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Was Vegeta even ready in this recent chapter?
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He's returned.
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>>152425712
Reminder toyo is a hack. He is going to far when will someone stop him.
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>>152425773
DELET THIS
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>>152425773
This is getting out of hand
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How can a sinner be so beautiful?
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>>152425773
Absolutely disgusting. Someone report toyotaro
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>>152425712
Every single DB thread ever:

Anime vs Manga autism
canon vs non canon sperging(japan has no concept of canon, you are arguing over nothing)
POWERLEVELS worst kind of discussion due to it all being head canon. It is confirmed power level pondering leads to fanfiction writing.
Super vs GT (shit vs shit =shit)
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Reminder that Multiverse will always be the better story.
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https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/all
Viz has a page for free chapters, where you can find Dragon ball super official translation . Would be nice to see someone rip it.
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>>152425712
> getting your ass kicked by a ssj when you are ssblue
Can't get more pathetic then this
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>>152425880
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>>152425773
This actually made me chuckle
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>>152425712
>The manga has them going back in forth between the past and present over and over and over.
You guys told me the manga was less shit?
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>>152425917
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>>152425955
Just once dipshit.
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>>152425955
>over and over
They're going back once, anon.
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>>152425917
Getting beaten up by a woman
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>>152425891
>That Zeno
Holy shit Viz is retarded
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>>152425880
>japan has no concept of canon
<citation needed>`````````````````````
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>>152425712
>>152425880
>>152425917
>>152425922
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>>152425986
>Viz
>Missing the sticker
Surely you can't be this retarded.
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Fuck the manga. I knew they would fuck up vegeta. Toyotaro is a big piece of shit. Anime>>>>>>>> Manga
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>>152426041
>t. Vegeta
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>>152426041
>Anime Vegeta gets fucked up by Base Black
>no one fucking complains.
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>>152426041
>He wasn even trying
Hahahahahaha based black
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Stop posting in this shit thread
Come over here guys
>>152425756
>>152425756
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>>152426119
but that thread has the same posts
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Did he get some that night?
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>>152426119
No thats where the autistic sperg is.
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>>152426119
Stop advertising your dead thread please.
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>>152425891
>zeno will never be written with an australian accent/lingo
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>>152426119
> goes in
> retard at it again with his headcanon
> checks out
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>>152426119
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>I WAS PRETENDING TO BE JOBBED
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>>152426283
> I actually jobbed
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>>152426339
>Ssj> SsjBlue
Only vegeta can manage something like that
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>>152426361
Will Vegeta ever catch a break?
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>>152426378
He will beat Black in the rematch after going back to the future just like in the anime
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>>152425977
>>152425980
Yeah, sure. And Rose and Mafuba aren't canon either.
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>>152426378
Fuck no
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>>152426399
Toyo used the rematch quotes in their first fight. Veget wont do shit besides being fusion fodder for goku.
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>>152426339
>le :O face

Holy shit can Toyotaro ever draw another expression? Fucking hack.
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>>152426400
Rose isnt canon. His hair colour isnt stated it might be just blue faggot.
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>>152425766
>Tfw I want to post Blacks and Zamasus
>But I deleted my Black & Zamasu folder.

>>152425712
No one was ready for that beating.
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>>152426400
If you knew how to count to 3 you'd know that they're already getting the Mafuuba jar on their second and last attempt in the manga dipshit.
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>>152426447
It's stated as pink by Goku initially than the color explained again in detail by Zamasu analysing Black.
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>>152426339
This never stops being not funny
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>>152426378
In the anime he did.
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>>152426479
There is no word for pink in japanese
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>>152426508
There also isnt a word for blue
They can always just use pinku or some shit
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>>152426454
Are you fucking retarded?
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>there are no words for pink or blue in japanese

are dbs posters really this retarded?
http://www.omniglot.com/language/colours/japanese.htm
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>0 mortal plans throughout all alternate universes
What did toyo mean by this?
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>>152426149
>Get some
>Implying Gohan wasn't telepathically signaling godpapa Piccolo to babysit and bring senzu beans during dinner that night.
>Piccolo and Pan weren't even a half mile away before they heard Videl screaming felt a ki spike and saw hercules mansion shaking.
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>>152426571
Black meant once they killed Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks, they're going to other universes to do the same as what they did to Trunks' universe.
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>>152426571
I dont know but what I do know is vegeta getting his ass kicked like the bitch he is
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>Zeno has guards because, despite his instant erasing ability, he's really weak
>Zeno's guards aren't there to guard Zeno from the world but the world from Zeno, their only duty is to make sure nobody pisses Zeno off
Which theory is more likely to you?
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>>152426508
Goku saind Pinku "ピンク

"紅色=べにいろ” By Zamasu meaning rose/magenta colored.
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>Cell intentionally waited for and challenged Gohan specifically because he knew he was the only one who could possibly give him the challenge he wanted after he pushed him far enough, unlike Goku, Vegeta or any of the other Z-Fighters

How does it make you feel knowing now that Cell was the best trainer that Gohan ever had in his life?
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>>152426603
After what happend to Trunks his Universe I think it is obvious which one is the answer.
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>>152426571
The blacklash I got for saying this is canon was just pure autistic degeneracy and no most of them were not toeifags but mangafags. Suck on it faggots
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Ningen Zero Keikaku
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>>152426651
I remember toyocucks comming up with excuses like
> its not canon because its just a design
>Is broly canon? Hurr durr
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>>152426613
>Cell didn't live to see his star pupil job
I'd say he was lucky.
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>>152426662
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>>152426662
>Editors note: Keikaku means "plan"
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>Jobetafags unironically believed that their Prince of Manlets could actually defeat best boy
Serves you faggots right.
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>>152426684
Some were so pathetic they said its not even from toryiama even though in some artowkr there was actually his name written. After that they said its a toei invention and toryiama only helped with the design.
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>>152426702
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>>152426651
BROLY CONFIRMED CANON
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>>152426684
I like the manga as well, but they really seem to just suck the manga's cock no matter what it does.
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>>152426603
The latter.
I mean, the very concept of power is something that he pulled out of his ass so no matter how powerful you are it means nothing to him because he is always stronger.

Then when you realize that he's also under the sway of time and that there are potentially infinite Zeno's out there.

I really really wish the super trunks saga had never taken place. It just completely fucks canon in every fucking way and doesn't even make sense.
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>>152426651
I made a bet with two fags where they at? They need some sucking up to do .
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>>152426756
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>>152426613
He didn't actually.
He gave his all in his fight against goku.
And not even fucking dr.gero's computers thought that gohan was anything special so it never got any of his cells.
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>>152426651
Its true when chapter 19 came out there were so many apologist already defending everything out of their asses. They even went so far to say that rose will never be canon lol
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>SS2 Goku < SS2 Trunks = SS3 Goku < Black < Boosted SS2 Vegeta < SSB Vegeta < SSB Goku < SS Black < SSR Black

How makes you feel?
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>>152426283
>>152426339
>>152426714
Y-Yamero!!!
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>>152426795
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>>152426795
Like DB canon and basic power levels are now hopelessly fucked.
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Guess who else is about to get jobbed

You're not alone Vegeta
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>>152426651
You were arguing with some fucking retards considering that's a Toriyama concept art by TA himself.
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>>152426829
Not him but when chapter 19 came out there were so many people already excluding ssrose as canon.
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Someone post the Vegeto thinking about killing pan story
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>>152426825
Was multiverse the site that spread the cancer that lssj makes you stronger with time?
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>>152426852
Not really, I remember I was there, I've been in every major thread during new chapter releases and pretty much every other thread.
I think you guys are overexaggerating, there one like one fierce argument with 1 or 2 retards but they didn't represent the majority, especially after Herms corrected his own translations.
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>>152426563
its a meme ya dip

>>152426829
no suhc thing as canon mate, how many times do you need to get btfo ove rthis shit? masochist for humility.

