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Flip Flappers: Countdown to OST

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Or was it uploaded already?
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>>152369966
Once the OST is out, someone needs to do a fan edit of Yayaka's transformation.

That scene deserved a better musical buildup. Henshin itself was scored alright, but the silence before it did not work. FLFL has a pretty neat "culmination" battle theme that usually went in pair before the one used during transformation (it's used in eps 3 and 8, from what I recall).
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>>152370203
Yeah I get what you mean.
It's a bit odd that they'd do it that way.
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>immediately making a new plifplaffer thread
Why do you even, it's like, I mean, ugh. Stop, just... Stop.
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>>152370429
you can't stop us
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I'm looking for the battle musics of episode 5 the most, during the rush towards the tower and inside the tower.

>>152370429
B-but we're just waiting for the OST I swear!
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>>152371007
And then the second BD volume.
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>>152370941
They looked so good in that SSJ mode.
Shame they never went back to it after gaining henshin.
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>>152371007
Looking forward to the memory dome track the most, I think, although I thought they overused it from there on considering how distinct it is.
The trailer track is also based.
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>STILL talking about this
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>>152370203
Does Yayakat have a theme track though?
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>>152371294
Calm your tits Yayakat
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Atatatatatatatatatata
HOKUTO
HYAKURETSU-KEN!
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>>152371189
>trailer track
ripped from BD v1 menu: https://streamable.com/nhody
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>>152371646
Neat. Thanks.
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>>152371574
"You are already dead"
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When the fuck am I getting my figures?
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>>152371953
Yayaka is such a pretty boy.
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Flip Flappers was amazing up until Sempai episode. Then it all went down hill from there. Felt like it was pushing its "go be independent, hikki man, don't be ruled by your overprotective mommy" too hard.
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>>152372213
>he doesn't want to be ruled over by Mimi
Shit taste
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>>152371953
I want Yayaka to be my husband! (female)
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>>152372213
it gets better again from episode 14
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>>152372688

Yes it does. Yes it does.
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>>152372213
But episode 8 was one of the most fun, ep 9 had Yayaka's sacrifice and Mimi wrecking everyone was fun to watch, Yayaka's henshin was great too and the pure love ending was great tool.
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During the wait
>album preview
>http://www.e-onkyo.com/music/album/laca9484/
Though this site seems to even block my jp vpn from ordering.
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>>152372636
does that make you a wife (male) or are you gonna be gay married?
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>>152373126
Husband (female) and husband (male)
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>>152372944
>53 tracks
This is a fucking huge album. Are there any other anime with even bigger soundtrack albums?
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>>152373418
30-40 seems to be the average from what I've seen.
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>>152373418
>Are there any other anime with even bigger soundtrack albums?
Most of them?
Watch more anime.
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>>152373418
>http://www.e-onkyo.com/music/album/laca9484/

Mob Psycho 100 is like 60 some...But then some of the songs are less than 10 seconds long.
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>>152373552

I'm and idiot and don't post on 4chan. Ignore my highlighting things from a different post.

>>152373512

Eh, I mean when they're multi-cour
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>>152373623
>I'm and idiot and don't post on 4chan.
Could have gone the whole thread without mentioning that.
Lurk moar or don't post at all, fag.
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>>152371528
Track 37 is her cue in combat.
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>>152373948
That's Buu-chan's henshin theme, though
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>>152373726
If you're gonna fuck up, fuck up all the way.
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At this rate, Flip Flappers is going to become a Madoka-tier circlejerk
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>>152374041
Make sure you fuck up all the way back to where you came from.
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>>152372944
>51
YES
This is what I've been waiting for.
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>>152374016
It's reused for him. And once in the lab.

Alright, I've found the track they should have used in episode 12: track 47. Later on (the preview cuts before that) it has a pitch perfect buildup for 51.
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>>152374093
Don't worry, the mods will start deleting them soon enough.
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>>152374093
But smaller, and without the vast amounts of eternal OC, and with a show that's still struggling to not be an utter flop despite being popular but it seems only in the west.

I'm just kidding, it's nowhere near that level, not even close, not until we have tripfags roleplaying with each other and blogging about their daily lives on general #583.

We still got a little bit more of information coming from the director here and there, some last pieces of official art and a few things to discuss about the series, and the OST and blu rays which we don't know if they'll change anything for the last episodes or not.
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>>152369966
>Flip
>>>/int/
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>>152372944
荒れ果てた広野 ~Pustá země~
フリップフラッピング! ~FLIP FLAPPING!~
フリップフラッパーズ ~FLIP FLAPPERS~
ならず者 ~Tulák~
fuck i'm hype as for these full tracks
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Still waiting for that OST to appear on animebytes...


