Why did they changed her VA from Aya Hirano to Maaya Sakamoto after Bakemonogatari?
Which one is better?
Also Monogatari thread I guess
They didn't change the voice actress. They just changed her name.
>>152634114
Wan't she in audio play?
>>152634318
You're right. Maybe they changed her because of the issues hirano had with her bassist
>>152635262
>issues hirano had with her bassist
???
I am currently in "Tsubasa Tiger" and took a break, most of her arcs are just so boring for me.
Does it get better? Should I drop it? Or will the small break fix this?
>>152636072
Koyomi died at the end,have a nice watching anon
>>152636072
The rest of season 2 is way better
>>152635639
She didn't suck his cock like she did the rest of her band.
>>152636372
Best couple
>>152636594
They broke up?
>>152637538
Three times
Didn't you read the spoilers?
>>152637638
nope
>>152636072
Cat arcs are always the worst, it will get better
Threadly reminder that as a french I have already seen part 3.
>>152637825
http://pastebin.com/efb0Gcsu
If you want to
>>152637877
Well, at least you got to watch Kizu III, congrats
>>152634032
Your question confused the fuck out of me
but then i realized she never spoke a word in the Bakemonogatari anime. good joke.
she was voiced by Hirano in some shitty drama cd that's irrelevant. that's why they were ok with using a second VA.
>>152639540
Sakamoto is 10x better
>>152639640
do people even listen to these "drama cds"?
this comparison of VAs is irrelevant
>>152639707
Sakamoto just better
>>152639762
i'm saying no one would disagree. therefore it's a worthless comparison.
>>152636072
Your taste is shit anon
>>152636594
That cunt is so pathetic.
>>152639997
Your mom's?
>>152634032
Because they stopped caring
>>152636594
>Nisio needing to introduce this Spanish soap opera-tier shit just to keep their relationship "interesting"
I actually don't understand why Crabfags are even happy about Musubi, I'd have thought that they'd be pissed off.
>>152640083
Don't let Kissshot near children.
>>152634032
>Which one is better?
Take one guess
>>152634032
>Which one is better?
The one who is still working
>>152640214
But she WUUUUVS them!
>>152640146
Well breakups had realistic reasons and weren't so catastrophic. Their love is stronger.
>>152637877
I've also seen it, but in Japan when I went over for new years, and got a copy of Mazemonogatari when I went. Was pretty great
>>152640321
>/ss/ immanent
>>152640321
>>152640365
>rich chick moved back to nip suburb from abroad to live with beat cop ex-boyfriend
Even ignoring the supernatural stuff, their relationship is absolutely not realistic at all (I seriously don't think Nisio was even attempting that before anyway). The constant breakups did not make it more realistic, it's just exactly what I said - just some needless drama to try and make it interesting.
>>152640146
They'll take whatever they can get. Pretty much everything else in the LN would be infinitely more interesting to anyone who actually likes the series and they're going nuts over Gahara showing up in the final four pages.
>>152640460
They love each other. In fiction love actually works.
>>152640460
It was either that or Araragi himself moving abroad.
>>152637877
That's about all you have going for you as a Frenchist.
>>152636072
Cat story is fucking terrible. It gets better later, i promise. Season 2 gets much better.
>>152641433
Neko Shiro is not so bad. Cat is crazy bitch who tried to kill Crab and her dad but we finally got proper explanation what was wrong with her.
>>152636072
Cat gets much better with short hair
She was the worst girl before s2
>>152634032
I feel like Hirano could've done a better loli Shinobu, but she would pale in comparison to Sakamoto's Kiss-Shot. On average, Sakamoto was probably the better way to go.
Although we probably would've gotten Shinobu character songs if Hirano was voicing her.
>>152640214
It's fine. She'll only diddle shotaragi. It'll probably even be normal Araragi who got transformed by some of her magic bullshit.
left or right?
>>152642795
Hirano would have been good at cute, carefree Shinobu, which is something like 10% of her lines. I'm not even sure she would do a better job of it. Sakamoto really nails the sense of a big, powerful vampire stuck in a little girl's body, which is exactly what she needs to do.
best girl
>>152644223
Will we ever see Paparagi?
>>152642944
Kek Araragi isn't even able to do this.
>>152644304
Koyomi obviously took everything from his mother
I imagine his dad more like his daughters then
>>152644223
>>152644304
There aren't any barriers to it, but he's not really relevant to the plot at all. Maybe if Araragi gets in trouble at work and needs someone to help smooth things over and he sits there seething in self-loathing at having to call in that sort of connection.
>>152644809
Araragi straightly said to Ougi, that his parents will never use their job situation for "helping" their children
>>152644398
>daughters
>plural
If he is anywhere close to the Fire Sisters in terms of personality though I'd be really excited for him. Would be a great contrast to Mamaragis stoicness
>>152644866
In that case, I can't really think of how he would ever become relevant.
>>152644866
>>152644948
Araragi said a lot of things that weren't true at all. Remember the whole Euler affair or Koyomi Stone. Or how he pretended to not have any feelings for Hanekawa.
True, it doesn't seem likely that the parents will ever get relevant, but just taking I wouldn't just take Ararararagi's word for it.
Seeing that he is now a cop himself, maybe about to marry his girlfriend and that the story now tries to be more "mature" I don't think it's impossible.
>>152645091
Every his conversation with Ougi is pure true tho, he can't lie to her
>>152645143
Sure, he can't lie to her but he could be wrong
>>152645256
Exactly
>>152636372
Wrong.
>she wanted to suck his cock
>he didn't want any of that
>he was married and didn't want to be disloyal to his wife
>she kept insisting
>files sexual harassment complaint at the company they work for
Honestly if he didn't want to be disloyal and she kept pestering him about it pretty much his only course of action was a sekuhara complaint, which was justified. Otherwise what were his other options? She wouldn't take no for an answer. If he blew up on her or got violent he'd get fired instead most likely.
Because Maaya Sakamoto is better?
>>152646201
Well, that too. I'm pretty sure that Hirano getting into a big sex scandal didn't help her case.
>>152645884
Is this really true?
I thought it was because he was the bassist he didn't get his dick sucked. This information changes everything if true.
>>152640460
I agree, but crabfags will never see it that way because muh waifu.
They'll take what they can get
Araragi talking with Oikura in Musubimonogatarihttp://mirroredtranslations.tumblr.com/post/156332412867/tsudzura-human-chapter-3
>>152647426
>More How Much
YES!
>>152647907
Rude, the name is Euler.
>>152647426
>everyone thinks she ended up out on the streets
>>152647426>“If we’re still single by the time we reach our thirties…”
>“If we are?”
>“Let’s strangle each other to death.”
Nothing has made me like Sodachi so much as this line.
