Seiren

I expect Kyouko's JC body to turn me on greatly.

Slutneki is a whore.

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how can other shows even compete?

>>152544727
>everyone gets a kiss
>Rihoko gets candy

>>152545582
No one wants the fatty

Her entire route is a goddamn waste of episodes

Junichi going after downs-senpai would be a better story

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>>152545613
Shit-talking about mai waifu again?

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A best.

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>>152546435
Wrong girl

>>152546547
JUST A FRIEND

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>>152546547
Wrong girl

>>152546547
I don't even know who that is.

>>152546599
I want to cum inside Kyouko and then leave her for Tsuneki

>>152546547
She's a good friend.

>>152546547
She always has a deranged look on her face.

>>152546702
>>152546566
Siblings can't be friends

I don't really like the arc so far. It does not have the sense of progress the Amagami arcs had.
Right now, it seems to be headed for a pump-and-dump instead of a romance.

Someone post boner

>>152547329
Slutneki is for pump and dump though

>>152547398
Agreed, but romance stories usually are not

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>>152544727

Im expecting both arcs to be more entertaining then Tsuneki.

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>>152547744
I can't wait for Kyouko.

>>152545613
I didn't like the fatty when Amagami first aired, but I have since grown to appreciate her cuteness

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>>152546547
>>152546729

She onlys wants the best for her only ototo

>>152547846
Better have a route.

>>152547803
Juunichi is so great in these little shorts.

>>152547951
Out of context it sounds like you're checking out his ass in booty shorts

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>>152548036
Who says I'm not?

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>>152546566
SUCH A FRIEND

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I did it for [our girl]

>>152547803
So what do you guys thing she has in that book? I think it's either:

>good
Chuuni bullshit, she is still a chuuni and has some crazy delusions of he high school life.

>the bad
Some hatred filled book, she is Ayatsuji 2.0

>the ugly
Sexy bishounen, she is a fujoshi.

>>152544727
Ai is the lewdest in that picture.

>>152549379
Probably just pictures of wasted food in trash cans.

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is this the best show this season?

>>152549379
Shouichi manifesto

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Was this really necessary?

>>152550539
We had to see that he was armed and dangerous.

>>152550539
>he doesn't like seeing erect man dick in his Anime
You gay or something?

>>152550559
kek

>>152550539
gross, I am very triggered

>>152550539
Where's the math anon?

>>152550539
A lot of this show is not really necessary

i.e. when she was sniffing his dick/and or shit in the toilet dream, when Tsuneki dressed as a kindergartner pissing herself, the furfag, the list goes on

>>152551298
I think this show is too intelligent for you.

>>152544727
My dick not being as hard.

>>152551343
Me too anon

>>152546547
I hope we got a Tomoe episode of her being worried about Shouichi being a beta, single virgin, and trying hard to set up deitos and destined meetings with the 6 girls

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>>152550539

>>152551561
So a reverse Risa?

>>152551718
I wonder if we'll see a Risa analogue in Seiren.

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>>152547340

>>152551774
Makoto.

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>>152549086
what a qt

>>152551932
Makoto has proper route
>>152551718
My bet on the unnamed Tomoe's friend from the op

>>152551718
Yes but instead of psychotic and twisted love it is filled with beautiful and pure sororal love of a nee-chan to his otouto

I hope we get doujins of her. Miya has a disturbing lack of lewds

Here's hoping that there will be a Seiren Harem Root doujin.

>>152552034
>harem
more like haram

>>152552018
Miya is not for lewds you sick fuck.

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What is the meaning of these raindrops? MC piss fetish?

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>>152552182
I dunno but I'd love to piss on Kyouko.

>>152552445
If you pissed on Ruise no one would notice because she already smells like piss.

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>>152552543

>>152551298
>Furfag

Wait what, did I miss something? I watch this when I'm drunk or tired.

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>>152552722

>>152552755
Is that memesubs or a proper translation?

>>152552787
It's correct. And the guy even says he's into it when they come out of the arcade.

>>152552816
I completely missed that, just spent 5 minutes looking for those scenes. He actually said "獣 フェチ" (Animal fetish)
That's grim. There is a lot of unecessary stuff in this show

Based

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>imagines Tsuneki in a kindergartner outfit pissing herself
>pops a boner
This fucking guy.
>>152553093
No anon you are unnecessary

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>>152553351
>girl wets herself
>not hot
im with you anon

>>152553093
>everything that's not the bare minimum is unnecessary

Seriously kill yourself.

