Why does /a/ hate Naruto but praises shit like Jojo and DBZ?

>>153040072
JoJo and DBZ are the shows that attract the most crossboarders. They aren't liked by /a/.

>>153040072
Naruto is shit and JoJo isn't shit

Not everyone likes DBZ in /a/. Also, Jojo is shit and should be moved to >>>/v/

DBZ is the originator for westerners.

Jojo is on another level from all of them, it perfectly mixes battle shounen into pretty much any genre it attempts and does it with style.

One of the biggest things that separates Jojo from other battle shounen is the permanence of death, if Goku dies they'll just resurrect him. when Iggy , a side character with few chapters dedicated to him and little character development dies it hurts more because he'll never come back.

The journey didn't end with a wish it and it came with a price.

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>>153040072
Can't say anything for DBZ, but jojo has some bizarreness to it, that pushes it away from most shonens. It's the pure dumb fun kind of anime, but it's actually creative with it's retardation and delivery. It also has some decent characters and good action in some parts. Sometimes it's even really good with it's writing (p7) or feel (p2). It's the kind of anime/manga you watch/read if you just want to have a good time. You know how it's gonna go every time you turn the episode on, but that's the exact thing you want. It's like playing sports games with your bros together on console with beer and snacks.

>>153040866
>>153040595
You know, I just realized; is the reason why jojo became cancerous (as a fanbase, not the manga) is because the anime was released at the wrong time?

>>153040072
Because an asspull in JoJo is fucking art, asspulls in Naruto give Kakashi a fucking Susanoo

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DBZ and Jojo are classics. They are immune to a lot of the criticisms of genre tropes since they are the ones that invented/popularized them.

Also a big reason /a/ hates Naturo is because it had a lot of potential and actually pretty interesting lore/world-building. Well I'd like to say that but the real reason /a/ dislikes Naruto is because its popular.

Still despite all this, you're hard-pressed to find someone on /a/ who doesn't have a soft spot for it at least through the chunin arc (or through the Zabuza arc imo).

Also the anime has some of the great fight scenes and animation. That isn't to say it doesn't have a lot of terrible ones but fights like Lee vs Gaara and Kakashi vs Obito were pretty great.

>>153040072
Actually /a/ likes all of them.

>>153040072
Current /a/ which is mostly made up of people who were younger than 5 in 2000 if they were born at all likes all of those series.

>>153040072
Jojo has fancy ass over the top clothing and pretty colours, while in Naruto everyone wears gross-ass fucking sweaters that make my lower molars want to shatter against my upper ones, and everyone wears gross-fucking-ass high sandals that make me wanna throw up with my mout closed so that I can filter the vomit with my own teeth.
Also, it's a fucking gringefest.

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>>153040072
Jojo is ugly forced shit. I tired to sit through a few episodes but found I would need to cave my skull in and retard myself in order to unironically enjoy it.

>>153040595
>They aren't liked by me
FTFY

>>153040072
DBZ is shit and not praised at all. Only sub 100 IQ spics like it.
JoJo used to be loved but now lot of people hate it because of animeonlyfags

Naruto hate is a relic of the past when it was the most popular in the West and contained the worst weeaboo trash unwanted by /a/. Nowadays all three are fairly equal in being obnoxious trash in regard to /a/, but the Jojofag is more likely to not be in a shounenfaggot bubble than the others. DBZ is a nostalgia thing. Narutards will be Narutards.

>>153040072
because Kishimoto is a hypocrite. Neji literally called it in his first fight with Naruto.

Naruto season 1 : i'm constantly training but for some reason can't do shit. man i try so hard, I even train while I eat. then J-man removes the super hard seal on his stomach and he finally can walk on fucking water.

Naruto Shipuuden : the guy that has more tails wins, also the more you are from the past the more powerful you are.

>>153040072
I thought it was only shippudden people shat on.

Because Jojo and DBZ are actually good

>>153041877
But they're not

>>153040072
Because Naruto is a shonen that never took chances. In Naruto you'll find all the usual shonen cliches.

Araki on the other hand, after part 1 and 2 he tried to differentiate Jojo from all the other shonens. Jojo's structure, art and storytelling are proofs of that.

>>153040992
Joseph (((Died)))

>>153041742
So true, I remember that part where Neji at the tournament was saying how his father died for the main family and how if you're a prodigy no effort will close the gap and Naruto was like I'm gonna prove you wrong.

Then on part 2 we learn Naruto comes from a the cousins of one of the big 2 families and his father was a genius, plus he's thwe reincarnation of the sage's son destined for greatness plus he has the strongest tailed beast on him and Neji dies to save him and Hinata, going down the same way his father went, for the main family and proving that prodigies>>>>>> non prodigies.

Dbz and narushit has never been /a/ you newfags

>>153040072
DB is an OG and JoJo is fresh for a lot of people. Naruto apparently had to take the fall for crossboarder fears. Worked so well that it took the finale for /a/ to 'accept' it again.

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>>153040072

>Hates dbz
You are one of those facebook normie "otaku" who thinks Dragonball is shit because of muh complex plot, who thinks naruto is edgy and cool because some facebook "otaku" anime fanpage told you so.

Dragonball is fun, that's it. It's simple, with loveable characters, god tier fights, filled with weirdness and good amount of character development.

What's the difference between Dragonball and naruto?

Both are stupid 15 yr old shonen but dragonball knows that it is stupid and Naruto acts like it's smart and something else.

>>153041330

Watch the 1993 stardust crusader ova. You don't even have to watch/read part 1 and 2, well...you should atleast read part 2 and then watch the 90's ova. You will become a fan and you won't even notice all the "gayness" after that.

>>153041330
Each season is really it's own thing to large extent. I didnt really like season 1 either, and not 2 that much either, but 3 and especially 4 I thought were really good. I loved 4 actually.

>>153040992
>One of the biggest things that separates Jojo from other battle shounen is the permanence of death

remember when Abdul "died"

>>153046786
>but dragonball knows that it is stupid
what does that even mean?

>>153040072
no one likes dbz or naruto on here. that shit used to be saged and dub spammed when the mods weren't complete faggots. hence why the board has turned into toxic waste site.

>>153046786
>"I am a still in High School!" the post

>>153040072
Naruto completely lost sight of every one of its original themes and the final arc was just constant transformations and secret reveals for like 2 years and then it was over.

>>153046786
Neither Naruto or DBZ are stupid or smart or make attempts to be either.

>>153040072
Because Naruto is trash
I still talk about Naruto like three times a week in real life, because it's dogshit and lost everything it had going for it

>>153047182
He's still dead though.

>>153046786
>god tier "fights"
>posts the only really, really good fight in a manga full of passable fights.

>>153040072
>naruto spouts about working hard and shit to get things done
>he's the son of the 4th hokage and has an infinite amount of chakra thanks to a special monster inside him
>meanwhile, the actual character that works hard always loses his fights

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>>153047291

Nice try idiot. That's not even an argument.
>>153047589

>Only passable

Overall quality of battle decreased after cell arc. But don't forget

Goku vs frieza
Goku and piccolo vs raditz (can't even compare this with others)
Goku vs majin jr (one of the best battles in history of animation )
All the martial art tournament fights from early Dragonball.

