Did he do anything wrong?
he messed with my wifu
>>152737863
being a jobber.
>>152737863
Being an arrogant prick without the skill to back it up. You can have all the bling and legendaries in the world, but when you get btfo by a half-assed kid mage, you need to rethink your attitude or become a better fighter so that shit wouldn't happen again.
He was an entitled little shit who couldn't deal with the fact that the world changed since his time in power.
Then he got his ass kicked anyway.
Was on the wrong side of the plot armour in a story with shounen structure.
>>152737863
>Fate/Stay Night Gil
Did literally everything wrong.
>Nu-Gil
Perfection in Human form.
>tfw you realize that if you got your hands on the grail you'd end up doing the same thing as Gilgamesh
Obviously my idea would be to right the world, but no real way to do so without seriously cutting down on those 6 billion, even if the grail was not corrupted.
>>152737989
>get btfo by a half-assed kid mage
Their fight was a nerfed gil who was also deliberately severely gimping himself versus said kid mage + Rin's mana/crest + EMIYA's Rho Aias saves; and yet Gil still won. The only reason he even died was that Manjew became vindictive after the fight and wanted to eat him, and EMIYA saved Shirou yet again by shooting Gil. Essentially, he fought 3 people at once in that fight, and still more-or-less came out on top without using Ea or Enkidu or any other legitimately strong NP in his possession.
He had/has "skill" - it comes in the form of Ea. He simply refuses to use that skill due to his arrogance, which is generally why he 'loses'.
>>152738285
You're trying to find excuses for plot armour, anon. The simple reason was that it was Shirou's route so to speak and he had to win, hence Gil will be as weak as the plot needs him to be.
He'd never have needed Ea to beat him had it not been for that, he could very easily overwhelm Shirou with the GoB.
He lost, just like Hitler.
He din do nuthing
Honestly though, I hate how Nasu cahnged him a to a lower tier character in terms of power from pretty much the king of the universe.
>>152737863
Jobbed to Sakura.
He spawned countless stupid-ass fucking power level discussions by existing.
>>152738423
I'm aware of the plot armour and such, I'm just mindlessly pointing out some basic things. If the only different aspect during the fight was that Gil was wearing his armour, he would have won by default. I doubt Nasu (or anyone else) could write a reasonable way for Shirou to bust Gil's armour, hence he does not wear it.
>>152738507
That's the retarded power creep. It even affects designs, look at the retarded shit we get in GO.
I'm personally ignoring anything that isn't Zero, Stay night, or Strange fake. I'd rather headcanon that non of it is canon.
>>152738562
>join grail war
>fuck yes gonna summon fucking Gilgamesh gonna win this bitch
>you summon Gil, but she's female
>looks at you like you're the most vile trash
>"Are you my "master", mongrel?"
>produce more spaghetti in a second than Italy in a year
>>152738701
so the same as normal Gil but you can mana transfer this one?
>>152739496
why is this a problem with normal one?
>>152737863
Skipped the leg day.
>>152739531
because normal Gil is for saber
>>152739496
Yes, whether you like it or not. Remember how he told Saber he was gonna break her with his dick? Like that but with the genders reversed.
>>152739531
Because that's gay.
>>152739630
but love between servants if forbidden
>>152737863
No
>>152739666
>forbidden
rules are for peasants and mongrels
>>152738562
>>152738701
>5 hours of preamble before being able to address her
>have to weigh your every word carefully
>can't ask her to do anything
>don't even think of using commands
>sees you as a retainer rather than master
>twice as petty because woman
>twice as prideful because woman
>twice as easily angered because woman
Would be hell to try and get her to do anything you ask, but you also got the best chance of survival in a grail war.
>>152739731
so once again, just like regular Gilgamesh but with tits and a cunny - and half the functioning armor it seems
>>152739641
>whether you like it or not
if femgamesh suddenly demanded sex, he amount of people who would answer no is limited to only the most devout of homosexuals
>>152738511
You didn't see it explained but Sakura's powers are fit for it. Blame Tokiomi for crippling a diamond in the rough when you realize how broke Imaginary Numbers really is.
Plus she was hooked to Angra, which melted Gil into nothingness and gave him his current body.
Plus she was literally the grail, so she has added authority against spirits invoked by the grail, which he still counts as.
Plus Gil was aware of what AM could do and Sakura was barely conscious of anything beyond intense pain and feeling she was dreaming.
The fact she digested him half-asleep proves how broke her powers are. Like taking care of a bad burrito that is trying to get out.
>>152738511
>>152739932
Being summoned and given power by the grail means you can't beat the grail, simple. The grail is smalltime for Gil but not when he's basically a part of it.
>>152738507
He is still the strongest herpic spirit. That wasn't changed. Hell he is the only heroic spirit that killed a beast so far without nerfing it like what happened to goetia.
>>152737863
He didn't win.
>>152737863
>his catalyst is the skin from the world's oldest snake
>seduces Kotomine to the dark side
>Pride incarnate
Great qualities.
>>152740601
>and
>its just his edgy teen phase
>at time of creation he was THE SHIT in terms of power - until power-creep with grand servants
on the plus side
>fabulous
>excellent driver
>god taste in wine
>acceptable taste in women
>>152740601
does he have the best and most mystical catalyst introduced so far? Its definitly better than avalon.
