So what happened to Amon after this fight?
(2) Spared and fucked off like the cuck he is
(3) Being harvested in lab
And leave all that precious quinque material to be wasted? They call in the CCS (Commission of Cleaning Shit) obviously.
Urie is still alive, but losing his shit hard and babbling like a mad man.
The rest of the chapter is a flashback. It seems Mutsuki's RC levels are at almost 4k and Urie correctly deduces that to have gotten such a high concentration she must be eating humans now.
Shiba says that the point of no return for a quinx is at around 2500 RC level, Mutsuki is well above that and is for all intent and purposes a ghoul.
At the moment she's an observation target, but the moment she displays any sort of weird impulses she'll be upgraded to a suppression, or even elimination target.
Spoilers are out, it turns out the train kaneki is on is being driven by kaiko. Kaiko confronts kaneki and uses an arima qinque, it's arimas flesh that he puts on himself and works like arata armor.
>Saiko rc count = 852
>Amon rc count = 10181
What kind of bs is this?
>Ui heading to the 19th ward
>he will see Hairu clowning around
Everyone but Saiko was passed out right? She probably let him go. There was enough of his kakuja around mixed with flesh to make it look like she turned him into paste. Or if she didn't let him go he actually did turn into paste
She's becoming the One-Eyed Queen herself. Taki, Kuro, and Ayacuck have nothing on her.
Since when did Auraboi become the love child of Torso and Mansuki?
maybe cause ishida is a weirdo that does not seem to want to rest and is constantly drawing for other projects, such as his TG calendars or whatever.
I would assume he doesn't really put as much time into making his manga look good as of lately cause hes trying to keep up with deadlines on other shit
how will Matsuri feel now that Urine is pretty much going to go full ghoul?
Urie is alive, both his eyes have turned into kakugan.
Kaneki meets up with the lad raid team.
Most of the clowns are in fact humans, not ghouls. And Uta appears on the bridge to fight Suzuya's squad.
>Urie kills Donato
>Juuzo kills one of the few good characters (Uta) and Mutsuki gets hamfisted into the fight and humiliates Uta somehow.
Terrible if spoilers are true. I really want someone to put Mutsuki in her place.
What good is his power if he can't control it? When the kakuja manifested he was also fighting it to try and control his own body, Saiko on the other hand just unleashed hers at full blast
What are the chances that she's still alive? I'd like to believe she is, but after Amon's stupid death I'm not so sure.
the series really went to shit when furuta became the big bad, killing the ccg chairman offscreen. is there any reason to get excited about him? he's supposed to be basically arima but implanted with rize's kagune?
>whether he can actually kill him like in V14.
So then, why hasn't Kaneki went full ghoul even when he is Jesus ghoul and he should have more RC cells than Urine?
obviously cause Kaneki is a perfect half ghoul and doesn't matter how high his RC count gets, he will still retain one kakugan.
It's not a matter of RC cells, but disposition. So far only the failed ghouls have turned full ghoul, so it's fair to assume that failed half ghouls become full ghouls.
Remember, half ghouls are superior.
All i want is to see a fight Amon Vs Donato. (in which Amon will not job again) and then Donato's last words put Amon to cry like a bitch.
But you cant ask for nice things to happn in this manga.
It might also involve time as a factor. Kurona only had one kakugan at first, but now has two. Shirazu just broke his frames and died before he could turn into a full ghoul. Mutsuki is a big question mark right now, but with where Ishida's been taking her character, he might be setting her up to be another successful one-eyed ghoul.
Pretty much. He just how out of control Amon's RC level was and prematurely declared him a floppy. Kanou originally only saw Kaneki as a prototype, but Kaneki eventually proved to be his masterpiece that he deems all others floppies in comparison to Kaneki.
Ccg has been fighting clowns for weeks and they didnt even bother to check the body?
Kaneki and his team couldn't tell the human smell when he killed them?
Wow, Kaneki's human kill goes from zero (one) to 100+ within one night.
Cant go killing the #1 fujobux character jewzou. I guess Uta too is a popular character but he isnt some andronymous fuccboi so he lost in that category.
We will see Uta's secret kagune at last, a flashback of his past and then his death.
