What's going on at crunchyroll? they suddenly fired 90%

Was just about to ask this actually, all of my friend's CR contacts just got laid off.

I'm trying to figure out what it means but I can't come up with anything and there's no news of it besides firsthand reports

>>152411449
Source? Maybe they'll hire someone more competent.

>>152411449
paid streaming doesn't work when you can just go to kissanime/9anime and watch them for free.

>>152411449
Trump is in the process of banning anime

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The Anime Awards being so shit.

Kira lost best villain

>>152411449
Amazon just released their anime site. crunchyroll is doomed so they are quitting while they are ahead.

>>152411449
Wow the Anime Awards thingy really affected them.

>>152411593
You mean making anime real

>>152411600
>00
checked

Dunno. They don't seem to be in financial distress, so this could be a financial maneuver designed to make the numbers look good to a big-media buyer.

It's over. The fansubbers won.

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>>152411553
You don't have to pay you moron. If you don't pay you're literally behind 1 week on releases.

>>152411657
huh?

>streaming anime
Why is /a/ full of plebs these days?

>>152411687
why be 1 week behind when you can get caught up to the japs by watching the exact same video file for free on another site?

Fucking Daiz

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Remember the whole Funimation-Crunchyroll team-up? There's probably some kind of merger or acquisition in the works.

Replacing them with funi employees. Enjoy your terrible encoding.

>>152411449
Iron Blooded Orphans is the worst gundam entry to date and they have very little alternatives for mecha anime, it isn't that hard to see what happened

>>152411736
Streams aren't 240p anymore and I don't want to mess with a bunch of individual files. It's better to stream current anime and torrent them later when the br rips come out.

>>152411449
Nice anime thread

what did there staff even do? none of there services seem to have been disrupted.

They're shitty middlemen, they have very little need for staff other than the two translators and the shills like you who come on /a/ to advertise their shitty service that is an active detriment to the anime industry.

>>152411449
saw one of there commercials on comedy central, it was about some loser watching anime on his phone in a club

>>152411676
From what I've heard (it's all Twitter mumblings right now), Ellation's CTO (Ellation is Crunchy's executive team) is also an outsourcing company's CEO, so it sounds like they're outsourcing most of the work.

>>152411787
720p stream is worse quality than a 720p TV source rip

>>152411827
>so it sounds like they're outsourcing most of the work
Looking forward to the era of glorious ESL subs.

Does this mean no more Machiko-sensei subs?

>>152411801
>active detriment to the anime industry
Evidence?

>>152411845
prove it

>>152411768
I actually did forget about this. I bet this does have something to do with it

Time for the fansub groups to raise from their graves?

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>>152411449
who gives a shit?

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>>152411739
Because I like to support anime. The money CR gets from subscribers goes towards buying licenses for streaming rights. Then again I'm not some freeloader basement dweller without a job.

>>152411924
Import BDs and figures.

>>152411910
please no. I don't want anything to do with gg/commie or the other memesubs.

>>152411845
Fansubbing is dead though, so most releases are streamrips anyway.

>>152411893
Google it, bitch. Not going to waste any more time on plebs like you

>they suddenly fired 90% of their staff and didn't give a reason.
Where did you learn this?

well Crunchyroll never did fix Ishikui's name when they streamed Ushio and Tora.....

>>152411953
Why not do both then? Good argument though.

>>152411924
I graduated from a T14 law school and I currently work at my father's contracts firm. I have no financial issues whatsoever. Buying rights to view streamed anime isn't exactly conspicuous consumption. There's nothing to be gained from subscribing to CR when you can find a site that has a larger anime selection that is also completely free.

>>152411953
>import figures

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>152411449
>they suddenly fired 90% of their staff and didn't give a reason
Source?

>>152411970

>caring about image fidelity for low quality chinese cartoons
>calling other plebs

lmao neets

>>152412029
Kill yourself and fuck off back to your college anime club you stupid fag

>>152411953
>figures
Those don't support anime

>>152411449
If they die, anime will be saved. Back to the Golden Days of funsubbing.

>>152411924
>The money CR gets from subscribers goes towards buying licenses for streaming rights.
You're joking right? Literally nothing of what you pay goes towards that, CR pays a ridiculously low flat rate that no one who actually makes anime would lose a dollar over, it's literally a pittance to the CEO of an overarching production company, most of CR's money goes to it's investors, and now almost all of it does since there are no employees to pay, the only thing your money you pay goes to is funding israeli settlements on the west bank since the major investor for CR is a zionist.

>>152412022
Only rumblings on Twitter. No news sites have posted anything.

>>152412098
>>>/pol/
fuck off

>>152411845
Even if it is, like 80% of subbed torrents are crunchy rips that are worse quality than just watching it on their site.

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>>152412098
Nice agenda there.

>>152412129
Link to these twitter rumblings then. Who specifically is saying that CR fired a bunch of their staff?

>>152411988
´from his ass.

What's the direct way to support the creator tho?

>>152412098
>telling lies on the internet

>the only thing your money you pay goes to is funding israeli settlements on the west bank since the major investor for CR is a zionist
>>>/pol/

>>152412178
Preorder the BDs and DVDs.

>>152411924
>Because I like to support anime.
HAHAHA

>>152412178
See
>>152411953
>Import BDs

>>152412098
>the only thing your money you pay goes to is funding israeli settlements on the west bank
Good.

