ITT: shit anime /a/ tricked you into watching

>>153015884
No one says that.

>>153016214
I heard people say that multiple times. It's the only reason I gave it a chance, since I just used to dismiss it as Zombie Gainax.

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>>153016214
I agree with the greentext. I love Houkago no Pleiades.

>>153015884
Hyouka
>it's a masterpiece
>it has subtle character interaction
Never again. Fuck you /a/.

>>153015884
konosuba
lwa
maid dragon

>>153016611
You think that "Car Commercial: The Anime" is the best thing to ever come out of studio Gainax, Trigger, and Khara?

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>>153016797
What, you didn't like the brilliant dialogue and characterization (I'm a database! And I'll repeat it every episode!)?
The clever misteries (Who locked the door? Oh it was the janitor.)?
The nuanced and subtle direction (pic related)?

>>153016611
What do you like about it? It's so generic, it doesn't feel like a Gainax show in the slightest. Any third rate studio could have done it.

>>153016997
Yes.

>>153017004
The good think about it is that now my dick picks shows for me and it's almost always right.

>>153016797
This.
What a beautiful snorefest.

>>153017343
Chitanda lifting up Mayaka is one of the most arousing things I've ever seen but still isn't worth the 10 hours of my life wasted on that shit.

>>153017004
>Post one overt scene because you were too stupid to catch the subtle ones
>Cry about database
You're one of my favorite "I was too stupid to follow Hyouka" shitposters.

>>153016797
this

fucking trash

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>>153017674
there is nothing subtle about hyouka at all

>>153017674
Dude, Hyouka isn't Mad Men, its character drama and writing are LN-tier, and the direction is painfully unsubtle.
Database and energy conservation feel like the cringeworthy attemps of a middle aged, mediocre writer, of writing something teenagers would say.

>>153017729
>If I can find overt stuff from the start of the series that means it's never subtle
Like I was saying, you're definitely a cut above the other shitposters because of your persistence, and because I can tell you're really mad about not being able to follow any of the stuff the show doesn't explicitly point out.

>>153017864
>A bunch of buzzwords that don't apply
>Muh Western drama
Yes. Give me more.

>>153017872
>these examples of blatant exposition don't count!
k

>>153015884
gainax is doing animation still?
last I heard they became a tomato farming company.

>>153016997
>You think that "Car Commercial: The Anime"
There are almost zero car references in that show, just the brooms and that scene with the father that just talks about a car piece, what a fucking commercial it was.

>>153017872
>not being able to follow any of the stuff the show doesn't explicitly point out.
the show points out everything to you

god forbid the viewers go 10 minutes without satoshi reminding everyone that he's just a database

>>153017872
>>153017908
>>153017674
Even the Hyouka defenders sound pretentious

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>>153017949
They went from car commercials to anime for muslims.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-02/gainax-saudi-arabia-arinat-make-3-minute-desert-knight-trailer/.108401

>>153017872
>>153017972
If satoshi isn't the one being obnoxious about his trope then it's Oreki or Chitanda spewing their annoying catchphrases about being lazy or curious

>>153015884
That fucking subaru

>>153017921
I'm going to need you to explain to me why some overt dialog in the early stages of the series, or overt (and beautiful) visual metaphors are bad. Also I'd like to know where I claimed that every single part of the show is subtle.

>>153017972
>Points out everything
Nah, you're only saying that about the stuff you actually managed to follow. Hell we still have threads where people can't figure out the cosplay cafe argument.

>>153017980
T/N: pretentious means "makes me feel bad about being stupid"

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>pleiades is now popular enough for people to bait using it in the OP
oh gosh

>>153017908
>that don't apply
No, I think "Database and energy conservation feel like the cringeworthy attemps of a middle aged, mediocre writer, of writing something teenagers would say." is pretty spot on.
Would you like to tell us why you think this dialogue isn't shit?

>>153018046
This. How can Hyouka haters not understand the multilayered complexity of Chitanda's words every time she tells Oreki that she's curious?