>>152648936
It's weird that even Koyomi just casually says "Oh, didn't think you'd be alive"
Even if she might be a little unstable, everyone is just downright rude to her
>>152649365
That's sort of the relationship they have. Araragi says he's honestly surprised she hasn't died in a ditch; Sodachi laughs in his face when he says he broke up with crab.
>>152647426
The guy Sodachi chooses to be her partner will be a lucky one
>another timeskip and she is the only one alone (besides Cat who already controls a few countries)
>>152644223
>>152644779
I want Mamaragi to pick me up from school!
>>152649144
Doujins where
Have you bought a daki of your favorite Monogatari yet?
>>152650971
Never ever.
>>152645884
holy shit what a slut.
>>152640083
>>152640321
That's only with shota Araragi though and not all kids
>>152647426
so the break ups weren't even break ups except for the first one?
>>152652381
Nah. They legit got in fights and broke up and spent time while not in a relationship. Maybe the second one was trivial, but the third was pretty serious.
>>152652643
They said the cause was trivial, not that the second break up was. Though at the very least it was enough for them to patch it up by themselves.
>>152634032
>VA
seiyuu
>>152649144
Best girl.
>>152647426
Araragi seems to be more than a simple cop if he has the connections and power to install a police box wherever he wants
My copy of Bakemonogatari 01 Will arrive tomorrow. Is the translation as good as Kizu's?
>>152653598
I'll be honest: it's mostly because that line reminds me of Shinobu. She can't quite compete with that amount of casual, loving venom.
>>152645884
Literally none of this is true. No complaint was filed. She just enjoyed some casual sex with her bandmates and it leaked.
>>152653726
>She
*Sodachi
Are there any raws of Musubi yet, or just the translations?
Also, did anyone ever text dump the novels after Zoku Owari?It's more handy to just copy and search a word I don't knowhan dealing with OCR when I try to read shit in Japanese
>>152647426
>Oikura took out her cell phone, fiddled with the screen, and held it out to me.
>The screen showed an address book.
>It appeared to be a request for me to register my personal information… I suppose, with this, our fourth separation is officially rescinded.
>“Don’t come to any conclusions here, please. I’d end up feeling responsible. Tell me about it afterward. I want to smile again. Give me my smile, my Mr. Clown.”
>“……”
>“What. I can gather your personal information by abusing my authority too, you know. Do you want to make me a criminal?”
>“I don’t. I can’t help but foresee a future in handcuffs for you. Please, submit your letter of resignation now to avoid that.”
>“Actually, you shouldn’t take my comments into consideration very much. Like I said before, it’s not like I have a partner myself yet.”
>Oikura said, as if she’d suddenly thought of it.
>As if it had suddenly struck her.
>“If we’re still single by the time we reach our thirties…”
>“If we are?”
>“Let’s strangle each other to death.”
Math is so tsundere it hurts. I need a novel from the time RRRG, Gahara, and Math were on good terms, because the bantz would be out of control.
>>152653676
according to the summary he's a "sarcastic/disagreeable elite". so he's probably a liutenant or a sub-commander
How do you respond to this
So what's the truth here?
>>152655401
The subs are wrong, Hanekawa actually says that Spasibo doesn't mean anything like wonderful.
>>152655401
Well, Hanekawa doesn't know everything.
>>152655401
Спасибо means thank you. Translation error.
>>152634032
Did Shinobu even say anything in Bakemonogatari? Weren't her first lines in Nise? It's been a long time...
>>152653977
Is it good?
>>152655349
Well, considering it's around 8AM I'd say stay up because that's somewhat reasonable. Maybe point out how lewd that line sounded for fun too.
>>152655501
No, but it got retconned to her talking very occasionally.
>>152655501
Yep, nothing concrete until Karen Bee.
Crab is not deserve Koyomi.
Yes?
No?
>>152655349
"What are we going to do on the bed?"
>>152656013
>>152656256
>>152653799
>I need a novel from the time RRRG, Gahara, and Math were on good terms, because the bantz would be out of control.
Isn't there a zaregoto/monogatari crossover handed in Kizu III that has college araragi/crab/math meeting li-chan? I hope they scan that, since it's unlikely Nisio will revisit this subplot after already detailing it.
There is a lot of stuff from Sodachi that ended up unmentioned though, what happened with her father, her relationship with Hanekawa, how she survived during college.
>>152656326
>how she survived during college
Why would she die?
>>152656374
I meant she couldn't pay rent before going to the Araragi's, to the point that she had to take the offer to live with Koyomi. Unless Araragi's parents acted as guarantor or something.
>>152656256
>>152656275
Did Hana air along with 2nd season?
I'm re-watching it right now and holy shit, how did they manage to make such a shit and boring arc? That Numachi bitch ruins everything with her boring rambling for five fucking episodes.
>>152656611
No, Hana was a special that aired later like tsuki.
>>152656611
It was supposed to air along with it, but time constraints made them air it separately later. Instead we had a bunch of pointless recaps during Second Season tv broadcast.
>>152656611
Hana is actually my favorite arc and I'm not even a Monkeyfag.
>>152656693
It'd have been better if it had aired with 2nd season and instead of 5 episodes it had only 3. They dragged it for too long.
It's funny because it's Kanbaru's best performance in the entire series, but that fucking Numachi ruins everything with her repetitive bullshit of monologues.
>>152656888
I don't think she is that bad.
And I like the laid back pace of Hanamonogatari.
Kanbaru as a narrator is a lot more introspective than usual, so I do appreciate it has more time to let things sink in.
>>152656962
I think that Numachi is legit the worst character in the series by a massive margin. She doesn't even make a good foil for Kanbaru because her life philosophy is so blatantly juvenile and wrong.
>>152656962
>I don't think she is that bad
Yes she is, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed extremely slow shit like Texhnolyze.
>>152656611
Hana was great though. It always drags on the first time through because people expect a normal Monogatari book but instead what they got was a proper character study where the antagonist is Kizu Araragi vs the protagonist who is effectively Bake Araragi and how people choose to hold on to their sins and guilt because it's comfortable effectively enforcing a terrible life because they're not strong enough to get out of that comfort zone.
Yeah Numachi prattles on a lot but it's not like she's exactly different from any other character in Monogatari which does the same.
The fact Hana was set later just throws people off and with the release of the books that now come after Hana, it's going to be seen as a better book in the overall scheme as the gateway towards the future which is partially what Hanamonogatari was about.
>>152656962
It's also good in the fact that at the time it was the only thing post-grad for Araragi and it doesn't have him as a narrator.
>>152656962
Numachi isn't as bad as people say. The people that say that are the people who watched Hana once and then gave up.
>>152647426
10/10 chapter.
Sodachi is 10/10
New mature Araragi is 10/10
I wish it will be animated sometime.