You have no chance boi.

Also, go and checkout db manga which is 100 times better than the filler filled anime.

>>153047614

>meanwhile, the actual character that works hard always loses his fights

Idiocy of Naruto. Don't be so brutal on narutards. They below 15 and it looks like child abuse.

>>153047614
The entire first half of the series is about how hard work can overcome natural talent.

The entire second half of the series is about how you can't overcome destiny and that some people are just better than others.

>>153048071
>Nice try idiot. That's not even an argument.

what argument, you say Naruto tries to act smart and Dragon Ball accepts that it's dumb.
They are both manga simply written they way they are because the author's want to entertain readers in different ways.
Naruto focuses more on drama and creates many themes involving the typically used anti-war message.
Dragon Ball started as a comedy influenced by Journey to the West and later Toriyama wanted to add more dramatic elements as the story went by like giving a Goku a family to protect from alien invaders.

When you say "this series tries to be (insert adjective here)" it just means you are full of shit.

Neither are trying to be anything more than what they are. If you feel that they are, that's only you're bias perceiving something that isn't actually there.

"At least Dragon Ball knows it is stupid" No, it fucking doesn't. It's not a gag manga anymore. This would only apply for bottom of the barrel gag manga like Bobobo.

Holy shit people like you are the worst when it comes to criticizing something.

>>153048071
>Goku vs majin jr
What?

>checkout db manga which is 100 times better than the filler filled anime.
If you don't like the filler then watch Kai

I liked the story. Just the war arc was a big mess, the pain arc was fucking solid

Still i like Naruto in general. War arc had some good moments and final fight (anime) was really good.

>>153048279
Naruto subverts its own message halfway through the story

Truly Kishi is the master

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>>153040722
>JoJo isn't shit

>>153049562
>What

I meant Ma Junior but thank autocorrect for that.

>Kai
I love db and dbz anime, but some newfags always bitch about anime being dragged and filled with filler, so I suggested manga.

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>>153040072
All three get shitted on pretty evenly for having the most cancerous fan bases.

>>153040072

Because JoJo had Steel Ball Run.

>>153040072
As a Dragon/Jojo fag, i h8 both Naruto and One Piece, though im not invading their threads proclaming that as if my opinion was the absolute true.

>>153050058
>battle shonen
>anime
Pick one
Manga is always the way to go, both the DB and the Jojo anime are shit

>>153041091
Jojo became cancerous because not only does it appeal to the "manime" normalfag crowd that likes Naruto and SnK but also the new "ironic animeme" crowd of 15 year old Ledditers who call every female anime character a waifu and don't actually watch anime.

>>153040072
>praises shit like Jojo and DBZ
That's /v/, not /a/

I give Dragon Ball shit for being a bad influence on shounen for generations to come.

How many retarded protagonists have been modeled after Goku?
How many strategic and diverse battle systems have fallen to power levels and generic energy blasts?
How many plots, settings, and characters have been trivialized by said power levels?
How many times have aliens hijacked the series?

You know what's the root of Naruto being so shitty? It's the prime DBZ spawn.

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>>153055339
>prime DBZ spawn
>Naruto

>>153040072
/a/ is tsudere as fuck whe it comes to Naruto. They even say that Naruto vs Pain of the anime is one the best anime fights of all time because of muh sakuga and frames.

>>153048071
why do black people have such shit taste?

>>153040072
DBZ is pure nostalgia.
Jojo is fun

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>>153040072
When, where and why did the Jojo fanbase go so wrong?

>>153058000
Blame the anime.

>>153040072
DBZ has all the manchildren fanbase on /a/ meanwhile Jojo has all the gay one.

DBZ since it is an inspiration for many following anime plus childhood memories.Same with Naruto,would be to me. I can't pronounce an opinion about Naruto since I do not watch it anymore but Jojo actually does deserve its attention.It has its ups and downs but overall the plot twists and depicting of powers and the legacy of each generation has an impact upon the viewer

>>153040072
>Comparing DBZ with Jojo

>>153041611
>DBZ is shit and not praised at all. Only sub 100 IQ spics like it.

it's literally a classic

>>153041611
This

The difference between Dbz And Jojo is that the creater of JoJo tries new things and does eventually improve as a Writer past the first 3 parts little by little

>>153055339
Surely the retarded Jump protagonist was popularized by Kinnikuman?

>>153058793
Dragonball is a classic. DBZ is overrated.

>>153040072
Isn't Dbz popular because it's easy for people to get into and is the only anime where you won't get called a weeb for watching

>>153059498
You don't get made fun of for liking anime anymore unless its something that has lolis. Naruto was all over fucking facebook when it ended. One Punch Man has also attracted a lot of riajuu.

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>>153040072
Simple, Naruto tries too hard to be taken seriously, while JoJo does not. Still, even at it's best, JoJo is a 7/10, and DBZ is not even worth mentioning, since the introduction of power levels effectively killed Dragon Ball.

You should probably read other shounen manga for reference, or possibly expand your taste. Don't embarrass yourself further by even implying that Naruto is any better than a steaming pile of manure.

>>153046786
>Dragonball
>loveable characters
>god tier fights
>good amount of character development

Pick one and only one

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If you don't read the fucking manga you should kys.

I'm glad Kinnikuman isn't mainstream like JoJo.

>>153059694
if you average out all the parts it's a 7-8 mostly due to the latter parts in the manga

>>153040072
Naruto is the most unlikeable main character to ever exist.

>>153060342
no, the writing is shit even in the first arc.

>>153060437
everyone agrees on that you retard

>>153047182
Yeah and then remember when he died for fucking good in the most sudden death in the series, after you thought he was invincible since he already "died" once and then half the cast died?

>>153060437
Did you not read the post the latter parts are objectively better, unlike alot of manga JoJo improves in writting after awile post part 4

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I hate anime and weaboos yet I like JoJo a lot, only anime I've watched in like a decade.

Naruto takes it self way too seriously.

>>153040072
I think it's mostly the original Dragonball that's treated as untouchable, not DBZ.

>>153058000
Obvs since the anime happened

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>>153040072
is all shit.

Shippuden in a nutshell

> Naruto looking for his boyfriend Sasuke

> Super edgy Akatsuki faggots get btfo after they collect the tailed beasts

> Tailed beasts get too much focus

> Naruto does nothing and gets a power up each arc

> Asspulls after asspulls of random shit like Kakashi getting a Susanoo

> Itachi being a massive retard and trying to make sense of turning Sasuke into an edgelord

> Sakura still being useless and riding edgelord dick after 700+ chapters

> Kishimoto himself saying he made Madara too strong for Naruto & Sasuke to beat. Literally what the fuck? How do you make a villain the MC can't win against kek?

> Sasuke wanting to be Hokage and thinking people will let it happen after he's been an edgy criminal since the end of Part 1

Shippuden should have never happened desu, it really killed the story. Part 1 was good but even then it fell to shit because of Sasuke being edgy after the Chunin exam. Jojo is superior in every shape and form, no asspulls, actually good villains, unique as shit powers, amazing art, likable characters, good story, REAL character development.