>>153018037
muhamed married both a loli and a christmas cake
sounds like a good idea for a doujin but I suspect most would be scared of being killed to try

>>153018130
>A shit show being called for what it is makes it popular
kek

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>>153018046
>I'm going to need you to explain to me why some overt dialog in the early stages of the series, or overt (and beautiful) visual metaphors are bad.
>early stages
This shit was happening deep into the show, this is from episode 17

>>153018133
>Can you tell me why this translation of moon for a few lines of early exposition isn't shit?
Keep going.

>>153018138
You too, let the anger flow.

>>153018279
>Character makes a comment about their personality early on
>After a series of events is concluded, they make a callback to it in order to explain something
It seems that seeing the word "database" triggers you.

>>153018327
>i-it's good in japanese! The translation ruins it!
You keep going, it's hilarious.
>early exposition
>>153018279

>>153018046
No, pretentious means acting like a tryhard, which is what you're doing right now.

>>153017955
Her name is fucking Subaru

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>>153018387
i don't care what they use it for, it's still shit

Hyouka was forced catchphrases: the anime

>>153017170
What do you hate about it? It's so beautifully done, it feels better than the usual Gainax show ever. Any third rate studio could only dream to surpass it.

>>153018434
>No, pretentious means acting like a tryhard
in an ideal world that would be how people use the word,
that usually isn't the case, most of the time it really is "makes me feel bad about being stupid" or "something that requires a bit of time and thinking rather being given something simplistic instantaneously.
I have no stake in the Hyouka conversation by the way, i'm just cutting in to point that out.

Lucky Star and Garupan.

>>153018540
>What do you hate about it?
The awful character design? The uninspired direction and animation? The eyecancer inducing CG? The generic characters? The mediocre writing? The only things worth mentioneing are the backgrounds and music.
>it feels better than the usual Gainax show ever
So you never liked the studio to begin with? How can you even compare this to their classics?

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>>153015884
If you wanted a HnP thread, you could've just said so anon.

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>>153017423
>What a beautiful snorefest.
You took the words out of my heart, anon

>>153017864
>Database and energy conservation feel like the cringeworthy attemps of a middle aged, mediocre writer, of writing something teenagers would say.
Dunno, it seems like something a mediocre cringy teenager would say. Anime barely portrays teens being cringy but so sure of themselves.

>>153018426
>Series is full of wordplay and clever Japanese prose
>"I don't know moon, but the language used in the story sucks"
Sure thing. I bet you've "analyzed" the dialog in monogatari, too.

>>153018488
>It's shit because I say it's shit
Ok

>>153018817
>it's good because i say it's good

>>153015884
>It's better than everything Trigger and Khara have done!
That's correct though.

>>153018817
>>Series is full of wordplay and clever Japanese prose
Such as?

>>153018770
>Dunno, it seems like something a mediocre cringy teenager would say
Without wandering too far from Hyouka, Kyon's monologues feel much more like what a teenager would say.
Hyouka's dialogue is just faux and artificial.

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Why can't Hyoukafags admit that their show is boring and they just want to feel important and smart?

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>>153018884
>Hyouka's dialogue is just faux and artificial.
this pretty much

most of the dialogue reads like something i'd expect to find as the title of a reddit post

>>153018835
>It's good because of clever wordplay, beautiful directing and excellent use of visual metaphors
Yeah, pretty much.

>>153018861
>Give me examples of why the dialog is good despite me not knowing the source language
Sure, and right after that I'll explain colors to a blind man.

>>153018855
Nah.
Even Kiznaiver was better than this, the writing was about on the same level, but at least it looked good.

>>153018884
>Kyon's monologues feel much more like what a teenager would say.
Nah. They sound like an adult writing a teenager, like most LN, like most media really. Kyon's dialogue is cinematic and humoristic, which is by no means wrong. But it's not realistic. Wanna hear realistic teenage dialogue? Listen to a high schooler conversation and prepare to cringe wondering if you were as dumb at their age.

>>153018884
>Praising Kyons monologues in Hyouka
Jesus Christ, are these the people that don't like Hyouka, angry Haruhifags?