>>152657044
Shut the fuck up already. You're the kind of person that people see and then give everyone else who likes Monogatari shit for being a pretentious asshole.
>>152657263
Maybe in like 5 or more years.
> Although, if you talked it out with her logically, I think that woman would be willing to return to Japan and find a new job in our hometown. She’s starved for affection, after all
> That’s harsh. I don’t want her to quit her job because of me. I feel it’s not good in this world that we can use that as an example
> About Senjougahara, I don’t think she’d want to come back to Japan
Sometimes I hate Araragi
>>152657483
Araragi is regularly an infuriating faggot, yes.
>>152657279
>You can't discuss about things because others will think it's pretentious and taint the whole fanbase
How about you shut the fuck up instead? That anon wasn't even being that pretentious.
He is kinda right about how Hana throws you off entirely.
I don't agree with what he said about the characters conflict though, should make that clear. Numachi isn't like Kizu Araragi at all.
>>152657599
>oh, you wouldn't get it because you didn't watch it five times
He was being a super pretentious faggot. Hanafags always say the same thing and never back it up. Numachi is just a terrible, shallow character that doesn't even have any interesting banter. It's no wonder the entire arc falls apart with her at the center.
>>152657044
>Yeah Numachi prattles on a lot but it's not like she's exactly different from any other character in Monogatari which does the same.
Except other characters prattle on with Araragi, which is fun. Rouka never interacted with him and thus her relevancy plummeted, no one cared about her to begin with.
>>152657076
I finished it. Simply put, it's boring and repetitive. Outside of the male cameos it's not worth watching.
>>152657707
>Numachi is just a terrible, shallow character that doesn't even have any interesting banter.
Are you implying Hanamonogatari was supposed to be a light-hearted book with tons of banter in it and not a melancholy look into Kanbaru's self?
You get the bantz in every other book. Does having a completely serious book go against your expectations, anon?
>>152657859
I'm saying that maybe Numachi might have a redeeming feature if she managed to have some entertaining jokes, but instead she just has her kindergarten-level philosophy that falls over in the slightest breeze that Nisio spends half the arc pretending it holds weight.
>>152657904
Jokes would kill the mood set by the book though. Numachi's non-serious interactions with Kanbaru were pretty much just her being teasing which is the best way to approach a book where jokes would kill the mood.
Also NisiO doesn't pretend it holds weight, it's why Kaiki, Numachi, Oshino and Araragi's viewpoints all weigh so heavily on Kanbaru and she actually has to consider every point and that in the end she actively disapproves of Numachi's bullshit.
Even Numachi disagrees with her own sentiment in the end when she gets dunked.
>>152657996
The issue is that Numachi's bullshit is so fucking fragile that I'm disappointed in Kanbaru for humoring it for so much as a second. There's being unsure of yourself and there's freezing up when someone tells you that 2+2=5.
>>152658041
Then the way Araragi "solves" it doesn't even get to how completely wrong Numachi is and he just spouts off some generic Japanese bullshit wisdom. The fact that Kanbaru needs Araragi help for it is also pathetic. It just really feels like Nisio didn't think the consequences of that philosophy through and face planted in an arc that makes every character who participates in it look like a complete moron.
>>152658041
How was it fragile? The logic itself was but the results weren't.
Numachi was going around committing acts of good and because of Kanbaru's association with Araragi and the results both Numachi and Araragi achieve with their unconventional good Kanbaru would find herself questioning whether her opposition is wrong or not.
The fact Kanbaru compares the two shows that in her mind she's already hit the doubt bottle pretty hard.
Combine that with the fact she's no longer able to hang out with Araragi and Senjougahara as mentioned at the start then you'll find a lonely, weak person who is unable to really sort herself out without a guide until Araragi comes and sorts her shit out and she becomes a Sports Doctor due to the events of Hana and what happened to Rouka.
>>152657707
I thought it wasn't the same guy who said that. Yeah, "you don't get it because you didn't watch it enough times" can be true in some cases, but definitely is not the case here.
Still I think that Hana wouldn't work with a lighter tone. It is melancholic because Kanbaru is melancholic, and since it's not what people expect, a lot won't like it.
I do agree with you about Numachi, I just don't think she is bad enough to bring the whole thing down. She is a one note and forgettable character, and while she works as an obstacle/making the plot move forward, she isn't a very good foil to Kanbaru.
>>152658123
Numachi's philosophy is "solve your problems by giving up and waiting until you don't care any more." This is a completely retarded non-solution unless you're talking about an issue that you're utterly powerless to solve. However, for something like having bad grades, or a fight with a friend, you're just making the problem worse by turning a blind eye to the actual fucking problem and just letting yourself adjust to failure when it's unnecessary. That much should be immediately obvious to anyone with half a brain and these are the sorts of problems that Numachi is "advising" people on.
>>152658365
I guess what I'm trying to say is that, from my perspective, the core conflict of the arc is so completely and utterly one-sided that I can't suspend my disbelief for it. Maybe I'm an outlier, but it just doesn't hold water in my mind.
soon
>>152658692soon
>>152658692
I do honestly feel like Deathtopia is gonna scold Araragi for being lazy about his relationship with Shinobu. I'll be grateful if it results in him doing anything substantial.
>>152659221
She will kill and eat pregnant Hitagi.
>>152659297
I somehow doubt it will get that dark. I just want Araragi to get hit with a clue by four.
>>152658692
So she is going to be end game no matter what?
>>152659460
She is his eternal soulmate.
>>152659460
Yes.
When everyone leave him, she still be by his side.
When everyone die, she still be with him.
Is it still prints money for Shaft?
>>152659460
There would need to be some serious external issues to change that. If you pay attention, you can tell that Shinobu spends tons of time and effort heading off any problems they might have and talking them over in a healthy and constructive way. So they're not about to have a falling out on their own.
>>152660018
Every TV season still qualifies as a smash hit, even if sales have slowly dwindled over the years and they're no longer setting records.
>>152661477
I wonder if by the time Zoku Owari concludes it will still be enough for them to keep the adaptation beyond the Final Season.
>>152659512
That has been obvious since Nisemonogatari.
>>152661690
Meant to reply >>152659460 instead of >>152659512
>>152660018
Not even a birdfag. but damn Tsukihi's thighs are glorious.
>>152661893
I'm a sort-of birdfag ever since Tsuki showed that you can get her to stop freaking out if you ask sincerely.
>>152659221
Would be nice
I want to get into the monogatari series how do I start?
>>152666400
You start by lurking more.
>>152666400
tsf monogatari
>>152661893
>>152666400
Start with Katanagatari then follow up with Oremonogatari, Showamonogatari and Kagihimemonogatari.
>>152666400
Airing order
>>152656611
what? hana was the best one
>>152637904
What the fuck is that Hanekawa bullshit?