>>152374348
Ep3 was so crazy good. Still can't forget my happy shock when they suddenly pulled that off, I could hardly believe the cute girls and magic show was suddenly pulling this off.
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>>152372944
13 is so damn comforting...
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>>152374945
>...
Kill yourself.
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>>152375381
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>>152375381
...............
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>>152371953
>Papikek is actually 40 in this picture
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>>152369966
Episode 8 insert song was the one true GOAT.
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>Hi. I'm Papika, PhD in 2nd wave feminist theory, and I'm here to tell you why glue-gushing gonorrhea geometry is not necessary for sexual satisfaction.
>First, observe the way my lovely assistant (that's you, Cocona) wraps her thighs around my head. Many skeptics on the Christian right have made dubious allegations about whether or not this is natural. I ask you, gentlemen, that if this is not natural, how can you explain the snug way in which these divine pillows hug my face like a pair of sapho-erotic earmuffs?...oh! Smells like lavender today....Cocona would like that part struck from the record.
>Secondly, we know from past, well documented experiments that Coconas and Cocona prototypes do not respond well to phallic contact. The Cocona Mk Mimi was so dissatisfied with Salt- I mean...the subject's inadequate penis, she almost blew up everything and tried to consume her daughter with the gaping, blood belching maw of eldritch horror that he had left behind.
>Now, I know what you are all thinking. "But we need warty hotdogs to manufacture more Coconas! How can you deprive the world of such majestic beauty?" While it may be true with our current technology, Cocona and I have been searching her fridge and dresser drawer extensively for a substitute. We expect to make a breakthrough some time in the next year, though further trial runs may be needed to confirm our findings.

>Finally, I feel the need to address the question that PR has received more than any other. "Alright, Papika, I get that Cocona has a life-threatening allergy to weenies, but surely that doesn't mean she needs 'your' lesbo-mutant ham wallet, right? Why can't she be with an ugly blonde slut with no curves?"
>We here at Papika industries take your concerns very seriously, and we appreciate your letters and the return addresses on them. Thank you and goodnight.
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>>152375830
I thought you were PhD in ghetto aerospace engineering.
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>>152373262
>heterosexually gay married

Fucking flfl threads
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>>152375852
Papika's enormous intellect was destined for greater things than that.
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>>152375852
2nd wave feminism is basically aerospace engineering but with female genitalia.

You need escape velocity if you want to smash that glass ceiling.
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>>152376072
>>152376133
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>>152376232
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So uh...No news yet, huh?
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>Cockona
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>>152377435
downloading
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This guy walks up to your girl at the bar and does this. What do?
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Cute Nyunyu.
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>>152377569
>Papicunt
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>>152377887
You have my attention.
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>>152379122
ep8 insert
https://my.mixtape.moe/evjktw.mp4
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>>152379185
Thank you based anon.
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>>152379185
it's good
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track 32
https://my.mixtape.moe/pceprg.mp4
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>>152379185
That's the one song I wanted the most!
Thanks a lot.
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>>152379185
>>152379263
It's not working for me for some reason.
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>>152379382
Try opening it with a different browser.
Firefox didn't work for me but Chrome did.
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trailer
https://my.mixtape.moe/tkmjhu.mp4
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henshin
https://my.mixtape.moe/jlvbfp.mp4
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>>152379622
Desert fight, please
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YES ITS OUT!
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>>152379671
https://my.mixtape.moe/obxrdo.mp4
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>>152379746
THANK YOU SO MUCH
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>>152379185
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>>152379746
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>>152371189
>memory dome
https://my.mixtape.moe/syrqah.mp4
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so is there a torrent out?
dont feed me just wanna know if it's out there
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>>152379930
No but I'm sure it'd be out soon. I'll stop after this one.
>victory theme
>https://my.mixtape.moe/jlecoi.mp4
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>>152379970
You're doing gods work but you could be doing satan's by making us a torrent,
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>>152379970

Can you please post these 3 ?


26-Mad science
29- Pure Illusion
52-Oltre l'arcobaleno
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>>152372944
https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/tvanime-furippufurappazu-orijinarusaundotorakku/id1192179174?l=en
>not using nip appuru credits
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>>152379263
sooo good. thanks man
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>>152379970
can you do track 1. flip flappers?
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>>152380521
>>152379554
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>>152380604
thanks just figured it out!
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>>152380131
>I'll stop after this one.
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>>152380821
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>>152380882
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What should season 2 be like?
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>>152381108
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>>152381150
Right.
S2.
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>>152381150
More of episodes 1 to 6.
Other Amorphous gatherers that they have to battle.
Going into Pure Illusions to help people or to fix peoples memories or mental states that have been disrupted by badguy amorphous gatherers.
The exploration of different pure illusions based on different life experiences.

JUST
LIKE
MORE
PURE
ILLUSION
also we need to see that space ship pure illusion and the bubble beanstalk pure illusion
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>>152381150
Out of creativity, Oshiyama?
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>>152381579
Oshiyama is now still sick in bed after not sleeping for 4 days.
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>>152381150
Maybe set like five years later, showing how the characters developed.

Nyunyu is now Hidaka's lab assistant, who constantly annoys him with her presence.

