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Discuss.
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>Gohan means lunch
>Lunch means lunch
>Lunch disappears with Tien just before Gohan is born
really makes u think
is Tien a Saiyan?
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ZAMASU!
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>>152374385
Tien is a faggot.
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>>152374395
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>>152374456
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>>152374395
>>152374456
there is nothing wrong with these
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>>152374470
this however is fucking unacceptable
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>>152374470
I really like that fight
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>>152374525
DELETE THIS
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>>152374525
DELETE THIS!
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>>152374349
>Discuss.
>Dragon Ball Super
>Discuss

do we have to...?
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>>152374551
Frieza is best villan.
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>>152374551
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>>152374578
Discuss it you piece of shit
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>>152374580
>implying
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>>152374614
no you
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>>152374580
Yes, she is.
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>>152374604
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>>152374630
I will fucking kill you if you don't discuss Super right this fucking second
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zamasu samaaaa~
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>>152374647
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>>152374692
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>>152374671
Not that anon but I will start
Do you think Goku looks good in a turtle suit?
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>>152374692
>>152374734
There is no defending this shit, I hope someone was hanged for this atrocious nonsense
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>>152374755
He looks like Caterpy if he did the fusion dance with Bowser
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>>152374349
>tfw you realize the Android and Cell sagas were just a giant game of everyone playing catch with the idiot ball

Like the only who didn't fuck about at all was Future Trunks
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>>152374483
>there is nothing wrong with these
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>>152374888
Stop reaching in an effort to decry literally 100% of the anime as having terrible animation. A lot of the animation is indeed atrocious shit but those two instances were fine.
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>>152374927
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>>152374986
Not an argument
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>>152374792
Not sure why but he should use it often
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>>152374927
I am willing to give the one with Trunks a pass, but if you actually think that shit with Vegeta and Frost is ok, you need your eyes checked
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>>152374525
how is going to give birth?
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>>152374349
Yeah I just caught up on episode 74. From what I read the UT Arc is suppose to start soon.
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>>152375021
Didn't say it was, just laughing at your post.
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>>152374637
Why couldn't frost be a chick
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>>152374755
>fifthmember.jpeg
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>>152375066
Through the peepee
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>>152375106
Can't wait till Goku meets his Father.
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>this entire thread
We really need those leaks.
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>>152375164
that sounds painful anon
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>>152374349
Zamasu was a pretty lame villain.
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>>152374349
>implying QUALITY will stop Zamasu loving himself
Like a ningen like you could do anything about that
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>>152375091
I-I'm not him
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>>152375316
Zamasu got Miki as his vocalist.
That is a 10/10 for me.
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>>152375316
Truth
>>152375375
his post*
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How did Black and Zamasu travel through universes?
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>>152375419
"Kai kai", my nigga.
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>>152375419
The same way Shin can travel through universes I guess.
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>>152375419
KAI KAI
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>>>/co/89213205
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>>152374856
Trunks only gave a damn because he wanted revenge and to prevent that future from ever happening. Literally the only reason Goku gave a damn was because he wanted a good fight, and everybody else was just sort of there.
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Anyone have the webm of this scene?
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Will Vegeta ever have a major win in Super?
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>>152374349
It's shit. There, discussed. Stop watching this shit you faggot assholes, you're just encouraging them to continue to pissing on the franchise.
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>>152376217
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>>152376266
Whoops, I meant the anime.
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>>152376217
Frost, Magetta, and Cabba.
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>>152376165
No, but while I was trying to search for it (and not making it) I finally found Jewgeta
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>>152376344
>Frost
dirty cheater who's weak as shit
>Magetta
farting robot lol
>Cabba
that was a training session for him
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>>152375316
Sounds like something a filthy ningen would say
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>>152364466
GT Bra was underused, not bad. Have her be another Bulma outside appearance and she'll be okay.
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>>152374385
No, he's a ningen
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>>152374856
>Trunks did nothing wrong
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>>152374856
>being this retarded
wew
>>152377708
>filler
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>>152377891
>n-no this didn't h-happen because it was f-filler
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>>152377989
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>>152378034
Trunksfag detected.
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>>152378086
Not even, you're just retarded. Here is Trunks fucking up.
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>>152378171
>ur retarded xD
Got any other epic middle school comments, you underage little cock sucker?
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>>152378316
ss4 is such a shit transformation. it looks even worse than ss3
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>>152378413
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>>152378413
It's a cool idea but
M A G I C P A N T S
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>>152378441
anyone have the blue version of this?
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>>152378441
this looks even worse

>>152378443
super saiyan should always have gold hair. this retarded black hair/red hair/pink hair/blue hair recolor gay shit nonsense needs to fuck off
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>>152374349
Bring back the casual wear.
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>>152378497
Blue looks fine.
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>>152378544
>this lazy as fuck deviantart recolor looks fine
Superfags, everyone. I bet you think pic related looks fine too.
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>>152378544
I love Super Cyan because I love the colour blue..
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>>152378642
Toriyama himself said he wanted to make it white and also make a new white one.
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>>152379237
What's your point, Superbaby?
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>>152379284
>Superbaby?
I used to watch DBZ in 96, before it was even dubbed.
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>>152379317
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
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>>152379327
it means you're pathetic for calling me a super baby.
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>>152379353
I'm not that anon, retard.
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>>152379403
then shut your whore mouth.
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>>152379456
>mouth
No one is talking.
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>>152379480
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>>152379456
>>152379353
>>152379317
Triggered. Go ahead and kill yourself, Z babby.
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>>152379559
>>152379456
>>152379284
Samefag
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>>152378642
>>152379237
No, he wanted to make it white but thought it would be better to save white for a villain. People aren't sure if he meant Merged Zamasu or something coming int he future.
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>>152379676
also before it was blonde he left it blank.
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LEAKS WEN
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>>152381129
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>>152374349
don't wanna
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>>152381329
>2.33 MB
Why
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>tfw no filler about 16 and his aviary

Why couldn't they wished for Shenron to rebuild him?
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>>152376266
based vegeta. Too bad he goes down like a bitch against enemies 10x stronger than him.
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Got chills from this line.
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>>152382293
What a retarded post.
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>>152382340
are you some kind of ningen faggot?
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>>152382395
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>>152374349
So the manga is better than the anime right?
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>>152382437
Multiverse is better than both.