Oh god, what a hack
>>152666400
http://galax.moe/monogatari/
>>152653751
Quit lying anyone who soes a bit of research knows this is true.
>>152646981
Yes.
>>152667178
What exactly is Nisios endgame for Cat? I thought she would become the next Oshino if anything, but it seems Nisio has something else in mind for her.
>>152653806
Christ, these guys can't live an ordinary life without Hanekawa intervening in some way? She really is the "heroine from the shadows" the nips talk about.
>>152668043
Don't you mean the next Gaen?
>>152668043
>>152668240
being a shitty mary sue
>>152668274
This
>>152668274
>>152668295
Samefag
>>152668240
>"heroine from the shadows"
Neat title.
>>152668390
>less than a minute between posts
>samefag
pick one
>>152665588
Bat is love, Bat is life.
>>152668254
No, neither.
She isn't neutral enough to be either of them, because regardless of how much she respects him (I suspect Nisio will make him her missing blood related father through some BS, to drive that last thorn in that her background is completely freaking hosed, which is why she severs her past in Musubi).
She is too idealistic and nurturing to become those two. Unless Nisio does go full Big Boss with her.
>>152668605
By "next character", it doesn't necessarily mean they become exactly like that character. It just means that they are likely gonna fill in that role the previous character held.
>>152668712
Gaen is still there
Monogatari needs a cake then I remembered Shinobu exists but we need more cakes to even the number of lolis we have.
>>152668605
>full Big Boss
I'm ready.
>>152668972
There are three new cakes in new book.
>>152668274
If she was a Mary Sue, everyone would love her, and there are quite a few who don't, or disagree with her methods.
>>152668972
All the highschool girls besides Senjougahara are cakes now. LikeSodachi, a lonely public servant with tied hair and glasses looking for a partner to start a family
>>152669070
>>152669070
>>152669005
Is Hanekawa a cake now? I think she'd look fantastic as one.
Does shinobu get more involved in the story after bakemonogatari? And do they ever get into the MC's background about when he was a vampire?
>>152669311
The only time Shinobu is not involved is in Bake.
>>152669311
Yes. Yes.
>>152669311
Forgot to say, you find out about his vampire stuff during Kizumonogatari, which for anime watchers is the currently running 3 part movie and for the LN it came out after Bakemonogatari and has already been released in english.
>>152669308
She isa female open borders activist with no husband, so yes.
>>152669408
>Hanekawa becomes an SJW
I see it, I see it very clearly. This is my worst fear. How would I stop her going full feminist?
>>152669432
You can't. If you oppress her, she will eventually spawn a new Oddity that will just kill you in the end.
>>152669502
Wouldn't I be able to calm her oddity with my dick like the Black Hanekawa wanted Araragi to do?
>>152636072
It's great from the start. If you have trouble piecing things together, Nekomonogatari and Monogatari S2 are when things really start intertwining.
If you don't like the characters or dialogue it might be worth watching Kizumonogatari first or just outright dropping the series.
>>152669548
That is only 1 Oddity, she has and can just make more that one. She is an Oddity making factory.
>>152652850
VA you fucking weeb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcMvDXf3sdE
>>152636072
fuck you this is the best show ever and if you don't like it you have trash taste
>>152669881
Fuck off frogposter.
>>152669502
Cant Araragi also spawn oddities?
So far has anyone else besides him and cat spawned other oddities?
>>152669844
it was fine until the guy started singing.
>>152669932
He only did due to extreme circumstances with the Rainy Devil. Hanekawa doesn't need a catalyst to create Oddities.
>>152669369
>>152669343
>>152669354
Excellent
>>152659512
MUH
>>152637877
I went out of my way to travel to Berlin to watch it. I really liked it.
>>152647426
fug
>we won't see this animated/voiced for twenty years
>>152669975
of course she needs a catalyst. both the tiger and the cat needed catalysts.
>>152670619
He doesn't have his family's numbers?
>>152671559
He was that edgy.
>>152671559
Pretty sure his sisters weren't allowed to have mobiles at that time, that's why Tsukihi wrote him e-mails from their families computer instead.
>>152671559
he did. i recall in the novel he was sending a message from his phone to his sisters telling them to not get worried about his absence.
>>152671788
He called home and Karen answered, neither of the Fire Sisters had cellphones so they used the computer in the living room to write him e-mails
> (C91) [Bloody Okojo (Akutagawa Manbou, Takakujyu)] Hitagi Family Kouhen (Bakemonogatari)
>>152671919
>over 80 pages
holy shit
Do they actually have a normal house or is it shaft design?
Always wondered that
>>152671919
>my face when Monogatari hentai
For some reason I just can't get into it, I can't explain it.
>>152671919
How come Monogatari doujins tend to be so good? I don't even like Senjogahara all that much
>>152672058
Kizu is Monogatari without the Shaft designs. If you want to see what places like the Cram School actually looks like then watch Kizu.
>>152671788
>>152671559
He remembers them so he didn't put them there.
>>152672058
It's a normal house, I think it's even mentioned somewhere in the novels that their bathroom is actually pretty small
>>152671919
a wild math appeared
So who were Kisshot's parents if she managed to grow into such a perfection? Those were some godly genes.
>>152672081
>tfw you read Mongatari doujins because you get authors capturing Araragi-esk monologues
>>152672506my favourite doujins are actually the few non-h ones because of Araragi's fun interactions
Hello guys, can you please say something nice about Nadeko (my wife)?
>>152673463
Pretty underwhelming outside of SS.
>>152673463
Your wife lose you hair in the future
>>152673463
Doesn't deserve the bad rep she gets.
>>152673463
She has been a very bad snake, killing people because they don't like you is not okay!
Her assistant is pretty cute though and her manga is adorable
>>152673671
>>152673463
She is a part of the best arc.
>>152673671
To be fair, she has not actually killed anyone. But the intent was there, and she will get a spanking when i come home from work. I expect that will gently guide her back onto the right track.
>>152673767
She does not appear in kizu
>>152673463
Nadeko is the cutest
>>152673767
That's true, best episode even.
>>152673926
Yeah that's why he said "best", anon
>>152673463
>>152672137
The buildings are still absurdly big and fancy in Kizu.
>>152669432
>Hanekawa
>a friend of Araragi's
>feminist
Any SJW would end up shooting themselves as his friend. She is just liberal in her methods, and we already knew she was an idealist. An idealist willing to do mine defuse duty as a volunteer. SJWs don't have the balls for that.
Expect her to create a team of half-oddity members to bring world peace in her holy crusade (get it? Her codename of Jeanne D' Arc).
>>152673926
>>152674623
She also still lusts after his dick in Musubi.
>>152674623
Will she die at Araragi's grave regretting her every life choice?