Sayuri is some kind of local politician, maybe? She keeps the amorphous children.

Yayaka is a genius who got into a really good school-- turns out she could be an effortless overachiever without asclepius breathing down her neck.

Cocona decided to become an artist, to recapture the feelings she got from Pure Illusion, after losing the ability to go there for some reason.

Nobody knows where Papika went.

Maybe they all get jobs in a reformed Flip Flap, guiding a new group of girls on an adventure of self-discovery in Pure Illusion, just as miraculously amazing as this season's cast.

We have to find out more about Bu-chan. What are his(their?) dreams, likes (besides masochism and the bodies of underaged girls) and dislikes? When he looks at himself in the mirror, is he horrified by what he has become, or does he think the whole robot thing is pretty neat? Can he can ever go back to being human? What if he gets to have his brain put back to his old body on the weekends, and this whole living wastebasket gig isn't "who he really is"? What if he's actually a lounge singer or a pretty-boy lady killer in his human form?

Maybe have some high "drama," with Papika acting as the main antagonist, but it turns out the whole thing was just a misunderstanding that got resolved, but played with real emotion.

Should end with a marriage. Between three people. Not saying which three.
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>>152381693
>>Nyunyu is now Hidaka's lab assistant, who constantly annoys him with her presence.
>ooooh what does this button do?
Please tell me I'm not the only one old enough to remember this show.
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>>152381150

more flapping, less flipping
and much less flopping
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>>152381809
Since my childhood I hated this annoying slut.
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>>152381809
>>>/co/
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>>152381897
not enough alt-right western cartoons, unlike Flip Flappers.
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>>152379970
>meta tags say this triumphant, uplifting song is called "Trading Places"
>trading places is the one thing in this show that you must absolutely, never ever do if you don't want to create a lot of tragedy and grief.
>Papika and Cocona, through their henshins etc... do this constantly.
And you kids say that Flip Flappers isn't dark!
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>>152382049
>『大逆転』(だいぎゃくてん、原題:Trading Places)は、1983年に公開されたコメディ映画。
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>>152371127
It still rustles me how one side of their stockings looks like spray paint.
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It has finally arrived!
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>>152369966
What's the species? Why do you guys hate it?
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>>152382185
>What's the species
bait
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>>152379622
>>152379554
Dem osts.
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>>152382177
Luck you!
I'm so fucking jealous right now.
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>>152382177
Wait was that thing in the background official art?
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>>152382247
it's a doujin
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>>152382185
b... but I like it!
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>>152382247

A doujin, it's pretty faithful to the original story though. I didn't read it fully yet, but it's about them going to Jack and the beanstalk PI and there is giant Sayuri and Yayaka mentions how Cocona always seem to fall for older women.
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>>152382090
Like I said, dark
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>>152382185
Looks kinda like a cross between a coral Trout and any kind of generic tropic Grouper, definitely edible.
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>>152382103
The gradient was kinda cool, it was unique at least.
The color scheme might have been better though, black/white with a bit of pink for both, not sure if that was the best way to go.
Something more colorful and that matched their color schemes would have been more recognizable.
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>>152382715
My issue isn't with the color but with the appearance of artificiality that spray-paint effect introduces. It just looks jarring.
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>>152382549
The plot sounds a bit odd but that art looks great.
If it has more puppy and kitty playing with their Cocona it has to be good.
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>>152381693
>Nobody knows where Papika went.
NO.
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>>152382734
It's artificial and jarring but think about it, they're in pure illusion, so it doesn't need to make sense.
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>>152382734
didn't even notice it until you mentioned it wtf
still not jarring though
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>>152382769
It's not about it not making sense, it's about it not looking good, at least not to me. Jarring as in visually jarring.
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disc 2 track 10 giving me that isis vibe
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>>152382820
How so? I'm not getting that.
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>>152382902
track name
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>>152382920
it's hindi
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>>152382974
literally the same thing, all arabic scripts are terrorists

-Sent from USA
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>>152382801
On the contrary I found that pretty cool looking.
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I wonder if ostfag will upload more tracks.
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>>152383977
He said he wouldn't so we're gonna have to wait for them to pop up somewhere else
don't worry, it'll happen. The sales might have flopped in Japan but at least the show has some good fans in the west.
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>>152384064
Oh cool, was gonna up the iTunes rip but I'll let that guy do it in higher quality
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>>152384211
>He said he wouldn't
Please upload!
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>>152384211
I don't feel like pirating it all on the first day of its release when the anime flops so hard. So I stopped.
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>>152384277
Are you the ost uploader anon?
You already shared the best songs so thanks for that.
I get what you mean, I'd feel a bit sad with sharing the show's stuff for free too in that position.
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>>152384310
No not that guy sorry. Don't want to bother stripping Apple DRM if I don't have to. I also have the physical CD coming on Thursday so I'm pretty sure someone will have a rip by then anyway.
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>>152382177
Now you just have to scan it
Or just take photos of pages
I need it
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>>152384520
There's already a rip out.
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>>152384791
I think I'll just buy it
>inb4 >buying music
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>>152384791
>700mb
What the hell? Is that FLAC?
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>>152384903
I bought it too, but the rip will hold me over until it arrives as I didn't want to spend too much on shipping.