Prove me wrong faggots.
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>>152382437
no. The manga is universally hated and regarded as non canon
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>>152381795
Might be out of his power or some bullshit like that
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https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/all
Viz has a page for free chapters, where you can find Dragon ball super official translation . Would be nice to see someone rip it.
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>>152382532
Fuck off. You've been given rips threads ago.
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does anyone have Vegeto v Zamasu webms?
Much appreciated
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>>152382543
Where?
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Post sakuga,I want to appreciate this show
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>>152382577
>>152382623

>>152382614
Seriously where?
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>>152382437
Pretty much, only deviant art tier autists would deny this, also the manga is canon.
>Toeicucks will deny this
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>>152382663
Look at the archives.
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>>152382663
I absolutely love how they drew Super Saiyan Blue for these scenes, they get the colors right with the lighter, more cyan shade to them.
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>>152382794
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>>152382794
>>152382663
>mfw 90% of this fight was shown in the episode preview prior
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>>152382461
>Vegetto The Crybaby and Mary Bra Sue: The Show
>Better than anything
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>>152382663
>yfw last fight of the universal tournament by Naotoshi Shida
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>>152382951
I was just thinking about that, shit anyone have Edgito's fanfic crap? I need a good laugh.
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>>152377891
>>152377708
>using filler

wew retards
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>>152383154
>shit reading comprehension
Retard
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>>152377708
>Trunks could have flattened her with one punch and Cell would have never been able to absorb her.

He probably wouldn't even have needed his super steroids form to do it.
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>>152383356
>can't accept being wrong
wew
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The blu ray just finished downloading for me and I'm not sure why but these episodes feels more enjoyable and better to watch knowing not even knowing they didn't change much. Re-watching Goku fight Black and Goku fighting Zamasu felt like a better experience than the TV broadcast. Am I supposed to feel this way?
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>>152382667
no it's not
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>>152383499
>wew
wew
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>>152374637
THICC
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>>152383531
>having fun
NOT
ALLOWED
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>Cover already out

Soon, guys
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>>152384366
>Blue sparks
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>>152384712
(You)
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>>152384712
>>152384760
you forgot the canon vs non-canon autism
which by the way, manga is THE canon and always has been DONT try to refute me youll end up looking stupid

>inb4 japanese have no concept of the word "canon"
fuck you nips eat regurgitated shit so what? thats why the west makes things better by categorizing it
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>>152383499
Don't worry bruh, everyone else can see you're right.
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>>152384712
t. Autism
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toyo=George Lucas
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>>152382437
They're both shit but the manga is slightly better yes.

Plus it won't waste as much of your time as the anime to catch up to some shit tier garbage story who's there purely to suck as much money as it can from the fans.
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>>152384841
>being this retarded
wew
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>>152384876
manga is not canon, it is not made from Toriyama
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>>152384922
Who?
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>>152384875
>that hidden hi
BASED ANON STRIKES AGAIN
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why these threads feel so different from the rest of the board
DBS threads feel more like I'm on /tv/ or /v/
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>>152384985
Well what do you want to talk about exactly? DB threads are notoriously bad when there is no new material to discuss. We are currently stuck in filler and nothing to speculate with the newer arc.

also /tv/ is horrible, one of the worst boards. /v/ can be slightly better at this time. /a/ is mostly discussing current arcs or new material, otherwise expect shit
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>>152384979
You've gone insane.
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>>152384875
>>152385183
>>152385191
what? reported for endless hi faggotry
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>still no fucking leaks
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>>152385593
Wait until the 21th.
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>>152374349
How did this get animated, when it is worst than some bad but readable fan fiction from the 90s.
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>>152385725
solely on name brand recognition. if it was not dragon ball, super could never make a profit.

the real question is why dont they try to at least make the animation average, toei has so much resources to dispense but they are indistinguishable from some small starter company in quality.
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>the gohan anger theme will never play again in the show because gohan will never be relevant again

how does this make you feel?
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>>152384922
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>>152386048
Nobody cares
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>>152386087
>tfw I'm nobody
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Where the fuck is the new chapter? Some guy said it would be on the 16th like last week.

It's the 18th right now bitch
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>>152386048
>cell was a better trainer for gohan than piccolo was and help him unlock more power than he could even fathom
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>>152386152
Last V-Jumped leaked earlier for some reason. It seems like we're going back to normal schedule.
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>>152384366
>Sparks, not bubbles
THE MADMAN.
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>>152386152
>Some guy said it would be on the 16th like last week.
All that some guy did was estimate this month's based on last month's early leak.
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Post Gohan and Videl love please
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>>152386233
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>>152386208
>>152386178
So when will it leak
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>>152378518
Honestly, one of Vegeta's best looks is his EoZ outfit.
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>>152386123
you are noticed senpai

>>152386182
the as fuck smug goku

>>152386253
she is a cute but needs some doujin

>>152386278
hillary clinton bulma looks like shit
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>>152378518
>>152386278
I agree. I'm tired of seeing Vegeta wearing armor. Surely he has to take it off and relax sometime right? I know the guy liked the train most of the time but i'm pretty sure he has a bed and he sleeps comfortably.
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>>152374349
They're doing the whole "gods are transcended beings" "can't feel their energy" thing bleach did with aizen ichigo right?
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>>152386393
Probably can't be fucked designing a new outfit for him.
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>They will make 10 years whort of filler and end with the exact same scene in the tournament like in DBZ
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I have a feeling the only way they can completely be safe is to separate their universe apart from Zeno. That's how I feel when I watch EoZ. Beerus and Whis aren't there.

Toriyama even said in the end it will all make sense.
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>>152385593
tomorrow i promise
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>>152386456
everything was a dream
>2deep4u matrix ending
captcha:anderson
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>>152386453
>after all of this they still don't fix Z's ending
Please don't do this to me.
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>>152386505
Wait what's wrong with Z's ending?
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>>152386619
>poo in the loo
goku being a shit parent for 1
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>>152386687
My only problem is that canonically something happens post-EoZ but we never knew.
I don't know how accurate pic related translations are but Toriyama hints that new villians will appear.
Something stronger than Buu. (I know Super has stronger enemies but the story did not exist in Toriyama's mind at the time so the latest enemy was Buu.)