Super predictable fight. Uta's gonna win because muh tragedy and Juuzou's death got delayed for this. Not only that, but the story's been building up to the collapse of the CCG for quite a bit now. Juuzou has a few death flags on him, and him being Arima's successor will signal the death of the CCG once Furuta's plan is fufilled. Ishida also has to show off more of Uta's combat ability as well as the power of the clowns, and what better way to do this than to have him kill Arima's succesor?
It's laughable to think either of those characters would die. CCG need to "win" sometime for Furuta to seem like a hero so Uta will most likely come in to fight then withdraw later.
Basically, it's going to be
I understand it all now....
I am (you are) THE Tokyo Ghoul.
>MFW I REALISE THE TRUTH
>kanou final battle
>all his creations have been destroyed
>cornered like a rat
>he rips off his shirt
>reveals Arimas face where his heart should be
>Kanou got Arima cells in him
>suddenly Kaneki gets impaled through the eyes by Kanou's IXA kagune fingers
So far he's cucked takizawa (the owl) and kaneki (the one eyed king) through akira, and will obviously cuck the head of ccg and v through rize. And remember how kanous nurse pretty much thought banjou was hot? He also cucked kanou.>>152493889
Literally right in front of ayacuck, banjou doesn't give a fuck.
>tfw when that little cuck used to beat banjou till he coughed up blood
>tfw its banjou who cucks him
he literally watches as the woman he loves runs into another mans arms. and remember that when ayato and touka first met up with hinami like a chapter before, hinami literally paid ayato no attention.
TFW everyone get hugs and shit except kaneki he just keep getting slapped and punched for literally no reason
Kuro is such a qt, i want to see her perfect form!
>Post yfw Uta beats Suzuya and then Mutsuki sneak kills Uta
>How do you want your live action?
>Just fuck my shit up
>Say no more
at least they're using actual suits, and not some shitty made up cosplay from what I see in that pic
also, any more info on that live action?
MOTHER MOTHER I'M SO FUCKED UP!
I hope she doesn't die. I know that her ending up with Kaneki is the longest of longshots, MUCH less likely than KanekiXAkira, but at the very least I want her to live by the end of the story.
So all these fodder clowns are just artificial ghouls made by Kanou, right? Real ghouls wouldn't suicide rush so readily, and we haven't even seen even one of them use a kagune.
Kanou will implant all the kagune types in himself or someone else (Shirazu or Hairu) and kill Kurano.
My guess is some sort of tiny kagune piece put on them to control them, we've already seen kagune used like that as a sound transmitter. As it stands, there would be no reason for human fodder like this to charge at the CCG at all, so there had to be some coercion.
>Amon is dead
>Flashback of Amon when he lived at the orphanage and knew the truth about his foster dad. Was doing something that involved a lot of bloodshed
Yeah, Amon is totally dead
surrounded by 4 ss+ still made it out alive literally the luckiest guy in tg
>Urie turns full ghoul
>CCG consider him a threat
>confesses to Mutsuki
>she shanks him for being a ghoul
mfw urie becomes the ghoul hes destined to be
the is probably the most hype matchup in recent :Re. Hopefully Ishida delivers
Probably the effect of the RC Cells flooding their system when they try to overuse their Kagune.Fucking them up like a drug etc.
They have a certain tolerance threshold and when they go over it they start to crack.
Wow, this is amazingly anticlimatic.
I don't know why, but there's a lot of stuff in Tokyo Ghoul that's had a really anticlimatic payoff. Like, Amon's reappearance, Eto's death, Noro's death, the "Tsukiyama becomes the heir, but wait, Daddy didn't actually die so this was all for nothing" plot have all gone out on wagon wheels.
The only one that was vaguely climatic was Kaneki versus Arima, and that was dragged out for so long - and with so much bullshit - it lost any gravitas it might have had.
I'm still pissed about the Houji versus Tatara thing, and how Owl (forgot his name again) is now one of the good guys apparently just by 'getting over' the torture and murder.
Owl didn't really "get over" anything. He's salty as fuck about his whole situation.
But his waifu is in a coma and his former mentor gave up his life to save him. He's got better things to do than wallow in angst.
That was really dumb, because he honestly should have died. Kurona should be dead, too. Like, both of those people are mass-murdering maniacs who should've been put down. And yet Kaneki's perfectly fine having them in 'his team'? It's like when Nishiki tried to eat him and Hide, and Kaneki was like "No mang, we all cool, let me help you save your girlfriend" instead of "Fuck you shitheel, I hope Tsukiyama gets you too."
