For such a manly teacher, he's easily scared by male dominance.
Tsuneki is such a tease, but she is a pure girl at heart.
While she is feisty and that's kinda refreshing, she's a slut and I can't stand sluts, could have made her without the whole enjo kousai and wanted to be railed by men at the beach thing.
Tsuneki is a goddess. I don't particularly like how the route is progressing, but she herself is great.
Junichi was kind of beta in Haruka's arc, but he tried more. The problem I have with Shouichi is that he doesn't do anything at all. Alpha/beta/whatever JUST DO SOMETHING. Don't sit around waiting for a girl to fall in your lap.
>hating on the best Amagami
>that complete lack of interest from Nips
>the only one getting 400+ replies is a Ruise thread
>Junichi was kind of beta in Haruka's arc
I strongly disagree with you there.
>asked for a kiss
>made a speech in front of the whole school, asked her to marry him
Just off the top of my head, I think he was pretty alpha in that arc.
>the only one getting 400+ replies is a Ruise thread
Call me crazy, but I'm sure that a thread on episode day is gonna get more replies.
>made a speech in front of the whole school, asked her to marry him
While I agree, that was SS+ so it doesn't count.
400+ replies and multiple threads isn't exactly a "complete lack of interest" though it does seem to be less popular than its spiritual predecessor. If you want to shitpost about shit flopping and the like, I suggest a stalker thread.
>tfw still waiting for subs
It will be a hard relationship to start because of all the attention they would get.
Most people on /a/ keep forgetting how many mean glares Kamita was getting for getting to interact with Tsuneki.
Look in the background behind Kamita's head.
3 boys were giving Kamita the stink eye for talking with Tsuneki.
Also, Tsuneki dating Kamita might cause her to break off her friendship with her two friends.
This is usually something that happens when two people begin dating.
Either the Guy ditches his bros for his Girlfriend in the end or the Girlfriend ditches her friends for her Boyfriend.
This also happens when you get married as well.
The married woman slowly stops hanging out with her single friends and instead starts making friends with the mothers of her own children's similar aged friends.
Meanwhile, the husband slowly stops hanging out with his single friends as well and his friends in the future may be coworkers or the fathers of his own children's friends.
This is just a fact of life.
Relationships change when people hook up.
Fuck CR. There was a nice period inbetween slow fansubs and CR picking everything that had good, speedy fansubs. Fuck everything.
Haruka's wedding picture shows either her father or mother is white.
We do know for a fact Haruka's grandparents are British and live in Britain since Haruka was only going to spend summer vacation in the UK but her white female cousin tricked Junichi into thinking Haruka was leaving Japan for a long time.
Well I think one of the appealing things about Junichi was while he had a few spaghetti moments, there were also times where he had his shit together and was able to act pretty cool.
This heavily depended on the route though. There were routes where he was a complete betalord with spaghetti flying everywhere and some routes where he was actually actively wooing the girl. Usually, this depended on how pro-active the girl herself was. In Tsuneki's case she's arguably more aggressive than any of the Amagami girls, and actually presents any shy nerds dream girl since there's no need for him to actually go and approach her on her own. To me it looks like this is what they're going for. People who want to see a guy going after a girl and attempting to win her over aren't the target audience here. The focus is obviously on the girl teasing the boy she's interested in.
Junichi was alpha enough to ask a girl out before.
Kamita has yet to ask a girl out.
Junichi therefore has more balls and it is also because Junichi is a Big Brother.
Kamita is a Little Brother in comparison so there is no past trauma or incentive to prove anything to anyone since he isn't going to outshine his big sister anytime soon.
Also, his best friend isn't Umehara or Kaoru but Ai's little brother who is serious and straight laced so Ai's little brother isn't really going to encourage Kamita to do anything irrational or stupid which means Kamita has no one around to make him do crazy things.
Like at least Umehara is bro enough to lend porn magazines or porn DVDs.
I can't even imagine Ai's little brother would ever lend Kamita porn mags or DVDs.
The first arc was quite okay thus far. It's the only thing like Amagami we've gotten in years so I don't see your complaint.
Amagami is one of my favourite anime and getting something only half as good is more than enough for me.
Rewatching Amagami serves no purpose because I've already watched it and played the game.
I say that she's not as agressive as Ayatsuji, but then again she's impossible to beat.
Back when Seiren was announced Takayama himself said that the girls this time around would be more aggressive and forward. We're seeing the result of that so far.
>In a game like “g2”, the player decided the protagonist’s actions, so there were parts where the game would forgive licking or kissing certain parts, if only barely. (*sweats*).