>>152549086
>No Boobs

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Is seiren good?

I have to literally force myself to finish Amagami.
I want a triangle, like Kimikiss.

>>152553947
gay as fuck tbqh

>>152553947
>2 Harukas

>>152553947
>He wants another Kimikiss
Shit taste.

I was not expecting that boner scene holy fuck my sides

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>>152553947

You can want to get cucked theres another anime thats perfect for you thats airing right now.

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>>152554050
Also
>Fatty winning

>>152554164
The weird this is, there's not really a triangle in Kuzu no Honkai

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>You might have come to either the right or the wrong class motherfucker, we aren't sure

>>152554202
why are the girls so angry at her?

>>152554229
They are mad because she gets all the attention from the boys at that point in time.

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>>152554050
Fixed

>>152554116
>>152554164
Seriously, there is people who prefered amagami to Kimikiss.

There was no surprise, no spice in the story of Kimikiss.
I want confrontation, not a boring slice of life, in my romance animu.

>>152554392
While I get you (I like WA2), I also like the slice of life style romance where we see characters having fun while also solving their problems. The problem is, most of shows with love triangles will undoubtedly will have harem elements, which most likely lead to the romance aspect to not be taken seriously.

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>>152554392
>ln-adaptation-patterns
>none of those are LNs

>>152554392
Kimikiss is trash.

>>152554392
Because of people like you we can't have nice things

>>152554681
To be more specific, the anime is trash, the manga and I guess the game are pretty good.

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>>152554392

Pure Rage was a disaster on /a/ way back then.
When Amagami was announced as omnibus people lost their shit over Japan not fucking it up.

Icing on the cake was it following sauce material.

So yea, majority of people preferred Amagami. So did Sugita.

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I want to lick that belly.

>>152555038
This season is being amazing for navels.

>>152555151
What shows do you watch?

>>152554917
Guess some like me want good story.

And others want purity, because splitting mc is like ntr.

I watched it before knowing 4chan.

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When does slutneki NTR the MC?

>>152556795
She got NTRd herself.

>>152556795
>implying cats stay loyal

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>>152549616
I want to tongue her navel until she squirts.

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>>152556904
Well Tsuneki is a cat.

>>152556994
Making a litter with Tsuneko!

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Just watched it. What did he mean by this?

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>>152557107
>sucked you dry
hnnnng

>>152556994
Now everything makes sense.

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>>152556950
>Cum in my belly button, anon.

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Is she the smuggest girl this season?

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>>152557391
>>152557289
>>152556950
There better be navel licking doujins.
>>152557384
She is also best girl of the season.

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>>152557384
she is asuka levels of smug

>>152557456

Thighlander.

>>152557456
Sluts can be best girl?

>>152557628
>likes one guy
>slut
Meme post more my friend.

>>152557628
>his waifu isn't a slut
point and laugh

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>>152557664
> sucking mc's best friend dry
see >>152557107

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>>152557628
Tsuneki is pure, PURE.

>>152556904
I'm pretty sure that cats rape each other all the time.

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>>152557790
>memeposting

>>152557908
Yes pls.

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MY WIFE RUISE IS VERY CUTE

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>>152558073
>>152557908
>>152557815
>>152557456
>>152557391
>>152557289

>>152558079
Why does she looks like she smells like urine?

>>152558183
Fucking hell still waiting for GJMsubs. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>152558226
>>152558183
Kiss it?

>>152558079
Pump and dump Ruise for Tsuneki!

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>>152558079
did someone piss into her eyes? wtf

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>>152558079

Sex hair route when?

>>152558992
Buy the BDs.

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>>152560055

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>you will never be emotionally and sexually toyed with by a literal slut

>>152560218
Stop calling mai waifu a slut

>>152560218
>>152560100
>>152560055
You know this girl will gladly peg you in the ass right?

>>152560306
>Not liking anal play
Are you gay?

>>152560218
She's not a slut!

>>152560302
>>152560380
t. Slutneki

>>152560306
And?

>>152560306
Good.

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>>152560354
>>152560422
>>152560451
Why would you want a girl butt-fucking YOU?

