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>>153052841
Why Vegeta looks like he's tired?
He was dominating Black before the scythe
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perfect characters don't exi-
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>Gohan Meditates for 100 episodes
>Everybody across all 12 universes even the gods and Zenos want to see him in action
>Goku says just wait
>Gohan is finally ready
>He does something cool for four elisodes than gets btfo

You know it will happen
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Trunks I hope you had fun with Mai because you must leave her like right now.
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Prove to me that the black arc is good. no explanation for ss rose. No explanation for trunks transformation. At the time there was no name for it. The ending . Vegito retcon, mafuba built up for nothing. Trunks spirit bomb sword ass pull with no explanatoin.

>/a/ will defend this
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>>153052954
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>>153052990
Manga is fixing it.
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>>153052985
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>>153052990
>Prove to me that the black arc is good.
It's not, well at least the anime version anyway.
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>>153053034
the anime should be able to stand on its own.
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>>153052954
You posted a ningen, and ningens aren't perfect at all.
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>>153052990
It really wasn't. /a/ really praises it just because it was a meme arc, with Zamasu and his "muh ningen" complex.
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>>153053049
Another error in the temporal line. SAD!

OC donut steel you know what you have to do.
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>>153053049
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>Nobody wants to talk about not Deadshot
You are the worst
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>>153052954
Erasa was pretty nice indeed.
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>>153052954
That part of that doujin where she fucks Goten
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>>153053133
This, it had a few decent fights scenes and a good ost but apart from that nothing noteworthy.
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>>153053168
I love the Supreme Shortstack of Time.
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>>153052984
>Handed the power to defeat Cell
>Fucks it up, lets Cell power up and has to be bailed out
>Handed the power to defeat Buu
>Fucks it up, lets Buu power up and has to be bailed out
Will he go for 3?
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>>153052990
Don't forget
>Oops I forgot the Senzu beans
>Oops I forgot the Urn in the time machine
>Oops I forgot the Seal at Kame House
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>>153053090
I agree with you, the anime version is shit. I'm just saying that it's much better in the manga.
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>>153053194
>Joker GoD
>Harley Quinn attendant
>Deadshot fighter
Calm the fuck down, Toriyama.
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>>153053293
I wasn't even a huge Gohan fan, but I honestly am getting sick of family man nerd Gohan, knowing that he can do better, and that if he's really intelligent, he should want to do better.
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>>153053168
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>>153053443
If he's just gonna keep fucking things up, I'd rather he stay on the sidelines and let someone else get some screen tiem
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Holy shit, Pitou could easily kill Goku
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>>153053194
He's stopman
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>>153052954
sluts can't be perfect
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>>153053500
AHAHAHAHHAAHAH GOKU HURT BY BULLETS!!!
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>>153053398
>Skwad has big human croc
>Hakai clown team has an animal fighter
What are the chances Wolf fighter is from hakai clown universe?
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>>153053168
Maybe I'd play that game if it let me be a girl freeza. Or made sayins different then humans other than with SSJ.
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>yfw they hire Young Jijii to do a Universe 10 spinoff manga
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>>153052954
where is some good 34 of this 10/10? google is showing very little stuff
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>>153052954
Heh... nothing personal slut.
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>>153053133
>with Zamasu and his "muh ningen" complex
That's the best part about the arc, especially Miki doing as Zamasu, video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQu3-dt_Fwk
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>>153053500

And people say Goku could beat Saitama? KEK!
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>>153053488
True, I just don't get it. Does he think Goku and Vegeta will stay around forever to protect him and his family's ass?

It's highly irresponsible to have so much potential, only to go "Well I'm not gonna do anything with it because it means I can't be a family man, because my dad was like that."
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>>153053194
Actually he looks more like Deadman otherwise known as Boston Brand.
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I feel bad for Gohanfags. Judging from the previews, he's already hesitant to even join the tournament even though the universe is on the line. I give him one decent match before he jobs and Piccolo or Goku has to step in to clean up his mess.
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>>153053500
Well, looks like not even Dragon Ball Room can fix this shit.
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>>153053500
Fucking Toei is going to do the Krilin "hurt by bullets" again?
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>>153053729
I don't think Toriyama knows about Deadman.
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>>153053588
just download the tail saiyan mod https://xenoversemods.com/mods/saiyan-tail-accessory-for-avatarcac/
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>>153053777
>I feel bad for Gohanfags
You shouldn't. Gohan already had all of the spotlight during Z.
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Watched a couple of clips of the english dub.
Although I never really liked it (Goku sounds like a Superman wannabe) I have to say it's pretty decent.
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>>153053500
JUST

JUST!!!!
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>>153053500
Goku shouldn't be injured by bullets, delete this
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>>153053817
Its a fucking mod.
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>>153053777
Seems like it but we know he's gonna join so I'm actually expecting his role to be at least decent.
If he ever gets a power up I'm gonna lose it.
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>>153053882
>>153053874
>>153053500
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>>153053850
DBZ was better when Goku wasn't the MC.
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>>153053882
Didn't fucking Raditz's skin deflect bullets?

Even with that whole "not being on-guard" bullshit, Goku's skin should stop that shit. Toei, or Toriyama, or whoever is responsible is fucking retarded.
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Say what you want about Gohan, but at least he has never jobbed to bullets.
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>>153053777
When is Gohan going to throw out that tracksuit?
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>>153053874
Ningen technology is just getting better and better
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>But seriously what the fuck is Super's production even. It's destroying every good director at Toei.

>Can't wait to watch a tournament arc crash and burn... again.

>What's even sadder is that there are people who think the filler episodes will help the production in the upcoming arc.
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>>153053500
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>>153053944
why would he? it's fucking sick
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>>153053927
That was the precise moment the sales dropped and the moment it was decided Goku should como visit and then revive.
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>>153053500
Guys I think I got. he won't be hurt by bullets, but by the mean words the robbers will tell him, he goes to train with Wish, but mentally, right?
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>>153053889
Yes and?
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>>153053952
That's a beautifully scaled drawing.
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>>153053946
>>153053882
>>153053919
>>153053874
Ever heard of PIS?

Fucking retards

I hate Toei so godamn much
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>>153053976
Nips have shit taste, what else is new?
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>>153053500
>leave Goku to me
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>>153053932
Bullets haven't done shit to Goku since literally the beginning of Dragon Ball.
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>>153053973
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>>153053500
>slightly injured
serously Goku
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>>153053976
Based nips. But it was Toriyama himself who changed his mind about making Gohan the MC.
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Who's ready for Bra tonight? Vegeta better take his daily dose so he can relax a bit.
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>>153053500
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>>153054070
Friendly reminder that the bullet was the energy bullet she got from Bulma
Considering he got caught completely off guard this reaction is understandable
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Relax faggots, Goku probably injured himself, not the bullets.
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>>153053987
Nah, he'll scare them off and as they flee in their car they'll run over his foot and it'll hurt and it'll be hilarious.
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>>153053500
>>153054070
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favorite Super scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSb3IqUmYLE
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>>153053850
Even him getting humiliated is a waste of screen time. If the gohans could just die everything will be super
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>>153053996
I'm not that easily seperated from my jew gold, and the story mode is basically just inserting the OC through DBZ&S maybe if the story actually dared to go off the rails or the character generator didn't need mods to make the flagship race I might be into it.
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>>153053722
you forgot to post your vid zeon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6wC3Lw-Ioc
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>>153054272
Already posted
>>153053675
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>>153052954
Are my eyes decieving me or does she actually have biceps? Pretty rare considering anime is filled with pencil thin girly arms.
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>>153054272
This scene is so powerful because it's kind of the "end" of Gohan's journey from childhood to manhood. He surpasses his father, find his motivations by himself and is now ready to beat the crap out of an enemy that is in part his own father, his friends and one of their nemesis (Freeza).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fkgpe1Wmt4
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>>153054306
Super is pretty shit, but that faggot Zeon is so insufferable.
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>>153052985
Xenoverse Trunks is a different person than Super Trunks
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do we have confirmation the new opening starts tonight?
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>>153054374
why/how?
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>>153052954
why does this looks so damn good, it's like a softer way of drawing or something instead of all ridgedness and clean look when they do it for the recent movies.
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>>153054292
http://pcgames-download.net/2016/10/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-deluxe-edition-codex-crack/

