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Why do scanlators like drama so much?

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Why do scanlators like drama so much?
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This is all they have.
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>>152511070
why the fuck do scanlators have such a fucked up sense of copyright lmao

like translating something into english is work, but manga aggregators like kissmanga that make it possible for all manga to be accessible from one location don't do any work?
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e-pen
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>>152511167
/thread
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Because their audience doesn't give them as much praise, gratitude, and general attention as they feel they deserve. To be fair, it's not entirely unwarranted given how little most people understand about the scanlation process. People only ever thank you for translations but never appreciate how things like cleaning, redrawing, and typesetting take far more work.

That disconnect between the audience and the scanlator is what causes the drama.
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>>152511167
fpbp
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>>152511249
If they didn't do it, someone else would. There's an endless number of people who can translate from Jap to English, and plenty of them would do it for the tiny amount of fame it gets them.
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>stop stealing my stolen shit
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Because many of them do it for the attention.
Then when they don't get the attention they bitch and moan about it.
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>>152511167
/thread
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>>152511070
Because if you put in a lot of time helping other people it's nice to be appreciated. And because the vast majority of scanlators are manchildren with the emotional maturity of a pregnant, teenage woman.
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>>152511313
Everyone wants them to keep scanlating though, no one wins if they quit working for free.
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>>152511291
>There's an endless number of people who can translate from Jap to English
I wish they worked on all of my favorite untranslated manga.
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>>152511167
/thread

>>152511174
It's all about this.
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>>152511422
pirate sites would probably start doing their own scanlations in order to have the chapters up a few hours faster than other sites. this shit is ridiculously profitable.
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They're starved for attention.
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>>152511070
This isn't /v/ take your e-celeb Twittershit drama back to where you came from

Sage
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>stealing 3-gatsu from me
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Remember when Aereus got butthurt that someone translated the Boku Girl side chapter instead of him so he threw a fit and quit translating it altogether?

And to this day the final chapter remains untranslated.
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>>152511070
Do I read this bottom to top?
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>>152511422
Same goes for the jannies, but you don't see one tear shed for them
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>>152511525
>implying the janitors do anything beneficial
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>>152511249
If you only do it for praise, gratitude, and general attention then you choose wrong hobby m8
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>>152511070
If you did something solely for appreciation and somebody came and tried to take that away from you you'd be pissed too. It's like being a 4chan janitor and one day Hiro messages you and says "we got someone new faggo you're no longer needed here." You put in all that work for nothing.
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>>152511505
Is it? Dump it somewhere and surely someone will translate it.
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>>152511525
People become moderators to get the feeling of exerting power onto others. Completely different from doing something universally beneficial like translating.
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>>152511249
Well yeah. Translation is the most important part. You can read an uncleaned raw if you've got a text translation for each page.

>>152511173
They want people to suck their dick. That's why they don't want their releases redistributed. People on aggregate sites don't suck their dick. That's why they don't want other people to pick up series that they're doing. People that read other translations don't suck their dick. And then there's also the ones that try to make money off the whole thing, those are usually the ones that plaster giant watermarks everywhere. As if their name is more important than the author's.
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>>152511070
autism
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>>152511634
Or you know they don't want strangers profiting off what they've doen
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>>152511173
>manga aggregators like kissmanga that make it possible for all manga to be accessible from one location don't do any work
Those sites do it for the money from ads, baka.
Translators normally don't get paid so they think they deserve respect and shit like that.
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>>152511070
They literally translate chink comics all day everyday, they have nothing else
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>>152511070
>they stole muh translation!

it's illegal to share manga scans
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>>152511708
>please donate so i can keep translating
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>>152511708
>they don't want strangers to profit off of their own profiteering from other people's work
Are you daft?
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>>152511742
Yes, there is no difference between profiting off your own work and having someone else profiting off your work
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>>152511708
Hypocritical. Maybe they should consider how the magaka doesn't want them to pirate their shit either. Scanlation is piracy, so its absurd to care if someone else distributes something you've already stolen.
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/a/ should just start learning Japanese. Once you know around 500 characters, you get a good idea of what's being said, and you will be able to identify stroke orders for characters you don't know which makes it possible to look them up online without losing much time.

Besides using google translate for words/sentence structures I don't understand, it's a pretty effective way to read manga that doesn't get any attention from translators.
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Sometimes I wonder if these people are even fans. Don't they want people to read manga that they also enjoy?
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>>152511742
>m-my mom is sick and I have to take care of her
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>>152511838
What you are saying is obvious and full of common sense, but not for everyone and that is sad.
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>>152511813
define 'work', because i'd argue that it's harder to write crawlers to download manga from a wide variety of scanlation sites than it is to translate a few pieces of text into english from japanese.

as for 'profiting off of other peoples' works', translators do just that when they ask for donations. they weren't given the rights to translate.
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>>152511851
Just 500?
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>>152511070
3gatsu deserves a better translator than a little bitch like him.
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>>152511070
>tfw anonymous translatorfag on /a/
>tfw find my stuff reposted on reedit and Tumblr but never complain
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>>152511851
I can read raws if I really want to expend the effort, but there is still a ton of kanji I don't understand and constantly using a dictionary breaks immersion. So I'd rather read a translation.
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>>152511859
Not all scanners are like that, for every Reddit-tier drama queen there are ten based scanlators quietly doing their work so others could enjoy it. Look at the guy running Habanero, he brought back or finished several dozen manga from the grave and scans a ton of ancient manga that people didn't even know existed and will probably never read
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>>152511940
Anonymous translators are best translators. Sasuga fag-sama.
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>>152511070
>translating shit only because you want attention
Autism.
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>>152511505
Yeah and they guy who did it even said, 'This has been out for a while and Aereus never did it so I'll take care of it'
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>>152512107
Aereus was such a bitch. He would just disappear for months at a time with no explanation and expected nobody else to pick it up. I'm surprised he went as long as he did without anyone else translating.
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>>152511940
But you want people to read your work, isnt that the point?
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>>152512231
Most tripfags have brain problems, even the ones that contribute manga tl
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>>152511167

fpbp

If you're going to translate, do it for the right reasons; giving back to the community that gave so much to you. Take that epeen and literally fuck yourself with it otherwise.
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dunno fansub drama is worse since there's fewer sub groups. not to mention scanlation doesn't have a cartel
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>>152511603
It's actually like 4 chapters that are left untranslated not just 1
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>>152511928
>i'd argue that it's harder to write crawlers to download manga from a wide variety of scanlation sites than it is to translate a few pieces of text into english from japanese.
I am a software engineer and proficient in Japanese. Both types of work come with their challenges. Writing a crawler is far from being rocket science.