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Wow
>>153018817
>anime dialogue
>clever Japanese prose
Nice one. It seems like you're the one who doesn't know moon

>>153018935
>Kiznaiver
0/10, you're gonna have to troll harder than that.

>>153018986
君は日本語ができるか？じゃ、ぜひ日本語で返事しててください

Boku no pico, but at the end it was not so bad.

I was interested in Pleiades for a thread a day ago. I'm still hot for this.

I was interested intrigued in Hyouka despite having suffered the first 6 episodes, people keep saying it's good and shit so I thought I missed something but this thread convinced me not to force myself to watch it.

>>153019027
No, I'm serious.
Kiznaiver is a 5/10, but Pleiades isn't any better.
And it look WAY worse.

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>>153015884
We were talking about full time tv series, not 5 minutes specials, you faggot.

ITT: everything you like is shit

>>153019119
>Kiznaiver is a 5/10
more like a 3/10

>>153019074
I forced myself to watch 12 episodes, not because of /a/ but my love for Kyoani.
It was insufferable. I don't care if the second half is Haruhi S3, I was not invested and I just don't care.
Don't watch Hyouka if you didn't like what you watched. Don't fall for the masterpiece meme.

>>153019119
>Kiznaiver is a 5/10
More like a 9/10.

>>153019181
9/100*

>>153019119
>numerical ratings
So not trolling, just retarded. Got it.

>>153018980
>Okay, asking somebody how long they believed in Santa Claus is so stupid, you can't even consider the topic suitable for idle conversation. But if you still wanna know how long I believed in some old fat guy who wears a funky red suit, I can tell you this: I've never believed in him, ever. The Santa that showed up at my kindergarten Christmas festival, I knew he was fake. And I never saw mommy kissing Santa or anything. But I have to say, that even as a little kid, I knew better than to believe in some old man that only worked one day a year.
Feels pretty cringy to me.But in an authentic way, unlike everything you hear from Database and Energy Conservation.
>>153018981
I like shows that are good. Hyouka just isn't, I don't have any vendetta aginst it.

>>153019211
100/9

>>153019119
>I'm too autistic to understand character's feelings and motives unless they're are outright spoken
Kiznaiver threads were full of autistic faggots that couldn't see foreshadowing and romance developing, but what was so difficult for you to understand about Pleiades? Not edgy enough?

>>153019217
I already said it was shit just lke Pleiades, but you didn't seem to understand.

>>153019229
>I like shows that are good
Holy shit, we have the same tastes

>>153019229
>I like shows that are good
Said everyone ever.

>>153019256
> Kiznaiver threads were full of autistic faggots that couldn't see foreshadowing and romance developing
I still think most of that had to be shitposting, because seriously, there was way too much Asperger's-tier lack of basic human understanding in those threads.

>>153019297
Your taste is shit, but you don't seem to understand.
A shame you seemed an honest man.

>Kiznaiver is better than Pleiades

Now we're fucking shitflinging with fire.

>>153019355
AND ALL THE FEARS YOU HOLD SO DEAR

>>153019229
>These catchphrases are bad
>But these wicked, intelligent and nihilistic ramblings are good
I'm dying.

RE: Zero
Overlord
Log Horizon

All mediocre at best. The new new hack sign they said.

>>153019408
Will turn to whisper in your ear

>>153019426
Yes, teenagers are more likely to spout wicked, intelligent and nihilistic ramblings than "I'm a database, a database can't draw any conclusion."
Took you long enough to figure it out.

>>153015884
>dude Yosuga no Sora is the best anime ever made, it's so deep and complicated
>generic harem crap but with a worse plot than Oni Chichi and with worse written characters than Ram Sem
I want those five hours of my life back.

>>153019519
AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY MIGHT HURT YOU

>>153019256
>>I'm too autistic to understand character's feelings and motives unless they're are outright spoken
Are you lost? We're talking about Pleiades here, not Hyouka.

>>153019524
>Yosuga no Sora is the best anime ever made, it's so deep
>>153016214

>>153019521
Ah, you were "that" kid.