Actually, come to think of it, nearly all of Kaneki's best buddies are horrible murderers. Like, Tsukiyama's now this tragic hero where he previously ran an Eyes Wide Shut-style murder club.
Are we just supposed to sort of ignore all that shit? Also, why the hell didn't they kill the fuck out of Furuta when they had the chance? He outright stated he was the mastermind!
Because none of these people are "good guys" mane.
Kaneki is a masochist sociopath with a hard Oedipus complex. He has no real concept of the value of life, and only refrains from killing humans because it would hurt his plans. He doesn't really care who did what before, because none of that ever mattered to him in the first place. As long as they can be useful to him anything goes.
Until recently anyway.
Besides, that whole dogma that "killing ghouls is okay no matter how much you do it" thing has always irked me. If ghouls had the same taboos humans did Kaneki would be one of the most horrific psychopaths of all time. Horror stories would be passed down about this guy for generations. He's a mass murdering cannibal even in the context of the story for fucks sake.
The Urie breaking frames foreshadowing was really fucking bad this time.
RE: writing is really going to shit.
Also what happened with that Tsukiyama can become kakuja plot point?
Dude, the two species are incompatible. If humans are sheep and ghouls are wolves, are there 'good' wolves? Of course not, all wolves prey on sheep.
Where are the 'good' ghouls, anyway? Even the ones who are currently nice have horrible and violent pasts.
Even with frames breaking, getting two kakugan is random as fuck. Shirazu and Mutsuki never got that. I've heard he's a failure but it's never stated in the chapter.
When a kakuhou is planted only on one side, they normally only get one kakugan.
In the first part they where talking about ghouls who never killed anyone and where innocent (Hinamis mom for instance). Also, take notice that not all ghouls are as strong as our main characters. Most of them can't even "unleash" their kagune.
He will go berserk on Ui
She was still a man-eating monster. She left Antieku because she didn't want to rely on Owner's kindness, remember? And she said she'd manage 'somehow', which meant she'd have to hunt and kill people for her daughter.
Like, you'd just be an ordinary guy who sees a ara-ara MILF who's dropped all her groceries, so you pick them up and help her. Then since she's giving you the eye, you offer to take them up to her apartment, possibly with an eye to getting her in bed.
And the moment you step into the room - once it's all quiet - she cuts you in half with her kagune, and calls Hinami-chan over to eat you while you're still warm and twitching. She might even be regretful about this, but she has to feed her daughter.
It ain't not comfort to you, because you just walked into a guro-hard vore manga.
They're going to have to lure people in to kill them somehow. Also, Hinami's mom explicitly couldn't settle for the free meals Antieku was handing out, which means she's going to have to take matters into her own hands.
Rise did exactly that, remember? She used her feminity to lure men where they'd be helpless and kill them. The wine-drinker also did that.
He's actually right.
Urie is probably considered a failure now.
The point is that there are innocent ghouls.
Hinamis mom probably decided to leave, because her husband got killed and she needed to learn how to fight, so she can protect Hinami.
Did you miss me, sweet hearts~?
Clown to the right of me!
Jokers to the left!
People who need a reason to do things are trash! I'll do whatever I want. Besides, I have this precious life, so why not make the most of it?
Everybody knows that Ishida won't kill anyone. I don't know why he even bothers. Uta will most likely job though; only powerlevelfags have been hyping his shit up; even though Ishida's only stated that he was Yomo-tier in TG story. Ishida will make us believe Uta might win firstly, but then Jewzou is going to overpower him so hard anyways. Later; something will happen and interrump this fight and that's it. Uta runs away and Jewzou says he's tough.
I'm more interested why RC suppressants were relocated. Have CCG scientists gotten a new toy recently and were playing with him however they needed RC suppressants every time because this toy couldn't be tamed
is that you Amon?
Didn't know that Furuta was going to appear in TG Live Action.
Arima vs Kaneki 2.0 was one of the worst cheesy melodramas in the entire TG franchise. It wasn't even a fight. The Kirishima stronk plot armor, Arima wankfest and Rueshima clusterfuck were just the icing on the cake.