>So this time I reduced the occasions in which the protagonist would jump out like a hound at the girls, like Junichi would do when Attack commands succeeded.
>But it was also thanks to the decision I made that, opposite to “g2”, we ended up with more scenes in which the girls drag the protagonist around and mess with him.
>Anyway, about the title, it carries the meaning of an upright, clean and pure love.
As opposed to rating Tsuneki on a scale of passive - aggressive, she just seems like a tease to me. Anyway it loses a lot of its appeal for Kamita being so beta.
>Anyway, about the title, it carries the meaning of an upright, clean and pure love.
I have no doubt this is true, but the jealous feels are not exactly what I'd call pure. Jealousy is not a "pure" feeling by my estimation.
>I say that she's not as agressive as Ayatsuji, but then again she's impossible to beat.
Ayatsuji was in some regards similar, in others not. What they had in common was that Ayatsuji also pursued the MC. After he found out about her true self, she couldn't leave him alone and in the game started to outright bully him - and not even in that friendly of a manner. I remember playing the game and the first interactions with her after finding out about her true self were actually quite scary.
Tsuneki is also pro-active, but more in a playful manner - albeit quite a bit more mischievous than Haruka who was very innocent in her playfulness. With Tsuneki, there's a much more distinct layer of sexual tension, and especially in the beginning it was by no means certain whether her teasing was all that friendly, e.g. pointing out his deviance in front her friends. That could as well have been seen as light bullying.
That quote however confirms what I've said before: the experience this time is less about a guy winning over girls but more about girls teasing and messing with a guy. I for one can see the appeal in that so I don't see the issue, albeit it may disappoint others. I would argue that this is more of a western sensibility. In Japan people might be more eager to accept a passive male character while the west would rather have the man play the active role.
>There were routes where he was a complete betalord with spaghetti flying everywhere
Even in those arcs (Haruka, Tsukasa), he had great moments.
>asked her out
>asked her out again
>roleplayed as kidnapper
Beggars can't be choosers, Anon. Why would I complain about entertainment when it entertains me? Whether it's not as good as the previous show is unimportant if it also delivers a similar kind of good that allows me to pass time. What else would I be doing with my time? Shitpost on /a/? Any show that's entertaining is good in my book, leave the virtue signalling in form of presenting oneself as a connoisseur and a "the best is only good enough for me" type of attitude to others.
I'm enjoying the show. Maybe you should refer to >>152489457 and >>152489670 to see whether you're not looking at the show with false expectations.
>the experience this time is less about a guy winning over girls but more about girls teasing and messing with a guy.
That seems to be the case so far, though I hope it's not true.
I think he's quite okay. I don't get why some people are upset - or rather, I do get why they're upset but I don't see it as a particularly upsetting issue to me.
Still, he was mostly passive in Tsukasa's route - to a pretty much masochistic degree even. Seiren seems to aim for something similar, at least in this route. Judging by >>152489457 it might be a general theme of the show though. I could still see Shouichi being a bit more confident when interacting with the other girls though, Kyouko in particular.
I think Shouichi is just very beta in this arc because of Tsuneki's personality. She's very aggressive so naturally that means that you need someone more passive on the receiving end.
I'm sure he'll be better in the other arcs. He's comfortable around his childhood friend and he also likes playing video games so maybe he'll be less autistic in Kyoko and Toru's arcs because he can naturally be more friendly with them and actually take steps towards a relationship.
>he'll be less autistic in Kyoko and Toru's arcs
I think so too.
However, he generally seems to be set up to be more passive of a character. As others have pointed out, unlike Juunichi he's not an older- but a younger brother, and his best friend is also not a goofy guy like Ume but a more serious type of guy.
I think people just need to enjoy the experience of seeing the girl do the work for once and the male blushing and getting startled by her advances.
>I think people just need to enjoy the experience of seeing the girl do the work for once and the male blushing and getting startled by her advances.
I see that in every anime, maybe it would be more enjoyable if they didn't execute it in the exact same way every time.
>girl does something very mildly provocative
>2 second pause
>faggot MC: wait a minute! you shouldn't do that! That's not studying!
rinse and repeat
literally happened what 3 times in this fucking episode alone.
Just as useless as we all are.
>I see that in every anime
Most other anime of that kind are stuck in harem hell though. This one focusses on a single couple each route.
Being alpha or beta isn't the same thing as being assertive or passive. They're related concepts, but not identical.