>>152384791
Yes.
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>>152384903
>inb4 >buying music
This is Flip Flappers we're talking about here, you better damn well be buying the music.
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>>152384791
Give us the damn link, I dare you
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>>152385046
Y-yeah totally.
I bought it too guys.
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>>152385078
Mother fucker! the moment i finished posting >>152385046 i get this fucking Email about my order. They can't say shit like they sold out, i pre-ordered the damn thing.
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>>152385064
I'm not posting the FLAC. Anyone who knows what they're doing should be able to tell these aren't lossy transcodes.

LACA-9484.7z
http://www81.zippyshare.com/v/fsVrFGFU/file.html
LACA-9485.7z
http://www81.zippyshare.com/v/ZO2Z1daq/file.html
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>>152384791
What tracker m8
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>>152384981
Amazon shipped it DHL for 950 yen, wasn't that much for 2 day shipping
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>>152385255
I don't usually use Amazon. 950 for 2 day shipping is pretty nice though.
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>>152385151
Thanks for spoonfeeding.
No seriously, thanks.

It's funny how Nyaa is actually pretty shit when it comes to finding OSTs for non-popular shows (for example the OST for Anti-Magic Academy is still not on Nyaa), while some anon usually has it in some obscure thread at 5am in the morning after release date.
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>[Mashin] [170118] TVアニメ「フリップフラッパーズ」オリジナルサウンドトラック「Welcome to Pure Illusion」[第8話挿入歌「LET'S FLIP FLAPPING!」収録] [320K+BK]

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=890457
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>>152385588
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>>152385588
baaased
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>>152379882
Wasn't around but thanks.

>>152385151
Thanks a lot. The FLAC will show up at some point anyway and this more than does it for listening purposes.

>>152385588
And it's up there too, I guess.
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>>152385151
Why is disc 2 so much better than disc 1?
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>>152385588
>0 seeders 63 leechers
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All right, now to wait for the figures.
Doujin, anon, please
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>>152385726
Trolled hard
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>>152385734
>ordering after the album came out
Come on, you knew this was going to be great after episode 5 and 8 came out.
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>>152385734
Just curious, why does everyone use CDJapan? They have jew shipping and you're just gonna get fucked like anon >>152385149
I'd rather take my chances anywhere else.
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>>152385588
It's time.
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>>152385588
>>152385151
I'm hearing tracks I never noticed, 06. ゴルドベルク変奏曲 BWV988 for instance is beautiful, must have played in the first episode. Time to rewatch I guess.
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I have received a ost of flip flappersfinally today.
It was wonderful.
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>>152385794
Amazon's copies are already sold out until the 21st anyway, so it's not that big of a deal. And CDJapan offers the points system and shit. Waiting a few extra days for shit to arrive doesn't really matter, and I dislike Amazon for personal reasons. It sucks that the guy got his order postponed, but he probably just pre-ordered too late. I had no problem getting mine shipped out.
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>>152385822
Just because a track is in the OST doesn't mean it has to appear in the anime. It could be from a cut scene or not used at all. I can name a few shows where this is the case.
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>>152384709
That is a super cute Papika.
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>>152385888
Well you paid ¥200 less so you got me there
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>>152385822
Didn't that song play with some of Iroha's scenes?
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>>152385794
I don't know any better
>>152385778
First try, then buy
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>>152386248
CDJapan is fine if you're limited in options, just remember the golden rule: Never SAL
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>>152385778
I'm a shitty fan that doesn't have the money to buy it, but I knew it was going to be great since episode 3. At 1 I had suspicions and at 2 I was already hype but 3 was when I was ready to bet it was going to be great.

After that it kept getting better and peaked at 9 for me.
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Wrap up party of the Flip Flappers.
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>>152386413
Seiyuus seem so much more cuter than the average japanese girl for some reason.
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Flip cake!
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>>152386510
They are.
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>>152386591
What a cute cake.
It looks so pretty.
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>>152386591
Amai!
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>>152386591
Wow!
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Welcome to the Pure Illusion.
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>>152386591
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>>152386591
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>>152386591
>someone got to eat actual Papicake
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>>152386591
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>>152386692
Why are they covered in semen?
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>>152387188
they're lying in shallow water on a beach
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>>152387188
Cockona is a horny pervert.
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>>152382549
>and Yayaka mentions how Cocona always seem to fall for older women
That is genius!
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>>152387210
Its most noticeable on their thighs.
That doesnt look like water!
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>>152387236
Maybe they're exhausted after scissoring
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>>152387236
so what you're saying is that what they're lying in isn't water...
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anyone got a link to the document?
you know the one, i think it was posted 2 threads ago, it had all the redpills in it an anon was making it
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>>152387668
>redpills
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>>152374268
>0:01:33
WHY
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>>152387668
Use the archive you lazy faggot.
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>>152382049
It's called 大逆転, so big reversal. Basically coming back from a pinch and winning, which is what the song is usually used for.
The subtitle is likely meant in that way since the other subtitles in the languages I get seem to simply be translations of the Japanese title. 研究室 ~Laboratory~ 暗躍の夜 ~Nuit des manœuvres secrètes~ 時の逆流 ~Backward flow of time~ 不安 ~Anxiété~ etc.
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>輝いてく、フリップフラパーズ!
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>STUCK IN CUSTOMS
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>>152379185
Why is it so fucking short?
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So, do we agree that Eva was Flip Flap's doom? It's obvious the anime was influenced in the second part with the idea of "pushing the plot forward" and "having character introspection with flashbacks".

