Discuss the latest manga chapter here.
>>152466515
AAAAAAAH I'M SORRY BLACK SAMA I PROMISE I WON'T BOTHER YOU AGAIN!!!
Have full HQ scans been released?
Wow we reached the point where we need different threads. Might as well get our own board
>>152466562
The Korean scans are out.
http://wasabisyrup.com/archives/fhnqp4EJ8co
>>152466562
https://www.db-z.com/dragon-ball-super-chapitre-20/
>>152466545
P-please be gentle Blacksama. You're being so rough. O-onegai.
>>152466591
It's sad that the samefags arguing resulted in this happening.
>>152466515
If this post gets 10 (You)'s I will color this page
it will take me over an hour to do it but the outcome will be perfect
i did this before trust me
>>152466640
I don't trust you senpai
>>152466515
It was pretty cool how Trunks and Mai bought time so Goku and Vegeta could escape.
Why'd the last thread get nuked?
>>152466737
Because it became pure cancer.
>>152466640
I trust you, anon!
>>152466640
We believe in you anon.
> anime thread is full of mangafag shitposts
> manga thread is actually decent
Can you guys take all the autistic shitposters away from the anime thread?
>>152466640
Please do it anon.
>>152466605
thank (you)
>>152466640
i wish (you) good luck
why stop at one page tho?
>>152466640
Please do
Oh man, this chapter was extremely brutal.
A very good chapter. Mai is very brave, and Black and Zamasu immediately finding her after tracing even the slightest ki must have been terrifying.
Dead thread.
>>152466494
>>152466494
>>152466494
>>152466494
Here's the actual relevant one.
Could you mangafags PLEASE stay in your own thread? Thanks.
>>152466735
It's not just Goku pretty much all the characters are smarter and more competent in the manga.
>>152466640
I trust you anon.
>>152467110
I absolutely loved how Toyo managed to rid of the senzu beans without Goku being an absolute retard.
>>152466640
Thanks man, lets see what you can do..
>>152466735
>based escape in the manga
>while anime does...
>>152466640
Do it anon.
>>152466640
DO IT
>anime thread is active with a riveting back-and-forth debate
>manga thread is dead
I think I accept the manga is promotional material, now.
>>152466494
>>152466494
I'm going to the REAL Dragon ball Super thread.
Sorry lads, I just can't live this farce anymore.
TDC should have full translations soon.
>>152467376
>anime thread is active with a riveting back-and-forth debate
it's one sided with just Toeishills having their last chance at trolling before Feb 5th.
>>152466515
What color is that?
>>152466979
So many great panels in this chapter. Damn I wish this manga was weekly.
Can we talk about how based he was in this chapter?
>>152467451
forgot pic
>>152466640
DO IT
>>152467457
> SSJ2 have the advantage against SSB Vegeta
> Trunks manages to surprise SSR Black
Seems like Gary Stu Trunks when the plot needs it is as much of a thing in the manga.
>>152467412
>M-MUH FEB 5TH
HAHA
>>152467500
Granted it was a surprise attack, but I still like how Black reminded Trunks to stay in his lane when he implanted his face into the ground.
Question is, what will Trunks do until Goku and Vegeta return?
>>152467376
You are baiting or just too obvious?
Guess that settles it, no SSRage (... yet).
I never liked that transformation anyways.
>>152466640
>it will take me over an hour to do it but the outcome will be perfect
inb4 Crayola.
>>152467601
He could still get it in another chapter though.
>>152467568
Don't reply to bait.
>>152467624
>He could still get it in another chapter though.
Probably, but I wouldn't be mad if it didn't happen. I didn't like how it was never properly explained, and it even took awhile for them to release a name.
I'm confused. Did Vegeta Super Saiyan Blue fight SS Black Goku and was pretty even?
>>152467601
>Guess that settles it, no SSRage
Good, it's a shit asspull form.
>Pic related
MY DICK
>>152467694
Yeah. Black turning SSR was mainly for spite like in the anime.
>>152466640
>>152467659
If it happens in the manga, I'm fairly certain there will be an explanation. Toyotaro likes to explain everything.
>>152467730
That honestly makes no fucking sense. How does Black dodge an attack by someone 4 transformations above him?
>>152467730
My autism. I forgot pic related.
>>152467755
How the fuck is Zamasu fighting SSB?
That means he would have gave Beerus a hard time. Shit doesn't make sense. I get why he doesn't die since he's immortal but no way should he be able to exchange speed and punches
>>152467753
It makes no fucking sense. But Toyo attempted to make sense out of it based from Toriyama's draft of Black which said he has Super Saiyan before Rose. Zamasu healed him twice, so I guess that explains itnot really.
>>152467788
SSB Goku quickly overwhelmed Zamasu that's why Goku descends back into SS after he knocks him down on the ground and dodges all the objects Zamasu throws at him.
Goku never fought Zamasu before, so he wrongfully assumed that Zamasu was on Black level since they're the same person.
>>152467788
>but no way should he be able to exchange speed and punches
He doesn't, he's using Shin's paralysis technique to pin him down just like Chaotsu.
>>152467827
Goku was dodging the attacks in Blue form also Zamasu dodged an SSB attack which makes no sense.
>>152467868
That makes sense when I think about it. Goku downgraded back down to Super Saiyan after getting overconfident and Zamasu was able to restrain him. Shin was able to restrain Dabra (who was SS2 tier).
>>152467889
>>152467868
Zamasu was dodging the attacks from Goku Blue****
>>152467500
Surprise attack, dude. Even Goten surprised Buu one time. As soon Black knows Trunks is there he have the upper yard
>>152467889
I don't see the problem? Goku effortlessly dodged all of Zamasu's slice attempts and one-shot him to the ground. Zamasu dodging one hit from SSB doesn't mean he's on par or anything.
>>152467939
>Zamasu dodging one hit from SSB doesn't mean he's on par or anything.
Uh clearly that means he can handle the speed. He shouldn't have been able to dodge that at ALL. That's like Kid Goku dodging an attack made by Cell.
>>152467973
It's not like we've never seen things like this in the original manga before; characters barely managing to dodge an attack from an obviously stronger opponent only to be immediately overwhelmed from the next. It's not a big deal.
>>152467999
Any examples?
>>152467973
>He shouldn't have been able to dodge that at ALL.
And how would you know that?
>That's like Kid Goku dodging an attack made by Cell
No, not at all.
You fucking autists seriously can't comprehend/follow a simple fight scene?
>>152467973
It was never established that Zamasu is only "SSJ2 tier" in the manga so him being competent is excusable.
>>152468020
>And how would you know that?
Judging by his weak attacks, he's not strong at all. Only immortal.
>>152468020
>No, not at all.
Yes because there's an immense power gap.
>>152468013
>Freeza dodging an attack from Future Trunks (an incredibly stronger opponent) only to end up getting sliced up soon after.
>Base Goku fighting against Freeza (again, who was holding back a lot) and dodging his attacks only to be overwhelmed later on in the fight.
>>152468049
>Yes because there's an immense power gap.