>>152412141
>he doesn't download raw TV rips

>>152411768
Who cares when Amazon is going to kill them soon?

>>152412139
Fuck off kike

>>152412178
Depends on who you mean by "the creator".

>>152411924
What's with people who think they're better than others for paying for p i x e l s?

>>152412178
>the creator
Buy the manga/LNs.

Any sales related to the anime only help the studio and a negligible % of that money goes to the creator.

>>152412178
Who do you mean by creator, the studio? Because unless they sit on the production committee, they don't even get a cut of the BD sales.

>>152412164

Just go to Twitter and type crunchyroll into the search.

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>>152411924
>CR
>supporting the industry

>>152411953
this is the most wrong thing I've ever read in my life and it's about anime

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>>152412022

not really anything tangible like a press release but the usual up beat and cheery mouthpiece is rather brutally somber today since word is beginning to spread.

Expect further news in the coming days, my guess is CR execs are realizing that their efforts for actual same day simulcast are futile so the first move is to find people willing to work for less to cut their losses as much as possible. Expect TV tokyo or AT&T to take over and redistribute the service to various other platforms.

The days of somewhat decent speed subs from CR are gone. The fansubs will rise once again to take it's rightful place on the throne.

>>152412178
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/11/26-1/gintama-creator-comments-on-how-much-manga-authors-make-from-anime-adaptations

Reminder anime is just a way of publicizing the source material.

>>152411924
KissAnime has more stuff

>>152412178
Buy bd/dvd, manga, and merch from Japan based retailers.

>>152412332
>Buy bd/dvd
>help the creator
lol no

CR needs to die so the era of fansubbing can come back

>>152412350
Depends on if its an anime original series. Not everything is a manga/ln adaptation.

WE DID IT 4CHAN!

>>152412384
Good point, but almost all anime is adaptations.

>>152412371
You mean the era of dropped shows.

>>152411782
But CR's own engineers already made their video worse

>>152412139
Fuck off tumblr.

>>152412188
t. CR CEO

>>152411886
Pretty sure most of the subs are made by contractors anyway

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=crunchyroll&src=typd

All I see is people talking about it but no sources.

>>152412384
Depends what you mean by creator. Production committees get tons of cash from BDs and merch no matter what. Its still one the biggest sources of profit in the industry. Directors/Writers also get paid from royalities in BDs and merch. (I mean anime writers, not manga writers) Studios? Unless they are pretty high on the production committee or the show is a megahit get pretty much only get the contract fee.

Streaming rights have been cheap historically, but the cost has been increasing, as the various sites are starting to come into competition. The Crunchyroll-Funimation deal was a sign of that, licensing fees were finally starting to bite.

This is exactly what happened in the larger realm of streaming -- Netflix started out by scooping up cheap streaming rights, but eventually the studios began squeezing them for revenue, while they also tried to set-up a competing service they owned (Hulu).

Note that Netflix responded by padding out their selections with a lot of cheap B-grade content, combined with increasing amounts of premium Netflix Original content. Crunchyroll is probably going through a similar squeeze now.

>>152412424
So what? That only affected the normalfags and the lazy. Everyone on /a/ should have learned Japanese by now, it's been years.

>>152412450
>CR worse than Funi encoding
Probably haven't seen the Reaper arc in Assclass. Literally can't see a damn thing.

>>152412279
So it's just random people spreading rumours? Post a legit source if you want to talk about shit like this.

>thinking anything we do will affect the anime industry in any meaningful way

You guys aren't actually this delusional right?

Why cant studios just make more patreons/kickstarters so people dont need to "fund" them by buying imported BDs that they get maybe a single nickel out of

>>152412299
>pirating
>not buying anything
>supporting the industry

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>these fags defending CR
Seriously?

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Well, I might not be renewing my subscription.

Joke about "paying for streams" all you like, but it was a decent enough for service for me to fork over $60 for a year to watch on my PS4. But from the looks of this mess, I wouldn't want to give these people any more money. Lesson learned.

>>152412555
Because japs can't into modern business models

>>152412533
epic goal post moving, fom

>>152412541
FFF subbed it, so I obviously had no reason to. Also, that's not really relevant to how CR did make their encodes worse.

What about people who buy manga in japan? How impactful are sales for the artist

>>152412566
>implying I don't buy merch and/or the source material

Amazon and Netflix are buying up all the licenses.

>>152411449
Netflix/Amazon.

>>152412572
Unless you like something incredibly obscure torrenting will always be better.

>>152412551
>forgetting the prevalence of Western meddling like Netshit and Amazon
>forgetting Hollywood adaptations

>>152411736
Who fucking cares?

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>>152412533
>Everyone on /a/ should have learned Japanese by now

>>152411449
They are probably outsourcing, no one wants to pay San Fran wages when you could outsource all the shit to india or korea for 1/10th the salary

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Someone post some goddamn reliable source please.

>>152412601
The only people in manga who make money off of anime are the publishers who fund it.

>>152411449
lunch break discussion devolved into full waifu war

>>152412633
Better: someone post ANY FUCKING SOURCE!

>>152412555
Because then you'd have Western normalfags funding and influencing what gets made.

>>152412633

There are none. It's just random people spouting shit on Twitter.

>>152412551
Little Witch Academia, my dude.

>>152412601
They get paid a royalty by their publisher like most creative industries. It depends on the publisher, sales in question, and the royalty rate.