>>152674079
Kizu is the best arc and snake is irrelevant there.
>>152674800
Araragi will outlive her and live happily ever after with Bat and whatever offspring he and Crab created
>>152674623
I for one welcome our new Oddity overlords.
>>152674846
So will she die at snake's, meme's or gaen's grave?
>>152674847
How can regular girls even compete?
>>152674880
They can't.
>>152674880
by not being boys
>>152674847
high res owari endcards when?
>>152674880
By being extra cute.
>>152674958
You can get both
Was Watanabe in charge of the kizu character designs?
>>152674958
Damn, Euler destroys my theory that oddities are always better
>>152674800
No, she'll busy doing bigger things.
>>152675040
Watanbe/Morioka
>>152674800
She dies by getting thrown out of a helicopter like every good communist
>>152674846
what's the point of having a kid if hes just going to outlive them in the end?
>>152675178
He could always make immortal vampire kids with Bat instead
>>152675237
Bat doesn't want his kids.
>>152675131
Shouldn't you shoot her first?
>>152675285
source: my ass
>>152675045
Nadeko calls her an oddity, so Nisio might consider her an honorary one.
>>152675285
>Bat doesn't want his kids.
I don't remember her saying something like this.
>>152668605
>Unless Nisio does go full Big Boss with her.
That would be interesting to see.
>>152675285
>Doesn't want to have kids at some point with the man she considers to be her entire world.
>Somehow implying she doesn't love Araragi.
It's like your trying to be retarted.
>>152675369
>all best girls are actually oddities
What did Nisio mean by this?
>>152675315
first you tie her neck with a rope and then you throw her off from the helicopter just like salieri in scarface.
so how do you think the entire franchise will end? do you think the bat ending will really happen and if it does then do you think it'll be romantic? will ararararagi really be okay once he starts witnessing the girls dying one by one of old age? how long will it take for him to enter into a romantic relationship with bat after the death of crab?
>>152675483
She is an oddity. She is not fertile.
>>152675562
>how long will it take for him to enter into a romantic relationship with bat after the death of crab?
Honestly It might even happen before anyone dies.
>>152675625
Explain Episode then
>>152675562
I honestly don't think the series will end. If it didn't end with Zoku it won't ever end.
>>152675625
episode has a vampire mother
>>152675625
Her being unable to have kids doesn't mean she doesn't want his though. Is it even canon that she's not fertile?
>>152675625
>A person that has the power the warp reality to her liking, can somehow not get pregnant if she wants to.
Source: my ass
>>152675658
Her mother was a human.
>>152675686
Source?
>>152675721
It honestly doesn't matter. One of his parents was a vampire. So what this anon is saying:>>152675625 is utter bullshit.
>>152675721
Kizu LN
>>152675721
Being a half-vampire is Episode whole deal, how did you not catch this? He hates both sides because he can't fit in in either
>>152675625
Why are you making shit up? First the whole "Bat doesn't want his kids" line and now this.
>>152675813
I though he only hated vampires. That;s what I remember from the novel. He did not have much against humans.
This is a very fertile vampire.
>>152650545
Me+Math=A perfect couple.
>>152675685
>I honestly don't think the series will end
It has to end one day anon. I'm just curious how Nisio will do it especially if he goes through with the Bat ending.
>>152675562
It will be left unfinished at volume 73 when Nisio dies
I honestly don't think he can stop writing them now. He's addicted.
>>152675721
Owari 2 ch 027 Episode tells Araragi his father was a human killed by humans and his mother was a vampire killed by vampires, for being traitors.
>>152675625
Also, Mitome from Musubi is a descendant of a werewolf clan, so oddities are definitly able to reproduce
On that note, would Birb or Ougi be able to have kids? How would it work with Birb's reincarnation?
>>152675861
He didn't care because they were weaker than him. So he was just an edgy teenager. Just like raragi
>>152675960
Bird's reincarnation won't effect anything, it will just move to another vessel.
Ougi probably can but her personality shows that she would probably never be interested in a person enough for that to be answered.
>>152675838
Don't mind him. He was already beyond saving when he though that Shinobu wouldn't want his kids at some point.
I expect if you enter these threads that you are up to date with ''atleast'' the anime. The only reason Bat tolerates Crab is because she is part of Araragi's happiness. By the time they made up, Crab was already important to Araragi. Shinobu will never to try break them apart, since it's been shown that she cares more about Araragi's happiness then she does for her own. And Bat is right now content just being with him.
Though Kabuki, Mail and Owari have shown that she clearly loves him.
>>152675952
> his father was a human killed by humans and his mother was a vampire killed by vampires, for being traitors.
What if humans would try to kill Hitagi? Araragi is a vampire technically.
>>152676096
Araragi/fullpower-kisshot revenging vengeance with sick j-rock playing in the background with mechs and american senator as a final boss?
>>152676053
I wonder though how the whole reincarnation would work for a possible half-phoenix and whether the child would inherit its mother's reincarnation circle or not?
Could you breed a phoenix and a vampire for super-immortality?
>>152676096
Araragi is nerfed beyong believe sonce he was broken as fuck in Kizu.
>>152676096
>Hitagi dies
>Arararagi does the unthinkable and actually turns her into a vampire
That would be pretty interesting, even though given Araragi's character this sounds unlikely
>>152676256
>actually turns her into a vampire
Nah cause then we get no Bat end.
>>152676076
Shinobu needs to be in teen form at least to have kids. In this form she needs to eat humans. Araragi's blood is not enough.
>>152670619
>spoiled rich kid tries to be edgy: the scene
Not laughing and ruining the mood for the rest of the theater was difficult.
>>152669881
Kill yourself already frogposter.
>>152676352
True.
>>152676352
They missed their chance during Owari 3.
>>152676693
Araragi won't allow it. Never.
>>152676352
Shinobu can grow wings, create arbitrary matter, and travel through time. She can work something out if she wants to get pregnant. The biggest issue is how half-vampires end up ostracized by both humans and vampires and if they want to put their child(ren) through that or if they have a plan.
>>152676729
There is still the problem that she needs to consume humans when she is a full vampire. Both because they two did not want to be seperated and because of that isue they created that bond again. Araragi once again became a vampire (still nerfed as fuck) and Bat lost most of her vamparic nature and became a little girl again.
I asume the reason Bat takes the form of a little girl is because it's easier for her to maintain that form then her true form.
>>152676352
There is also that 13-14 year old form she took in Kabuki.
>>152675942
This. Nisio is terrible at stopping.Just look at Zaregoto and its related works.
>>152676874
She could just kill all vampires and specialists in the world.
>>152677011
Or she can just shapeshift her womb into something functional. It's less of a stretch than turning into a fucking tree.