I don't expect Shouichi to go give an impassioned speech in front of the swimteam about how small breasts are great, because he's not that type of guy. But I do expect him to not let all his progress with Tsuneki go to waste just because she stopped talking to him.
Go to sleep, Ikuo.
I hope Kisai Takayama is drawing more Seiren art.
>Can I kiss your ribs?
>Can I kiss your belly button?
>Can I kiss the back of your knee?
>SMELL MY DICK WHILE I'M TAKING A SHIT
What's with the sudden jump in fetishes?
So what do you think about Hikari so far? I like her, despite her being a normalfag. On Seiren, I think something's missing. Maybe it's that while some flirting and events are nice, the romance in this arc is sure taking a while. Shoichi is a decent MC, I don't like nor dislike him so far.
Because she knows she's the best girl.
I completely agree. Hikari is lovely. I still enjoy Seiren though. We'll see how they manage to wrap up the first arc.
I don't know if I can say I like her better than Haruka, she's lovely. Hikari is a different kind of lovely. There's still one episode left, she can turn it around after using the shopowner for jelly.
It's funny how simply outright saying this to her instead of trying to cover it up would make him a more likeable and fun MC.
Fucking Japan and their need to make them all betas. I miss Kaze no Stigma.
Nobody can be compared to Haruka anon, she's out of these girls league. Besides Tsuneki isn't good at Engrish like Haruka.
I'm enjoying her arc so far and character, she's a great tease and friendly girl. She's not shy or timid so I'm enjoying that compared to Sae in Amagami.
>bullied by female students
>sexually assaulted by male ones
Sensei has a hard life.
Anons have been talking about Kaze no Stigma for the longest time. How did Kazuma become the poster child for alpha MC's? I feel like there are others who are at least as alpha as him.
That's the whole point. She rhetorically asked him to repeat what he said in an angry voice so the proper response was to back down here. It was just a little power play, nothing all too serious. And the right thing to do at this stage was to let the girl win rather than have an argument or drag out the length while she was still waiting outside.
I prefer a nice simple girl like Haruka. Hikari is the type who would worry about all sorts of things, how people think about her, etc.
In the long run, it would be much harder to keep Hikari happy, she is a restless, discontented spirit.
To me it sounds like you want to autistically force an argument at an ill-fitting situation, calling it "banter". I assume you'd also have liked if he offered her some eggs? But maybe I am missing your point.
In any case it's getting late here, so I don't have the time to debate this any more.
kid's the biggest lewdlord i've ever seen, what a legend
>It raining tomorrow
I'm not sure if they did this accidently or are trying to show off Souichi's English skills accurately.
I'm more inclined to think it's the former.
I actually misspelling "accidentally" in a post criticizing my Chinese cartoon's English. Time to neck myself.
MY FUCKING DICK
When is this girls route gonna finish so i can drop it?
Fuck this bitch as everybody wins pussy shit from the writer
I'm just not feeling this show. The pace of the MC and the girl is pretty slow compared to Amagami. After the third episode of their respective arc, Amagami girls already showed more affection toward MC and their relationships had reached to a higher level. Sure Tsuneki has developed a feeling toward Kamita but their relationship hasn't progress much since the first episode. It's just more teasing. I'm worried that the develpoment between Tsuneki and Kamita will be rushed by the next episode.
>everybody wins pussy shit from the writer
Damn what a wasted potential. I'm not buying this "being a cheap slut means being best girl" shit.
I certainly didn't expect nor wanted this kind of girl from an Amagami-related series.
I thought that maybe MC would de-whorize her through love or something like that but it was just wishful thinking. Also, aside from Whoreneki cooking scrambled eggs with potatoes there wasn't any real development through these 3 episodes either. She's still the same "I behave like a slut because I know I can have any cock I want inside my pussy" whore and MC is the same passive fuck he's ever been.
At this point I'm just sticking with this series in hopes that next heroines will be something remotely similar to Magami or Kimkiss heroines and not whores taken out of a gangrape NTR hentai.
If I wanted a show about cheap whore heroines I'd have watched Kuzu no Honkai.
She already went nude
>ywn have a slut wanting to personally show you her swimsuit
why even live
I just want them to get lovey-dovey dammit, is that too much to ask? None of this teasing one guy shit. I reckon the end is gonna be some "I like you Kamita-kun" and then roll credits bullshit
It will end on the confession and them starting dating. Probably some lewd skinship too.
Unfortunately no raburabu cute couple stuff, but Amagami was mostly the same.
Not until SS+ did we get that. Tsukasa's SS+ arc was great because of it too.