The reason a hidden gem exists in the first place is because plebeians can't appreciate it.
Fans of Pleiades should just stop trying to push it, as it will never get the popular recognition it deserves. Dedicated anime fans will eventually hear about it sooner her later, the others can keep on thinking it's shit because it's not a "real Gainax show" (understand, there's no big robot in it).

>>153018470
So Nanoha Striker's is also a car commercial?
And Re:Zero?

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>>153015884
No wonder /a/ is the only place in the world that cares about this piece of shit.

>>153019582
And apparently you were the autistic one.

>>153019578
How did you missed the last 500 incest threads we had?

>>153019564
It was about Kiznaiver. Read the thread.

>>153018046
>>153018434
>>153018279
>>153018387
>>153018488
>>153018817
>all this shit taste and normalfaggotry
Truly those who hate Hyouka are the worst

>>153019534
AND YOU KNOW THAT IT MEANS SO MUCH

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>le selemat pagi
???

>>153019685
Every time I consider arguing with someone about dialog in a show, posts like this remind how stupid the average anon is, and suddenly hearing people say something I like has bad writing doesn't bother me as much.

>>153019650
Ease up on the projecting, snowflake.

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>>153019608
>the others can keep on thinking it's shit because it's not a "real Gainax show"
No, it's shit because it's a less than mediocre mahou shoujo with shitty visuals. But nice try.

>>153019783
I'm not the one that thinks "I'm a database, a database can't draw any conclusion." is normal conversation.

>>153019783
>mentions Kiznaiver
>got reply about Kiznaiver
>it wasn't about Hyoka! It was about Pleiades!
Are you autistic?

>>153019679
No one said it was deep or the best anime ever made, YnS is just the best incest anime, that's all. As anime is pretty average with a good soundtrack.

>>153019620
>>153019763
You both have to go back.

>>153019839
>Teenage has a nickname
>Teenage makes a comment about it later
>"Fucking Kyoani!"

>>153019918
I wasn't the guy you were talking to, I just saw your post and got a kick out of it. Keep thinking on it, you'll get there eventually.

>>153017170
>>153018684
>What do you like about it?
The lovely character design? The inspiring direction and animation? The not-overused CG? The interesting characters? The solid writing? The only things below average are the backgrounds and music.
>It's so generic, it doesn't feel like a Gainax show in the slightest.
So you never liked the studio to begin with? How can you diss this but praise their previous work?

>>153019931
Stop pretending to be retarded.

>>153019608
>>153019788
Welp I meant to write <the others can keep on thinking it's shit without having watched it because it's not a "real Gainax show"> but I fucked up.

My point is there's no reason to try to push Pleiades just for more people like you who can't appreciate it to watch it.
That would also mean less "/a/ is a meanie he tricked me into watching this anime but I'm too dumb to understand it" OP.

>>153020092
>"/a/ is a meanie he tricked me into watching this anime but I'm too dumb to understand it"
Lazy shitpost, it can work for Hyouka but certainly not for Pleiades.
>>153020057
his is even lazier.

>>153019980
It's not a nickname, it's a catchphrase

>>153020301
>his is even lazier.
It's not really hard when the first guy can only come up with a buzzword template post.

>>153020301
>Lazy shitpost
The most glaring shitpost is here is OP. I used "understand" here just not to repeat "appreciate", you don't have to take it litteraly in the "understand the plot" meaning.

>>153019839
It is you pretentious fuck, this is japanese cartoons about high school kids not your avant garde clockwork experiments genesis
It is clear to me that your shit taste and jealousy for fictional characters comes entirely come pure idiocy and being a shitty normalfag. Surely you are woman

>>153020506
Lovely autistic rant, as expected from a Hyoukafag.

>>153019679
No one calls it some all-time deep masterpiece, nigger.

Remember the fun we used to have discussing astronomy with this show? And physics?

>>153020411
>Database isn't a nickname
You're not even trying anymore.

>>153016502
I think that was sarcasm

>>153020505
"I'm too dumb to understand it" is pretty self explanatory. What a presumptuous post.

