have 2nd best girl: Hephaestus?

>>153142425

Yes. And since Hestia works in her shop I'm sure they will show her in anime.

>>153142425
>no Crapestia

Don't know why you're complaining.

>>153131180
>90% of it's popularity was Hestia.
Hestia was just a meme to get people interested on the show, people watched it for Aiz and cute MC.

>>153143027

Nope. Look at fanart. Even the ones made today.

Danmachi is literally Hestia + few characters nobody care about.

>>153139865
>>153140561
For a retard who claims to be a yurifag, you don't seem to read or watch actual yuri.

You're liking spin-offs (Railgun, Aria AA, that Asterisk spin-off, and this) that are meant to be not just inferior to their harem parents, but they're an implication to Japan's view that yuri will never be as good as het and harem and it will never sell.

This includes all of your favorites that aren't even yuri to begin with and that just piss /u/ off. Demi-chan girls all crave for sensei's dick. Deal with it, "yurifag".

>>153144351
Mugino literally hates actual yuri and exclusively watches series that have male MCs.

>>153131007
Hopefully.

>Hestiafags forcing their shitty headcanon again
The future threads will be fun.

Boxes are for blacks, gays and people with bad armpits.

>>153131007
It has the potential: more action, faster plot and darker for people who dig that. I hope it sell well.

>>153131007
Those series are so shitty. I tried to read it, but it is on the level of schoolboy's fanfic.

>>153137911
I dropped it at the part where the prostitute was still a virgin

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Wasn't Wallenstein a bit of an autist? How the fuck is this going to work out.

This is stupid, why would they make a side story already when they only had 1 cour of the original series which only had little content?

>>153151259
As dumb as that was, you're dumber for expecting otherwise.

>>153145540
Don't forget the fact that he named himself after a woman who he thinks is a lesbian when she's a cock-craving slut in reality.

>>153132199
>Not sure if it's true but I remember reading that supposedly author wanted Oratoria to be the main series. But people in charge went "where is muh self insert? it's not gonna sell" so Danmachi was born.

Are the peeps going to get their just desserts if Oratoria does significantly better than the original?

>>153151332
Her yuribait friend is the real MC

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>>153144351
>but they're an implication to Japan's view that yuri will never be as good as het and harem and it will never sell

Oh yes, that's why Madoka or Love Live were such failures right?

And Railgun anime sold twice as good as Index anime. Manga is selling 4 times as good as the novels now.

Even if Mugino is a retard this changes nothing about the fact that all girl harem spin-offs usually do better than the original.

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>>153154166
>And Railgun anime sold twice as good as Index anime.
Citation needed. Go ahead, I'll wait.
>Manga is selling 4 times as good as the novels now.
Are you seriously comparing manga sales to LN sales? Kill yourself.

>>153152264

Because Danmachi anime was not a big success. It sold mediocre and series only got popular because Hestia.

There is no point in animating S2 when it's pretty much guaranteed to do even worse than S1.

Meanwhile Oratoria is a completely different series in writing and tone so it may very well succeed where Danmachi failed.

>>153154234

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>>153154234
>Are you seriously comparing manga sales to LN sales? Kill yourself.

LN used to sell 250k. Manga used to sell over 300k.

Now LN sells 80k and Manga over 200k.

It clearly shows which one fans prefer.

>>153154334
>Being this retarded

>>153154723
>I have no argument

Railgun made 5 times more $ with merchandise alone. Stop being a retard.

>>153154723

Are you an autist or something? First you say those yuri spin offs are shit inferior to the original. Then you argue that LN are a joke compared to the manga when Railgun is a manga and Index is a fucking LN.

So which one is shit autism-kun?

>>153154903
If you saw the poster count, you would know i'm not the same poster.

I'm just pointing out how utterly retarded comparing LN sales to Manga sales is. The fact that >>153154833 doesn't understand apples to oranges makes him the autist.

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>>153144351

Reminder that Nanoha is a spin-off of a harem VN. And became like 50 times bigger than the source material. To the point almost nobody even remembers that VN existed.

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>>153155100

That retard claims yuri spin-offs are somehow inferior to the harems they are based on. When they almost always become more successful.

Hell, a lot of harem games or VN's become successful anime after they cut the male lead completely and go full yuri fanservice.

>>153155252
Well yeh i don't agree with them being inferior or whatever. Clearly they sell for a reason. But by that same token i wouldn't claim anything is superior because it sells more.

>>153155113
What was the VN?

>>153155252
IdolMaster would like to say hello.

The two anime could've been better it they had female P-sans instead.