Fucking Eva. Fuck this anime.
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>>152369966
god damn this ost is so good
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Damn, the OST is so good.
So, 側に… is the Over the Rainbow arrangement that plays during the Cocona and Yayaka flashback while 虹の彼方へ is the one that plays when Cocona and Papika are playing in the snow and some other scenes with the two of them.
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>dat perdo de kontrolo
epic
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>>152387188
that's light corn syrup, common stand-in for semen in the effects industry. Calm down.
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>>152390055
So is that a blanket? Papika is handing Yayaka a blanket for Cocona? That's cute
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>>152390055
This article is so cool, but Papika should be the one holding Cocona
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>>152388296
Hope you're ready to pay an extra hundred dollars just to have them release it to you.
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>>152387236
>Wow, Cocona. You were THIS wet!
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>>152390395
It's just 19% though
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Found a Flac version here
http://www.tsdm.me/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=785958&extra=page%3D1
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>>152387668
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1op4t5YrC1QoCRy7pW3z0n5clS9Vi694vZbS7wByisU4/edit
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>>152391569
someone translate please
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>>152386510
That's because nowadays seiyuu are idol-tier. They're chosen for their looks.
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>>152391422
It needs more Uexküll / Bu-chan
The play a very important role
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>>152391679
>I love you, Yayaka!
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>>152391569
Papika:
>I love Yayaka!
text:
>Yayaka taken by surprise by Papika's airheaded yuri [something]
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>>152391854
Don't fall for it, she's only after your cream box.
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>>152391569
the feet looks kinda weird
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>>152391875
>she's only after your cream box
I just spat my coffee exactly like in that pic. You did this on purpose, didn't you?
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>>152392037
Not him, but I didn't even realize the possible implications until your post.
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>>152391422
I love those comments since I can kill time by reading/watching those references now.
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>Cockona
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>>152374348
Why the random czech words?
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>>152393946
Probably the same reason as for the random English, German, Italian and French titles.
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>>152394002
But czech is unknown memelanguage. Why'd they use it?

t. czech
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>>152394036
what does it mean anyway?
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>>152395530
Barren land, Rogue
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>>152395530
Pustá země means Waste Land
Tulák means Wanderer
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>>152395644
>Rogue
Vargant*

Vole.
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>>152395668
>>152395689
Same shit pičo
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>>152395751
rogue =/= wanderer/vagrant
you have a dictionary don't you?
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>>152395751
Rogue určitě není to stejný jak vargant/wanderer.

Když jsme u toho desu wanderer bych spíš řekl, že je "poutník". Ale pořád je to blíž k tulákovi jak tvůj rogue.
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>>152386413
Looks pretty comfy for a disgusting 2.5D social thing.
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>空飛ぶ期待感 ~Flying expectations~
Is this track used anywhere in the show?
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>>152395787
Actually, the original meaning of rogue is a synonym for vagrant.
It's meaning gradually changed only because they were typically associated with deserters and criminals
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>>152397167
we aren't talking about original meanings here
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>>152397340
It applies here because whatever meaning of rogue you're thinking of is a connotative baggage ascribed to the dictative meaning. There's a good reason the archetype of the "dashing rogue" is still something relevant in discussion of fiction. Getting caught up in connotation is silly when singular words can hold so many disparate connotations.
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It seems they just run their song names through translators of different languages. I see english, czech, german, french ..
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>>152395810
>u toho desu
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>>152395751
>>152395787
>>152395810
>>152397167
>>152397340
Before this comfy thread gets ruined: I (>>152395668) just used Google Translate, I don't speak Czech.
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>>152397508
>French, Italian, German, Czech, Finnish, Hindi, Esperanto
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>>152397487
that doesn't explain why it applies here

you can't say "words take on connotations over time" then declare that you shouldn't apply them without reasoning.
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>>152397629
>Esperanto
Now THIS is meme language.
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>>152397740
It has nothing on Latin. Quiquid latine dictum sid, altum viditur!
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Out of those two, rogue is the most accurate translation to the Japanese title, ならず者.
Considering how some are very accurate and others slightly off, it really seems to be the case that they were translating the Japanese into other languages.
I know nothing about Czech and am just stating what the initial intention behind the choice of the word seems to have been. Not seeking to join the discussion of meanings it turned into.
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>>152397898
>being this autistic about the translation of a track title
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I love track 51
been waiting on this for ages
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>>152397677
I'm not claiming that you shouldn't apply them, simply that it's not necessary to nor is it incorrect to not apply a particular connotative meaning when an alternative is still in use.

