/our guy/ gave Rose Black the coolest flame sparks effect.
The manga is so much better than the anime its not even funny. Based Tory
Will this ever become something outside of the manga?
C'mon people, no need to war anymore, next arc hopefully Shueisha steps up Toei's quality enough we can stop trolling each other.
>My webm is still being used to this day
Manga version of black and zamasu are meh.
I love black psychotic expression in it but his flamboyant personality is no more.
Also, future zamasu is damn weak, weaker than SSJGOKU, i wanted him to be like pic related, a kaioshin who can extrade blows with saiyans without necessarily being stronger than them, someone who can be threat by his strenght even inferior with immortality, not just immortality.
Toyotaro could have find explanation to that beside just sucking saiyans's cock again.
although my one complain is it's missing the last panel, the pic of 3 reacting.
I didn't hate it necessarily, just never thought highly of it.
Nozawa did well with Black in general, it wasn't just the flamboyant side. All the "beauty" talk made me think of Zamasu too much, and what I liked about Black was that he was DIFFERENT from Zamasu despite being Zamasu himself.
He was influenced from the cells of a Saiyan, only wanting power and his savage side was fucking amazing.
This isn't about you being a samefag, it's about you projecting about being a cum guzzler and needing to project on strangers about your homosexuality.
Manga Zamasu has all these abilities that make up for his lack of strength. Besides he was supposed to be a pushover in the anime too, they were very inconsistent with his power. SSJ Trunks was stomping him in the same episode where he traded blows with SSB Goku
Red Ribbon was the best arc in all of Dragon Ball.
>Goku against Muscle Tower
>Goku, Kuririn and Bulma being chased by Red Ribbon's soldiers
>Kuririn and Bulma shocked that Goku unintentionally waged war with the Red fucking Ribbon Army
>Bulma sex appeal
>Bulma and Kuririn making fun of Blue for being a faggot
>Goku vs Pirate Robot
>Dr. Slump Crossover
>Arale vs Blue
>Taopaipai introduction (who we later find out in the 22nd tournament is the younger brother of Tsuru - the training partner of Roshi in their younger days)
>Taopaipai killing Upa's father
>Taopaipai defeating Goku
>Goku climbing Karin Tower
>Taopaipai rematch with Goku
>Goku defeating Taopaipai
>Goku deciding to solo the entire Red Ribbon base
>Commander Red's muh height problems
>Officer Black betraying and killing Commander Red
>"Commander" Black vs Goku
>"Commander" Black mech
>Goku effortlessly defeating "Commander" Black
I hope Piccolo gets a half decent showing in the next arc.
I mean, I doubt it. This is Dragon Ball Z. It's all about Saiyans but I'd really like for him to have something outside 'Being a better grandad to pan than Goku is'
Just because I want a kaioshin or namek to be relevant?
I know, that's one of my main complaints on the anime version, his inconsistency and lack of explanation.
Don't tell me toyotaro isn't capable to correct that!
Isn't dissapointing to just use the fact that he's a prodigy among kaioshin because he can use other's body well?
He can use immortaly to face his inferior strenght without being weak as fuck.
I'm sorry but where does the "Zamasu being a prodigy" argument come from?
Kaioshin said Zamasu's skills were impressive, enough to beat all the other Kaioshin if you were to round them all together, but the word "prodigy" was never thrown away.
In both the anime and manga, becoming immortal made him a sadist. He's so arrogant and proud of his immortality that he willingly lets down his guard just to show off how nothing can hurt him
That's why Based Vegetto calls him out on feeling pain when he's merged
That's not my complaint, zamasu is indeed a sadist on the anime but at least he can hurt goku and co, even vegeta post-time chamber by surprise.
In the manga, I'm not even sure if he will do more than just take hits and burning senzu.
because now everyone's so fixated with MUH GOKU that literally none of the other characters matter. Piccolo is probably so far down on the priority list for Toei and Toriyama that even Yamcha has probably had more time on-screen than Piccolo
I'll admit, I've liked his filler apperances. Showing off that well, he's one of the fighters who actually has his shit together life-wise.
But a fight would be great. Not one they cop out on like Frost, either.
He also has any necessary length of time to improve his abilities and gather information because of that time ring. I said as much back when the anime versions showed up about good ol' Black Coffee.
I'm really beginning to believe that the type of fans others talk about who'll "buy/watch/like anything as long as it involves flashy animation and fights without it having to make sense" are what consist of the fans towards the anime.
It doesn't have to make sense - no. It doesn't have to have logic - no. It doesn't have to have amazing quality in art and animation - no. As long as it's cool and appeases to your fan desires, you'll eat that shit up.