I feel like Uub is truly the next hero of the franchise, not Gohan. We will never know what happens.
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>>152386743
In addition, I really hope Super/Toriyama creates at least ONE saga post-EoZ to end the suffering.

This ending is the worst because it seems like a build-up to another arc but we never got it. Kind of like a cliffhanger.
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>>152386743
>We will never know what happens.
>People still think Super will go beyond the tournament.
>Uub
It's been like almost 8 episodes, pan is never growing up, bra is not canon anymore, and Goku is already a god, things look rectoned as fuck by now.
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>>152386778
>>152386743
>what is gt
>inb4 not canon
inb4 its shit
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>>152386853
>bra is not canon anymore
shut the fuck up noob.
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>>152386853
>bra is not canon anymore
I hope you're not trolling. It was revealed Bulma will be pregnant.

>>152386858
not canon
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>>152386853
>Bra is not canon anymore
What rock have you been living under? Episode 77, faggot.
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>>152386858
GT is both of those
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>>152386853
>bra is not canon anymore
Not sure if bait.
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>>152386869
GT is canon your agree?

>>152386920
THOSE ARE FILLERS NOT CANON. only gt is canon cumon dense mothefucker

>>152386924
super filler are not canon, GT is canon
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>>152387006
i from india but you agree yes?
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>>152387021
no from south america from india

also how did you know my english is to bad?
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>>152386984
>super filler are not canon, GT is canon
>in response to Bra being in Super
But she was in GT as well you monumental faggot
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>>152386687
>poo in the loo

Not that anon, but there's absolitely nothing wrong with Uub and with the fact that Goku wanted to take him as a pupil.

>goku being a shit parent for 1

If most of the manga didn't convince you that he's not a perfect parental figure, what made you believe that aspect was going to suddenly change in the freaking epilogue? If anything, he turned out to be a decent grandfather and he finally got to train on of his kin into martial arts himself without fucking Chichi interfering.
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So can we all agree that we could replace this guy with Dio Brando and nobody would be able to tell
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>>152387150
is that a jojo reference?
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>>152387150
Is this a reference to the ongoing 30 year old manga series JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, created by Hirohiko Araki?
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>>152387190
>>152387197
this is getting out of hand
I HATE THIS MEME
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>>152387190
>>152387197

no, this is from the Average Adventures of George Joestar and his acquisition of ancient relics
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>>152387221
this will be the new way to instantly derail DB threads. get your little boipucci prepared anon

fresh memes are here
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>>152387150
I still can't believe they took this character from a magazine in the Buu saga and made a mini-arc about him.
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>>152387365
Here I was thinking he was Mr Satan's blond lackey from the Cell SaGa with a new career
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>>152386778
>it seems like a build-up to another arc but we never got it. Kind of like a cliffhanger.

I think that was Toriyama's idea, so he can continue the story whenever he wanted
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>>152384712
kid buu is stronger than super buu
broly was a good villain
manga hit is better than anime hit
piccolo and king piccolo are the same person
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>>152386966

It doesn't say Bra anywhere. For all we know, it'll end up being Oob or a new character. The Dbz end is not cannon anymore, as Toriyama already stated.
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>>152387948
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>>152388214
>The Dbz end is not cannon anymore, as Toriyama already stated.

You love pulling things out of your ass, don't you anon?
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>>152388214
>as Toriyama stated
Prove it.
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>>152388214
>as Toriyama already stated
This meme needs to die. You're not on a site where we don't know better.
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>>152388214
>For all we know, it'll end up being Oob or a new character
>Bulma's pregnant
>it'll end up being Oob

?
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>215 posts
>60 unique IPs

sunday can't come soon enough
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>>152388474
Sunday is still filler, it's not gonna change anything.
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>>152388214

Animefags, everyone.
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>>152388511
thread quality skyrocketed when the last two filler episodes aired and were still fresh
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>>152388534
>thread quality skyrocketed when the last two filler episodes aired
Top kek
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>>152388534
No it didn't, it was just filled with people calling the anime shit and waifu fags
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>>152388534
Not true but slightly better than usual. There was a ton of cuck posting, everyone was shitting on Videl or whiteknighting her. just a different kind of autism from the usual kind.
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>>152388657
>There was a ton of cuck posting

It was actually mainly Gohan shitposting.

Cuckposters tried, but it never caught on.
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>>152388686
>>152388799
lol videl a shit

shes a cuck tippity kek
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>>152388917
t. Barry
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I hate all of you stupid motherfuckers.

Here, have some QUALITY.
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>>152388955
I love you, but your bait is weak. Up your game we can purge the shitters here

tfw no baby pan doujin
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Barry is voiced by the same person who voices Champa
You can hear that especially during that part Barry is frustrated Videl didn't take the bait and then he gets infected by Baby 2.0
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>>152389010
This is no bait, that really does look like shit.
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>>152389032
I agree, but if DB fandom can agree on anything it is the amount of QUALITY in Super. Preaching to the choir I guess.
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>>152389026
>Barry is voiced by the same person who voices Champa

No, actually, those are two different seiyuu. I can't remember Champa's seiyuu name, but him and Hiyama(Barry's seiyuu) are notorious for their yelling and over the top style.

There's another example of both in Kill la Kill where they both also worked. Champ's seiyuu voiced Fukuroda, the president of the boxing club and Hiyama voiced Sanageyama, the president of kendo club.
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>>152374551
>>152374604
>>152374734

Do u guys have nothing else better to do than post these same webms in every thread?

Trying to incite some more cancerous anime vs manga "debates"?
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>>152389577
t. animefag in denial
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>>152378497
Im sure you are more happy with SS Furry right?
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>>152389595
>not liking SS Recolor means I like SS4
That's always the reaction from retards like you. You get all butthurt that I don't like something you do so you immediately assume that I like something you DON'T like so you have an excuse to start flinging insults.