Referring to a rogue as a noun is still clearly identifying the referent shared by vagrant. The only way you could take issue with this is if you're so limited in vocabulary that you've never encountered the word used as a noun, or because you're so out of touch that your familiarity comes exclusively from RPGs. Rogue's use as a verb and adjective both come from its meaning as a noun and the RPG fantasy archetype comes from the association between vagrants and criminal activity.
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>>152397968
It's an elixir to my ears. I've been craving this track ever since episode 1 gave us a taste of it.
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I think the album cover >>152379420 is a subtle reference to the band members.
>pianist
>composer with top hat
>guitarist
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>>152397985
you're just dancing around my question. please explain yourself from >>152397487 when you said it applies here. you provided no reasoning.

put up or shut up.
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>>152398042
tracks like these come once a blue moon
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>>152379263
listen to this while watching this http://i.4cdn.org/k/1484754709084.webm
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>>152398158
Why are you getting upset.
I already answered your question:
The original meaning of the word rogue applies here because the original meaning is still in use. There's no reason to expect a translation to avoid applying a valid use of relevant language. Rogue is equally valid to vagrant or wanderer in that translation as they all share the same referent, which is congruent with that if the original japanese phrase.

Do you have a counterpoint or are you going to ask me to repeat it again?
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>>152398158
>>152397985
Both of you are both right and wrong because the meaning of words is ultimately not objective. That we can write useful dictionaries at all is just a result of the fact that for the most commonly used words there's wide agreement. Prescriptivists have tried futilely for centuries to dictate how language should be used, but language as a system doesn't respond well to that kind of deliberate marshaling.

With rarer words, or with very particular shades of meaning, it's much more difficult to come to a consensus because the word or the context you're using it in isn't used commonly enough by a large enough portion of the population. There are "rogue waves," for example, the name of which could be interpreted as a really bad wave that causes damage, or a wave that nobody expected or with unprecedented force. "Vagrant" in common usage can mean wanderer, but if you hear a policeman talking about "vagrants" you can be pretty sure he's not talking about the orbits of the planets.

tl; dr: STFU
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>>152398381
thanks for explaining yourself. i think you should try to be a bit more concise next time. your posts were full of a bunch of stuff that was tangential but not actually answering the question asked.
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>>152398055
>tips fedora
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Anyway, I agree with >>152395689 , vagrant or wanderer is probably a better translation because it doesn't have the implication of lawlessness or unsavoriness (Papika is a rule-breaker, but only with regard to the statutory AOC) but I also agree with >>152395751 that it's a perfectly acceptable translation.

What should NOT have happened is for >>152395751 to get pissy about being corrected and for >>152395787 to respond in kind.
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>>152398708
I always come across as pompous but I'm really not trying to be a jerk
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>圧倒的な力 ~uberwaltigende macht~
I don't get it. Is it so difficult to find and display the umlauts?
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>>152398805
>>152398708
>>152398506
(all me btw)
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>FLIPPU FLAPPING is only 1:30
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>>152398964
>-PINGGU
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>>152398627
I thought that line of reasoning was self-evident but I always forget that not everybody here has english as their first language.
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>>152385822
It's from J.S.Bach's Goldberg Variations. Here's a free download of them all: http://www.opengoldbergvariations.org/
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>>152398824
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>>152399086
Ah alright, haven't looked at the pics yet.
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>>152398708
ならず者 is supposed to have implications of lawlessness though.
It's about the masked guys, not Papika.
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>>152398708
Vagrant actually does have the connoyation of lawlessness, to the extent that it's sometime used to describe criminals who have none of tye attributes of an actual vagrant. Vagrant children for example, just refers to unruly kids whose parents don't actively stop them from causing trouble.

Rogue tends to be a romantic word so it works well as a slightly elevated synonyn for wanderer.
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>>152398824
Must be the same reason it's difficult to find the shift key: "絶体絶命 ~Verzweifelte situation~" should be "絶体絶命 ~Verzweifelte Situation~" (desperate situation)
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>tfw Mimi tracks are the best
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>>152400055
Feel free to exercise your radical freedom at any time.
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>>152400055
>決意 ~Determinazione~
I waited for this track.
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>>152385149

Mine already shipped (from CDJapan), but I preordered it way in advance.
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>>152397143