I respect novel translators a lot and don't think their work is easier than mine.
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>>152511070
>someone ""stealing"" their project
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>>152512619
Kind of like someone stealing a franchise, dumb edgeposter.
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>>152511070
>Apr 18

Why do people like to shitpost old scanlator drama? If you want a mad scanlator thread, you should post old Prozess rants, that shit was epic.
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>>152512499
The cartel is dead, and the only real victim was doki maybe. Fansub drama was never as bad as the manga scene I think.
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Just be glad PROzess isn't still shitting on the entire scene.
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>>152511851
>500 characters
笑 no
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>>152512693
>>152512714
Are there other funny drama that I could dig up to laugh at?
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>>152512757
Daiz got super butthurt once for an entire 3 or 4 months because of a joke subgroup that just puts memes in their subs instead of actual translations. He tried to get them banned on nyaa but the admin unbanned them so he got even angrier.
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>>152512691
The whole dibs thing is cancer that leaves manga to collect dust with certain groups.
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>>152512757
Here you go. Better get coffee for this one.

https://blackwingscans.blogspot.com/
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>>152512840
Not what I meant, but whatever.
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>>152512824
I'm glad he doesn't post anymore, faggots even made a meme about him
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>>152511070
I used to do translation from english to spanish for some time. It was nice to see some of my translation being used for jiggles.
Then some faggots started to get mad for translating their "projects", even after asking for permission. It was stupid, so I sometimes would translate them just to make them rage. good times.
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>>152512714
To be fair if it wasn't for the drama I would have never picked up Nozoki Ana.
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>>152512824
Did they have an alternate track? Meme subs alone should be banned under the trollsubs rule.
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>>152511173
You're fucking retarded if you support chinese ad-laden malware-spreading sites like mangafox or kissmanga over batoto where all the fucking scanlators upload their own work to

You have the choice between
-page the people who do it for free trust
-chinese who steal the work of others, get rich off of it and infest your pc for free for free made

and you choose the chinese?

Seriously?
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>>152511580
>You put in all that work for nothing.
Theoretically, you put in all that work so people would read it. Wouldn't you be happy it was "stolen"? Speaking as a scanlator, I don't give a shit if people "take" my work unless they're going to slap watermarks all over it or downscale. I want the manga to be read in as high a quality as possible and spread around. The conflict here comes from the fact that he's only doing it for appreciation, in which case you should pick up a hobby in which you create your own things instead of touch up someone elses.
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>>152512723
http://benkyo.co/iikanji/
~55% is more than enough to get an idea of what's going on through context from images and other accompanying text. manga isn't shakespeare and nip speak has very simple grammatical structures. you'll end up recognizing a lot more than 500 if you keep reading manga, even if you don't give a shit about learning any more due to how frequently they appear.
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>>152512939
No they used nyaa which made it even funnier. They even altered the file extension of their releases and said that they made a file format better than 10bit even though it was just a renamed mp4, which made Daiz blow a fuse.
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>>152512907
>edgeposter
What kind of retard are you
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>>152512959
Batoto has a smaller selection of manga and I use adblock on both my phone and my computers.

>why would you go to a supermarket when you can go to 10 different stores to get your groceries instead?
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>>152512959
>You're fucking retarded if you support chinese ad-laden malware-spreading sites like mangafox or kissmanga over batoto where all the fucking scanlators upload their own work to
Is this a meme or something?
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>>152512880
I knew Prozess was autistic, but not THIS autistic
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>>152512986
By your logic, you should know what 誤魔化す means because you know 500 characters.

The reality is, with your method, you'll think it means something awkward like "change into a mistake demon" when it actually just means "to deceive"
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>>152513027
You have not watched that show. Lucky, honestly.
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>>152512959
>batoto
The place run by people who remove manga that hurts their feelings. Maybe they could have been great, but they are trash.
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>>152512959
The only difference between those sites and Redditoto is lack of watermarks in the latter. Also, manga fox is just a wasteland now because literally every series is licensed and therefore unavailable.
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>>152513203
https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/%E8%AA%A4%E9%AD%94%E5%8C%96%E3%81%99

I can also use jisho. Machine translations are extremely efficient when translating individual words at a time.
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>>152513108
Some teenager on the mangafox forums argued with him and won and he nuked fucking everything.

It was kind of shitty at the time because he was releasing so much Nozoki Ana chapters. He relased like 30 chapters in a few weeks.
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>>152513261
Was it batoto that went full retard with .apng?
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>>152512959
I choose the one that doesn't force me to make just another useless account.
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>>152513272
I'll also add that if I'm unfamiliar with an awkwardly phrased sentence, I have the freedom to rewrite the sentence to make it easier for the machine translation.

Yeah it's impressive that you know a lot of Japanese, but for the purposes of reading Manga you don't need fluency.
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>>152511070
>Bitching about fundamentals of the internet
>On the internet
>>152511249
>but never appreciate how things like cleaning, redrawing, and typesetting take far more work.
As someone who does that shit all the time, it takes times, a lot of fucking time, which is probably part of the frustration
>>152511473
Pirate sites are just aggregators, it's individuals, like the dude in op, that 'do' things.
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>>152513273
As a translator and native speaker myself, I can say that his translating work on its own is quite decent. Too bad it's attached to an overinflated ego.
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That's what you get for not knowing Japanese. Suck it up.
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>>152513392
>programmers don't do anything, it's computers that 'do' things
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>>152513412
>Remfag
Get out
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>>152511070

>3-5 hours a day for 4 months

I'd have finished in in 5 days top, fucking bitch.
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>>152513273
>study japanese in university
>work as an english teacher in japan for minimum wage and no hope for career progression
>come back to the us by my mid 30s and translate manga to earn the respect of teenagers on the internet
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>>152512959
Batoto has fuck all left on it.
Every time I used it to read a complete manga it would be deleted before I finished and I would have to find somewhere else.
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>>152511864
We need some original ones.
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>>152513272
If what you're saying is "learn 500 characters then you can understand some stuff and use a dictionary for the rest" then my answer is "OBVIOUSLY". No duh, yeah, you can use a dictionary for words you don't know. Wanna know something? You could do that without knowing ANY words as long as you had an inkling of grammar.

Your method of "characters" works for words with only one kanji, but once you get into compound words (i.e. words with more than one kanji) then it's over, you lose.
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>>152513439
You just said that programmers = websites and computers = people.

Fucking idiot
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>>152513767
websites don't collect those manga chapters anon
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>>152511291
>If they didn't do it, someone else would.
if only
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>>152511291
That's complete bullshit, the ja->en translation 'buisness' has a miniscule number of people in it, the amount of untranslated (and popular) shit is astounding.
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>>152513754
So what's this argument about then? Seems like you just conceded to my point. Most of the compound characters end up being piss easy shit like 終電 or 常連 anyway. As long as you can recognize the frequently appearing Kanji, you don't have to waste too much time referring to a dictionary.
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>>152512935
Are you from Joker?
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>yfw got scolded by the guy who just posts the raws of manga on the internet for basically editing/typesetting one chapter and releasing it despite both translation and raws being public and there being no indication that his preferred scanlator is doing anything
>scanlator comes in and shows he is actually working on it
>me and scanlator finish the volume together anyway
Really rude, I hate people going butthurt over absolutely nothing.
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>>152511249
Not only I don't appreciate cleaning and redrawing but I also hate it and oppose it with all my force.

Leave the fucking source as it is. I don't want white shit, I want paper texture and I want actual grey.
>>152511473
>what is quality?
Sites like mangastream are a cancer.
>>152511838
>but he's stealing too! Think of the artist!
Artists shouldn't have any word about their works after they've created them.
If you bitch about the non profitable diffusion of art you are a stupid bitch.
>>152512959
We seriously need another "official" site because Batoto is shit.
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This is why I never miss the days of fansubs. You don't have to worry about Crunchyroll translators withholding a new episode because no one wanted to watch Pythagoras Switch.
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>>152514226
>We seriously need another "official" site because Batoto is shit.
Do we, it is shit but what difference does it make?
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>>152512959
Isn't Batoto full of sjw?
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If only learning jyouyou kanji was easier...