This Zamasu is 17 years from the future, you could argue he had years of training. He was also never depicted as a weakling.
>>152468049
>Judging by his weak attacks, he's not strong at all
You don't know how strong Manga Future Zamasu is, your baseless speculation means nothing.
>Yes because there's an immense power gap.
Again, you don't know how strong Manga Future Zamasu is.
>>152467753
Having a base form several times stronger
>>152468080
Samefag: Those are two examples from the manga. I could keep going, if you'd like.
>>152468080
but those power gaps aren't nearly as wide as Zamasu and SSB
>>152468088
Not him, but we could argue that Future Zamasu in the manga has about the same level of strength as Present Zamasu shown in the anime. Present Zamasu fought against SS2 Goku and was overwhelmed, but yet Goku was impressed and praised his skill. Goku went back to SS and still knocked down Future Zamasu in the manga.
>>152468148
Anime Zamasu vs SSB Goku is a million times more fucked up, just enjoy the ride.
>>152468148
Goku was at best 20x weaker than suppressed Frieza before going SSJ
He had to use Kaioken constantly just to keep up.
When I accepted that the manga was secondary, and mostly irrelevant, I enjoyed it MUCH more.
>>152468148
It is, actually. Freeza was leagues above Base Goku before Goku hit Freeza with the Genkidama and went Super Saiyan.
>>152468186
I miss when Dragon Ball had SOME logic to it.
>>152468189
Again, it still isn't nearly as wide.
>>152468093
This, lots of people in this fanbase are retarded.
Super Saiyans transformations aren't a set powerlevel, there are multipliers of the users base.
Meaning just because Goku and Goten are both Super Saiyans doesn't mean they're at the same level of strength.
Black has a SS3 Goku tier base mode so him fighting on par with SSB Vegeta isn't strange.
>>152468223
So how is SSR not killing SSB in one hit?
>>152468210
Shut up and back to your thread, toeishill.
>>152468174
>but we could argue that Future Zamasu in the manga has about the same level of strength as Present Zamasu shown in the anime
No you can't that's from the anime, we're talking about the manga. They are various characters who have different power levels between the anime and manga.
>>152468223
Also wasn't SSJ not kicking SSJ Black Goku's ass?
That means base vegeta = ssj3 goku
>>152468258
What kind of fight would that be? A sensible one, sure, but that would be completely forgetting who Black is. He's a sadist, Black was humiliated by Vegeta so it's not hard to believe he would want to make Vegeta suffer.
>>152468210
go back to your dead troll thread.
>>152468258
He basically did here >>152467478
>>152468274
Even so, if Goku had to go back down to SS and not even to SS2, that tells us something as the readers.
>>152468283
Black was suppressing his power so he can get beaten up for the Zenkai.
>>152468258
I don't think Black multipliers are so big as Goku's, maybe he's not skilled enough so his multipliers are really tiny, but his base still strong enough? Or maybe all multipliers are equal except SSR's one, because he's already a god so his room of improvement is lesser
>>152468343
What a fucking madman
>>152467457
His expressions were on point in this chapter.
>>152468273
>>152468305
Lads just stop crying.
>>152467457
So fucking smug.
>>152468343
makes sense. that what vegeta did to get krillin to almost kill him.
>>152468404
Psychotic would be the best way to describe it.
A complete contrast to Future Zamasu which I love.
>>152466515
FULL TRANSLATIONS WEN?!
>>152467457
Not as good as the anime.
Jesus when's the manga finna pick up
>>152467415
Goku says it's pink (ピンク) in the Japanese version.
>>152468460
I hope Toyo does some official coloring in the future with the manga.
>>152467415
>>152468460
Yeah Goku calls it pink and Zamasu theorizes that a Kai going SSGSS makes it go Magenta "Beni-iro" ”紅色”
>>152466801
I love his happy face here.
I'm not even gay but god damn Black in this chapter was sexy as hell with his expression.
Majestic-looking Black is favorite Black.
>>152468511
Me too, that's why I cleaned it from the panel
>>152468560
To think an already amazing Goku Black is even better in the manga.
>>152468428
Yeah, I love the contrast. You have the more cultivated Future Zamasu and Present Zamasu (Black) influenced by Saiyan cells, becoming obsessed with power and battle.
>>152468560
Agreed, this is a nice perspective of him.
>>152468560
>>152468607
I could imagine some deranged unsettling OST playing if that seen were to be animated.
>>152468663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5FeKFKLvwA
>>152468508
>regular SSGSS's hair is cyan
>characters are simple and just call it "blue"
>Kaio SSGSS's hair is magenta
>characters are simple and just call it "pink"
>based Zamasu choose call it "Rosé"
I love this guy
Just you guys know he didn't turn SSJ2 or anything he transformed from SSJ to Rose
>>152468663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFXLzL3mVJY
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjQFqpLM-YE
>>152468662
Imagine him in a waterfall with that posture.
BASED
>>152468721
>Dat ost
The only good thing about the anime.
>>152468721
Could definitely see the first one playing when he transforms into Rose. It fits that panel so damn well, fuck.
Second one I see when he's beating Vegeta down without mercy.
>>152468750
Voice acting is good too.
Will we see him in the manga, /a/?
If so, how would you like it to be handled?
>>152468750
>The only good thing about the anime.
You forget video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQu3-dt_Fwk
>>152468788
Ki blade battle!!
>>152468750
>>152468779
This. Nozawa's performance as Black and Miki's performance as Zamasu are what made the Black arc enjoyable.
>>152468812
YES! This was something I wanted in the anime but we only ever saw Vegetto use the Spirit Sword to pierce Zamasu once.
>>152468722
too sexy for my heart
>>152468818
True.
The voice acting and the OST are the only good things about the anime.
What a shame, I wish we could go back in time and have the Black arc be handled by the original animators of DBZ.
>>152466515
2017 is the year of Black.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDIUzbEcbJA
>>152468788
Well, since Mafuba happened I suppose everything is possible.
>>152468514
>I'm not even gay
Yes you are, now accept Black in your heart
Tickle me this. If Zamasu was so smart why didn't he just WISH for every mortal to be dead?
>>152468560
>>152468662
>Due to the intense training and calm mind needed to acquire it, this form exceedingly surpasses its predecessor Super Saiyan God,
>calm mind
Makes sense since Super Saiyan Rose is Black's version of Super Saiyan Blue.
>>152468927
He wanted to make the ningens suffer by himself rather than just doing the quick job.
>>152468916
The Mafuba happening was more than likely apart of Toriyama's outline at this point.
I could see it being something like this:
>Goku and Vegeta are beaten by Black and Zamasu
>Mafuba is suggested
>Goku and Vegeta return to the future
>Black and Zamasu fuse
>Goku and Vegeta fuse in retaliation
>>152468927
He's a sado-masochist and wanted to get his hands dirty.
Reminder to check out Toyotaro on IG: https://www.instagram.com/toyotaro_vjump/
>>152468722
T-That would be pretty hot anon.
>>152468891
Me too. And I wish it was the manga version animated.
