Magi

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>>152586676
Amon's equipped Alibaba is badass as fuck

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>>152586853
Fin.

>>152586876
Thanks anon.

>>152586876
Makes no sense

>>152587623

The way I see it, Sinbad is making them go through seven trials that are amalgamations/reflections of Sinbad's personal history.

>>152587475
Sure.

We need translations ASAP.

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>>152586770
>Arba reduced into tour guide now
My sides

wanna make the bet that the last one that Sinbad mindfucked is Alibaba?

>>152588600
That plot point has long sailed.

>>152588272
http://www.manganetabarespoiler.com/manga-spoiler/magi-335-spoiler
This here have some pages translated in english, hope that help

>>152586770
>Aladdin following the killer of his parents without any suspicion

This is Naruto tier.

>>152588702
Pretty sure he's just following the tits.

>>152587680
Hope we'll see some sort of Celendine doppelganger in the upcoming trials. I want to see how Judar will react to that.

>>152586640
>Don't worry,there still enought time for fighting
what?

>>152588731
He means that they still have time until the process of returning everyone to the rukh activates.

>>152588723
I am behind with Sinbad no Bouken. What happened between her and Judar?

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>>152588804
He chose her as his king and trained her to obtain djinn equip. A recent omake revealed that he had trouble making friends at the Sindria company because he was such a brat and that he considered her his only friend. (Page in question if you view the spoiler pic.)

>>152588859
Aww cute. It's gonna be sad when she dies then.

>>152588649
Thanks

>>152588702
Well, he hasn't called her the coolest girl yet.

>>152588470
Still better than literally all the other females in the series at this point who are completely useless.

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>>152589593
Mor is cooking delicious food for Baba as we speak.

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>>152590005
I doubt it anon.

This shit better not be just a series of trials they have to pass so Sinbad can just piss off and accept their wishes in the end.

>>152590129
Nah I hope Alibaba tears the faggot's heart out.

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>>152590050
You'll see. She'll get some practice in and make the best damn cake that was ever made for when her husbando comes home.

>>152590050
How will alibaba survive their first night?

>>152586876
So, I guess Alibaba and Hakuryuu fight Sinbad while Aladdin and Judar fight David?

>>152590986
Too soon to tell. So far it looks like they'll fight Sinbad at different stages of his life. Other enemies that are left are Arba and David. They'll probably both come into play at some point, too.

>>152591194
What about Ugo?

>>152591194
Can Ja'far enter this shit place, kick Sinbad's ass, make him cry and apologize?

>>152591303
Nope. Ja'far's just a zombie now.

>>152591213
Well last time we saw him David showed him and illusion of Solomon that told him that he could rest because he did a good job. Who knows what he's up to now.

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>>152591303
Among the people who were left behind, the only person who has a slight chance to make a surprise entrance is Hakuei. This panels of Hakuryuu returning her fan to her might be foreshadowing.
I wouldn't bet too hard on it though.

>>152591379
Like, what if David makes the illusion tell Ugo to attack them, would he do it? Would he hurt Aladdin if he thought Solomon wanted it?

>>152591448
I guess that's possible. But unless Aladdin believes that the illusion is the real Solomon, he'll probably only be pained by having to fight Ugo.

>>152591446
It's a crying shame how so many characters got the shaft like this.

>>152591561
Aladdin could very well be more powerful than David at this point. Maybe he can dispell the illusion.

>>152591624
Guess Ohtaka wanted to raise the stakes by having a "small group against the world"-type of situation. But the price was having most characters being unable to show off their skills or doing anything relevant at all.

>>152591684
I could see it. They'll probably have a reunion since Aladdin said a few times in chapter 333 that he wants to see him again.

>>152591446
I'm still mad Hakuei got shafted so hard from the entire series. What the fuck Ohtaka? The only females to get even focus are Arba and Fish, the later who only got more recently. Morg became a literal who and is now only waifu-tier, Hakuei only became relevant because Arba possessed her, Nerva was a complete joke etc.

I can't wait for the story to end. I like Magi but recently, esp since the end of the Kou Empire arc, feels like a drag to read at times.

>>152591793
If you really want the story to end that badly, why don't you just drop it?

Getting really tired of god emperor Sinbad now. Not because of this chapter, but because this arc is paradoxically more boring than Alma Torran by sheer virtue of nothing interesting happening. Once we got to the sacred realm the entire arc just dropped in quality. I actually miss adventures of Alibaba and Econimics and that's not to say it was bad, but it was more captivating than what's happening right now.

>>152591846
>nothing interesting happening.
>I actually miss adventures of Alibaba and Econimics
The irony

>>152591832
So I am not allowed to say my negative opinion on the series? And I don't drop it because as I said I still like it but yes, it has its problems which are not so small to ignore. It's also towards it's ending so I am gonna stick it with.

>>152591906
It was the best part of this arc by a country mile. Not that that's a particularly high standard in the first place.

>>152591906
Applying ice talismans to refrigeration was better than what we have now.

>>152591964
>So I am not allowed to say my negative opinion on the series?
I never said that. I just don't see the logic in following a story that you hope ends.

>>152592014
>refrigeration
That was the most interesting thing you could come up with?

>>152591973
I mainly wish we had gotten more relationship development in this arc. The characters had a lot of conflicts with each other but most of it got resolved easily or brushed aside.

>>152592085
I'm sorry, maybe you like mass teleportation, how it can impact shipping and trade, and how it posed a threat to Sinbad's monopoly on airship based transport?

It was all good and little things like the talismans were nice worldbuilding alongside the larger innovations.

>>152591744
What'll happen to Ugo, I wonder? Aladdin wants to destroy the SP, so I doubt things will end well for Ugo no matter what happens.

>>152592229
I didn't even consider that! It would be sad if he died, but maybe there is some other way.

>>152592075
> I just don't see the logic in following a story that you hope ends.
I see it more as an emotional thing than logic. Magi is good but has lost a lot of it's appeal. Personally, the reason I want it to end, regardless that's on the road to do about that, it's because it feels like it's dragging, I don't enjoy it as much as before and I'm still reading it because it's something I do weekly. There were times I was putting it on hold because I got bored with it but always came back to see what's going on. You can say it's unreasonable but that's how I feel about it.