People who claim to like the anime belong in two groups:
1. They actually enjoy the anime and don't care for logic or consistency, as said above. They also are more into anime than they are into manga.
2. They're trolling for the sake of muh (Yous).
This is a fact that can't be denied.
Piccolo doesn't need another power boost. He just needs to be in more fights to showcase his skills and tactics. The people who make Super are too arrogant to understand that people want characters other than Goku and Vegeta to get some screentime.
Hopefully, Heroes would give Black another transformation like maybe SS3. I mean, this dude right here got it too.
Never said that the Anime make sense.
Just that Toyotaro's super isn't as flawless as you depict it.
My point is that you justify the fact than zamasu is damn weak for the love of consistency even when Toyotaro pull off things more inconsistent than that.
Zamasu has years to be strong by training or use his time ring for other shit than just immortality and nothing else.
No one is fucking saying Toyo's work is flawless.
He fucks up, just like how Toriyama and Toei fucked up.
Show me a single post where someone said Toyo's work is flawless that isn't bait.
would you like her even more if she was a saiyan?
Anime canon and manga canon.
Oav bardock was Canon to DBZ, not to DB for example.
Toriyama just give main point and let Toyotaro and toei do their stuff for his love of easy money.
Will Toyotaro keep SSJ RAGE?
I want him to keep it because trunks will be at least relevant with it, he can still give explanation to this transformation.
If Toyotaro make him just stay behind, doing solar flare, serving as a bait...
I did, what are we discussing about? I just wanted to point out that Bardock is somewhat canon, enough that he literally appeared in the manga and even kicks off the Dragon Ball Kai series with him.
Speaking of which, did /a/ approve of what Toriyama did to Bardock in Minus?
>mfw Toryiama praised the Bardock special yet he decided to change the whole story
you know you can replace the Rose picture now right?
>at least not as an artist.
Also, no far away shots, because Toriyama wasn't great that either. See pic related.
>P-PLEASE ME GENTLE WITH ME BLACK-SAMA!
>HELP ME TRUNKS!
>SAVE ME KAKAROTTO!
Will Gohan ever do something else besides jobbing and saving the saiyan race?
>just casually gives out hidden "hi's" like it's nothing
I missed you.
Don't think you're getting away this time.
>!LAED LAER EHT SI SIHT PU GNIMRAW EROM ON
So is Broly or Goku the legendary super saiyan? Still unclear.
He has his moments, but on a panel to panel basis and in terms of general composition he's frequently somewhat lackluster to me. He's about as good as you could ask for for something like Super, but in and of himself he's not that great.
He's done some good action sequences, though. >>152452085 looks pretty good, for example.
Goku was the first to unlock Super Saiyan.
Broly is not canon.
Goku IS The Legendary Super Saiyan.
The legendary Super Saiyan was someone else. Broly is a, eternal placeholder until Toriyama decides to do something about it, which will be never.
The Legenday Super Saiyan God was also someone else.
Bardock is the canonical legendary super saiyan now, in that he literally began the legend.
Why? Pure female saiyans would be useless, the female humans can have superior hybrids.
Besides, there are pure female saiyans living in U6. Not for too long, though. After the tournament is over all Universes except U7 will probably be lost.
>K-KAKAROT, TRUNKS H-HE'S TOO STRONG. PLEASE HELP
>Why? Pure female saiyans would be useless, the female humans can have superior hybrids.
Doesn't that fact can also be applied if it's about a hybrid between a human male and a saiyan female?
>Pure female saiyans would be useless
>the female humans can have superior hybrids.
>not wanting male human on female saiyan action
its hotter this way
Xenoverse 2 confirms it was literally all Towa's fault, her and Mira shoved him in a time hole and he ended up there, they they captured and brainwashed him.
Then Bardock used the strongest technique in Dragon Ball: the FULL NELSON.
Frankly I expect Goten and Trunks to be taller when Goku and the gang return from the tournament because it's easy to use it as a timeskip. Not as tall as EoZ but preteen.
EoZ is still canon. We don't know for sure if Toriyama will approve adventures after EoZ but for now it's the official end of the franchise.
I'm going to repopulate the earth with you Mai.
>Please be gentle with me Blacksama.
Technically it's been referred to in the 30th year official timeline by Shueisha, but this so called "official" timeline is a fucking mess that incorporates dumb shit like Garlic Junior filler but not his movie etc.
So yeah Ep of Bardock is kind of canon.
They randomly threw in the driving license episode in there too
Ladies and gentlemen, your multiversal tournament MVP.
>I-I'll just give you t-the (You) since you're trying hard at this point....
S-Sure Torankusu, but p-please take it easy...
