Who will win the Holy Grail in Fate/Strange Fake?

>>152840455
No one, like usual.

>>152840455
What's the point of SF cranking up the powerlevels so high? We got serious Gil and Enkidu, pseudo Archer Heracles, The motherfucking Pale Rider, two OP Hassans, and who knows what else is left.

>>152840879
It's fun.

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>>152840879
I want Spooky Hassan to win, but Hassans are only allowed to win in GO.

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Best boy

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>>152840879
>he thinks SF's powerlevels are high

Cute doggo from GO would mop the floor with all of them combined

>>152842980
>Hassans only allowed to win in GO
If this was true Serenity wouldn't get BTFO by Mashu when asking for a head pat.

>>152840455
Nobody wins the HGW. Not the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or the Fake.

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>>152844066
>Nobody wins the HGW

No one because Nasu put Fate in unofficial embargo because of the events in Grand Order. Narita even said he's waiting on Nasu to finish before writing SF again.

>>152844199
How can you win something. When you don't even exist?

>>152844408
OY VEY

>>152840455
Flat, who will proceed to waste it on something minor and pointless.

>>152840455
Gil will probably be the last suriving Servant.
Honestly it'd be great if Narita did a bait and switch and had this Grail properly grant any wishes, making it the only one in the series that works as advertised despite being the "Fake" war.

>>152846207
Fate GO Grail actually grant Roman and his master their wish though.

>>152846597
and because of their wish, the multiverse turn to shit

>>152846597
It was stupid and barely explained. Also you didn't get any of the actual war there.

>>152840455
FUCK YOU

>>152846731
not really, Goetia have been planning to do this after Solomon's death. The reason it didn't happen to other universe is due to Levi killing himself except the GO-verse

>>152847017
true, but hey its OP Solomon and its like a Schrodinger cat to everyone else as they lied saying Saber won instead of them.

How OP would pale rider be if it wasn't stuck to some comatose girl?

>>152847223
I mean, he's only "stuck" in that he will do whatever she wants.
He can still freely wander around Snowfield and outskirts from what we've seen, and is in a separate dream realm where he should be unkillable.
I don't see how they'll take him out without some asspull, or most likely just killing the loli. Would probably have to distract him so he goes far away while someone gets close to kill the master.

>>152847289
>is the master in the city mongrel?
>yes Gilgamesh
>not for long she isn't
>EA half mast

>>152840455
Hey buddy I think you've got the wrong door, leather club is two blocks down.

>Gilgamesh
>Enkidu
>Pale rider
>dead ancestor and strange assasin

Why is th power level of this grail war so high compared to previous ones?

>>152847914
Don't forget the Saber that can excaliblast with a twig and sane Heracles.

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>>152840455
No one, they fuck up something like always and they would try to prevent something terrible as usual.
Blonde Ayaka even not the real Ayaka, prepare for something really weird. Like she can be a ghost or she can travel through universes and shit.
I think fake rider will be dead first, he already started to infect all the city and Flat already found his master in hospital.

>>152848078
>saber in strange/fake
When?
>Heracles
WHEN

>>152847914
>Pre all this shit Nasu said 5th war had above average servants
Sometime i dont even know what above average anymore with this guy

>>152848204
if the 5th war was above average (Gil, saber and berserker) then this one is insane, which actually makes sense considering

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>>152848135
Volume 2.

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>>152848135
>WHEN
High point of Vol.3 before he got turned into Sasuke

>>15284045
Anything goes with Narita.

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>>152847814
FUCK youu~

>>152844299
> Narita even said he's waiting on Nasu to finish before writing SF again.
Wrong. That was only for the Babylonia order because Narita was expecting Gil/Enkidu interaction in case he had to change or add things between them in the upcoming volumes. Instead he got Kingu and the era after Enkidu's death with sage Gil. He was not disappointed though because he said he enjoyed the order and hinted on his Twitter that next volume SF volume might include an Enkidu flashback and something about his final ascension form. He will also rearrange stuff.

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>>152840455

>>152840455
>>152847814
>>152850272
>>152850410
Gil and Enkidu edits of that whole scene when?

>>152850065
I think he'll be something like a mid-tier boss again since he and his master are so obvious villains.

>>152843930
Fou is a cat.

>>152844408
>not exist
>created human order
>magecraft (thus holy grail wars)
>age of men

Hi, reddit. Did you forget a nip BTFO you with the shitty translation you put?

>>152846731
Who the fuck tell you this? Their wish had nothing to do with Goetia, EOP retard. Their wish saved the multiverse, drooling moron.

>>152840455
Aoba.

>>152852428
He doesn't deserve such a shitty treatment.
Heck almost all FSN servants have multiple versions of themselves and their stories fleshed out yet Heracles can't even have a showing in his proper form, even in GO.
It's triggering me super hard to be honest

>>152847017
>Also you didn't get any of the actual war there.
Solomon pretty much easily crushed all the Servants. He was willing to kill himself if Marisbilly wanted to open a path to the Root too.