Or maybe I'm not putting too much effort I guess.
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>>152513754
I think the difference here is whether or not you're able to read manga and how many times you have to interrupt reading to check the dictionary.
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>>152514336
>not putting too much effort
At least you are self-aware.
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>>152514226
>Not only I don't appreciate cleaning and redrawing but I also hate it and oppose it with all my force.
Really, you oppose redrawing?
What do you want scanlators to do when there's text written on top of the image? Just leave the Japanese as-is and write in the English somewhere else on the image or as a side-note?
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>>152512959
>batoto where all the fucking scanlators upload their own work to
You mean [no chapters] and "translator request, do NOT upload" work?
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>>152514393
Post the raw on youtube video and the tl as a notification over the speech bubble.
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>>152514126
MangaWorks
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>>152514336
>tfw not even sure what a jyouyou Kanji is but read LN all day anyway
I swear you guys just make it harder for yourselves
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>>152511851
>>152512986
That's false. Even if you know 2000 kanji and read grammar guide multiple times you will only be able to decipher manga with a help of outside tool. You have to learn a lot of vocabulary too and above all else, practice a lot. No, your first ten raw manga won't go smoothly.
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>>152514455
Truly the future of English-translated manga.
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>>152514308
they are beyond that level of crazy. They removed Berserk for violence and sex, and they had an entire crackdown on ecchi manga.
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>series of really good doujins from comiket
>first two got translated fast
>third one took like over a year to get translated by the same guy
>fourth and fifth and two bonus side stories were out
>no word from translator
>some fucking hero comes out of nowhere and translates them all in like a week
>wasn't perfect but got the job done, especially for such a fast translation
>original translator immediately comes out and bitches at new guy
I fucking hate these faggots. I'd take a translation with a few spelling mistakes and awkward wordings over your "project" that will never be fucking finished.
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>>152514545
Don't they also hate loli?
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>>152511070
How do I read this?
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>>152514300
Batoto doesn't host the fucking manga because they're retarded sjw.
>>152514393
You don't need redrawing if you don't fucking delete the original effects (which by the way a lot of publishers consider part of the artwork and therefore don't delete already).
"Cleaning" is cancer. It's like "Restoring" paintings from 1400. You don't fucking do that because you're not the original artist, you simply make it so that it can't get damaged anymore, you fucking work to conserve it in its state.
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>>152514584
You don't.
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>>152514370
Hey I ain't got time for learning shit for my hobby.

If it's something you can pick it up as you go, that's all good an dandy.

But something that requires me to sit down and actually "study" shit? Nah, fuck that. I already have my hands full on my work.
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why doesn't anyone make a site where you can upload raws and use crowdsourcing for the translations? you can use some kind of upvoting system to make it more likely that the most accurate translations get posted.
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>>152514584
From the bottom to the top.
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>>152514545
Are you serious? I read a bunch of borderline porn BL no batoto, it's hilarious if they delete ecchi manga but leave that
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>>152514570
Yes, Kodomo no Jikan was taken down by them.
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>>152514592
>You don't need redrawing if you don't fucking delete the original effects (which by the way a lot of publishers consider part of the artwork and therefore don't delete already).
I'm not sure I follow you, sorry.
How do you handle stuff like this image?
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>>152511070
Fan translators in general are shitters, VN TLs are even worse.
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>>152514659
It's also really inconsistent about what they ban. But that's typical of leftist behavior
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Being able to understand japanese is amazing:
-no need to beg for translations to bitchy, entitled people of the scanlation scene
-no meaning lost in translation
-no raws? Help yourself on amazon.co.jp or Bookwalker

If you don't expect to stop reading manga in the next ten years it might be a good time to start learning japanese anons
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>>152514226
>Artists shouldn't have any word about their works after they've created them.
I agree, but as long as copyrights are a thing that's just your opinion. The point is that scanlators, having stolen someone else's work, should have even less say about what happens with them.
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>>152514659
They love BL shit but will remove Nana to Kaoru for being "problematic". Batoto was a mistake.
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>>152514226
>Not only I don't appreciate cleaning and redrawing but I also hate it and oppose it with all my force.
So I take it you really enjoyed reading GTO scanlations? They really didn't care about cleaning and redrawing, and look how great it turned out to be. The original Tenjou Tenge scans had something similar going on IIRC.

>I don't want white shit, I want paper texture and I want actual grey.
Yeah, that's more of an issue with overleveling and overuse of shitty Photoshop anti-noise filters, which is something a lot of groups (especially speed scanlators) LOVE doing nowadays. Level correction and noise elimination CAN be part of the scanlation process, but it's certainly not all there is to is. I rarely do them, unless the original scans are REALLY bad.
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>>152514545
Don't forget about Nana to Kaoru getting taken down because of muh "soggy knees"
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>>152514735
My favorite thing about being fluent is when I'm flipping through doujins to see what to fap to and I don't even notice if it's translated or not since it's second nature now
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>>152514735
Learning is easy.

But being competent is hard.
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>>152514623
it would be infested by shitposting anons and redditors
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>>152514776
Hardly showing anything
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How's it going on the DJT now that they moved it to /int/?
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>>152514683
Considering it's a digital format I'd add a white space with the translation on the side. At least it's all original.
>>152514749
I don't respect a law just because it exists.
>>152514799
Yeah, don't put words in my mouth, there's nothing to protect inside a white bubble.
I said I WANT paper texture. I also hate those fucking filters, though, who fucking wouldn't?
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>>152514735
>it might be a good time to start learning japanese
it's a waste of time since I'll stop reading manga anyway when I get my life together ;-;
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>>152514623
That's what raffmanga/mangalator/otakumole is.
They use something similar to the danbooru style of translation bubbles.
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>>152514914
I thought it was moved to /jp/.
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>>152514914
Fuck off.
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>>152514914
>>152514952
They split, the absolute madmens.
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>>152511070
Attention whores. It is normally what drives them to do the scanlations in the first place.
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>>152514866

>Not searching for doujinshi that's exclusively in japanese

Reading my porn in english is unpleasant for me now.
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>>152514866
This also. And no awkwardly translated porn dialogue.
>>152514882
2 years to be able to read most manga, 6 years for 98% of contemporary japanese materials at 1-2 hours per day.
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>>152512600
writing few scripts in powershell doesn't make you "software engineer" you piece of fucking shit
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>>152514799
That looks fucking disgusting
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>>152514908
Like I said batoto was a mistake. Funny how the savior of scanlation, and killer of mangafox turned out.
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>reading porn
>reading
>porn
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>>152515032
Well sometimes the English translated ones are cleaned up since raws might be bad quality
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>>152514936
>I don't respect a law just because it exists.
Found the nigger
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>>152511505
>>152511603
>>152512514
>>152512107
>>152512231
>>152512400
>He still thinks Boku Girl hasn't been translated completely yet
>He wasn't in the threads from like 5 months ago with the anon posting the links to the translated Imgurs
I pity you fools
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>>152515074
you don't even know man, I had to read the entirety of GTO like that.
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>>152515139
Niggers don't respect laws exactly because they don't have the brain to decide for themselves.
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>>152515113
>>152515187
I would refuse to read such trash
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>>152514799
>So I take it you really enjoyed reading GTO scanlations? They really didn't care about cleaning and redrawing, and look how great it turned out to be. The original Tenjou Tenge scans had something similar going on IIRC.
Poorly cleaned manga is worse than uncleaned manga. The former burns out details. Especially when people decide to go wild with filters. The groups that did Negima were particularly prone to that.
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>>152511505
>boku girl final chapter

which chapter number is that?
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>>152515071
>writing few scripts in powershell doesn't make you "software engineer"
You can stop projecting
I earn big money for solving complex stuff, can you say the same? No need to answer
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>>152515305
107
And it is translated people in this thread are just stupid
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>>152515235
well then you would have to learn Japanese and find Japanese raws, since that used to be the only English version GTO. I'm pretty sure the english version of Ranma 1/2 is still the flipped localized version too.
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>>152514592
>work to conserve it in it's state

