It's my first time when i hate the Gundam pilots and want them be dead.
You just haven't gotten far enough, they're the best by the end.
>>153126525
Depends on why you hate them, they are terrorists.
>>153126525
Of course you hate them. They're terrorists.
Hallelujah is also edgy as fuck in the beginning.
Give them time though.
>>153126585
>>153126655
TOH!
>>153126525
One of the few anime's about actual child soldiers in notMiddle-East
You'll learn to at the very least like Setsuna and maybe Tieria or Lockon depending on your tastes.
I personally didn't like any of them at first either and with each rewatch of 00 I cringe harder and harder at anything Hallelujah says. Guy is a real product of his time. Some of the dialogue from these guys is awkward as fuck too.
If you don't finish s2 with Setsuna being one of your favorite Gundam leads, I don't know what to tell you.
>>153126585
I don't belive that i will change my opinion on them but right now i'm waiting for download of S2.
>>153126627
Bunch of kids with PTSD who want to dictate a world mode by killing people.
it's for society to decide how they want to develop what they need to do, or want to do.
I could understand if you suffer from current political mode and try to change it through referendum of masses.
But not through pure force.
It's like middle ages.
>>153126525
So you liked the Wing and SEED pilots? Also I didn't realise it was possible to hate Setsuna.
>>153126758
Celestial Being makes sense when you realize that it takes a lot from Asimov's Foundation novel series, and that Aeolia Schenberg is essentially Hari Seldon. Everything being done is according to plan in order toprepare Earth for alien invasion.
Also you're ignoring that in the end, they created their one-world government at the end of s1 not because CB told them to, but as a countermeasure against CB.
>But not through pure force. It's like middle ages.
No more like that's how literally all of human history has been until about 70 years ago, and probably will be again if and when the UN collapses.
>>153126760
Seed pilots was ok.
In first season i liked those people the most:
Sergei "Wild Bear of Russia" Smirnov
Ali "Gary Biaggi" Al-Saachez, but when Ali killed a reporter it was something off character for my taste and a bit bitter.
>>153126855
>off character
you kidding me?
>>153126585
S2 forces a shitload of awful romance on you, so I doubt that will help.
>>153126855
>but when Ali killed a reporter it was something off character
>Ali killing anyone for any reason
>out of character
Ali never needs a reason to kill anyone, he enjoys it
>>153126852
>spoiler
I'm pretty sure even Aeolia didn't know that was going to happen
>>153126904
The only romance that happens is Anew and Lyle.
If you want to push it, Klaus and Marina's assistant.
>>153126942
Yeah he thought it was going to be the other way around. Humans going to space and bringing their conflicts with them.
He did expect aliens though.
>>153126852
Actually in *spoiler* i thought about it as a reason but they revealed that professor want a world piece.
>they created their one-world government
It's a way to degrade progress, and i think it's destructive method of CB.
>>153126888
Not really.
>>153126907
Competitive killing, it's like sport, but not with woman in it.
>>153126942
Thought the same thing.
>>153126525
00 is cancer. Even best girl couldn't save it.
>>153126758
>I could understand if you suffer from current political mode and try to change it through referendum of masses.
The guy who created Celestial Being was alive 300 years ago in the setting and realized that due to observing trends, the world was not going to change unless it was forced to. And by how the setting showed, he was right.
>>153126525
At first I was indifferent to them now I like them all. Setsuna and Lockon are my favorites. Al-Sacheez is great and one of my favorite FujiKei roles besides Haku.
>>153127007
We obviously weren't watching the same show.
Plus Saji's sister was getting dangerously close to the truth. He took her out so she wouldn't mess up the deal he had going on with space elevator guy who betrayed CB.
>>153126942
I wonder why they made Trailblazer like that. Alien invasion is one of the most inappropriate and unnatural things for Gundam franchise, like "we're Macross/MuvLuv/Fafner/Eureka now, deal with it"
>only has seen s1
>bitching now
You know nothing anon, nothingFUCKING RIBBONS
On the plus side with the movie you'll get to see the greatest work in all of Gundam
>>153126525
>sandnigger protagonist
Dropped
>>153127076
Are we really going to kick around this dead horse of a topic?
Alien contact was hinted at throughout the entire series.
>>153126525
>It's my first time when i hate the Gundam pilots and want them be dead.
Technically he piloted the mk 2 albeit badly
>>153127076
I will say that 00 was not the first Gundam that had aliens in it (though it is the first with living ones). Also they technically weren't invading.
>>153127086
Watching 00 with /a/ and /m/ was something magical.
>>153127109
Did he deserve to die? All signs point to most definitely.