>jobetafag this desperate
>that is going to show them to not mess with Jobgeta
>You will never handle Trunks' sword
I bet this week's episode will be
>First half: Goku tries to train but he finds everyone are busy
>Second half: Goku finds Krillin as the only guy who isn't busy and tries to convice him the rest of the episode
And pic related happens
Cuckgetafag status: rekt
>ywn be Trunks' personal cum dumpster
I'd rather bully a FemTrunks
Constantly and roughly
I know that feel, anons.
>He needs ssj2 to match Captain Ginyu.
Is there any point watching the anime once the manga caught up to it?
How do you people force all that shit tier animation and art down your throat is beyond me
>caught up to it?
it won't catch up and by the looks of it and Shueisha is now in charge and the quality has increased. these last 2 episodes.
Hopefully the next arc really uses Toyotaro's storyboards.
The manga publication isn't going to get ahead of the anime. Toyotaro will just provide his storyboards (or something like that) to Toei.
No it wasn't, post some QUALITY pictures from the Saiyaman filler.
even if that was QUALITY, it's not as bad as what we've had in the past where it was QUALITY every other frame.
I'd love to see a Future Trunks Babidi Flashback arc done in Toyotaro's manga style.
Up will loose their universe.
Mystic gohan will get an upgrade merged with God form.
Piccolo will get a power up.
Goku and vegeta will train their original God form (still no explanation on vegeta red) to achieve an evolution beyond blue.
Goku will be pushed beyond his limits spiritually and physically. He will have a different outlook on things after it's over.
Grand Priest is going to get his shit pushed in by the new big enemy, and there is a scene where whis is fighting and owning a bunch of warriors before he gets owned.
Beerus can't beat this new enemy. Whis cannot.
There will be a more in depth of who goku made angry, and about the 6 destroyed universes (there used to be 18)
>How do you people force all that shit tier animation and art down your throat is beyond me
Is this your first chinese cartoon or what? What do you expect from Toei using Philippines money to save money.
GT also had a lot of animations problems comparable to Super and even Z.
Now they are getting sightly better but I'm not expecting GITS tier animation.
Just archive it until further notice.
The OVA was birds decision with the push of dragonball room. Some old editors of Toriyamas manga suggested that there should be an OVA based off of the super manga done by a different studio (not toei???) Milk it and make it worth while, can't hurt like the goHan fans do.
There will be lots of spin offs including yours truly...... for the fans who wanted edgy hardcore, good looking drawing and animation with a good story, it will be in the near future.
>The OVA was birds decision with the push of dragonball room. Some old editors of Toriyamas manga suggested that there should be an OVA based off of the super manga done by a different studio (not toei???)
Don't lie to me man.
When toei is in charge, everything is too good to be true.
From what I hear, the current CEO of TOEI has this weird idea that shows should revolve around merchandise. Dragonball was always the other way around which is why it was enjoyable.
Every show that toei touches, except for the 2 privileged children, fails.
A lot of animators want to leave, and have left...........
Viz has a page for free chapters, where you can find Dragon ball super official translation . Would be nice to see someone rip it.
Toei philosophy; If they don't pour money into garbage we produce, then we mark the series as a dead franchise.
Reality; When you make quality a product,
Even your retarded merchandise sales will be greater because it's based off of a GOOD quality series.
So, Toei actually knows they fucked up many times, but nobody will give this CEO the boot......... they need to give their anime rights to someone competent, or fire the ceo.
Lol, that's cool. I can't say too much, but just look out for it. Don't be surprised though.
Take it with a grain of salt. I didn't promise quality but usually with an ova it goes up. Lol you really think the same company that pushes the same dvds for 30 years won't jump for that?
At this point, their merchandise sales are so good, super could be a flop and they could afford to make another dB series....
Whoa whoa whoa whoa.
The manga is good, but the anime is shit? Because the anime is definitely fucking garbage.
Should I hop on the manga hype train or what? What's the consensus, lads?
You're doing a massive disservice to yourself if you haven't read the manga version.
>>152458070 (too many spoilers in this)
>Vol. 1 doesn't come out til May
Well, I guess I'll have something to look forward to.
Does Goku still get easily and effortlessly killed by that Koala guy with a Frieza saga hand laser though?
>RoF is skipped over, but it still happened.
Goku never got off'd by some fag with a hand weapon. Didn't happen.
I still can't wrap my mind around it. Why doesn't Bulma build that exact laser but better and nuke every powerful baddie they come across? What's the point in strength and fighting if they can be damaged by low tier arms fire?
I dunno. Main thing that bugs me is that Piccolo saw the sky go black when the Pilaf gang summoned the Dragon, was really suspicious that something was up, and then did nothing.
Pretty sure Piccolo's supposed to be smarter than that.
Lots of stupid shit like that happens, but that laser thing was really a low blow imo, especially during this climactic battle.