>>152468990
Been following him since 134 followers, good to see he's got like 530 now.
>>152468788
>>152468916
It was always obvious that Vegeto was part of Toriyama's outline since the whole "eat too much energy to fusion lasted less" thing came up - while the anime team tries to ignore SSB eating energy since it's supposed to be the most stable ki controller form according to them. This likely means it came from Toriyama's outline.
>>152469011
whoops he's up to 570 now
I'd fucking love it if Goku and Vegeta returned to the future with these outfits - representing as the students of Whis up against these self-proclaimed "gods."
>>152468998
man I really love how Trunks and Trunks are like brother in the manga
>>152468998
>Trunks cucking himself
>>152468927
>top middle panel
Manga Zamasu is clearly on a power trip
>>152469024
Yeah. Merged Zamasu was designed by Toriyama as well, so we can assume that he always intended to have a fusion go up against THAT fusion. Seems right.
>>152469042
I love it when he calls him Oniichan or Big Bro
>I don't have a PS4 so I can't play with Black in any DB game
Hurts
>>152469118
I managed to snatch the Day One Edition of Xenoverse which includes Black, I'm just waiting on the Rose DLC.
Others have to wait for that certain DLC that contains Rose in order to even use Black at all.
>>152468788
I would rather have Merged Trunks.
>>152469143
>>152469042
>>152469081
Yeah, same.
I really wish the anime showed more interaction between the two, but instead we got Gohan...
Translated Viz chapters for read here:
https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super
But... they call Zamasu "Zamas"
>>152469201
>But... they call Zamasu "Zamas"
Dumb fucking ningens.
>>152469136
But SSR Black is a different character, right? Just like SSB Goku and Vegeta.
I really hate that shit, why we can't just use his base form and go SSGSS as every other character do with its respective transformation? Well, excepting SS teen Gohan (which is stupid too)
>>152469168
Has Mai already lost her virginity in her lifetime?
Is Trunks getting sloppy seconds?
>>152469201
>https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super
Viz has a page for free chapters, where you can find Dragon ball super official translation . Would be nice to see someone rip it.
>>152469248
Fucking this.
They have Base RoF Goku and SSB Goku as two completely different characters. I'd rather use RoF Goku and have him transform into SSB. The same goes for Vegeta. I honestly hope it's not like this with Rose Black.
>>152469143
MATA KISAMA KA EKKUSU TORANKUSU
>>152469254
Judging by how she acts in pic related, no.
>>152469254
No she's definitely pure.
>>152469254
No, she and the rest of the Pilaf gang are turbo virgins.
>>152469254
>Mai
>lose her virginity
Haha no
I wonder what Mai's initial reaction was at seeing the boy who gave her gang troubles in the past now grown up and destroying humanity.
>>152469295
Also, you only can transform once in XV, but there's no limit in XV2 right? Would be perfect let base Goku and base Vegeta go SS or SSB in their RoF outfits
Love this
>>152469143
This, if Trunks is going to deal the last(or second to last) blow then we might as well have this over Vegito.
>>152469401
Is Mai best girl in Dragon Ball history?
She and Bulma have the most fucking balls. You can argue Chichi too since she walked up to Boo, slapped him, and cussed him out before turning into an egg and dying.
>>152466735
>>152467110
>>152469401
>It's not just Goku pretty much all the characters are smarter and more competent in the manga
Also Trunks blocking Black's sword with his scabbard.
>>152469393
I'd like to be able to go Blue with their normal outfits too.
>>152469474
>>152469438
Toriyama always made his women fucking hardcore even when they aren't the fighting type.
>Never forget when Lunch beat down Red Ribbon soldiers in the original manga
>>152469438
They all have balls of steel. It's no wonder Goku/Vegeta/Trunks like them so much.
>>152469520
>even when they aren't the fighting type.
Aren't most DB women like that, though?
Excluding 18.
>>152469537
That's what made THIS scene fucking hilarious.
I'm sure Trunks feels the same way about Mai.
>>152469074
is Manga Zamasu talking really really fast?
>>152469586
You mean Gowasu? No he just lecturing his student.
>>152469583
>All Saiyan women were strong
Makes Gine a special case, then.
>Toriyama: Gine had a gentle personality and wasn’t cut out as a warrior, being repeatedly saved from danger by Bardock. At that time, a special emotion was born between them. Normally, Saiyans don’t have much of a notion of romance or marriage, and apart from the royal family of Vegeta, they aren’t particular about blood-relationships.
>>152469670
B A S E D L U N C H
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>>152469670
Holy shit
>>152469642
I might be one of the very few who liked Gine.
>>152469642
Yeah, Toriyama points how Bardock and Gire are a special case. Same about Vegeta's current family man role
>>152469670
>this panel
>>152469748
Gine saved Minus for me
I know Gohan and Gine would've had a close relationship since they were so similar in personality.
>>152469779
Same. I didn't care for Minus but liked the character of Gine. Bardock being the reason for Goku's departure was a nice touch too, though I still preferred the OVA.
>>152469825
Gine would've definitely been that supportive grandmother.
Oh God the waifufags were mangafags aswell, goddammit.
>>152469730
>>152469379
>pic
That first panel is great, really shows how desperate Trunks was when he thought Mai was killed.
>manga escape >>152469401
>Trunks use Taiyo-Ken and they use the sewer to hide themselves. They know even if they hide his ki, Black can feel Mai's, so they prepare a trick, make Mai pretend they four are running away together and as soon Black and Zamasu appears, Trunks make his surprise attack. Detecting Trunks' ki, Goku, who is already in the time machine with Vegeta, knows here's their last chance to escape so use the machine and go back to the past
>anime escape >>152467199
Humans use FUCKING gas and Black and Zamasu runs like bitches. Mai puts Goku and Vegeta in the time machine and Black can't detect their ki because reasons
How Toyo writting can be so good and Toei's so shitty?
>>152469970
Trunks' shocked expression brought the feels.
I love Jaco
I love canon Bardock
I love Gine
I love DB Minus
I love "modern" Toriyama
One of my favorite panels.
I fucking LOVE how Future Trunks looks in the manga.
be honest guys
this chapter is manga > anime
>>152470189
Yes, won't deny it.
This chapter was pretty good.
I was worried Toyotaro was going to rush things and skip SSR form because of what they said about the manga being ahead of the anime, but looks like there was no reason to worry.
>yfw we see Xicor in the Multiverse tournament
>>152470189
Of course.
>>152466640
(you)
>>152469730
What I wouldn't give to pound that fucking ass into oblivion.
>>152470189
>this chapter is manga > anime
Water is wet.
>>152470237
>Gets destroyed by Krilin and 18
>>152470151
The anime made him look ugly, but the manga really does the best boy justice.
>>152470151
>>152470303
>>152466735
Zamasu beat Goku 1v1 in the manga.
>>152470069
>"N-NANI!?"
>>152469555
Videl was a legit fighter before she grew out of her rebellious stage.
>Managed to distract Black and Zamasu long enough for Goku and Vegeta to escape
>Has a grin on his face as he sees them vanish
Fucking best.