This is some epic level autism. We're talking about kid's comics that are printed on the cheapest possible recycled pulp, not Rembrandts. Wanting to "preserve" the look of a trade paperback is a fetish I haven't seen before, and I've been on here a long time. And with current manga, a large number of artists now work digitally, so its "original state" is an image format.

A properly scanned, leveled and cleaned version of a printed manga is its final form - if for no other reason than it won't crumble into brown dust in 10 years.
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>>152515303
Man, Negima scans are so shit. Perhaps the UQH anime will motivate people to rip the new versions and reuse translations or something.
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>>152515441
That's not even my final form.
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>>152515204
Just like you then.

Don't pretend you've got some moral superiority because you're too poorfag to pay for things.
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>>152515112
Other websites carry on without watermarks though. And they also like stuff what potato dropped.
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Nothing compared to VN/LN translation epeen race.
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>>152515303
>He believes things are right because they exist
found the retard
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>>152515626
>Calls someone a retard
>Can't even quote the right post
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>>152515622
VN translation is a ghost town
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>>152515775
in Golden Age
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>366 following
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>>152515698
thats not being retarded, thats just having dyslexia
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>>152515622
I can understand problems with VNs and LNs. It takes a significant amount of time just to read a novel, let alone translate and QC one. Even worse for a VN which usually have even more text than entire novel series and getting them to actually show English text can be non-trivial. If someone translates a VN they've got some serious dedication.
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>>152514226
>Artists shouldn't have any word about their works after they've created them.

You'd have less art if at least some people couldn't make enough money off it to focus on that instead of wasting their lives in some shitty salary position. I can't believe there are people too stupid to realize this.
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>>152515122
If you're that autistic that you can't deal with a bit of noise, just clean them yourself.

I've literally never even seen the point of cleaning. Cropping and truing the edges is nice, but cleaning is just fucking ugly, all the time. I actually prefer it when my raws look like scanned paper instead of detail-less trash because some 5 year old thinks it's closer to the original manuscript.

I can't imagine ever re-enabling English on the panda.
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>>152512935
>Then some faggots started to get mad for translating their "projects", even after asking for permission. It was stupid, so I sometimes would translate them just to make them rage. good times.

>haven't worked on something in two years
>noooo he stoooooole it!

Truly the stupidest shit.
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>>152515944
They realize it, they just don't care. Generally those people don't have jobs, so in their perspective everyone should just be like them and not have money.
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>>152511634
>those are usually the ones that plaster giant watermarks everywhere

Kissmanga and Batoto don't do that.

I'll never understand why people here suck Batotos dick when they refuse to host anything remotely adult in nature.
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>>152515303
Thank god Negima is shit. Prison School on the other hand.
>>152515441
Are you retarded? I specifically took the example reinassance paintings to demonstrate what my stand on altering the original work is.
>its "original state" is an image format
Wrong. A manga is supposed to get printed on paper.

Fuck you and your cancerous "cleaning".
>>152515561
Pfffffffhahahahahaha, I buy manga after I read them without even reading them just because I like them.
I have a brain and I use it, I don't simply follow laws.
>>152515944
That's ok because as with everything 90% of manga is garbage so there would be no loss.
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>>152515613
Batoto was also supposed to be a place to read online without resized images, along with no watermarks. The story of batoto is mangafox was making mad dosh from ads by hosting other people's manga transations. Mangafox was resizing the images to look like shit in additon to watermarking all the pages with their logo. Then the great watermark wars began, it started on credit pages(sometimes removed by mangafox) before spreading all over the pages. Batoto comes along saying ad money will go to the groups that host their projects here and people can rest assured they aren't supporting Chinese thieves. Somewhere along the line, I don't know how, the staff becomes shit and you have the batoto of today.
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>>152515324
I have worked as PM in the .NET bodyshop for 2 years, never fucking again. Managing monkeys from india and slav "countries" that considered copypasted code from stackoverflow as normal practice and were rewriting unit tests to hide their fuckups is fucking beyond me.
And all of them were earning "big money" and "solving complex stuff" at paper
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>>152516104
Maybe they're still stuck on the memories of the days when Batoto's flaws were still easy to ignore. Those days are long now of course.
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>>152516104
We already established long ago that Kissmanga downscales and reduces the quality of some manga.
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>tfw spectrumnexus is GOAT but limited selection because the owner handpicks
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>>152516159
>That's ok because as with everything 90% of manga is garbage so there would be no loss.

If there was less, you'd still have 90% garbage, so that 10% would just be even smaller. You'd have less good art.
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>>152515830
You think things like clannad, fate, and umineko could be fan translated today?
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>>152516104
Scanlators suck Batoto's dick because they have (had?) a revenue sharing model where they'd give the scanlators money from the ads. So they'd get mad when people hosted their scanlations elsewhere because they didn't get their delicious piracy dollars.
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>>152516281
I don't agree with that.
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>>152516174
>PM in the .NET bodyshop
>Managing monkeys from india and slav "countries"
>rewriting unit tests to hide their fuckups
Haha oh wow.
I can understand you being salty, project manager-kun. But not the whole industry is like that.
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>>152516357
And can you back that up?
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>>152516383
I don't know, can you? It's fucking hypothetical shit, genius.
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>>152516467
Not really, genius. Shakespeare wrote for fucking money, as did people like Dickens and Balzac. We wouldn't have their art if your braindead idea was realized.
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>>152516310
Umineko and Clannad are officially translated as I know
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>>152511070
The people who make this sort of drama are certainly doing what they do either for an extra buck on the side or because they want to feel special, more often the latter, either way you're helping them get what they they want by making a shitty thread like this. You deserve a public ban.
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>>152516209
Prove it
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>>152516583
Yeah they are, localized VN/eroge have really taken off.
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>>152512514
Link?
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>>152516701
post an image from kissmanga
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>>152511070
I've worked with dozens of different scanlation groups and I can safely say:
Because of girls.
No, seriously. The VAST majority of scanlation groups have girls as leaders, something that doesn't happen as much in the fansubbing scene. Every time some drama happened, it was because girl leader X got angry over girl leader Y.
>>
Using anything other than madokami is retarded.
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>>152516887
>naming the sekrit club
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>>152516887
MUH SEKRIT CLUB
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>>152516931
It's there to be used. Better than have newfags using exlusively mangafox and kissshit
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>>152516887
>MUH SEKRIT CLUB
Fuck off
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>>152516931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEofYZmuCM8
LOL
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>>152516887
I didn't know about it before but now I'll use it exclusively, thanks oldfag your sekrit klub is just a little less secret now.
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>>152516887
>a-am I fitting in guys?
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>>152516827
Autistic attention-whoring isn't limited to the other sex, anon.
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>>152517112
Limited? No.
Way more common to one gender? Absolutely.
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>>152516887
>reading manga in English
I'd rather pour bleach into my eye-sockets.
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>>152516887
all i see is a picture of a sad panda help??
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>people thinks i'm scanlating for free
Kek, i'm rolling on the money right now fags.
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>>152511285
>>152512482
>fpbp
What is this, some kind of epic reddit meme?
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>>152516827
It's no wonder batato went to shit when you consider what kind of people are running it.
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>>152517062
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>>152511449
It's like there isn't some massive number of good, willing translators jumping at the opportunity to work on what YOU want. What a concept, right?
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>>152517254
you're supposed to masturbate to the panda
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>>152511167

