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How the fuck did they screw up the sequels to this show so badly?

>Retarded kid in duel school (how the fuck is that a thing)

>Distopian future were you duel while riding a motorcycle

>Alien Ghost helps kid cheat at a card game

>Meets 3 kids who look extremely like him, apparently there are 4 worlds, each using a different type of summoning card

They should have just left the series alone
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I dunno, those concepts sound pretty entertaining desu. Too bad the execution was a bit hit or miss, especially on GX and Zexal.
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>>152402807
>>152402869
>people talking shit about GX and 5D's

Get out.
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>>152402807
>Retarded kid in duel school
The school thing was dropped shortly after
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Because those are obviously more ludicrous than the card game being based on a deadly Egyptian game that uses magic to summon monsters
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>>152402807
Zexal was actually the most like DM, as well as his duel spirit allowing him to cheat
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>>152402807
card games on motorcycles were surprisingly pretty good
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How much would yugioh improve if the game it was centered around was less shitty?
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>>152402807
How the fuck did they screw up the adaptation of this manga so badly?

>First three arcs cut, causing what the anime did adapt to make no sense
>39% of content is filler, it could have been around 100 episodes, rather than 220
>QUALITY fucking everywhere
>Pegasus retconned back to life

They should have just left the manga alone.
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>>152403466
>>QUALITY fucking everywhere
Like what?
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>>152402948
I just realized I may need to 5D's some slack the synchro mechanic isn't even complicated compared to the others I just wanna know why motor cycles how does it effect the game in anyway at all is it just their version of duel disk I don't get it
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>>152402807
all the other sequels are not cannon nor real op
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>>152403515
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>>152402807
everything after season 0 is irrelevant
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how hard will be for me to get in new-gioh am I gonna have to get my ass kicked on pro
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>>152403466
Not killing Pegasus was good
His cameo on GX was funny
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>>152402807
GX is pretty good so far.

That season 1 finale was pretty weird though. The old guy is still old, he's still going to die very soon even if he "believes in himself" or has friends.
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>>152403596
Motorcycles generate the energy needed to Accel Synchro,
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>>152404664
Season 1 is fine
Season 2 is retarded but it's fun
Season 3 is where it gets edgy but I like it
Season 4 is too edgy for me
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>>152404848
Sounds perfect for me Anon. As long as Judai keeps being a happy-go-lucky guy who loves dueling I'm sure I'll love it.
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>>152403165
It was pushed to the background, he was still at a duel school
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>>152404940
Your in for disappointment, then
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>>152402807
Better question is why are Americans so susceptible to genwun syndrome? How come Americans shitfling anything but the first series to every franchise but Japan embraces all series to long running franchises?

>>152403466
1. Nobody but Americans liked pre DK Yu-Gi-Oh. Cutting it out was smart. Adapting it wou!d cause it to faiil a second time
2. The "filler" was great
3. The anime fixed numerous problems with the manga. Especially Memory World like having Kaiba actually be there for more than 1 panel
4. The anime transcended the manga into being the defacto canon
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>>152403596
Speed/Momentum was a crucial plot point. You can consider Momentum the origin of Synchro Summoning. A plot point at the end of the show is that continuous Synchro Summoning destroys the world.
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>>152402807
I like how everybody who hates YGO sequels obviously hasn't watched any of them and just spews memes.

>hurr durr card games on motorcycles
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>>152407699
Go look in the manga storytime threads. Painfully obvious most of them are dubfags and tasfags given rampant use of dub names and acting shocked at how different the manga is despite being the same as the sub anime, and its only the dub that changed things
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>>152402807
>>Retarded kid in duel school (how the fuck is that a thing)
Okay but be real here, who wouldn't want to go to a college dedicated to play the world's best card game? (In their universe)

>>Distopian future were you duel while riding a motorcycle
5Ds's actually had some of the best Characters IMO. The motorcycles did get a little dumb at times but still one of the better anime of the series.

>>Alien Ghost helps kid cheat at a card game
Oh yeah, fuck Zexal.