>>152738701
implying he will kill you after you summoned him after knowing how mongrel you are
>>152737863
No. He was just the King of Jobbers
>>152737863
Aside from being a violent sociopathic manchild?
why was he a completely different character in the other routes
almost everything
>>152738423
shouldn't it be his armoury?
>>152737863
Not going all out and killing everyone day1
>>152738701
>produce more spaghetti in a second than Italy in a year
Chuckled
>>152737863
Yes, he killed best boy.
>>152737863
Tried to kill a pure and innocent girl.
>>152744906
If he didn't, some else would have. It's the fate of being a prequel character
>>152745124
Who, Saber?
>>152737863
He lost.
>knows his kingdom is going to get fucked by the apocalypse
>becomes a caster and summons Merlin with 7 other servants
>fights by shooting spell books and staves out of the gate before getting close and hitting them with an axe
Is there anything Gil can't do?
>>152745349
Fuck saber
>>152739731
That's what the command spells are for
What if I use a command spell to make Gil get on 4 and lick my foot like a dog
>>152748393
what is the worst you can do to Gil to hurt him the most with a command spell
>>152745349
He cant lick his elbow
>>152737863
>OP 1 had an awesome Lancer vs Berserker scene
>OP 2 had an awesome Lancer vs Caster scene
>neither were in the actual show
this pissed me off to no avail when Berserker, Caster and Lancer died respectively, I was really looking forward to those fights, and then nothing, all we got was two Lancer - Archer fights which we didn't even see half of.
>all those panning shots of Master-Servant duos sitting around, implying tension and conflict between the teams
UBW was a clear case of the Opening being more atmospheric and visually interesting than the actual show. UBW had so much wasted potential it's annoying.
>>152749313
>oh look at this samurai character who can match saber in 1v1 sword skill
>whoops, guess we're not seeing him ever again
>>152748393
there's easier ways to commit suicide, and less painful
>>152745171
medea
>>152748393
He'd resist it long enough to put a spear through your head.
>>152739641
It's not gay if it's Gilgamesh.
>>152750526
Isn't that basically what his level of charisma means?
>>152738701
I feel like the best bet for survival in case of fem!Gil, is to make yourself too interesting to kill, since you sure as hell won't be getting more than a modicum of respect from her. The only human I believe who earned Gilgamesh's respect is Waver, and that literally came down to how he answered a single question in the end.
>>152750716
She wouldn't just kill you for no reason, just don't expect to be in charge of the operation.
>>152750982
so just like base gilgamesh, is there even a difference apart from the tits & ass being bigger?
>>152737863
I didn't like how Stay Night handled him. His jobbing had okay explanations, but he did it so much that it came off as contrived. His motivations were pretty retarded too, I could easily buy him not valuing human lives in the modern era, given how many of us there are, but making the leap from that to wanting to kill off most of humanity seems a bit excessive for a series as morally gray as Fate. He should've been how he was in Zero, still arrogant, still evil, just less actively misanthropic and more intelligently hedonistic.
EX Hubris
>>152748662
What if he put it halfway in the GoB and then pulled it out near his face?
why does he always have GoB behind him, we see that he can choose where the things fire from, so why not simply surround his opponent with blades- or have one launched from inside of them
>>152745136
Not true. Diarmuid becomes a Saber in in that new shit and he dies in Zero.
>>152747975
saber a slut . . .
>>152738562
>>152738701
>>152739496
>>152744843
My sides !
>>152751329
Saber a saver.
Tohsaka a toesucka.
Wormslut a slut.
>>152751392
Saber is a big tittied slut.
>>152751392
this rhyming if forced, nonsensical and contrived - just like the respective romaces
>>152751392
you mean savior ? the lonely little girl king
on toesucka we can agree on . . especially when she is sucking on Luvia's toe like a docile obedient little maid .
>>152751737
Stop roleplaying.
>>152751632
>>152751737
Gil an easy kill.
Iskander a cock handler.
Luvia?
>>152738562
>>152752076
this doesent even rhyme - so i wont bother either
a whore
>>152752108
No thank you, I prefer Arcueid's old hairstyle.
>>152752260
theres physically imposible, and theres that bikini
>>152737863
Didn't get summoned by Rin
>>152752260
Didn't she and Gil fight?
>>152752380
>didn't get summoned by the girl whose father he betrayed and got killed
>wrong
>>152751737
Would watch a feel good action/comedy movie about these two broing it up.
>>152739630
> because normal Gil is for Enkidu
FTFY.
>one of the few good male characters in the whole series
>lel lets turn him into a girl too that would be great
the Fate fanbase is such a piece of fucking cancer
>>152753170
>>152752912
>fucking best bro
mongrel taste
>>152737863
he was a boring character who was held down by the series he was in
The real question is if Gil can survive an Anal Moon Party
>>152737863
yes
>>152753604
A little brojob was perfectly fine back in the day. It's only nowadays that people are so ugly and insecure about themselves that they can't stand the thought of some casual butt stuff with their best buds.
Man, I miss the good old days. Wish humanity got culled until only the worthwhile people are left.
>>152753875
enkidu would literally an a clay onahole
>>152737863
He got himself eaten by Sakura.
>>152753604
>>152753875
Enkidu is neither male nor female, fucking him is as gay as it is straight.
>>152754397
its using a pocketpussy, its living clay. i wouldnt even call it sex
>>152754214
> a being powered by the grail lost to the grail
what a shock