>>152426714
my uncle works in the same studio as toyo he told me vegeta will get a rage boost and beat Goku Black

>>152426899
porblem is those two guys make 50 posts each in a 200 post thread
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>>152426889
Yep
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>>152426899
Even with herms translation there were retards still being in denial. Problem was most people were thinking manga would get rushed for the new arc so many toyocuck apologist already dismissed ssrose as being canon
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When Vegetto arrived in his field, he put his hands on the soil. He felt a sort of nostalgia overcoming him. He saw smaller hands, the hands of a child plowing a field with difficulty. Dazed, he closed his eyes for a few seconds then opened them to see his own hands. He felt a tear in the corner of his eyes, but he didn’t rub it off. With rage, he put his hands in the ground and started working, his mind elsewhere…

Further, Kulilin bustled about working as fast as he could. After half an hour, he allowed himself a short break. He had plowed about thirty miles square of field, he could rest a bit, couldn’t he? He exhaled heavily and let himself fall on the ground, his eyes focused on the blue sky. Memories of Gokû and him came back from time to time. No matter how he liked Vegetto, it wasn’t the same… On the other hand, he had none to blame for anything… After all, there was no one to blame… Besides, it had been only a few months that he had been gone. Time would heal. Kulilin closed his eyes that tears had filled at the thought of his best friend, almost his brother… After a while, he dried his tears with his sleeves then got back up and stretched. Those fields weren’t going to plow themselves!
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I am happy for you zamasu/ black fags and anti-vegetafags but the biggest hype is :
The legendary super dwarf
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A week later, Vegetto’s state had considerably worsened. He had lost about eleven pounds in spite of the huge meals Bulma and Chi-Chi – who spent most of their day cooking – tried to feed him. As for the others, they keep working in the fields.

Despite his weakness, the Saiyan wanted to keep up appearances and to appear as if he was as strong as ever. But it was in vain: he hadn’t even walked fifty five yards that he suddenly fell. Desperate, Bulma prayed at her husband’s bedside. Of course, she knew god very well and she very well knew that he couldn’t help them, but she kept praying anyway, for that was the only thing she could do. Days slowly passed and Vegetto seemed to go worse with each passing day. Five days later, he didn’t even make the effort to appear to be going well. He stayed in bed all day long and ate as if his life depended on it, which, actually, was true. Hopeful, Gohan watched the shoots. At long last, after a long wait, he saw the first senzu beans. He took a handful and flew back to the camp at top speed. He landed at his father’s bedside and he noticed that his father was breathing with difficulty, his eyes closed and the face tense, as if he was suffering a thousand deaths.
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She saw that Vegetto was flying above the house so she went to meet him there.
“You could have told us you were coming, we haven't prepared anything.”
Vegetto closed his eyes and concentrated. He hadn't lost the ki of Kulilin's daughter, even if she didn't emit much. He was proud to be able to follow weak people even though they were so far away: she was several thousand miles away and, according to the energy waves she emitted, he could feel that she was very excited. She probably was talking on the phone.
He didn't bother to greet 18 with a 'hello', to apologize or even to beat about the brush.
“Tell me, when you chose to have a child, did you wonder if you could?” he asked her.
“Yes, I wasn't sure if I was able to carry a child.”
“But did you feel you had the right to have a child?” the Saiyan specified.
18 understood he wasn't blaming her for having a child, but rather she understood what he really meant and their common point. The number she used as a name always reminded her that she wasn't a true woman. As the indestructible Vegetto, 18's nature kept her apart from the other human beings. She also knew that if Kulilin hadn't loved her, she most likely would have killed half of humanity.
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And that really annoyed Vegetto. Come on, the second strongest being in the whole universe spent his free time with books!
“Please, a little fight!”
“We'll make the Earth shake another time, dad. I've many things to do since Pan's birth. The administration is requesting completely stupid things! Do you know that because of her grand-father, she's considered a princess? It doesn't give her any privilege, but I still have to fill up the files.”
“Pleaaaase! I'd like to see you motivated for once! We can go on Jupitron-9? The air is breathable and the gravity is 200G! We can break anything we want there!”
“What? A gravity of 200 times Earth gravity?”
“Ah ah! I knew you'd be interested!”
“So it means that the gravitational acceleration reaches 1962 meter per second squared! I don't think that rock or earth can take such an heavy pressure. I wonder what is it made of.”
“Huh?”
“And how can the air be breathable? The oxygen should at least be liquid on that planet. I suppose it's still dangerous for the body.”
“But what are you babbling? The air is breathable, that's all there is to know! Bra didn't complain about it.”
“What? You had your little girl support that pressure??? But she weighed about 25 500 Newton over there!”
(Little game, for you, readers: what is Bra's weigh in pounds/kilograms when she get on a scales?)
“Gohan, what you're saying doesn't make sense. All I can tell you is that Bra and I survive very well when we go there. Anyway, I can see you're in no mood for a serious fight. You never are.”
“Eh... yes, dad. I'm sorry, but fighting isn't my favourite pastime.”
“I know. Yet you never fought better than years back, when you fought against Buu, Ah, I remember that one! Motivation can change everything with you!”
“Eh, I guess so. So, I've to go dad. Dad...? Are you ok?”
Vegetto had just stopped moving, his fingers were contracted and looked like claws.
“I... huh.. no, it's nothing. I'm going. See you later, my son.”
And he teleported himself.
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>>152426508
just stop
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Where the fuck are you fags getting from the information that black only pretended against vegeta? I checked herms+ leaks and in none of them was it ever stated that black was holding back. Powerlevels are still all over the place.
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>>152427307
All headcanon from toyofags to make sense of chapter 19.
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>>152427307
I am curious as well if that is the case then this chapter is another pile of mess with ssj black beating the fuck out of ssblue vegeta after just one zenkai.
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>>152427307

Herms hasn't posted a full translation of the chapter yet.

Trunks straight out says that Black was setting up things to get a near death power up against Vegeta. And when Black showing his power above Vegeta's, he mentions not needing SSJB to beat him and the Saiyan "power up from recovery" ability separately.
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Why won't Elder Kai unfuse?
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>>152427307
It's not outright stated that he was faking it, but he does confirm that he knew he didn't obtain the full potential of his body and in order to unlock it he wanted to get beat to a Zenkai on purpose.
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>>152427400
>Trunks straight out says that Black was setting up things to get a near death power up against Vegeta
Give me the leak that has this stament on it
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>>152427419
see
>>152427416
Trunks on the left confirms it and then Shin reconfirms his healing technique to recover from his injuries for his 2 man Zenkai plan after that.
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>>152427453
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>>152427416
Herms didnt had this one. Oh well gues toyo isnt such a huge hack after all
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>Trunks beat Black(Merged Zamasu)
>Trunksfags go crazy.
>Trunks gets BTFO hard by WORLD OF ZAMASU and now has to live as someones doppelganger

>Vegeta beats Black
>Vegetafags go crazy
>Vegeta gets BTFO hard in the most embarrassing way possible

I am seeing a patern here.
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>>152427505
Tbh the vegeta thing has been a thing since vegeta became a antagonist.
> zenkai
> I am super sandwich
> gets btfo by frieza
Fast forward cell arc
> beats android 19
> get fucked by 18
Buu arc
> epic powerful suicide and greatest sign of character development
> buu resurrects like nothing happened
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>>152427556
Well like father and son then I guess.
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>>152427505
As a Trunksfag, I didn't get mad about the ending and I remember other anons didn't either. Even Trunks and Mai were OK with living with their alt selves anyway. And Universe Zamasu was too OP, so much that they had no choice but summon Zeno to deal with him, so it's very different from Vegeta losing to Black.
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>In Z, the two modes of fusion available were the dance and the potara fusion
>The difference was that the dance was weaker and temporary, while the potaro fusion was more complete but also permanent (except under very special circumstances), attaching grave consequences to the power surge