How will he feel when the Mafuba doesn't even work and he did all that for nothing?
>>152470303
>but the manga really does the best boy justice.
Yeah it does.
>>152470151
I'm sure that's because SS2 Trunks actually looks like a SS2 in the manga
>>152470408
This. I don't know what the fuck Toei was thinking having their SS2 look like.... pic related...
This chapter is freaking awesome. The manga is really coming into it's own, holy shit. I'm actually fearful for Trunks right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYWQcv-MpY4
>not reading the new chapter with best boy's theme
>>152470447
He looks like a cosplaying Laharl to me. Notice the lack of height, the bandanna, his lack of whorish nipples, and insane power leveling. It' almost like...he's some kind of...not giving up...meta self insert.
>the heart
>>152470346
>"There's a ningen in my back, there's not?"
>>152470515
I am too. I actually felt for Trunks when Goku looked down at him from the Time Machine. I don't know what he said, but my guess it was something like, "We'll be right back, Trunks! Stay alive!".
>>152470550
Ningen and mosquitos, eat too many bananas and you'll attract them both.
>>152470568
What is this manga bullshit? How does Goku know how to pilot the time machine?
>>152470568
"But due to branching timeline theory, they never returned for one universes' half-saiyan."
>>152470568
>Vegeta so fucked right here
I enjoy a lot see Jobgeta doing his job but man I really feel bad for him
What's he thinking at this moment, leting Trunks in the future?
>>152470638
Trunks most likely set everything for him. Mai was the one who initially distracted Black and Zamasu, then Trunks stepped in after Goku and Vegeta were set to go.
>>152470638
How do you know how to turn on a car that doesn't need a key?
>Bard of Time
>>152470638
Even Cell piloted the time machine you moron.
>>152470670
>leting Trunks in the future?
Buzzwordsfags sure are dumb
>>152470670
Vegeta most likely felt defeated in many ways, one of them not being able to protect his son's future and leaving him with two dangerous foes.
Enough about that though, how will BULMA feel? She told Trunks to return no matter the outcome of the battle, now she's going to find out that he's left alone in his timeline with Black and Zamasu.
Will the final battle take place in the present instead of the future? Zamasu and Black have every time ring. Nothing is stopping them from following Goku into the past, unless they're still scared of Beerus
>>152470638
Your dumb ass is too used to retarded Toei Goku.
Toyo Goku is actually competent.
>>152470760
Black supposedly told Vegeta in this chapter that he plans to venture into every timeline and do the same with them as they did with Trunks' world.
>>152470568
Present Trunks is going to be upset when his bro doesn't return with them. Present Trunks for the second trip to the future?
>>152470843
This makes the trip to the past quicker. I wonder how they'll handle the Mafuba situation. Goku and Vegeta will most likely be in a hurry since Trunks and Mai were left alone to fend for themselves. How will they learn it in time? It took a day for Goku to learn it in the anime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4irXQhgMqg
>>152470816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtA4b8rl_cc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vFlhzqqSqI
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTmLcuK3Aw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ODsC1TvCo
>>152470025
Same. It's a shame Toei hasn't really made an effort to animated Minus and especially Jaco by now, but then they're notorious for taking on so much shit that they'll never get around to it, even if they did.
>>152470932
That has to be my favorite panel of Black.
Mai confirmed best.
>>152469118
Get the Japanese DBFusions. Black is in that
WHERE TF ARE (YOU) COLORBRO???
>>152471308
Surely he'll come with those colors.
>>152469401
How come the bullets have no effect? In the anime, one shot nearly killed Black
>>152470891
>Goku and Vegeta will most likely be in a hurry since Trunks and Mai were left alone to fend for themselves.
Maybe the time machine will act like a time machine in this version so Goku and Vegeta return to that exact moment after they left.
>How will they learn it in time? It took a day for Goku to learn it in the anime.
Meh kid Goku learnt the Kamehamaha in a couple seconds compared to Roshi who it took 50 years. Same with many other Roshi moves like Zanzoken.
>>152471365
>Bullets
>Effecting Black
>>152471407
>Meh kid Goku learnt the Kamehamaha in a couple seconds compared to Roshi who it took 50 years
I'm thinking he already knows how to preform since he WAS the one to suggest it.
>>152471365
The anime is shit, the manga is not.
>>152471365
Are you asking about the sniper rifle or some other thing this board is a platform for?
>>152471365
he is transformed
This thread is nice and comfy, while the anime thread is still filled with trolling and fights. The split thread thing was a good idea.
>>152469379
>>152469474
awwwww dammit now the>>152469970 panel isnt as great since its a repeat
>>152470753
Are they planning on abandoning that timeline after defeating Black?
>>152471456
Your ability to ignore BLATANT partial foreshadowing is what's garbage here. And it hurts me, right here, to have to tell you that.
>>152470367
If he takes his hand off, will Trunks die?
>>152471500
Welcome aboard. There has been the occasional bait posts, but don't pay them any mind.
>>152471563
It would be extremely painful, at least.
>>152471589
He's a big saiyan.
>>152471510
Zeno is still most likely going to destroy it since they're two Zenos in the Universal Tournament arc trailer.
>>152471570
Glad to be aboard anon. This is what DB threads should be like. We're actually more active too, with more IPs
Can't wait to see the rest of this arc in the manga.
>>152471500
It's very good to have a nice DB thread, indeed.
>I'm so happy for you, Dear!
>>152471745
Who wants to guess what Gowasu is shouting?
How many time rings are there now in the manga?
Does it match up with this?
>>152471809
6 in total.
>>152470714
cell isn't a retard though
>>152471615
I know, but it still feels like they weren't plan on staying there from the start.
>>152471809
6, and no, it doesn't match up, yet
also timeline stuff, which I made for Xenoverse 2, so pretty old
>>152471858
Neither is Manga Goku dumbass
Does DB Super retcon Dragon Ball AF and GT?
>>152471849
I guess Zamasu is shocked because unbeknownst to him, Present Zamasu was killed by Beerus.
SO did he really skipped ssj2 sj3 straight to SSr,that's sounds like garbage
>>152471777
"ZAAAAAMAAAAAAAASUUUUUUU!!!!!!"
>>152471895
Toyo tried his best to work with what Toriyama gave him.
Toriyama said Black would have Super Saiyan before Super Saiyan Rose.
I'll excuse it.
>>152471895
>skipped
Why do people keep saying stupid shit like this? It's never stated or implied that you need to be a SS,SS2 and SS3 to become a SSB/SSR.
>>152471895
None of those are required to use SSG you stupid fucking piece of shit.
>>152471946
You don't even need Super Saiyan to achieve God. Just six pure Saiyans.
>>152471895
SS2 and SS3 are subforms according to Toriyama, SS and SSB are the main forms
>>152466640
Here's my (You)
>>152471809
I don't understand history 4
Why is he so damn based?