No, SS4 is even worse. Now fuck off.
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>>152388511
This. We need real content like the next arc episodes or manga chapters.
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>>152389585
Denial of what?

The movie re-tellings sucked balls, everyone knows that. No one is going to gain anything from seeing the same Freeza.webm everyday

also a couple of hit-or-miss scenes from the newer arcs. So what?
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>>152389695
>also a couple of hit-or-miss scenes from the newer arcs
If you think that it's because the only things you've seen from the new arcs are those webms.
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>>152389715
No I'm up to date. Yea the animation and fighting choreography has gotten a lot better in general.

But there are still a few iffy scenes
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>>152389626
Im sure you are more happy with the ugliest (and most useless) SS form known to mankind?
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>>152389626
Or who could forget the revolutionary SS2? (SS1 + "sometimes" sparks + "sometimes" spikier hair)

You could make "SS1 or SS2?" into a guessing game for Vegeta, Adult Gohan, Black (apparently)
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>>152389918
>>152389976
Personally I think continuing to progress with forms after SS was a fucking stupid idea.
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>>152389918
>ugliest form
anon...
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>>152390128
lack of techniques are the real problem. SS3 Gotenks tried to do something different however. Punch and kicks get a bit boring after a while, especially with the way Super animates.
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WHERE'S THE LEAKS?
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>>152390410
He is right, SS3 is ugly as fuck.
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>>152390446
It's already Thursday in Japan/Korea so the leaks should come out at any moment now.
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>>152390436
I loathe Gotenks as a character but I do agree that his techniques were creative and fun as fuck. To a certain extent so were Vegito's, the weird invisible wind slice thing he used in the anime and his spirit sword are pretty badass and then having him fight as a jawbreaker was stupid but fun.

I just thought it was annoying to progressively introduce ramped-up SS forms. "I'm stronger!" "No, now I can be stronger!" "HA! I have gone EVEN FURTHER BEYOND strong!" It felt like a fucking recess game of pretend with that one little shit who always had to have the last word.
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>>152390128
>Personally I think continuing to progress with forms after SS was a fucking stupid idea.

They needed some method of continuation.
It seems cheap because of how excellently SSJ was built up to and the execution of it's arrival.
I think putting numbers on the end wasn't helpful, though – could SSJ2 really not have been like a slightly boosted alternative, that pushes the limits of perfected SSJ?
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>>152374856
Yeah. Kuririn could've killed 18, Vegeta decided to let Cell achieve perfection, Gohan wanted to torture Cell, Goku's plan almost fails(but it didn't and he was the only one with a plan).
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>>152384985
Because there are a lot of people from /tv/ and /v/ posting here.
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>>152390544
damn you bring up those nostalgia feels.

>tfw never was stronger than that really autistic kid who got the last power up in
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>>152390128
It doesn't help that they built up SSJ to be this ultimate transformation, then they surpass that, then it's surpassed again with SSJ3 and then Gohan just becomes more powerful anyway.
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>>152390557
I didn't mind the x50 multiplier, I thought it was a good way to showcase a type of Kaioken that didn't totally decimate your body after five seconds. They just went completely fucking crazy with the "This isn't even my final form" meme. SS, whatever the fuck you want to call Super Vegeta and Super Trunks, SS2, SS3, SS God, SSB, it's just power creep and it sucks.

>>152390607
No one did anon. That little faggot will go to his grave undefeated in the autistic game of pretend.

>>152390646
I like to think the Funi dub was poking fun at that with Vegeta's "Super Saiyan bargain bin sale" comment. It'd be like if we discovered that Norse mythology is real and then after that it's revealed there are like seven pantheons of gods above those.
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3-0 when.
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>>152390767
Vegeta got his ass kicked on Earth, he even admits it was a loss, and he "won" the second fight after it had already ended in a draw and neither were active combatants. It'd be like losing or drawing in a boxing match then following your opponent outside the arena and knocking him out from behind, then saying it should go on your record as a win. You're autistic. Die.
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>>152390767
Hey i know you, that is some good bait but fairly unpopular. one day you will be a high grade memer with many (You)s just keep trying anon!
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>>152374385
Gohan can mean Rice as well as the middle meal of the day. It can also sometimes simply mean, "Food" because it's assumed rice will be a part of most meals. Mostly these secondary meanings are a result of the fact that Rice is a very common meal, they're slang. The core translation is still Rice.
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I had this weird dream that there was a path to Beerus' planet on Earth called the "Godtube", and it had been there throughout the entirety of DBZ, DB and beyond, that one accesses by standing in it and powering up, and when one does they're sucked up through it and taken to his home-world in seconds.
The reasons they hadn't found it before was that it was completely invisible and undetectable, essentially a crap-shoot of powering up in the right place or Beerus telling you.
I dreamed that Piccolo found it whilst frustrated and training, got zipped up to Whis/Beerus, and stunned, asked if there was a way that a Namekian could unlock godly powers like Goku and Vegeta, to which Whis replied that he could with training.
Goku threw a shit-fit about this because he didn't want big Green to be as strong as him.
What does this mean for Doc?
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>>152388955
And anons here complain when i use the same type of QUALITY pictures with the manga, using "t-those only are close-ups, so they dont count!" as an argument...
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Sad how the best animated scene in DB Super happened in the Beerus arc and how it only lasted less than a minute. Does Toei lack a brain? Why use your best animator in a recap episode and not the new ones
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>>152391329
Its Dragin Boll.
People will eat that shit not matter what, so why even try?
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>>152391292
If it looks like shit it looks like shit whether it's the manga or the anime. And I'm speaking as a mangafag
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IT'S FUCKING HEREEE
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>>152391419
Still no leaks of the damn chapter though.
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>>152391419
Can you give me your copy of that Antique Gear??
Though i would love that Xeno Goku too.
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>>152391362
Why do you fags even keep coming here if you hate DBS so much?
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>>152391329
but that's not Vegito vs Merged Zamasu in that webm anon
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>>152374349
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>>152391677
It still didn't looked as good
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>>152391593
To remind fuckers like you that this anime is utter shit....and to read the manga which is sightly better
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>>152391861
Are you fucking gay or something?
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>>152391753
>>152391874
Do not fucking start this shit you inbred mouthbreathing unemployed basement dwelling tendy fondling cuck fucks. I swear to fucking god. Don't fucking start.
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>>152374622
>Magical Seifuku Cyborg Lifeform Pretty Sailor Cell
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>>152391329
But that's not Goku/Trunks vs Black/Zamasu
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>>152391974
Are you seriously calling this piece of shit good anaimation?
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>>152391974
That Goku vs Beerus fight looks a lot better than the shit in the Future Cucks arc, anon.
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>>152391925
Not that anon, but Cell isn't all that bad
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>>152378443
>The Book Of Mormon in script form as Narrarated by Gogeta
>Foreword by Gilbert Godfried
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>>152391419

DBZ Card Game? Do we know anything about how it will play?