>>153040072
Naruto is decent, OG Dragonball was the shit, DBZ is good because of nostalgia and OP powercreep, Jojo is garbage.

None of those shows were particularity praised a few years ago, especially naruto. The prevalence of cross boarders started the trend of daily DBZ threads and also Jojo, so it would only appear that it's been popular on /a/. Also, Jojo didn't have a proper show until 2012, before that it was only the manga and an OVA, which prevented the shitty daily threads you see now.

>>153040072
Less awful melodrama bullshit I assume

>>153061851
>Asspulls
In terms of asspulls bul!shit in which is more shit
Parts 1-4 Naruto shippuden Parts 5-7
>Villains
Kira and JoJo villains past part 5 take the cake
> Powers
Naruto: I have a little bit of chakra I should save it
Shipudden: chakra beam and bomb fuck hand signs
Jojo: tactics and wit wins 80% of the time 20% asspull
>Art
JoJo part 4-8 > Naruto > JoJo parts 1-3
> Characters
Parts 4-8 > naruto>Parts 1-3
>Story
Same

>>153063252
>the bottom two opinions

Yuck

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I just got back into Naruto pretty heavy. Too bad the only people that want to talk about the show are those black dudes that are half nerd half ghetto that play Super Smash Bros and SF5.

You guys need to lighten up!

>>153063451
how far are you in the anime?

>>153061935
switch naruto and jojo

>>153063451
>half nerd half ghetto
America is fascinating.

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>>153054510
this

fuck animefags

>>153040072
>Naruto with Araki Style
wtf i love Naruto now

>>153054510
>>153064430
>caring this much what other people like instead of focusing on what you like for your own reasons

Such levels of beta autistic cuckoldry shouldn't be possible.

>>153064509
This.

>This anime is BAD because people I don't like enjoy it!
or
>The people that like this anime are NORMIES because I personally don't like the anime!

That's all they say on repeat. They don't think for themselves. Sometimes they fling shit with both of those opinions simultaneously, not realizing how circular and retarded that is.

>>153064509
Sounds like you, right fag?

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>>153063613
Oh hey sorry anon. To keep it blunt, I'm basically caught up.

I was an avid Naruto manga reader, and I watched the anime until about 2006 or 2007ish. I ran home from school everyday to download the fansubs on bittorrent. When I read the manga, I fell in love with Kishimoto's art. I understand his work gets a lot of criticism, but to me, it was wonderful. I still think he has one of the strongest "draftsmanship" abilities of the mangaka, and pay attention that I said draftsmanship. I loved how he drew clouds and dogs, his ink work was wonderful and I loved his consistency, especially his ability to portray families and the same people as babies/children/teens/adults/elders.

After a while, I noticed I would fall asleep within 7minutes of a Naruto episode, not realizing I had been watching filler (I was young and unfamiliar with what filler was.) I realized I had a deep issue with this filler and kind of stopped watching Naruto. I didn't have any other anime to watch so I kind of moved on from anime altogether.

I picked back up with anime around 2013ish, now I watch the shit you guys do pretty much. The past two weeks I've been binging on Naruto after checking out the Boruto manga, and then movie, And I can't believe how much I missed out on. I even like a lot of the filler and OVA that were released. And is it weird for me to say that one of my favorite characters is Danzo. I subscribed to Shounen Jump again because I want to keep up with Boruto, it's really promising and I like Ikemoto's art. Not being so heavily invested in Naruto for all this time, gives me a fresh outlook for this new series.

>>153064661
i dont think
>anime is bad
or
>anime is for normies

but i think that the fanbase went downhill since part 2 anime

Jojo has a fun sense of strangeness that makes it feel unique in a genre that often relies on cliche.

I like JoJo.
I do not like JoJofags.

>>153060235
>kys.
Please fuck off and stay off.

>>153040072
all of those suck

JoJo>dog shit>DB>killing babies>Naruto

>>153060235
>kys
Some things should trigger an automatic permaban

>>153067452
Are you fitting in yet, newfriend? Did you tell your friends about your secret new club?

>>153067499
censorship is bad anon

Because of its fanbase. Naruto is a magnet of the worst kind of autist, fat, smelly and annoying "otakus".

>>153043799
This. DB too was more creative/crazy and while all the Big 3 and so many others took inspiration, OP came out on top and is the one closest to capturing the spirit.

i have nothing against mainstream anime except for Re:Zero.
/a/ is full elitist weebs who feel threatened if their hobbies get invaded by people they don't like.

>>153040072

I hate what Naruto became.
I hate Jojo fans, they are a fucking cancer. I enjoy the series though.
DBZ fans are mostly retarded autist so I can't ever take them too seriously.

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DBZ>Naruto/Jojo>wannabe shit like Fairy Tail or MHA

I'm being fair to jojo here, DBZ is a classic and a guideline for any shonen, but with jojo it seems like it tries way too hard to stand out from other shonens. like, part 1 was a straight shonen attempt that failed to impress while part 2 was essentially attention whoring: the manga, or are you gonna tell me that Joseph doesn't actually do whatever it takes to get a reaction out of the reader? finally part 3 came to the original format with a group of dudes on a quest, you get to know and care for them so it feels more shocking when Kakyoin and Avdol die rather than when Caesar got rekt because the only reason for him ot be there was to give Joseph a wall to climb and his death just serves as a way to give Joseph some depth.

Naruto in many ways is better than Jojo because it doesn't hype up the protagonist to be a badass risk taker who's 2cool4you.
in the best arc of the series, the chunni exam arc all the characters get some development and set ups for future storylines, also you get to know more about the other genin who graduated with Naruto and some of them end being being more interesting than the main team 7, everybody changes, Naruto proves that's he's not a dumbass troublemaker, Sakura get serious about her role as a ninja and Sasuke is set up for his fall from grace with the cursed seal, in preparation for the second part of the exam, Naruto learns his most important lesson, turning his crutch (the demon fox) into an advantage, when he learns to tap into the demon fox's power he reaches his highest point, all that's left is to discover what can he do with his newfound power.

Jojo is nothing like that, it places importance on little moments and getting the attention of the reader, the characters and story suffer the most because of this.

Jojo uses characters as tools to get the plot moving, Naruto uses the plot to enrich the characters.

Jojo is the /v/ of anime

>>153069256
You should read ahead, the first three parts were Araki testing things out.

>>153069256
>Impliying shonen = good

To me Jojo seems fine. The fans act super homosexual like tumblrinas, is the main problem. It's like weeb Steven Universe.

>>153040072
I hate DBZ too. One of the most overrated anime of all time and is the textbook definition of nostalgia goggles. Nobody likes it except sub-100 IQ kids and manchildren wanting to relive their childhood over and over again.

>>153069428
>literally saying that parts 1 to 3 were prequels to part 4
you can't be serious about this, part 4 is like the GT or The Force Awakens of Jojo, continuing a story that's already finished.

My own opinion of part 4 and ongoing is that Araki wanted to drop the Joestars for the Higashikatas because they weren't popular due to their western names and themes (johnathan, new york, etc) all because of how xenophobic japs are. this would explain why josuke came back in part 8, even if it is an alternate universe there was no reason for him to come back.

