How to fix the Tsundere

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But tsunderes are fine. There are good tsunderes out there.

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>>152759469
Stella is a good tsundere though.

>>152759469
Once it starts being a character arc in romance instead of bipolar otaku bait.

>>152759469
tsudenre is the essence of moe culture

>>152759469
Stop the Houki clones that are killing anime and tsundere.

>>152759528
Also this.

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>>152759528
>yo yo behavior
>good
It's shit if it's not a growth.

>>152759530
This has to be bait. Almost everything is upside down.

>>152759469
Tsundere are fine don't need fixing. Only the small percentage of bad tsundere should be weeded out. Bad ones like Stella.

>>152759617
Don't even bother
Arguing with /a/ about this is about as useful as trying to convince an SJW that something isn't sexist because it doesn't conform to their beliefs.

>>152759530
I feel like Shana was unfairly put in the bottom because she's voiced by KugiRie. Shana was never really that much of a tsundere and she pretty much goes full dere.

>>152759528
"Modern Tsundere" is the real shit and basically a fundamental misunderstanding of how tsunderes are supposed to work but consistently lapped up by closet femdoms and 2dfags who have no goddamn idea how not-cute temperamental and bipolar women are.

>>152759585
Would it be more accurate to call them Motoko clones since Houki wasn't around until much later?

>>152759469
Don't let them win.

>>152759819
/a/ doesn't have an idea about how women work? Call the fucking News we got a hot story here!

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>>152759469
Use the official guide. .

>>152759844
That's technically true, but Houki is more infamous so the insult sticks better.

>>152759844
>>152760120
Nice try Narutards. Naru is the cancer shit like Houki is modeled after.

>>152759528
Serizawa Fumino is the worst Tsundere I've ever seen and I dropped the show because of her.

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>>152759530
>>152760089
Learn the Real Difference

>>152760276
I was tsundere for Houki. Couldn't stand her at first, but started to like her late in season 1 and more as season 2 and the OVAs went along.

Both extremes of her were more apparent in the LNs, but to be fair Ichika felt even more dense than in the anime too.

>>152759528
Is Erina even a tsundere anymore

>>152760276
>ponytail
>tall
>sword
>volent
>modern tsundere
>wants to get stronk
Motoko is literally Houki.

>>152760423
I'm alright with this
>>152760566
They're both shit. Love Hina was shit

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>>152759585
Hated Hater Faggot how you dare comparing Houki with Slutella
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>>152760276
>>152760474
Years later and a lot of people still cant admit Houki is the Best

>>152760712
Fuck off and die, ESL. Houki is a violent psycho

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>>152760712
Stella got her man in what? like three episodes? So about an hour?

Houki's what? six years in and still working on it with no hope in sight?

>>152760712
>ESL-kun
Oh hey, it's THK's butt buddy

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>>152759469

Shut up imouto.

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>>152759469
The problem is they're always paired with some wimpy dude. They need a male lead that will take charge and not have any of their shit. Women eat that sort of thing up, right?

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>>152760877
>s2 never

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>>152760804
Stella is truly perfect.

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>>152760952
>Stellashittier samefag and phone

>>152759469
I'd say no physical violence is a good first rule

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>>152759469
Sorry to disappoint you but you can't fix something that's inherently bad.

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>>152759469
You can't fix something that isn't broken. Tsundere is perfected 2D moe.

>>152761140
Nope.

>>152761140
Hey man, I'd take Stella over Houki anyday

>>152759585
>Houki clones

I don't get this obession calling everything Houki clone. The angry ponytail girl existed long before her. Not to mention people seem to forget the original super abusive tsundere's Akane and Naru

>>152761372
Some of those ponytail sword girls are way fucking better than Houki too. Houki shouldn't be a base-line average, she should be an example of how to write a completely psychopathic bitch

>>152760423
I like how these pics always show how fucking stupid people like you are. Horrible tastes and several of the girls aren't even tsunderes.

Which is better?

Physically violent or Verbally violent?

>>152760423
Lisha a shit

>>152761372
Houki is so shitty, people remember her well. IS' success meant more Houki clone followed, and so here we are.