>In Super Potara fusion lasts only an hour
>Or five minutes if there's too much power present
Has Super confirmed that Gogeta is now stronger (or at least longer lasting) than Vegito, making Potara fusion a non-issue?
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>>152427505
>>Trunks gets BTFO hard by WORLD OF ZAMASU and now has to live as someones doppelganger
You know something is wrong when even masakoX thinks it was a trash ending. The guy usually is always positive about everything that is dragonball
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>>152427749
No Gogeta-Blue would also run out of time in a similar fashion like SSJ3 Gotenks did against Buu.
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>>152427804
MasakoX is starting to become of my favorite DBYoutubers.
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>>152427804
Can't wait to see how the manga will handle the ending.
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>>152427966
Please Toyo.
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But we all agree that Zeno isnt actually allmighty since he isnt above timelines right
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>>152427993
You're in luck familia.
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>>152428008
Toriyama will never make a God Almighty Prime Creator figure.
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>>152427993
Not a chance. In Xenoverse 2 Trunks had no idea who Golden Frieza was, and I think he didn't even recognize Beerus in 1, as well. There is a chance he could ignore Xenoverse and just connect to Online, but I extremely doubt it.
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>>152427749
>Has Super confirmed that Gogeta is now stronger (or at least longer lasting)
Gotenks using SSJ3 also reduced his fusion time to 5 minutes according to the Buu Saga. SSJB with the dance would likely only last one minute or something.
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>>152428049
I think he meant Trunks becoming a time patroller.
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>>152428146
SSJ3 uses far more energy than SSJB, especially since the kids never learned how to use it in otherworld and simply imitated goku
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Is everybody forgetting that it wasn't Blue that killed Vegetto, but the Final Kamehameha?
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>>152428163
>SSJ3 uses far more energy than SSJB
says who? Don't be fooled by the anime where they flanderize and spam abuse SSB, he clearly states to Hit in both mediums that it drains stamina rapidly.
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>>152428185
Perhaps the same could be said about why Vegeta is getting rekt after he blew his load this chapter?
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>>152428232
Nah vrgeta even took a senzu bean and got wrecked immediately even a fresh goku ssblue stood no chance.
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>>152428258
true.
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>>152426527
are you?
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>>152428049
I don't know anon. I think both Trunks' hair are supposed to be blue.

Toriyama always draws them with blue hair now and Toyotaro's colored art of Future Trunks so far has only shown him with blue hair.

Maybe kid Trunks having purple hair in volume 2 was just a random coloring choice.
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>>152428344
>Maybe kid Trunks having purple hair in volume 2 was just a random coloring choice.
It was Volume 1, and it's odd because it's manga's solid purple, not the same as anime-lavender.
Perhaps he can just sweep it under the rug as part of Super's new continuity that it's always been purple. (like how it's depicted in Toriyama's concept art)
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>>152428398
always been blue* (like in Toriyama's concept art in Bog)
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I hope the fuckers defeat Black and Zamazu in this chapter so the Multi Universe Tournament can start next month.
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>>152426527
Anime has 1 more trip than the manga already before resorting to using Mafuuba, Pre Ep 60 they forgot the senzu beans and wasted a trip on Ep 57. By Ep 64 they finally use the mafuuba.
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>>152428471
The leaks are out. The new arc won't start next month. They will need at least two more chapters to finish this arc.
It's also a shitty idea to rush it just to catch up with Toei.
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>>152428471
The manga ends with goku and vegeta going back because they jobbed. So we will have a few more chapters going on until the new arc kicks in. Better this way no need to rush shit up.
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>>152428471
Nah it won't happen, instead they'll just use Toyotaro's storyboards for the tv show now and that's what he meant when he stated that he'll be "ahead from now and relay information to them". Not that the actual monthly manga's publication schedule will speed up or anything.
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Hello my fellow 30 anons, what circlejerking are you up to with this thread?
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>>152428584
>Not that the actual monthly manga's publication schedule will speed up or anything.

People thought this was going to happen? kek
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>>152428398
>krillin and bulma aged worst these past few years
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>>152428709
No CJ-ing, just Blackfags getting their revenge on Vegetafags by the looks of it.
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>>152426571
>What did Toyo mean by this?

He simply confirmed something that was already obvious but you retards need absolutely EVERYTHING to be spelled out to you or else it's ''headcanon''
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Why is Toyo!Shin so alpha?
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>>152426651
Those faggots wont ever recover after this chapter
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>>152428731
Even that idiot Herms thought that was going to happen.
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>>152428756
>the lastest few DB threads
>not circlejerking

last thread reached bump limit and it only had 50 posters, this is pathetic
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>>152428769
delet this
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>>152428789
Seriously, who gives a fuck about the number of posters?
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>>152428789
> vegetafags got btfo
> powerlevel got btfo
> toeifags got btfo
> anti-rose fags got btfo
Too many people got exposed that only a few ones are left
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Vegeta got beat up pretty bad, but 18 humiliated him far more. I bet he'd screw up and lose against her even today just because of the PTSD.
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>>152428775
I wonder how are those anons who were fuming with rage saying Rose wouldn't happen in the manga.
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>>152428807
>>152428822

it's indicative of how much cancer the thread is, basically the majority of the DB fanbase on this board avoids these threads because they have reached full autism mass

and when it's always the same few people posting in a thread, it turns into circlejerking

look at the posts and the filenames, they are always the same in every thread
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>>152428789
I bet you're a salty vegetafag.
Reminder that black planned everything
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>>152428849
>when it's always the same few people posting in a thread, it turns into circlejerking
except it's not a circlejerk, link me some CJ posts dipshit or go back to /v/
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>>152428854
Nah I very much love Zamasu and all of his versions but these threads are pure cancer
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>>152426986
>tfw 17 and 18 are probably both going to job
>piccolo and tien are going to job too
>buu will probably disqualify himself due to him being more retarded than goku
>gohan and krillin will shine for a bit then get completely shit on

I hope they don't do that shit. It's always going to come down to Goku vs the strongest, but at least give the other non saiyans a good show.
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>>152428849
Whats your point?
Leaks came out a few hours ago + new design of GoD and an angel. People want to discuss stuff. Sry dragonball isnt popular on /a/ anymore now go back to your moe threads you neckbearded permavirgin
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>>152428896
>not getting the point

everyone left these threads because they got overrun by obnoxious autists
now all that is left is obnoxious autism and it fucking shows
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>>152428849
>it's indicative of how much cancer the thread is, basically the majority of the DB fanbase on this board avoids these threads because they have reached full autism mass
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>>152428927
>everyone left these threads
No they didn't, we had 200 IPs earlier when leaks were released, the number will rise up once again when the translations are released.
Finally, the anime where the higher number count of normies and crossboarders come here for the new episode once we get out of filler.
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>>152428886
If Toriyama did new designs for 17 and 18 it's because he wants to do something with them in the new arc
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>>152428958
No, you had 200 IPs when the new GoD was revealed, then as soon as the chapter leaked everyone bailed
Gee, I wonder what that means
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>>152428927
Dragonball threads have been on decline ever since the trunks arc ended. During the trunks arc it always averaged between 250+ even during non episode days. We are now in filler period. Manga is just stuff that we have seen already just told differently. Either way a lot of people dropped dbs and thats a fact. Threads have been averaging 80-40 posters for a while now
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>>152429023
No after the Zamasu saga ended these threads turned into this >>152425880 cancer and the majority left

