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Chapter's been translated
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waiting for a post...
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>>152792980
Here you go
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>>152792316
Magi is now a boss rush videogame
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>>152793650
>It's a "villain's philosophy makes more sense than the protagonists' but it's hand-waved with emotional rhetoric" chapter
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>>152794202
Sense suck so much cock for being so pathetically behind.
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>>152793390
Edgebros so cool.

>>152794202
Thanks anon. I'm glad Judar is getting his moment.
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>>152792316
>we have to defeat 7 versions of Sinbad
I bet they're not even his final form.
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We Saint Seiya/Shaman King now
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>>152794202
Depraved Judal is going to win over Sinbad's djinn on the topic of "submitting to fate or overcoming fate"? Maybe they'll do it off-screen or something.
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>>152794786
>Maybe they'll do it off-screen or something.
I fucking hope not. If this is the final battle then I want to see all the action.
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I've been meaning to ask. What is with the boxes placed over the actual speech bubbles?
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So what's Arba doing?
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>>152794983
Thinkin bout ill illah
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>>152794976
Speed translation
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How do you see these fights going?
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>>152794526
Sure thing.
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>>152792316
At least we get to see his remaining Djin Equips.

>>152792377
I missed the last chapter. Why is Sinbad playing this out like a bond villain?

>>152793026
Fucking hell 14yo Sinbad is still forcing a 2v1

>>152793859
He's not wrong about Solomon's world though since it mirrors how things work in our world. Everyone has freedom, but those in power lord it over the masses and strip people of their rights. So which is better, a world where everyone has personal freedom but lives can be lived unfulfilled or in suffering? Or a world where free will is gone and only the singular direction of an omnipotent ruler exists?

Personally I hate the idea of my mind not being my own so Sinbad can go kick rocks.

>>152794741
The Patch boss rush in SK was really lackluster though.
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>>152793945
So, they basically have to TnJ in order to win?
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>>152796767
>So which is better, a world where everyone has personal freedom but lives can be lived unfulfilled or in suffering? Or a world where free will is gone and only the singular direction of an omnipotent ruler exists?

The latter, easily.

Life is inherently suffering. I'd give up my humanity in a heartbeat to take the pain away
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>>152797839
>I'm a pussy
Is what you're basically saying.
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>>152796767
>The Patch boss rush in SK was really lackluster though.
Sure. I'm just saying Magi seems to have taken inspiration from these series in this fight.
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>>152794375

They think TL is an art when all everyone wants is translations ASAP to know what's happening
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>it's fine to overthrow such a system and take our destiny in our own hands
>but not if it means we also die
>that's mutual loss
>that's not beneficial
>because we have dignity as human beings who have lived through this suffering and endured to this point, we have an obligation to preserve ourselves
>therefore no solution to overthrow fate is tolerable unless it includes our survival

Done. Where's my prize? Also shotabad a cute. Cute!
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>>152799135
Judar doesn't seem like the type to give out profound quotes. Instead, he'd probably say something more along the lines of

>You're boring me with this drivel. Just die already you little faggot
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>>152799200

Of course judar would say something dumb and edgy. My point was that it's an easy argument to refute.

Why is judar such a piece of shit and why couldn't he stay dead? I want scheherazade back.
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>>152799358
>I want scheherazade back.
What, you don't like this cute trap?
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>>152799519
Why are Magis so sexual?
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>>152797912
>I'm a selfish naive idealist who thinks just because life worked out for me, it's totally fine all those others get fucked up.