>>152852555
>even in GO.
You shouldn't lose hope when it's far from over.

>>152852590
I shouldn't but the fact that we got Okeanos instead of a proper Greek chapter makes me lose it.
There's still Achilles, Chiron, Paris, Diomedes, Odysseus, Theseus and many others left but I honestly doubt we'll ever see a proper Greek order. And I doubt we haven't seen Heracles because of something like him being a Grand servant that's saved for plot reasons as much as I would like it.

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>>152846731
In case it wasn't too complex for your peanut brain to follow the story: Goetia started to get his plan moving when Solomon died thousands of years ago. Since he was in the grand time temple, possessing Solomon's corpse, he was outside time. Flauros was in charge of 2016 incineration which was a domino effect. In most timelines, something happens before Flauros can enact this, in most cases Lev kills himself. However, in FGO he fully possessed him, and started his shit, but he failed to kill Roman because he decided to chat up with Guda. His possession has shit to do with Roman or Olga's daddy - it is a one in a million circumstances. But conveniently, in the timeline that Flauros succeeds, Chaldea is fully operational to stop his buddies and him, and Roman exists to fuck Goetia up.

If Solomon hadn't become human, he wouldn't give a fucking damn about what happens to everyone because he's an empty man without will or thoughts of his own. He needed 10 years of humanization to get his resolution like this. This isn't a complete accident because Marisbilly had acquired the only item that can summon Solomon - his ring- which in turn was part of God's instruction to Solomon before his death - to misplace his ring for a mysterious reason. This was a failsafe mechanism that GOETIA had no fucking clue about. He didn't even consider that Solomon would make a wish and become human. He was completely dumbstruck over this and in fucking denial. Because get this, Goetia was unbeatable unless Solomon was fully alive and returned to push his shit, so he wasn't scared of his Heroic Spirit who is weaker than he who is possessing his corpse. But he didn't count of his first Noble Phantasm, which he can only perform with the ring he missed which he got back thanks to Marisbilly which could also defeat him by removing his gifts and miracles.


Read the fucking story before opening your mouth to yap nonsense again. Because it was the fucking opposite of what you said.

>>152852622
Theseus appeared in a short story with Asterios past in Type Ace. He's a cool guy.

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>>152840455
I wonder how Gil would react if he finds out that Faker's a servant class now.

What qualifies a hero to materialize as a Faker servant anyway? can Lancelot qualify as one?

>>152852622
>I shouldn't but the fact that we got Okeanos instead of a proper Greek chapter makes me lose it.
Why? There could be a thematic scenario about it. There won't be more singularities and now the fucking Clock Tower is messing around, they would probably ban the time travel, but this doesn't mean campaigns or events or part 2 won't release more servants.

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>>152852798
She acted as a body double.

So probably someone known to pretend as someone more popular?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_des_Armoises

One of the most possible candidates, following this logic.

I'm surprised Type Moon didn't make a Jeanne clone out of her yet.

>>152852946
>Jeanne clone
Jeanne is qualified as Artoria face in FGO, so she's just a Saber clone.

>>152852517
"Ars Nova: The Time of Parting has Come, He is the One Who Lets Go of the World" is the first Noble Phantasm of Solomon. It is the crystallization of the legend in which Solomon returned his rings to the heavens of his own will, and the only act he performed as a "human" hero. The Noble Phantasm possessed by the true Solomon and not Goetia. A poem of farewell in which he lets go of every accomplishment, miracle, and magecraft.

Upon activation, he returns God's gifts back to the heavens and loses his clairvoyance. The effect is Solomon's death. In other words, the self-destruction of the 72 Demon Gods. It is a fail-safe designed for the case in which magecraft became an "evil" for humanity in the far future. Once activated, every trace of Solomon vanishes from this world ― even on the Throne of Heroes.

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>GOshit

GOfags really need to fuck off. This thread isn't about that trash, stop bringing it up.

>>152853311
It's useless anon, they'll just keep arguing with you because they think anyone wants to hear about their crappy game.
Best ignore them and just talk about SF.

Do we know if we'll get a SF adaptation at all, let alone by which studio?

>>152853914
If Apocrypha got one then SF will get one too. It's just a matter of time now that TM is rolling in cash

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>>152853962
Better be Ufo (or some other good studio) and not some shit like the Deen one. If they fuck up Gil vs Enkidu I will be mad.

>>152854041
They'd sooner fuck up things like Heracles' summoning than a fight. In the end it depends on the director

>>152853962
I think they running with adaptations now because of FGO, but there is only one SF servant in FGO so far. I guess we can get SF anime eventually, but not very soon. The story even barely started anyway, they summoned last servant in 3rd book.