>>152592279
I'm just shooting in the dark here, but maybe he'll get reincarnated as a human by Aladdin before he destroys the SP.

>>152592460
Sounds good. I'm curious what the world will be like once the group has accomplished its goal.

>>152592224
Yeah, the corporate competition between Alibaba and Sinbad, and learning of all the econmomic woes of Kou and how Alibaba will get them out of it were the most interesting aspects of this arc for me. Fish also went through the best character development before Sinbad brainwashed her.

>>152592554
>before Sinbad brainwashed her.
I'm not a fishfag and I'm still mad about the Zephyr reveal during the war. Fuck mind control man. Fuck Sinbad.

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This is why I just can't bring myself to like Aladdin as a character. He's too whiter-than-white. He's basically the beacon of morality in this series who can do no wrong; someone kills the person who raised you? Forgive them. Someone kills your best friend and chosen King? Forgive them. Someone kills your mother in the most brutal of ways and massively fucks over your father? Forgive them. He's a caricature of Shounen MC's at this point.

Alibaba's the same, but to a lesser extent. Forgiving the guy who literally killed you out of pure malice is asinine.

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>>152592706
Sorry I have forgotten, but were the other two people Sinbad was controlling, revealed? I have a feeling we still don't know who the third person is.

>>152592735
>He's a caricature of Shounen MC's at this point.
I wish I could agree, but being this ridiculously forgiving, simple-minded and pure as a pretty big trend in shounen when I look at all the other series I've read over the years.

Some end before things get THIS ridiculous, but generally speaking heroes who carry grudges, justified or not, and better yet, hold onto them, are actually fairly rare, at least in mainstream works.

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>>152592735
I agree. I like Hakuryuu now, but everyone forgiving him for straight up murdering Alibaba so quickly was silly, especially Morgiana and Aladdin himself. That one guy form his household wanted revenge but Aladdin talked him down in one page.

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>>152593034
I think there was some precedent with Morg since she didn't kill the slaver guy Fatima either, despite hating slavers according to one guidebook and there being no guarantee that he won't go and just do the same shit yet again.

But he didn't hurt anyone that she had a very strong bond with, so it didn't stick out like a sore thumb unlike later events.

>>152592735
One of the basic concepts in Magi are the power and ability, if we can name them that, to forgive anyone who has done bad/awful things to you or your beloved ones because that's the only way to move forward according to Aladdin and the story in general.

It's one of the problems I have with the story and why I believe Hakuryuu going through his revenge was a better thing to do and not forgive Arba, and still hasn't (Judar as well). Sadly, our MC duo are out of this world because of this ideal. Morgiana too when she forgave Hakuryuu. It's basically the reason I don't care for the trio although Baba at least takes good action and has a thing with his words at times.

As a Hakuryuu fan, as much as I like him, the guy deserved more punishment for the shit he did and Aladdin with Morgiana shouldn't have forgive him. And do not let get me start about the white-black rukh thing.

>>152592906
Main characters seem to operate on two extremes when it comes to Shounen: Either they're completely pure of heart and are immune to corruption, never succumbing to internal conflict or indulging base human desires, or they are mentally unstable psychopaths who are so hell-bent on revenge that they fuck up everything around them.

Magi contains examples of both.

>>152593196
Yeah, people basically fell into depravity when they carried a strong grudge and couldn't let go until they cursed destiny. So it was grudges vs forgiveness from the start and didn't always mesh well with the politics aspect of the story.

I kinda hope that Hakuryuu and Judar stay firm on Arba, but I could see Ohtaka writing them into forgiving her, too.

>>152593233
Yeah, it's basically as you say. I dunno if so many authors go for these extremes because they don't think the target demographic of 12-16-yos can handle anything more complicated or if it's something they do for max. drama. Either way, it gets tiresome after a while and I appreciate the few shounen authors that go against the grain.

>>152593034
While I sort of understand her point of view given her personality, it still felt off. This guy killed the man you loved, yet she barely says anything about it. Even worse she became friends with him again during the time skip. I'm not asking her to go full Guts, but a little anger would have been justified.

>>152593490
I'm with you on this. It would have been also nice to see what happened in the 3-years-time-skip, like her seeing him work as an emperor and how he has really improved and then she starts to slowly trust him again. It would have been good development for them both.

>>152593312
Yup, which while it's an interesting concept to expand and see the potential of the effects it has on the characters and the story in general, at the same time it can fall to your dual shounen tropes of good vs bad ignoring why these characters had grudges in first place and can't let go. Which in most cases the reasons are very reasonable like war in your country, killing of beloved ones etc. It's not because they killed someone or made bad actions, this usually comes after they fall into depravity, but the reasons they can't forgive and move on are, in most cases so far, justifiable.

> I kinda hope that Hakuryuu and Judar stay firm on Arba, but I could see Ohtaka writing them into forgiving her, too.
It's something I can also see happening and I hope to god Ohtaka won't do this. I can let Aladdin's case pass, because he was a baby when Arba did what she did to his parents but Hakuryuu and Judar had 20 years of her awful actions that made them unhappy and full of revenge characters.

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>>152593598
I suppose the series is still doing more than I expected since Hakuryuu's talk with Aladdin in the Kou empire arc and Aladdin's later doubts about whether falling into depravity is really bad actually payed off in the plot. But it happened very late and much more could have been done with it.

Judar and Hakuryuu being both scared and pissed at Arba and anything related to her is good at least. Also, Haku's speech about how they will not always agree on everything might be also a sign that maybe they'll be allowed to keep their anger.

>>152593312
>grudges vs forgiveness from the start and didn't always mesh well with the politics aspect of the story.
I'm surprised that there aren't more people that fell into depravity given how war torn the world of Magi is. Even if we restrict it to just people in leadership positions there should be a fair number of people on the losing side of any conflict that fall into depravity.