>>Meets 3 kids who look extremely like him, apparently there are 4 worlds, each using a different type of summoning card
At least its not Zexal. They also brought back characters from 5D's so I'm cool with it. Also, as someone who plays the game, Arc V did a good job at actually playing the game outside of the entertainment duels.
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>>152407907
Go to bed Ono
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>>152407543
>1. Nobody but Americans liked pre DK Yu-Gi-Oh. Cutting it out was smart. Adapting it wou!d cause it to faiil a second time
>Skipping eaery arcs is always good guys!
They could have condensed it like Pierrot did with YYH. Merging Kaiba's first appearance with Death-T 5 was retarded. Toei's adaptation was shit too for the same reasons, by the way.
>2. The "filler" was great
>Muh basaka soul meme
> 3. The anime fixed numerous problems with the manga. Especially Memory World like having Kaiba actually be there for more than 1 panel
Kaiba's character arc was done in Battle City. Even DSoD was really stretching it.
>4. The anime transcended the manga into being the defacto canon
Has Arc-V knocked the black box from Niconico's worst rated episodes yet?
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>>152404940
If that's what appeals to you in gx you will be disappointed from midway through season 3 and season 4, but the final episode will be worth it for you.
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>>152408146
ARC V sucking shit has nothing to do with the DM adaption

Honest!y surprised Ono got work given 5Ds was the worst liked series. No idea how he was allowed to fellate it so much
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>>152407543
Not really since Dark Side of Dimensions follows the manga
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>>152408506
howso?
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Yubel Johan was the best
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>>152409660
Kaiba never saw the ceremonial duel, so he never was truly able to get any sort of closure on never being able to beat Atem. In the manga, he makes Kaibaland, he develops hologram technology, and builds a system of elaborate death traps after he lost to Atem the first time. Refining his hologram technology and building the most ridiculous looking space elevator he could so that he could duel Atem again doesn't seem all that far fetched once you think about how he was in the manga.
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>>152403466
I like the Noah arc. The deckmaster idea was pretty neat. The only problem I had with that arc is that it was right smack in the middle of another important arc. Would have been better if they move it to after Battle City concludes.
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>>152404582
Depends how new you're talking.
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>>152407543
You're assuming that it's the same fans following the show all the while. In the case of America, most of the time, it's simply because after the fist series ends and a new one begins, there aren't as many new fans getting into the title to take over for the sequel after the old fans left.

That's not the case for japan. The old fans may have grown up and not care, but there'll be new fans getting into the sequel. The result is that you get the impression of Americans only caring about the 1st series while Japan seems to enjoy all the coming series.
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>>152402807
??? GX had a great 2nd half and 5D's first 67 episodes were really good.
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>>152408460
>5Ds was the worst liked series
You misspelled ZeXal.
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>>152407907
Zexal 2nd season is the best, though
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>>152411112
>>152410699
Arc-V takes up 90% of the top 20 worst-rated episodes on Nico.
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>>152411631
Why are you quoting me? One single sequel (out of many sequels) being bad doesn't disprove the point. It just means that one single sequel does happen to be that bad.
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>>152402807
Fucking genwunner. I bet you didn't even watch the entirety of DM
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>>152402807
none of your points are any less retarded than DM using card games to settle things when they have magical items that fuck people up
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>>152408460
Wait so Edo is the Kaiba, not Thunder? Can't they make up their mind?
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>>152411872
manjoume is kinda half actual rival half comedy relief, edo at least managed to push judais shit in.

of course that's not counting the manga where manjoume is way more competent.
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>>152410699
You're making so many generalizations here with no evidence whatsoever. On what basis do you speak for all of America? On what basis do you speak for all of Japan?
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>>152411872
>>152411918
Manjoume is still more like the Kaiba though. He has the trenchcoat, the dragon ace (for some of the anime and all of the manga), and the douchey attitude.
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>>152411112
Zexal got better ratings than 5Ds
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>>152412090
By looking at the general trends, interests etc. You're doing the same thing too, by assuming one series speaks for the others.
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>>152408460
>Edo and Sawatari the Kaiba
>not Hell Kaiser and Reiji
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>>152412310
That's not really surprising at all, since Zexal was written in a standard shonen format. It's target audience could better identify with it than 5Ds.

5Ds worked better for long time Yu-Gi-Oh fans.
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>>152408146
>Kaiba's character arc was done in Battle City. Even DSoD was really stretching it.

Not really. While the bulk of his problems were solved the sanity of his character hinged entirely on the concept of Atem always being there. The idea of taking Atem out and seeing how Kaiba would react was never expanded upon until the movie became a thing. Everyone else got their closure with his passing but Kaiba.
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>>152404940
>Liking shit head judai

Fuck how is that even possible. He's the most annoying protag I've seen. There's never any tension cause the shit head just laughs at everything. Whenever an enemy is going to beat him he fucking talks them out of it so he can win. For most of this show it was hard to give even a little bit of a shit because he didn't give a shit, even when his friends lives were in danger.
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>>152412429
>By looking at the general trends, interests etc.
So basically you're making shit up.