>>152412424
>some irrelevant shows with inferu coppu tier of animation got dropped

oh no

>>152412178
almost every anime you see is basically an adaptation of an LN or a manga so just buy the source material.

If you want to support the animation studio, buy the BDs.

>>152412555
Because that's an insane and unfeasible method of funding.

>>152412676
Pretty sure studios are paid by contract for adaptations, so buying BDs wouldn't necessarily mean money going to the studio

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>>152412591
>>152412627
>"I've been browsing post 2010": the post
>caring more about seasonal entertainment than the medium as a whole

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>>152411687
Or you can watch HorribleSubs for free. Immediately and forever. Or you could stop being a bottom feeder and learn Japanese.

>>152412627
You are the idiot if you can't even learn Japanese in a couple of years

I do buy it because people who are friends with CR staff are talking about it but its still prudent to wait for a legit source.

>>152411449
Friendly reminder that CR intentionally went around and hired translators out of active fansub groups and included "no independent work" in their employment contracts. They over-hired and ran at a labour budget excess for several years with the goal of greatly reducing the presence of free alternative translation sources.

They essentially payed translators to not translate so they could establish themselves as a go-to source with minimal free competition. The assumption would be that the loss would be recouped at a later date because the act creates a more profitable market for their services.

Now that they're thoroughly established and working on a partnership with Funimation, they no longer have a need to keep fansubbers tied up on payroll, so they're downsizing their labour department closer to what is actually necessary to meet their workload.

>>152412608
Now all of us can afford to do that though. CR is cheap enough to allow me to at least stimulate the economy.

>>152412722
>>152412748
>implying someone here really knows japanese
Kek.

>>152412748
t. idiot who didn't learn Japanese in a couple of years

>>152411449
They realized that paying westerners is fucking stupid and expensive with no real benefit.
Why pay them so much when some others can do the job but for a fraction of the cost?

>>152412758
>cheap enough to allow me to at least stimulate the economy
Wow so there's people who seriously are proud of this?

If they fired 90% of their staff and their service feels no different, then it well deserved. You should be questioning why they haven't done this earlier

>>152412722
You don't have to green text to quote yourself.

>>152412717
Studios generally don't fund anime anyway. When you buy BDs you give money to production companies who paid for the anime to be made, and may be inclined to make more of it in the future.

>>152412754
I concur. Fucking CR killing the scene.

>>152412526
Even then making a successful anime is good for everyone involved, they might get just the contract money, but it'll help them get more contracts in the future.

>>152412754
if that were the case, why is everyone discussing this mentioning engineers and not translators

>>152412660
Pretty much this. It's pretty much a social norm in Japan to not receive in form of financial assistance from western culture, especially Americans.

>>152412790
I'll cancel my sub then and no one gets anything. Happy?

>>152412795
Servers can generally run a while without needing maintenance 24/7. It's most likely outsourcing for something cheaper, or get around some unneeded expenses they didn't want to pay.

>>152412767
>>152412774
Why so jealous of me knowing Japanese? You could learn it too

>>152411600
>wanting Kira to place anything but third place

jojofags are full of autist nowadays, they lost sight of what was truly important, diluted out the real fans with Reddit/normies

For example chimping out over a popularity award by normieroll

>>152412618
>>152412619
Exclusivity rights are the cancer of streaming services. They should compete with features and plans, not the shows.

They're never going to fully replace television at this rate.

>>152412007
maybe he just has too much money

>>152412831
HR always works in waves. If one section is getting downsized, every other bit of layoff work will be done around the same time.

>>152412865
I could, but I don't get why you're trying to impress a stranger on the internet

when are they going to increase typesetting and video quality?

How much do they pay for translators and typesetters there anyway?

>>152411861
But that's already the case now.

>>152412920
One diet coke per episode.

>>152412622
I wasn't talking about the west as a whole, I was talking about us, as individuals.
>>152412671
>meaningful way
Sure we can get an anime here and there but it all ultimately comes down to whatever the big time CEO's feel like doing to get as much of that green while retaining their outdated shitty Japanese honorable business practices.

>>152412831
SysAdmins are almost always the last to go and usually get some bonus if they stick around till the company fully closes.

If anything I hope it was their marketing department getting axed because their TV commercials are confusing and shitty.

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Alright faggots, here's a fucking lesson you should know if Crunchyroll is going the way of the Blockbuster.

There's gonna be a scramble to buy up those licenses. Expect a season of fucking no one doing translations for a bunch of shows. But eventually, someone will step up and become the big dog in streaming, because that shit would mean a fuckton of NEETbux and weeaboo funding, so someone's gonna want it.

Expect fansubs to be a thing again, but not good enough to please expectations of the old days. You aren't gonna see any top-tier subs coming out of a fangroup, and almost certainly not the week of release for a good majority.

I'd expect Netflix or Funi to become the next big dog, but hopefully it would be some kind of new startup that understands that it's retarded to try and scoop up everything, and stick to being translators for shit instead of a marketplace/anime translator/K/J-Drama translator/Community organizers/buyoff machine.

Now here's what you faggots who think buying Crunchyroll subs can actually do to support the creators of these things.

BUY THE MANGA. BUY THE LIGHT NOVELS. BUY THE BDs IF THEY'RE ANIME ORIGINALS.

Subbing to Crunchyroll did fucking almost nothing for creators. That money isn't going to manga authors or light novel writers, it was going mostly to Crunchyroll pockets with maybe 10% being used to buy licences.