>>152593801
>I'm surprised that there aren't more people that fell into depravity given how war torn the world of Magi is. Even if we restrict it to just people in leadership positions there should be a fair number of people on the losing side of any conflict that fall into depravity.

That part was always pretty unrealistic. I thought that the whole concept of falling into depravity and black vs white rukh was interesting, but I feel like it should have been fleshed out more than it actually was. There was never an explanation why there weren't much more fallen people in the world. I suppose the biggest incidents were usually related to Al-Thamen riling up people even further, but there were also cases were people became fall even without their involvement.

>>152593779
>But it happened very late and much more could have been done with it.
Yes. I liked the speech Hakuryuu gave to Aladdin after that fight and that it really made Aladdin rethink the whole concept of depravity. But not only it got introduced late into the series but the fact that Hakuryuu when back to white rukh (yes, he could not have killed Kouen and still remain in depravity) is something that still leaves a bitter taste in me. It's like saying black rukh is bad while white rukh is good, which we know by now it's not the case but well, it keeps happening.

I am with you in this. I hope they won't forgive Arba and be allowed to not be the white knights of forgiveness as the main trio is.

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>>152593408
That's the thing, I think Magi is a prime example of a really good story with the potential to become e great one, but is massively held back by its demographic. The series is part of a genre that too strictly adheres to conventions that dilute nuance that can make characters truly compelling, and Aladdin has been hit the hardest by these conventions.

I honestly believe that Magi would have worked better as a Seinen. Ohtaka incorporates a plethora of themes that authors simply don't have the freedom to work with because the target audience is essentially children.

There are some exceptions, like Togashi with HxH, but he's a complete anomaly. Not many authors enjoy the same luxuries from their magazine as he does.

>>152594022
>It's like saying black rukh is bad while white rukh is good, which we know by now it's not the case but well, it keeps happening.
I'm relived that at least Judar hasn't become white so far. After Hakuryuu I was convinced that the end goal was to turn him, too, one way or another. But yeah, if it's not bad, Haku could have stayed fallen. My only consolation is that he became white once he had already spared Kouen, Fish and the other Rens. So at least that proves that fallen people are not incapable or mercy or empathy. I suppose Judar proved this, too, to some degree by caring for Haku no matter what.

>>152592706
Fuck this whole chapter rise so much great potential plot point but then got all throw out of the window.

>Alibaba learning what it take to be a true Leader/King
>Nah, you will be death for 3 years so you no need to learn about those dirty methods, just keep your mind pure

>Alibaba working with the Kou vs Sinbad
>You're death so stay out of this

>How can Alibaba take back Balbadd in this situation
>Timeskip, not gonna explain shit

I wonder how many chapters each trial will last, this could take a while.

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>>152590129
If Sinbad is as dickish as Ugo was, he'll let them get close enough to actually think they'll win before crushing any hope.

>>152594034
Yeah, a pity since her previous series was even seine (even if it was a harem comedy).

Maybe a more niche shounen magazine could have already made a difference. I feel like she's more daring with SnB which is in UraSunday.

>>152591624
I'll be even more annoyed if Sinbad doesn't use his household vessels as opponents for them.

>>152594169
We have 15 chapters left and that's not accounting for destroying the palace and any other unforseen events. I wonder if they'll even do all 7 or if they break the rules halfway through and just try to go for Sin directly.

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>>152594179
I still wonder why Ohtaka did this. Did she never intend to go there and it was all just drama bait to make readers worry or did she cancel her plans for some reason?

>>152594314
I feel like Ohtaka may have that plan in her head but don't actually know how to continue the manga from there. So she just scraped that idea for the one right now

>>152594402
It would have certainly been more complicated to execute. It's quite possible that it is as you say - she wrote herself in a corner and swerved for an easier plot direction.

>>152594230
That's a good point. Maybe he can even get other people to fight against the MC's along with his household.

If characters like Kouen, Yunan, Titus, Muu and the rest of the Fanalis can't fight against Sinbad, then I at least hope they will fight for him. Anything just so long as they aren't completely sidelined.

>>152594146
I am ready to see white rukh Judar any moment now but I hope whatever this team does, it crushes Solomon's system of white-blakh rukh so none will be in one of the two categories.

> So at least that proves that fallen people are not incapable or mercy or empathy. I suppose Judar proved this, too, to some degree by caring for Haku no matter what.
The fallens are very emotional characters. They got fucked up in their lives pretty bad before they fall into depravity, that's why it was easier for them to develop such intense hate and revenge actions. Judar was forced to depravity from what Arba said during her fight with Yunan by her, which makes sense because a kid can't have such strong negative feelings: it's a kid (I mean it took Hakuryuu almost 20 years to fall while still hating that witch and he fell only because of Belial's test which ironically, helped him even more). And I think all the fallens can feel empathy, mercy and any positive feelings while in depravity but because their hate is on the max, they rely mostly on that feeling. The last moments of Dunya and Mogamett can prove this.

>>152594576
>And I think all the fallens can feel empathy, mercy and any positive feelings while in depravity but because their hate is on the max, they rely mostly on that feeling. The last moments of Dunya and Mogamett can prove this.
That's a good point and I haven't considered this. You're right that fallen people having more "positive" emotions was something that was established in early arcs. It just didn't leave the impact it could have on me because they turned white and died so quickly every time.

>>152586743
> Sudden Arba
> "Hey guys."

>>152594221
You'd think Weekly Shounen Sunday would be niche enough, since it's far below the likes of Jump and Magazine in circulation and sales, but apparently not.

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This page is great. Four kids and it looks like another one is in the oven judging from Morgiana's stomach. I guess Alibaba plans on making his very own Fanalis Corps.

>>152586853
God I hope we get a S3 soon.

>>152594034
>There are some exceptions, like Togashi with HxH,
HxH is hardly any different than most Shonen.