>>153070050
he already had Jotaro at that point who is as jap as josuke

Jojo is good because it's fights are about outsmarting your opponent than constantly getting stronger or pulling new attacks out of your ass.

>All these people ITT defending JoJo
>>/out/

>>153069428
>the first three parts were Araki testing things out.
Why do people use this as an excuse for it being shit?

>>153040072
/a/ has garbage taste in anime. News at 11

>>153070212
Jotaro being a jap doesn't affect his arc, unlike part 4. the entire thing takes place on a modern suburban jap town and the main character is a jap school boy. Jotaro walks to egypt to fight a super vampire and save the world while Josuketries to find an autistic serial killer in his free time.

>>153069256
>Naruto in many ways is better than Jojo because it doesn't hype up the protagonist to be a badass risk taker who's 2cool4you.
The protag of part 6 is introduced mastrbting
The protag of 7 is a praplegic with daddy issues
In Part 4 one of the main charcters goes from being a weak manlet to a strong Determined Manlet
In part 6 Jotaro's stoicness is turned to a plot point when it affects his relationship with his daughter

>>153071095
I wouldn't even reply. Anyone who enjoys DBZ past the age of 15 has a mental problem

>>153071095
Naruto and Goku are 2 kids who learned how to be strong.
Josuke and Jotaro were introduced with their powers.Jotaro is an exception just for plot convenience

>Jojo starts getting popular
>/a/ starts hating it
Like clockwork

>>153071278
They're also the 3rd and 4th protagonist in a line of protagonists.

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>>153069256
>DBZ after the Frieza arc was a mistake
>Shippuden was a mistake
>Jojo only has 2 good parts
>One Piece after CP9 was a mistake
>Fairy Tail existing was a mistake
>Bleach after Soul Society was a mistake
>Shingeki no Kyojin political arc snorefest was a mistake

Prove me wrong. Has there ever been a single shonen that is an actually good series and is consistent in quality all the way through? FMA doesn't count

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Because DB and DBZ and Even Super are all classics
You can't hate any part of Dragonball because it's basically the epitome of what Shounen is

It's a fun adventure

And JoJo is amazing by itself because it has great writing, the fights are interesting and actions matter and people actually die

And it moves and changes quickly so you never get charcter fatigue

Then we have Naruto

Every fight with naruto is literally
>lol mah crazy goofey guy ninja pulls something out of his ass
And every fight with Sauske is literally
>Teleports behind you
>nuthin personal kid
But strangely enough every fight which dosen't have these two characters are pretty interesting

And then shippuden happens and every episode becomes utter garbage and every fight is resolved with friendship

I would watch Bleach's entire series 5 times over then ever watch Naruto again

There isn't a single episode of Naruto that ever makes you feel satisfied

It's always
>oh...Ok

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>>153071293
>MUH JOJO IS THE BEST ANIME HAHAHHA
>LE DUWANG GAY PRIEST IS HERE XDD

The old fanbase was relatively self contained and doesn't obnoxiously force their series into everyone's throats. Also, its not getting popular its already extremely popular, /mlp/ and /co/ literally have Jojo 24/7 generals. It's not surprising in the least that /a/ is starting to hate it.

>>153071418
Hunter X Hunter

Yu Yu hakusho

>>153071418
>/mlp/ and /co/ literally have Jojo 24/7 generals.
It is the most cringeworthy shit

>>153071593
>Hunter X Hunter

Chimera Ant arc and also the great hiatus arc was a mistake.

>>153071671
No
Chimera is completely fine

You're letting other people's opinons cloud your vision
Seriously watch the Chimera arc again,
It's escalation and conclusions are some of the greatest pieces of content ever made

>>153071418
Those two parts are either 2 and 7 or 7 and 8 right?
Isn't kinda better on Jojo' s part since the last 2, 7 and 8 are recent and not at the begging of the run.

>>153071418
a lot of these are true but also just opinions, I liked soul society and arrancar arcs but some don't like the latter.

true jojo ended with part 3 becuase it felt like a real ending, DIO is fucking dead and nothing will bring him back, stands should also disappear since DIO's presense is what brought forth these things right? well all that goes to the shitter with the introduction of the bow and arrow in part 4, that is a literal plot device to justify more plotlines with stands, since they were fucking cool.

The Naruto timeskip had to happen because the sasuke retrieaval arc wasn't a real ending unlike stardust crusaders. It's obvious that the filler of Naruto killed the hype and eventually people lost interest, but now we're talking about the anime and not the manga.

>tfw unironically enjoyed Naruto
>tfw One Piece is awful
>tfw JoJo is overrated
>tfw DBZ's only appeal is nostalgia

>>153071593
>Hunter X Hunter

I cannot force myself through it to see the good parts.
My friends hype it up on the constant, but I just don't understand at all

>>153071843
You're having these opinons because you're 12 anon

>>153071879
>watching something for the good parts

Well the obvious diagnosis is that you're a pleb fuck who needs to be shot and killed on the street like the sheep that you are

I bet you own a mac and tell your friends that it doesn't get viruses

>>153071883
>implying there are some people who actully watch mongolian cartoons targeted towards literal children, are over 12 years old

>>153071418
Grand Line > New World > East Blue

>>153071949
There's also the fact that every-time I ask this question I attract horrendous shota-lord fanboys.
I couldn't make it past the third arc, when does it get good?
does it ever stop being a generic shounen turd for babies and fujos

>>153071962
>I only watch adult shows

If you think GoT is an adult show and you're somehow better then everyone else because you watch it you need to seriously re-consider your choices in life

>>153071491
>it has great writing

>>153071995
No anon, people tell you this because they know you have the IQ of a actual retard
Do you read a book to get to the good parts?
Have you ever read a book anon?
Do you know what books are?
Can you even read?

>>153040072
They're all fucking garbage. However, for some reason jojobronies and dragonbronies ended up being even WORSE than narutards. While narutards are now old enough to become aware of how naruto is shit, the jojo and dragonball fanbases are still comprised of the same type of underage faggots naruto spam was supposed to keep out. So they just circlejerk in their containment generals while everyone else avoids them.

>>153072007
>the only fictional pieces in the world are children's battle manga and GoT

>>153071418
The Frieza arc itself was a mistake. At least the Cell arc had a great ending, but of course Toei weren't done milking the cash cow yet.

Bleach has always been mediocre at best since the very first chapter, and just a ripoff of far better manga.

>>153071491
I can and I will. I agree with you on Naruto but DBZ is no better.

Every fight is literally:
>oh the big bad is here and Goku isn't
>let's spend 5-10 episodes getting our asses kicked doing absolutely nothing to advance what little plot there is while waiting for Goku to arrive and save the day
>oh no Krillin died for the 5th time and it's so sad that we'll have to wish him and everyone else who died back again with the dragon balls
And Goku finally gets there:
>Muhahaha I am the big bad I am the strongest
>I am the good guy so let's have a battle full of the same punches, kicks and generic energy blasts recycled over and over again
>oh no I am losing *grunts and screams for 5 eps* I am stronger than you now
>I don't think so *grunts and screams for 10 eps* I am more stronger than you now
>oh yeah? *grunts and screams for 20 eps* I am even more stronger than you now

There was a time when Dragon Ball fights actually meant something and used actual strategy and martial arts techniques. Of course that was discarded in favor of becoming a super saiyan powerwankfest.