not sure why this thread is more than 2 posts.
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>>152511449
>tfw my japanese is better than my english
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>>152511730
You have the strangest ideas about us.
>>
Remember fansub drama? I'm sure glad that shit is over.
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>>152517384
I think he's being facetious, anon.
His point is that if "if they didn't do it, someone else would" held true, there wouldn't be so much untranslated manga.
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>>152511742
We pay for our shit out of pocket because we like the series that we do, but hey. Your story's cool too.
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>>152517289
>trying to turn the most communistic internet scene into a business
lol
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>>152516887
>naming it
>>152517062
fuck everything
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>>152512959

>implying I don't use adblock and ublock for every website i go on.
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>>152512067
Yeah, but we quiet scanlators aren't the ones they hear about. It just doesn't occur to them that we exist.
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>>152517440
>>152517482
Groups like Sick Mother give us all a bad name.
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>>152516525
Published, not wrote, genius.
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>>152511167
Spectacular.
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>>152517505
I wouldn't name it if I still thought of it as a secret of any kind.
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>>152517297
>What is this, some kind of epic reddit meme?
I think it's from /pol/. Nevermind. There's no difference now.
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>>152517507
>and
That's even worse
>>
Translator here (kind of).
I don't get why you would be mad when someone steals "your" series. Aren't we doing this because we like the series and want others to be able to read it too?
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>>152517505
People like you is why i madd a clip like that
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>>152517672

adblock are becoming more jewish so they're starting to whitelist a bunch of websites, so I just use ublock for the ones that are whitelisted.
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>>152517465
I know. I'm agreeing with him. There just isn't enough talent to go around. The "the pirate sites will just tl it for us, we don't need scanlators!!!" argument completely ignores niche series, on a related note.
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Summon ACK
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>>152514735
I'm glad I started learning 20 years ago. There is still so much stuff left untranslated. And even the best translations lose a lot from the original because the languages are so different.
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>>152516525
Also what the fuck does that have to do with anything? I simply said that less people living off manga wouldn't be a bad thing.
>>152516701
>notto dis shittu again
>>152516819
Retard I said "some".
>>152517706
>lol I'm stupid guys but I'm only pretending so it's okay, right?
Why the fuck would you want to ruin something that you care about? Or something good at all?
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>>152517739
Oh my bad.

>>152517694
Not condoning it, but a big part of that response is usually ad revenue/donations on their site.
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>>152517694
Translate page 4 to 9 here and I'll love you forever.
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/991766/e085ff0854/
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>>152517768
He translated things too, he's a nice guy.
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>>152517768
>peaceful thread
>mentally ill pedo tranny shows up to try an attract a raging autist
Fuck off.
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>>152517573
The other end of the spectrum is the quiet raw provider who asks for no payment and scans for multiple groups.
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>>152517736
Maybe you didn't realize it, but you can use Adblock lists on ublock and there's a large number of available lists in the dashboard
>>
I like aggregate sites because you can browse through new stories/easily get reccomendations for new manga based on ones you already liked.
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>>152517706
I reported your video to YT. Good luck, faggot.
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>>152517843
>He translated things too
I'm aware
https://anonscans.wordpress.com/

>>152517892
>>mentally ill pedo tranny
I'm not a tranny!
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>>152518033
>>
Since this kuso meta thread isn't going away anytime soon, which translators with tripcodes on /a/ are the least offensive?
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>reading your manga digitally
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>>152518133
Hox, of course.
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>>152518133
Stalker is pretty cool desu
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>people are actually defending niggastream because yonkou and jaimini are stealing their projects.
Topkek
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>>152518133
Thaifag was only tripfag used it right
Maybe Hox
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>>152516170
>Batoto comes along saying ad money will go to the groups that host their projects
People still buy this bullshit?

Mangafox&Potato debate is Hadena tier internet fight.
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>>152518230
All three are shit though. One is a bunch of niggas, the others are niggas with even less IQ and the third one doesn't even know any english.
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>>152518133
that stalker guy
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>>152518103
That's a nice image
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>>152518133
I posted some chapters with my trip 3-4 years ago. Threads were chill.
>>
>Some group decides to do your series.
>Can't stop them anyway so just tell them don't get mad if I do it again.
>They say bring it on.
>Release the latest chapter.
>They get butthurt. And tell me I'm unfair for doing the ahead chapters.
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>>152518425
>your series
>>
There's not much scanlation drama nowadays. It's obvious the anons here are butthurt oldfags.
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>>152518542
Hook, line, and sinker

thank you very much.
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>>152518542
My bad, "the mangaka's series"
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>>152518597
>I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>152518133
Hox, Stalker, js06
Boon, Thaifag, Elemhunter are gone
Royal, TLfag rarely post
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Is the takuo from niggastream the same takuo from the group that does that akb manga? If so, hes a fucking traitor.
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>>152518671
TF stopped posting because she got hired by the industry and is making sweet anime dosh now.
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>>152516887
They don't take raws anymore, so it's shit.
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>>152518950
I hope she has to work on the Centaur's Worries anime. That would warm my heart.
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>>152519016
>tfw when having to read some shitty translation because no raws anywhere to be found and the manga is not so good that you want to spend money on it
If I ever have a scanlation group I'll share every single raw I use.
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>>152519016
do we need a secret club just for raws?
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>>152518565
I'd bet the overwhelming majority of anons ITT are involved in scanlation in one way or other.
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>>152518950
>got hired by the industry
How did that happen?
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>>152519249
It would be useful definitely. The Japanese DDL sites are full of broken links and lack a lot of series.
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>>152519300
I doubt that.
Hell, a lot of the posts in actual scanlation threads on /a/ are usually people asking for things to get picked up.
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>>152519310
By applying yourself for a position?
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>>152519310
She applied. It really wasn't that tough for her.
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>>152511173
Because sites like kiss generally take what the translator worked on and slap a stamp on it then collect ad revenue. That's the only thing I really think translators have a right to be mad about, getting mad about other groups translating something faster than you is just stupid, it doesn't affect you're ability to keep releasing at you're own pace in any way.
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>>152518950
What a sellout.
Wait, why is she still releasing shit, if that's true? I see 19th January releases.
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>>152519349
>>152519390
I wonder if I could chat with her and find out more, I'd like to get in that game.
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>>152519249
That would be nice, maybe in the near future. I'm sure the number of weeaboos who can read moon and have an interest in raws is increasing with time.
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>>152519451
Hi, I'm a member of FWPA. No, she isn't still releasing. We have other translators.
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>>152519421
Kissmanga don't put watermarks on their manga.
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>>152519348
That's because those threads usually have OP's that basically say "Hey, there are translators here. Come and make some requests."
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>>152511070
>stealing from me
just like when he stole it from umino chika?
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>>152519421
Honestly if another group would be releasing what I'm working on I'd be pissed because I would have worked on something else if I knew it.
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>>152519510
I thought it was a one woman group.
Guess I'm confusing it with Hox.
>>152519534
Yeah but they still downscale and reduce the quality.
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>>152519477
Her email's still active as far as I know. Worth a shot.
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>>152519314
server money is one thing, but you also need a web dev to step up,set things up, and maintain it. I can understand why our current secret club abandoned raws, when your user base speaks English then it just takes up space.
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>>152519646
We're sort of in teams these days. There's Team Bird Cafe (I'll work on more this weekend), Team Jitsu, and Team Monmusu. There's some overlap, of course.
>>152519477
Or you can come to irc, because we know how to contact her.
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>>152519510
I have a question for you.