>>152854963
The timespan that took Narita to release 3 volumes was enough for all of Zero to be released back in the day.
The main issue is that Narita is tied up with a bunch of other projects and he's working for a rival company essentially, so when Nasu decides to pull stuff like Dantes suddenly being in GO Narita is left blindsided.
I only hope that people won't be tired of Fate by the time SF will be finished and ready for animation because it's fucking great

>>152853231
t.
reddit

You're fucking stupid or just pretending that wasn't mistranslated and a Japanese guy had to step in to BTFO the redditor?

The whole fucking THEME of FGO is "protect Solomon's beloved legacy" retard. The fucking THRONE AND RINGS are floating about in the end and still remain. So fuck off with the shitty translation. Unless you wanna retcon everything in Nasuverse because Solomon created Magecraft. FATE wouldn't exist without him.

>>152853231
He lets himself go and returns to God for he is God's Archetype, anon. Solomon explicitly tells to Goetia he's going back to God. That's it. So when he returns, in that moment (not before - or it'll explode Nasuverse with a Paradox because the Age of Men is Solomon's creation), the agent of God's miracles-will go with him. That destroys the demon gods and cancel the incineration.

That's all the effect. Solomon wasn't retconned or else (you) would have died in the beginning. As would be Mashu. Everyone remembers him. Gilgamesh calls him "great king". But the sloppy reddit translation that you copied probably doesn't make it clear, because clearly you're a secondary who didn't play the game or noticed the ending scene which has Solomon's throne and rings still around, a message which appears when you try to access to the Grand Temple. To understand what he did, you should have paid attention to what Solomon was and what he said could men do as maximum achievement.

>>152848204
Well, most of the 5th war Servants seem superior to their 4th war equivalents, ability wise.

Since Fate Zero aired I've felt like TM milking Fate was a great idea, as I really enjoy most spin-offs and concepts. But now I realized that the only good ones are the ones Nasu isn't involved in. Fate Extra is awful (ignoring CCC, because it's not translated), FGO is just a milkcow and that's pretty much all Nasu's done.

I really feel like Nasu should leave Fate to other authors and work on the rest of the Nasuverse, unless he wants to do a Fate story that really ties into the universe instead of being its own thing, very separated from everything else.

>>152858162
yes, leave Fate to another authors, like Sakurai

>>152858597
Preferably good ones, like Narita and Urobuchi. They are more in line with what Fate was originally about.

>>152850065
>that part where he's sniping at Gilgamesh's loli master and Gil has to protect her

I giggled.

>>152858162
>unless he wants to do a Fate story that really ties into the universe instead of being its own thing,
That's Grand Order

>>152859235
Grand Order is shit though, more like a lore book instead of an actual good story. Doesn't help that it's a mobage.

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>>152840455
was this the single greatest scene in animated Fate to date?

>>152859350
Dunno, but the worst is definitely the butchered Saber vs Berserker in Zero. Ruined the adaptation for me, and shows how many secondaries there are out there.

>>152859263
>more like a lore book instead of an actual good story
Except it constantly shits all over existing lore as well.

>>152859065
>He can snipe people no problem from 20km away while having a cloth over his fucking head
No wonder we'll never see him sane because he'd be undefeatable. Making him evil and cocky is the perfect way to set-up a loss, as was making him a mad retard in FSN.

Anyone else hate FGO? It's a shitty mobage, yet it has a lot of relevant plot to the Nasuverse. I'd love for it to get an adaptation to another proper medium, but based on the anime, it's an awful story. I've heard it gets good later, but I'm still very disappointed.

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I only want Enkidu to win Gil's dick.

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>>152861238
I want them both to be executed because they've hogged the spotlight enough

>>152859461
What do you mean by "butchered"? It wasn't particularly good, but the fight itself was barely featured. The key parts of the episodes wherein it transpired were Kiritsugu and Kotomine, and Gilgamesh and Iskandar. It had no *time* to be good.

>>152862164
I think that was his point.

>>152862237
Fair enough.

>>152862164
It was a CGI fest, and they'd clearly ran out of the budget they had used on previous Berserker fights. They didn't properly adapt what happened, changed how it ended to give more credit to Saber and skipped Saber half turning into her Alter form.

Besides, a lack of time isn't an excuse to why it was bad, only an explanation at best. After having an entire episode dedicated to Rin there's no excuse really.

>>152862256
I can only imagine the Rin episode was intended as fanservice so idiots would buy the series.

I read the original VN, but I never looked at the Zero VN. Is there really that much difference from the Zero anime?

>>152862480
It's an LN, not a VN. It's very similar, but being a novel there's a lot more insight to stuff that's glossed over in the anime. It's better, so if you like Zero you should read it.

>>152862480
*Zero LN

>>152843930
Why would anyone compare anything to Grand Order?

>>152840518
/thread