>>152560678
Because I'm not a faggot

>>152560678
We can take turns, fucking each others' butts.

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>>152560697
>getting butt-fucked
>not a faggot

>>152560830
>Not wanting something up your ass
You're a fairy

Honestly, nothing about Tsuneki's story arc stands out to me so far. Seems pretty tame aside from some of the odd delusions and dreams Kamita had.

Is Ruise always tired because she's always playing with herself?

>>152560306
No she wouldn't. If anything she'd prefer her ass getting rammed.

>>152561143
>4
>>152560874
>>152560816
>>152560697
>>152560451
>>152560422
>>152560354
Butt-chuggers get out!

>>152561243
>4
What? I'm saying she'd rather get fucked not me anon.

>>152561243
>not sucking dick while getting your ass rammed by a bbc
You're a fag, anon, deal with it.

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>>152560816
How does a girl take turn giving anal to a guy?

>>152561426
Strap on.

>>152561370
/v/ pls go

>>152561653
The type of joke I'm making has been an /a/ thing for a while now. Nice try trying to fit in.

>>152544727
I get the feeling kyouko is gonna cuck herself by setting him up with someone. And then get irrationally mad and jealous that he's with someone besides her.

In other words. Crazy ayatsuji like route.

>>152561653
They'll be coming once gamer girl arc starts.

>>152561771
Kyouko will never win

Childhood friends stay as friends forever

>>152561653
Ayatsuji is Ruise, Tsuneki is just Haruka, she doesn't have a temper or hatred like Ayatsuji or the dominant personality while she has Haruka and her Engrish and teasing.

>>152561694
Its a dumb meme either way.

>>152561917
I get the feeling that Kyoko always knew this truth for a very long time.

>>152561987
That's not the point.

>>152561917
She's gonna win so hard you will never come back.

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>threads are incredibly comfoy Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturdays
>shitposting and cuckposting Sundays

All I want to say is Tsuneki is a miracle.

>>152544727
I really enjoyed Tsuneki's art thus far but I'm also looking forward to Kyouko's. Tooru seems a bit generic to me but I don't doubt that her arc will be enjoyable.

>>152562066
>She's gonna win so hard
Yes, she's going to win that friendship flag

>>152562112
Let the density contest begin!

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>>152554392
>I want confrontation, not a boring slice of life, in my romance animu.
Go watch Kuzu no Honkai then. Kimikiss was a crime against humanity.

>>152562078
It's a shame that she learned how to do laundry, I would masturbate furiously while wearing the jersey that smelled of her.

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I choose which girls I like based on the attractiveness of their VAs. That being said, Shouichi is way out of all three girl's leagues.

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>>152562283
Nigga looks ugly as shit.

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>>152562312

Beats childhood friend by miles.

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>>152562365
>>152562312
>>152562283
Nakahara prettiest seiyuu.

>>152562112
Please anon, even Rihoko got with him given it took another season but still happened.

>>152562472
The director gave her a pity win

Seiren will never get S2

>>152562524
Isn't it the writer's job?

>>152562524
>>The director gave her a pity win
A win that already existed in the game.

>>152544727
They can't, sluts are unironically best waifus

>>152562605
She barely won in the game too, if you actually consider putting an engagement ring inside a pastry a win compared to porking chicks all across in all of the other main girl endings

>>152562112
Considering the awful reception to rihoko not winning and they're trying to sell another season there's no way she wouldn't win.

>>152562693
Marriage is a bigger win than sex.

>>152562740
The MC gets married and porks all the chicks in all of the best/normal ends...save for the fatty

>>152562605
She still was a bitch who fell for the Risa's lies in the game, unlike cover girl
Bitch deserved to lose

>>152554392
>Kimikiss pure rage

>>152562784
Plus she couldn't diet and stayed a fat.

>>152557289
>>152557391
Eww stretch marks, dropped.

>>152562724
>Considering the awful reception to rihoko not winning
What is this revisionism?

Everyone on /a/ plus on Jap image and text boards were memeing to oblivion at the ending.

The only one that topped it was Code Geass sperging.

>>152562769
Totally false.

>>152562633
So you like girls who fuck anything that has a penis including deer?

>>152562846
Give her a break

She got preggo multiple times

>>152562846
Someone hasn't watched episode 3.
>>152552543
Rude, just because she's tired automatically means she smells like piss? Fuck outta here.
>>152557289
I don't think she'd enjoy having cum inside her belly button.