>by assuming one series speaks for the others.
What?
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>>152412090
You kidding? America loves nostalgia. Kanto era Pokemon, DM era YGO, MMPR era Power Rangers. Most Americans don't give a shit about anything other than the first series. You can even see it during advertisements like how Red was hyped the fuck up during the English SuMo trai!ers, but in JP was barely a footnote. In the Japanese trailers they hyped up Shirona a lot more since shes one of the most popular Pokemon chars in Japan

I don't know if they still do it but at American Yugioh tournaments they used to get the dub voice actors for Yugi and Kaiba to do fake duels. Over a decade after DM ended
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>>152412901
More like America doesn't like milking a franchise.
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>>152413087
Explain Dragon Ball Super's fandom then.
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>>152413299
The Dragon ball fanbase is a battered partner who keeps going back while convincing themselves that it'll get better.
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>>152403466
lol who gives a shit about that early shit. The Card game is what matters. Pegasus dying was too violent and sudden.
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>>152412186
>>152412186
Manjoume is more like Joey, a comedy relief rival. Same with Sawatari.

Edo or better yet Ryou is the better GX rival.
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>>152413601
>The Card game is what matters

Kaz is a huge RPG fan and even the final arc is a giant Tabletop RPG. If you say only the card game matters then you're just like Konami.

Look at how the anime desperately trying something "new" like Synchro, Xyz and Pendulum summoning, when Kaz had the SAO idea for a while.

Too bad SAO is a thing and is extremely popular already.
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>>152412901
Okay, let's say that's true for America. How about Japan?
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>>152413789
>Final arc is a tabletop RPG

I never realized that. Its actually a pretty great idea.
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>>152413601
>too violent

It's like you didn't even read the first 7 volumes.
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>>152412771
>Whenever an enemy is going to beat him he fucking talks them out of it so he can win

what the fuck are you even talking about

anyways, judai is based for the entire show

don't understand how someone could dislike him if they watched the original japanese dub
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>>152403848
amazing
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>>152413087
>More like America doesn't like milking a franchise.
>cape comics, ben 10, transformers, loony toons, disney stuff
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>>152413910
Yeah, it's basically a rematch of the first game between Bakura and Atem. It's actually structured sort of like a duel too. Zorc is Bakura's "ace monster". Mahad, Exodia, the God cards all failing to defeat Zorc is like Atem playing his cards.
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>>152413792
Japan doesn't? Not much else to say. Modern series do just fine. Gundam, Pokemon, Super Sentai, Precure, Kamen Rider, Yu-Gi-Oh. Japan mastered the art of yearly installments and can love all of them equally. You don't get much genwun pandering. Later series can easily eclipse older ones in popularity
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>>152413923
I skimmed through it.
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>>152408460
Who are these losers?
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>>152412433
>Kaiser
Anon Kaiser does not fit the rival theme like Sanda.
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>>152412901
>MMPR era Power Rangers
But I liked Timeforce better.
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>>152414366
As a jap I can tell you that at least with Pokemon people here are still way more into the first gen. Nostalgia is universal.
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>>152413910
I didn't see the anime but in the manga at least they outright say it's essentially a game of Dungeons and Wizards.
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>>152415228
>watching PR at all instead of Sentai
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>>152416397
I was 12 at the time dude.
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>>152413087
If that was true, Marvel and DC would be out of business
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>>152415566
Uh huh

Well American must have more considerate they made Pokemon go such a hit while it barely made the top 20 apps in Japan
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>people fear Exodia as being one of the most powerful cards


>its actually really fucking shit
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>>152417411
Are you fucking retarded? Exodia is responsible for like, half the banlist.

Okay, that might be an exaggeration, but still.
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>>152410524
I understand the basics I just don't know pendulum or xyz but I'm kinda interested in it seems like I'd have to learn about alot of new cards to
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>>152417330
That doesn't sound right. Pokemon Go was insanely popular when it launched here. You couldn't walk two meters at Shibuya station without running into someone playing it. I even saw a few seniors using it. Nowadays, not so much.
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>>152402807
>Disliking GX
Dubfags should die
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>>152417568
Even if XYZ and Pendulum didn't exist, you'd still have a lot of cards to learn about. Get familiar with the meta. I suggest you head over to the /dng/ general on /vg/ and lurk a while.
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>>152402807
>Alien Ghost helps kid cheat at a card game
Not very different from the original
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>>152417411
look at that adorable smile.
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Is it worth trying to catch up on all of Yu Gi Oh? How many episodes are there?
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>>152423411
most yugioh series are around 150

the original has about 200+
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Who cares YGO was always shit for idiots
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