Don't remember. It's a pretty funky track though. The next time I rewatch I gotta pay attention where which track is used.
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Any news for the FLAC release?
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Hi
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>>152400142
>implying the Mimi tracks aren't godlike
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>>152401616
In retrospect, I feel episode 11 was one of the best FF episodes.
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>>152402247
That's from episode 10 though
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>>152402247
It's really up there for me.
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>>152402347
You need to rewatch Flip Flappers one more time.
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Download when?
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>>152402527
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=890473
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>>152402555
but that's not the FLAC
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>>152402584
You cheap bastard, buy the artists a beer.
>http://mora.jp/package/43000033/A51793/
Or buy this.
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>>152402627
But he FLAC is already uploaded there http://www.tsdm.me/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=785958
Someone just needs to reupload it.
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>>152402584
That's ok, Salt. You won't hear the difference.
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>>152402477
Thanks for giving me the excuse
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>>152402685
Salt is an audiophile since he was a shota. He will know.
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Holy shit this thread is pure cancer. What happened since the anime ended?
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>>152402889
Shitposters switched tactics.
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>>152402889
>anime ended
This happened.
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>>152379882
Holy shit this is superb
Flawless
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>>152379970
HOLY SHIT YES
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Sorry but what's the difference between the two OSTs uploaded
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>>152403337
There is only one OST, and it consists of two CDs.
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cat is my waifu
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>>152403460
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>>152403337
One is compressed in a rar and the other isn't. I only downloaded the first one, so no idea if the other has the proper filenames.
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>>152403519
Downloaded both. 1st one has the Japanese titles, but the other has both titles and subtitles.
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>>152403519
I noticed this too

Well I'm getting the second one
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>883

Why won't you stop talking about this objectively bad and much hated anime? There's a whole new season and every show is better than this trainwreck.
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>>152403821
Because it makes you mad.
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I just finished it.

Is our world Pure Illusion?
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>>152403821
One would think you'd be too busy talking about those 50 better shows to post here.
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>>152403914
Our world doesn't have giant sky butterflies. It's even more boring than the dedicated "boring" PI
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>>152403914
As per Psychonauts, their Layer 0 is our Layer 1, being a projection of its creators' minds.
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>>152403914
Wait did you finish it finish it or are you just half way through it?
Its 26 episodes long senpai most questions you have will be answered when you watch it the second time
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>>152405018
Stop this nonsense, the story isn't difficult to understand, just some details might slip past you and some foreshadowing if you haven't watched it with /a/, analyzing every frame.
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Was this inspired by Glorantha?

Pure illusion adventures are quite similar to heroquesting.
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>>152398055
It's actually a bass.
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>>152405484
Still looks like a guitar.
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>>152405484
>Yayaka is the bassist
How did I not notice this before?

Does this mean she'll have her own Aya Hirano one day?
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>>152405547
But it has got 4 strings, anon.
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>>152405701
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>>152400202
That's some good taste you got there.
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>26. 悲しき争い ~Triste lotta~
Can't get enough of this song.
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Kossori socchi o nozoitara,
socchi mo kocchi o nozoiteta.
Hitomi no oku ochiteiku,
koko wa doko nanoka naa?
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Sotto te o tsunaidara,
tottemo yawarakakatta.
Onnaji you ni kanjiteiru to,
naze ka wakarunda...
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誰かの心が呼んでいる
世界がそれを映している
守りたいなら迷っている暇などない
何かを変えてしまうことを
恐れたままじゃ始まらない
届けるのは心から伝えたいメッセージ
一人の力じゃ及ばない
だけど君は一人じゃないんだ
目を開いて手を伸ばして
互いの心感じて
フリップフラッピング
フリップフラッピング
今思いが重なって叫ぶ
フリップフラッピング
フリップフラッピング
そう飛び込むんだ嵐の中へを
インピーダンスが高まってゆく時
奇跡が確かな光りになって輝いてく
フリップフラッパーズ
(クライマックス)

I corrected the version I found on the internet but the last sentence is leaving me quite confused. "司会あった絆それ"is all I can roughly understand. Any idea?
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Anata ga miteiru mono o,
utsushiteiru Dripping tears
Tokei o sakasama ni tadotteita
TRIPPING
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FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP tooi koe o
FLIP FLAP FLIP FLAP tojikometa
Kagi no kakatta hako o hiraitara
hora hirogaru yo
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Wall-scroll GET
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>大逆転 ~Trading Places~
I've been waiting way too long for this.
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>>152406489
That dripping tears part always sends shivers down my spine.
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>>152406700
Same anon, it's great
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>>152406475
Anon, there's a booklet in the nyaa version.

Either way, here:
誰かの心が呼んでいる
世界はそれを映している
守りたいなら迷ってるヒマなんてない
(さぁ行くんだ!)

何かを変えてしまうことを
恐れたままじゃ始まらない
届けるのは心から伝えたいメッセージ

一人の力じゃ及ばない
だけど君は一人じゃないんだ
目を開いて手を伸ばして
互いの鼓動感じて

FLIPFLAPPING!FLIPFLAPPING!
今、想いは重なって叫ぶ

FLIPFLAPPING!FLIPFLAPPING!
そう、飛び込むんだ嵐のなかへも

インピーダンスが合わせあってゆく時
奇跡はきっと確かな光になって
輝いてくFLIP FLAPPERS!!RIGHT NOW!