Nah man, Junichi was going along deitos with almost all the girl(obviously not including Rihoko) and have some cute bonding shit with them(Haruka's cafeteria scene, Kaoru's diner discussion, Sae's training with Junichi)
Not actual dates though. They weren't a couple at that point in the scenarios you mentioned.
He definitely did spend time with them, but usually not until the very end.
That's why I said mostly the same. There were small deitos at the very end for some of the girls.
How long until best girl?
Did she mean guys should prepare for condoms anytime?
And always have extras in case she wants to go again.
Now that's what I'd call a semon demon.
>A top tier fetish I might add.
I want to know how you enjoy this show. Do you self-insert, pretending to be a high school boy with the ability to get some action?
Or do you enjoy watching a realistic high school setting without self-inserting? In that case, do you also watch 3D high school shows? You should, since the only difference is the cartoon format.
1 episode to finish her arc seems kinda hard to do, because it doesnt feel like there has been a lot of romantic development
>do you also watch 3D high school shows?
>staring at her soles when he could be staring at the bare lower back she's flaunting
also I'm pretty sure the ending of this arc will just be her laughing at him and calling him a dork for never noticing she was flirting with him THIS HARD but he kept thinking she was after sempai.
>I'm pretty sure the ending of this arc will just be her laughing at him
It'd be well deserved to be frank.
The best feet-service anime has to offer.
First route is a flop. They have zero chemistry. Tsuneki is a slut who latched on to the easiest source of validation and MC is a pussy that would fuck any girl that got touchy feely with him.
Amagami had real romance.
>lying on a guy's bed is okay
>wearing a bikini and giving him a private show is okay
>taking a bath together is okay
>letting him enter her room is okay
>somehow him seeing her underwear is not okay
What kind of slut logic is this?
Slutneki is only useful for her feet nothing else.
She has a fantastic ass and midriff but you go for the feet. Sasuga, Lelouch.
>rub and leave your warm sweat, piss, and juices all over my desk
>smell my dick while I take a shit
>let me get a good look of those soles of your feet
>wear my dirty ass sweats that are so tight they leave indentation marks on your belly
>slurp my leftover ramen broth like a thirsty bitch
>let me see and drink your piss while you wear that kindergarten uniform
MC is my nigga. I only hope they can keep it up.
You don't like elementary schooler piss?
No, just a failure ;_;
So Moe-nees fluffly haired friend isnt a stalker. Unless shes good at hiding it.
It kind of makes sense to me that Tsuneki would be friends with someone like that. They both have shallow personalities. As they say, the company you keep is a reflection of yourself. At the very least Tsuneki is a poor judge of character, which wouldn't normally bode well for MC.
I am inclined to agree with you. There is practically no trust between them, and it is palpable. One of the strong points of Amagami was that the relationships for the most part grew around mutual trust/attraction. Well, maybe next route will be different.
On the plus side, atleast they started off the cour with the worst girl. Can hopefully only get better from here.
Will they get together conclusively next episode? They have to do that and deal with the drama and stuff in 22 minutes. I feel like the Amagami arcs moved faster than this, even though they all have the confession in the last episode of each arc.
Kyouko does have the potential to have the Tounogland.
How can you say you love her if she doesnt want to give you a blumpkin?
>Ikuo will never wink like that at you
Why even contemplate my existence
>Your nee-san will never attempt to cheer you up with a 3some with one of her friends
Man, this is the worst timeline
Episodes 2 & 3 has progress between Shouichi and Hikari, but it doesn't feel like romantic progress. I really expect the final episode to be a more low-key confession. They'll realize they have a thing for each other and start dating.
>I feel like there are others who are at least as alpha as him.
While being inexperienced teenagers and paired with a tsundere (and not being emotionally dead)? I don't remember any, though I only watched 600 shows.
Coming from someone that marathoned Amagami after watching the first episode of Seiren, Tsuneki > Rihoko/Sae
Rihoko in particular is shit due to how passive she is. Her arc doesn't even end with her and Junichi getting together.
Or she could be bluffing. Lots of girls put up fronts and it was strange when she had that phone call (sister?) that knew she found someone she liked.
Also was there ever a backstory to her being a slut? I don't remember any of that.
People are seriously overrating Amagami.
What made Amagami good was not some super alpha MC or some super deep and realistic romance but that it was honest, unpretentious pandering.
>People are seriously overrating Amagami.
There are legit complaints about Seiren, but this is true too.
Some people are bashing Serien just because it's not exactly the same as Amagami.