I rather liked the one Panini was putting out.
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>>152392029
Wrong scene and wrong fight
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>>152392105
That's just Heroes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_aJ4DG2lBQ
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>>152392144
If you think this looks better or has better choreography than Beerus vs Goku you need to get your eyes checked or stop sucking Zamasu's dick.
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>>152392035
Not really
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>>152392178
You sure have weird taste anon

Oh well to each his own...
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>>152391861
>your friends
But I don't have any friend, anon, what are you talking about?
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>>152392184
At least post it without a filter anon
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>>152392184
Yeah, still looks better. The amount of reaching you Blackfags/Zamasufags are doing is hilarious.
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>>152392220
I'm not saying these look bad, they don't, but they don't look as good as the fight from the BoG saga.
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>>152391723
I dont know what you're talking about
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>>152392223
Black's hand after he finishes dancing with his sword like an edgehog looks like shit and Goku flying out of the smoke cloud looks laughably bad, Christ

>>152392298
This is the only argument that can be made for Beerus vs Goku not being the best animated section of the series. Vegito vs Zamasu looked good as fuck
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>>152388534
>thread quality skyrocketed when the last two filler episodes aired and were still fresh
Yeah, it sure did.
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I havent watched much of super yet.
Did blue seriously become the new gold?
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What about this?
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>>152391753
you live a very fulfilling life anon. also why are people just now realizing toei has very inconsistent animation
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>>152392226
Not even a Zamasufag, and I'm pretty much a Beerusfag as much as a Blackfag (even though i dislike the movie re-tellings)

But come on anon. That webm of Beerus vs Goku had good art, but the fighting choreography was okay at best. At least compared to those Zamasu arc fights.
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>>152392223
>>152392220
>>152392184
>>152392144
Seriously, edgy laser hand sword has to be the worst, laziest and more generic bad guy move ever. And the worst part is that it is canon. The scythe is even worse
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>>152384366
>SSB2
Oh shit
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>>152392570
I didn't have a problem with it because it isn't a new thing to the series, the Scythe was retarded though and thank fuck it barely appeared
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>>152392661
Vegito never used it like a sword just a very long beam so i never had a problem with it....until zamasu and black came out
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>>152392482
There was nothing wrong with the choreography in the Beerus vs Goku fight, and there was never any choreography in the Trunks arc that I'd say is good until Vegito and Zamasu fought. Everybody blows the Future Trunks arc and its animation way out of proportion.

Maybe I'm just biased as a shameless Beerusfag, but it still looks better
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>>152392726
>>152392460
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>>152392460
Vejituh's face looks kind of wonky at certain parts but this looks good
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Why is SSB a jobber form in the anime?
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>>152393031
Because the anime is shit. Not to say the manga is some sophisticated and flawless work of art, but it's definitely better.
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>>152393031
Because it shows more fights but can't have them win I guess?
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>>152393126
That's wrong though.
The anime is inconsistent and poorly-written, but can be fairly fun.
The manga is better written, but the source material is still shit, so overall the writing still amounts to little worth as a sub-par hack tries to squeeze logic out of the illogical, and just makes it less enjoyable in the process by attempting to take it seriously.
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>>152393193
>That's wrong though
In your opinion, maybe.
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>>152393193
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>>152393226
That's not what that even means.
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>>152393193
just admit that the manga is better and stop trying to pretend like the anime isn't atrociously animated and written, toeishill.

at least the manga takes the time to explain things and uses logic instead of going with bullshit like hit being able to magically power up constantly because fuck me, right? and don't imply that the manga isn't "fun", there are plenty of stupid beerus/whis shenanigans and the mario kart chapter is arguably better filler than 90% of the filler the anime has shat out

and super saiyan blue doesn't look like a pathetic piece of shit in the manga. i bet you're just crying because black got BTFO
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>>152393342
>just admit that the manga is better

But that's untrue.
Anime = Stupid fun that doesn't care about how exaggerated and retarded it is, has based filler episodes
Manga = Tries to take itself seriously despite being innately retarded, no fun filler, garbage-tier for 12 year olds
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>>152393247
>to depend on something that is useless; to make a futile attempt at something.

i.e your futile attempt at defending the shitty anime
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>>152393390
good job not reading the entire comment before responding. typical of toeishills though, i know you lot are illiterate as a rule

also stop trying to act like your opinion is the one true fact you dumb bastard.
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>>152393390
You're basing your entire argument on "hurr durr le based epic filler episodes", which is also inadvertently admitting that you've never read the manga because you claim it doesn't have any "fun filler".