Are you people actually enjoin this manga? It's not bad at all, but it's so far behind, i know toyotaro fixed some dumb shit like the tears gas or goku's character , but all the main plots are pretty much the same
>>152471934
>>152471946
>>152471958
>>152471999
GOKU WAS ALREADY ABLE TO DO THOSE TRANSFORMATIONS
BLACK JUST DIDN´T KNOW HOW
Do you guys forgot that he stole gokus body or what?
>>152472056
Because makes no sense
>>152471958
Calm down autistic, i'm just asking.
>>152472076
>Black should off-the-bat be able to use Goku's full power
>Your logic
>>152471809
>Does it match up with this?
Yep the four timelines from that image plus the U12 timeline and the new timeline Trunks created in DBS/Beerus killing Zamasu here
>>152471849
Full translations wen?
>>152471999
I know but even if the decided to train and mastered their base and ssj form, ssj2 ssj3 are still a hug boost,and its still a huge gap between those forms
>>152472067
>but it's so far behind,
and? It's not a race, I'm willing to wait for the superior version of DBS.
Dammit, now we have to wait another month for the next chapter. Being monthly is suffering.
At least we have the new arc starting in a couple of weeks.
>>152468722
HNNNNNNNNNNNG
I really hope they do a Black arc movie base on the manga.
How does this make you feel, /a/?
>Dat top left panel
>Dodging effortlessly
>>152472156
Well, the next anime chapter is coming soon :^)
>Zamasu dodged a SSB hit
>BUT THE POWERLEVELINGGU IS SO GOOD
Shut up, it's the same trash. It still doesn't make sense.
>>152472232
That would be great.
>>152472346
>Being this retarded
>>152472361
>>152472232
This. We need an OVA at least.
>>152472303
Would be cool if in a later chapter Zamasu pulls a Sephiroth/Madara/Fujitora.
>>152472156
>Anime threads during zamasu arc
multiple threads with bump limits on a daily basis
>manga thread during Zamasu arc
barely two or 3 threads per month
Really makes you think.
>>152472149
I'm still thinking SSR multiplier is less than SSB's because the user is already a god
>>152472374
Don't reply to bait.
>>152472389
I'd rather have a slow thread with actual discussions than a thread fueled with troll posts and shitposters desu.
>>152472385
That would be fucking insane.
>>152468560
The right panel is super weird, we never see that hair's perspective
>>152472346
>Zamasu can't dodge one single hit from a SSB
Why? Zamasu being SS2 tier isn't in the manga
>Trunks gets hits off on Rosé Black
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>152472389
Are you an idiot? Of course they're slower because we know the end result. It's still the same story
When the manga was ahead, the manga threads would have multiple threads a day.
>>152472389
It's almost like the anime is weekly and the manga is monthly hence the different in the number of threads.
Also
>ad populum fallacy
Top kek
>>152468756
This panel makes me mad that the games or everything related to DB will use the anime as references for poses and other things that trigger my autism
>>152472468
He is trying to start shit, just ignore it.
Don't respond to bait, anons.
>Goku goes back to SS1 for some retarded reason and jobs
Prime storytelling right here.
Reminder to ignore bait
If >>152466640 doesn't make it I will probably try it
>>152472510
>>152472494
>>152472492
This.
Just one shitposter anyways.
>reacts to Trunks and still doesn't manage to dodge or block his hits despite being magnitudes stronger than SSB
Sugoi
>>152472076
Holy shit you're stupid.
Black would be cool if i didn't know he was actually that faggot inside.
>>152466640
Are you still doing it anon?
>>152469670
I'm mad that they never mention her transformation or make a joke about super saiyans
>>152472565
He lied anon.
>>152472464
>SS2 Trunks throwning SSR Black in the manga
>Trunks quickly appears and give Black a punch which thrown him out (ala Piccolo kicking Freeza or Goten and Trunks kicking Buu)
>SS2 Trunks throwning SSR Black in the anime
>Trunks quickly appears and stop Black's ki blade... and then increase his aura, hit his stomach, they exchange punches a few seconds and THEN Trunks kicks SSR Black
Looks like Toyotaro knows what a surprise attack is, toeishill
>>152472420
Yeah,but there wasn't alot of trolls in those threads actually there was al lot of discussion and fun until the ep 65 66 happened.
>>152472604
>>152472550
>reacts to Trunks and still doesn't manage to dodge or block his hits despite being magnitudes stronger than SSB
>>152472606
That was, because of the memes.
The anime may be very flawed, but I will always love the anime Black arc for all wacky memes and moments it gave us.
>>152472643
>1 second later >>152467938
Keep trying
I wonder how the Mafuba is going to fail in the manga.
>>152472709
black is going to save him
>>152472464
So, Trunks is a shitty Gary Stu no matter what. Fuck him.
>>152472565
Damn it.
I still prefer the 2-on-2 fight of the anime. Trunks being able to handle Black is retarded, but it didn't last long anyway.
Here it's the predictable Goku + Vegeta combo and they don't even exchange opponents, it's two 1v1s happening simultaneously unlike the anime's version.
>>152472480
It's the same shit Just compare This to an anime episode . There's is no bump limit and this is slow as fuck,you can't have an actual conversation here.
So if Black is just using the retarded saiyan level grinding exploit to get to god mode, why havent Goku and Vegeta abused that shit like crazy? They have before during Frieza arc.
>>152472705
Look at Black's face. He knows shit just got serious unlike the fight with Vegeta
>>152472852
Black is crazy, plus he exploits the level grinding for the sake of experiencing a power high.
>>152472504
Well we don't have translations yet so we don't know the reason,but it's kinda weird why did he revert back to ssj? He lost energy i guess? remember when you turn off the ssb form you lose 90 of your power.
>>152472852
Because Saiyans are written in a way that makes them not do that, it's like when Goku hated getting SSGod relying on others, without him getting there on his own, Vegeta did that on Namek (Zenkai heaven) so he could defeat Freezer.
>>152472686
Yeah,good times
>>152472967
Captain Ginyu could have been the strongest villain
>>152472828
That was ep was so good,but they have to fucked up with the tear gas............Just why??
>>152472522
Please do it anon.
>>152472957
>remember when you turn off the ssb form you lose 90 of your power.
No, only if you turn off and turn on again quickly. SS Goku still at 100% of his power, he only discrease to 10% if go SSB again
>>152473088
Cant sense through tear gas anon
>>152473088
>,but they have to fucked up with the tear gas............Just why??
It was already ruined with this and SSTrunks surviving a Kamehamaha from SSR Black.
>>152473027
Ahem
>Shoulders shoulders die namek let's go go die panic
>>152473193
Do you just not like continuity humor? What was Merged Zamasu doing during the fight with Vegito?
>>152473193
This is apparently not acceptable even though Trunks does the exact same thing this chapter?
Why? What's with the double-standards?
> and SSTrunks surviving a Kamehamaha from SSR Black.
>implying Trunks won't still be alive the next time Goku and Vegeta return to the future in the manga
I'm gonna be happy with how you'll try to justify that one.
>>152473254
>even though Trunks does the exact same thing this chapter?
Except he doesn't.
>>152473254
>This is apparently not acceptable even though Trunks does the exact same thing this chapter?