Seemed that Batman was dismembering humans like food for his priest dad Donato
he was raped when he was a kid
L-Lets talk this over.
Why is Furuta ALWAYS one step ahead of everyone?
>Urine was always doing his best and is a total failure now
Urie is the new Amon in re: confirmed
>Fugly trap isn't because she's muh Kaneki's parallel itself and is becoming the almighty One-Eyed
When will Ishida stop being a shit writer?
Quinx are meant to be inbetween humans and half-ghouls, similar to half humans. That's how they're able to eat human food still. Going full ghoul is bs.
Human < Half-Human < Quinx < Half-Ghoul < Ghoul
HE'S THE TOKYO GHOUL
Suzuya will kill the trap
Okay, I will help you. Look at the size of Saiko kagune then rc lvl.
>RC-Count only determines size of kagune
>Look at the size of Saiko kagune then rc lvl
Now compare it with anyone else.
Yeah, I believe Eto even stated it, back when she was beating down Kanae, that Rc cell count counts towards how large one can form their kagune?
However, she also said that the size is determined by quality as well. Perhaps that may just mean that, true to her name, Saiko's Rc cells are the best among all the Quinx.
Why would he be a floppy?
Floppy is what Kanou uses to refer to those who he, specifically, thinks of as failures. There wasn't anything wrong with Kuro or Shiro; they just weren't as great as he wanted them to be, so he labeled them as failures.
I get that once they reached a certain threshold they would essentially become half-ghouls (which, to my understanding, is all the Qs truly are, based on Kanou's dialogue after dissecting sharkboy), but the dual kakugan thing just seems out of left-field. I thought Kuro/Shiro were going to be a one-off case.
Well, this might be the explanation?
If artificial half-ghouls because full ghouls once their Rc levels rise high enough (though, when Kurona and Shiro's Rc levels were shown, they were rather high; around the 4000 range, I think? Was that not high enough to be considered past the threshold? This was back when Kanou was bringing up the Floppies and Seidou, and how Kaneki was a "growing perfection"), then the mystery has switched from "why do they have 2 kakugans now" to "why does Kaneki only have 1".
That would leave far too many characters unaccounted for. We never got a proper RC count for Kaneki (just Haise, who was confirmed to be suppressing his RC-cell count after the auction arc, thus the hair color changes), but its safe to assume he's high up there. Then you add in A-Owl, T-Owl, and Eto, and it starts slipping. My best guess would be it has something to do with the Qs procedure itself, as Kanou stated that the Quinque steel acted as a limiter preventing the types of failures seen in part 1, vs whatever shenanigans he used to get Shiro, Kuro, Amon, and Takizawa stable.
He did the same thing with Shiro and Kuro as he did with all his other experiments, though? For Kaneki, Shiro, and Kuro, the test was done based on blood type, since he thought that might be related to the rejection/acceptance of the kakuhou. He didn't do anything special beyond that. You don't add too many variables when you're testing something.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I meant to distinguish between Kanou's methods in part 1, vs his new methodology since dissecting Sharkboy (making Qs). But yes, you're right, he used the same methods on all introduced so far. The only outlier in my mind is Kuro, since she gained her second kakugan after absorbing Shiro. As Kanou himself said, things like blood-type and the like were non-factors in terms of successful experiments with his prior methods, whereas the Q's method allows a much wider number of success cases. Whether that's a factor is up for debate (I really don't know why I'm expecting some type of logic to apply here).
Dude even Shiba wanted to mantain Mutsuki RC count in secret from Urie, is obvious that she is a full Half-ghoul now..
>mfw Kaneki has killed multiple humans now
Because Urie and Kurona are floppies, they weren't successful half-ghouls and instead just became full fledged ghouls when their rc levels jumped. Mutsuki and Kaneki are successful half-ghouls since they still only manifested a single kakugan when their rc levels jumped.
So what exactly is the difference, really? For all intents and purposes a fake half ghoul is just a ghoul. The only half ghoul we know of that could eat human food is Eto, and that information is tenuous at best.
Shiba knows about her abnormal rc count. If anything it's just a red herring and Mutsuki isn't actual killing humans but the blood Saiko smelled on her is probably that flesh soup they gave to Haise and cochlea prisoners and Shiba's been conscripting them to her.