>>152594764
It's easy to miss because the focus is more on them being deprived and not why they fall and trying to help them with this hate. I mean Cassim still wanted to protect his country and make it better for it's people while sacrificing himself to become a dark vessel or what that thing is called; Dunya was still in love with Issac while still on depravity and even why she fell on depravity, he was one of the main reasons; Mogamett helped humans with his magic and when he fell into depravity because of what they did to him and his family, he still at the very end wanted something better for everyone although his means were driven by justifiable hate (not his actions though); Hakuryuu and Judar just wanted a normal family but none inside the Kou palace reached out to them (Kouen knew but he didn't act - although I do also blame Hakuryuu here for not reaching to him) and while on depravity they showed signs of caring for each other at least. I am still waiting for Sinbad's case but from the hints so far, it's gonna be sad as fuck.

>>152596014
You serious? It has violence and implications that border on Seinen levels at times.

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>>152595937
Hopefully by Lay-duce instead of A-1.

>>152595605
>4 kids
You mean 3 and one for delivery. The kid near Yamu is her her son with Sharrkan. He is holding a sword and his hair style is identical to Sharrkan's.

>>152596192
This so much. Fuck A-1.

>>152596206
We're having a nice thread. Leave that shit at the door.

>>152596179
I'd say that while HxH does mix between shonen and seinen portrayals of similar tropes. But at the end of the day it's still more shonen at it's core, but not afraid to take some ideas to their logical conclusion such as how a Shonen protagonist usually has a type of morality that lets them forgive their enemies and how that can backfire when they actually get their jimmies rustled.

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I want Arba to be my mommy

>>152596650
Whoever drew this should be very ashamed of themselves.

>>152596511
> We're having a nice thread. Leave that shit at the door.
I'm sorry but what part of my reply is offensive or bad that can turn the thread into a not nice one? I was simply pointing out to anon about the 4th kid being the son of Sharrkan and Yamu, not Baba and Morg's.

>>152596741
I'm retarded read Yamu as just where the kid was standing, not as the mother. Thought you were saying that Morg and Sharrkan had a kid.

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>>152596873
That's better.

>>152596650
Does Arba have Downs Syndrome here?

>>152596832
Eh I see. Well, be more careful next time. Another anon might reply in different manner than me and shit starts.

>>152596971
>Well, be more careful next time.
Yes Mom.

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>>152594150
>>Nah, you will be death for 3 years so you no need to learn about those dirty methods, just keep your mind pure
This is really the problem I have with Alibaba's development. He never has to make those hard decisions that Harkyuu has too regarding leadership. When he shows up after the time skip he's still able to do the "pure" thing needed in order to solve a problem. He never has to deal with being the one in a position to stop global war through duplicitous means. He has Aladdin for that. Unless I'm forgetting something. I also wish he had been given a chance to really develop a household. It would have been more characters and solidified his position as a king candidate in my mind. As it is he's amazing at managing a situation but I don't know if I'd consider him a "king" yet.

>>152596511
Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't think HxH is more of a Seinen than a Shounen, but it is certainly more willing to entertain darker themes than the majority of Shounen out there. And it's less afraid to highlight the flaws of its MC's as well.

Sinbad would probably be dead by now if Aladdin had a similar mental fragility to Gon.

Still, it does share weaknesses with other Shounen, like sacrificing the integrity of the writing to accommodate prominent characters - Gon and Hisoka being two good examples.

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>>152597193
>I also wish he had been given a chance to really develop a household.
I disagree on some points, but this right here. This by far one of my biggest peeves in the entire series. The guy might as well not even have a household. What do they even do? They're another group of character whose development I feel was completely neglected and potential wasted.

That's an advantage that SnB has over Magi, we see Sinbad actually build his household gradually, and the household members themselves get decent panel time and development, for the most part anyway.

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I would like to make Morgiana a mother and treasure her forever and always.

>>152586676
Baba is fucking awesome, I want his babies !!

>>152597835
No, the mass suicide is happening in a few days, maybe if it was a year away it'd be worth it since the baby would be born by then but there's no reason to bother planting a baby in her when it won't even be developed enough to be reborn in Sinbad's new and glorious world.

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>>152597916
Fuck Sinbad and his world, I want Morgiana's heart and body.

Translations here

http://sayakakat2012.tumblr.com/post/156272378273/magi-335-spoilers

>>152597909
>I want his babies !!
Anon, boy can't get pregnant.

>>152588470
>Arba reduced into tour guide now
KEK.
My sides

>>152598617
What is the thing that Sinbad regrets? His papa feelings for Baba?

>>152598617
Thanks anon.

> Alibaba: But, won’t you come to the dungeons?
> Aladdin: Take good care, Miss Arba
The fuck is wrong with them trusting Arba so easily? I get the plot needs to advance somehow but they are stupid.

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Who wants to marry a Fish?

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Reminder that Alibaba is Ugo's reincarnation.

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>>152599078
Reminder that Alibaba is hot.

>>152598935
Yeah, we've been talking about how the MC's are too trusting and naive. I guess Alibaba has an excuse since he doesn't know her as well as the other three do.

>>152599052
Me.
Still disappointed that she wasn't end up with Baba. But I don't hate Morg, she is fine too.

>>152598812
>Implying I'm a boy

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>>152599078
I swear to god if this happens.

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I just want more panels of Morgiana's thicc legs. Though they seem really inconsistent. Sometimes they are stocky and muscular looking, like they should be. But other times her legs are skinny as fuck.

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Procreation when?

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>>152599318
Her legs are perfect just like her.

Damn Baba, calm down with the posting, we saw the future you're going to have a bunch of kids.

>>152597438
It's the nature of the narrative when compared to SnB. This isn't Alibaba's story it's still very much so Aladdins story about fixing the world. I just wish that instead of giving him a timeskip with no room for improving his Household they instead gave him new people or brought older characters into it. But thinking about it, there aren't many relevant people right now in the story who aren't already magi, king vessels and/or metal vessel users, or most recently mind controlled which would make his household useless unless they were depraved.

>>152599557
>Baba shitposting instead of fighting Sinbad
Unacceptable.