>>153020418
Seems like a pretty accurate description of the show. Yours is just shitposting.

>>153020712
Call it presumptuous if you want. It's precisely my point that some people just can't appreciate it.
That doesn't necessarily mean they're dumb, but if they feel the need to make a thread about not liking a rec they were given, then yes they certainly are dumb.

>>153020881
Or maybe the show is just bad and not some holy grail whose greatness only a few enlightened ones can grasp.

>>153016214
OP is right - I remember a lot of anons saying this show was great.

>>153021032
Yeah I tried watching it while it was airing because the threads hyped it up to hell and back, but I honestly don't see what people see in it. I dropped it half way through and stopped caring. I can get liking the show, but pretending it's one of Gainax's best is flat out wrong.

>>153015884
It's not as good as old Gainax, but it's still better than everything Trigger has done.

>>153021241
It's worse than everything Trigger has done, and that includes Kiznaiver and all the Expo shorts.

>>153021285
Did you watch the actual TV series or just the OVA?

>>153021309
Both.

>>153021337
I assume you're one of those 'manime' subhumans then. Guess I can understand your shit taste in that case.

>>153020968
Maybe. I don't really care about your shit taste, I just think you should keep it low profile instead of seeming proud of it.

>>153021390
No, I always loved mahou shoujo. Pleiades is just as bad as it gets.
>>153021391
Why should I? Pleiades fans seem to be an irrelevant minority capable only of acting presumptuous and calling people stupid for "not getting it". No point in keeping low profile.

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>>153015884
I don't remember that well but she was actually making up ayy dialogs didn't she also 90% of this show is about astronomy and physics so your enjoyment should be proportional to your interest in them.

>>153021575
>Pleiades is just as bad as it gets
All you're saying with a post like this is that you've seen 20 whole annie maymays in your entire life. I mean even if you didn't like it there's so much worse out there.

>>153015884
>>153016797
>>153019620
>>153019763
Are people who dislike Houkago no Pleiades the same that dislike Hyouka, Sora no Woto and Nichijou?

>>153021724
I found Pleidas boring, but the other three you listed are among my all time favorites.

>>153021711
After 50 Creamy episodes, 60 Sakura episodes, 200 Doremi episodes, hundreds of Sailor Moon and Precure episodes and dozens others, I can safely say that Pleiades is some of the worst of the genre.

>>153021724
I like Nichjou, Hyouka is okay, Pleiades and SnW are bad.

>>153015884
Hidamari Sketch and NNB.

>>153021917
CCS is the best mahou shoujo so that's an unfair comparison.

Pleiades is like a 6.5/10 at worst so listing a bunch of really good shows to make a point that it's 0/10 trash isn't a good way to do so. Again, you're just making it obvious you haven't watched a lot of anime, instead only watching the good ones because you're still in the entry level phase.

>>153022043
I've been watching mahou shoujo since I was too young to read, since in my country it's practically the most beloved genre.
Have you seen Ransie? Tokyo Mew Mew? Mermaid Melody? My Melody? Tutu? Hime chan? Magica Emi?
And I've listed shows of all kinds of quality.

>>153021575
The best aspect of Pleiades is its great direction and writing. And it's not wrong to call it "subtle", so no wonder everyone can't appreciate it.

>>153021838
I can understand finding Pleiades boring. And the same goes for Hyouka, but in my opinion "boring" isn't this horrendous flaw that makes an anime automatically deserving of being called "shit". Both of those can be considered a bit boring but they have enough qualities to make up for it. And I would even say that being slightly boring is part of their charm, in particular in the case of Hyouka. After all the premise of Hyouka is "ordinary high-schoolers dealing with dull/mundane mysteries", it can't be super fast-paced with screaming seiyuu and flashy animation at every corner, that wouldn't make any sense.

>>153022043
>>153022183
That's the most retarded argument. Having watched a lot of shows isn't any proof of good taste or critical mind. People who watched X-thousand anime but still have shit taste are everywhere.

>>153022183
On the topic of Tutu, I didn't like it much at all actually, contrary to all the people here saying it's even as good as or better than CCS.