>a lot of people dropped the DB threads and that's a fact

fixed that for you
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>>152428927
>obnoxious autism
I dont see powerlevel debate or canon debate or anime vs manga debate.
You're butthurt for no fucking reason faggot.
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>>152429023
high IP count for Saiyaman filler actually.
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>>152429106
based Gohan and Videl saving us from the autism
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So what's his name? Scotch?
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After this chapter it would be a good time to post doctor piccolo
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>>152429132
I swear if one of GoDs is a frog because of Kuk I'm gonna fly to Japan and kick Toriyama's ass
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>>152429106
Its was in the 130's still low especially during epsiode day
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I was hoping for a Egyptian birdman based on Horus or Ra.
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Episode 75 preview

Freeza comes back, AGAIN
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>>152429190
No more furries allowed
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Reminder that Toyotaro fucked powerlevels SO HARD that Super Saiyan Black = Super Saiyan Vegetto (due to both in base being stronger than SS3 Goku) > SUPER SAIYAN BLUE

SUPER VEGETTO STRONGER THAN BLUE
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>>152429181
>still low especially during epsiode day
Pretty sure it was higher, plus it's still filler.
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>>152429106
Because of Gohanfags who showed up to support "their boy". The hype died for the second Saiyaman episode, since it didn't have many IPs.
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>>152429215
(You)
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>>152429190
Don't worry anon, the dwarf GoD is most likely based on Bes so they are going for the Egyptian deities theme
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>>152429204
Fukkatsu no F2.
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>>152429215
The fuck is this guy talking about
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>>152429204
We already knew you idiot, Goku and Krillin go to some forest to pick up some herb for training and see old enemies

Aka they get so high they allucinate
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>>152429227
The second episode was trash though
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>>152429218
Nah it was around 100 and several of those IP s were mine actually
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>>152425766
He pulled an aizen on us.
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>>152429247
I was reading into Bes from earlier and yeah this could totally work but I'd love to see oldschool deities.
The original Veerus by Toei was a crocodile dude, it would be pretty neat to recreate him as Sobek.
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>>152429254
Super Vegetto is stronger than SSB Vegeta.
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Interesting

I thought Botamo and Magetta were bigger
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>>152429204
Huh. Even Vegeta and Piccolo will be among the enemies too? Kind of surprising. I wonder if Tenshinhan, 17 and 18 will be there too, considering their upcoming appearance in the tournament.
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>>152429355
>crocodile dude who's based on Sobek

Who do you think the big GoD is?
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>>152429370
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>>152429218
Nope, it barely surpassed 100 IPs. I remember it.
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>>152429373
I wonder if best couple will be there too
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>>152429382
I wan to say it could possibly be some hippo like god. In Egypt, that's Taweret though a goddess.
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>>152429418
>big GoD is female

I kinda want this now
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>>152429382
The big guy's going to be the GoD of the FORth YOUniverse.
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I think it's safe to expect a bird GoD and a doggo GoD
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This are your god of destruction.
Bes is the new faggot
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>>152429418
>>152429424
I could see it happen.
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>>152429370
Ohlala
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>>152429453
THIS
Cant wait for sexy iris
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>>152429453
Anubis beerus and champa
Bes the new confirmed god
Lets see anon
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>>152429370
Hit's a big guy.
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>>152427416
herms the faggot trying to discredit vegeta
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>>152429511
>Anubis beerus and champa
are you implying that Beerus takes the slot of Anubis? designwise he may be similar but if they were to do the whole Egyptian pantheon thing there's definitely space for a real jackal-dog dude since Beerus is just a cat.
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>>152428398
Mother of god, that young Bulma with the "wild rider suit".
I didn't apreciated her enough during my DB days.
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>>152428830
It's too bad Vegeta wasn't the one to fight Zangya in the Bojack movie. Not many people would job to a hot girl twice in such a short time, only Vegeta can do that.
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>>152429544
>herms the faggot trying to discredit vegeta
Its said in the page you reposted in.Just stating facts.
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>>152429544
Nah he probably just never saw that specific page like this dude said.>>152427485
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>>152429453
> 6furries
> 1 chick
Why toryiama why couldnt you base your gods to greek mythology
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>>152428769
The reaction and combination of these 3 goofs is so fucking good.
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>>152429661
Especially this life linked duo. To
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>>152429589
The 18 flashbacks would be hilarious too. Especially since Zangya looks and fights like 18. Lucky Vegeta! Although he jobbed to someone else so it's the same in the end.
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>>152429453
Horus is the god of sun right? What is osiris all about?
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>>152429678
Toei needs to take notes.*
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>>152429693
Osiris is the god of death.
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>>152429693
Osiris is the God of the Underworld, he is high ranking in the original pantheon as a father figure. He is also the original wincest god, he married his sister Isis.
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>>152429481
Is Vados a pedo?
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>>152429710
>>152429715
We already know who is going to be the shady GoD
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MEGA ULTRA CHICKEN GOD OF DESTRUCTION WHEN
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>>152429749
In Egyptian Pantheon, Osiris is one of the highly regarded Gods. If you want evil shady god go with Seth (or Set). The backstabber who killed Osiris
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>>152429288
Just like the first one.
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>>152429833
>hating on Cocoa
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>>152429544

I don't know who that faggot Herms is, but Vegeta pretty much discredits himself.
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>>152429735
I think Cabba is an adult
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>>152429848
Who?
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>>152429848
>Memecasty
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>>152429873
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>>152429883
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>>152429864
And the Time Kaioshin have million and million of years but if you want fuck her you are a pedo, so?
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>>152429888
Is that your OC, anon?
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>>152427409
That's a good question. Probably something something witches magic
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>>152429910
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i want a Obelisk GoD for that fist of fate hakai.
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>>152429910
hahaha what the fuck
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>>152429910
ya winning son?
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Post the shitty fanart GoDs
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>>152427409
You just need 1 of 2 to be a Kai, same goes for Shin+Kibito.
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>>152429964
GODDO HANDO CURASHAAAAAAAAA!!!
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>>152429453
Konshu is said to be the creator of time.
Manga says about some dude being the first to time travel in U12.
Konshu will be GoD of U12.
Screencap this
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>>152429999
i gotchu familia. After i post this milf angel.
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>>152429999
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>>152429985
Looks like Vegeta isn't winning.
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>>152430070
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>>152426889

They also specifically said it was something they made up for their comic though. I don't see why people think it's canon
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>>152429453
Sehkmet is a girl
Beerus waifu confirmed
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>>152430038
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>>152430127
>>
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>>152430112
Nope bast is beerus waifu
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>>152430146
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Dicasty will be the new toyo in 20years
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>tfw Dabura was king of the Demon realm and he's already fucking dead
>Dragon Ball equivalent of Satan is gone
>not going to get final villain that's full on 666 demonic death metal anti-zeno with a more badass design than Ozotto
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>>152430190
yeah but for cheap mexican porn only.
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>>152430159
Chichi BLACKED
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>>152430190
only if u say "hi" to me anon
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>>152430208
We are all mexicans here so who cares she is our new toyo
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>>152430190
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>yfw this is canon
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>>152430250
>she
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>>152430288
This is canon :^)
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>>152430263
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>>152430309
>these facial expressions
what did he mean by this?
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>>152430355
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>>152430355
He just traces a bunch of different screenshots to create his cancerous pics.
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>>152426361
Now, I haven't gone through all the posts yet, so if someone already said it (not much chance of that I expect) correct me, but it's my totally original opinion (donut steele) that Super Saiyain Blue isn't meant to be all about offense. Black fucked Vegeta up, and he'd do the same to Goku. SSGSS or by it's dumber name SSB, may be about a less immediately violent aspect of battle, but no less amazing. It's like Red or Blue armor in late game LttP, you get offense or defense. In this case, the defense is that instead of punching things REALLY HARD ARRRGGH you manipulate the environment. Maybe Vegeta pulls someone's blood out of their body by their orifices, maybe he telepathically gives them a stroke, maybe he calls down a hurricane or tornadoes, maybe he straight up forces nature to attack his opponents.
>Bulbasaur Vegeta get's no respect from the casual edgelords
>Vegeta cast Leech Seed

What, you saw anime Black being comparatively nuanced instead of beam spamming.
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>>152430355
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>>152430421
Thats the most autistic and saltiest vegetfag ever
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>>152430421
now this is some next level autism.
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>>152426553
Gowasu confirmed for elitist 1% Kaoishin, probably a lobbyist for the Chaos Gods.
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Not a dragonball fan but some guy I is trying to make dragonball threads banable on /a/ so be careful to not fall for baits and sperg out.
Cheers lads
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>>152430467
Screaming faggot get's boring fast, man.
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>>152430506
are you talking about this faggot?>>152428927
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>>152430466
Should I have said [insert character]? Whoever, let's just see some creativity or at least have tectonic plates start shifting during fights. Everyone has god powers, no one causing the apocalypse but a guy with a silly mohawk.
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>>152430542
Also this guy here >>152430404
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>>152428008
He wil have parents no doubt. that or his parents are the devil or something.