>>152586659
With that hair style, Sinbad looks like that Aquarion's gay angel

>>152599557
>This isn't Alibaba's story it's still very much so Aladdins story about fixing the world
Eh, I'd argue that overall Alibaba gets a bit more attention from the author, and therefore the narrative, than Aladdin does.

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>>152586876
Welcome to SAINT MAGI SEIYABABA

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Post you 3 fav characters.

1. Alibaba
2. Mogamett
3. Kouen

>>152599918
You're not wrong. And certainly the story has shifted to Alibaba ever since the magic academy ended. But given how much of the story before focused on Aladdin's life, ideology, and growth. By comparison the arcs that feature Alibaba feel much shorter and more rushed. I don't feel like he completely took the MC hat from Aladdin.

>>152600068
1.Judar
2.Fish
3.Hakuryuu

>>152600068
1. Arba
2. Sinbad
3. Judar/Alibaba

>>152600068
1. Hakuryuu
2. Ja'far
3. Judar/Drakon

>>152600149
>I don't feel like he completely took the MC hat from Aladdin.
They pretty much share it. On paper Aladdin is the protagonist, and the narrative doesn't change that, he had an entire arc all to himself in Magnostadt. But when the two are together, Alibaba is the one who generally dominates the spotlight. This latest chapter is a good example of that.

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Get rollin

>>152601447
roll

>>152601447
Rollin'.

>>152601447
Roll

>>152601447
Rolling

>>152601447
Best girl please.

>>152596021
Why is it the fault of a child that he didn't reach out to someone he had ample reason to suspect? Kouen was the adult, he should have made the effort.

>>152601447
Going to land me a fish

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>>152601992
Lucky you.

>>152602033
15-16 years old is not a child anymore. I didn't mean Hakuryuu at 8 or 10 but growing up, he could reach someone older who has power over the country about this. The issue between Kouen and Hakuryuu is that neither tried to reach and make an effort to understand each other. Hakuei never saw anything wrong with Hakuryuu until it was too late. Kouen saw it before her but didn't act. I do think Kouen is more at fault here because as you said he is older than Hakuryuu and an adult so he should have made the first move but Hakuryuu also didn't make an effort when he got older. He realizes this when he is talking with Kouen before the fake execution, that the whole situation is not as he thought so and that he and Kouen are not so different. Their differences basically go down to how approach the Arba topic and defeat her. Kouen was a coward but Hakuryuu got to survive the fire and thus he was more emotionally motivated to kill her even if it meant a civil war.

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>>152602404
Wanting to kill Arba is fine, but why Kouen? He somehow came to the assumption that he conspired with Arba to kill his side of the family. He never inquired to anybody about it, he just went with that assumption for years on end and caused a civil war that tore their country apart with no proof at all to go off of. Kouen may have been at fault for not reaching out to Hakuryuu first, but how was he to know just how off the deep end Hakuryuu was?

>>152586876
spin off is canon?

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>>152601447
Grant me Arba, Il Ilah

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>>152603313
I wasnt talking to you, Solomon.

>>152603236
> He somehow came to the assumption that he conspired with Arba to kill his side of the family. He never inquired to anybody about it, he just went with that assumption for years on end and caused a civil war that tore their country apart with no proof at all to go off of.
For all that. He never talked with him about it. Making assumptions based on stuff you don't know and using these assumptions to make a point is also wrong. Hakuryuu was at wrong here.

> but how was he to know just how off the deep end Hakuryuu was?
Kouen knew well enough that Hakuryuu wanted to kill Arba and that's why he placed Phoenix on him. He admits (through Arba) that even if Hakuryuu went through hell it was better than letting him get his revenge and kill Arba because that would cause a civil war and his ideal of world doesn't permit separation. He also says he regrets not killing Hakuryuu sooner and also underestimating him because of Arba.

I don't see what's so difficult to understand. Both didn't reach to each other for their own reasons but we see before Kouen's execution that both didn't realize this could be solved sooner if they have tried. But it was probably too late when Hakuryuu went to Sindria. Also, if you see something wrong with someone and know that if reaching them might solve a problem you both face but don't act, then it will come to bite you in the ass. That happened to Kouen at the end.

>>152603273
It's always been canon. Why would you assume it wasn't?

>>152603633
*did realize

>>152603633
I know both were in the wrong. I'm just saying that Hakuryuu should have been able to approach the situation with more tact than to blindly go to war with half the country on a mere assumption. He threw away hundreds and thousands of lives for nothing in the end.

>>152604138
Hakuryuu was full of hate during that time. He saw nothing and none. Judar even says that after killing Arba he directed his hate to Kouen because he had to hate someone.
> He threw away hundreds and thousands of lives for nothing in the end.
Well he did become a better emperor after this but yes the means to go there were bad. But there was no other option if you think about it. I'm not excusing him because there is nothing to excuse but it's how this had to happen apparently.

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Dumping the new omake.

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>>152605316
And Sinbad is OP as fuck. Yunan would be lucky if Sinbad didn't somehow blow up the entire world. Maybe he should honestly just give up.

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>>152605316
Damn, that's dark for an omake. Usually they're so cute and comfy.

>>152605316
Thanks anon. Poor Yunan. I understand why he doesn't want to deal with other humans anymore. Also, Omake of which volume is this?

I want Hakuryuu and Judar to take turns fucking each other in the ass.

>>152604382
I can kind of see the point that Hakuryuu was too far gone in his mindset to really be able to change it at that point. And Judar egging him on only made it worse. But just like you said, Hakuryuu just wanted to vent on Kouen because Arba wasn't around anymore and his need for vengeance hadn't been satiated yet. The blood of countless people will forever remain on his hands.

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>>152605636
Me too, anon, me too.

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>>152605742
Good taste.

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>>152605636
I fully agree with your idea, anon.

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>>152605869
I'm rooting for their happy ending. And a flashback to their reunion. Or maybe the volume 33 omake will be about that.

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I'm ready for you this time, fujos. Here's my counterattack.

>>152605316
Shit was dark, but it explains pretty well why Yunan is how he is and why he was so quick in stop trusting Sinbad. He had 8 lesser Sinbads before him.