How come you guys often do a couple of chapters and then drop a series? I've been reading Happiness yesterday and I fucking hate having to read mangastream scans of it. It's ridiculous, why the fuck would those niggers want to do an author like Oshimi?
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>>152519879
Pretty sure that one was a joint with another group, which then got sniped by another group. Something like that.
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>>152519572
really depends on the speed you release things.
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>>152517831
Sorry but I really don't want to take on more things. Also, my translations aren't that good. I am using translations to learn Japanese. But here is the first page


>Koinumaru-san is a bit strict but since she is so beautiful she is very popular in class.
>But she has a pretty low guard...
>Oh, she noticed me.
>What are you doing?
>I'd like for you to stop staring at me but...
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>>152519707
why not ask /q+(ue)*/ for the sekrit club source code?
we can use it for the raws site.
maintaining it would be a pain, though.
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>>152516887
Why do tehy repack and rename almost everything?
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>>152519906
But why the fuck did it have to be those niggers from mangastream? I thought they only cared about commercial shit.
>>152519910
Well scanlators have jobs.
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>>152519879
I think that was right before I joined or I was just working on other stuff (like CW). I don't know the story/never asked about it.
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>>152520027
Because Daiz's retarded name system.
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>>152520090
>mocking the great daiz naming system
well, just enjoy your c1_1.jpg, c1_2.jpg, etc
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>>152520040
Probably something like "oh shit it's the same as the aku no hana dude let's fuckin do it fast" and that was it.
>>
I'm really getting tired of e-peen faggots whining at the slightest thing and people putting watermarks when it isn't even their works. Artbook scanners included.
I've been translating and scanning and ripping shit more or less anonymously here for the /a/ audience for several years now, although I'm less active now, and I never put a watermark or acted like a whiny bitch because I didn't get any recognition.
Goddamn, this is why I'm glad I can into Japanese and that I've got disposable income.
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>>152519972
anyone is free to hit them up on IRC

>>152520027
at least it is better than BBT's retarded policy.
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>>152520252
The people whining about epeens and putting on watermarks won't last long in the scanlation world.

...wait, Prozess is still around, isn't he? Shit.
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>>152520252
>I've got disposable income
F-Fuck you
;_;
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>>152519915
Well one of six pages, thank you!
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>tfw Hox will never translate your fav manga
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>>152519646
>Yeah but they still downscale and reduce the quality

No, they don't. Find me one example where they have done this
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>>152520071
Well you should feel bad for having left us with niggerstream anyway.
>>152520193
Fuck off, Daiz, go back sucking that fakku guy's dick.
>>152520194
I really wish all niggerstream members get cancer.
>>152520252
>I never put a watermark or acted like a whiny bitch because I didn't get any recognition.
Why start doing it now?
What'd you do?
>>
E-penis.
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>>152520301
Those shoujo/josei-oriented groups are still a thing, you know. Besides, people will eat virtually anything you shit out, watermarks or not.
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>>152520416
Nah I'm never going to put watermarks.
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>>152520350
Tfw Hox will never do live translate Punpun again
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>>152520350
>tfw aked Hox to do Dousei Jidai for years
>tfw he's finally doing it
>tfw it's getting translated in my country
Better laugh about it.
>>152520388
Nigger we had I don't know how many threads about it, fuck off to the archive, I'm not your mother.
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>>152520513
Which leaves us with the other option.
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>>152513261
>Also, manga fox is just a wasteland now because literally every series is licensed and therefore unavailable.

on usa
mangafox has all the mangas for 3rd world countries to read
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>>152520416
Oh, misunderstood you.
I'm just venting, that's all.
I'm aware I'm just pissing in an ocean of piss.
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>>152520193
Daiz you forgot your tripcode.
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>>152520739
I unironically think that Daiz's naming scheme is a good thing.
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>>152520784
Mmh, I wonder who this might be.
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>>152514226
Don't we have meguka? (wrote it wrong for obvious reasons)
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>>152520876
Is Daiz the best thing to ever come out of finland?
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>>152520784
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>>152520910
hes the only thing
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>>152520892
Here for you >>152516887 >>152517062
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>Name of Manga [lang] - c000-000x0-0 (mag/web/mix/v00-00) [Extra Information] [Group]{revision}.zip

Discuss
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>>152520910
Linus Torvalds?
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>>152512757
FUKE rage quitting because he's supposed to get dibs on all the NAPATA work and some guy beat him to one.
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>>152521012
Half-swedes dont count.
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>>152521010
It's perfect. There's nothing to discuss.
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>>152521010
Works for me!
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>>152520892
Where do you think madokami rips shit from? For fuck's sake they even rip from Kissmanga instead of the scanlators.
>>152520910
Does Finland even have one good thing about it? They're just a shitty Sweden and Norway.
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>>152520973
Not like a small thread will make a difference, they only care about the ones making profit out of it.
Madokami will be a safe heaven, I still remember the Manga traders happening.
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>>152521010
Beautiful, simple, elegant. A true masterpiece.
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>>152520910
No, that was the Moomins
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>not scanlating for your own enjoyment and personal collections
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>>152521156
Kissmanga shit comes from automation, it is supposed to be purged by proper releases when possible.
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>>152521010
I bet it uses the golden ratio as well.
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>>152520581
>Nigger we had I don't know how many threads about it, fuck off to the archive, I'm not your mother

Searching it in the archive brings up posts literally saying that they DON'T downscale and resize their images. If you want to post bullshit without even being prepared to back it up I suggest you fuck off back to /pol/
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>>152515303
Negima raws weren't exactly good. Scanlators did the best they could to make them not give complete eye cancer.
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>make a thread about commie because herkz was being a cunt
>get banned because "ponies belong in /mlp/"
>make a thread about literal who's drama
>lol no that's fine! *eats hotpocket*
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>>152511505
I thought people just stopped caring after it ended like I did
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>>152521356
Is that acceptable print quality in japan?
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>>152521416
For a magazine release, yes. Those are meant to be throwaway prints.
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>>152511070
that trump meltdown this guy is having right now
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>>152521456
Oh sweet Jesus.
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>>152521416
you get several hundreds of pages for less than like JPY 500, so yeah, print quality is less than phonebook tier.
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>>152511070
Imagine:
>They released my work.
>I asked them to take it down, obviously, because they used it without my permission.
>Well apparently they put in a notice saying. "This is a temporary release. Please buy the official manga."
>I'm so sichk of this. I'm so sick of all my hard work being dismissed and devalued by people that keep fucking me over.
>I've been working 70 hour weeks for the last 5 years drawing this.
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>>152521341
Or how about you stop being a newfag and lurked those threads?