>>152428789
I baited most of them. Dont worry they did not enjoy those threads. They were seething with hatred at my faggotry. Onnly circle jerking that happened was autism

>>152428876
I can see why its like this. Its far too easy to bait them, when actual discussion goes ignored while manga vs anime or power level shit is all people talk about here.

>>152429082
at the start we had GT vs Super threads. That was some serious bullshit. But yes generally when there is no new material these threads are ass.

>>152430242
hi anonare you a janitor for DB?

>>152430506
its for the best honestly.
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>>152430421
Wow lol this guy must be extra butthurt.
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>>152430582
Thats just sad. To bad some mods on /a/ are huge dbfags. So that will never happen
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>>152430589
I agree that the threads are shit when there's no new material, but if it bothers you or anyone else so much then just don't come here. It's that simple.
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>>152426825
Let's hit the showers.
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Reminder that these two characters are better than every almost every character introduced in Dragon Ball.
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>>152430589
Did you jusy respond to yourself?
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>>152430736
Yes. is that a jojo reference?
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>>152430578
Alright I will give you a legitimate response. They are laughing at your expense and will only entice you to continue for their amusement.

You are overthinking this. DB is not complicated. It is quite straight forward. Is there inconsistency? Yes. But trying to figure out an answer when the creators honestly do not care is the definition of autism.

You will have an aneurysm at this rate trying to formulate coherency of power structure in DB. It is not important anymore, at least not in the Super generation.

Other sides might entertain your ideas, but mostly all you will get is their fan-fiction version. In short don't over think it. And if it really bothers start your own DB series if autism too strong.
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>>152429568
>Beerus:Anubis sempai, Anubis sempai!
I brought you some of this Earth food called Pizza! Am I kawaii now?
>Anubis:We have that in our Universe Beerus, but yes you're still my #1 Kawaii Fan
>Beerus: Nyaaaaaar~n
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>>152430959
This post has cured my insomnia. Who are you magic man?
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Anime fags wont ever recover
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>>152431165
recover from what?
Anime is the superior version. all you manga fags got btfo
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>>152431222
>all you manga fags got btfo
The manga is and will always be vastly superior then your filler riddled garbage that is an excuse of an anime
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>>152431165
Guys, listen.

U6 under Vados really wanted three things.
>The right to be the loudest and most obnoxious universe in the tournament.
>The right to completely ignore multiversal consensus and leave everybody else to pick up the pieces.
>The right to forge your own path freely and independently.
They're the same as U7, and asking them to be blindly obedient to Whis after The Forgotten Lol Wars would be like asking Beerus to obey Champa until manga fags and anime fags learn to cooperate. We're the same, and that's why we can't get along.
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>>152431222
Wasted
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>>152431302
>wut?
Filler is the cream of the crop of this series. Fuck off
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>>152431389
Pedro sit down
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>>152431475
feels good to see gohan able to sustain SSJ again
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>>152431475
HARAMBEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>152431496
Gohan never had porblems turning ssj thats a stupid toei invention.
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>>152431496
Feels not so good we haven't talked about him only doing so as GSM against a giant meme frog.
Kinda makes you think.
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>>152425884
Have to agree here, but Dragonball Super is one of the lowest forms of writing I have seen in a while. Its comedy can be alright at times, but that doesn't excuse the lazy and shitty storytelling they put out.
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>>152431165
Toyo always fixes everything in the end
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>>152431475
u are stupid dont talk me like dat im not from south americ im from india we are not fatass like u murricams piss me off keep telling me pedro or ramiro or chacho why ? smiths and dicks like u are so violent and angry gahba pka tiH!

i tell u what cos this thing u hate us when we say we love super ANIME there is good everything but you are made at us.

plz kill meselfdata:image/svg+xml,<svg xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg' width='300' height='57'/>
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>>152431595
when will he fix the dumb eyeliner
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>>152431605
Thats one salty ass paco
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>>152431605
Stfu rajesh
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>>152431595
Ah manly strong guy and not some flamboyant faggot.
Manga always win
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>>152431645
super is OK nothing bad just be NICE to me OK
Bhoot-nee ka NICE
>>152431676
Bhandava India beuatiful stop this!
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>>152429453
I just see 11

Is becase beerus and champa are brothers?
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>>152431716
Since you are probably falseflagging I combine both races you are trying to be.
You are officially a filipino
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>>152431628
>dumb eyeliner
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>>152431595
Fuck why is manga black so god damn sexy
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>>152431762
Kutta you are a flag i love women indian women are very good like super!
Jaan var be nice good things happen plz K Chup Kar

>>152431764
vigita favorite we love here
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are you guys ready
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>>152431843
>Needs to be calm to get SSB
>Broly
>Calm
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This chapter got everyone shut their stupid mouth. Now that all this autistic fags got exposed they say the threads are cancerous.
Keep up the shitpost lads you guys are comedy pure.
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>>152431934
MFW he got the Dabura treatment in the afterlife and comes back a good guy.
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Full chapter
http://www.bleachnews.com/dragon-ball-super-chapitre-scan-020-vf/
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>>152431987
he can't cause he ain't canon
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>>152432057
>implying toei gives a fuck about canon
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>>152431939
Animefags on suicide watch
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>>152431605
here's your (you)
dont try so hard next time
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>>152432057
toei can do whatever the fuck they want and that includes bringing in movie villains
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>>152432075
toei isn't calling the shots anymore
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>>152432144
>>152432155
Anime will have you grovel at your pathetic stubby toes once dragon ball room animation kicks in you fucks. Your manga is slow as shit with no animation at all. Tracing is everywhere(no that is not a homage lol)
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Just a reminder that Superman > Goku, and power levels in Dragon Ball are shit.
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>>152432265
Just a reminder that powerlevelfags like you are cancer
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Is it just me or is Krillin really small now? He's about the size he was in dragonball. Did 18 secretly wish Krillin would get younger?
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>>152432265
>able to bust the universe with a punch
>can't lift 1k tons
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>>152432265
>>>/co/

>>152432335
>>>/lgbt/
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>>152432325
>tfw 18 will never crush your dragonballs
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>>152432265
can Beerus lift Magetta?
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>>152432335
>posting facebook frog
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>>152432325
He was always small
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>>152432384
He is actually only 2cm smaller than Vegeta
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>>152432325
Super made him smaller
compare his current size in relation to the other characters to his size back in the Buu saga
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>>152432187
do you feel in-charge?
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>>152432335

SSJ God >> SSJ in the manga though. It's only the anime where it's SSJ1 (post-God absorption) = SSJ God.