Yes thats what Im saying, Urie is a floppy, and Mutsuki is a sucessful like Kaneki & Takizawa, the thing that bothers me is that Amon have only one Kakuhou activated aswell, which mean that he wasnt Floppy at all? or maybe there are different types of floppy
>they are now full on fangs
I honestly feel like the mask was inspired by either hannibal lector or those hannya mask.
also this may have dissapointed a lot of people as usuall but I actually liked it.
I couldn't really tell what donato kagune was but donato is really loving his cannibal pope character since his kagune looks like a bunch of crosses together.
>kurona looking ponytail
>kaneki changing his hair again
but I thought kaneki was supposed to be some type of genius?
which is why he was able to overcome his label as failure being able to rival(if not surpass) arima and eto
so do they just not know who sasaki was before he became sasaki? or this is just urie perception of kaneki not being smart?
A-Owls RC cell count is further up in the thread above 10k. RC cell count has nothing to do with it. Further, Urie, as a Q, should still be well below 10k, even with his frames fully released. Hell, as someone else even mentioned, the actual count may very well be irrelevant beyond determining the size of a kagune per Eto's little chat back in the Tsukiyama arc
Well, let's not be hasty. The Owl kakuhou came from Yoshimura, after all. His regenerative ability might simply not have been enough to properly regenerate an entire limb without any defects.
And yeah. Quantity and quality of Rc cells determine the size of the kagune, as per Eto's explanation here
>. the ones who are in the main office cant talk they only could spell nosense "kekeke kakaka"
What? "Nonsense?" That was only deranged laughter, typical of the Clowns. In fact, one of them explicitly said "Nico..." in the background of the crazed Aura panel. They're clearly being controlled somehow.
And they're clearly not only human but Qs most definitely since they were ripping off arms off Investigators left and right.
What a find complete bs is why only now do they fuckin realize it? The hundreds of bodies from the previous battles didn't make it obvious enough?
They had plenty of time inbetween to think clearly. The bodies are right there lying around all over the place.
They didn't even question how they got such a large force when they were previously stated to be rare.
Unless there were ghouls mixed in with the humans, then it's a little better but not much.
He didn't realize it in the previous fight though which is pretty retarded.
they probably had a lot more q's for resources mixed in cause you can see in this page there's a lot more pronunciation of screaming than the muffled ones we've been seeing.
of course this plan seems retarded since you're just mindlessly throwing away resources, they may not be strong doesn't mean they're useless, pretty sure there could have been better use for them than cannon fodder.
How else would they reproduce? But yes, they can, and in the case of Kaneki, its hard to say. Might be sterile, might end up with a one-eye, ghoul, or mixed blood (like 0 squad). RC-Cell magic and all.
>And they're clearly not only human but Qs most definitely since they were ripping off arms off Investigators left and right.
I agree it makes the most sense for them to be Kanou's brainwashed Qs who inexplicably cannot disobey his orders. But these "Clowns" were so weak, the Suzuya Squad noticed it rather quickly. If they were Qs like Okahira, there is no way the Suzuya Squad could have mowed them down so easily. The unmasked "Clown" did not even have a single kakugan. What gives? Are they not Qs, but humans?
>What a find complete bs is why only now do they fuckin realize it? The hundreds of bodies from the previous battles didn't make it obvious enough.
Because none of those Clowns used a kagune, it's difficult to say whether or not they were mind controller humans, Kanou's Qs, or ghouls. Realistically, they would have noticed if they were human at that time. You have to suspend disbelief otherwise. So I'm banking the first wave were ghouls or Qs (Kanou's new procedure gradually acclimates the kakuhou to the host body, so an autopsy may reveal they are indistinguishable from real ghouls.) Either way, it's shit writing if they were human at that time. No way around it.
The current waves on the otherhand, at least at the branch office, are non ghoul as for now.
MS didn't translate it. I'm not at the level where I can read Ishida's scrawled kanji at the end, but the katakana clearly reads "二コ" on the Aura panel. You can see it in Jaimini's translation, though.
So which one is more likely?