Kissmanga downscales some manga nad reduces the quality of some manga. You can compare the dimension of the single image files with the one from the scanlators.
It was proved that they do all this at least for some series, since I don't give a shit about that retarded option I didn't pay much attention so I didn't gather proofs or save the post number.

Anyway if you prefer kissmanga to scanlators or madokami you're cancer.
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>>152521560
When will japs embrace e-readers and manga ebook releases? It would be the perfect fit.
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>>152521416
They are. That's why most weekly manga from years ago look so bad. It's not so bad nowadays, specially for Kodansha series, since they've been released digitally as well.

>>152521560
>you get several hundreds of pages for less than like JPY 500
That's for monthly magazines. Weekly magazines are around JPY 250.
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>>152521416
>>152521356
That's not even bad, much much better than that scan posted before.
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>>152514545
>they had an entire crackdown on ecchi manga
And yet they allow TLR Darkness, Tsugumomo, and Prison School.
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>>152511505
People intentionally didn't translate and release the last 4 boku girl chapters because they were so awful they ruined the series retroactively.
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>>152521636
>/v/
>having a sekrit club mentality
Are you retarded?
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>>152521636
>getting scared by other people having standards for the thing they love
Oh, fuck off, you shiteater.
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>>152521626
The major magazines are already doing it.
Jump has to be easily purchasable by kids with their money, so that's why it's still not really mainstream.

>>152521666
You're right, I was simply giving a broad figure to that anon.
Isn't Jump like 400-500 pages?
That explains the shit quality.
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>>152521705
I hope the guy turned back to a man and that people got mad at it.
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>>152511070
>I asked them to take it down, obviously, because they used my translation without my permission

How can he not see the irony?
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>>152521735
>standards
>has yet to post an example
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>>152521894
I. Don't. Care.
I already explained to you how it works.
Go use your shitty site, why the fuck would I waste energy for you, retard?
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>>152511070
Confirmation bias.
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>>152521894
Stop responding to his shitty bait they only hate Kiss because they affiliate with Kissanime
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>>152521010
>Page names
>This will define how to name individual pages inside archives. Details to follow.
Updates when
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>>152522008
No one can be this stupid, please tell me you're just trolling.
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>>152516819
Not the guy you are replying to.

Who cares? I dont see any ads on my phone and the images are good enough for what they are for.

If i cared to collect digital manga, id download the scans.
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>>152521984
See look now that you've called him out on it enough times he resorts to

>I-I don't care
>y-you're just retarded

He's probably a jewcob shill
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>>152522233
Ok, now I know you're trolling.
>>152522217
>Om Nom, this shit is so good
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>>152522331
Its manga and its free. I use kiss because they host everything. That is way more valuable than viewing a marginally better image directly from scanlators.
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>>152522331
>gets completely BTFO by multiple people
>im getting le troled xD

You should stop
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>>152522403
There hasn't been any evidence that KM does those things in the first place. It's just attention whores unironically shilling for their secret club
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>>152522492
>being a kiss manga shill
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>>152522403
Your pc can host everything.
>>152522436
You didn't prove kissshit leaves manga as they come from the scanlators.
>>152522492
It's been proved in multiple manga threads.
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>>152511070
Believe it or not, scanlating is very time consuming and unrewarding.
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>>152522610
>You didn't prove kissshit leaves manga as they come from the scanlators

The scans are 1:1 scraped from scanlator sites
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>>152522641
>there are people in this thread who don't realize the superiority in DLing manga and using cbr to read it
SAD!!
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>people are defending shitty sites that resize and lower the quality of images
This place truly is dead
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>>152522708
didn't mean this as a reply
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>>152522689
Then prove it, because I say it's already been proved they're not. Not all, at least.
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>>152511249
They don't """"deserve"""" anything. They are just losers who cannot draw, write, or animate, but still want to feel like the are part of that creative world by stealing the work of real artists. The only people who deserve praise are the translators who understand the author and expressing it in a new language to a wider audience.
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One of the recent uploads.

Batoto
http://bato.to/reader#5f8d08636cccdcff
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>>152511249
>praise, gratitude, and general attention
I don't care, I only translate because I want more people to read the series I love. And it gives me an excuse to stare at the pages more. Of course, no one will snipe me because no one besides me and few readers cares about those manga. Well, I guess I have to admit I'm glad when some people besides me discover them.
And it's not like I don't like popular manga, it's just someone else is always translating it, so why bother?
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>>152522798
Kissmanga
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Isekai-Shihai-no-Skill-Taker-Zero-kara-Hajimeru-Dorei-Harem/Vol-001-Ch-003--Chapter-003?id=343906

Literally same file. Had to make a dot into the second bubble to post.
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>>152522798
>that shit typesetting
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>>152522782
Hey, somebody has to do the typesetting. It's not as if every cleaner, redrawer or typesetter is a drama queen. It's jut that those faggots stand out more. Also, there are just as many cancerous translators, and this is coming from one.
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>>152514952
They were moved to /int/ and some from the /int/ group split off to /jp/
So both boards have daily djt threads
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>>152522641
That doesn't give anybody the right to complain. If you want people praising you and giving you exclusive rights to the shit you worked on don't try to earn that through clandestine comic translation.
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>>152522798
>>152522875
>some
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>>152522641
Believe it or not, drawing manga and anime is 10x more time consuming and just as unrewarding. Yet you hardly see those artists whining like 12 year olds even though scanlators constantly steal their work.
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>>152523061
Then show me a recent one where it isnt
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>>152523061
>some
>still no proof despite proof being given from the other party completely proving them right
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>>152523087
You hardly see those artist because you can reach them retard.
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>>152523126
He literally can't, and if he does find one I'll bet you its resized and fucked up on Batoto just the same.
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>>152523087
>just as unrewarding
No, no, you don't get it. Most scanlation groups LITERALLY do it FOR FREE. And the artists whine all the time, just read those Shounen Jump artist talk pages.
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>>152523126
Use the archive, it's a huge hassle for me,
>>152523151
Do you even logic? He proved one series is.
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>>152522782
That's super wrong. I translate and I really think it's much easier than typesetting (since I one-man-armied some stuff). In the end, I just can't do it without a typesetter, so you really need both otherwise there would be no releases. It's like, what's the point of a gun without bullets?

>>152514545
By the way, how does one manually upload to Kissmanga? I'm asking in case something gets deleted from bato.
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>>152523264
So you can't, because there isn't, got it.