But whatever, it's just going to become a matter of subjective opinions at this rate. I thought you were saying Pleiades was trash compared to all anime but if you just think it's the worst mahou shoujo then I won't say anything.

>>153022334
>great direction
It's rather flat and uninteresting.
The horrendous CGI that forces the camera to stay away as much as possible during flight scenes doesn't help either.
>writing
I've seen better character drama in Doremi.

>>153022446
>Mahou Shoujotai Arusu
It's fucking shit.

>>153022334
The direction and writing great, though. There weren't any interesting character dynamics or chemistry, or word play, and the directing had absolutely nothing on Annoys old work. It was just a really plain show.

>>153019169
Yeah I love Kyoani too (I didn't know about /a/'s opinion on it at the time, nor cared).

Though the "cinematography" thread hyped me up afterwards but well.

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not sure if it counts BUT - anything by Shindo L or Neromashin

>>153022807
>There weren't any interesting character dynamics or chemistry
Maybe, I won't try to argue against that. I'm not saying that it's a masterpiece, it has its flaws.
>word play
What do you mean by that?
>and the directing had absolutely nothing on Annoys old work
I don't think that's a meaningful comparison. Anno would have never directed an anime like Pleiades to begin with. And while he can come up with genius ideas, he's also all over the place and doesn't seem to be able to make something as humble and well-rounded as Pleiades.
>It was just a really plain show.
Well, it is kinda plain in the sense that it simple and rather unambitious. But I prefer a well done plain show over an overblown wannabe-masterpiece.

>>153023351
You just said a whole lot of nothing, while agreeing "Yeah it's plain". Are you this
>>153022334
guy?

>>153023589
Of course I'm the same guy, I just responded to anon who quoted my post. Why would you ask?

Seriously, how long are you going to stay salty?
>It's better than everything Trigger
It is.

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>>153023734
Because you went from saying it had great direction and writing, to agreeing that it was really plain. Did you hit your head or something? Just say you thought the girls were cute and like space, and people might take you seriously.

is granblue any decent?
2hu/imas/kanc i'm fine with
i shit on ll though

>>153023589
>"Yeah it's plain"
If that's all you got from my post then you have serious reading comprehension problem.
Do you know we can argue without taking polar opposite stances on purpose?
I won't say Houkago no Pleiades has great character drama because it doesn't, I won't say that it's never boring in the slightest, or that the 3D looks fabulous. But it's good despite all of this.

>>153023873
But that's not a contradiction at all. Madoka was neither plain or boring for example but it had rather mediocre direction and writing (save a few good moments). On the other hand take Junkers Come Here, it's the very mundane story of a little girl worried by the imminent divorce of her parents and her childish crush on her onii-chan, yet it's one of the most mastefully directed and written anime ever made.
Also
>agreeing that it was really plain
here is what i actually said
>it is kinda plain in the sense that it is simple and rather unambitious
But keep on making wrong paraphrase it's really convincing.

Anyway I'm off to bed so I'll probably not respond to new posts.

>>153024262
>Simple and unambitious isn't plain
>Madoka didn't have good directing
Well thanks for confirming you're actually retarded, I guess.

>>153024338
>plain doesn't have several meanings and a negative connotation
>Madoka had good directing
So you can't appreciate directing and writing, I guessed as much given your opinion on Pleiades but now I'm sure of it.

>>153024520
Plain is plain, you fucking idiot. "Simple and unambitious" is the essence of plain. Pleidas was plain, and isn't even remotely close to one of Gainax's best. You also have no understanding what makes good directing.

>>153016797
Pretty much this. Its only redeeming aspects are its visuals and OST.
The mysteries and how they are dealt with are the definition of pretentiousness. It's a show about cringy teens that live in the most fashionable shithole ever. They are so bored they have to play make believe and in the process, they spout the most nonsensical purpley lines that a fedora tipping teenagers would say when trying to sound smart, utterly unaware they possess no wit whatsoever.

Hyouka was shit and you should feel bad if you find any merit in its story telling and dialogue, esp. if you're over the age of 16.