A) Amon was living in terror of Donato after he found out he was a ghoul and was forced into "helping" him
B) Amon was shocked at first but got over it and was complicit because he loved his father
The average ghoul is anywhere between 1000-8000 and sasaki was quoted in the beginning of Re to be around 2800 (chapter 2) but he's doped up on suppressants, while the Q's were at like 600-700 and Urie at 900 (1900 since)
Ishida probably dropped the RC count as a measure of strength now and more as a measure of humanity left for the Q's. As the Q's are clearly way stronger than your average ghoul.
Yeah, definitely A.
And while it seems Donato actually did still continue to care for Amon, going by how he told Amon when the latter found out he was a ghoul that it was time for them to stop pretending, I'm guessing Donato willfully severed their relationship to make it easier for Amon to distance himself from him.
I'm not sure. Given that Amon was hiding and was afraid of the CCG, I can see it being a mix but leaning more towards B. He was more than likely re-educated for 6 years in the academy
No problem, now im going to give my point of view of all this situation. First of all, every raid on every ward are or ghouls or Kanou quinx, except the ones on the Main office, you can simply tell this because every clown on every ward can talk, but this ones are all human with stitches on their mouth, well you're going to wonder, why?, I think Furuta know that when Suzuya Squad realizes that they are just human, they'll stop killing them, However those are clearly kidnapped and tortured human, they all also can talk or see because of the masks, probably the main Clowns (uta, nico, donato) gave them an order: "You run, or you'll die", and thats what they are doing, Furuta knows that once Suzuya Squad notice that they are all humans, they can have a clear pass throught the Main office, What does Furuta wants with this? with all the caos inside the main office, he can easily kill Matsuri, and then when all this is over he can say "Oh, the OEK clowns killed him" now the only last thing he needs to do to fulfill his plan is to kill Suzuya and his squad (Thats why Uta is going to fight agaisnt Suzuya) because he may realize that all of this is a plot of Furuta, so yea, Suzuya squad may die or they are going to desert fro mCCG and Matsuri may also die forsure
I mean, Donato didn't seem especially sympathetic towards Amon after he learned the truth. And from what I can tell, it seems like Amon was kept in a room with the corpses? Donato may have even ordered him to stay in that room, you know, to keep him safe from harm as it seems like he was definitely expecting a battle to occur.
Does Donato seem like the type of guy that force his son to help him kill his preys?
Donato cares a lot about Amon, to me Donato just stopped playing the harmless good guy and just told Amon to stay quiet while giving him retard speeches.
I want Ishida to give us more info on this. Donato is an absolute monster but he does love Amon as a son.
We know Amon loved Donato as a father before he found out the truth and at the end of the original run, Amon still had feelings for him. In the in between time, all we have is Amon hiding in fear dressed in surgery gear with a mask and gloves on too next to a bloody bed roll. It's not really clear what the hell is going on there.
>Does Donato seem like the type of guy that force his son to help him kill his preys?
Maybe? It depends on how twisted Donato's love is. There's a reason Amon was decked out in latex gloves, a mask, and scrubs.
Or it could have also been a way to keep Amon quiet about Donato. If Amon is helping kill humans, he's not about to go running to the cops. Amon did have a very strong reaction to Kaneki's "Don't make me a killer"
>ishidas ccg fetish
But CCG is getting raped, Hoji and Akira got BTFO by Takizawa, Mmmboi and Milf got BFTO by Kaneki. At worst Uta and Suzuya are going to get heavily injured and the fight will end in a match.
Uta is a one eyed ghoul, that's why he put ink in his eyes,so people don't know when his kakugan is activated,that's the real leader of clowns for you
>His regenerative ability might simply not have been enough to properly regenerate an entire limb without any defects.
What are you talking about? Arima took both arms from Kuzen when they fought and he regenerated them just fine.
Amon having Kuzen's kakuhou doesn't mean Amon has his RC-cells. A ghoul takes in new RC-cells regularly and an OEG additionally produces some in their own body.
>I think Amon was a floppy due to his arm not regenerating properly
No, Kanou labelled him as a floppy because his RC-count rose too fast too high, within a few weeks after the operation it was over 10000.
>,that's the real leader of clowns for you
Uta said he doesn't like to be in charge of things, so it's unlikely it's him.
But Donato is even more less likely to be the Clown's leader since Donato was at least for 18 years in Cochlea, seeing how Amon was 12 when the CCG arrested him.
The Clowns were annihilated shortly after they gained influence and that was 11 years ago.