you want something more?
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So which God is Universe 9's?
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>>153054367
The designs for the DB anime back then were pretty thicc. The females were pretty stacked.
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>>153054411
yes it is confirmed
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>>153054499
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>>153054522
That pic makes 18 look like some uncanny valley cyborg
good job
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>>153054499
>>153054569
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>>153052939
That's his stance for counter attacking.
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>>153053777
Are we 100% sure at the stage where gohan is hesitant that they know the universe is on the line? Don't just assume things LULfag
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>>153053919
you're next little man!
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>>153054013
>Nips have shit taste, what else is new?
Explain this then.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/oF4TU_7jibg/AB01L6218nkJ
>5/3/93
I read somewhere that Goku got killed by Cell and couldn't be brought back to life ?
Why is this ??
Did he get killed by Cell ??
Really a Dragonball Z without Goku seems pretty pointless to me at the moment....

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/oF4TU_7jibg/wIRJQwz_naAJ
>5/3/93
I really don't think DBZ without Goku as lead character will be worth watching. Besides, what's next? Dragonball ZZ? End it the way it is ...
Personal opinion: DBZ's popularity will fade without Goku, Trunks and Piccolo. Guess we'll see.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/FyF7TonucrE/RqofZAOqYEEJ
>5/7/93
Oh my god.... A super-saiya-jin Gohan fighting bank robbers? ... I guess it is still too early to put down the new series .... But Gohan fighting bank robbers?????Ahhhhhhhhh .... This is starting to look like Gundam ZZ .

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.arts.anime/Zct2PbI_JM8
>6/21/93
This is really getting grotesque. Analogy time: I've started to consider Dragonball ZZ being to DBZ what BGCrash! was to BGCrisis -- a bad idea. A REAL bad idea. Sorry to be so negative, but everything from Goku's death onwards just sounds like drek. Sigh.
(Note: "Dragonball ZZ" is what some people at the time referred the series as when Gohan became the main character)
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>>153054475
Better be the goddess, she looks the most ningenish from the GoDs we already saw.
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>>153054797
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/kAUNNmKWLko/_q6TUK8Go7UJ
>11/28/93
It's interesting: these three seem to stay in the same positions, poll after poll, most of the time. Although Gohan seems to have taken a beating recently. "Super Saiya Man" my a***, the boy needs a wardrobe.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/ualD3o2s-Ik/MlBaMnKyZ7oJ
>11/29/93
I think the best point to end it would have been at the end of the Cell saga. Gohan was just, plain AWESOME! Now, he's turning into Super Saiyan to defeat bank robbers. Blech!

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/tWN6d8_9GUY/MerB9WLuPmkJ
>12/16/93
In the MOST RECENT episodes, Goku is DEAD and the attention has shifted over to Gohan, who is now entering High School. I refuse to watch this.
Goku is and always will be :) the protagonist, although lately ...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/mG-U9ePK7zo/PdxvEQsPDykJ
>1/30/94
Amazing ... Gohan out of top 20!! Maybe his new image is not that good as the old one ...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/xyASSW0UyXs/57TBSxmJW8YJ
>2/13/94
Yeah, I preferred him when he was fighting Cell. It seems to me that he's gotten weaker. One thing I noticed that really bugged me was when he stopped the bank robbers, he turned Super Saiyan. Now, if little Goku can knock down a 500 lb. wrestler with a tap with his finger, what's a Super Saiyan's punch and kick supposed to do to a bank robber?!!!!

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.anime/HXq_S2tj-RM/gCjXyR2v8G0J
>1/21/96
Gohan has become a grade A loser.
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>>153054569
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>>153054797
>>Nips have shit taste, what else is new?
>Explain this then.
You just confirmed they indeed have shit taste, what's your point?
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>>153054070
high tech bullet.
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>>153054797
Shit posting weebs, funny how giving into fan demands makes everything terrible. They should have let Goku stay dead.
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>>153054872
The point is that the nips weren't the only ones who disliked the idea of Gohan becoming the new MC.
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>>153054797
Was that a reference to how ZZ was shit compared to Z gundam?
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>>153054434
the outlike blends with the background, it's not black like in Super
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>>153053235
Doujin name pls
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>>153054475
Gimli
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>>153054916
>giving into fan demands
Nah, Toriyama himself realized Gohan isn't suited to be a MC.
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>>153055025
It's referring to the tone shift.
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>>153054855
I miss THICC Bulma. She looks like a stick with tits in Super. That goes for the rest of the females too.
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>>153054420
Sperglord.
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>rocks
>lasers
>now bullets

how long until goku goes down to arrows
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>>153053049
Thats a Mio Akiyama copy pasta gujs.
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>Turning down your father when he ask you to fight alongside him
>The universe is on the line
>Your wife and kid are apart of that universe

Even Krillin got over being a bitch in the span of two episodes and he still will fight. Fuck Gohan
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>>153055105
Namak was great before Goku got there and the androids and Cell were better when wasn't there to do shit, DBZ didn't need a super MC to save the day always just an ensemble cast figuring out how to get shit to work.
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>>153055308
Earth would have moved to the nearly identical U6 big fucking deal.
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When did Krillin go from smug and calm to permanently shocked/jittery?
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>>153055406
After Frieza blew him up
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>>153055450
Before that, when he first felt Freeza.
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>>153055389
We're talking about this upcoming tournament. The loser's universe gets destroyed.
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>>153055499
>when he first felt Freeza.

That's lewd anon.
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>>153055531
Isn't Gohan in the roster? If so it looks like he didn't turn down Goku.
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>>153055541
>Dicaustism meme
Vadoku is NOTP delet this.
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>>153055617
I wonder if the guy knows he is a 4chan meme now?
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>>153055598
I'll show you lewd!
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>>153052841
>fight with the universe's survival at stake
>bring tien and roshi
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Someone post the "Are ya winning son?" pic.
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>>153055406
Krillin also used to be a bit of a perv like Roshi, he matured.

But he probably smacks 18's ass when Marron isn't around.
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>>153055720
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>>153055757
>But he probably smacks 18's ass when Marron isn't around.
Do you think he fucked 18 while she was breast feeding Marron?
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Hey Krillin
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>>153055786
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>>153055798
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>>153055748
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So who'll female broly's opponent be?
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Friendly reminder that the Universe Survival arc has a new director: Tatsuya Nagamine (Heartcatch Precure).
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>>153055837
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>>153055908
>(Heartcatch Precure).
Isn't that one of the better animated Precure series?
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>>153055541
dicasty > toyotaro
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>>153055879
Thanks anon
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>>153055958
mexico is a scourge
>>153055879
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>>153055883
She'll job to Buu when he turns her to candy.
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>>153053952
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>>153055962
Yeah, but remember that season also had Umakoshi as chief animation director. It will probably have good choreography, though.
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>>153055798
Maybe
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>>153055798
It's more likely that Roshi did that while they were living with him.
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>>153055798
I'm not sure mate i need proofs of that
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>>153056092
>has already molested Chi Chi, Bulma, Videl and 18

It's only a matter of time for Mai, Pan, Bra and Marron.
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>>153056249
>Impliying Muten is interested in old hags like Mai
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>>153056249
When their bodies develop yes.
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Fights storyboarded by the new Super director:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2kYgrgLCG0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tyDJ5b4yZ8
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>>153053791
HE LIKES DC COMICS
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>>153056013
>Buu could just turn all his opponents into candy but won't think to do so.