>>153072089
Alright big buy what do you watch?
Do you watch avengers and call yourself a big boy?

>there are people here who actually think that jojo is actually good
You fags need to be gassed

>>153071995
You probably fail to comprehend all the dialogue, plot and fight sequences and you get bored desu. Regardless HxH is probably top 3 in terms of best Shonen manga, hell it's pushing itself to Seinin levels in some arcs, not to mention if it ever get's finished the Dark Continent will be a legit bloodbath of epic proportions. I personally like it because each arc hits a certain theme and brings something new to the table. Togashi is a creative fuck and one hell of a writer, I just hate that he's essentially a seasonal manga artist, we get like what a volume's worth of chapters a year now?

>>153072060
Oh anon, I didn't skip to the good part. I dropped the series because it's shit and takes too long to get to the good parts.
If they're even that good.
But they're probably not, which is why HxH is going to continue to be an obscure shit of a series, especially when it's author fucking dies

>>153072127
Go to >>>/wsr/ if you want recommendations that badly.

>>153072180
Are you going to actually describe anything and make an argument for HxH? I'm really tired of these
>its good trust me
opinions when the first 26 episodes of the anime were such a terrible trudge

>>153072189
>2 anime adaptations
>#6 on best anime of all time on myanimelist the only thing being higher is gintama, FMA and Steins gate
>Obscure

Anon it's no shame to not be able to read
A lot of people in Africa can't read

>>153072288
Oh, are HxHniggers /pol/tards?
I didn't know, I won't bother asking about that over-priced toilet paper again
btw
>>>/pol/

Jojo is engaging because it breaks trends that were omnipresent in shounen manga back in the day.

not only that but the fact that araki was willing to take risks with the direction of the manga means that every part feels unique and not like the other which keeps one interested.

>>153072112
how pessimistic.

if everyone just htinks of dragon ball as the poster child of anime then that's just fine because nothing will dethrone dragon ball in any category it gets placed on, especially nostalgia.

>>153072112
Bleach is just a ripoff of a mediocre manga

>>153072315
Are you retarded?

>>153071817
But stands existed before Dio, Anubis's user was alive 500 years ago And wasn't Part 4 good?

>>153070050
Part 5's protagonist is essentially Italian and the story takes place in Europe, shit was mad popular.

Part 7's protagonist is literally the alternate universe version of Joseph Joestar, aka Johnny Joestar and he's one of people's favorite Jojo MC's. The story takes place in the U.S

If anything the Higashikata's are just a branch family to add japanese heritage to the Jojo MC's.

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>>153072315
No he's right a lot of people in Africa can't read

>>153072333
praising something for its old merits is not a compelling argument.

nobody cared about jojo before the anime, old things that are new to will always be interesting because they come from another time. those who've already seen the high and lows of manga and anime can see for what it is and it's shit.

>>153072378
>>153072449
So I can continue telling me friends to eat shit over their stupid kid manga?
Great, thanks

>>153072498
>praising something for its old merits is not a compelling argument.

lol
Must be tough being constantly mad and 15

>>153072420
>anubis
come on, that's just araki ignoring his own continuity.

>>153072437
Note popular doesn't = good, SAO case and point.
I give part 5 a 7.5/10

>>153071817
... DIO's presence is what triggered most of the Joestar family tree to have their own stand powers, not the whole world in general. Enya the old lady used the arrow sometime before Part 3 to awaken DIO's stand to begin with so it was relevant just not a major plot point in Part 3.

>>153072500
Again anon
There's no shame in being stupid
There's lots of people who are stupid
Lashing at out at others isn't going to solve your stupidity

Reading will

>>153072609
HunterecksHunter is shit, it has unrelate-able children as main characters, and is mostly focused on a clown with Luffy's powers.
It's a joke, and there's a reason other series have more fans.

>>153071817
>stands should also disappear since DIO's presense is what brought forth these things right?

thats how the joestars got their stands, but they existed before
read part 5

>>153072145
>hurr why do people enjoy things

>>153063451
Eww, is that Etika?

>>153072660
>I need to self insert to like something
Do you like to pretend that you're sauske anon?

Do you have the headband?

>>153072060
the highest number you've scored is in weight & not IQ

>>153072741
>pulling the self insert card
>in defense of a series with a shounen power perfect for teenager OCs

lol
So what makes it good, was it the shitty exam arc? or is it the goofy mafia shit?
or the One Piece animals?

>>153072533
Stand users attract stand users. Stand users weren't present in 1 and 2 since no one had a stand
the arrows made stand users appear more often

>>153072837
>talks about relating to the characters
>LOL WHY ARE YOU PULLING THE SELF-INSERT CARD

???
Anon I was joking about the reading thing?
Do you actually have dyslexia?

>>153072944
>Too dumb to read a 4chan post
>tells others they don't get it

lol
I guess HxH is just worse than crap like Fairytail then.
At least Fairytail TRIES to be original, I watch HxH and all I see is Dragonball+Naruto

>>153072288
>>>/mal/

>>153072991
I'm surprised you can see anything at all

Considering you have dyslexia and all
Do the subs like wander off the screen and re-arrange themselves?

>>153072991
>putting fairy tale and HxH in the same sentence
MODS

>>153073057
>>153073085
plz anon lurkers
tell me, are all hxhlosers like this? do they all wish they were the little boy being raped by a clown?

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>>153072991
>Fairy Tail tries to be original

>>153073289
gon is literally goku

>>153073357
???

What?

>>153073450
prove me wrong
hxh why does it have xs is this some 90s kid internet manga or some shit

>>153073489
You're the one who stated the point
The burden of proof lies on you

>>153040072
Those open-toed sandals all the ninjas wear look like dogshit

>>153040072
cus jojo is self aware and isn't the same episode over and over?

>>153073577
cmon, the story is basically a constant DB rip off like every other fucking shounen out of the 90s

What are you talking about? DBZ is the cumulation of shounen shit. It WAS good, but not anymore. People who like it are either manchildren or MUH NOSTALGIA

>>153073624
Again, explain your point you're just throwing out opinions like facts with nothing to back them up

What are the similarities that you're trying to prove

>>153073720
read the manga

>>153073450
>Spiky hair
>Loves fighting
>Weirdly strong
>Lived in the jungle
>Lovable personality.

>>153060822
>Yeah and then remember when he died for fucking good in the most sudden death in the series, after you thought he was invincible since he already "died" once and then half the cast died?
this honestly shocked the hell out of me, wonder fucking execution

Im still shocked joseph survived that

>>153073844
Right that's the archetype for a lot of characters

Naruto also has spiky hair and loves fighting, weirdly strong and has a lovable personality
That doesn't make naruto the same thing as Dragon ball z

Luffy too

What are the similarities between the two shows that you're trying to prove
That the characters look sort of similar?

>>153074000
>and has a lovable personality
No he didn't.