Stop lying, he doesn't at all. In this chapter he gets 2 surprise punches off and is quickly shut down.
Both punches he gets off are because Black keeps ignoring him to go for Goku and Vegeta
>>152473254
See >>152472604 and shut the fuck up, just stop making a fool of yourself
Stop replying to dumb bait.
>>152472845
I like how you ignored the anon who shot you down easily when he mentioned how the manga threads were active when they were ahead
Fuck off troll.
>>152473332
>two
He gets one sneak-attack in, then gets ANOTHER sneak-attack in, hitting Black multiple times in the stomach, despite Black seeing him TWICE in that entire sequence and somehow not reacting to his blows despite being a thousand times stronger.
It's the same shit. Stop trying to damage control.
>>152473193
Well that didn't bother me, cause we have seen that several times throu DB and DBZ , stronger opponents getting puched or being hit it by weaker opponents.also i didn't do any damage to him so...
>>152473003
Very good times, indeed.
Where has the time gone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2jbWmGxQ54
>>152469976
>Black can feel Mai's ki
why would she have ki to begin with?
>>152472852
Vegeta tries it this chapter and it doesn't work.
>>152473382
all human beings have ki
are you stupid?
>>152473367
You're either brain damaged or trolling. In the anime, Trunks overpowered Black, then beat him in a hand to hand scuffle
In the manga, Trunks got a surprise punch on Black. Black then ignored him and tried to shoot Vegeta and Goku. Trunks then attacked him again, and Black took a hit and then effortlessly slammed him down
Stop shitposting.
>>152473368
>i
shit i mean "he"
>>152473360
Then how about we start an intelligent discussion?? I'll start, how are the manga and anime going to play off each other from this point onward? Details, friend.
>>152471601
for us
>>152473436
The thing is, ki was always explained as a fighting power thats why it can be measured in units and it increases as you train. Mai not being able to shoot energy beams or fly she shouldn't have that much of a presence since she's a normal human.
>>152473440
>surprise
It's not a fucking surprise if Black SAW him stab Zamasu and then SAW him again dashing towards him. And YET, he still got hit multiple times (not once in each attack, he got hit by multiple punches in the second attack).
You're the fucking retarded one. Pic related is exactly what should have happened as Black shouldn't have had a problem to shoot down the time machine, since he's a thousand times stronger than Trunks.
Just admit both the anime and manga did the same fucking thing for the sake of plot and move on. Stop sucking Toyotaro's cock like a mindless retard.
>>152473480
I don't think there will be that many notable differences anymore.
It might be why Toyo is taking his time with the Black arc instead of rushing it since the anime is now based off his storyboards.
>>152469213
>ningens
Dumb fucking ningen.
>>152473532
If they do that, the manga would be completely pointless. Maybe this is the final arc of the manga. Or Toyo will still change the manga
>>152473193
U could imply that Kamehameha was mostly tanked by Mirai Zamasu.
>>152473526
>filler gif
Reminder Cell was defeated because of a surprise attack from Vegeta.
Why did Trunks use Krillin's version of the Taiyoken?
>>152473480
Toyotaro is already on the survival arc so i guess he's just gonna pass the story to Toei,and then Toei will do the episodes based off his storyboards which is a good thing cause we aren't gonna see a lot differences between manga and anime anymore.
>>152473610
That's dumb
>>152473532
If the well goes dry in Toyo-town, who'll be the new sheriff of artistic direction until they drill another wellspring of story inspiration. I for one continue to hold that the Universal Tournament is going to be a cluster of unintended mishaps and a possible bad end with some groundhog day looping thrown in, thus relieving the onscreen characters who've acted dumb of idiot status by giving them a chance to learn. Or if you like, the manga, games, anime, and maybe a good fanfic here or there will cross the streams. So to speak.
>>152473587
>If they do that, the manga would be completely pointless
There will still be people that prefer it over the anime considering the QUALITY.
>>152473587
I'm sure he will still add in some original stuff to make the manga a little different from the anime.
Animefags back to your dead thread >>152466494
>>152473656
Toei will probably do some small tweaks.
Like for example how they made Hit look like a threat in the anime and he had a calm personality unlike his manga counterpart(who was weak and smug).
>>152473648
Toyotaro enjoys teamfourstar is my guess.
>>152473508
yeah but once you feel someone ki you memorized like the way goku uses it with the instant transmision
black has been fighting mai and trunks for a while so he must know her ki really well
>>152473675
Yeah, to be honest, I'm not even all that hyped about the next arc in the anime because I know they will fuck something up. So I'll still follow the manga.
Stop pit shosting
>>152473648
Gohan see Krillin's taiyoken in Namek -> Gohan teach it to Trunks -> Trunks use it
You can use your brain properly, anon?
so next month we are getting
>goku learning about the mafuba
>vegeta training
>trunks power up
>black being cornered and zamasu being almost sealed
>ends with zamasu fusion
The manga is kinda slow
>>152473587
You're right once Toei start taking toyotaro's storyboards, the publication on V-jump of the manga will be completely pointless, but not the manga itself.
>>152473745
>I'm not even all that hyped about the next arc in the anime
I don't blame you, there's no way Toei will be able to handle animating all the fights in this tournament back to back. Some of these fights are going to look like ass.
>>152473874
It's almost like it's monthly
>>152473748
Did Seele send you!?
>caresses the self destruct button once more
>>152471541
>reaching this hard to look intelligent
>>152473705
B-B-But I thought us manga fans were a tiny minority!
>>152473983
Yes, I'm sorry you had to do that to a common post. This is so depressing.
>>152473891
>the fights in this tournament back to back
I forgot about that.
Wonder if Toyotaro is going to throw them a bone and make some of the fights less dynamic and more static.
Can ya'll stop acting like the anime is complete trash? The writing is worse and some episodes have awful animation and art, but we also get some great moments. SSJB Kaio Ken was hype, Goku vs Hit and the rematch was fun. The Black arc was awesome until the shit ending, Black and Zamasu were great. The VA and music is top tier, and when the animation is good, it's really good.
>>152473378
This was comfy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajiG_cQERPg
>"toeichads" trying to make the manga looks bad and annoy toyobros so badly to compensate how fucked the anime is
Manga is the superior version and every bait is a proof
>>152474047
>Can ya'll stop acting like the anime is complete trash?
But, anon, the anime is complete trash. Just like every DB anime
we are getting an anime adaptation of the manga, right? Just like FMA Brotherhood, r-right?
>Beerus is based around Tori's cat
>Tori hates mice
>Beerus is Tori's cat reincarnated into his manga, who represents Tori's hatred towards mice, but also how much he likes beer
>The final boss of Super will be a mouse, who Beerus and his hakai bros won't be able to destroy and will need the help of our z-heroes to defeat him
>Once this happens thanks to some kind of asspull the true god of the multiverse will be released, Toribot appears in front of our almost defeated heroes, and tells them some words:
>"Thanks for that guys, you can go home now, GT's about to start"
>Toribot resets everyone's memories and Beerus takes a long nap, next time wee see our heroes they think it's their first meeting after they defeated Buu.