>>152676802
Of crouse, Araragi will never allow her to eat humans again. And bat is fine with that, but the reason she wanted to recreate that connection is again is purly selfish and not because it's better for the world. She wants to stay with Araragi and that is only possible when she is bounded to him. She could stay with him in her true form in full power but that would mean she has to consume a human every month. And becasue Araragi does not want her to do that, the only option is to be bounded again.
>>152677096
True, She could probably do that even in her litle form. Realiry changing powers and all.
i thought of it, but chose to not mention it.
Actually their child will be full vampire since they are both vampires.
>>152677011
> they created that bond again
How did they do it? Did she bite him again?
>>152677259
I believe that Gaen did it. He is a vampire again so she most probably did bite him again.
>>152677144
> And becasue Araragi does not want her to do that, the only option is to be bounded again.
No kids then.
>>152677259
Debatable. Araragi's vampirism is entirely bound to the strength of Shinobu's vampirism, he lives as a human, thinks of himself as one, and others think of him as one. So that might be enough for Monogatari magic because it's so damn fuzzy.
>>152671919
cute. translation never
>>152677610
He is in reality a full vampire, but he is so weak that he can be cinsidered human.
>>152677653
No wait that is wrong, while he might be a really weak vampire. he is still much more powerfull then the average human.
>>152677610
> Araragi's vampirism is entirely bound to the strength of Shinobu's vampirism
Yeah. She needs to be in teen form to get pregnant. When she is in teen form Araragi's vampirism is far stronger than usual. So they need to be almost full vampires to have kids.
>>152677634
Nisio will never write fucked up shit like this.
>>152677763
>the universe works this way because I say so
Yeah. You're not worth paying attention to.
>>152677763
He won't, but it's still in the list of probabilities.
>>152677763
>When she is in teen form Araragi's vampirism is far stronger than usual. So they need to be almost full vampires to have kids.
Shinobu an also go to that 13-14 year old form she took during Kabuki.
>>152677699
He worried that he might hurt Karen or Tsukihi if he fought them seriously, but he noted when Karen fought him that it was ridiculously of him to think that with her power.
He even flinched a bit when she threatens him in Tsukihi Phoenix.
Shit, those hips (and thighs) were made for breeding.
Reminder that an anon translated the commentaries for sodachi lost part 3
http://pastebin.com/SJgtYjAY
>>152678430
>Shit, those hips (and thighs) were made for breeding.>>152678290
Is this series over in the light novels? Or is the writer just milking it to his death bed
>>152678567
A new main season LN came out I think 2 weeks ago now.
>>152677884
He didn't use any of his Vampiric powers when fighting with Karen though and she appears to be way stronger than an average person could be anyways
>>152678585
Musubi is Off-Season
>>152678699
Oh shit you are right. With the content in it I was under the impression off-season ended with it.
Off-Season is just a name. It's a new part of the series as much as any other.
We have a Final Season that isn't the fucking end, of course the Off-Season is part of the mainline.
>>152678731
The off season did end with it. Now it's continuing on to Monster Season.
>>152678799
The point of off-season was to have focus on the story outside of Araragi, but in the end had another book about him so it was not that different from second season.
>>152678460
>Gahara: "But let's assume that your dislike of Araragi-kun and Tsukihi-san are understandable."
Why is her dislike for Tsukihi understandable but not her dislike for Karen? Or is it Gahara hating on bird? If so, she got even worse if that was even possible
>>152659460
Sauce me daddy
>>152678982
It's just that they talked already about Tsukihi in the second part.
>>152677640
Very cute.
>>152679298
RUDE! Tsukihi is an ally of justice, no, justice itself, not a scumbag
>>152679388
Tsukihi is pretty selfish, but calling her a scumbag is going too far.
>>152679944
It's probably just the translator choice of word that make it seems more aggressive.
They say kuzu.
>>152647426
>Sodachi: I fucking hate you Araragi.
>Koyomi: I know. Want to have lunch together?
>Sodachi: Yeah okay.
What?
>>152680171
She is a tsundere.
>>152680171
It's Sodachi. She hates Araragi.
>>152680171
Nothing compared to letting him in her home while wearing pajamas, or accepting living on his house.
>>152678982
>>152679298
So, Euler being tsundere extends to the whole Araragi household it seems.
Do the Fire Sister call her Onee-chan in Zoku-Owari? I remember Nadeko doing so in Nademonogatari
>>152680171
>>152680171
Hate is another word for love.
After watching Kizu 1 and 2 I just don't how could Duraragi not hit on Hanekawa. Such a waste of best girl.
>>152680569
Araragi is too beta to hit on anyone.
He only got together with Senjougahara because she had the guts to ask him instead.
>>152680544
Sodachi "hates" everyone. Except Hanekawa, though she thinks of her as some kind of inhuman monster.
>>152680655
So sad. If only Hanekawa had more courage.
>>152680569
He pretty clearly said that the way she acts scares him. For example, when she was bleeding out on the floor, her own life never entered the equation. She just thoughtlessly cast it off and kept trying to help him win. It wasn't bravery, it was just a total disregard for herself and she was basically scolding Araragi for having emotions and being worried about her. That's really fucking creepy and I don't blame Araragi for feeling like she isn't someone he can relate to.
>>152680686
To be fair, Hanekawa kind-of is an inhuman monster.
>>152634032
Aya's voice was perfect for her. I still miss it.
>>152681189
The exact mention was: "borderline monstrous honor student", but in general all her comments about Hanekawa are positive. Though in her head she seems to think better of people that are not Araragi than what she speaks about them.
>>152678982
She's assuming for the sake of argument.
>>152680171
After actually reading >>152647426
I think that their relationship is adorable now to be honest. They're both looking out for each other despite appearances.
>>152678290
What kind of fag wouldn't want to turn this into vampire kids factory?
>>152682318
plenty of shit taste anons prefer loli over adult version
>>152682377
That's just it though, you can have both or anything in between.
>>152682318
People who worry too much about providing for those kids.
>>152682318
>>152682992
100% accurate.
>>152682433
How does that loli vampire turn into sex bomb?
>t. just found some doujiins, don't know what the fuck is going on
> Shinobu's pregnant discussion
>>152683423
Like this.
>>152683513
So she has to eat some body part?
>>152683638
Watch the show or read the books, I'm not going to explain the plot.
>>152683423
It's an at-a-glance check of how powerful a vampire she is at the moment. She spends most of the series with her powers sealed because that way she doesn't have to eat people.
>>152683473
Like you don't want to pump her full of babies too.
>>152647426
>Araragi: I was worried. I thought you might be out on the street
Savage.
>>152667542
Are the subs listed there the ones generally agreed to be better? I remember people arguing a lot over which group did the Second Season and Tsuki better.
I'm rewatching right now so I might as well get the best subs I can find.