>>152562956
Girls absorb cum anywhere on their body like a sponge and love it. My hentai and doujins told me so

>>152562846
>stretch marks
But those are impressions from the track suit.

>>152549379
I really hope it will be Chuuni stuff, chunnis must be bullied

wait a minute...why second year student has to go summer cram school

didn't they had 1 more year before going to college ?

>>152563138
that's what she wants you to believe

>>152562853
>Haruka
Married with tons of sex
>Sae
Married, with tons of sex, has a clone plus another incoming
>Ai
Seiren era with tons of sex, living together
>Kaoru
pre-Seiren era with tons of sex, living together
>Tsukasa
Married, with tons of sex, has a clone
>Fatty
Gets a ring inside a breadroll/creampuff, no sex implied anywhere and not living together

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>>152563164
But it corresponds.

>>152562769
>in all of the best/normal ends
>normal ends
Which ones?

>>152563172
>Gets a ring inside a breadroll/creampuff
I genuinely feel sad.

>>152563164
stretch marks dont look like that anyway

>>152563095
The belly button is sacred though, it doesn't need cum inside. Only for licks/kiss

>>152563313
Literally JUST

>57 /a/magamibros will never run a train on Tsuneki and take turns cumming inside her holes

>>152562893
With the deer? That's why they've got increased population and one keeps chasing her?

>>152563410
I'd rather do this with Kyouko.

>>152563452
Kyouko is for friendship and letting her be your winglady.

>>152563452
Childhood friends are not for sexual.

>>152563410
At that point you'd just be cumming into cum anon.

>>152563365
She's not a bad girl. Why is she neglected so much?

>>152563503
She's fat, not cute, says she'll diet but keeps eating, complete airhead and not in a cute way.

>>152563503
She's not, that guy is trying to push a meme because he hates her.

>>152563546
So she's like average /a/non.

>>152563503
>Why is she neglected so much?

She is a waste of a route

Reading Manaka and Ruriko's antics are far superior...or actually turning Hibiki into an actual route and not on some fandisc only a few people have

Mind you, she only gets kissed in her best end while all the other girls gets kisses in their Best/Good/Normal ends

The only thing going for her route is that she does not have a bad end, but then again so does Ai and Kaoru rendering her even more useless

>>152563584
His memefaggotry looks something out of fate or madoka threads.

>>152563604
It's not HER fault, stop bullying!

>>152563650
It is though anon, she says she'll diet but doesn't do it. Manaka should've replaced her.

>>152563724
I can't say I wouldn't want to see Manaka route, but replacing already existing one is wrong.

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>>152563724
This

and nothing of value was lost

Gonna drop this after next weeks episode because she's clearly best girl and i don't support catering to everyone like a pussy so fuck the other routes

>>152563846
>slut
>best girl
b8

>>152563846
No one will miss you, faggot

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>>152563785
See >>152563813
If it's gonna be better than the previous then it'll be even better than it would've if they kept it.

>you'll never taste Manaka's tea
>you'll never have her play jokes on you

>>152563846
Just like ever guy caters to her pussy in the anime.

>>152563967
You're literally supporting waifu genocide. Rihoko did nothing wrong.

>>152563967
She also offers a different dynamic with her autism.

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>>152564152
It'll be okay, Rihoko would enjoy seeing her senpai fall in love.

>>152564343
Stop it, Rihoko would suffer and Senpai would never let Rihoko suffer.

>>152564343
>MC and her bang inside the Tea Club
>Rihoko watches, blushes and flees
>many years later returns to Kibito with a daughteru

>>152564343
What fetish would she have?

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>>152564500
Downs
Tennis
Tea

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>>152564408
But she let it happen when he got with the others.

>>152564537
She wouldn't hurt Rihoko herself though.

why did they choose the three blandest girls to start the season with?

>>152564606
To buy the fucking BDs. You don't buy BDs, you don't get best girls.

Fucking Japs outplayed us this time.

>>152564527
Manaka a CUTE!

Post more Manaka!

>>152564606
The second girl's hair looks unevenly cut. Like she's balding.