>>152605982
I'm just rooting for them to be together and waifuless at the end. Give Fish to Aladdin so people stop thinking she's an option for Judar.

I know we're not going to get a confirmed pairing or anything but I'll take what I can get.

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>>152606109
But anon, I like LionBaba AND homoedge.

>>152606125
I was pretty annoyed that he sent Sinbad into a dungeon and then rarely ever contacted him. Yunan's logic probably was "everything I touch turns to shit, maybe it will go better if I am as little involved as possible".

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>>152606143
That would be the best and most realistic ending. I guess I also hope that Ohtaka won't get the glorious idea of killing one or both of them off.

>>152605198
Yuniko a qt

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>>152606282
I've been scared for Haku for a while now, seems like Ohtaka loves torturing the guy.

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>>152605982
>>152606143
Same anons. I hope for flashback in an omake and the being alive, together and waifuless at the end. I'm afraid Ohtaka will give a random waifu to Hakuryuu though. Not so much with Judar/Fish as neither have express this kind of interest to each other so far and I think she will go Aladdin/Fish at the end.

>>152606109
Bring it on.

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>>152606176
Good to see your taste isn't entirely shit

>>152606356
Fine

>>152606356
Yeah, I think Aladdin/Fish will happen too but just in case.

I do fear Haku's gonna get a random girl because of Aladdin's comment though. Hope not.

>>152606282
>>152606355
Well, all 4 will die in the Sacred Place so there is that. I doubt she will kill him after that. She likes to torture him but there will be a happy ending for the main cast, I'm sure.

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>>152606398
I'll even support your cause.

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>>152606355
>>152606356
Well, I hope that Hakuryuu is a case where the author tortures the character throughout the whole manga but then gives him/her a break by the end.

If he died I don't know what Judar would do. Go back to his hometown probably. Still pretty sad to imagine.

Also, yeah no random waifu for him please.

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>>152606409
Yeah, that's why I said I fear for random waifu to Hakuryuu. Aladdin's comment has me on the edge but I hope editor's comment at the same page also means something.

>>152606398
Short hair Morg looks better.

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>>152606462
You're a good person

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>>152606525
I hope you're right anon. Not only for the sake of the ship but Judar as well. Just let him keep his husbando even if it's non explicitly. I'll take it.

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>>152606578
You too.

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>>152606409
Actually I checked the raws and even asked Eleore. Apparently Aladdin just says "person" in the original, not girl. Sense probably just thought that "girl" sounds more natural in this situation.

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>>152606526
Mor looks perfect whatever her hairstyle.

>>152606526
I know that nips went apeshit over that editor comment when chapter 314 came out. They shitposted like crazy about edgebro marriage and whether that meant that the editors were pushing the pairing.

>>152606659
Well, Sense needs to stop assuming things then, they're becoming another NS.

But thank you anon, that actually makes me a lot happier about the situation.

>>152606525
> If he died I don't know what Judar would do. Go back to his hometown probably. Still pretty sad to imagine.
Please no. I want them for once in their life to have a happy life with no Arba to be afraid and no more suffering in general. They had enough.

>>152606659
Thanks again Sense.

>>152606776
I remember Sense translating 314's line as "Will you marry me?" when it's not even a question in the original text kek

>>152606766
No prob. The way Eleore explained it to me, inserting gender would be even unnatural in the type of sentence that Aladdin was saying there.

So yeah, the gender of Hakuryuu's future beloved is ambiguous and we have that editor comment.

Plus, I remember that in the databook and one sticker, Judar was always the only character who didn't have a specific gender mentioned whenever discussion turned to who his type is ("strong people" and "someone who is his opposite").

Maybe that does mean something.

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>>152606742
>edgebro marriage

What I wouldn't give for this.

>>152606716
I think short hair would look better on her because it would give focus on her cute face and the shape of her eyes Just another grill commenting on another grill even 2D

>>152606742
I saw something about it because I follow 1-2 of them on Twitter but yeah good luck on me with translating through Google translate. And thanks for the info. At least we are not the only ones you went crazy about it.

>>152606919
Didn't Judar also say in an omake that he finds women boring?

I might be reaching in the end but it definitely feels like he's gay as fuck.

>>152606952
I do wonder what her hair would look like if she let the giant ponytail loose with the short cut though.

>>152606838
As the other anon said they are becoming like NS. I understand that translating from Japanese or any other language has difficulties but at least stay on text as close as possible. Changing 'person' to any gender or making questions on text when there is not on the original doesn't seem right. But I'm not a translator so I can only comment with the available sources I have.

>>152606952
*Who went

>>152607055
I'm sure it will look awful. I never liked that giant ponytail. It doesn't look good on her, esp if she let it down. Either give her back her first hairstyle or have it short or long as a whole.

>>152606952
There were a lot of comments about the Judar/Hakuryuu on the day the chapter came out. I went through quite a few via babelfish and nips were pretty excited.

There are also quite a few Alimorfags who like Juader/Hakuryuu and or are at least positive about the paring. I follow some of them and whenever they have a nice interaction they always say that they're like a married couple or just shitpost how great they are for each other.

>>152607096
I remember seeing another translation floating around when Alibaba was talking to Morgiana about returning to the ruhk and in the flashback of the proposal it used "Marry me", the correct translation. I don't know why Sense can't just translate things as they are.

Making the dialogue "more interesting" can rob of context sometimes.

>>152606995
>Exposed midriff
>Wears eyeshadow
>Favorite food is peaches

Yeah he's gay

>>152607184
I personally don't really mind as long as she doesn't actually let it down but it makes me wonder how weird it must look when she goes to wash it or something. It can't stay up forever.

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>>152606766
>they're becoming another NS.

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>>152606949
It would be the wedding of the century.

>>152607336
I'd forgotten about that one kek

Even worse.

>>152606995
Judar is obviously gay.
Hakuryuu probably not, but has serious bromance with him.

>>152607296
I've seen some fanart where it looks like she has a hime cut when she undoes her ponytail. But I guess that's the most positive spin on it.