I mean, Gon is almost the exact same character and Kid Goku, I don't know why you're in doubt of that. And the fact that he's inspired by Goku isn't a bad thing, many shonen characters were inspired by Goku, thought not to Gon's degree.

>>153074084
How is Gon anything like goku?

Goku is an alien from another planet who doesn't understand human customs and lives only to fight

Gon is a abnormally strong child who lived in a town with his aunt and his goal is chasing his dad

>>153071817
Araki could've just brought back Hamon after part 4.

>>153040072
Naruto get shittier over time while jojo improves over time. I can't literally name a better manga than Steel Ball Run.

Because Jojo is far less dull than Naruto.

>>153074435
Read more manga.

>>153059812
Nice argument faggot

>>153069555

>Nostalgia
I hate this generalization. Anyone who thinks Dragonball is just nostalgia should go and read manga from the beginning.

>>153071128
Go back to facebook

>>153071418

>After frieza
This. Dragonball became shit and quality went downhill after frieza arc. Cell arc was good but it deserved good main villain and not that stupid cell.

>>15307149
And 100% this.

>>153072112
Tell me one thing, how many main villains were defeated by goku excluding bhi arc? I hate when some people make this claim.

>>153074419
'no'

>>153074435
jojolion :)

>>153074474

>bhi arc
I meant buu arc

>>153074474
lol fag

>>153074419
Hamon would just become like ki or Chakra if it stands didn't exist

>>153074474
All of them except Cell.

>>153046786
>loveable characters

Only ones that qualify are Piccolo and Gohan. Goku is a retarded manchild who only cares about food and fighting, Vegeta is an edgy faggot who cries about "muh saiyan pride" nonstop, Krillin and the rest are only there to stall the bad guy and die so Goku has a reason to pull another power out of his ass.

>god tier fights

Yeah all that grunting and screaming for 20 minutes every episode was so god tier.

>dragonball knows that it is stupid

That doesn't give it a free pass unless you think Uwe Boll movies should also be considered amazing for the exact same reasons.

>>153075085
>Goku is a retarded manchild who only cares about food and fighting.

This is Super Goku, not Z Goku. Remember when Goku took a break from training to spend time with his family during the Cell Games?

>>153074474
>Anyone who thinks Dragonball is just nostalgia should go and read manga from the beginning.

Anyone who thinks DBZ is the best anime ever should go and watch more anime.

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>>153075151
No but I do remember that time he let Frieza and Vegeta live so he could have a rematch with them. And that time he abandoned his family at the end of the Buu saga to train some village kid who only ever appeared in the sequel series nobody liked.

>>153072189
>HxH
>a series that sells 2 millions every new volume despite all the hiatuses
>obscure

>>153059812
>dragonball?

honestly Naruto/DBZ/Jojo exclusive discussion in /v/ would height the board's quality desu

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>>153075217
>facebook memes
please stop

The Vegeta time was selfish yes, but he let Frieza live so that Frieza could turn over a new leaf. Pic related, Goku is compassionate.

I also remember him sacrificing his life to save Gohan from Raditz. I also remember him sacrificing his life to save everyone from Cell saga.

>he abandoned his family at the end of the Buu saga to train some village kid who only ever appeared in the sequel series nobody liked.

He didn't. Gohan and Goten were fully grown, they had their own lives and didn't need Goku to babysit them anymore. Goku stayed with his family for 10 years after Buu, did you forget how he trained Goten and kept him in shape?

>>153075552
>The Vegeta time was selfish yes, but he let Frieza live so that Frieza could turn over a new leaf.

That's honestly much worse, the fact that he's willing to let a guy who destroyed homes and killed children just for fun live in the very slim chance he might rethink his life just because he was beaten into submission, and the meme I posted is actually true.

>>153058109
Underrated comment

>>153058109
What's the difference?

>>153071777
>>153071671

it dragged on it was brutal man. why didnt they just use the chameleon bro and sneak attack crit everything if i were the strategist the final fight that took like 20 episodes would have taken a couple of mins max. I did love the blind girl however. also on the topic of hxh the last arc was even worse literally nothing happened. i am hyped however for new continent - that would be the best arc yet tho i doubt it will be finished now

>>153040072

DBZ is too old to even discuss whether to validate as good or not, also most of us watched it when we were too young to even criticize anything about it.

Jojo never got Western exposure until 5 seconds ago, so there's hardly any point in giving it shit for its flaws. People feel guilty for not knowing about it (being even more influential than DBZ) and are reluctant to not memegasm over it to compensate.

Naruto is in that spot where most /a/fags already had strong anime opinions when they watched it, plus it's not associated with any great legacy.

>>153040072
JoJo and DBZ are classic anime that don't follow a lot of the new anime tropes, because they came before them. The only one I can think of is with Goku being the "I'm dumb, but really powerful and I eat like a hippo" trope, but that's about it off the top of my head. Naruto is full of that stuff. Naruto is the dumb but strong character, Sasuke is the edgy rival who has a dark past and seeks more power, Sakura is the Tsudere bitch who is actually a romantic fool, Rock Lee is the quirky friend everyone thinks is weak until he "breaks his limits". Bleach suffers from the same stuff. You can't really compare new stuff to old stuff. That would be like trying to compare Saint Seiya and something like Soul Eater or something.

>>153075758
So, you're both

>>153074913
>All of them

piccolo
Vegeta
frieza
cell
goku lost both tenkaichi at the beginning

and you think goku always finishes the big bad?

>>153075154

>best anime

I never made such claims you retard. Dragonball is one of the greatest shonen ever, that's what I am saying. And only a newfag facebook retard like you would compare Dragonball ,a shonen, with seinen and mature manga.

>>153075085

>grunting

That's why I told you newfags to read the manga or watch db kai you retards.

>>153076582
>piccolo (jr)
>tenkaichi
>main villains

Also you forgot ginyu force

>>153076658
>Dragonball is one of the greatest shonen ever
No. And only a newfag facebook retard like you would compare Dragonball with Saint Seiya, Yu Yu Hakusho, HxH, FMA, One Piece or Soul Eater

>>153076582
Yes he beat King Piccolo and his son, killing the former and letting the latter live.

Okay Vegeta I'll give you but Vegeta had to cheat anyway, and it was enough to make Vegeta butthurt for the rest of the series.

He beat Frieza and let him go.

I already pointed out Cell, can't you read?

>>153076658
And as >>153077044 pointed out there are far better shounen.


>>153076732
No thanks, I already wasted more than enough of my time on that tripe.

>>153077044
Not that guy but One Pice and Soul Eater were pretty bad too. Instead I would have Fist of the North Star, the pioneer of the shonen genre.

>>153061851
Araki stated that Pucci was too strong for any of the MC's to defeat lol. Your strongest point went out the window

>>153077790

>Vegeta
Just accept it. The main character was hyped as fucked with new power upgrade and training but in the end his ass got beaten by the villain and his son(gohan) and krillin finsihed the job because in the beginning of Dbz gohan was supposed to be the main chara. Have you seen this anywhere else?Its very rare for a shonen series to change the main character, it's a different thing that toriyama failed because Japanese gokufags wanted to suck goku's dick forever and he brought goku back after cell arc and gohan became worthless.