You're a fucking retard, anon.
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>>152393342
>Beerus/Whis
>Mario Kart
Also the little Beerus/Kaioshin moments and the interaction between the two Trunkses. I've enjoyed all of those far more than any of the anime fillers (only filler I liked was the baseball episode).
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>>152393465
>You're basing your entire argument on "hurr durr le based epic filler episodes",

lol no
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>>152393342
>the mario kart chapter is arguably better filler than 90% of the filler the anime has shat out
>arguably
>only 90%
u wot?
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>>152391419
SCOOOOOOP
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>>152393523
you're such an illiterate toeishill that you can't even read and comprehend your own comments? fuck anon, i'm sorry i've been so mean, i didn't realize i was talking to a literal retard
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>>152393423
>stop trying to act like your opinion is the one true fact
>>152393342
just admit that the manga is better and stop trying to pretend like the anime isn't atrociously animated and written
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>>152393525
Baseball and Arale were pretty fucking great, but Mario Karts beats out every other ounce of filler. Yes, even the Goku vs Monaka and the absolute shit Saiyacuck trash that we just had to sit through
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>>152374856
Yamcha didn't do anything. Well, except not immediately recognize that an old man in Hammer Pants and an albino fat clown look suspicious. But then again, this is Dragon Ball.
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>>152393598
>cuck this cuck that
>cuck cuck cuck
>cuuuuuck
>no argument
I accept your concession.
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>>152393193
>>152393390
>all these mental gymnastics
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>>152393634
Wow, the threads get more active when the anime, which airs weekly as opposed to monthly, is active? Holy fuck anon, you must be a genius or something.
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>universe tournament
>cabba and his squad show up
>years later so cabba is slightly taller with more muscle definition
>shows off to vegeta that he can now turn ssj2
>introduces his team
>pic related walks up from behind
>cabba: "this is my little brother, Broly-kun. he'll be fighting with us"
>little broly sees goten and trunks and gives a friendly head nod
>trunks: "what's with this guy? is he fighting in the tournament? I bet even I could beat him"
>goten laughs
>cabba: "please.. don't make fun of him.. he has anger issues. when he gets mad, he.. changes"
>trunks: "whatever. just don't cry when my dad beats you"
>trunks walks past broly and bumps shoulder
>broly falls to the floor
>trunks: "oops.. maybe watch where you're standing"
>goten once again laughs at broly
R I V A L R Y
I
V
A
L
R
Y
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>>152393683
(You)
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>>152393692
This is fucking autism of the highest caliber
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>>152393720
Toyopedros are done
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>>152393720
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>Thread is manga vs anime again

I thought we were past this stupid fucking nonsense. Kill yourselves, all of you.
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>>152393825
toeishills BTFO
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>>152393825
I mean if you're breathing that shit in it's not a wonder you'd be coughing, at least for Black, since Zamasu has been shown breathing in space
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>>152374395
Top kek
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>>152393825
based

>>152393858
toyopedro absolutely steaming with rage
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>>152384366
Ooo, what's that yugioh card? Is it new?
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>>152393825
meanwhile
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>>152393960
How can the manga recover?
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>>152389010
>baby pan

BABYFUCKERS O U T

I'll tolerate lolicons, but not your kind.
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>>152389976
>Adult Gohan

You mean Teen Gohan. And I mean ACTUAL Teen Gohan, from the Buu saga.
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>>152393825
> solar flare should never work

Why do toyocucks keep pushing this?
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>>152394180
See >>152393226
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>>152390763
>Super Saiyan bargain bin sale

Of all the dumb things they added, that wasn't one of them. Even the original Japanese/manga had that.
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>>152394140
Who cares u knew what i meant
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>>152394206
D-do you know what that phrase even means?
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>>152394233
Yeah but clearly you don't.
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>>152394262
Yea sure whatever

Still my point is no reason why a Solar Flare-like weapon wouldn't work
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>>152376217
post the daily vegeta getting picoloed
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>>152394319
See >>152393226
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>>152382663
sliding animation was retarded
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>>152394363
> i dont know what to do but link the same pic

Great argument u have there. retard
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>>152395088
nice ad hominem
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>>152395175
> "ad hominem"
> no argument (this time by linking irrelevant pic)

Oh it's you again
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>>152395778
Its not actually the same guy that is saying anime > manga
im just calling out your ad hominem
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>>152374395
4th most protifable anime franchise.
fight scenes look like this

Un fucking believable Toei
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fuck it im going to watch GT
is it really that bad?
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>>152395846
It's even more baffling considering that is Super Saiyan Rage's debut fight.

It gets better later, but fuck man
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>>152395939
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>>152395978
is that supposed to be good or bad
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>>152395978
>Goku save us
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>>152396052
That's up for you to decide

GT does have one of the best DB openings in Japanese though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJcuDgVYjgI
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>>152394208
it can't
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>>152379284
>Superbaby
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Leaks?
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>>152386853
Who the fuck cares if Bra is canon or not?
She is another boring and useless character like Pan.
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>>152396508
Not yet
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>>152393604
>even the Goku vs Monaka
But I loved that one, it's one of those episodes where forgotten characters like Chiaotzu and Puar did something.
>>
>>152374755
I wonder if the turtle suit will be on Xenoverse 2 or 3
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>>152395978

I wonder why Super hasnt used stills like in Z or GT, it would better than QUALITY.
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>>152396429
I honestly love Baby Vegeta's design.
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>>152393193
This.
Honestly I never had any fun with the manga.
So far it failed to provide hype moments like the anime.
When I watch DBZ I'm not after anything smart, I just want some cool looking fights and powers. I don't care much about logic, I actually want logic to go fuck itself.
The crazier the fights the better.
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>>152396794
I thought that one was good too, I just prefer Mario Kart.

>>152397500
>I like to just turn off my brain and mindlessly scream like a drooling idiot when pretty explosions happen
I'm sure you jacked off to Avatar.
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>>152387150
Somebody hold the phone, did Buu copy his face?
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>>152397587
yes
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>>152397713
Can't believe they made a mini-arc about the late great Barry Kahn
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when Goten 31 and Brah 25 they get together? please?
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>>152397814
No unless you go to convice Toriyama
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>>152397814
Never ever.
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HOT LEAKS COMING THROUGH
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>>152397953
>A fucking dwarf
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>>152374349
I don't pay attention to this show but holy fuck the animation is soooo bad xD
>>
>>152397953
I'm glad that the Gods of Destruction aren't all cat people.

I have a feeling that all of the angels/attendants are going to be the Grand Priest's children though
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>>152397953
We're getting more Toyo art instead of the anime team? Why?
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>>152398129
Looks more like Toriyama drew them
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>>152398129
That's clearly Toriyama's art.
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>>152397953
That dwarf looks good
Can't say the same about his angel
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>>152398267
The manga will surpass the anime, they said
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>>152374470
It doesn't even look like they're hitting each other very hard.
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JUST
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>YonkouProductions ‏@YonkouProd 16s16 seconds ago
>DBS Manga is not yet done with the Future Trunks arc as of Chapter 20. Still good amount to go.