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>>152607429
Maybe Hakuryuu can swing both ways, who knows. He ain't getting lion pussy so he might as well take someone who wants him.

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>>152606995
Speaking of which, is Kouha gay or not?

>>152607206
I'm glad Nips like it, even more so that some of them who like NL are fine with Juhaku. Which makes me think that I doubt anyone in both fandoms would have a problem if Ohtaka made them canon. Hakumor is dead, Judar/Fish fans have jumped on Aladdin/Fish and really I think most would be surprised Ohtaka went homo pairing than they actually got together after all that happened between them.

>>152607296
I even wonder with all that weight on one side how she doesn't have neck problems. Her head must hurt at times with all that hair up.

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>>152607457
All Magis are incredibly sexual. Yes even David.

>>152607481
>Kouha will turn into a manwhore

You wait and see.

>>152606578
Can Morg's kids turn into lions?

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>>152606995
>>152607243
>>152607429
Well if Ohtaka wants us to assume that he's straight, she's certainly not doing a very good job there.

>>152607559
Probably. At least the boy has Fanalis eyelashes so at least he should be able to, right?

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>>152607545
Kouha turned into a slutty trap looking guy. What if wonder is if he goes for fujos or if he enjoys the cock.

>>152607520
I'll take Aladdin/Fish over Judar/Fish any day. Judar has expressed zero interest in her while Aladdin got that one boner from poking her hair or something. Only option for Judar is Hakuryuu.

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>>152607577
He's anything but straight.

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>>152586876
fuck this is gonna be sick. Can't wait to see teenaged despairbad

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>>152607479
Well, he says pretty gay shit about him whenever they're separated. His sweet comment about wanting to talk with Judar about all sorts of things in the extra paper certainly surprised me.

It's also notable that Hakuryuu at one point screwed over and betrayed everyone that cared about him. Yet ironically, despite initially only wanting to use him, he never betrayed him once they became friends.

>>152607237
I understand that translation has it's difficulties but really, I doubt shounen have that much difficult kanji or phrases to make an exact translation. Adding questions or changing how a character addresses others, gender words etc. can cause a lot of confusion and change how the readers perceive a character. It can lead to complete different opinions from the original.

>>152607784
Yeah, this is why I've only been skimming through their chapters for pretty art these days. And they even messed that up last week.

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>>152607747
Maybe he's bi, but if so, he certainly comes across as more interested in men than women.

>>152607689
I wonder how Aladdin/Fish would work. I get Solomon/Sheba vibes from them.

>>152607869
This matches with what this anon said >>152607771.
Even with his "love" for Morgiana she was still never a priority, I guess? People love saying his confession was so heartfelt and romantic but what has he done for her, really. He's always had so much more going on with Judar relationship wise.

That's why people shouldn't have been surprised Alibaba won Morgiana too.

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>>152607457
>>152607538
Stop this. Right now.

>>152607689
Judar/Fish would be about as forced as Sasuke/Sakura if it happened.
Judar may seem somewhat fond of Fishie, but considering that he was ready to fight her family and thus by extension her, I doubt that he cares all that much. Even during their reunion he payed more attention to Baba than her and talked with him most of the scene.

>>152607977
Probably Solomon/Sheba with a little bit of a role reversal?

>>152608023
She even scolded him for not coming to see her because he was too busy probably fucking Hakuryuu in his homeland. He's just not interested. And I agree SasuSaku a shit.

>>152607995
HakuMorfags mainly cling to their talk on the beach and his proposal. But Haku turned on her illusion inside Belial pretty quickly and didn't think about her at all thought the whole Kou empire arc until he met her again.

>>152601447
CATCHEN A FISH

>>152608122
Didn't he say he'd kill her if she got in the way or is my memory failing me?

But yeah. Hakumor was really shit and I'm glad Ohtaka knew better.

>>152608112
>She even scolded him for not coming to see her because he was too busy probably fucking Hakuryuu in his homeland.

Considering his smug smile when he implied that he spent the previous day with Haku, I honestly would't be surprised.

>>152608053
Yeah, something like that. I remember seeing the Nips on Twitter losing it after that chapter. And many brought up that omake with the water mirror in which they saw their future husband/wife.

>>152605316
those last panels were cute and disturbing holy shit

>>152608209
They're still dishing out tons of fanart, sometimes I check to see if there's anything worth saving. I think Ohtaka won't be upsetting the fandom with it, at least not her target audience.

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>>152608197
Alibaba may have his issues, but at least he never wanted to murder Morg.

-Aladdin: … Sinbad, you have all the power to kill us here and now, Why do you wish to fight us?
-Sinbad: That’s because…I feel uneasy to erase the only thing I regret.
-Hakuryuu: The only thing you regret?!

-Sinbad: You shouldn’t have come, Alibaba. You shouldn’t fight so bravely, even if you have gotten so far.

what does sin regret?

>>152608331
Damn, what an edgy faggot he used to be.

>>152608378
Probably developing fatherly feelings for Baba.

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>>152608122
>HakuMorfags mainly cling to their talk on the beach and his proposal.
That's not all they cling to.

>>152607771
> His sweet comment about wanting to talk with Judar about all sorts of things in the extra paper certainly surprised me.
That comment made my week, no joke. He has said and done things about Judar that his proposal to Morg pales in front of them. Where's the flashback of their reunion Ohtaka? I bet he cried like the little crybaby he is.

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>>152608408
We are going the Yashiro/Satoru route lads.

>>152608432
Pretty sure that was Ohtaka deliberately trolling and baiting. There were many FishBaba and HakuMorfags who were counting their chickens before they were hatched, simply because they smiled at each other, rather than waiting for something less ambiguous.

>>152608476
I hope they hugged. Either way, all hints seem to suggest that they are as close as ever if not more, since their separation seems to have driven home for Hakuryuu how much Judar means to him.