I'm by no means dismissing that certain things could have been handled better, but the complaints some people post are simply outlandish. Amagami is based on a dating sim about a somewhat dorky, beta-ish guy - who doesn't even have a face in the game - getting romantically involved with a variety of girls, depending on the player's choices. It was never about some super suave and charming prince who always found the right words and didn't take no for an answer. The MC in Seiren is a bit more passive than Juunichi but not to great extents. There were routes where the girls were clearly in charge and Ayatsuji in particular made Juunichi her bitch like it is rarely seen outside of femdom eromanga. Overall, Seiren has a definitive Amagami atmosphere to it. To which extent it will live up to the original series is yet to be seen, but thus far I can't say I'm disappointed - or rather, I'm happy that something like this is made at all, since most of the time male oriented romance anime these days can't help but introduce battle-harem/isekai or whatever else elements that take away from the romantic meat of the show. This show is almost like a relic from the past in comparison.
This anon get it.
It's interesting how Seiren ended up being produced as I think Amagami is still a beloved franchise in Japan. It's also airing around the time a new batch of Amagami SS BDs are being released. What I see here is that major corporations like Kadokawa are looking to see some successes based on a series's prior popularity. Series like Berserk, Code Geass, and FLCL are also getting new content this year.
Galko-chan is cute and pure, please don#t lump her in with that village bicycle
This really gets at times.
Anon is just used to extreme versions of characters, being in a grey area just invites more shitposters then ever before.
Weaponizing nostalgia is the new shit.
I am enjoying it so far, but so far Tsuneki hasnt be much of a enjoyable heroine for me. And thats ok.
Wait, you weren't supposed to get turned on by those things?
Pissing is disgusting, anon. The others are fine.
We'll still have two other heroines to surprise us.
>reminder that he got turned on from imagining her pissing her self, and from marks left over from a damn tracksuit.
>this is somehow bad
Son, you might be gay
>I think Amagami is still a beloved franchise in Japan.
I see threads on nijiura after all this time. It's similar to how the series is still celebrated on /a/ maybe once per week.
>I am enjoying it so far, but so far Tsuneki hasnt be much of a enjoyable heroine for me.
I really enjoy her kind of character, but I can see why she might not appeal to everyone. Personally, I think it is good to have some divisive heroines. What one Anon doesn't like may appeal even stronger to another Anon, giving him a better viewing experience. If all heroines are agreeable it gets boring. I'm certain the other heroines will cater more to your tastes though, Anon.
What fighting game(s) would she play? If this is supposed to take place somewhere between 2003-2005, I assume Virtua Fighter 4 or Guilty Gear XX? Or would she play something much older?
It's because Amagami is pretty much a cult classic in Japan at this point. It's not some huge success like Bakemonogatari or whatever but it has a very strong following of very dedicated fans who've kept it alive all these years.
This is why even after 8 years there's still fanart and Amagami doujins (H and non-H) being made, as well as fan-made merchandise like garage kits and new manga. Even as late as 2016, Amagami got new dakimakura, new official posters, new radio show episodes, new BD editions and a new compilation OST.
Being pretty much a 90s game made in the late 2000s gave it a special kind of charm that has yet to be replicated by another game. If Seiren had been made straight into a game it would have been the same, but who knows.
Is she really that retarded to suspect the innocuous MC or is the MC just misunderstanding her butthurt?
>tfw almost all Kaoru doujins suck ass
I'm happy to have gotten at least a couple good ones
That is true, in that regard Junichi is the same. But I also think it's true that Junichi has some strong points that Shouichi lacks.
We will see what happens in the other arcs, but Seiren is already doomed to be compared with Amagami.
It was her friend.
>was there ever a backstory to her being a slut?
No. But there were some situations which could be construed to imply that she likes another guy. Currently the show is purposefully trying to evoke some jealous feels in the audience, /a/ always reacts negatively to stuff like that.
>Seiren is already doomed to be compared with Amagami.
Of course. It's just that Anon tends to be too extreme in his views. There's a middle-ground between good and shit and even if Seiren doesn't end up as good as Amagami (and plenty of people out there wouldn't touch Amagami with a ten-foot pole, claiming it's misogynist, objectifying pandering garbage aimed at virgin otaku losers that is far from what realistic romance is like), it might still end up being entertaining. And it's not like there's anything to watch that is similar. If you're looking for something that's comparable to Amagami, Seiren is your best bet. And we haven't gotten anything alike in quite some time. Under that premise I find the criticism too destructive.