Also, technically, in the manga, the universe was only threatened during the beam clash with Beerus.
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>>152432395
Read the manga, his size changes all the time
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>>152432450
What if Krillin's size is bound to his power level?
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>>152432475
He's to big for that to be true.
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>>152432514
Is he really that weak in Super?
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>>152432554
his strength is like 1/2000000000 of Gokus
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>>152432554
>Is he really that weak
the answer is always yes.
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22 episodes into super and I gotta wonder

why is gohan such a jobber again? you would think after buu that he would train again just in case. even then it hasn't even been that much time between buu to freeza as it was from cell to buu so why is he so fucking weak?

did super make uub and the last episodes of z not happen? why does satan look so fucking scrawny? why is freeza surprised when they told him that goku beat buu when he saw it in hell? why is freezas hell different from in Z? why is the animation so bad? why am I watching this? does the manga make me not wanna question life?
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Ok so here is my wtf. This chapter ends with trunks getting raped by black. How the fuck will he get out of there alive after goku and vegeta left his ass rot with both zamasus?
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reminder that Tien sucks Krillin's cock so hard his mouth have the same suction power as a black hole
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>>152432606
>Gohan
A cruel prank that went way too far.
>Uub and end of Z
Still uncertain how they will handle it but Uub got mentioned by Goku already.
>Satan
Everyone is scrawny.
>Freeza
Anime filler and anime filler.
>bad animation
Toei.
>why am I watching this
Why am I?
>manga
It's a bit better and has non-retard Goku.
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Why did toryiama make future gohan so weak ?
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>>152432700
Because it makes more sense the OVA
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>>152432658
Tear gas
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>>152432615
>Not BLACKED
For shame
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>>152432700
cause no early time chamber training with goku on his own he only able to go that far it's the same deal with trunks.
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>>152432700
>when future Trunks defeats Frieza, his strength is about the same as future Gohan's
>SS Goku stops his sword using one fucking finger

Is future Gohan even weaker than Namek-Goku? Because looks like
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>>152432800
Edit please.
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>>152432658


SSJ Ikari, if its Toriyamas idea, then the shitstorm is going to be legendary.
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>>152432833
i would say future trunks a little stronger than future gohan, but not that much.
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>>152432862
just waiting for ssj rage to appear in the manga as well
hd scans when?
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>>152429132
rule 34 when?
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>>152425712
Maybe he used all his energy on the final flash before Zamasu appeared
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>>152432862
SSA defeating Zamasu makes sense in the manga so I'm buying it as a Tori idea
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>>152432658
>>152432862
>>152432900
I hope not, it's the worst concept out there.
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>>152432949
He got a senzu from goku. Still got his ass kicked right after.
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>>152432658
Zamasu will bully trunks. Trunks gets triggered and transform into the legendary tumblrxreddit the conqueror of 4chan ssj rage.
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>>152431563
Didn't Gohan said that on the movie too?
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>>152432325
>the two manlets of the dragon ball universe get the two best dragon ball girls
How is this possible? Did 4chan lie to me about manlets?
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>>152433026
No he said he hasnt trained but could still turn ssj.
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>>152428994
This,that thread was actually pretty ok ,but after the leaks were released it suddenly turned into a shitpostin fest.
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Reminder that Gohan is still way stronger than Piccolo even without training. Piccolo couldn't damage Ginyu at all and got his hand severed, while SSJ Gohan effortlessly defeated him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B10DjKaZFSI

Gohan is gonna be a beast now that he's been training.
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>>152432949
The leaks are already translated, Black was holding back to get a zenkai. Pre-zenkai SS Black is totally stronger than SS2 "boosted" Vegeta and post-zenkai SS Black is stronger than SSB Vegeta, that's all.
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>>152426986
I'm glad he's not a dog or some other animal shit
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>>152433026
I blame toei for making gohan look like total trash
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Reminder that Gohan ultimate state is back in the anime and manga Gohan never lost it at all, since there's no Golden Freeza arc in DBS manga
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>>152432982
>>152433130
Toyo is trully a ningen
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>>152433191
Golden frieza is still canon
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>>152433191
RoF is canon in the manga since ts mentioned in the super manga. Toyo just skipped it.
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I hate all that Gohan teasing. Either give him a reasonable level of strength or leave him be a family man. Weak and jobbing Gohan is so sad to watch.
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>>152433215
> implying this wasnt a superb troll from toryiama-sama himself
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>>152431595

when does the translation comes out?
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>>152430127
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>>152433142
No you cant - TOEI
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>>152429519
4U
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>>152433235
>>152433232
Golden Freeza invasion is canon, but Gohan losing his ultimate state isn't established in the manga, the arc can work with ultimate Gohan instead SS Gohan just like work with SSG Goku instead "beyond god" Goku. So basically there's no reasons to think Gohan lost his state in the manga, he just appears as ultimate Gohan in Beerus saga and appears as ultimate again in Zeno tournament
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>>152432862
>Ikari

Why the weeb name? Just call it "anger" or "rage"
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>>152433367
>losing his ultimate state isn't established in the manga
Vegeta asked goku to take him for the u6 tournament. Goku said he doesnt train or fight anymore. Maybe its not directly implied but super manga still follows the events of RoF.
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>>152429936
No, it's a OC made by Toei, you need to watch the latest episodes.
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>>152432800
This, please.
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>>152433337
Hello I'm Dicasty and I've never seen a woman's body, also I don't know how clothes work
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>>152433544
You realize that you are on /a/ right
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>>152432606
Time travel doomsday scenario, why can't you p a y a t t e n t i o n ? ? ?
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>>152433429
>"rage"
"Anger" is in at least a URL from DBH official site, "rage" is just an unofficial translation trying to avoid "anger" because autism. SSA is the only right translation so far (also "SSR" is already used to say "SS Rose", why anyone would find two "SSR" better than use SSA and SSR?)
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>>152433471
tfw she is the idol that's going to live close to Beerus castle
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My name is Billschamp, I have no equal!
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>>152433471
>not getting it
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Why didnt kaioshin use this shit to steal babidi's energy jar away from him?
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>>152433471
Nobody needs to watch that shit.

>>152433669
Because he is incompetent.
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>>152433470
>Goku said he doesnt train or fight anymore
But lose the state because lack of training isn't a thing established in the manga series, only in the anime versions (series and movie) and manga one shots from the movie

>super manga still follows the events of RoF
But Goku doesn't have SSG's power in his base state, which is a change even bigger than not make Gohan lost his ultimate form (because he will recover it after all) so...
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>>152433669
Because Kaoishin sucks at his job. Like all the gods in DB do.
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>>152433429
You never read that fanfic where Raditz crash lands in Tokyo-3, did you?
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>>152433669
>Why Zamasu's powers are above Shin's?
really nigga
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>>152433669
Asking that of a guy whose idea was to let babidis henchmen steal gohans energy instead of capturing them and having goku read their minds.
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>>152433806
Don't give TFS ideas.
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>>152433669
Can zamasu read minds though?
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>>152433704
It's not Jelly Vegeta tier of terrible or Goku vs Hit of dumb, so it's worth
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>>152433806
And it would have worked if Vegeta wasnt a massive retard
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>>152433858
>can read minds
>never does ANYTHING with it
Goku and Kaioshin a shit confirmed
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>>152433858
Kai's have so many asspull techniques yet they are so incredible incompetent.
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>>152426986
'E's a bloody leprechaun 'e is.
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>SSJ2 Trunks = SSJ3 Goku
>SSJ Black >>> Vegeta Blue
>mangacucks will defend this
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>>152434066
>PreZenkai Base black > ssj2 trunks
Nothing wrong lad
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>>152434066
Nothing to defend there since everything is alright
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>>152434066
Base black >>> SSB Vegeta
Toeicucks will defend this
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>>152433951
Kami and his tower was the same. Broken shit all over the place yet he gets easily mopped up by King Piccolo's kid.
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I'm back anons, it's been a while
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>>152427409
He's a Kaioshin
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>>152432900
Haven't watched Super but isn't Super Saiyan Rage super fucking redundant?