>>152544727
Just finished this weeks episode along with rewatching Amagami's 3rd episode as well and holy shit, how can Seiren even compete? From Shouichi being alpha and not a complete pushover, relation not moving at a glacial pace, back of the knee action, better sister scenes and a strong development of the couple, it's an absolute blowout, hell, they even have the soup dripping scene in a better and funnier context. I will give Seiren credit where is due though, while in Amagami outside of seeing the relation growing between Shouichi and Haruka, thee is not much anything else in terms of story while the new series actually has an actual plot moving the story forward and new revelations and developments each week (slutneki's friend being a liar, the tattling to her parents actually being a plot point, etc...) so i can see being less boring to the common viewer than Amagami was.

Hopefully this is just a weak arc but so far this is very much so bargain bin Amagami.

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I have a hard time imagining any of the other Seirenianis topping her.

>>152564917
Ruise and Lipstick-chan.

>>152564981
>Ruise
Nope.

>>152565018
Why

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>>152565030

>>152564917
I have hopes in Kyoko being a weird one under the surface.

>>152565068
Shes cuter than half the Seiren main cast

Whose the Rihoko of the Seirens?

>>152565068
This is the girl that sold Tsuneki

>>152565173
Who's her new owner?

>>152565173
How much does she go for?

>>152565173
Of course, Keiko sold her to reunite with Mako.

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>>152565173
Sold her to the deers

>>152565173
Hope she got a good price

>>152565166
They've been pairing her with Kyoko in the manga.

Then again, they also paired Hikari with Tsukasa and they're nothing alike.

>>152565606
That's just because they're both the poster girls for their series.

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What did she mean by this?

>>152565667
If the series wasn't split the way it is, I think Ruise would've been the cover girl. Hikari was used because she had the more appealing design for viewers.

>>152565606
The pairs are simple, Rihoko with Kyouko because both are childhood friends, Tsuneki with Tsukasa because both are the poster girl and Toru with Haruka because both are third years.

And my bet for the second cour pairs are Miu with Ai because both are swimmers, Makoto with Sae since both are first years with big boobs and Ruise with Kaoru because there's no one else.

>>152565068
This girl is probably the actual Keiko.

I FIGURED IT OUT
THAT DOUBLE TIMING BITCH TOLD ON TSUNEKI TO GET RID OF THE COMPETITION FOR ARAKI
I'M A GENIUS

>>152566304
Mako is a college-age student, right?

>>152566637
She's a time traveler.

>>152565606
I meant to say whose the fatty.

>>152566304
So what is up with the relation of these two, are they related or something?

>>152566866
Mako had been in the same summer seminar before. She knew the teacher, and back then he was being picked on by the students. So this year, she gave him the sunglasses and bamboo blade to make him look more threatening.

>>152566963
And she also talks about how strong he is. It won't surprise me if they're related.

>>152567070
I think she's only saying that because she knows he's weak. His reputation as a teacher was on the line.

>>152567070
What about them fucking

>>152566866
She's a ronin, he got know the teacher last year.

>>152566304
Mako is a dumb slut

>>152567428
But shes MY dumb slut!

>>152567176
Mako is too pure for that.

>>152567475
You're right

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>>152564527
I'm waiting for them to show up in Seiren at some point. Not sure if it will be the Tea Club or the Udon Association.

I want to hold tsunekis hand but I don't have a glove, how do I proceed?

>>152568073
Manaka deserves a route

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HOW THE FUCK IS THIS POSSIBLE

>>152568460
FUCKING ASIANS

>>152568460
H-HAYAI!

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This part gave me some serious NTR vibes, i hate it!

>>152568692
That's why he should just bang his osananajimi and then move on with Ruise.

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>>152568846

Thats still weeks then months away, friend

>>152568846
You shouldn't pump and dump a childhood friend.

>>152568939
That's their sole purpose in your life.

They're the training wheels for the real thing.

I can't read this girl. Does she actually like senpai? Was he the one who reported her working?

>>152569236
You might be legitimately autistic.

>>152569305
As much as the MC then.

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>>152569236
Obiviously. Also what do you mean by "senpai"? He's in the same grade.

>>152569517
The furry is 3rd year student.

>>152569517
>even her friend expected her to get spitroasted and gangbanged

>>152569236
>Does she actually like senpai?
No
> Was he the one who reported her working?
No, it was probably her friend.

>>152544727
What's with the shinai teacher and Tsuneki's mountain buddy? They obviously know each other from way back. Do they have a side material?