When will the based Buus return from the war?
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>>153054499
Now I see why black people love Dragonball so much.
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>>153056375
They died with Kid Buu
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>>153054522
>manga namekian
Fucking IT'S
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>>153056375
>Buu will never be cool again
https://youtu.be/s0N2HluuoeQ
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Stream for episode is possible or still some salty faggot report links?
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>>153056362
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2kYgrgLCG0
There may be hope for this arc yet.
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>>153054522
18 looks weird
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>>153056754
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>>153056811
refer to >>153056604
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Hope we see girl Broly soon.
I wonder who she'll fight
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>>153054855
krillin confirmed irish
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>>153053500
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>>153052841
>the beers the destroyer saga
>beers
THE FUCK IS THIS
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>>153056948
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>>153057006
Goku will probably stub his toe or bang his knee on a rock like he did when fighting Yakon
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>>153056811
I still don't know why 18 finds that manlet tough and cool.

I bet 17 wonders the same thing.
>>
what do you people think vegetas reaction will be to girl brolly
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>>153057188
Alcoholism destroys lives
>>
So since Toyotracer is going to be "in charge" of the anime now, does that mean all the fight scenes will just be rehashes of earlier DB/DBZ scenes? Or I'm sorry, HOMAGES.
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>>153057188
It is toei's official romanticization
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>>153057303
What if 17's wife is short like Krillin?
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>>153057307
>HOW MANY SIT-UPS DOES SHE DO
>WHAT KIND OF JUICE DOES SHE DRINK

>>153057189
Cabba would probably jizz himself seeing her bulk up like that. Saiyans love strong women
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>If Yamcha was in the group we've could've had a homage to the original Z-fighters
>but instead we get Roshi cause we need that le wacky moments
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>>153057330
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>>153057330
They might as well be since Toei's choreography blows without Toriyama's panels.
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>>153057330
>all the fight scenes will just be rehashes of earlier DB/DBZ scenes
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>>153057417
But what if he isn't ready to be a dad?
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whats his name /tv/?
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>>153057442
>that pic
TOPKEK
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>>153057330
what happens when toyotaro runs out of material to trace
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>>153057456
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>>153057487
Deadshot.
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>>153057487
obaump
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>>153057434
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>>153057509
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>>153057487
Senate
>>
Hi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_1AfghP44&ab_channel=HarryPrice
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>>153057487
The Senate
possibly Deadshot
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>>153057509
>>153057556

Whoa
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>>153053034
The manga has already broken more than it can fix on it's own.
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>>153057569
Based anon
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>>153057487
Wruce Bayne
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>>153057643
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>>153053500
>Goku is weaker than when he was a kid

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>153057487
Batman
>>
What ever happened to Ressurection as Yamcha?
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>>153053789
It's the start of the arc anon, this is all Tori now
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>>153057664
>Bayne
Is he a big guy?
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>>153057569
sounds pretty good
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>>153053500
TOEI STOP
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>>153057684
As expected from Raditz's younger brother
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>>153057590
https://twitter.com/AnimeAjay/status/826494157556482048
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>>153057665
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Has there been any good episodes since the black arc? I stopped watching around about there, also how come 17 is back?
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>>153053500
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>>153057569
where the hell did "harry price" find this
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>>153057792
ANON
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>>153057487
xXx_S3phiroth_xXx
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>>153057748
No, it's a ningen
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>>153057590
Toriyama has forgot how to draw Kid Goku.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_1AfghP44

What do you think of the OP, /a/?
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>>153053679
Yes. People actually think this.
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>>153053707
Well, Uub is a thing so he can do it. He'll probably be a battle freak like Goku so there wont be worrys of him turning to a pussy.
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>>153057806
After Future Trunks/Black arc it has been all filler, but some were enjoyable like the baseball episode.
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>>153054635
>That's his stance
t. Toeishill
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>>153052939
Death pony
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>>153057590

KEK WHERE IS GOHAN?
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>>153053952
Yeah, Super's production was good before... right
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>>153057834
I CAN'T GET NO SATISFACTION
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>>153057924
WHAT ABOUT ME
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>>153057923
what would you like us to do with this information?
>>153057834
already posted>>153057569
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>>153052990

There's no explanation for half the shit in DB you autist. Why can Trunks and Goten just go SSJ for no reason? Why are there even forms beyond the first super saiyan? Why didn't Super Saiyans come much sooner? Literally why was Gohan ever some magic power child? Why are cyborg humans stronger than cyborg Frieza? How the fuck does Perfect Cell even come back from his own explosion? How do Kami and Piccolo not know that they are aliens? Why did 3 fucking fighters (SSJ3 Goku, Gohan, Vegito) allow Buu to live when they could have killed him? Why did Vegito ever defuse in the first place?

I know what you'll respond with, the asspull explanation given in the show or the retarded fancanon explantion. Truth is a lot in DB makes no sense if you don't fill in any blanks yourself.

Stop being so fucking autistic and overly critical of this show. It has never stood up to the scrutiny you are applying, ever.
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>>153057924
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_1AfghP44

OP IS OUT
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>>153057812
Anon, it's been so long!
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>>153057988
>t. Toei shill
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>>153057988
the flaws of dbz dont't erase the flaws in the goku black arc. And are we to just accept asspulls them?
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>>153058018
Forgive me anon, I was hiding with Gohanfag
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>>153057873
That's literally one of his stances now. Fuck Toei for being consistent for once within their own work.
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>>153057456
>waaaah waaaaah a cross-counter is something totally original that DB did waaaaaahh
Shut the fuck up, Toyocuck.
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>>153057988
>Why can Trunks and Goten just go SSJ for no reason? Why are there even forms beyond the first super saiyan? Why didn't Super Saiyans come much sooner? Literally why was Gohan ever some magic power child? Why are cyborg humans stronger than cyborg Frieza? How the fuck does Perfect Cell even come back from his own explosion? How do Kami and Piccolo not know that they are aliens? Why did 3 fucking fighters (SSJ3 Goku, Gohan, Vegito) allow Buu to live when they could have killed him? Why did Vegito ever defuse in the first place?
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>>153053500
>Koenma.png
Wait for it, waaaaaiiit for it...
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>>153057487
Darth Faggis.
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>>153058047

No, I'm just saying you either hate all of Dragon Ball or you don't. Just blasting Super for the same "flaws" that were present in Z makes you look like a retarded nostalgia child.

By all means hate DB, but stop acting like Super has suddenly does something horrific and terribel when it's exactly the fucking same.

25 years or so ago there were people like you baawwwing about how Goku was now an alien and that DB was a Superman rip off. The series is retcons and asspuls incarnate and most fans don't care as long as there's at least an adequate explanation/room for fancanon. Just enjoy the fucking ride.

>>153058043

t. memer
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>>153058001
I understand Android 16. But why would Gohan give a fuck about 18 and 17?
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>>153053944
His super saiyan powerup will leave him nude for the first round of the tournament.
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>>153058047
You've been accepting them for 20+ years so why is it a problem now?
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>>153058049
It's okay anon. I've been busy shitposting, but I never forgot about you.
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>>153057923
Go to his devianart.
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>>153058173
They're innocent anon.
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>>153058169
>25 years or so ago there were people like you baawwwing about how Goku was now an alien and that DB was a Superman rip off.
Try again dumbass
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>>153058226
Why did Vegeta cut off his bangs?
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>>153058100

>grasping at straws
>named like a dozen unexplained/poorly explained things in DB/Z off the top of my head to prove the point that this sort of thing is ingrained in the series.

We're talking about a show that was once about a monkey boy looking for magic orbs, that is now about superhumans fighting cat gods and other shit, and you don't expect retcons.
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>>153058001
>The fucking filler dragon taking so much space
TOEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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>>153058220
Bless you anon, I'll always remember you.
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>>153058226
>Tagoma
>Sorbet
>Janemba
Why would Vegeta give a fuck about them?
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>>153058169
>Just enjoy the fucking ride.
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>>153058237
>foreshadowing

Shut the fuck up.