And that ends Super
>>152473675
I'm sure with Shueisha on charge ,this arc is gonna better than zamasu arc and we're gonna see very few bad episodes,even these fillers eps so far have been pretty good
if either of these characters is not the final bad guy of Super, I will be severely disappointed.
>>152474047
2:05-2:10, DBS Manga Goku doesnt have a moment that was as epic as this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0UDR15dkGo
>>152473705
lol, fuck off hypocrite i bet you like to shitpost on the anime threads as well.
>>152474221
I can see Vados working with Daishinkan if he's planning something, which might lead to a fight against Whis
>>152474133
If that ever happens we'll have to wait a few years.
>>152474133
I ask myself what the long term effects of this websites continued existence in anything but an archive has on the future of Earth's biosphere. It's hardly ever a good answer, so I sometimes think this is all in my head. No sane species would do this. It's not even fun.
>>152474072
It's funny cause that's what you guys do on every singly anime thread,and now you're complaining
>>152474047
>Goku vs Hit and the rematch was fun
Meh I disagree. The manga actually did something interesting with Hit's strange mannerisms. Where in which Hit was strategically hiding his movements and his hands to avoid Goku seeing his tells. This also made Goku predicting Hits timeskip more believable since he was given a frame of reference for when Hit was going to use his time powers. Unlike the anime where Goku is omniscience or some shit. I mean there was still some my powerlevel>yours but it was still trying to add a strategic element to the fight which has me interested in Toyotaro's version of next tourney.
In the anime he fights with his hands in his pocket because of his generic imma look down on you personality. His shitty "improvement" made his fight boring and repetitive (the looped animation didn't help)
Goku found a way to predict Hit's timeskip movements
Hit: nuh uh I improve over that
Goku used Kaioken to multiply his stats and become "faster than time"
Hit: nuh uh I improve over that
Like some playground game of pretend. Boring as shit.
>The Black arc was awesome until the shit ending, Black and Zamasu were great
Toei's shit characterization of Goku ruined that arc, hell most of the character were incompetent not just Goku. Adding a time loop plot line to DB made no sense and it was repetitive as hell fight Black and Zamasu loses run away to past then return to the future and repeat until they remember Zeno's button.
>The VA and music is top tier, and
The OST is one of the only good things about the arc, that and some elements of episode 57.
>when the animation is good, it's really good.
Not really and even if that were truth its shit most of the time.
>>152474328
>truth
true*
>>152473636
>filler
Canon just doesn't have Trunks. There's no difference considering the gap between Black and Trunks is as big as the one between Cell and Krillin.
>Reminder Cell was defeated because of a surprise attack from Vegeta.
Okay, and? I'm repeatedly trying to push it through your thick skull that it WASN'T a surprise attack because Black SAW Trunks coming BOTH times.
Jesus fucking Christ.
updated
>>152474328
You actually think that's what that whole fight was about in the anime? That's all you took from it? Really? What a fascinating opinion, we're all so much better off for you're having shared that. Cigars for everyone! It's a BOY!!!
>>152474317
>that's what you guys do on every singly anime thread
Put shitty baits to annoy people? Are you retarded, anon?
>>152474453
>the typo means i can't handle this shit today
>>152474328
>Mr. Anderson, surprised to see me?
>>152474461
What, am i lying? go back and watch the other thread.
>>152474382
>Black ssj2
is that confirmed??
>>152474593
SPARKS ANON
FUCKING SPARKS
>>152474364
Not him, but you're really fucking stupid and your mindless babbling doesn't actually prove anything.
>>152474617
Stop replying to him. This thread was doing so well compared to that shitty anime thread that devolved into fights. Just ignore him, it's probably the OP angry about his thread dying.
>>152473368
>>152473443
Fuck off Trunks
>>152474617
Nor does your non-argument.
Can someone please Photoshop the blue Costanza background and a baseball bat in his hand?
>>152474695
Stop being retarded, the first time he got the drop on both Black and Zamasu from behind and Black barely saw him through the corner of his eye before he got punched in the face.
The second time Trunks attacks Black while he's focused on attacking Goku in the time machine. He gets few punches and then Black easily pins him down.
Posting v25
>>152474825
The other anon was right, don't reply to that retarded trollshill. He's just trying to start shit.
>>152474853
>>152474853
No one cares fuck off.
>>152472079
It is the timeline where trunks doesn't go back in time a 2nd time since he was killed by cell in the future I think.
>>152474825
You're the one being retarded.
How can you not understand that Black is literally HUNDREDS of times stronger than Trunks is at this particular moment?
It's not a surprise attack the moment Black sees him (which he does, both times). He should have easily been able to turn around and block the attack. Why? Because he's much faster and much stronger than Trunks is.
>>152474549
Yes, you are.
>>152474929
Or just tank the attacks like Cell did.
But mangashills can't see this, it seems.
>>152472092
Its the future, he should by then.
>>152474853
how did you calculate magetta's teir?
>>152475016
>it's the future
Are you fucking stupid or something?
>>152474853
>beerus and champa that low
>>152472107
But Beerus killing Zamasu creating a new timeline makes no fucking sense. How is the act of destruction create a timeline where Zamasu is alive?
I thought the manga would fix this powerlevel.
>>152474382
> no love for trunks
Profound sadness
>>152475095
why doesn't it make sense? Trunks goes back in time to warn them and changes the timeline
This chapter was fucking amazing.
>>152475095
>i don't understand time travel
Dumbass
>>152475046
Are you?
>>152475035
Because Magetta isa Steampunk Megaman villain
>>152474853
>kaioken x10 goku that low
>>152475202
But Trunks going back in time isn't what changes the timeline, considering there were only four when Gowasu checked them for the first time here >>152472107 It's Beerus destroying Zamasu that changes the timeline most likely, since that's what Toei went with, so it's probably in Toriyama's notes.
>>152475095
You can't fix what's already in the original script, you just make the best of it.
>>152467457
>B-But Black isn't smug in the m-manga! T-Toyotaro a hack!
niggers
TheDevilsCorpse
@DragonBallRedux
Thanks all, but I've already seen Ch 20. It popped up in Korean & Japanese though, so going to wait and see if @Herms98 will translate it.
>Translations soon
So what race were Recoome and Mr Popo?
>>152467457
>has a mental breakdown when losing
>becomes smug when winning like your generic DB villain
Yeah, soooo based.
Anime Black is better.
>>152475333
So Toriyama is a hack?
I left this thread for one hour and already the baiters are here.
Can you all fuck off to the anime thread if you hate the manga so much?
>>152475435
The anime thread has to deal with the manga baiters.
>>152475426
Toriyama is the one who made the Potara retcon and the awful ending to the arc, so he's at fault. Toyo is at fault for the awful 1/10th power thing because he didn't want Goku to have Kaio Ken and all Toriyama's notes had was Goku being x10 stronger than Vegeta.
>>152475477
Just do what WE did for a good amount of time and ignore them. It's not that fucking hard.
Why does black look so angry in the manga?
I like it better when he was smug.