>>153127109
How much I hated this little piece of shit. The only one who was even more irritating and more badly-written was Jerid.
>>153127134
Never forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcEY2EcQeZY
>>153127109
There isn't a person alive who didn't laugh when the asteroid hit
>>153127009
>best girl
>>153127145
NEVER FORGEToh god those fucking subs. Bless those fuckers at gg.
>>153127032
Okay, there is goes my inner thought about all setting.
Four pilots at start, who use four existing lifts for Suits transportation.
And nobody ever find it.
Four people against several countries - and dominate them.
That's not how it works.
>>153127086
Dunno how it will be but now i hate.
>>153127102
Give talib a chance.
>>153127188
They went full TV-Nihon just for the sake of a giggle
>>153127109
I liked Katz even if he was a little shit
>>153127009
Too bad she got a longer uniform later on. Fuck it.
>>153127119
>not the first Gundam that had aliens in it
Which one was first then? Have I missed them in previous series? I've seen every TV, OVA and movie prior to AGE.
>>153127145
It's utter bullshit that this interpretation of CB never showed up in anything else, not even SRW.Imagine at 00's 10th anniversary, a full length film of that bit is announced.
>>153127205
>Four people against several countries - and dominate them. That's not how it works.
It is when the 4 people have Gundams so powerful that they can overwhelm everyone else. But in the end technology catches up to them and they lose.
>>153127232
SEED, the whale
>>153127234
>not even SRW.
Actually it did, it was referenced in Jigoku-hen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6GaIYxoO_0
>>153127205
>>153127205
CB had been active before the anime
>watching non Tomino Gundam
Found your problem.
Has Kenji Kawai ever made a bad soundtrack? Say what you want about 00 but it had a great soundtrack.
>>153127238
What about nukes?
I want to see nukes.
Or economy or financial war.
For suits maintain you must have financial, enterprise, high-tech support.
In the current world we can trace the most money transactions exsept for cash.
>>153127205
Well they're not working on their own.
They're backed by some of the most wealthy people in their world.
It's made a point in S1 that the guy who OWNS the linear trains that take people up to the orbital ring, partially funds CB, and helps transport CB's MS.
It helps that their suits naturally don't show up on radar.
>>153127311
Yeah the second opening is the godlike, i listened it long ago without knowledge of it source.
>>153127268
Kek, Tomino Gundam sucks monkey balls. The only tolerable one is Turn A, while the likes of Zeta are hilarious bullshits.
>>153127350
Never reply to me again.
>>153127314
I don't think you understand Gundam if this is what you want from it. Even in Tomino works it comes down to having the biggest baddest suit on the block. That's the whole point of the franchise, to sell model kits.
>>153127314
See that's where Veda comes in.
Its hands are dug deep into all kinds of data, and can easily cover up that kind of stuff. They make it a point in S2 that it's capable of editing live-broadcasts on the fly with 0 delay.
As for nukes, Memento Mori is basically that.
>>153127366
I can guarantee that.
>>153127392
What did I just say?
>>153127086
Loli!Hallelujah is still like, the best thing.
>>153127407
That I should never reply to you again and I said
>I can guarantee that
>>153127424
I prefer Tieria being a big strong black man. Because really he could be if he wanted to.
>>153127434
If you keep replying to me I'm going to have to do something we'll both regret.
>>153127257
ah. shame that they weren't playable. Even if only for that scene.
>>153127368
But what was Treize's ultimate goal? A soldier's paradise like Big Boss? I'm seriously wondering because I can't remember anything about Wing other than I hated the plot, characters, and animation. Oh and Zechs was an awful Char clone.
>>153127450
Buddy, I said I won't reply to you ever again because you've asked me not to do this. I swear I won't.
>>153127498
I'm warning you. You won't like me when I'm angry.
>>153127372
It's easily can be analyzed through market, enterprise which support Suits - will go up in trades.
Or from information about iron extraction.
I don't think you can hide everything something should be exposed.
You can't just fight in your mecha suit to declare a win, you should use every little thing to determine success.
Just look at Germany or Japan, lost WW II but dominated the world.
>>153127521
But this would mean I need to reply to you.
>First time when I hate the Gundam pilots and want them dead
I take it you haven't seen Bellri and his extremely punchable face?
>>153127558
You're cruising for a bruising pal.
>>153127601
I like angry anons, it is my secret fetish.
>>153127563
I saw that show recently and i liked it a bit.
Only thing i hated - it's a sister thing
>>153127536
Veda literally has control over the world economy.
Plus the MS were manufactured in space. In bases camouflaged as asteroids.