>>152608432
Oh man, I remember those weeks. I was laughing at the threads and all those comments how 'If Hakumor happened in the time skip it would be reasonable because Morg moved on and Hakuryuu can talk more with her so she might have fallen for him' or 'FishBaba have all these chapters, they are certainly getting together. Look how good they are'. Good times.

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>>152608408
>Has known Ja'far for over 20 years
>Has known Alibaba for 5 max
>Cares more about this kid than he does his own companion who would die for him

>>152608653
To be fair, many parents care more about their kids than their friends or even spouses, if they were put in an extreme situation.

>>152608718
Yeah, but Baba isn't his kid.

>>152608652
Yeah, they didn't seem to register at all that it would be a really weird swerve considering that last Hakuryuu and Morg interacted, she told him that she had feelings for Baba and she stopped trusting him. But naw, next we'll see them they'll be married and have a brood of kids. People were desperate as fuck.

>>152608739
But he is the closest Sinbad has to one. And that might have made quite an impact on someone who probably never planned to settle down and have a family at all. Plus, Sinbad does feel indebted to Baba's late father.

>>152608625
A hug would be really cute. And yes, I think Hakuryuu is similar to that saying of 'You realize you had something precious near you, only when you lose it'. I bet he was really happy when he learned that Judar is still alive.

>>152601447
Rollan for fish!

>>152608652
That's what they get for relying on "muh chemistry" (which even then is debatable) instead of actual dialogue in the manga.

Morgiana had said she loved Alibaba. Stares don't mean anything in these kinds of situations, words do.

>>152608331
Pretty much.

While Hakuryuu vowed to kill Morgiana, Alibaba is fighting the entire world because she's brainwashed.

But try to ask the fangirls whose love is really stronger and watch them have a seizure.

>>152608995
I have no doubt about that. In the Kina chapters he was so anxious to see him that it was borderline obnoxious. Considering that what a fight with Arba was coming up, one would think that he'd focus on that rather than whining about how he has to wait some more to see Judar.

>>152608823
>But he is the closest Sinbad has to one
Why tho? What about Baba incites fatherly feelings in Sinbad?

>>152609118
He did help Baba in important ways and gave him the sword that he got from Baba's father. Plus, scenes like this one seem to imply that he sees some of his younger self in him. But then again, human feelings are not completely logical and people caring about each other is not always dependent on spending a long time with each other.

>>152608780
I still don't get that thinking. I mean if she haven't told him she loves Baba I would considering too but it was a slap on their face when Baba came back and proposed.

>>152609041
I am not a shipper of neither, I'm a Juhaku fujo, and it was really clear for arcs before this that BabaMorg would happen. I think Hakumor can be good friends which they proved to from the Kina chapters, maybe lovers too if Baba wasn't in the picture. But it didn't work, too bad for the shippers.

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>>152601447
P-pls do mine

>>152609501
Rolling.

>>152609501
Roll

>>152601447
rell

>>152609501
rollin'

>>152609239
It's just weird to me, y'know? Baba's what, 22? Sinbad's 34 I think. The age difference should warrant more of a big brother type affection rather than a fatherly one.

>>152609332
It was stupid of them to even consider HakuMor a possibility after >>152608331, and when Alibaba vowed to wait for Morgiana to figure her feelings out.

That was Ohtaka sinking the HakuMor. Though, its not too surprising that HakuMorfags still thought it to be a possibility after that, most off them are NaruSaku and SasuSakufags.

>>152609501
Rollan

>>152609832
Dude, ancient times, even Gyoken was pretty damn young and yet she already had 4 grown sons. People had children much earlier during those times.

>>152610098
That's a good point, I guess.

>>152610098
*2 grown sons

>>152611206
You were right the first time because we all know Arba a slut.

>>152605674
>the blood of countless people
Pretty sure almost anyone relevant in this manga anymore has blood of innocents on his hand by now.

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Arba x Hakuryuu OTP

>>152611777
Trips confirm.

>>152610034
>That was Ohtaka sinking the HakuMor

That shit sunk the second he confessed to her. The whole Toto thing that used to be constantly brought up as "proof" that Hakuryuu was fucking Morgiana was just Oktaka trolling as usual.

>>152611596
Not the extent Hakuryuu does.

>>152609501
roll

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>>152599118
But not as hot as Solomon.

>>152590957
Would Alibaba be a furry for doing it with her?

>>152601447
Rollin

>>152613453
Yes.

>>152611955
The whole thing with Toto was wasn't even trolling, it was really there to establish that Morgiana was realizing that she was getting jealous of the thought of Alibaba being with other girls.

>>152613585
Pretty sure he means when Toto "implied" Hakuryuu and Morgiana were together.

Which she didn't but you get the point.

>>152609501
Give me dubs or give me death

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>>152611777
This, hatesex when?

>>152614152
Sorry, anon.

>>152592735
Unfortunately, Aladdin is a fairly bland MC. It's a good thing the edge bros and Alibaba are usually around because he wouldn't make a good story by himself.

This reminds me Yunan's past just got released.
http://arashidono.tumblr.com/post/156277376165/yunans-life-a-as-a-magi-magi-volume-32-omake

>>152616017
Pretty much.

>>152609501
Hopefully Sharrkan or Masrur

>>152619466
Well got Magi, p gud

>>152609501
Rollin'

>>152586676
Noice.

>>152609501
Go on

>>152605316
Yunan is a fucking idiot desu.

>>152622121
It's not like he has any choice.

>>152609041
Shippers are delusional. More at 11.

from the looks of it yunan should fucken despise the magi system

>>152622765
It's a surprise he hasn't fallen into Depravity yet.

>>152622937
yeah jesus christ, all his lives have led to shit

>>152623206
And this one isn't any different.

>>152622765
Can't he stop getting reincarnated? How does that work? I felt really sorry for the dude. Scheherazade at least was alive and just changed bodies when she god older. If I remember right this is a first time for Judar.

>>152623629
*got older

>>152623629
I think he changed bodies but kept his consciousnesses, must've felt like he can do the whole kings vessel right the next time.

>>152601447
rоll

>>152623763
Poor guy. It's like Groundhog Day for him.