What's next, Super Saiyan Yellow?
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>>152433864
It's still terrible and only worth it if you like Gohan. Otherwise no.
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>>152433858
>each could have felled frieza with a single blow
>all those innocents dead/planets destroyed
>not one of them did anything to stop him
Useless fucking Kais.
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Can someone please tell me what is going on in the manga?

Did SS Black ACTUALLY beat SSB Vegeta?
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>>152434203
It is but it's the only official name we have.
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>>152434277
Yes because he got a massive zenkai.
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>>152434066
>base Black is stronger than SS3 Goku
>SS Black being stronger than SSB Vegeta is wrong
How?
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>>152434277
In chapter 19 vegeta manhandles black right? Well in this chapter its revealed black let himself get fucked by vegeta to get a zenkai boost. Means he was actually holding back. After black got his zenkai he proceeds to fuck vegeta in ssj and ssrose to knock him the fuck out for good. He does the same thing with goku until trunks uses the solar flare to bail both of them out
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>>152434277
Vegeta's role in the story is to job so Goku, or in this case trunks looks more impressive when they beat X villian.
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Holy shit, and here i thought Toyo couldn't fuck up the manga more

> SS2 Trunks >= SS3 Goku
> SS2 Trunks loses to Base Black
> SS2 Vegeta > SS1-SS2 Black

Now we have:
> SSB Vegeta <<< Zenkai SS1-2 Black

What the actual fuck
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>>152433669
That's a much better way of dealing with the Senzu beans that "lol I left them in the bathroom". I don't really care about majority of differences between the manga and anime and I enjoy them both. But Toei turning Goku into a full blown retard always bothered me. Even Teen Goku was more mature.
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>>152434277
And Trunks is about to become a Manchurian Candidate. Let's Make The Universe Zero Mortals Again!!
Haven't read scans, assuming they will actually rape Trunks.
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>>152434203
Its not redundant because its a special form which only trunks achieves that mixes his unmastered GodKi with his natural Super Saiyan Ki
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>>152434353
Based Black
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>>152434309
>>152434353

A zenkai boost as a SS1 doesn't make it stronger than SS2, let alone SSB.

Fuck man Toyo had the chance to fix the damage he did last chapter. He somehow actually made things WORSE
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>>152434368
>> SS2 Vegeta > SS1-SS2 Black
Black was losing on purpose for the zenkai. Black was already stronger then vegeta in that moment
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>>152430159
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>>152434430
Maybe this will calm down those autists arguing in every thread about the anime vs manga.
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>>152434430
>He somehow actually made things WORSE
Did you not read my post ? Black lost against vegeta on purpose the first time. Aka holding back. From what we know is that ssblack was actually already stronger then ssvegeta at that point but didnt show it to bait vegeta into beating him up for the zenkai to achieve ssr and his full potential
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>>152434430
>Fuck man Toyo had the chance to fix the damage he did last chapter.
the previous chapter was fine though
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>>152434432
Doesn't matter.

The point is Black didn't even NEED to get a zenkai to beat Vegeta. He should've easily beaten SS2 Vegeta already.
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>>152430421
>SSGSS or by it's dumber name SSB
here's your (you)
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>>152434277
>>152434309
>Did SS Black ACTUALLY beat SSB Vegeta?
Yes.

>because he got a massive zenkai
No.

Next chapter confirms Black was holding back to get a zenkai, so the power scale from chapter 16 is right. Base Black is above SS2 Trunks and SS3 Goku, and SS Black is even stronger than "boosted" SS2 Vegeta.
After receive the zenkai, SS Black isn't only stronger than SS2 Rageta, is pretty equal to SSB Vegeta. Makes sense this is what happens when a guy stronger than SS3 Goku in his BASE state goes SS (his godly form multiplier is probably lesser than SSB's, though, but that's is only speculation)
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>>152434492
>Black lost against vegeta on purpose the first time. Aka holding back.

Why? SS1 Black should've been more than enough for SS2 Vegeta. He should've never even needed a zenkai boost
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>>152434533
If he did that he wouldnt be able to get the zenkai boost to transform into ssr.
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>>152434573
He needed the Zenkai to reach Rose
Which is why he kept talking about not having reached it yet
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>>152434454
>dicasty managed to make black look retarded as fuck
Amazing.
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>>152434573
It is explained that he wanted the zenkai boost to achieve his full potential to get ssr. Thats it. Of course he could have beaten vegeta there but zamasu wanted the perfect body. Thats why
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>>152434539
Zamasu using force drain instead of Kaioken.
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People defending this shit with "Black was holding back for a zenkai" obviously don't understand how retarded it is that Black was looking for a boost to beat someone he should've beaten easily (SS2 Vegeta)
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>>152434277

>being confused that someone who is stronger than SSJ2/SSJ3s in his base form would be equal to SSB in his SSJ/SSJ2 state AFTER also getting a huge fucking Zenkai from it

Where did this notion come from that SSG/SSB are literally MILLIONS of times stronger than the regular SSJ forms? That's a load of shit.
>>
Why would black need vegeta for the zenkai
just let zamasu slap you around a bit
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>>152434601
Inner city schools crack dealer Goku
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>>152428830
>finally achieve super saiyan being brought to his lowest point
>gets arm broken by earthling woman
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>>152434582
>>152434590

Again, he should've never even needed rose. Why humiliate yourself for no reason?
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>>152434665
Something about pain. The stronger the oppenent the bigger the boost.
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>>152434688
Because he is thinking of the greater plan, the fight itself never mattered to him
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>>152434628
I meant that as a standalone post.
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>>152434640
>not wanting to get stronger

ok
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>>152434640
But pre-zenkai SS Black can't defeat SSB Vegeta, and Goku is around there too so cheat his enemies to get a zenkai and become stronger saved Black's ass
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>>152434662
I mean, if you take a look how SSJ3 was fodderized where SSG could keep up, it's pretty close to being a fuck-huge multiplayer.
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>>152434688
In the manga its revealed he wants to overthrow all different timelines and for that he needs a body strong enough to handle GoD
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> Toyo-hack implying a mere zenkai boost can bring you from SS1 to SSB(SSR)

What the fuck??

Weren't mangafags complaining about ridiculous zenkai boosts in the anime?

THIS one puts it to shame
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>>152434722

Sure SSG could fodderize SS3 in one hit of course, but Beerus was also confirmed to be holding back massively during his fight with SSG Goku.

If we're going there, I'd probably place SSG at 10-20x stronger than SS3. That's easily enough to 1-shot the lower power.
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>>152434688
Black wants to conquer all alternate timelines he is thinking ahead. He needs to be strong because he probably wont be as lucky in other timelines with a already dead beerus.
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>>152434665
Maybe Black needs feel SSGSS's power to reach his SSGSS form
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>>152434760
Now watch him bring in Jelly Vegeta competently.
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>>152434760
I get Black losing on purpose to get SSR

But having one zenkai bringing him from SS1 to SSB levels is just ridiculous
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>>152434760

It's explained rather succinctly. I'm sorry Toeifag but once again you've failed to make the manga look bad.

SS1/SS2 Black (whatever the transformation is) has ALWAYS been stronger than SS2 Vegeta.