>I’d hardly thought out anything. I hadn’t come up with the concept of him being an alien until Vegeta came, and I think I originally meant his giant ape form to be “just a transformation”, like a werewolf. For it to turn out over the course of the writing that “Goku’s really an alien!” was something that took even me by surprise. (laughs) At any rate, I had really only thought, “I’ll make a motif of Journey to the West, with a little bit of Kung-Fu thrown in.” I was prepared for it to end after 10 weeks if it wasn’t a hit.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/tenkaichi-densetsu-toriyama-koyama-nozawa/

Pic related is the absolute earliest Toriyama could have foreshadowed it. What you posted is just a coincidence.
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>>153058237

It wasn't revealed that Goku was an alien until the Saiyan saga of DBZ. It was never implied that he was from outer space.

DB was a story with wacky and retarded shit, Goku turning into a giant monkey barely stood out.
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>>153058226
>Neither Trunks.
AYYY LMAO!
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>>153058047
>And are we to just accept asspulls them?
This is the dragonball series anon.
A series where humans and a humanoid rabbit were sent to the moon and survived it's destruction.
A series where a biological organism can absorb humans augmented by machines through his tail to facilitate a transformation that doesn't involve those machines and throw up one of those humans at full size perfectly fine.
A series where magic gas can dissolve a fusion meant for gods.
A series where a planet can take five minutes to explode and in that time a dragon can be summoned, a wish to revive the inhabitants of the planet can be made, a child can receive instruction to make a wish to transport those inhabitants to earth and Goku can still have a lengthy battle with Frieza after that.

Just about every major arc in this series has some kind of magnificently bullshit asspull.
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>>153058299
>>153058291

kek
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>>153058372
Fuck you!
>>
>ITT Toei apologist damage controlling
Fuck off, the Zamasu arc was trash.
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>>153058100
I'll try to answer some of that for him.

>Why can Trunks and Goten just go SSJ for no reason?
Parents knowledge and skills are passed down genetically.

>Why are there even forms beyond the first super saiyan?
To create suspense and tension, also bullshit power-ups help the story move forward.

>Why didn't Super Saiyans come much sooner?
Cause Frieza was supposed to be where DBZ ended and Goku died.

>Literally why was Gohan ever some magic power child?
It was stated throughout the series that Saiyan and Human hybrids are stronger due to emotions.

>Why are cyborg humans stronger than cyborg Frieza?
Cause the next unplanned villain had to be stronger than Frieza. Also 18 best girl.

>How the fuck does Perfect Cell even come back from his own explosion?
Can't really defend that one.

>How do Kami and Piccolo not know that they are aliens?
Wasn't it amnesia or something? Also Kami knew he was an Alien after a while if I'm remembering this correctly.

>Why did 3 fucking fighters (SSJ3 Goku, Gohan, Vegito) allow Buu to live when they could have killed him?
Mr. Satan was the reason Buu was defeated, and he not only tamed Fat Buu, but vouched for him.

>Why did Vegito ever defuse in the first place?
The magic inside Buu, unless you're talking about Super.

lol Toei.
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>>153058308

>lol enjoy eating ur shit meme

The series still has many enjoyable things. Unlike you I don't cry because an actual adequate explanation was given for the defusing of Vegito.

Now enjoying GT would be eating shit.
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>>153058377
>>153058169
>>153057988

>DBZ ALWAYS SUCKED SO DON'T YOU DARE CRITICIZE DB SUPER
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>>153058452
>Fuck off, the Zamasu arc was trash.
Because of Toriyama. He's a hack who doesn't remember how the fuck time travel works within his own series.
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>>153058352
You seem upset.
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>>153058389
>Dragon Ball GT
> Implying it's canon
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>>153058452
You're as bad as him going
>toei shill
every three posts. Go fucking kill yourself with him.
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>>153058452

>ITT: one butthurt faggot who is surprised to learn no one thinks he's cool for hating new things.
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>>153054635
I always thought that stance looked dumb.
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>>153058460
>Cause Frieza was supposed to be where DBZ ended and Goku died.
Nice misconception, retard.
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>>153058499
>Because of Toei
ftfy retard.
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>>153058297
Me too anon.
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Fuck have these threads always been this bad, or they deteriorated during the filler season?
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>>153058515
I'm sick of morons like you trying to make Toriyama seem like he's a fucking genius mastermind when he's a moronic hack.
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>>153058460

All of this falls under the category of fancanon and retcons. Proving my point.

You don't even seem to be aware a lot of what you said is fancanon.
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>>153058482
>The series still has many enjoyable things.
Shit eater indeed.
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>>153058576
Both.
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>>153058567
>Because of Toriyama. He's a hack who doesn't remember how the fuck time travel works within his own series.
I repeat myself.
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>>153058049
>>153058018
Wakky Wakky this time line need a repair
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>>153058570
>>153058653
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>>153058377
Super Saiyan 3 remains one of Z's big asspulls. Zero foreshadowing before it happened, and we STILL don't know how it's attained or even how Goku found out about it. Nobody's ever achieved it on-screen.
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>>153058601
>I'm sick of morons like you trying to make Toriyama seem like he's a fucking genius mastermind
But he is, hence why he was able to create one of the most popular and influential manga of all time. Stay mad.
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>>153058389
>not Mai
What a ningen
>>
The anime staff are entertaining writers but not particularly good ones. Toyotaro is a good editor but a really, really mediocre story-teller. Toriyama.... needs to go the fuck away.
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>>153058601
The entire Android/Cell Saga hinges on the asspull that is Doctor Gero
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>>153058694
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>>153058650
See >>153058567
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>>153058653
Stop being a third-wheel, anon.

>>153058694
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>>153058389
>GT
>No Mai
Shit.
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>>153058764
See >>153058650
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>>153058752
>>153058766
>>153058776
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>>153058725
>>153058776
Mai is in the last page with Trunks.
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>>153058746
Or you could drop the series yourself.
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>>153058544
The Zamasu arc was pretty mediocre in all honesty.
Also
>new things
HA
>>
shippers and N word spammers should be banned
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>>153058798
>no argument
I accept your concession.
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>>153054070
He just fall from his chair because of the bullet force.
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>>153058607
Listen to this man.

If you like DBS, you'll overlook its flaws and just enjoy it. If you don't like DBS, you WON'T overlook it's flaws and you'll come on /a/ to whine about it. But don't pretend like inconsistencies are the reason why you hate it. They never bothered you before.
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>>153058716
>popularity=skill
Yeah man, people like Justin Bieber and One Direction are extremely talented musicians, amirite? Fucking retard. Can I have some of your wool? It's cold outside.
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>>153058460
>Parents knowledge and skills are passed down genetically.
I see, so Tori believes in lamarckism and it wasn't a gag?
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>>153058890
Don't be jealous anon.
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>>153058883
I said Toriyama fucked up the time travel. You just said Toei was at fault without explaining why. You're the one without an argument, retard.
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I miss the RoF Gi that Goku had.
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>>153058812
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>>153058947
>I said Toriyama fucked up the time travel.
Except that was Toei retard, hence why it's different in the manga. Kill yourself.
>>
>1 hour left
HOLD ME
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>>153058694
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>>153058460
You do realise that just about all of these reasons are headcanon right?

>Parents knowledge and skills are passed down genetically.
How exactly do you know this? Was it stated anywhere by any official source? Because it certainly wasn't in the anime or manga.

>To create suspense and tension, also bullshit power-ups help the story move forward.
This didn't even answer anything because the context was clearly in terms of the story.

>Cause Frieza was supposed to be where DBZ ended and Goku died.
Was there ever any legitimacy to this statement to begin with?

>It was stated throughout the series that Saiyan and Human hybrids are stronger due to emotions.
Not due to emotions seeing as Saiyans are naturally a species that grow stronger in relation to their emotions case in point the first appearance of Super Saiyan. Anyway they just were stronger for no particular reason.

>Cause the next unplanned villain had to be stronger than Frieza. Also 18 best girl.
So no explanation.

