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So, I've always been a huge fan Urusei Yatsura and one of the things I heard back in the day was that Lum was actually not intended to be the main love interest for Ataru. It was actually supposed to be Shinobu, his violent sorta-girlfriend from early on, but the reason that Lum ended up as the main love interest was purely due to the fact that the fans absolutely fucking loved her. I'm bringing this up because now that I'm actually looking for evidence to support this claim I can't find anything. My question is, does anyone know if there's any truth to this rumor at all?

Also while we're on the subject, has this scenario ever happened in any other anime/manga series? Like, where the author was clearly setting up a romance but due to fan reaction either changed things up or even cancelled it entirely?
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>rainbow hair
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>>152953153

I prefer rainbow hair Lum, though green hair Lum is perfectly fine.

I mean rainbow hair would have been a motherfucking nightmare to animate, for one
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Yeah, I kinda thought that there wouldn't be an easy answer... it's not exactly something easy to google
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>>152953050
>Like, where the author was clearly setting up a romance but due to fan reaction either changed things up or even cancelled it entirely?
Hana Yori Dango. Author wanted generic nice boy to be the love interest, audience loved the rapey antagonist, so she switched the main love interest to him and sparked an even shittier generic archetype.
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>>152953050
NARUTO
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She was only supposed to appear once but the mangaka changed her mind.
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>>152954825

Sounds like Classic Rumiko attempting to make another easygoing manga but giving into the crazy.
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>>152953050
would love a real dub
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>>152957235

Don't spoil a good thing.
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>>152953050
It's pointless because romance is just used for comedic value just like it was in Ranma 1/2.
Whoever was supposed to be the main heroine is irrelevant since whatever relationship upgrade could happen will always end up resetting to the status quo the next episode.
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>>152957235

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRcxz1MSPd0
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>>152957302
Exactly, and that is why I always laugh at Akanefags who think they ended up getting married in Ranma 1/2, when it's plainly obvious they're never intended to reach that.
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I've heard that Naru wasn't actually supposed to be winner of Love Hina, but it was going to be Motoko, since she got way more developement with Keitaro.
I could be wrong though.
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>>152953050
>fan reaction either changed things up or even cancelled it entirely?

Not a fan reaction but Kanazawa lamented that she wanted to play a villain but was cursed with an adorable voice, So Nisio Made Snake evil in Bakemonogatari so she could play the bad guy.
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>>152957235
The Brits did a top tier one
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>>152957302
You're actually wrong. Urusei Yatsura's romance was a level above Ranma's, even if it didn't always maintain consistency. Refer to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFrzIdk-nao
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>>152953050
In the manga, Lum doesn't appear in the 2nd chapter and I think chapter 15, before going on to appear in all chapters afterwards. She was added to the animated adaptation of those chapters (which were out of order anyway).

Also, there are several changes overall that follow Lum going from one sided crush to clearly main love interest, like her not attacking or plotting against other girls just for jealousy anymore - and in the same way when Lum becomes the main girl other girls, aside from Shinobu in a couple of chapters and a one shot ghost, stop showing any interest in Ataru.

The Japanese wikipedia also mentions that Lum was intended to be just a guest character initially, rather than main heroine, although it doesn't give a source aside from her not appearing in the above chapters and her language being apparently pretty rough initially and softened when moved to heroine position.
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>>152960410

So, Lum got upgraded from Shampoo to love interest?

>>152954075

Damn it, that got me. Betas, not even in fiction.
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>>152960552

Speakng of Shampoo, I heard that the reason was kind of a huge cunt when she first shows up in the Ranma 1/2 manga was because Rumiko Takahashi wanted to make her extremely unlikable so that she wouldn't become Lum 2.0

Heck when Shampoo shows up again in the manga, she's basically a completely different person than when she first appeared. When she first shows up she's basically a stone-cold killer, later she's all giggly and bubbly

>>152957338

This really wouldn't surprise me at all
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Does /a/ even like Urusei Yatsura?
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Fun fact; Kasumi's personality being an "angel" was a construct of the tv adaptation the later Takahashi incorporated it into Kasumi's character in the Manga
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>>152963168

Does anyone DISLIKE Urusei Yatsura? I mean seriously, I can see people hating series like Ranma 1/2 or Inu Yasha, but I can't really imagine someone completely disliking it. At most I can imagine mild irritation

Then again this is the internet, people are champions of disliking things

>>152963430

How does she act early on? I can't even find my old Ranma 1/2 mangas

Kind of a shame Kasumi never really does anything in the series. Heck even Dr. Tofu disappears after a while (in the manga at least) so she REALLY has no point. Even Nabiki gets to do something, shit.
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>>152954075
What? No. The "nice" guy was the most popular character.
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Ichigo 100%. The author decided on Nishino over Aya despite having plans of making Aya win at the start because she felt Nishigo grew more as a character and something along the lines of "childhood is wanting to fuck Aya, adulthood is realizing Nishino is a better lay".
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>>152963430
She's literally just Kyoko without the character depth.
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>>152957334