>>152569236
Nah. Araki-senpai is a fucking blabbermouth but not a snitch. He probably told it to his gf then she snitched on Tsuneki.

>>152565809
>hurr durr

>guy thinks he's getting ntrd
>her friend snitched on her so she would have no competition at the mixer due to being a jealous bitch
>she will cook for the guy at the restaurant
>they will get flustered even though she was basically naked in front of him 5 times

Yawn move onto the next girl

>>152570002
>guy thinks he's getting ntrd
He doesn't think that, you should try to watch the episode.

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>>152570053
Talking about next episode.

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>>152567475

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Is that why friend is the suspected snitch? She sounded desippointed Tsuneki didn't make it to the trip on the phone.

The way he was trying to ask her if she's into Senpai was very clumsy.

>>152570395
>you always grab the attention of everyone in the room

Pay attention to girl talk anon that translates to your more popular than me and I fucking hate it.

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How many babies?

>>152570687
Why are girls so awful? They'll just talk shit behind each other's back and then act friendly in public and it's disgusting.

>>152570762
14

>>152570847
MC literally asks her why girls lie through their teeth in the episode.

>>152570687
Well I guess there's a reason I never got along with other girls in highschool. I can't read between the lines.

>>152570395
She told Tsuneki that nothing happened in the trip and suddenly she's getting intimate with furry senpai. That's enough to get suspicious. Plus, she saw something on her phone that we don't know.

>>152570762
At least 100 babies.

>>152571127
MY WIFE RUISE IS VERY SMALL

>>152571127
Wow, Makoto is very much taller than I thought.

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>>152571263

>>152555327
Hey ESLfag, love polygons and melodrama don't make for a good story. Whining about unrequited love and someone stealing the boy you like isn't the only source of conflict that can exist. Go watch your telenovelas and then watch Kuzu no Honkai and shut up.

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>>152571334
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>152570958
It was probably someone else's nudes.

>>152571295
Is she gonna be a love interest? Shes cute

>>152571991
Yes, next season.

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>>152572041

>next season.

>>152571295
Who needs Ruise when you have cowtits?

>>152571492
I don't like this meme.

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>>152571127

My body is ready for Kyouko

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Will Mako meet Keiko?

>>152572208
>wanting a dumb repeater who gets turned on by lewd talk

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>>152572208
That would negatively affect the timeline. They would both get destroyed.

>>152572406
So the context of that comic is that Mako is imagining if Ikuo was a girl. Then I assume some sort of paradox is happening in her head.

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>tfw no Moe-nee older sister

>>152572784
I hope she gets good screentime during Tooru's route. Miya was so underused during the anime routes.

>>152572845
She'll definitely play the icebreaker for Toru and Shouichi.

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>>152566304

>>152573919
DUMB

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>>152574035
FLAT

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>>152574204
PUNISHED

>>152572406
>>152572511
im bored and this 4-koma made me laugh so i translated it.

Title: Her True Identity

>Tsuneki-san and the others already left, huh..
>I'm the only student left in this hotel now.
>It's pretty lonely...

>Now that I think about it, that boy that was with Kamita-kun,
>I feel like I've seen him before somewhere...

>Oh yeah! He looks like Tachibana-kun's girlfriend.
>I think her name was Nanasaki--

>No way! Could he be her younger brother!?
>Have Kaoru and them found out!? That I've been trying to get into university for 8 years!
>Even though I used a pseudonym and hid myself up in this mountain!!

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I wonder if the restaurant is still open.

>>152575157
>2017
>still flipping burgers

Worse end than ending up with the fatty desu.

>>152575221
It's 2003.

>>152575221
It's only been 9 years

>>152574987
Nice work anon

>>152574987
Forever a ronin.

Why do childhood friends never win?
they are the purest form of love.
>>152569102
DELETE THIS

>>152575750
Sorry Kyouko but you're the designated jobber for this show.

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>>152574987
Thanks

>>152575818
It would be funny if Kyoko's arc pokes fun at the Rihoko debacle.

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Why is he obsessing so much over her belly button?

>>152576045
>all those stretch marks

How many abortions?

>>152576051
Those are tracksuit indents you uncultured pleb.

>>152576051
Aren't those just from his track suit being pressed against her midriff since its always exposed with no covering?

>>152576045
>he doesn't have a navel fetish