Fucking learn to buy a tankoban every once in a while if you like something. It doesn't even have to be imported, buying the tankoban or volume will give the author more money than your sub ever did, and it's cheaper. Even more so for Light Novels, since most are online and the cost of publishing is lower, e.g. less kickback to the publisher than if it was physical.

Now fucking do that instead of funding the shit-tier streaming sites.

>>152412567
They must be the plebbits who heard about the Tatum thing and for some reason havent fucked off proper yet

>>152412758
You do realize that with what you pay for 4 months of a CR membership you could buy a Nendo, right?

>>152412914
Not trying to impress anyone, just telling you to learn Japanese if you actually like anime

>>152412872
They will since it's way cheaper. Also, how is exclusivity of shows any different from traditional TV networks?

https://twitter.com/danikaharrod?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

is this the source?

>>152412959
I'm posting using my neighbor's wifi I cracked, anon.

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>people actually using CR
>these kinds of people being on /a/

>>152412945
Mark my words, I will never give even a single penny to the anime I love.

>>152412984
>18000 followers
Hm, seems a bit reliable.

>>152412972
Traditional networks make original programming, they are just buying up things that air in Japan anyways. Labeling anime licenses as "original series" is such a lame marketing ploy.

>>152412627
Good thing I finally registered in JPN class for next semester

https://twitter.com/danikaharrod/status/821881688821272577

former brand manager who is friends with a lot of the other "faces" of Crunchyroll.

>>152412984
https://twitter.com/MilesExpress999/status/821901712017399810

there's also this

>>152412959
>implying I don't still live at home and don't have a job

I don't even have a driver's license.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MilesExpress999
Actual CR employees seem to think something is going on but won't comment.

>>152412984
>VICE
>moralfag cunt who thinks pirating is terrible
Gross.

>>152413031
>he thinks you can learn Japanese from school classes

>>152413061
>not asking your mom for 30 bucks
Get on my level

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>>152412945
> if Crunchyroll is going the way of the Blockbuster.

Blockbuster didn't die because licensing, other comepitition in the same market, or anything like that. Blockbuster died because it failed to be innovative, streaming took everything by storm and required no physical locations and RedBox took the physical method of being able to burn hundreds of movies on physical formats.

If anything the company is just doing a massive restructure or shipping jobs somewhere cheaper

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>>152411924
Buying manga/source materials in moon is a much better way. It even plays a part in influencing the possibility of anime getting sequels.

Oh wait, you're just an ESL who over inflates his own contribution.

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>>152411924
>he thinks CR money goes to the anime industry

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>Getting to enjoy the tears of all the anime neophytes as they don't get instant subs

It's very nice really. Maybe they'll actually learn Japanese like I did so they can watch raws back like I had to.

>>152413002
I really only use it when I travel and don't have enough space on my mobile for shit.

Besides T-mobile doesn't charge it against your data usage to use CR

>>152413029
>Traditional networks make original programming
So do Netflix and Amazon

>they are just buying up things that air in Japan anyways
Netflix in particular is funding some Japanese shows though, like Terrace House. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they one day do end up on the production committee for an anime.

>>152412984
>sorry for those who got fired
>come work at VICE!!!

>>152411623
To even buy the amazon service you have to have prime already it isnt oncluded, and theyre exclusive livrary os terrible. Idoubt that will affect cr

>>152412944
That would explain Victoria's tweet.

https://twitter.com/sailorbee/status/821842686168551424

oh shit this is the motherload

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>>152411924
>CR
>supporting anime
Oh, it's this meme again.
>I support anime by using a cheap services
>even though I don't buy figurines, plamo, or BDs, which make up for roughly 90% of a studio's income

>>152413116
Learning an entire language just to watch a bunch of cartoons is pretty fucking autistic.

>plebs stop getting instant subs
>get to spoil everything for them
Can't wait

>>152413116
Fuck it, I got a question.

How long does it take to learn Japanese, how would you go about doing it, back then and now?

It seems more complicated than the usual Western languages, and seems to have three different sets of alphabets. Is that a big issue?

>>152413091
Unfortunately I live with my grandpa and he's a penny pincher. I only get stuff on my birthday and Christmas.

>>152413131
Netflix also licensed LWA and hoarded it until the season is finished.

>>152413116
To me, being able to read a wider range of manga is much more satisfying. At least most seasonal anime do get subbed till the end. Meanwhile, there's like hell knows how many dropped projects and interesting manga that never even gets 1 ch TL'd.

>>152411687
Really?

>>152411449
>caring about crunchyroll

>>>/out/

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>>152413002
Come on, anon, between my busy high school life and posting on Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter I just don't have time to do crazy complicated tasks like managing individual fucking files >>152411787

>>152413153
>sorry, all heroes have been outsourced
HEEEEH

>>152413153
>HBIC at CR
What is this?

>>152412178
Send them money directly.
Publishers take a huge chunk no matter the medium.

>>152413171
That's just you being narrow minded. Learning a language is never a waste.

Especially if you like to learn new things. I know, some people hates learning.