I'm no Akanefag (in fact I kind of hate her) but I think it's made clear in the last manga chapter that they'll eventually end up together. I mean shit, Akane finally admits that she DOES want to get married to Ranma and even though Ranma is bribed into the marriage he still goes along with it. Sure the whole thing gets ruined, (because I mean that's the joke of the whole series) but I still think that the implication that they'll end up together comes through. Or at the very least, the two kind of accept their love for each other

Then again I'm a huge faggot

>>152963651

I always thought it was funny as a kid that Shampoo and Lum basically look like the same character. Kinda act the same too

Come to think of it Rumiko Takahashi pretty much just copied some characters wholesale from series to series huh? Urusei Yatsura and Ranma 1/2 in particular have a lot of characters that are basically copies of each other. And Inu Yasha is pretty much just Ranma but he's also half demon
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>>152963620
Fuck Kawashita, I'm still mad.
Aya is love.
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>>152963523
She a bit condescending
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>>152963620

Shit, really? To be totally honest Ichigo 100% was on my manga reading list but I was always putting it off, I'm actually kinda interested now I read this.

I hate romance in manga or anime where there's a love triangle but it's painfully obvious where the love triangle will end up. So I think I might actually like this.
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>>152963651
Not really at all. At best they both wear aprons and sweep.
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Anna being Yoh's fiance was actually supposed to just be sort of like that standard joke thing between childhood friends, but she was so overwhelmingly popular that it became part of the story and she got upgraded in screentime
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>>152964589
Why is this thing so popular? The art is ugly.
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>>152964589

Is Shaman King any good? I've been watching Hunter X Hunter and I heard a lot of people saying that they hope Shaman King gets the same treatment. I've never given it a shot but it has an actual ending and supposedly also has a decent romantic subplot, so I'm interested
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>>152967063
Nah.

It "ended" with "Haha, I actually have not planned a ending." by the Author.

Could have been much better. The pieces were all there.
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>>152967196

It genuinely shocks me how often this happens. It reminds me of Yankee no Megane-chan, like 200+ fucking chapters and then it just ends with the biggest fucking dry hump of an ending ever. And the author basically just shrugged and said "whatcha gonna do?"

Incidentally as much as I like Hunter X Hunter I have a feeling that's the ending it's going to get as well
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>>152967338
Shaman King Author actually wrote that.

In text.

~ "I have no idea where to go."

That is a special kind of shittiness.
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>>152960410
I can kinda see the shape of an abandoned plot if I squint. Besides the development of Lum and Shinobu eventually moving on, Ataru's supernaturally bad luck also had greater focus in the beginning before weirdness just started happening to him as a consequence of his personality and who he knew. Got jack for evidence, but it's a good enough story that I want to believe this was almost a plot about a guy's girlfriend getting mad at him for accidentally cute aliens and mermaids every week.
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>>152957338
Yeah, it was supposed to end up with Motoko stealing Keitaro from his wedding or some shit like that. It even was referenced on the manga ending.

However Naru was supposedly based on Akamatsu's wife, so he had to backpedal hard.
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>>152963430
Too add to that, Nabiki was nicer than Kasumi in the manga (the early volumes)
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>>152954235
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>>152970928
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>>152970928

Anyone who thought Naruto/Hinata was NOT going to be a thing was just hopelessly delusional. I mean even at her absolute best Sakura was barely plot significant

Oh and Hinata LITERALLY DIED FOR NARUTO while also confessing that she was in love with him using her last breaths. I mean shit if Sakura won after that I would have been incredibly shocked
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Did Macross 7 ever have a canon ending for the love triangle? Mylene clearly loves Basara and Gamlin but even after dynamite it's just the three of them piloting fighter jets in outer space.
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>>152963772
>Come to think of it Rumiko Takahashi pretty much just copied some characters wholesale from series to series huh? Urusei Yatsura and Ranma 1/2 in particular have a lot of characters that are basically copies of each other. And Inu Yasha is pretty much just Ranma but he's also half demon

She has few designs, but they're tweaked a bit to make them identifiable through their quirks.

You could call Rinne yet another Ranma, but his miser-bum-yet always a decent person attitude makes him stand out.
Mamiya Sakura has a Kagome-like design, but instead of "tragic heroine" she's the AMAZING deadpan comedy character as a heroine of sorts.

Rumiko can't escape the fact that she's a gag specialist. The jokes come first in each character's design.
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>>152972209
She's like 14. Probably better than they didn't go for a clear ending when the romantic interests are well above drinking age.
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>>152970928
Yep, this sounds right. If Sasuke was created to have a rival and foil, Sakura was there to be the girl of the trio. The romantic destiny of the characters were established early. And you could tell he was teasing with the prospects while Sauce was gone but stayed the course like >>152971822
said. Then he sunk the shit out of NaruSaku.

Seriously, it would be sad if there wasn't NaruHina. Arguably it could have been done better, but it's one of the things that was right about the series. It's on the mangaka that SasuSaku exists and is a wreck.
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>>152974110
>t's on the mangaka that SasuSaku exists and is a wreck.

No, people are retarded on their own.
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>>152974441
That's true but sorry, I was talking about the actual relationship there. Everyone but the most delusional fangirls think it's rather ugly; some Sakurafags even said they 'matured' and moved from shipping her with Sasuke to shipping her with Naruto.

How relationships are written, that's on the mangaka and anyone who has influence like an editor. Shippers will see what they want to see.
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