>>153127601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZxCVMsVmOY
>>153127633
I ain't into no gay shit if that's what you're talking about.
Remember when everyone hated seed?
>>153127738
Not really.
Destiny tho
>>153127770
Destiny was fun, we got to see kira get annihilated by a autist.
>>153127738
I wasn't there for it, but overwhelming SEED hate was apparently the reason why /m/ was made.
>>153127770
Can't really say what /a/'s consensus was back then but this is how I feel. Seed was dumb but still entertaining. Destiny was so garbage and wasted potential.
>>153127679
>world economy
>control
Chose one.
>>153127738
But why?
>>153127955
SEED is a decent series, with some pretty good action and nice designs. My biggest issue with it is all the relationship melodrama, particularly the earlier episodes, though thankfully it lessened up on that towards the end.
Destiny is just a complete and utter mess.
>>153127738
I still hate it.
I hate 00 so much. The only good parts were Setsuna, the GN-X, and Sumeragi's perfect tits.
>>153127738
Everyone still hates it. It had it's moments though.
>>153126525
Is it worse than SEED?
>>153126525
S2 shits all over everything S1 set up. Quit while you can. If you think S2 of IBO is bad, this is worse.
>>153127789
And then came back and took his place as Jesus.
>>153126942
>>153126942
Pretty sure the alien shit is foreshadowed with the 'we lost contact with outpost/exploration teams at Jupiter'. Would have been nice to explore from that angle sooner than a single movie.
HIKARI NO KAZE NI NOTTE
>>153129967
>If you think S2 of IBO is bad, this is worse
Oh, come on S2 of 00 isn't THAT bad. It had some good parts like Setsuna fighting Amuro on the moon.
>>153126525
get used to it
>>153126758
It comes back to haunt them in S2.
S2 is literally them trying to fix how badly they fucked up in S1.
Marie
Marie
MARIE
MARIE PARFACY
MARIEEEEEEEEE
>>153127350
Zeta has some good points, but also some really shitty lows.
>purple i-field like magic shield for one scene
Why even do this magical shit, just have him go full insane newtype and dodge it all.
>retard curse for a year
>'no one understands or appreciates me, so I'll team swap because that one guy stared at me a bit'
Fuck rebecca's arc was so fucking stupid. She was somehow a decent enough spy to be used for very important front-line work, but joins titans for some insane reason. Same can be said for katz or any other brat throughout the series. Bright fucks up all the time and never deports their ass back to a station, even after throwing them in the brig once or twice. OBEY or fuck off. Same applies to fa, she fucks up leaving her post a few times and the punishment was revoking pilot privileges.
I'd complain some more about only killing protagonists team during the final 2 episodes as well, that plot armor was horrendous.Dialog was still disjointed but better than it was during 79 or even Reconguista
>>153130413
Reconguista is slightly like Fafner where rewatching it makes more sense, except with Fafner is was on purpose and really well done, Reconguista is because they decide to actually explain shit in the last few episodes.
>Tfw Niel and Lyle got like fucking zero character development when Jihad-kun, Tieria and Ale/Hale all got some nice moments
>>153129397
Animation and charecters design done better, lacking romance and relationships with eachothers.
I will never understand the hate for seed.
NTR was the most iconic in anime.
>>153129967
(You)
>>153126525
Are you literally on the first episode?
Once the series picks up stream they become one of the best.
>>153131364
Read the thread, before posting
>>153131667
I did. I was being ironic.
UC is the only good thing about gundam. AU is all shit.
>>153132222
>they become one of the best
I already answered on this.
>>153133196
Yes. You stubbornly believe you wont change your opinion.
00 really was the last Gundam series that Sunrise where they really tried with the world-building, writing and avoiding from the derivative gundam storyline as much as possible. Every series after that has just not been showing that same level of care and charm.
>>153133569
>You stubbornly believe you wont change your opinion
Why i should?
>>153133675
The new Gundams just for kids, i guess.
Kek.
>>153126525
>He doesn't like Allelujah constantly spouting "Muh-rie"
pleb
>>153130401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWQYvYnZ2OY
>>153135374
>Liking anything by Hiroyuki
Wind in da space.
>>153126525
>The "MUUUH ATHEISM"
>The psycho emo
>The normalfag
>The cisgender
I am right ?
>>153137762
Yeah
>>153126525
>Setsuna is a kurd
>yfw kurds will are still fucked and still fighting for a country that they will never have.
>>153137996
Lol
>4 fucking years later
>No antigundam protection
>Didn't provide public exsecution of the pilot
>Didn't developed tactic against bigrobo
>The fights litterally the same as in S1
Fucking garbage