Told you autists. Toyo knows what he's doing, nothing is being rushed this time
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>>152398267
That's good to know.
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>>152398318
SHUT UP
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>>152398305
They misinterpreted his comments. Toyo himself surpassed the anime and is sending scans to them. The manga stays at it's normal pace.
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>>152395944
Trunks blowing up Black's summer house is still the funniest thing in Super.
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>>152398318
We better get more qt pie angels like Vados
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>>152398318
"Don't talk to me or my son ever again"
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>>152397953
OH MY FUCK A NEW GOD OF DESTRUCTION

MUH DICK
>>
Why does this guy always take forever to leak things? Starting to think Youkod steals other people's work.
>>
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>>152398392
Killing the love shack is unforgivable

>>152398366
Yeah, he's more than likely ahead in production considering they used his art in the Survival Arc trailer
>>
>>152397576
>>I like to just turn off my brain and mindlessly scream like a drooling idiot when pretty explosions happen
>I'm sure you jacked off to Avatar.

Not him, but shit nigga, loosen up.
The DBS manga is about a smidgen smarter than the anime, and still brain-dead overall.
It's not like one doesn't need to switch their brain off almost as much to pretend the manga is remotely intelligent.
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>>152397953
Nice to see the other GoDs aren't all animal people. It'd make Whis wanting to train Goku for the position look rather odd if everyone else was an animal.
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>>152397953
I will find funny if that guy is somehow stronger than Beerus and Champa
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>>152397500
>So far it failed to provide hype moments like the anime.
Because you already know what's happening. The U6 fighters first being shown was hype, as was Frost transforming. It's hype when you have no idea what's going to happen, it's obviously not hype when you know in advance since the anime already did it
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>>152393525
>Trunks beats Beerus with the Blue Shell of Destroyed Friendships
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>>152398541
My bad, that was thoughtless

I ate a Snickers, I'm good now. Anime is fun, that's why I still watch it despite preferring the mango
>>
Why does Toriyama love creating manlets?
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>>152397953
That arena reminds of Kami's Lookout mixed with a Dreidel
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Why is Salagir so obessed with Broly?
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>>152398318
Design looks fine to me. Dwarfs are funny.
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>>152398682
They get popular
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>>152398741
Broly's power is maximum, that's all.
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>>152398318

Gimli from the Lord of the Rings?
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>>152398741
The real question is, why aren't you obsessed with Broly.
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>>152398318
Toriyama is a fucking hack
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>>152392714
It's literally called the Spirit Sword.
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>>152398682
Because Toriyama is best boy
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>>152398820
Would you rather they all be cat people you fucking sperg
>>
Chapter 20 is about Goku and Vegeta retreating back to the past.
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>>152397887
fuck you, why not?
best way to unite the bloodline of vegeta and kakarrot.

>>152397858
where can he be contacted? hmm?
>>
>>152398878
Really?
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>>152398884
It just won't happen, faggot. It's a very "un-Toriyama" couple.
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>>152398810
lol
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>>152398873
I rather it not be something straight of skyrim you retarded ass nigger
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>>152398878
Shame. I wanted Goku and Vegeta to stay and Trunks and Mai leave.
>>
When will this fucker release the leaks? I hate when yonkou handles leaks
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>>152398878
HAHAHAHAH KEKATARO FAGS BTFO

>I-it was just toei filler o-our guy
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>>152398878
At least the ningens will lose once
>>
>>152398878
Manga fags completely and utterly BTFO. Mafuba soon.
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>>152398950
Yeah, me too.

>>152399073
I think pretty much everyone was expecting at least one travel back to the past.
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>>152398878
Sauce?
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>>152399113
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>>152399113
>>152399073
Didn't you fags wanted actual capable villains?
>>
>>152375165
That's never going to happen since Bardock is dead.
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>>152398318
Glad this angel doesn't wear lipstick like that homo Whis
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>>152399133
YonkouProd
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>>152398878
GREAT. Only one time travel to the past. The anime had like 3. Fucking Toei once again fucking shit up
>>
>>152398943
>there were dwarves in Skyrim
Are you fucking stupid? How is a purple cat person any better than a dwarf? You stupid fucking furry, shut your mouth and don't ever post again.
>>
>>152399113
No we're not. We said there'd be one retreat.
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>>152399160
Whis is NOT gay
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>>152397953
>18 tracksuit
Cute.
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>>152374349
So why did the nameless Namekian (Kami/Piccolo) come to earth in the first place?
Haven't watched through dragonball in probably 10 years so I don't remember if it's explained
>>
>>152399204
Kill yourself you retarded cuck
>>
>>152399321
What the fuck did I just say about not posting again?
>>
>>152399315
I think he was still a baby so who knows.
>>
>>152399321
By the way, there are no dwarves in Skyrim. Nothing close to a dwarf exists.
>>
Why won't this faggot just release scans instead of attention whoring on twitter
>>
>>152397953

Thank god not all of them are cats.

In b4 one is a loli.
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>>152399204
Wipe Toriyamas cum off your mouth and then come back and tell me those designs are good
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So because Goku and Vegeta are retreating..

Does this mean pic related?
>>
Seems like Black didn't turned Rose in this chapter either but Zamazu beats Goku
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>>152399410
They're not holy shit fucking amazing best thing, but you autistic spergs exist solely to shit on any new designs he comes up with. Except fucking Black, no, Black is perfect.