>>152413181
Yeah, stuff like that's particularly annoying since they can totally upload things weekly (and do in Japan)

>>152413226
Head Bitch In Charge

>>152413194
Because it's not like nowadays 90% of subbed anime is CR rips, amirite

>>152413175
>>>/int/70057493
I hope I didn't fuck it up

>>152412723
>Or you can watch HorribleSubs

You do know that HorribleSubs rips raws from Crunchy?
Crunchy gone = Anime that crunchy had will take longer to release and less quailty etc

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>>152411449
I wonder.

>>152413175
Just shut up and hit the books.

>>152413226
"Head Bitch In Charge"

>>152413165
>implying you cant't do all that at the same time.

>>152412972
Streaming services shouldn't aim to be like TV networks, though. They should aim to be like TV providers. Big difference.

>>152413240
Blame western normalfags and their shitty binge culture

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yfw Crunchyroll is going to die in your lifetime

>>152413298
>implying you do

>>152412703
I dont mean as the main way (like LWA), I mean just as an option.

>>152412945
>Subbing to Crunchyroll did fucking almost nothing for creators.

Yeah, because it couldn't even keep Crunchyroll afloat, if the premise of your post is correct. You're fucking retarded if you think that little money would do anything for the industry if it went directly to the creators. Something like Crunchyroll working out is a necessity in order the tap into larger markets. That would do much more for the industry than just us sending money to the creators.

>>152413237
It has more to do with the time and effort required just to be able to watch/read something that is already being actively translated. If you had a proper life with an actual busy schedule you would understand why learning Japanese without having any further goals like living in Japan is a dumb idea.

Though now that I mention it you probably want to do that to you fucking weaboo.

>>152413273
You might want to re-read the conversation. The post you're replying to isn't even talking about CR being bust.

>>152413171
Cry more.

>>152413175
Find some sort of class that can teach you the basics. Actually pay attention, don't half ass it. Practice. Practice is GOD. Then make use of the "Learn Japanese" threads on /int/

You gotta put in the time. After a year or so, you can start watching shows meant for children RAW. You still won't understand everything but if you've been diligent you should be able to understand what they're saying and it's basically a bar. If you can't understand the dialogue in something like a Super Sentai show by the 2 year mark, then you've not been trying.

Reading and Writing will take a lot longer though.

>>152413256
>>152413294
Seriously? Deserves to get fired

stop the twitter faggotry
remember, this is /a/

>>152412076
are we talking about kuso bootleg figures or official licensed figures? shit would support anime as much as streaming does - licensing fees and thats it

>>152413310
>They should aim to be like TV providers. Big difference.
You mean they should aim to be complete monopolies over entire regions?

>>152412178
Go to church

>>152413312
Who cares, as long as the option is there.

>>152413369
Why? That doesn't mean she is the owner or the only one making decisions, usually that's just who normal employees report to she just passes it up

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>>152413171
That's why you learn it to watch a bunch of children's superhero shows, instead.

>>152413375
>anime news aren't /a/
You're special, kid.

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>>152411449

just think how cheap anime would be if everybody paid for it

>>152411449
That is what Crunchyroll gets for shilling fujoshit anime

Fujoshit killed Manglobe.

Now fujoshit killed Crunchyroll.

>>152413240
If Netflix starts taking a bigger piece of the licenses, fansubs could return in a big way since Netflix would just hoard episodes for like 3 months and if CR dies so does Horriblesubs.

>>152413116
I started, but dropped it because I got lazy.

>>152413361
Reading Japanese is hard as fuck. Arguably one of the hardest langauges for native English speakers to learn.

>>152413273
Actually quality would probably increase, but it would definitely take longer. I was just mocking the Papika poster for saying "you only have to wait a week to watch for free!" when it's trivial to watch for free immediately if that's what you want.

>>152413361
>Find some sort of class that can teach you the basics.
Completely useless step. /djt/ has all you need to get started

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>>152413331
Who cares? CR has basically no effect on anime in the industry of japan and is an idiot cull for normies

it's the engineering staffs that got laid off, the positions are simply outsourced. crunchyroll itself is still afloat

https://twitter.com/danikaharrod/status/821882374761971713

>The Man

Secret femiNAZI message?!?!?

>>152413392
Ideally no, but a monopoly is better than the current system in which you need subscriptions to multiple services to get access to all programming.

We are at a point where a monopoly would be an improvement.

>>152413354
That's a long post for making excuses. I guess all those people who can speak multi languages are weebs who don't have a busy schedule as well, huh?

>learning Japanese without having any further goals like living in Japan is a dumb idea
Man, you're so ignorant, it's sad. Well, like I said, you're narrow minded. You don't need to live in Japan in order to need to justify learning moon. They do businesses overseas too and yes, liaison with their moon businesses/departments require moon, not english.

>>152413336
Anime is a niche market whos model is based on a small amount of people spending huge amounts of money. Making it mainstream would kill it.

>>152413131
Netflix is shameless with pretending they do shit.

Like Sidonia was called Netflix's first original anime series.

Netflix put their name in their advertisement of Sidonia instead of the Anime Studio's name.

For the causal normalfag in America, they would be misled into thinking Netflix created the Sidonia anime.

>>152412984
Welp, thats enough to convince me. I hope that blonde got the axe so she can go back to working the corner. She had nice tits I'd throw done 50 for some paizuri. The people that worked there were all SJW faggots anyway. Fuck em'.

>>152413495
It's still shitposting, even if you're being ironic.

>>152411449
>pay entitled westerners 5 figure salary
>pay chinks, gooks who will do it for 3 figures and about the same quality

Only an idiot would choose the former.