Is what you're saying,anon. There is no correct answer to this question. It's either live with uncertainty that even if you try your best, even if you do everything correctly and morally, even if you try to be the nicest person ever, It could all be for nothing, is that acceptable, is going through all that to die without accomplishing a damn thing an acceptable life to live? Why should life be dictated by "luck" or "destiny" or just "fate" instead of how good someone is? There are evil fucks in this world right now who will never ever pay for their crimes, they'll live and die in luxury, while someone who is kind and jest will die a senseless death.
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>>152800628
Why does Alibaba have birthing hips?
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>>152801129
You are 100% right. And honestly, if I wasn't so invested in my own identity and ego I would be more open to the idea of "paradise" in this context except for the whole dying part. It's one of the reasons I have a hard time grappling with the afterlife I was raised to believe in. Being conscious, but not having any desires and only singing the praises of my God sounds so boring and I can't see myself being happy with that. I'd rather go and experience all the things in life I missed out on (books, movies, video games) or fuck off and experience all of existence from the beginning as some disembodied entity.

Ironically enough, despite the uncertainty of life I would rather have what I have now in spite of all the problems I have and all the hardships I have endured. I'm a quarter of a century old, my country's cost of education is so high that I'll be saddled with debt for years. I didn't even finish the degree because I got so depressed I gave up and am just now trying to finish after years out of school. And I work a job that is fine, but I'm just making ends meet and I'm kind of living month to month. But despite all this, I still have this almost perverse attachment to the life I have been given. I only have one and I still have the chance to make things better. That hope is more important to me that the idea of guarenteed happiness because I can't really grasp a "perfect" world or one with a singular drive [/blog]

Under the system of solomon there are people who will never get a break. Never succeed on a grand scale. And whose lives may amount to dying painfully and young because of the actions of people they will never meet. The corrupt keep themselves in power and the populus lose more and more rights and freedoms as technology and culture progress and change. It's a shit deal for a lot of people and those who have luxury may have them at the expense of other people's expenses (magic academy)

1/2
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>>152801746
When Solomon first created the new system. It was in response to a structure that didn't favor anyone because all existence was food for God. And the world was on the brink of ruin with no chance of survival. He made his system because of the enslavement that he had witnessed, and the inequality that persisted because of differences.

His new system allowed for the same thing to happen again except the differences became cultural instead of strictly racial. (I really need to go back and re-read Alma Torran). What Sinbad is doing now is trying to make a new world in response to the current systems problems, and colored by his life and philosophies. He wants an adventure, something to always keep on the horizon to aspire too. Punching down every god and powerful being isn't his end goal, just a step on the road.

The real question here is whether or not he should be allowed to take everyone with him? Should he be able to kill every living person in order to fuel this ascension? Because Solomon ultimately did get consent, Sinbad removed that option when he started fucking with the Ruhk. You could argue that Solomon got easy consent because the world was literally falling apart but I think most people genuinely wanted a more balanced world.
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>>152801902
>Sinbad removed that option when he started fucking with the Ruhk

That's where it gets interesting

In this universe, are sentient beings anything more than an aggregate of rukh? If rewriting the rukh rewrites one's personality, can the phenomena of "self" or "free will" really be said to exist?
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>>152802579
>are sentient beings anything more than an aggregate of rukh
Technically no since Rukh is not only the building block of reality, but it functions as the karmic system for life. The identity of people are attached to the Rukh that makes them up and upon their passing that form is recycled.

>If rewriting the rukh rewrites one's personality, can the phenomena of "self" or "free will" really be said to exist?
Maybe yes? Self can most definitely exist even if that self can be altered by altering the rukh. I don't know if you are talking about a specific psychological model of Self, but you most definitely see characters that possess identity and individuality.

Does the fact that "self" can be made mutable dismiss it from every existing or does it just mean that "self" in magi is a somewhat fragile construct?

Free will on the other hand is hard to pin down because by default, everyone in Magi is either black rukh or white rukh. The former is informed by a lovecraftian diety that wishes for all things to be consumed by it and manifests in the current world when someone wants to go against fate...the fate created by the later rukh. White Rukh carries the will of the architect which can change depending on who is sitting in the cockpit. So really, everyone is marching to the rhythm of whoever has the baton. I think however, there are more agreeable terms under which to live.

I don't know if Free will can be said to exist in Magi but I would argue that under Solomon, more chances to define "free will" existed than under any other.
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