>>153077044

Asshole. Don't act like you hv watched more shonen than me. I love Dragonball but i love Yuyuhakusho the most. And i guess you don't understand the meaning of
>one of the greatest shonen

You illiterate idiot, it means that Dragonball is not the "greatest" but it is "one of the greatest" with other great shonen like Yuyuhakusho, hunterxhunter, hakuto no ken etc.

Dragonball is not that bad or worst like you are claiming it to be. Just accept it ,facebook.

>>153077790
>One Pice and Soul Eater were pretty bad too
But they are better than Saint Seiya and Yu Yu Hakusho

>>153055339
Until you said this I hadn't realized that Gintama totally subverted the alien stuff for most of it's run.

>>153040072
Because DBZ has nostalgia value for most of us, has a kind of interesting storyline, and feels "fun", and Naruto is just fucking ridiculously dumb autistic shit. "Durr they put their arms behind them 2 go fasters!!!"

Anyone who says JoJo is bad has no idea how to sensibly measure the quality of an artistic creation. I don't see the comparison between it and Naruto at all, other than the fact that it has males that fight in it. The art style alone is enough to get it put into a fucking museum.

>>153078449
>Dragonball is not that bad or worst like you are claiming it to be.
No, Dragon Ball is one of the worst battle shounen

The characters are unidimensional or jobbers

All the fights were just "he-hes fast" punch and energy blast

The mayority of battle shounen have better characters and fights than Dragon Ball

>Just accept it ,facebook.
Woah, man, you hurt my feelings

Personally, I've never seem any hate for Naruto at all. Each show has its own personal unique feeling to them, and I guess (from your prospective at least) people just don't like Naruto's feel? I know DBZ is heavily praised for being a classic, and so is JoJo's as well. They're also regarded as the one's that really laid out the base for how certain shonen's should be.

>>153041113
>They are immune to a lot of the criticisms of genre tropes since they are the ones that invented/popularized them.

None of them did any of that.

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>>153054510
This. 1000x this.

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JoJo is made of faggotry. By fags for fags.

Part 1. Dio kills Jojo's dog, dad, William Zeppeli, and Jonathan.
Part 2. What does Caesar Zeppeli and a can of soda have in common? They both go flat when they run out of bubbles.
Part 3. Avdol dies first, twice. Iggy gets kicked in by Vanilla Ice Cream. And Kakyoin gets turn into a doughnut.
Part 4. Yoshikage Kira kills Pineapple head, Aya, Yoshihiro Kira. Then the true hero comes and kills him. Ambulance.
Part 5. Dio sticks Jonathan's dick into everything and Giorno Giovanna is one of his many offspring. Bruno gets killed but then becomes a zombie. Best girl Narancia dies and then GioGio goes super god mode and kills Diavolo again and again and again and again and again and again. Polnareff becomes a turtle.
Part 6. Everyone dies. Even Jotaro.
Part 7. The President kills Gyro Zeppeli. Johnny kills the President in all parallel worlds.
Part 8. Gappy is the new Jojo and he has four balls because he's made of two people
Yoshikage Kira and Josuke Higashikata. Johnny kills himself to save his child and wife.

Here's some spoilers. Help curb the cancerous fanbase by deterring new people from watching it.

>>153071418
>Has there ever been a single shonen that is an actually good series and is consistent in quality all the way through?

BECK.
>>153071593
>Hunter X Hunter
Only York Shin and CA are good

>YYH
Bait, YYH is awful after the dark tournament

>>153079192
Thanks.

>>153079192
You know what, I'm saving this post.

>>153079192
Bump the last spoiler to the top so you ruin it for people who are half way through.

Fanbase mostly. They're all alright for what they are though, but the only one that actually continued to get any better with age is JoJo. The later Parts are actually really good.

Naruto had potential and was fun for a while before going to shit, original Dragonball was great and JoJo was ok at first but slowly got better over the years and is still improving. The issue is that the fanbases for all 3 are rabidly autistic and make actual discussion almost impossible.

ITT: /a/ reveals they care more about the fan bases than the actual manga and anime

>>153040072
Naruto is an edgy series about children fighting one another and jojo is a fun series about flamboyant adults posing.

Battle tendency is the only arc from any anime/manga that has made me genuinely laugh, rather than doing that quick exhale thing that everyone does but yet has no name

>>153079871
>jojo is a fun series about flamboyant adults posing
Holy shit fuck off, it was like that for 2 years of it's 30 year lifespan.

>>153079834
This thread reveals nothing. This has literally been happening since the conception of this site.

>>153079923
Literally google image search JoJolion and see what you get, faggot

>>153079871
Why the fuck did animeonlies latch onto the whole 'LE EBIN POSES XDDDD' thing? It's not what the series is about and it's just a stupid thing Araki does on occasion because of his love for avant garde fashion shit, and not even exclusive to JoJo in that regard since countless manga pull stuff like it.

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>>153079923
But anon Part 5 went on for 4 years.

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>>153079999
Not him and I don't mean to get pedantic but saying the series is 'about' the semi-regular funny looking panels Araki draws really undersells the actual merits of the series. Like how this page is completely serious but also intentionally funny at the same time.

>>153080005
>it's just a stupid thing Araki does on occasion because of his love for avant garde fashion shit

Don't see why you have a problem with "flamboyant adults posing" if you agree that's his style. judging by the anon's basic description of naruto, I doubt they actually think that's all jojo is and has been.

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>>153080078
Everything about the current arc is hilarious yet also really tense and gets you into it. The whole premise of Jobin being terrified of Josuke and asking a fucking cripple of all people to help him out and beat him up is ridiculous but it actually makes for a really engaging story.

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>>153080078
>>153080153

Sometimes it's not intentional, hes not always self aware. Araki is just that fucking weird.

>>153080152
It's mostly just when people don't shut up about ebin poses and don't talk about other shit. Araki draws like that but I don't see why it's such a big draw for people when it's relatively minor and has little impact on anything. It's mostly just the first influx of animeonlies back when the anime started that completely fucking destroyed discussion for a while.

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>It's one of funnyjunk's favorite anime.
That should tell you enough about it.

>>153046786
>normie
these dgz, jojo and narutofags everyone

go fuck yourself

>>153080078
see
>>153080152

Hit the nail on the head. Gave a stupid response to OP's stupid question.

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>>153080200
>Jojo is one of Funnyjunk, Reddit, /co/, /mlp/, tumblr. MAL, favorite anime

>>153080164
A solid 90% of the time he's self aware and purposefully tries to make shit funny and serious at the same time. He's one of the very few mangaka who can balance the two so well. Though on occasion he'll come up with something so fucking stupid you can't help but laugh even though that wasn't his intent, and sometimes (particularly in 5 onwards) things get pretty fucking heavy with little humour which also doesn't seem like the intent. Either way he knows what he's doing most of the time.

>>153080200
>This anime is bad because people I don't like enjoy it!

>>153080195
This has really struck a nerve with you. I can understand defending an artist's creativity when it's being challenged, but getting ass-blasted when someone sums up their work in a super simplistic way is a bit much.