>>152413495
>The Man

No you /pol/ fag, The Man usually means someone above you like your boss or sometimes government

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>>152413419
>people say toku isn't /m/
>toku gets to stay because mental gymnastics let it be /m/
>somehow tokushitters think that karate bugmen are acceptable to post on /a/

>>152413498
>We are at a point where a monopoly would be an improvement.
You know CR is pretty close to a monopoly, and they don't provide the best service at all

>>152413495
More like, non secret idiot message.
>Why isn't the world the way I want it to be bawww opression

>>152413088
>He thinks I'm an ordinary student who just takes a class half assed.

>>152412754
Thats a great business model

>>152413440
>fansubs could return in a big way
Why? People only fansub shows nowadays because they want to, and that wouldn't change just because a show is easily available or not.

>>152413520
I thought they did create it. Then Aijin came out and had the same look, thought something was fishy there when it had a manga.

>>152413331
>>152413489
Remember the MangaUpdates Controversy?

And Crunchryoll was stated by some people to have had some role in MangaUpdates being less useful than the past.

>>152412304
Half of it is wrong and you're a fucking dickhead /v/ermin shitstain.

>>152413501
>They do businesses overseas too and yes, liaison with their moon businesses/departments require moon, not english.
That's not strictly true, I've read email correspondence between the Japanese and American offices of a Japanese company that were conducted in imperfect English. In-person meetings had a translator though.

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>>152413354
>If you had a proper life with an actual busy schedule you would understand why learning Japanese without having any further goals like living in Japan is a dumb idea.

It's never a waste of time to learn something new! Learning languages keeps your brain sharp and lets you connect with new people and understand different parts of the world. Never stop learning, and don't let anyone keep you from expanding your horizons.

>>152412754
CR: All according to keikaku

>people that think that CR is failing.
>not just trying to evolve by doing their own version of natural selection.

>>152413592
>he thinks the pacing in school is anywhere near to decent
You probably spend half a year learning kana. I spent less than a week

>>152413489
Except that without Crunchyroll, fansubs can be a thing again because CR won't be abusing the shit out of DMCA whatevers.

>>152413520
At least it's not Glitter Force. Now that's a real atrocity.

>>152413520
They did produce the dub, and they do own the license to stream it.

>For the causal normalfag in America, they would be misled into thinking Netflix created the Sidonia anime.
Your first mistake was assuming any normie is that informed about who or what produces anime, or even cares.

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>>152413469
Look, I don't make assumptions on /a/ poster intelligence. I recommend a class for foundation because some people on /a/ are just too stupid.

>>152412533
Everyone in Japan should have learned English by now. It's been decades since the 2nd bomb.

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>>152413546
Tokusatsu is important to the history and culture of anime and manga, so it's not out of line to bring it up once in a while.
Actually, I think that toku should either go on /jp/ or have its own board, but I'm not the one who makes the rules.

>>152413191
Really. Paying only gives you a "premium" service, which is watching simulcasts. Otherwise, you just watch them a week after (and it's not like you'll watch EVERY single show right on time all the time).

You can pretty much watch their catalog for free.

>>152413312
Watching things week by week is pointless. Every show is more enjoyable when you marathon it.

>>152413331
And once again we'll have to rely on shitty fansubs like Asenshit.

>>152413644
Not him, but it's a waste for me. Everything learned seems to slip away so fast, life has just become an indistinguishable blur where something that happened barely moments ago was forgotten like it was nothing. What the fuck happened?

>>152411449
I don't believe you

>>152413546
Well I think Trigger and Gainax shows should be banned to /mlp/ or /trash/ but that doesn't make me right either

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>>152413336
Listen you stupid motherfucker, do you understand shit?

If 100,000 people each gave Crunchyroll 60 a year to fund a subscription, that's 6 million dollars. Assuming Crunchyroll keeps (and these are going to be some low ass numbers) 50% of the money for themselves, that means 3 million dollars go to buying licences. Of that, split across two dozen different studios or so, that would mean each studio got 125,000 dollars. It ends there for anime originals, and MAY be worth it, but not likely, considering that's about the budget of two workers, yearly.

Now let's say each studio then keeps 50% of the money, leaving 75,000 dollars to go to their manga adaption sources. Assuming each studio does one adaption a season, that means you split it into fourths, which leaves 18,750 dollars to go to each person. This is assuming that publishers don't also take a cut, which they almost certainly do, which would cut it in half again to 9,375 dollars a year.

That isn't even enough to pay rent for a whole year in most cities, let alone all the other bills the creators would have.

Now let's say 10,000 people each pay 15 dollars for an anime volume. That's 150,000 dollars. Assuming the publisher takes half of that, that's 75,000 that goes right to the creator of the work.

Which fucking one sounds better?

>>152413693
t. Shounenfag

>>152413710
You got Alzheimers.

>>152413530
S-Sorry.

>>152413717
>anime, so belong on /a/
>only series with mecha in them are posted on /m/
Sorry anon but I'm right and you're wrong.

their engineering department got outsourced, that's all. this is a none-story.

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>>152413175
http://www.csus.edu/indiv/s/sheaa/projects/genki/hiragana-timer.html
There are two phonetic alphabets, hiragana and katakana. Study them both. If you can learn them well enough in one week to read slowly then you're not too stupid to learn Japanese. If it takes you longer than a week, give up now and save yourself time. Next, you have to decide whether you want to spend the next 4 years becoming fluent. If you decide you want to, /int/ has all the resources in their Daily Japanese Thread.