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>>152761439
Both in moderation and balance is best.

>>152761439
Either is pretty bad. You'd think verbally might be better,l it's only words and you can ignore it. But some people have the wit and a way with words that can wreck your ego or turn (you) physically violent.

lose-lose no matter what.

>>152761372
Akane was horrible. Houki is positively tame and obedient compared to her.

>>152759530
Stella is shit and so is your chart, THK.

>>152761598
That chart is mostly fine. Rin and Shana should be up and Stella out. Other than that it's agreeable.

>>152761474
>IS' success meant more Houki clone followed

That's like saying IS' success gave us more twintail chinese or small and emotion stunted or ojou-sama or reverse trap with binded breasts and other overused archtypes.

Houki is just another girl in the list. She didn't influence any more than normal.

>>152761657
>mostly
Nope. It's exact opposite.

>>152760566
Shinonono Houki
1 - Beautiful Japanese
2 - Voluptuous
3 - Devout
4 - Jeaolus Lover
5 - Cute when she is sweet and Kind
6 - Kendo expert
7 - Double Ponytail
8 - Apart of Ling and Charlotte she can cook
9 - Sexy
10 - If you are masochist, Houki It is the most appropriate for you
Literally Perfect

>>152761774
>1 - Beautiful Japanese

Any japanese girl that is that good looking is going to be in AV.

>>152761774
Motoko fits most of that too.

>>152761839
Should be the other way around- Houki is Motoko. Both were my favorites- the sort of girl you have to work hard to get with, but once their guard is down, they'd be excellent waifu material.

>>152761879
Too abusive. That's the type of wife that will nag you to death or scream at you if you try to have any life outside of her.

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>>152761831
DID　YOU　SAY 「AV」？

>>152760804
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>>152760952
Slutella a Furious Cunt she only gets that jerk of Ikki because she is a Generic Submisive Slut Shitcrap
>>152760743
No and Kill yourself also that is Laura, Wow is incredible how Houki is hated so wrong
>>152760806
>>152761431
Pathetic Miserable Unhappy, Stupid Idiot, You two are an Autistic Retarded, Ignorant Hypocrite, Hater Faggot with a Horrible Shit Taste

>>152762091
So...like a 3D wife?

>>152762231
It's like I'm reading a kid whose trying to piece together all the profanity his non-existent parents used.

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Bring back our tsundere loli queens would be a good start.

>>152762231
This posting style needs more ALL CAPS and it could be /a/'s version of the Iron Sheik's Twitter account.

>>152761458
>Lisha a shit
Slukelleton Faggot, Celeshitia Faggot
Whoruka Faggot, whoever you are only you are a Sad and Pathetic Hater Faggot Shitty

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>>152762407
Hahahahaha. 12 year old spergs I swear

>>152762231
>random string of insults

I'm sorry you have no taste and can't tell which girl is and is not actually tsundere. Little lone tell the differance between a good and bad one. Also thank you for proving my point in your stupidity.

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>>152762407

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>I was there too see the rise of THK

>>152761839
>>152760566
Sameguy
>>152760644
Calm down Hater Faggot
Houki will be irritable and violent with Ichika but she not was always like that with him

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>>152762279
That doesn't really care because all these words describe you completely

>>152763052
At least I type with some level of coherency compared to you, ESL

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>>152762231
is this nigga for real or is this the least subtle falseflagging ever

>>152763174
He's ESL

>>152763174
You should check To Love-ru threads once in a while to see him in full action.

>>152763264
what about those threads makes him go full tilt?

>>152763356
His waifu Yui and his autistic hatred of Momo, Yami and Nana. He started posting in those threads first and expanded to the rest of /a/ recently.

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>>152763052
Oh noes! Your string of childish insults perfecttly defines me over the internet and has clearly destroyed my ego.

Alas I'll never be able to go on living now that my true nature has been revealed by a child.