>>153024715
>I'm 18 and think I'm smarter than I actually am
Reading you loud and clear.

>>153015884
>typical Triggerfags can't appreciate good shows that don't have explosions every second
As sausaged.

>>153024715
I don't understand how you can write that about Hyouka. It's one of the least pretentious anime ever.
It's 24 episode that basically hammer the viewer with how boring, uneventful and predictable life actually is.

>>153024652
>You also have no understanding what makes good directing.
I'm curious to read your opinion on what makes good directing. I'll be happy to read that tomorrow.
A bunch of good and great scenes like in Madoka isn't enough to call it well directed as you can't ignore all of the very forgettable ones, the unnecessary exposition, and the bad balance of the whole series.

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>>153021724
Nichijou is garbage
The Selemat Pagi thing and the statue in the teachers locker are perfect examples of this shows non-humor.

>>153024882
Unable to refute a single criticism [ ]
>-but it's very smart and deep, I swear [ ]
Cannot express a single coherent thought to explain why it's supposedly good [ ]
>the original prose is a masterpiece, trust me I read moonrunes [ ]
Ad hominem [X]

Typical Hyouka apologist.

>>153025394
>selamat pagi isn't funny
But that's the joke. Yukko is an idiot who thinks it's funny, you're supposed to laugh at her, not at her joke.
>the statue in the teachers locker
I don't remember this one.

>>153025416
It's like I'm really on /v/.

>>153025311
That doesn't mean it's not pretentious. In fact, it shows the opposite in all of its arcs. The last episode is a great metaphor of Hyouka's essence or message, which is what you described in your post. You're shown how even grown respectable men are making a big fuss of something that is actually very silly (the bridge is closed, oh no! the festival will be an utter failure, shame on us). Everything is resolved when the pretty doll-faced girl walks by. It seems to imply beauty, in the end, is all that matters.

Sounds fairly simple right? Well, except it's not.
It takes a very obvious and basic premise (life is boring and uneventful) and uses every baroque pretense possible to distract you from that message. The MC's single affectation is being a lazy motherfucker (you are hammered with this) and his best friend thinks he's unable of analytical thought, because he's only a database xD. A teenage girl considers some doujin oneshot written by another teenager to be a literary masterpiece. The sister's face stays in the shadows and is made out to be some sort of mastermind (but mastermind of what exactly?). It has artificial and pompous dialogue throughout the series. Every single character makes a big deal out of everything, ranging from the chuuni mysteries being child's play to the retard (whose psyche is still in development) being told by a fellow teenage girl she's incapable of leading.
The film club arc has a bunch of teens doing interviews in a grandiose manner, only to evoke other mystery classics that did the interview schtick, because surely that will reinforce the notion it's a mystery series (let's just mimic Sherlock Holmes, that should work). It seems like the script writer's condition was so delicate her BEST FUCKING FRIEND couldn't give her a ring asking what she had in mind for the ending. So, everyone, let's mount a circus that will have the MC ending disappointed in how he manages said circus.

>>153025311
>A bunch of good and great scenes like in Madoka isn't enough to call it well directed as you can't ignore all of the very forgettable ones
it's got a pretty high ratio of memorable to forgettable parts. being a massive spectacle is why it blew up in the first place

>the unnecessary exposition
such as? it's more plot than character driven, but cutting anything out would make it incoherent

>and the bad balance of the whole series.
that's a nonsensical buzzword

>>153018426
To be fair, the whole thing is based on a "literary" club right? Like as in actual japanese literature and writing, so wordplay and translation seems like it would be pretty important.

Master of Martial Hearts but it was fun anyways.

>>153019958
Is Sora no Woto actually good though? Does it actually have a story or is it just SoL?

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>>153026346
>Drama presents mundane things as less mundane
Man, it's almost like this was actually an integral theme in one of the arcs.

>>153027617
SnW is top tier, and does world building better than most series. It also strikes an interesting balance between Sol and heavier drama without ever really sacrificing quality of either.

Pleiades was a masterpiece faggot