Not just that, but how fucking gay was the Blue SSJ transformation? Literally every new form in DBZ has an unreal, theatrical reveal. Except this. Poof: blue. No theatrics or explanation. Shit was gay. I left that theater pretty pissed off. Coolest part was Roshi fighting Frieza guys.
And not to mention that fucking devil guy Piccolo was fighting. Who the fuck is this guy? Some Cell-tier throwaway henchmen working for fucking Frieza? The fuck is this crap?
Laser was to make a point that things can be deadly with the guard down. It probably could have been done better if the guy distracted Goku and then Frieza did a death beam instead, but it is what it is. Frieza army tech is pretty advanced considering they can travel to other solar systems in short periods of time and fully regenerate Frieza from a bunch of sliced up parts. Were the writers thinking about that? Probably not, but I like to think that can explain how a little laser can hurt Goku.
I don't mind the transformation itself, it's fine. It's the fact that it was discovered off screen that sucks. And they did it twice in one movie, since Golden Frieza just appears in the same sort of way.
Anime handled that better, but power levels will also be a bit bullshit.
>how a little laser can hurt Goku.
>why would Goku lower his powerlevel?
>It probably could have been done better if the guy distracted Goku and then Frieza did a death beam instead
> We don't know that.
Are you retarded? Gohan's transformation against Cell was his first time. Goku just knew he had the potential for something like that and even then didn't know it was a whole new level.
Actually, he went SSJ2 for like one second in the time chamber with Goku, that's how Goku knew he'd become so strong, or that he had the potential to. So either way, we saw Gohan's first transformation on-screen.
>The fact that after Goku used SSJ1 once he could use it anytime
Read the manga faggot.
>cross counter punch doesn't even look satisfying
So it was stated (because I can't remember that part) that the potaras are indeed infinite, but only for Kais? (I guess to explain why kibitokai was still a thing).
So what would happen if a mortal and a kai fuse?
It's more along the lines of Goku's toughness being due in large part to his exceptional Ki rather than his innate physical durability though he is pretty durable
In that moment he let his guard down and wasn't using his Ki to defend himself or at least not at the level needed to take that hit
People keep saying this but when the fuck has fusion ever been the last resort (in canon) besides in the Future Trunks saga?
>Frieza and Cell: fusion didn't even exist
>Buu: fused to fight Super Buu, defused inside him and didn't try it again
>Beerus: no fusion
>Universe 6: no fusion
come the fuck on
SSJ2 and SSJ1 were both talked about by the cast extensively and hinted at. There was a whole mini arc in the android arc about going beyond SSJ1 and vegeta kept talking about the super saiyan legend during the namek arc
>they should all be egyptian animals
Bes the dwarf is an egyptian god, perhaps not part of the older pantheon of Osiris but still technically within reason.
>DLC Pack 2 for XV2 is only including Vados and Champa
wtf, I thought they said Zamasu and Rose Black were coming? Fucking what the fuck why did they say that then go back to only 2 characters?
Think of the context of this picture
Still waiting on Anubis, Ra and Sobek.
Toei initially wanted Beerus to be a reptilian named "Virus" before Toriyama changed him into a Neko Majin.
tfw ra when
No, they literally announced what is coming in Pack 2 yesterday.
DLC Pack 2, which will be priced at $9.99 USD (or included as part of the Season Pass) will include:
New Universe 6 Saga Story Chapter
2 New Playable Characters (Champa/Vados)
1 New Stage (U6 vs U7 Tournament Stage)
8 New Attacks
3 New Costumes
1 New Vehicle (Saiyan space pod)
Along with DLC Pack 2 will be a free update #2. No release date has been announced for it or DLC Pack 2, but free update #2 will have the following:
5 New Costumes
3 New Accessories
5 New Attacks
New Background Music Tracks
New Costume Award from the World Tournament
New Rule Added to the World Tournament
Fuck I didn't mean to say
>They were showing off who was going to be available for DLC pack 2
I meant they were showing off who was going to be available for other DLC packs,
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding
Toyotaro is LITERALLY /our guy/
I apologize for the full blown autism but how did Frieza know about monkeys?
He refers to Saiyan as monkeys but as far as i'm aware Monkeys is an earthling species.
Unless Monkeys are a universial species then how the fuck did Frieza know? Or is this another Funimation mistake
I was away for a few days so I missed the discussion. What was /a/'s reaction to this?
Personally, I'm OK with it. I don't like how he looks too humanoid but that's okay, I guess. The only real problem I have is that his arms are skinny.
I hate new-Toriyama not showing muscles anymore. I think he would look really good if his arms had muscle.
As the Angel, he's okay too. I don't think we can do much with them anyway.