>>152413668
Normalfags know about Studio Ghibli.

Netflix not advertising Polygon Pictures as well as their own name hurts Polygon Pictures.

From now on, when you mention Sidonia to American normalfags, they will be Oh Yeah, that Netflix anime.

Polygon Pictures will never enter their heads at all when mentioning Sidonia.

I think it is a dickbag move in a way.

>>152413666
How the hell did they go from the relatively uncut and pretty damn decent Futari Wa dub to that is fucking stupid.

Like, really fucking stupid.

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>>152413693
Some shows require you to take it easy.

>>152411924
THIS

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>>152413274
>that
motherfuck-

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So who here actually has a CR account? We're supposed to be kinda relevant, since we spend so much money on weeb stuff.

I have one, but I never use it. I lend it to my friends.

>>152413749
>Tax not even accounted for
>each studio got 125,000 dollars / year
Wow it's fucking nothing

>/a/ seriously discussion cr stuff
I miss old /a/

>>152413274
I hope this never stops getting updated

reminder crunchyroll is just trying to scare everyone to think they are going bankrupt to trick people into thinking buying a premium membership can help. it's the same tactic hiro is using with 4chan right now

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>>152413507
>Anime is a niche market

You have no idea how popular anime is internationally. It is huge and you'd know that if you went outside and talked to people. The vast majority of people use local streaming sites.

FANSUBBING IS SAVED

>>152413790
>Memorization is related to intelligence
U wot

>>152413664
Fucking this. So many fansubbers gave up on finishing their subbing for a shitload of 90s animes because of CR.

>>152413790
Is the /int/ thread or /jp/ thread better? I haven't visited a /djt/ since it was on this board.

>>152413171
>>152413354
>just to be able to watch/read something that is already being actively translated
You say that like there aren't plenty of anime and fucktons of manga that aren't being actively translated. Just because you're a casual faggot who only cares about new TV anime and WSJ manga doesn't mean everyone else is.

>>152413822
When you download 12 episodes you are in complete control of when you watch those 12 episodes. For slower stuff like aria I would usually watch an episode per day, in between all the other anime

Hopefully some Chinese streaming site that actually contributes to the industry takes over.

>>152413656
If thats actually true thanks for the tip. Its just to get my feet wet and to see the learning process for a different language. I'm a fuckin workhorse baby, when I put my mind to something that shit gets done.

>>152413749
>all this hypothetical stuff
>Forgetting about taxes
>forgetting about infrastructure
>forgetting about SanFrans stupid costs and salaries
>Thinking licensing only will stop at 50%

AHAHAHHAHAHAH, read how the author of Gintama's rant on how much they get from a well selling anime. They ain't getting shit at the end of the day.

>which would cut it in half again to 9,375 dollars a year.
which is ~780 a month, THEN you have to split it over the whole studio which if we assume is only 10, that's 78 bucks a month pretax

>>152413905
Both are terrible.

>>152413931
We all know that Netflix will take over once Crunchy dies.

>>152413857
>>152413866
Whatever happened to Daisuki

>>152413857
Old /a/ learnt Japanese and fucked off from /a/. I'm on /a/ for the first time in months

>>152413961
Dear god

>>152413520
Lots of Netflix "originals" are shows they just own the rights to

TPB and Arrested Development had that tag before they actually produced more episodes of either IIRC

>>152413966
They usually focus on Aniplex's cashcows

>>152413904
A lot of fansub teams have retired now.

We are going to have to wait for the new generation to arrive.

>>152413966
Died because it couldn't keep up with Crunchyroll and their speed subs.

>>152413905
/int/ is for blogposting and normalfaggotry
/jp/ is for weebs

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Does this mean we'll go back to the (not so) good 'ol days of watching TV-rips?

Are fansubs coming back?
Will gg and Eclipse come back?
Will moot ever come back?

>>152413749
You didn't factor in crunchyrolls own operating costs needed. Datacenters aren't cheap kiddo

>>152414025
>/jp/ is for weebs
No, /jp/ is also for blogposting generals.

Why hasnt netflix bought them out?

>tfw still have free crunchyroll account courtesy of high school

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>>152414034

>>152412984
https://twitter.com/aWeirdOneToo3/status/821873802212540416

I found this, posted 30 minutes before

>>152414085
They're slowly, really slowly trying to reach the anime audience. Their catalog is normie as fuck, and they bought LWA only to not stream it at all.

>>152414106
>CR
>support the Japanese anime industry
Confirmed that people who pay for pixels are fucking stupid

>>152413175
Langauges are difficult relative to each other. Japanese is considered a Tier 5 anime by the US government- the most difficult for native english speakers to learn. (Its actually starred because of its complexity) but you probably won't need the same level of japanese as a US ambassador to watch anime. English is easy to get basic conversational speaking (even easier for langauges like mandarin that aren't related but have similar word order) but is notoriously difficult at higher levels because of how context sensitive (read:punny) and completely illogical it is. I find this is true with a lot of langauges. You can learn enough to ask to use the bathroom or to watch anime and even read manga well enough just fine. Anything more than that and you need to go to Japan or take intensive courses.