>Can't really defend that one.

>Wasn't it amnesia or something? Also Kami knew he was an Alien after a while if I'm remembering this correctly.
Something like he was sent away from Namek after some kind of storm threatened to destroy the planet. In any case being in contact with someone like Enma or even the previous Kami should have yielded the answers at some point.

>Mr. Satan was the reason Buu was defeated, and he not only tamed Fat Buu, but vouched for him
SSJ3 vs Fat occurred before the taming. Goku admitted he could have defeated him but left him for the kids or something
Gohan was Super Buu who he could have easily killed prior to absorbing.
Vegito was trying to save those absorbed seemingly forgetting that the Dragonballs exist.
Basically they could have ended the arc ages ago but they needed some asspulls to extend it.

>The magic inside Buu, unless you're talking about Super
Magic gas makes less sense than a time limit in all honesty.
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Its incredible how ONE person can turn into shit an entire thread for months and months in a row.
I wonder how better this thread would be with him banned.
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>>153058888
>But don't pretend like inconsistencies are the reason why you hate it. They never bothered you before.
Just because no one here is making posts/comments about how the previous shows had problems does not that it "never bothered us before".
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>>153058802
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>>153057988
>Why didn't Super Saiyans come much sooner?
That bothered me too. As foul-tempered as they are surely someone would have done it
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>>153058990
>different in the manga

So you're fucking retarded? I'm talking about Beerus killing Zamasu creating a separate timeline, not the fucking time loop, that's a different issue.

Drink bleach.
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>>153059019
Who the
>t. toei shill
retard or the
>This is how dragonball always was
retard?
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>>153058491

When did I say DBZ sucked? Why do things fall into the category of SHIT and PERFECT to you? DBS has the same "flaws" that Super has. Depending on what you look for in a show you can overlook them and enjoy it still, or not.

But what I get annoyed by is people who hate Super yet claim to still like Z when they both have the same "problems". I can understand Dragon Ball fans who hate on Z and Super, but Z fans hating on Super makes no sense to me.
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>tfw my Ginefags are extinct

It isn't fair.
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>>153058989
>elder kai and roshi perving best girls
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where can i watch this dragon ball live with my fellow weebs
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NEW OPENING!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_1AfghP44
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>>153059049
>I'm talking about Beerus killing Zamasu creating a separate timeline
Wait not him but where's the mistake there?
Well aside from the fact that it means there should have been five copy rings because Whis rewound time in RoF.
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>>153053952
>Toei finally manages to convince Toriyama to let make more Dragonball
>Shit goes great for the two movies they make in terms of profit, so they decide that they can make another series
>Except Toei doesn't fucking adjust it's TV series formula for Dragonball because the people at Toei think the bigger a franchise is, the less effort they have to put into the TV series
>Instead of being a megahit, they're constantly being shat on and have to rely on cheap nostalgia hooks that never deliver because they're rushing the shit out without actually spending time and manpower on it since they think the don't need to because the Japanese public eats anything made for a popular brand no matter the quality
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>>153058866
>N word.
Kneegrows?
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>>153059037
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is the episode now or in an hour?
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>>153059049
>retard doesn't understand how timetravel works
Kill yourself.
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>>153052841
episode WHEN?
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>>153059130
Ningen
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>>153059080

*DBZ

rather
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>>153059139
One hour
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byebye chouzetsu dynamic, you will not be missed
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So do we have a link or anything?
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>>153059127
>Wait not him but where's the mistake there?
Time machines create seperate timeline.

Beerus creating a seperate timeline by KILLING someone makes no sense, because Zamasu in the timeline he lived still had to meet Beerus and escape him somehow. Not to mention he's not exactly changing time in any way... he's just acting on his timeline. It's just moronic.
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>>153058068
No it's literally a non canon shitstain of a "stance".
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>>153058969
I liked it as well. I was never a big fan of the undershirt, nor the sash without a knot.
I also liked the color of Vegeta's new clothes. The gray color didn't clash with Blue's hair and clothes like the old ones do.

I wonder why they bothered having new clothes for Goku and Vegeta to just revert to the old ones after one arc.
Was the fan reaction to the new clothes bad or something?
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>>153059149
>No argument

Get banned, I bet you're the same "kek Toeishill lmao" retard.
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>>153058866
>>153059151
N posters are the lesser of the evil, compare them to
>power level fags
>canonfags
>anime vs manga discussion what never end well
>>153059178
DELETE THIS
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>>153052954
>muscles AND curves

L-lewd...
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>>153058969
It would've been perfect if the lapels were blue too, and that Whis autograph was gone

Seriously that insignia really fucking bothers me
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>>153059212
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NEW OPENING

NEW OPENING

NEW OPENING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_1AfghP44
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>>153053777
Hey, I'm a fan of Gohan, but I'm not deluded : no one except Goku is relevant, except Vegeta maybe.

Gohan's coming back only for the posters and to hype Gohanfags.

DBS has nothing in store for Gohan but fillers and disappointment. Japs cried during all DBZ for Goku, Tori has learned that 20+ years ago, so here you go : Goku everywhere, hero and villain.

Aside that, love the new opening song. Catchy.
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why the fuck is there so much shipping in a Dragonball thread
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>>153059212
>>153059283
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>>153059192
>Time machines create seperate timeline.
Any kind of alteration causes a separate timeline .

>Beerus creating a seperate timeline by KILLING someone makes no sense, because Zamasu in the timeline he lived still had to meet Beerus and escape him somehow.
It's not that hard to understand anon. When Whis rewound time they essentially just time traveled back in the same way Trunks did, just without a time machine so that timeline played out and created Black.
When Beerus killed Zamasu in the previous timeline they created a new one.

It's literally the same way it always worked.
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>>153059283
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>>153059207
>Toei makes Vegeta have a stance
>makes it consistently one of Vegeta's new stance
>anon complains about the stance
>other anon points out that it's consistent in the anime for Vegeta to have that stance
>HURR DURR NON CANON SHITSTAIN FUCK TOEI THE BOOGEYMAN

It's like complaining that Goku learns a new move in filler and then the very next episode he uses it.
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>>153059192
Time Machines don't create timelines, butterfly effects significantly change the course of history create new timelines you retard.
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>>153059306
Because Gohanfag isn't here. The real one, not the mexican one
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>>153059358
Ignore the retard.
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>>153057923
WHO WATCHES THIS.
WHY'D YOU WATCH THIS
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>>153059080
what makes you think people who criticize db super don't acknowledge/critisice the problems in z.
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>>153052954
She probably got blacked.
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>>153059368
>>makes it consistently one of Vegeta's new stance
Happens in 2 literally trash tier episodes doesn't make it "consistent".
It probably won't even appear anymore either.
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Is it true the tournament allows killing? If so this will actually be interesting, Mortal Kombat shit.
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>>153059392
Haven't been in the threads in a few months. Does he do this often?
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>>153059358
>Any kind of alteration causes a separate timeline .
Alterations only come about due to time machines changing destiny. It's not an "alteration" because Beerus finding out about Zamasu, going to his planet and meeting him should have been part of destiny as it wasn't part of a different timeline. If it wasn't part of a different timeline, then it means it happened in both timelines, which makes no sense.

>It's not that hard to understand anon. When Whis rewound time they essentially just time traveled back in the same way Trunks did, just without a time machine so that timeline played out and created Black.
Whis going back in time doesn't create timelines, this was explained already.

>When Beerus killed Zamasu in the previous timeline they created a new one.
Yes, one where Zamasu is alive. How the fuck is Zamasu alive if the timeline split when Beerus was right about to destroy him?

>It's literally the same way it always worked.
No it's not. Timelines split because of time machines, not because of something that happens within the timeline, since that's idiotic.
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>>153059080
>when they both have the same "problems"
Except that isn't true.
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>>153059447
It's a shitty fucking stance too.
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>>153057923
>Vados pregnant
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>>153059473
I don't know why you're paying attention to the "LOLZ TOEISHILL" retard. The time travel being fucked up in both the anime and the manga is an acknowledged fact at this point. Go to Kanzenshuu, reddit or whatever and everyone will tell you the same thing.