He held back and lowered his ki so Vegeta could fuck him up and give him a huge boost. SS2 Vegeta and SS/SS2 Black were never on equal footing.
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>>152434760
Power levels stopped existing after Freeza's second form. Then it was just "how much stronger/weaker than X is he"

That is why zenkai boosts ended up being fucking stupid, like Vegeta going from 24,000 to 36,000 and then all the way to like 3 million in two boosts.
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>>152434781
oh yeah definitely.
SSG is 10-20 times stronger than SSJ3, but then blue itself is between 5-10 times stronger than SSG.
So doing the minmal here SSB is 50 times SSJ3, so he'd be equal with black here. if you wanna high-ball it, it be 200 times SSJ3.
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>>152434760
Mangafags are never allowed to complain about "stupid zenkai boosts" in the anime ever again
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>>152429390
Goku and Vegeta have gotten too tall. They're almost not manlets anymore.
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>>152434818
Zenkai is completely plot convenient.
One time vegeta went from 18.000 to 24000. Goku from 180.000 with kaioken to 3million.
Cell second form to super perfect cell
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>>152434818
We're on a schedule, assume he was thinking of Gowasu the whole time and going "please Dad don't hit me anymore".
>It'sGowasuTime.gif
>"No dad NO"
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>>152434688
>he should've never even needed rose
Before the zenkai Black probably can't beat SSB Vegeta even in his SS form so get a zenkai (+ new form) was the right choice

Also
>humiliate yourself for no reason
Even if pre-zenkai SS Black was stronger than SSB Vegeta, there's a reason, become even stronger. Black needs even more power if he wants kill all ningens from all timelines, there's more god tier adversaries, not only Goku and Vegeta.
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>>152434877
>goofy is furious
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>>152426603
Its both.
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>>152434831
That's not the point

This is a zenkai boost that brought Black from SS1 to SSB.

And the manga makes SSG it's own form. So according to the manga, one zenkai boost made Black jump FOUR SS levels.

That's fucking stupid
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>>152426784
>He gave his all in his fight against goku.
>Literally does more and shits out little cells afterwards

Nope
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>>152434851
Sry but getting stronger by a couple of punches => bad zenkai
Experiencing near death = good zenkai.
As for powerlevel boost it has always bern random as fuck even in the original manga see>>152434869
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>>152434943
>one zenkai boost made Black jump FOUR SS levels.

How does one defend this?
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>>152434760
>Toyo-hack implying a mere zenkai boost can bring you from SS1 to SSB(SSR)
No..? Because SS Black was already stronger than any Goku/Vegeta not godly form, is already confirmed he was holding back.

>Weren't mangafags complaining about ridiculous zenkai boosts in the anime?
Funny you mention them, because the whole thing about anime-Black ridiculous zenkai is that isn't a fucking zenkai, he doesn't need be nearly to death as other saiyans (and manga-Black), he just becomes stronger every time he's punched, isn't about how powerfull each "zenkai" makes him, but how stupid are those "zenkais"
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Zenkai boosts were a mistake
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>>152434954
>Experiencing near death = good zenkai

I agree. But not to jump 4 fucking SS levels
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>>152434943
>SS1 to SSB.
pre zenkai Base black is already above a goku ssj3 tier.
Zenkai boost are plot convenient anyway since the very concept of its creation.
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>>152434999
>Because SS Black was already stronger than any Goku/Vegeta not godly form, is already confirmed he was holding back.

That doesnt mean anything. Not the point.

Point is: a zenkai did not boost SS1 Black to SS2. Not even SS3. But SSB.
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>>152426378
Will Tori and Toei ever stop their grudge for this poor nigga?
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Animefags bitching about the huge zenkai boost when black got fucked by a ssj2 goku and come back as ssrose and stronger then goku amd vegeta. Try and defend this faggots
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>>152435002
Not paying attention to this threads absurdity is the bigger mistake.
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>>152434943
>>152434977

Are you two literally retarded? Is watching too much Toeishit rotting your brains?

Black's "SS1" was never at a fucking SS1 level. It was far stronger than SS3 already and probably near/at SSG levels. That's the entire fucking point, and how a single Zenkai can make him believably stronger than SSB.

I guess it's true what they say, people who watch TV really are idiots.
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>>152434943
>FOUR SS levels
You know SS2 and SS3 are (according to Toriyama itself) only subforms of regular SS, right? SS, SSG and SSB are the only forms (and isn't sure ting about SSG, because Vegeta doesn't need it, maybe the only "main forms" are SS and SSB).
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>all these people forgetting that zamasu stole gokus post universe tournament body

He was already able to transform into god form.

He just doesnt know how.
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>>152431475
Had to go SSJ against a human strengthened by a parasite

baka gohan
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>>152435012
>pre zenkai Base black is already above a goku ssj3 tier.
See: >>152435059


> Zenkai boost are plot convenient anyway since the very concept of its creation.
So NOW mangafags are defending stupidly exaggerated zenkais. My how the tides have turned...
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>>152435093
>Black's "SS1" was never at a fucking SS1 level
It's still HIS SS1

He still jumped his own "SS2", and "SS3"
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>>152435130
Jumping your power from a times 50 to what's probably a times 10000 or more is pretty fucking insane for a single zenkai m8.
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Fuck your anime vs manga wars motherfuckers, who gives a shit? What matters is the based ningen slayer duo is back and more glorious than ever. We get more months to enjoy these fantastic autistic motherfuckers
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>suddenly zenkai boosts are relevant again

toriyama a hack as always

can he at least finally give the humas something to be on par?
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>>152434261
THEY WERE FUCKING DEAD AGES BEFORE FREEZE POP WERE A THING
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Zamasu unironically enjoying a bowl of Dippin' Dots
>(Perhaps the ningens have a future after all.)
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Krillin has PTSD again.
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>>152435136
THIS
ZAMASU GOT THE BODY OF A GOKU THAT WAS ALREADY ABLE TO SS3 AND SSD

You guys forget about everything
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>>152435167
Zenkai boost were never constant in the original manga? So whats your point?
Also Black has a post u6 goku body which already turned ssblue. Zamasu only needed the zenkai to get out every potential of it.
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>>152435186

Do you somehow think certain levels of power are locked behind SSJ forms?

Don't be a fucking retard.
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>>152435216
SSG*
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>>152435194
OKAY THAT WAS MY MISTAKE THERE ANON PLEASE FORGIVE ME
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>>152435194
Nuh uh.
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>>152435136
THIS
Black even says he only baited vegeta for the zenkai to utilise goku's body in its full potential.
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>>152432700
1 arm, no 3 years or time chamber training, can barely train without notifying the androids were you are, no RAGE.
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>Congratulations on your third clean year, Son.
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>>152435211
Is Vegeta going to job?

Also man, I'm really glad Piccolo is going to show up, shame it probably means Demon King Piccolo won't be
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>>152435059
>a zenkai didn't boost this god in SS form to SS2 or SS3 form, but the godly SSB form
So? Also see >>152435130

>>152435189
See >>152434869
Also Zamasu (Black) is a god, why can't be easier for him get the godly form of SSs?

>>152435167
>stupidly exaggerated zenkais. My how the tides have turned...
Looks like you actually didn't read >>152434999 if you don't even understand why Black's zenkais are so wrong in the anime
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Black was already close to Rose
Simple as that, both he and zamasu hinted at him almost having achieved THAT form last chapter
And Trunks already mentioned that Black used SSJ2 against him
Also Vegeta never achieved SSJ3 either
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>>152435388
>>152435388
>>152435388

move
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>>152435339
I'd be fine if he went rose then kicked Vegeta's ass, heck i' be fine with regular god too desu.
But staying in SSJ1 and jumping up 2000 times your own power from a zenkai with 0 training is bullshit.
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I'm just gonna post Whis to escape all of this.
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>>152435335
Vegeta's too miles mannered for this.
>Time Breaker Vegeta when
Unlike that pussy sellout hero Superman, Dr. Bees can and will solve this tangle of conundrums.
Badumtssh. Seriously, why stalk me for such low gains my guy?
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Remember that one time CHIAOTZU was a threat?
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>>152435499
What the fuck are talking about
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>>152435252
>>152435216
PEDRO SAN???!!!
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>>152435451
>>152435451
How about you post my """bail""".
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>>152432325
He's supposed to be only a head shorter than Goku. Remember that when he looks nearly as tall as Trunks and Goten.
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>>152432395
>2cm

Try 10cm. He's 5', Vegeta is 5'4 or 5'5.
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>>152433669
This is one piece rip off
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