>>152475479
>Toriyama is the one who made the Potara retcon and the awful ending to the arc, so he's at fault
We don't know if this is in Toriyama's notes yet.
Why do spics love powerlevels so much? Not just in DB, but in everything. Spics are always all over that shit.
>>152475572
Big numbers give me an erection.
>>152474606
Well That's not overwhelming evidence ,if he has sparks on all the panels,then it's defitly a ssj2 but a lot of characters have sparks around it when they power up.....i'm gonna check the manga anyway
>>152475280
>But Trunks going back in time isn't what changes the timeline
Yes it is, Trunks went back in time and told Goku and the other about Black which made Beerus kill Zamasu.
>considering there were only four when Gowasu checked them for the first time here
Five, read the chapter faggot.
Black is literally me, intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humor
>>152475629
THANKS A LOT GOWASU REEEEEEEEEEE
>>152474775
>>152475479
am i the only one who would be fine with someone else taking over the dragonball management/dragonball canon
toriyama was great and he created a great world but it feels like he doesnt know what hes doing anymore
like he once said give the torch to Toyotarou and leaving everything to him
>>152475545
Ignore the dumbass
>>152475035
We don't really know how strong is Magetta, but he's able to tank Vegeta's ki blasts like nothing
>>152475545
It's in. Toei would have had Vegetto messing around and hamming it up, then made filler of him being Vegetto. It's definitely a Toriyama creation, it fits with all the other retcons he made in interviews.
>>152475629
>Five, read the chapter faggot.
Five, four, whatever. That's not the point.
The point is that the order of events goes like this:
>Trunks comes back
>Gowasu checks the rings, there's 5
>Beerus destroys Zamasu
>Zamasu checks the rings, there's 6
Meaning there's no way that it was Trunks who changed the timeline, since the number of rings increased after Trunks already came back.
It was Beerus destroying Zamasu that caused the split, just like in the anime. And that makes no sense, just like in the anime.
>>152475707
Fuck off and watch/read GT or DBM.
>>152475435
>Can you all fuck off to the anime thread if you hate the manga so much?
Lol, I can exaclty the same about manga-fags in the anime threads,Why should I??
>>152475545
Yes we do, you're in extreme denial at this point. Toyo's scans for the next arc have 2 Zenos.
>>152475035
He pulled it out of his ass like most of that tier list.
>>152474061
>tfw no more Black previews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_biQmWCsTFI
Atleast, I have still the manga but I miss the lean mean meme machines they were in the anime.
>>152475789
And how does that prove that Vegetto is going to make an appearance?
>>152475633
Me when I've already been you. And wouldn't it be objectively on an image board?
>>152475836
Because Toyo already released an image showing Gowasu and Kaioshin there helping against Merged Zamasu. Stop being a dumbass, it's clearly happening. Do you want to embarrass yourself like you did when you all claimed the Mafuba wasn't Toriyama?
>>152475876
This. Vegetto was too big NOT to be in Toriyama's outline.
Vegetto retcon it's in the script also the Spirit bomb that trunks did,so even if you like the manga so much You'll have to deal with that shit sooner or later, knowing that Toriyama is the hack not Toei
>>152475905
his outline probably only states that they need to defuse
you can still add stuff like faulty earing's or kai magic
>>152466515
I've really grown to hate the manga and can't ever look at it the same due to the over-zealous mangafags who shitpost every anime thread with that one block of text, constantly shout "OUR GUY", and are generally assholes
I know its not the manga's fault, but fuck them.
>>152475925
>Spirit bomb that trunks did
Now this I doubt is in the script. There is no resistance in the manga, everyone is dead besides Trunks and Mai. The Trunks Spirit Sword heavily relied on the resistance and the little kids.
>>152476003
Stay mad
/OUR GUY/
>>152476003
Don't forget how they can't admit when the manga has flaws.
They became the next Narutards.
>>152476003
I get what you mean, but best you can do is just ignore shitposters and not let anyone ruin your enjoyment of something.
>>152475925
>>152476023
I think Trunks will pull some sword of light, but it won't be like the one from the anime at all. They added an energy sword attack to Trunks in DB Fusions that's completely different from the one seen in the anime. Still, it seems too coincidental if they just made up an attack and he turned out to be getting a sword of light in the anime too.
So, I guess Toriyama's outline does mention that he uses some kind of sword of light, but doesn't give any real details about it and the Spirit Bomb stuff was anime-only.
>>152476023
Unless they defeat Zamasu in the past for some reason, since we already know he plans on killing ningen from other timelines too.
>>152476003
I do really like manga, But that doesn't stop from shitposting here giving them a taste of their own medicine.
Leave the multiversal tournament animation to me
>>152475684
wow, that's really good. thanks a lot.
TRANSLATIONS WEN?
>>152476211
You should learn how to ignore shitposters then. They only stop when people don't give then attention.
>>152476134
Got a video of that? DBFusions adds things from both the anime and manga. I know SSG Goku's bio says "He unlocked this by bonding with 6 Saiyans, but later learned to transform without help"
>>152476183
Only problem is they said that the time rings can't take you back in time. If they invade Goku's world, they'd show up 20 years later
>>152474853
Lemme fix that for you.
>>152475925
You read this and remember just before the time ran out, Vegetto was going to use Bardock's Spirit of Saiyans. Let that sink in along with the other posts that don't fit here.
Universe Zamasu was definitely stronger than Whis and Beerus, because they couldn't do anything to stop him invading their timeline
>>152466640
ONEGAAAIIIII
>>152472504
>Zamasu using those psychic powers Supreme Kai has
Holy shit
>>152476554
They didn't want to stop him.
>>152476635
Yes they did. All their actions was to prevent Zamasu from pulling the same shit in the present. That's why they kill him and why Whis goes with Trunks to prevent it from happening again.
>>152473440
This. What a faggot.
>>152473741
> he must know her ki really well
and by ki he means her vagina.
This thread was great. We should always make separate threads when a new manga chapter is out.
>>152476460
>Merged Pepe and Cuckgito
>Stronger than GoDs
Epic meme
>>152475905
Except Vegetto is exactly like blue kaioken, a shitty nostalgic bait totally irrelevant
>Goku breaks Hit's time skip -> Goku give up because isn't fair defeat Hit if he can't use all his power
>Black and Zamasu fuse -> Merged Zamasu defeat Goku and Vegeta -> Trunks defeat Zamasu with his new form
Toei add and promote how Goku will use KK against Hit, but is pointless since he will give up, and Toei add and promote Vegetto will fight Zamasu but is pointless too because is Trunks who will defeat the god
>>152476046
>y-you don't accept what I said is wrong, so you don't accept ANYTHING
Pathetic
>>152477097
they probably are though
>>152478097
nope
also 10x kaioken blue is stronger than merged blackmasu
>TheDevilsCorpse @DragonBallRedux 2m2 minutes ago
>Black says every time Zamasu heals him from near death, the damaged cells become "mine", allowing "god's" mind & body to connect better.
Explain
>>152478884
gokus dead cells get replaced by zamasus new cells