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>>153080254
Like how Bruno's flashback about how he became property of the gang and his dad was targeted for accidentally seeing a drug deal and how Bruno had to become a killer at 12 years old was meant to be serious but the entire scene is still funny because Araki draws him with the same haircut and clothes as a 12 year old that he has as a 20 year old, despite all the prior flashbacks showing the gang with normal clothes rather than their weird designer shit. What the fuck kind of kid dresses like this when his parents are poor as fuck?

>>153050043
Tell me one series that kills the entire cast, restarts the universe, and does it all without pissing off the fanbase and executing it in style.

>>153080322
I think I went overboard in the first post. I don't have an issue with the summation of his style in that way because it's mostly true, it's just that I automatically associated it with the idiot kind of animeonly posters without taking the time to actually take the context into account. Rereading the earlier posts it seems like I was being hasty in that assessment.

>>153080375
That did piss off the Japs though, and even then it didn't affect much because it only overwrote Part 6 itself and the first 5 are basically untouched.

>>153080288
Yes, that's right.

>>153080375
Evangelion

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>>153080346
Shame he had to become such a slut and let the boss fist him.

>>153040072
Hmm

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Why does Jojo attract the worst type of fanbase - the ironic weeb?

>>153040072

I dunno, Jojo is widely looked at as the most cancerous fanbase on /a/ right now.

Naruto was shat on because it was the gateway anime of the worst kind. It isn't a gateway anime anymore since I don't think you can call a 700 episode anime gateway material.

I love both the manga and anime adaptions of JoJo so far. Araki is just an all around fun guy to watch and see what other whacky shit he'll come up with next.

I just hate discussing JoJo on /a/ because of these exact same threads. Actually /a/ in general is just shit when it comes to discussing anything and that we're all here to shitpost and make everyone mad.

Just board culture for ya.

>>153081330
Good discussion is when there aren't cancerous generals which people refuse to stop making. Give it a break and start the threads when the part 5 anime starts or there's a new chapter, every topic has been exhausted which is why there is shitposting.

Also, name another website that has better anime discussion than /a/
>inb4 reddit

>>153081254
Who do people shit on VLC? It works fine to watch anime on it

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>>153081458
Buddy, don't bring this up ever again outside this thread or the /a/utists will rip you apart. MPC-HC + MadVR + xysubfilter is for the cool kids last time I checked.

>>153081391
Every other medium is just as bad when discussing anything anywhere. It's all hug box/safe place shit unlike /a/.

However to even get any good discussion here you have to wade through shit generals/threads/shitposts to even see some anon being sincere with their post that doesn't illicit "This is bait/shit taste/kys/etc" responses.

Worst part is /a/ isn't even made for long term discussions, just quick in and out posting due to the traffic/thread creations/posts happening constantly.


Bottom line is that we're all here to shitpost, and that any genuine discussions that are trying to happen are immediately shitposted either at the beginning, middle, or towards the end of a threads life.

We're all pretty jaded at this point.

>>153081589
Weekly/monthly manga dumps from less popular manga usually have better discussion and less shitposting. The latest chapter gets discussed and that's it.

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>>153040072
>gee I wonder

>>153043872
Joeseph assumed he'd die and his friends assumed he was dead. we didn't see it happen.

>>153047182
Worst part of part 3 but it was partly excused when he actually did die.

>>153081589
>However to even get any good discussion here you have to wade through shit generals/threads/shitposts to even see some anon being sincere with their post that doesn't illicit "This is bait/shit taste/kys/etc" responses.
Well, that's almost fucking impossible since there will always be at least one person who shits on every opinion that's different from theirs.

>>153081571
So if MPC-HC is a videoplayer, what do you need MadVR and xysubfilter for?

>>153046959
Don't listen to this man.

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>>153081960
Some customizable video render that increases graphics for autists. I just a filthy pleb who installed KCP so I don't really know how it works so I'll just copy paste.

>high quality chroma upsampling
>high quality scaling (bicubic, mitchell, lanczos, spline etc)
>high quality YCbCr -> RGB conversion
>gamut & gamma correction for display calibration
>full 16bit processing queue
>final 16bit processing result is dithered down to RGB output bitdepth
>bypasses graphics card's video (damage) algorithms
>all work is done via GPU shaders (except madVR's IVTC atm)
>no shortcuts, highest quality has priority over anything else

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DBZ, Naruto, One Piece are for child.
If you are 18+ and you enjoy these you must be mentally retarder.

>>153040992
Characters dying for real isn't a selling point. This is nothing special for most anime or manga, only people who've only watched shit like dbz would find this to be a characteristic of Jojo.

I don't know if anybody else thinks this, but the fact that there are "parts" instead of "arcs" is pretty unique and fun. Don't know if anybody else considers it as cool as I do, so who knows. I honestly prefer the Phantom Blood manga over the Fist of the North Star manga because it knows when to end, and doesn't ruin itself later on with much less interesting arcs.

The only thing worse than the Naruto fanbase are those guys who "Hate everything that's super popular, or nearly as popular as MY favorite series".

This will often be One Piece fags, moeblob connoisseurs, DBZ fans, edgy sennien fans.

So which are you OP? You think dbz, and Jojo are shit, what isn't shit according to you?
>>153040072
Oh, I forgot, this is a bait thread. You got me.

>>153060235
Neither JoJo nor OPM, Terra Formars or SnK were mainstream a few years ago. As soon as it get a halfway decent Anime, leddit will be all over it.

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>>153082700
I feel like respecting your dead characters or letting important characters die isn't something most shounen shows are doing.

Jojo even had the opportunity to bring people back the dead with stand powers but Limp Bizkit was our only glimpse into that.

But yeah I'd say the story being separated into parts is a pretty huge, it means individual parts can have their story and end when they need too.

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>>153083043
Meant to post this picture but that's also a good one.

>>153040072
Because Jojo and DBZ did the very same thing Naruto did, only better and decades before.

>>153040072
They're jealous their shit shows aren't animated by veteran animators.

/a/ liked Jojo until it got an anime which made it popular
if something gets too popular /a/ will hate it

>>153082209
wow you are so mature, what should i watch to be so mature? i dont know any mature anime, please reccomend me mature anime so i can be as mature as you please.

>>153071491
Your post is literally what's wrong with the DB fanbase.

Nardo's fans are for the most part aware that their series is a gateway manganime of the worst kind, and seldomly try to argument their series is maybe not as bad as it is. JoJofags are mostly ebin memers that don't take themselves very seriously when discussing their fabulous memey series, although they arguably have the best claim for the "best series out of those three" title. But DBfags, somehow, have grown to believe that their series is the all-end of shonen and one of the greatest masterpieces Japan has ever shat, that their series created and owns the genre and that every other series in it is just a downgrade, a knock-off, or an unworthy successor (even though DB is far from being the best shonen, and that there were better series even during its heyday, just that none became as retardedly popular in the West as it). Combine that with industrial quantities of nostalgia goggles and "muh childhood", and you have what is easily the most cancerous fanbase of the three, and definitely the most deluded and unreasonable, almost on par with some of the worst of LNfags and the first wave of Nardofags.

And this is coming from someone whose childhood was Dragon Ball, and still likes it (Super much less so).

>>153083250
Got it.