This is the last time I'm going to tell you to stop posting.
>>
>>152399408
The only loli will be Gowasu's new apprentice
>>
>>152398764
That white undershirt is kind of funny.
>>
>>152399378
Yonkou is shit. I bet he's actually getting those pics from someone else, so that's why he didn't post the chapter yet.
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>>152399457
>Gowasu gets a cute loli kai
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>>152399420
Yes, they're gonna get stomped
>>
>>152386966
If they forget to put her a tail i will be angry.
>>
>>152399457
Who then becomes the loli of time and hires trunks to do her dirty work
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KITAAAAA
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>>152374349
alright niggers I have decided to become a complete faggot myself and read the Japanese manga.
WHERE can I find a scan of the Japanese manga of DB/DBZ/DBS in color???
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>>152399450
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>>152399315
Sent away from Namek during a planet-wide natural disaster.
>>
>>152399567
>4chan filename
Nice try faggot.
>>
>>152391419
>New Dragon Quest XI info
Shiet
>>
>>152399563
Who said anything about the Supreme kai of time?

Gowasu is going to use the Dragon balls to wish for a reincarnation of Zamasu that happens to be a cute innocent little girl with a bit of angst.
>>
>>152399187
Only 3 if you are counting Trunks' initial travel to escape from Black, the other one was when Black obtained SSR and Future Zamasu appeared, and the last one was SSA Trunks trying to stall Black and Zamasu to let the rest escape.
>>
I fucking loved it when they retreated for the first time before it got excessive.

Especially when they fell out of the Time Machine fucked up.
>>
Wait, so Black WASNT ssj2?
>>
>inb4 >>>/v/
Does anyone think he would be a good VA for English dub Zamasu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_nkDqmPD1A
>>
>>152399797
No
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>>152399731
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>>152399724
I love how people always hate on the anime and it's always the popular opinion to say that "[thing that anime did] is shit and the manga is better because it doesn't have it!"´

But the moment the manga does the same thing, magically EVERYONE also likes the thing and it becomes the popular opinion to like it.

I remember when Black turned Super Saiyan in the manga before Herms said that Toriyama stated that Black could go SS. Mangafags were damage controlling and saying "IO-Oh, ROSÉ IS SHIT AND NONCANON!" but the moment Herms' translation came out, they all started sucking off Rosé once again and saying Toei was shit.
>>
>>152399797
1:46
>NINGEN
>>
>>152399854
What are you talking about? I'm an animefag.
>>
>>152399854
Mangafags are cucks, in other news water is wet.
>>
>>152398943
>Skyrim invented dwarfs
They are not even in the fucking game
>>
>>152399854
>But the moment the manga does the same thing, magically EVERYONE also likes the thing and it becomes the popular opinion to like it.
Same with the Toeifags. They didn't liked how Vegeta was thrashing their dear Black but now that he deafeats everyone and have to go back to the past they hate it. FUCK THIS FANDOM
>>
>>152399914
I'm a fan of the manga, but I can say it's not that Vegeta beat Black, it's HOW it was handled.
>>
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>>152396429
I love how DBGT is literally just revenge stories.
>>
>>152399941
whatever you say pedro
>>
>>152399974
>I'll resort to using buzzwords... that'll show em
Manga fans like you give us a bad name.
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>The arc is long over
>People are still getting BTFO'd by it
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>>152399797
He's great but I don't picture him for Zamasu.
>>
>>152397953
Most of it isn't anything new.

18's bio mentions we might see "combination attacks" with #17 and Kuririn.

The pillar at the center of the stage acts as a clock (I'm assuming it works like a sundial). The semi-circular think is for the spectators and the smaller structure is Zen'ou's throne.

Team battles confirmed.
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>>152400004
Who the fuck said i was a mangafag
>>
>>152393942
Looks like a new ancient golemn which doesn't make sense since the Obelisk force stop playing awhile ago.
>>
>>152397953

I wonder who's the Supreme Kai connected to that God of Destruction?
>>
>>152399846
Why would he want to become nipples? Are we setting up for rubber walrus protector arc already?!
>>
>>152398318
A FUCKING DWARF
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>>152399846
sauce
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>>152400205
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>>152399651
>loli sporadically muttering "ningen" under her breath
>Goku/Vegeta shit themselves thinking Zamasu has been legit transplanted into her
>she's completely clueless

Please
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>>152399147
Yes but SS1(2) Black losing to SS2 Vegeta still happened.

And Black going from jobbing to winning with just SSR is a huge jump and power-scaling error

Maybe now that he has SSR he'll exhibit some personality hopefully
>>
>>152398318
I want to know their names NOW
>>
>>152399450
If this is true, Toyo really lost his mind...
>>
>>152400375
>Beerus: not this shit again.
Beerus would kill her and Gowasu. He told he'd do it if Gawasu isn't more careful for his next apprentice.
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>>152400379
>Maybe now that he has SSR he'll exhibit some personality hopefully
He already showed a lot you edgyfaggot
>>
Base Black < Base Vegeta
SS1/2 Black <<<< SS2 Vegeta
SSR Black >>>> SSB Vegeta AND Goku
Explain this
>>
>>152399854
>I remember when Black turned Super Saiyan in the manga before Herms said that Toriyama stated that Black could go SS. Mangafags were damage controlling and saying "IO-Oh, ROSÉ IS SHIT AND NONCANON!" but the moment Herms' translation came out, they all started sucking off Rosé once again and saying Toei was shit.

This shit was annoying. It's like manga-only fags were already preparing the damage control
>>
Youtube suggest videos aren't always shit I guess

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9nFmkfuNT0
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>>152400379
Nothing can be worse than pic related
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>>152400462
SSR is a better transformation than SSB.
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>>152400039
>Team battles confirmed.
Fuck yes
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>>152400462
Toyotaro isn't a particularly good writer and he's trying to rattle some sense out of Toriyama rattling out concepts.
Honestly I prefer Toei going full retard because this shit will never make a lick of sense.
>>
>>152400379
>And Black going from jobbing to winning with just SSR is a huge jump and power-scaling error
This happened in the anime too. It's not a power scaling error. Base Black can handle SSJ3 level opponents. His SSB form should far eclipse Goku and Vegeta's. Plus he has an immortal partner
>>
>>152400462
>Base Black < Base Vegeta
Except he isn't. He's stronger than Base Vegeta. That's why Vegeta immediately went SSJ2
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>>152400597
>>152400597
>>152400597
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>>152393612
Well he agreed with the plan to not use the dragon balls to find Gero and kick his ass if that counts
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