In fact,

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=37274
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>>153059393
>>153059545
>They don't know about it
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>>153058452
It produced probably the best db meme of all times
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>>153059492

Except it is like I've already proven. Dragon Ball Super is obviously different in terms of structure than Z, but 99% of Zfags don't complain about that. They complain about "baaww muh potara" and other really trivial shit.

It's like they don't realise that their beloved Z pretty much entirely retconned and replaced the lore set in Dragon Ball.
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>>153058389
>that piccolo
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>>153057923
Mexic/a/ns here, is this man taken seriously in the spanish db community? The views,subscriber count, and like to dislike ratio make me believe he is not hated as much as he should be
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>>153059660
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>>153058460
>The magic inside Buu

Not an argument
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>>153059618
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>>153059591
>The time travel being fucked up in both the anime and the manga
>manga
*citation needed*
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will gohan uncuck himself?
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>>153059484
>How the fuck is Zamasu alive if the timeline split when Beerus was right about to destroy him?
You retard.
Zamasu being killed is what caused the split, he literally wasn't meant to die so that made a split where he did and the original where he didn't.
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>>153059635
>Except it is like I've already proven
No not really.
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>New lyrics to New OP
>I can get no satisfaction

Holy shit

Goku confirmed for villain
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>>153059692
>Not an argument
Why not?
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>>153057988
>Why didn't Super Saiyans come much sooner?

Don't worry, I've got your back senpai
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>>153059737
Didn't Whis say he was going to split the timeline again by travelling into the future to alert Future Beerus?
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>>153059724
He won't.
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>>153058837

It was good until the ending which was mixed. I liked how it wasn't just a happy ending but Zeno ruined it. They should have either scrapped the whole cosmic horror Zamasu thing and extended the final battle. Or they should have drawn out the cosmic horror Zamasu part of the story. Have them retreat back to the past and mafuba zamasu somehow.

>HA

yes, nothing is new in the world of fiction, I am aware that Zamasu is not a new character.
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>>153059737
Yes, and I'm asking you, how does that make sense?

This is what happens.

>Beerus learns about Zamasu
>goes to his planet
>plans on destroying Zamasu

The timeline DIDN'T split before he destroyed Zamasu which means these events MUST HAVE HAPPENED in BOTH timelines, since they were one and the same prior to the split (which happens when Beerus kills Zamasu). Again, how the fuck does that make any sense? It doesn't, because you're changing time without actually changing time in any way.

>>153059710
Read the posts you're replying to first.
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>>153059793
Yes.
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>>153059692
Why not? That is what was stated in the manga.
Though it was more of a hypothesis the characters throw to explain what happened than someone who actually knows how the Potara works saying it. But it was the only explanation avaliable for decades.

I actually like this particular retcon from Super, it makes more sense the Potara doesn't provide a permanent fusion to mortals and that's why the Fusion separated than "lol Buu's magic farts"
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>>153059683
kids ruined youtube.
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>>153059819
>Read the posts you're replying to first.
I did, if you still think Time Machines are the cause of split timelines and not the Butterfly effect you're stupid.
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>>153059367
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>>153059819
You're missing a few steps there retard
>Beerus learns about Zamasu
>goes to u10 kai planet
>watches him kill Gowasu
>goes back in time, prevents it and kills Zamasu
>Zamasu is now dead in one timeline
>other timeline's Zamasu becomes Black
In the original timeline there was literally no Beerus to kill Zamasu because he went back
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>>153057988
>Why didn't Super Saiyans come much sooner?
Where the fuck do you think the Super Saiyan legend came from?
Also Freeza killed the Saiyans BECAUSE he was scared of another Super Saiyan coming about(and because Beerus told him to)
Seriously lame attempt to try and drag DB down to DBS level.
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>>153059900
It's a combination of both, I don't see what your point is because it still makes no sense.

If Beerus killing Zamasu is the cause of the split, then you're saying that Beerus learning about Zamasu and going to his planet to destroy him simultaneously happened and did not happen in the exact same timeline (since, again, the timeline was one and the same prior to the split).

This makes no sense. I don't see how this is hard to get.
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>>153059877
Be careful where you say this, DBZ advocates will have your head for saying Super made a good change.
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>>153059813
>It was good until the ending
Nah it wasn't.
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>>153059297
I can dig it, much better than the old opening.
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>>153059045
Because you need to break past you limit in order to attain any level of super saiyan. Also, you need to actually care about someone.
Saiyans don't train and most of them don't give a fuck.
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>>153059031
I should have said "it never made you hate the show before"

Surely there is some -other- reason why people dislike DBS. If it were just the weird story-related problems DB and DBZ would be hated as well.
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>>153059953
No what's happening right now is you're incorporating Toei's broken Time Causal Loop paradox into a real assessment of the timeline theory.
You have to completely omit any of that shit because it doesn't make sense. Stop using the anime's chain of events when discussing the manga's continuity.
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>>153059683
Dragon Ball has such a big casual fanbase in latin america that people can get away with this kind of bullshit.
Fuck until a few years ago I still knew people who vehemently said Dragon Ball AF existed and aired in Japan and the US. And they often convinced people of that.
The first time I heard about DBAF was in the late 90s from a magazine that was debunking the rumors, and yet 15 years later people were still falling for it, because they didn't know shit about the franchise.
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>>153060015
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>>153059956
It would be a good change if the fusion didn't run out before the hour was up.
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>>153059919
I already told you Whis doesn't create a seperate timeline with his technique.
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>>153059975

What was wrong with it?
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>>153059618
I've seen these posts, I just never read anything that seems completely cringe or autistic
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>>153058935
>didn't refute a damn thing
I accept your concession, sheep.
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>>153059082
or maybe just not the right time
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>>153060124
Calm down.
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>>153059684
>Garlick Jr
>>
where ya'll streaming this at? Youtube?
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>>153060124
If you think you can defend Toei's shitty writing by simply just calling Toriyama a moronic hack you're fucking delusional.
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>>153060133
Never let go
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>>153059937

You mean that legend that hadn't appeared for thousands of years? They suddenly for no reason is present in children for no reason? Why were no Saiyans in living memory super saiyans when by the end of Z it's literally a baby mode ability?

Seriously lame attempt at not being a retard.
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>>153060096
Pretty much everything except the OST.
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>>153060028
I'm not talking about the anime, how can you not get this?

Look, this is what we know happens (IN THE MANGA):

>Beerus learns of Zamasu
>Beerus goes to Zamasu's planet
>Beerus tries to destroy Zamasu

Since the last point is the point where the timeline splits, this is what happens next

>Timeline A: Beerus destroys Zamasu
>Timeline B: Zamasu lives

Now, how does this make sense? How does Zamasu survive his encounter? You're going to say "he never met Beerus". But how did he never meet Beerus if the timeline split when Beerus DESTROYED him.

Are you saying that Beerus meeting Zamasu happened and did not happen in the exact same timeline?

This is the issue. You're saying two different things happened in the same timeline (because, once again, the two timelines were the same before the split).
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>>153060082
Whis doesn't actually answer the question she asked. He just tells her not to worry about it
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>>153059780
>>153059877

1. What kind of magic is that?
2. Why would Buu have any kind of magic inside him that nullifies potara fusion?
3. If Buu did have some kind of magic power that allows him to nullify potara fusion then why didn't he use it on Vegito instead of having his ass kicked?
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>>153060194
>Shit argument
>Ad Hominem
I accept your concession
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>>153060203

Be more specific though, It had a competent villain who was actually a threat (unlike Buu), with actual motives beyond just being a dick (unlike Buu, Cell and Frieza).