>>152682992
>>152684597
ANE for Bake.
Commie is best for SS because they had a good translator who cared. That translator quit after SS.
Bloatgirls for everything else.
>>152684715
I feel like such a pure crystallization of autism needs to be preserved, but I don't want it on my hard drive.
>>152684715
>>152684764
I'll be the to shoulder the bruden
>2017
>Kizu 3
>Owari 3
>Both HEAVILY featuring cakebat
HURRY UP SHAFT
>>152636072
cat will always be the worst fucking borefest in the show, don't listen to people saying she gets better, she only gets less bearable over time
>>152684715
+1 internet
Haven't seen this level of retard in a while. You're doing some god's work.
>>152637877
I haven't even watched kizu 1 yet because the LN was one of the worst imo. unless of course you are a batfag then it must be the best thing.
no fire sisters no watch
>>152685011
I remember this image being a big meme.
>>152685059
>no fire sisters no watch
shit taste
>>152679298
>>152678982
>shit talking burd
wow, fucking worst girl right there, I want to kill a bitch
>>152685193
Sodachi is like this to everyone but actually wants to be part of the Araragi family and probably likes both Fire Sisters secretly. She took them on the offer of living together as well.
Gahara has to learn some manners though.Shittalking her beloved's perfect and adorable little sister like this is not acceptable.
>>152685365
Senjougahara has been hard on the sisters from day one.
>>152685499
The only time they interacted in the tv series was that bit from SS. There's also the Gahara Summit short story.
>>152685620
She threatened to hurt Araragi's sisters in the very first episode.
Loli Vampire is cute. How do I into this series?
>>152685757
That's some DEEPEST LORE level of complex.
>>152685365
>Gahara has to learn some manners though.Shittalking her beloved's perfect and adorable little sister like this is not acceptable
That's actually a reference to the character commentary in Hitagi End, Part 3, when Gahara and Tsukihi have commentary duties.
>>152685893
Oh, didn't know that, seems like an odd combo for a commentary. Is it translated?
>>152685831
Not really. That is literally just the release order.
>>152685831
Just hit the download buttons in the order on that page.
doll is the most underrated monogatari
>>152686507
More like overrated. She's not actively boring like Hanekawa but she does nothing particularly interesting and all her best banter is stolen from Tsukihi. The fact that she has anyone claiming her as best girl is mind-boggling.
>>152686578
faggot
>>152686507
She used to be, but Yotsugi got a huge surge in popularity since Onimonogatari.
I think the most underrated girl is Karen.
>>152687078
Loser.
What do you think about Ougi?
>>152687136
faggot
>>152637877
You're still french so who won in the end?
>>152687152
>>152634032
>>152634114
>>152634318
>>152635262
>>152635639
>>152636372
>>152636411
>>152645884
Hirano Aya only voiced Shinobu in a Monogatari Drama CD but the only dialogue was announcing Chapter Titles.
It is really not a big loss.
Like she was just the announcer for the chapter title.
>>152687152
she's perfect. i'd do anything for ougi. i would die for ougi.
>>152687698
>>152636072
>one of the more interesting characters
>give her one of the more boring stories
What's the rationale for advising people to save Kizu for last? I feel like it would be better in Kizu's case to follow the LN order (Kizu between Bake and Nise) and then follow the anime order for the rest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYYZDkPw1vQ
>implying Tsubasa Tiger's soundtrack isn't GOAT
>>152688651
It's not fully out yet.
>>152688713
The best music happens when Araragi appears at the end.
>>152687152
Can't put into words. I also feel like I post about her too much in these threads but I can't help but reply.
>>152688350
The story is about her though. It's as interesting as she is.
>>152688651
Not fully out yet, and it cuts a lot of monologue and stuff. People feel it's more easy to digest if you are familiar enough with Araragi and Shinobu's personalities and circunstances. And they argue SHAFT probably adapted with the fact people are seeing it later into the series in mind.
I can see the point,but I don't know if it's right.
>>152689528
I think it might have more of its intended effect if you aren't familiar with Shinobu's personality. Her motivations are supposed to be a mystery.
>>152688651
Putting aside the fact that you can't even do that right now because Kizu isn't finished, one rationale is that doing it in release order is almost always the best idea. Do you move Hana too because the novel didn't come out in the same spot? Do you watch Koyomi before Owari?
It becomes a tangled mess trying to do everything "properly" when release order is simple and works fine
>>152689795
Hana being moved around invents some dramatic tension that didn't exist before, but is otherwise inconsequential. Kizu coming out 4 years late withholds some extremely important information from the viewer and radically alters the experience from what the original author intended to the point where some arcs are significantly worse due to lack of context.
>>152688651
I'd watch Kizu after Bake, like the novels were set up. Kizu sets the table for Shinobu breaking her silence in Nise. Plus they give some good additional context for Neko Kuro/Shiro and Kabuki.
I've been out of the loop for a while.
How many volumes are still unadapted/untranslated?
>>152689891
It's also important context for Shinobu Mail. Hearing someone other than Araragi use "Kiss-Shot" is supposed to wrench your gut.
>>152690102
Two in the main storyline. Then there are four volumes of not Araragi-centric stories. And Nisio just announced a new main storyline.
>>152690102
1 volume of owari
zoku-owari
and the ever-growing pile of off seasons that they may or may not adapt
>>152690102
Owarimonogatari part 3
Zokuowarimonogatari
Orokamonogatari
Wazamonogatari
Nademonogatari
Musubimonogatari
Shinobumonogatari (announced)
>>152689795
I guess I'm coming from the perspective that, at least for me personally, Neko doesn't work without the context from Kizu.
hehe
>>152690290
>>152690290
He clearly became a cop so he could cover for himself.
>>152690151
Te last volume in this off-season of supposedly non-araragi centered stories is all about Araragi.
So in the end it isn't really different from the Second Season books. I don't think they should be considered separated of the main series.
>>152690340
I was going to say that supernatural lolis don't have rights, then I remembered that he works in Gaen's supernatural police division so maybe that has changed.
>>152690370
Shaft said they would do off-season so it's just a matter of time.
>>152690386
>>152690389
They did? First time I hear about it. I thought the future of the adaptation after ZokuOwari was still uncertain.
>>152690462
I remember someone in these threads saying it multiple times so I only assumed it was true. The only thing I know that is completely confirmed is Owari Vol. 3.
>>152690427
As one of the side effects of living with Shinobu, Araragi now gets off on being bitten by little girls.
>>152690280
I think it works in either direction.
Kizu will make Neko more clear if you watch it first (especially Hanekawa's behaviour) but Nekomonogatari gives you enough to function as a standalone arc, and watching Kizu after will give you much more reason to be invested in the backstory. Stuff in Kizu will also feel more important if you understand what it caused.