>Do you even logic? He proved one series is.
Well you proved 0.
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>>152522641
most translators and editors don't care as long as it's fun
if it ain't fun, they'd just quit scanlating
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How is mangaseeonline in terms of how many series they have?
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>>152511070
because working on manga is such a fucking waste of time compared to working on anime
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>>152523158
What?
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>>152523351
>Well you proved 0.
Because it's esponentially harder to do so, can't you understand why? Especially if I don't use that shitty site, or any other.
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>>152521698
>prison school
that one makes sense considering how the president is a man hating bitch
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>>152523511
You're a nigga. No need to prove it, because it would take work and I'm making shit up anyway just like you.
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>>152523511
>Especially if I don't use that shitty site, or any other.
>believe me when I shit talk a site I don't use without having any evidence!!
Wow man
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>>152520027
Several reasons. Hashes are never used in the scanlation scene, so repacking doesn't matter. In fact, there are groups that don't release archives and just put them on shitty online readers, so sometimes you just have to pack them anyway. Aside from making organization easier, it makes reading manga easier. When your manga viewer automatically loads the next chapter, it won't load them out of order if they're named correctly. It also makes it much easier to deal with manga programmatically when it's named correctly.
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>>152523607
For the thousandth time, I've been in several threads where they proved Kissmanga resizes and reduces the quality of some series.

They don't even get the manga from the source sometimes.
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>>152523511
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>>152523689
>For the thousandth time, I've been in several threads where they proved Kissmanga resizes and reduces the quality of some series.
For the thousandth time, I've been in several threads where they proved Kissmanga doesn't resize and doesn't reduce the quality of some series. Two can play this game.
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>>152523689
>I've been in several threads where they proved Kissmanga resizes and reduces the quality of some series

Then link to the archive post faggot, so far you've done nothing to prove your side of the argument. Despite others doing so and completely proving you wrong.
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anti-kissmangafag is a bigger autist than the fag in the op
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>>152522724
>people are defending shitty sites that resize and lower the quality of images
People are defending KissManga which isn't in that image you mongoloid.
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>>152523792
Not him but I don't see why you'd want to use an online reader regardless of whether they compress or downscale.
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I remember Btooom releases with this giant watermark "if you see this in online readers you should kill yourself".
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>>152523816
Because I don't download every single piece of shit manga I read.
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>>152523816
Mobile
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>>152520350
wasnt hox a mod? saves some time and start deleting scanlation meta complaint for god's sake
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>>152523836
Its not like its more effort, its downloaded while you're reading anyway.

>>152523850
I read all my manga on a tablet and Perfect Viewer is vastly better than any online reader.
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>>152523753
Except you haven't.
>>152523764
I just found this, not a proof but shows people other than me know about the thing.
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/142635582/#142652935
>>152523836
Then read less garbage, shiteater.
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Is RapeMan dead? I haven't heard from him on here since he dropped Maou no hajimekata
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>>152523914
Bet the guy you linked is you too. Again with no proof.
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>>152523914
>I found this
>it's not proof but it is an old thread where I tried to force the same opinion
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>>152523850
>>152523816

it´s nice read manga in your vertical tablet of high resolution (1920 or more)
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>>152523914
>Except you haven't.
You havent either.
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>>152523929
he didn't reply my email, he's dead ;_;
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>>152523947
>>152523983
Fucking retards, for fuck's sake.
Yeah, all those people calling out fags for using kissmanga it's me.
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Great thread guys.
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>>152524064
Seeing how you still (!) couldnt give one (1) proof, yes.
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>>152524090
Thanks!
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>>152523816
don't want to waste a single mb of hd space on weeb shit
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>>152524119
>(!)
Really?
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>>152524157
!
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>>152524151
Aren't the images saved on your cache?
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>>152524011
What? I read on a Galaxy Tab S, which is 10.5" 2560x1600. Perfect Viewer is fantastic with it and scales perfectly.
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>>152514549
What is Succubus stayed life?
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>>152524090
Blame jewcobs shillforce and daiz
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>>152524197
>Aren't the images saved on your cache?
By this I mean from online readers
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Fun fact: Did you know the kiss sites are owned by a saudi arabian prince?
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>>152524197
Smart users set their browser cache to delete itself after closing the browser
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>>152524256
Wouldn't surprise me
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>>152524282
>writing caches to disk just to delete them afterwards
>smart
Pick one
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>>152511167
WOW, literally perfect.

>>152511070
They are under age amateurs in the nip, or engrish language. They do it because they actually enjoy being the one to translate it for other fans, or for be epeen points. They sure as hell not professionals. Then again, I remember the localization faggot at Funi going off blaming GamerGaters for shitty on him for changing a line in the Prison School dub.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

At least they are not paid for their drama. This fuck was.
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>>152524256
How do this affect me?
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>>152524410
its sexually arousing
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>>152524119
It's 2 am.
All I can say is search for very HQ releases and compare them, you'll probably find the proof you want-
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Terraformars and ReZero are 2 resized kissmanga series if anyone still cares.
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>>152524527
Your the one claiming shit, so you do.
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>>152524537
Same file again
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Terra-ForMars/Chapter-202?id=342546
http://bato.to/reader#3f3cdaa8ba0c5e2c
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>>152524256
Proof?
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>>152524537
Same file
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Re-Zero-Kara-Hajimeru-Isekai-Seikatsu-Dainishou-Yashiki-no-Shuukan-Hen/Chapter-019?id=342165
http://bato.to/reader#6ae72e3f405063ce

>>152524686
Kill yourself.
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>>152524390
Not everyone is a poorfag using shitty cheap spinning platter drives in 2010+7
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>>152524765
>>152524668

DELET THIS
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>>152524849
>using up your write cycles for no reason
Good shit.
>>
Internet drama is shitty drama.
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>>152525091
My drive is rated for like 8 years of nonstop write cycles before it shows signs of failing. I don't buy shitty drives like you
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>>152524765
>>152524668
Kissmanga first

this is terraformars 200 page 2,
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>>152511167
/fuckingthread
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>>152525321
and here is batoto
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>>152513022
Wait, you're talking about fucking damedame
That entire thing was solid gold
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>tfw feel like translating
>cleaning etc too much effort

LNs would be nice, I was pretty upset when Machine Doll stopped.
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>>152513563
I'm dangerously on a similar path. What do?
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>>152525541
When you're in Japan knock up a qt JK so you can get citizenship and have her be the OL breadwinner after she graduates
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>>152525321
Thats not a kissnigga filename, also Im on phone, whats different?
>>
Eh, it keeps it interesting. If you've never experienced e-peen it's incredibly intoxicating. To be important.

However the only thing that really kills a translator is A Real Job™. Scanlators justify it with other shit because they like the drama but that's the truth.
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>>152525649
>tfw scanlations stop because "finals" are coming up
>they think their shitty arts degree actually will matter

It's painful to watch
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>>152525604
It's ripped straight from KM. the filesize is half. terrformars has bad raws so it doesn't matter. Just showing they don't have original files, im also not the guy way up the reply chain so I don't care if plebs read KM.
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>mfw all the kissshills have disappeared now
Hilarious.
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>>152525590
Japanese was a mistake.
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>>152512959
>not using the secret club
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>>152525508
>cleaning etc too much effort
You can get somebody to do it for you, you know?
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>>152513203
>The reality is, with your method, you'll think it means something awkward like "change into a mistake demon"
So that's why that Honda motorcycle manual says "for the skid demon lurks there."
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>>152525921
Still here Jewcob, you've yet to prove anything.
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>>152525367
>>152525321

I just double checked for myself on the websites, they're actually the same. He must have upscaled the other one
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>>152525980
Less chinese sites to profit off what I'm doing too. There are loads of LNs out there and barely any get translated.
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>>152526270
Because 99% of LNs are shit.
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