Not saying the arc was better than those ones but I think Zamasu and Black were at least good villains.
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>>153060233
Here's the Viz translation. It's pretty conclusive.
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>>153060222
>How does Zamasu survive his encounter?
Beerus said killing a God would have effects on space-time. He hypothesized it would result in the Destruction of Zamasu from Trunks' timeline as well.

He was wrong: it resulted in the rewind where Zamasu kills Gowasu becoming a split-timeline
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>>153060015
can we take a moment to ask why mais eyes are different?
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>>153060261
The point is that it was explained, the original poster say "half the shit isn't explained" but this point is explained.
Case closed.

>3. If Buu did have some kind of magic power that allows him to nullify potara fusion then why didn't he use it on Vegito instead of having his ass kicked?
Think of it as some sort of digestive magical powers that only work inside his gut.
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>>153057988
>How the fuck does Perfect Cell even come back from his own explosion?

Cell's regeneration makes no fucking sense. He supposedly got it from Piccolo, but he survives a lot of shit that Piccolo certainly wouldn't
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>>153060169
>implying I'm the same anon
I was simply letting the one dumb fuck know that equating talent/skill with popularity is retarded and hilariously wrong.
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>>153060082
He doesn't even say he's incapable dumbass.

Anyway, Black's already a set part of time if they kill Zamasu in the past then no matter what method that's going to create a discrepancy in time.
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>>153060371
>but he survives a lot of shit that Piccolo certainly wouldn't
Frieza's DNA?
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>>153060376
>>implying I'm the same anon
Then I accept your concession.
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>>153060338
>He was wrong: it resulted in the rewind where Zamasu kills Gowasu becoming a split-timeline
Again, Whis doesn't create split timelines >>153060337

Just admit it makes no sense and Toriyama fucked up. It's hardly anything new.
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>>153060312

How is that a shit argument?

>Super Saiyans hyped up as legendary invincible transformation in Namek arc
>By the time Buu arc comes around Super Saiyans are baby level forms
>If Goten can go SSJ for no reason, why did no Saiyan in living memory do it either.

It's a retcon, and one way bigger than any in DBS. Yet you fanboys don't seem to care.
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>>153060179
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>>153060408
Even Frieza didn't survive being broken down to the cells.
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>>153059082
im a fag for a lot of things but i keep quiet about it
>gine
>a good/likable version of bra and pan
>bra and pan fused to bran
>gogeta
>vegetas brother
and so on
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>>153060222
My headcanon is that the time ring just takes some time to appear, so the timeline was (actually) created when Trunks traveled for first time in DBS and the ring appeared some time after that.
Anime timeline can't be fixed with this, though. Because there's a never explained timeline.
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>>153060371
Didn't he say something about his core being intact? Even though Goku vaporized his head once before?
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>>153054404
Xeno Trunks might be the dupe from the timeline Whis sent them to.
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>>153060321
>Be more specific though, It had a competent villain who was actually a threat (unlike Buu
>threat
>unlike Buu
Top kek
Yeah no, Buu didn't fail at killing all the Humans on Earth for at least a year and get thwarted by tear gas and flash bombs.
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>>153060416
>Again, Whis doesn't create split timelines >>153060337
It didn't: the space-time interference caused by Beerus killing a God caused it.
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>>153060465
>gogeta

You left me to fend for myself!
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>>153060371

But why does he come back perfect was my point?

>I stored the power away

and this is exactly what I'm talking about. Zfags would NEVER let that sort of shit fly in Super.
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>>153060411
>implying I give a fuck about your drivel
I accept your concession, moronic fuck.
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>>153057923
>Dat double Hakai
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>>153060525
Yes, which doesn't make sense for reasons I've already stated. Beerus learning about Zamasu and going to his planet must have happened in both timelines.
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>>153060455
Because he couldn't regenerate. It's the way the abilities mix that causes Cell's durability.
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>>153060567
>getting assmad over nothing
I fully accept your concession.
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>>153060261
The implication is that it has to do with how his body works, not some magic he was actively using.
The manga itself kinda acknowledges it's a lousy explanation, as the person saying that hypotesis, who I think was Goku but don't remember exactly, was not sure if that was the case.No one besides Old Kaioshin really knew how the Potara worked in the first place, Kaioshin and Kibito thought it was just jewelry.
Which is why this one Super retcon mostly works.

An issue a lot of people in this thread seem to forget is that Dragon Ball was mostly written on the fly by a guy who put continuity and logic bellow entertainment when creating the story.
You can overthink and dissect almost any piece of information Dragon Ball gives about anything in the exact same manner you are doing to this, and the result would be the same.
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>>153060443
Read the manga retard.
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>>153060476
My headcanon is that Gowasu is just a really shit Kaioshin and there are actually a lot more time rings in other boxes that he just never bothered to look inside.
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>>153060632
>Read the manga
Wasn't this stated in the anime also?
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>>153060515

He killed all the humans, after Goku let him live. Then he blew up Earth, after both Gohan and Vegito let him live.

Literally no villain in the rest of the show got let off the hook more than Buu. He survives so long due to plot armour, which is why he's shit.
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>>153060082
>>153060337
Yes we get it, Toyble is a hack that wrote himself into a corner by adding that tidbit.
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>>153060589
It's called a "Bootstrap Paradox" or "Causal Loop". It's a common theme in time-travel stories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causal_loop


Whis' time-rewind doesn't usually cause a split-timeline BUT! it made one because Beerus' Hakai causing alterations to the space-time.

It's not really that hard.
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Stream?
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>>153053777
I hope not.
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>>153060653
>Gowasu is just a really shit Kaioshin
Fuck off, Zamasu.
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You're not dealing with yhe average sayian anymore KAIBA
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>>153060716
>It's called a "Bootstrap Paradox" or "Causal Loop". It's a common theme in time-travel stories.
Now you're just admitting that the manga is doing the exact same thing as the anime.

Causal loops never make sense, that's the point.
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>>153060589
In one timeline Beerus left and didn't come back. In the other he popped up like he'd never left thanks to Whis, killed Zamasu and saved Gowasu
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>Reddit removed all the streams
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>>153060777
Why would Beerus leave if he was there to check if Zamasu killed Gowasu just so he could have a reason to murder Zamasu?
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>>153052841
Stream?
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>>153060612
>pretending to have the high ground so you can say you've won
I accept your concession again, Christ. Go ahead and tick off another "Internet arguments won" on the chalkboard hanging from you mom's basement wall after your brush the Cheeto crumbs from the dirty gray wifebeater draped over your enormous gut, you slag.
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>>153060664
>He killed all the humans, after Goku let him live.
>after Goku let him live.
Huh
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Which episode number was the baseball game again?
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>>153058866
>N Word
I want reddit to go pls
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>>153060826
>just so he could have a reason to murder Zamasu?
Yes, you can't just go killing gods in training or otherwise on an assumption.
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>>153060831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRnuKzoixR8

probably'll be laggy as shit though
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>>153060653
Nice headcanon.
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>>153060563
I think he says something about his cells retaining the memory of his perfect form, allowing him to regenerate back to that form after receiving the zenkai boost
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>>153060769
I haven't been precise: I was talking EXCLUSIVELY about the anime.

We don't yet know the details about the Future Zamasu in the manga, though I suspect it will be the same than in the anime.

>Causal loops never make sense, that's the point.

TIME TRAVEL doesn't make any sense.
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>>153060889
i love u anon
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Anon... pls...gib a stream...
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>>153058989
Swiggity swooty
Roshi coming for that cyborg booty
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>>153060883
Yes, but you're saying Beerus left in the timeline Zamasu killed Gowasu. Why would Beerus leave if he saw Zamasu killing Gowasu in front of him?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjNOXo00otU
press F to pay respects
press S to spit on grave
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>>153060889
>giving streams to reddit so they can delete
fool
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>>153060222
>Now, how does this make sense?
It doesn't make that much sense but they simply waived it off by stating that when a significant altercation event takes place a new timeline appears.
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>>153060940
F

It really grew on me over time
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>>153060940
F
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>>153060907
>TIME TRAVEL doesn't make any sense.
Time travel makes sense in the original series. There are a few plot holes, but the general concept makes sense. Parallel worlds being created by going back in time with a time machine, which are independent from one another, is normally a pretty safe way of doing time travel.