>>152690492
They said they would adapt everything in the series, but that was long ago, when the Final Season was announced. So no one knows if the statement extends beyond that.
While Owari3 is the only certain thing, ZokuOwari is part of the Final Season so it is as good as confirmed as well.
So will they have Itamura direct Owari3/Zoku Owari, or will Oishi return?
>>152690492
I've never seen anybody claim they were going to animate the off season. It's discussed quite often and we have opinions but nobody knows.
On one hand I think they will (because Gatari is free money) but some of the off season arcs are going to be very strange to animate. Sodachi Fiasco is largely Math ranting to herself.
>>152690607
I think at the very least Musubimonogatari will be adapted, but I'm not too sure about the rest either.
>>152690545
Watching Nise before Kizu gives the big twist at the end away. It also reveals more of Shinobu's personality and takes away the hair-raising sense of encountering a vampire with unknown motivations, which is something that both Nisio as well as the film adaptations are trying to emphasize.
>>152690674
Some of the arcs might make good holiday special fodder like they did for Neko Kuro and Hana. They'd have to be short enough to fit in 4-5 episodes, though.
>>152690674
If they're gonna go into Monster season and the first book is about what it sounds like it's about then they'll need to at least do some of Shinobu's backstory.
>>152690937
At minimum for off-season they probably need to do Musubi and Nade.
>>152690966
Unless Tsubasa Sleeping and Acerola Bón Appétit are also important, so you basically have Waza, Nade and Musubi. But at this point might as well do it all, Sodachi Fiasco is most of Oroka and it should be fairly short as an adaptation since not much happens, so Oroka itself might be fully adapted in maybe 4-5 episodes.
>>152690545
For me, Neko first didn't function properly. I'll grant that "show don't tell" is a bit overused in criticism, but I think in this case it's valid. Some of the characters' feelings are too intense and specific to just be told that's how it is in dialogue or voice over. Without having seen why and how those feelings came about, parts of Neko felt arbitrary and unearned.
>>152691134
If it was me I would say just adapt everything but at this point I just want Owari 3 and Zoku out.
>>152691134
If Suicide-Master becomes important in Shinobumonogatari, then they'll have to animate Shinobu's backstory.
>>152691202
If Deathtopia is not in Shinobumonogatari at all, I would be really surprised.
>>152691247
I wonder how they'll handle the reveal at the end that Deathtopia is a grill.
>>152691247
The preview really sounds like it's saying that Shinobumonogatari is about Deathtopia coming to town. Sure, the previous one was a total bait and switch, but a wedding would make for a boring novel and a massive vampire confrontation would make for an interesting novel.
>>152691337
Maybe make her look super androgynous? Seishirou looked pretty girly after all.
>>152691164
They even bothered doing all of koyomimonogatari which was not fit for normal airing model. I doubt they'd skip something considering all of it is fairly important and the ones that you can argue aren't, like Sodachi Fiasco, Tsukihi Undo, Suruga Bonehead and Karen Ogre put together probably isn't even enough to fill a full season without having a considerably slow pacing.
>>152691337Floating kanji
>>152691391
>Seishirou looked pretty girly after all.
He looked pretty androgynous until fucking Rikiya Koyama's voice came out of his mouth.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
>>152692177
Cute!
>>152692417
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>>152639540
>shitty drama cd
I'm sorry that you can't into moon, the drama cd was entertaining enough.
>>152692449
So they mixed in a little bit of Stretch Armstrong to make Doll.
>>152668274
Not enough screentime for that
>>152692742
Hyakumonogatari was weird. The skits were pretty hit or miss.
>>152690937
She already got her backstory in waza, it's more than enough. The only thing she needs now is a reunion with Suicidemaster.
>>152693636
I was talking about what Shaft can't afford to skip in an anime adaptation. The conclusion of that conversation was "so much that they may as well do everything."
>>152692972
It was meant to be lighthearted banters without any context relevant to existing plot in bake and kizu except for sawarineko and golden week incident. It is fun to listen to if you are bored.
Spoiler-y question about Ougi:So, is Ougi (male) a reflection of Hanekawa's interior self, like Ougi (female) is Araragi's?
>>152693931
Hanekawa? Do you mean Kanbaru and yes.
>>152694012
Yeah, guess I was mistaking Ougi(female)'s convos with Cat during Math arcs with Monkey's arc convos.
>>152693931
From what I gather yes, Ougi just changes forms when she attaches to someone.
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>>152680171
Sodachi, or worst girl as shes more commonly known, shares the same birthday as me.
>>152694557
I'll ignore the first part if you say when is said birthday.
>>152694601
June 3, ya dingus.
>>152694557
How can you read that new chapter and not appreciate her more? I'm far from a mathfag but I can't imagine calling her worst girl either.
>>152694614
That information wasn't on that small wiki so I didn't know if it was published. Is she also canon 150cm tall as someone posted a long while ago if you have the information?
I didn't think much of these close ups the first time I watched, but rewatching Monogatari is giving me a mouth fetish or something, Stuff like pic related makes up a good portion of my screenshot folder now.
>>152694711
Me neither until my second viewing.
>>152694711
Monogatari is basically the only anime that gets lips right. Well, it's more specifically Watanabe's artstyle.
>>152694698
I don't know, all I know is that the best girl should have won the Ararararararagi bowl.
>>152694769
She became better looking in Musubi too.
>>152694769
She's a mostly flat murderous dyke.
How is she best girl?
>>152687107
karen is best girl - fit, tall, aura of happiness
>>152694871
She's disqualified for being retarded.
>>152694832
>mostly flat
I swear to christ m8 you take that back
>murderous
Don't know what you're referencing, must be from the LN's.
>how is she best girl?
Because tomboys hold the key to my heart(and dick)
>>152694950
She tried to kill Araragi in her first arc, then she felt super bad about losing control of her emotions and apologized to Araragi and became his friend and spent every night sleeping with her arm restrained until she lost the Rainy Devil.
>>152694950
Oh, well wasn't she under control of the monkey paw? I mean, it really wasn't her fault if she was cursed.
>>152695061
mean't for >>152695005
>>152695061
She wanted to kill Araragi, the Rainy Devil just acted for her.
>>152695061
Rainy Devil was just acting out her own desires. If you haven't noticed, it's kind of a theme with the series.
>>152695123
People need to remember what the Rainy Devil can do before Owari starts up again.
>>152695162
When is the new Monogatari anime anyway? I feel like everyone got distracted with Kizu.
>>152695185
We've had the requisite number of "owari 2 when?" posts. People haven't forgotten.
>>152695185
No date but it was announced back in I think March 2016 and with Kizu done it will hopefully start Fall 2017.
God damn it, now I'm remembering how great Dere-Shot is in the novel and I'm getting antsy to see it.