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>>152763264
>Defending an unstable cunts like louise, kirino, haruna (kwzdk) nana, yami and slutella and you still accept that, You are the definition of shit

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>>152763446
This is more about you as a person being full of shit than whatever nonsense you attempt to write about fictional characters

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to me Mio is my favorite. and in the upcoming volume she will win the MC. (they will finally do it)

>>152763395
That sarcasm in your answer is the necessary proof that I'm right about you and the others

>>152763446
>Defending an unstable cunts like louise, kirino, haruna (kwzdk) nana, yami and slutella

Don't like louise (reminder author died via divine retrubution for creating shit), krino, or haruna. Nana is tolerable but i'd rather not deal with. Yami is fine, all she does is bluff. Yami close to my tolerance for Nana but meh otherwise. Far better TLU girls to choose from.

>stella
I never understand anyeone calling her tsundere or a slut. She callmed down after 1 espisode. More a lonely prideful princess than a tsundere. Gets a boyfriend early and then stays loyal to him.

Not an amazing girl but doesn't deserve all the blind hate just cause.

>>152763576
>sarcasm

It's called mocking. You wouldn't understand since you're too busy scanning the dictonary for more insults.

>>152763495
>cocktease the series

The one series were the MC wants to fuck the girls and the girls all wanna be fucked by him but he can't cause "REASONS." Horrible.

>>152763735
well next week that is all about to CHANGE ;)

>>152763477
>This is more about you as a person being full of shit than whatever nonsense you attempt to write about fictional characters
Have a better view and taste than you and your shit friends not means I be a completly shit like you and your shit friends
>>152763495
Who cares that shit white and rias 2.0

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>>152763735
I can't wait for volume ten to come out next week.
>>152763862
well cause the MC will finally SMASH that ASS.

Why do people call Stella a tsundere when she stops being Tsun by like the second episode?

That's not even tsun, that's just "You're some asshole I met an hour ago"

>>152763971
people dont know what the fuck tsundere is these days, just look at the charts posted above

>>152763971
Because those people are baiting or fucking retarded.

>>152763591
Nonono nana and yami are a completly shit like tsunderes and characters
Yeah you are an asshole because you ignore all that about Slutella like nana and yami
>>152763635
Pfff "yes of course"

>>152763971
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>>152764070
Worst girl, worst tsundere ever, worst main heroine, worst minority fans, and worst body.

>>152759469
wasn't stella and mc in official relationship after like 4 episodes? I don't think she should be even considered tsundere at this point.

>>152759469
To be honest, it all depends on the MC

For instance Tsunderes imo work best when there paired up with a guy who is able and willing to talk back with enough backbone to not be intimidated

When done well the give and take banter between them is more than enough to keep me interested in a series

>>152759530
might regret this latter but might as well ask

but if you expanded this list, would Holo be considered a good or shitty tsundere

>people can't talk shit about your favorite tsundere because she isn't well known
thank the fucking stars. let's keep it that way.

>>152765581
Horo is good.

>>152763387
And why I hate those damn cunts so much, oh wait.
momo is a Damn Overrated Bitch, Hypocrite, Manipulative, Immoral, Sociopath, Incestuous, Nympho, Sick, Yandere, Whore, Hooker, Slut.
a Rotten Peach Bathed in semen

yami is the Biggest Fucking Bitch, Irritable Violent Cunt, Heartless, Ungrateful, Hypocrite

nana is a Total Fucking Bitch Tsundere, Shit Tier tomboy, An Irritable Violent Aggressive, Stupid Stubborn Ignorant, Clearly is a clone of louise

>>152766067
>people can't talk shit about your favourite tsundere because they're so undeniably well executed and written

The best feeling.

>>152763775
>Harem MC
>actually ever getting any in the main series and not far off epilogue

Don't be stupid and get your hopes up.

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>>152764126
You have a serious case of pic related. You might try lurking for a while instead of spreading your rabies around.

>>152766067
>>152767273
Who? Let me see if people can shit of them or not.

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>>152767576
And you stop being a Shit Taste Faggot

>>152767791
I'm happy being able to understand what I do and don't like about a character. Much better than spewing kiddie insults because someone disagreed with me.

ESL spicfag is cancer.