Adding causal loops into time travel just makes any time travel story almost automatically shit.
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>>153060940
F

I really digged that tune
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What're the odds we'll get a stream that isn't laggy as shit tonight
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>>153060947
is reddit here?

What do they have against fun?
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>>153053500

This shit reminds me when Darkseid got mugged and knocked unconscious by some thugs.
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>>153060653
>Gowasu being a shit Kaioshin
>Headcanon

I thought the whole point of Black arc was showing how much of a shit kaioshin Gowasu is
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>>153060940
F
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>>153060947
yes, because nobody can type that in youtube
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>>153060940
SSSSSSSSS
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>>153060929
Beerus went there to investigate and left. They watched Gowasu get killed from off-planet. We saw that happen.
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>>153058173
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>>153060926
They aren't gonna share the stream here Here,better go and find it yoursel
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>>153060940
F
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>>153060999
>Time travel makes sense in the original series.
It really didn't. Cell being a thing tears a hole in how it worked.
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>>153060926
I want Kaio of Time to be canon for the sole purpose of being cucked by Mai
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>>153053183
goku is so alpha he never kisses and bangs
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>>153060867

Goku could have killed Black in their first fight if he went all out sure. But Goku didn't "let" him live like he did with Buu. Goku had no idea how powerful Black was so going Blue right away and using up power could have been a mistake. Black was lucky that he was pulled out before Goku could properly gauge his power.

But in the Buu arc Goku says he specifically let Buu live during their first fight. There was nothing stopping Goku from killing him if he wanted. He knew he could and there was no drawback to doing so.
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10minutes Right??
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>>153060940
F and S.
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>>153061062
not the same Gohan, but that's still weak.
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>>153061083
Cell's existence has plot holes surrounding it but, like I said, the general concept makes sense.
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>>153060940
IIIIITSUKA TOGIRETAAAAA
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Who's ready for the first "appearance" of Bulla since 1996?!
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>>153060632
Man, Nappa probably would've had an easier time becoming a Z fighter than Vegeta.

He was clearly looking to get his dick wet in some Earthling pussy
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>>153059430
Black is gay, but Goku fucked her because Goku doesn't kiss or love bitches.
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>>153060999
>>Time travel makes sense in the original series
No, it doesn't.
Time-travel NEVER makes sense, unless you accept it does.

If you accept it does, then there is no reason to refute that a God-class being could manipulate time without creating a split time-line but causing space-time disturbance.
And then another God-class being causing even MORE of a disturbance generating a split time-line based on the events rewinded.
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>>153061096
Still, i don't get why Black was stronger than SSJ2 Trunks and even with SSJ2 Goku when in base form?
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>>153060940
I loved that OP, it was my favorite of the series
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Alright, who do you have to hold hands with around here to get a link?
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>>153061142
>the general concept makes sense.
Again, it didn't.
If any and all uses of the time machine or changes to the timeline makes a new timeline we should have anything between 5 to 7 timelines during that time.

We only had four.
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>>153058299
He kills Sorbet. Janemba forces Vegeta to throw aside his pride to do the fusion dance
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There's a new thread??
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>>153061096
>Goku could have killed Black in their first fight if he went all out sure. But Goku didn't "let" him live like he did with Buu.
>reaching this hard
Jesus
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>>153060940
s for >mexican
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Is this going to start in 10 or 40 minutes? I never remember if the order is Precure-One Piece-DBS or Precure-DBS-One Piece
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RIDEH ON. SKY HI HOO!
Every fucking week.
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>>153061241
>If any and all uses of the time machine or changes to the timeline makes a new timeline we should have anything between 5 to 7 timelines during that time.
How do we know we didn't? The manga never specified how many there were, only the guidebooks and Super did.
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>>153061264
>Precure-DBS-One Piece
This one.
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Someone make a new thread
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>>153061246
Vegeta deflecting Frieza's attack to Sorbet was their only interaction.
Shit, Pui Pui or Cui was more important to Vegeta than Sobet was.
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>>153061259
shit, didn't even notice
It was the first one that came up
fuckin' spics
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>>153061291
Thanks! I hope Tokunmecha streams it
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>>153061255

But it's not even reaching? It's been stated before that just going Blue uses a lot of power.

Why do you think neither Goku or Vegeta spammed Blue during the tournament? They only use it if they know they'll need it and Goku didn't know he'd need it against Black.
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>>153061280
>only the guidebooks and Super did.
You do realise that's conformation of only four right.
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>>153061371
Only ready for the ningens
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>>153061371
please let the opening be good
I like the song already
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>>153061381
No, because those are seperate products. I said time travel in the original series makes sense, we don't know how many timelines there were from the information given in the manga.
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>>153061371
Where is Zamasu
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>>153061371
Kaioshin back to being smug I see
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New thread

>>153061427
>>153061427
>>153061427
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>>153060531
>Goku and Vegeta are not wearing their Whis training outfits, implying they may fuse again later on
>""""Brolly"""" was made canon
Don't worry, Gogeta will appear. Actually, Gogeta is the more reliable fusion since the potara nerf, and Final Kamehameha shortens the fusion time by a lot.
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>>153058969
I like that it was a proper gi in design.
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>>153061128
The images of that calendar have characters relevant from every iteration of the central character. The future, movies GT, Super, anything goes in those.
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>>153061436
Inside the robot GoD.
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>>153061428
>No, because those are seperate products
Separate products that were based on information taken from both the manga and Toriyama.
It never made sense.
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>>153061241
not exactly: any use of the machine that cause a change in timeline generates a new timeline.

Once the timeline are split, they become independent and parallel, and new travels from the two timelines don't generate new splits because it's not the past anymore.

Only Present->direct past travels cause split timelines.
Present->alternate past doesn't cause split timelines
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>>153061008
Ha DCucks eternally btfo!
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>>153061199
Black having the time ring in the future probably had something to do with it. He did say the ring protected him from temporal fuckery. I wouldn't be surprised if it forced a split to justify his continued existence
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>>153061454
>Gogeta is the more reliable fusion since the potara nerf
Eh, not really.
It's already been established that Metamoran(?) fusion begins to fail at around SSJ3 and with 30 minutes on the clock in God form that would make the fusion pointless.
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>>153061371
Yes.
>>153061416
The preview is already better than the entirety of the first one.
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GOD TIER OP
>>
the opening was really nice, though they spent too much time showing the bald guy
I mean, I know it's the clown's ace and probably the strongest fighter in the tournament, but still..
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pretty good op
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>>153061573
It was what I expected as explanation from the anime: Present Zamasu is Hakai'd and it shoul have Hakai'd Future Zamasu and Future Black, but because they had the Time Rings, they were safe.
I also expected them being killed, or at least vastly weakened by removing\destroying the Ring
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> Goku pulling a Raditz

Truly brothers.
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>Husbando 17 in the opening
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>>153061917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC3sUz-OcpQ
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GODDAMMIT CHICHI
RIP GOTEN AGAIN
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>>153061558
>any use of the machine that cause a change in timeline generates a new timeline.
Okay so there's when Trunks went back the first time. That's 2 timelines.
Then the second time because he was supposed to be killed by Cell. So that's 3.
Then when Cell revealed himself in the past causing the Cell games. 4
And when infant Cell was killed. 5
Possibly 16's awakening. So a potential 6.

These were all changes caused by the use of a time machine.
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10/10!!!
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>>153062055
>And when infant Cell was killed. 5
no: that was Trunks' FUTURE, not PAST.
Only travelling to PAST causes changes, as explained by Gowasu about why the Time Rings were used only to travel to the Future.
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>>153060416
he reversed the timeline, it makes sense
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>>153062932
Anon they destroyed infant Cell in the past based on what Cell said.
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