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>>152413934
This image and some reading practice is enough to learn kana in a couple of days. It will take a few weeks to really hammer them in but after that you won't forget them. Just see the guide on /djt/ on what to do

>>152413705
fuck off fat nigger

>>152413850
Why the fuck do you think Crunchyroll is shit, licensing has only gotten more expensive recently. Before it was barely shit, because the Japanese studios considered anything from the west to be a bonus.

>>152413937
Fucking exactly.

The point I was making was that the first option is trash that doesn't help creators at all. That's why the second option is so much better, it has less money at the start, but more goes to the creator in the end.

>>152414045
That was the initial part where half the money got split.

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>it's another "NEETs insisting that paying for anime magically doesn't support it" episode

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>>152413749
You forgot the part where CR is able to market their shit, become big enough to fund high-budget Disney-level productions, and do it because there are returns to their investment. But no, let's just send a few bucks to random mangaka every now and then, that'll totally help.

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>>152414135
>Japanese is considered a Tier 5 anime by the US government

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Why doesn't Japan make their own streaming service, so they can actually earn money outside their ultra niche otaku audience?

I wonder how much the anime industry is working for attract people to netflix and amazon. I know is privileged information but still I wonder

dattebayo will always be dattebayo

>>152413961
>>152413981
Yeah, makes me wonder why Crunchyroll and Funimation haven't closed up shop by now.

I heard Funimation only exists due to Dragon Ball Z dubs but the era of Dragon Ball is starting to fade away.

And face it, Crunchyroll ain't no Netflix.

I always wondered why Crunchyroll had an office in San Francisco anyway.

Doesn't it cost multiple arms and legs to live in San Francisco.

Makes you think that Crunchyroll subscribers are paying for the cost of Crunhcyroll having an office in a place like San Francisco than the actual anime producers because San Francisco ain't a cheap place to live at all.

>>152414168
funny memetext and reaction meme

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>CR fired all its subbers

FANSUBBING IS BACK BOYS AND GIRLS

>>152413597
It happens a lot.
The company I work at contracted to have their products sold at virtually every competitor's store then pawned off their B-stock and opened their own stores where they undercut all the people they let sell their inferior products.

Our competitors did all the brand exposure for us and now they can't compete with our prices while we steal all of their business. It's a doggy-dog world out there.

>>152414168
>it's another "redditor insists that buying secondhand products magically pays the guy that made it

>>152414182
That's what Daisuki is.

>>152414182
Because why the fuck would they put in the time and effort to cater to a country that they barely make any money from?

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>>152411600
>The Anime Awards
Has mankind finally made something more disgusting and worthless than video game awards?

>>152413894
If you're smart and lazy, you'll succeed in a week. If you're dumb and hardworking, you'll succeed in a week. If you fail at learning kana in a week, for whatever reason, you're not going to be able to learn the rest.

>>152414149
>That was the initial part where half the money got split.
>3 million dollars and run multiple datacenters with engineers and staff to support the company

Ain't going to happen kiddo, that number needs to be much higher

>>152414182
Japan doesn't like to do business overseas unless they are absolutely sure they can make a profit.

>>152414219
...to make more money

>>152414192
>Doesn't it cost multiple arms and legs to live in San Francisco.
Their employees probably don't live in the city.

>>152414168
If you mean Crunchyroll, you aren't paying for anime you dumbfuck, you're paying for access to Cruncyroll's higher quality anime streams.

You are not paying for the anime. You are paying for the privilege to watch a stream of anime to a service that licenses the anime.

>>152414254
Time and effort take money.

>>152414174
How is CR going to become big when their content depends on Japan?

Netflix got big because of deals with Hollywood.

Anime is niche.

>>152414223
No, because this is just a stupid webpage, as opposed to a million dollar corporate farce.

>>152414223
its because CR is ENDLESS TRASH

>>152414168
CR pays a flat licensing fee per episode that sums to a negligible amount. A few thousand bucks is nothing relative to production costs.

>>152414233
That post is incredibly stupid and baseless.

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>>152414261
>Cruncyroll's higher quality anime streams

>>152414182
It's called Daisuki. They sucked at it.

>>152414238
Then that makes the hypothetical amount of money the creators get even less, while the amount for directly supporting stays unchanged.

>>152414273
>Anime is niche.

It's not. >>152413873

I would consider buying BDs if they also came with english subs.

>crunchyroll outsourcing everything

huh.

>>152414267
well, expanding your market seems like a good investment
especially the wealth of normies dipping their feet in the medium with SAO and all that

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>>152414168
>it's a "nigger has no clue how licensing fees work" episode

>>152414293
High Quality in comparison to their lower tier, free options, not their actual quality relative to torrents or BDs.

>>152414135
I find it funny when native English speakers talk about how context sensitive Japanese is.

>>152414307
Some actually do. My Lucky Star and Haruhi bluray set from Japan came with both English subs and the dub.

>>152414210
>>152414261
>>152414276
NEETs, everyone knows the real reason you're irritated by the idea of paying for anime, you can stop the mental gymnastics now

Are we seriously discussing if anime is niche or not?

90% of it IS niche. Just because you talked to someone who watched Naruto and Shingeki doesn't mean it's a popular hobby.

>>152414233
Kana was easily the hardest part of learning Japanese for me, and definitely took more than a week. Everything else has been so much easier, even memorizing kanji.

>>152413905
They are the same. The only difference is how conscious you feel about your own country and/or how anonymous you want to feel (assuming you have a rare flag).