誓い合った絆
それがBRIGHTNESS
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Is she retarded? Sharks aren't fish.
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>>152406782
It's all the サメ shit
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>>152406782
>Is she retarded?
Are you?
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>>152406640
>+6
Hi aussie
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>>152406782
That's because that's a dolphin you fucking idiot
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Man, the visuals in episode 5 were just amazing.
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>>152406640
How long did you wait for it? I didn't even get a confirmation of anything except payment yet.
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>>152406909
My favorite episode
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Help me, Flip Flap Flip Flap is playing in my brain on repeat and I can't get it out!
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>>152406909
It was the most creative and strongly themed episode too, along with episode 3
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>>152406942
Alright anon


>>152406549
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>>152406942
Just let it be. It's not a bad thing at all.
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>>152406942
Listen to "LET'S FLIP FLAPPING!" on repeat.
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>>152406853
Crap, knew i was missing something.
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>>152406914
I ordered it on the day of release, used white rabbit express.
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>>152407286
Looks like Cocona's elbow is alright.
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>>152407157
Part of me is tempted to send you a shitpost
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>>152407286
WHY DID YOU CROP OUT PAPIKA'S FOOT
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>>152406843
In my language sharks, rays and chimeras are called pseudo-fish as they differ quite a lot from propper bony fishes.

IDK, the genetic distance between them and carp might be greater than the genetic distance between carp and doplhin.
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>>152407286
w-why is Cocona touching her like that?
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>>152407508
Cocona is a raging lesbian
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When's the next episode lads?
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>>152407836
Tomorrow.
I'm excited for Nyunyu's secret plot to be revealed.
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>松井洋平
I like this guy. His technopop tracks are so funny.
>11-へんてこおばかさん ~Funny silly~
>24-研究室 ~Laboratory~
>26-おかしな実験 ~Mad science~
>27-時の逆流 ~Backward flow of time~
>37-一進一退 ~Seesawing~
>38-LET'S FLIP FLAPPING!
Even the main tracks are laced with his techno samples.
>02-フリップフラッパーズ ~FLIP FLAPPERS~
>08-空飛ぶ期待感 ~Flying expectations~
>28-フリップフラッピング! ~FLIP FLAPPING!~
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>>152407899
What time?
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>22. 迫り来る恐怖 ~Peur imminente~
Listening to this track just pisses me off now, thanks to that fake-out PV for the final episode.
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Why the second half sucked so bad? ;_;
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>>152407286
How big is that tapestry?
And how will you deal with your guests when they'll inevitably ask questions about it?
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>>152379185
>>152379554
This quality is way better than the OST in the torrents
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>>152409391
They had schedule problems for the last few episodes, otherwise there's nothing wrong with it.
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合体だ
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>>152409822

Pops was the best side character bar none. Being the king of Tron AND getting to build Transformers must be fun.
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>>152409599
How can you tell?
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>>152409444
Width:520mm
Height:730mm
Pic compares to the largest size wall-scrolls.
As for your other question they're the ones who have to deal with it, not me
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決意 is so good.
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>>152391810
>It needs more Uexküll / Bu-chan
>The play a very important role
Will do. There's an entire section planned on animal/floral symbolism, I just need to read up on the flower language first.

>>152392204
>I love those comments since I can kill time by reading/watching those references now.
Most of the in-depth psychological comments calling out Gestalt and Collective Unconscious are from one person and I wish I could credit them by name alongside Blizz and Ange
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>>152391422
Just skimming through, but it seems like you avoided tackling the subject of Mimi's characterization culminating in her role as the antagonist.

Was that deliberate or simply overlooked?
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>>152410276
>>152409599
Because he's full of shit
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>>152411356
Please, let us know when major updates are coming.

>>152411942
I'm not the author. >>152411356 is.
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>>152411942
>Mimi's characterization
It'd probably take quite some research before one can tie it into its actual source inspiration of Jungian interpretation of fairy tales. Not easy. I tried to borrow von Franz's book "The Interpretation of Fairy Tales" but it's missing in the library.
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>>152412352
There's a notable japanese psychoanalyst from the Jungian school of thought who did a lot of work with fairytale interpretation, too. I can't recall their name offhand, but it was brought up in prior threads. They were very likely a direct source of inspiration for Oshiyama, so I would recommend trying to find some of their work to look through as well.

And while I agree relating Mimi's character to the Jungian fable archetype would be a productive direction of inquiry, you might want to start just with the simple (and likely most confusing) issues regarding her character like "why did she throw her baby away and turn into fragments?"

Since this is a guide to understanding Flip Flappers, understanding key plot points and events surrounding the primary antagonist would probably be really valuable --if possible.
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>>152412524
Kawai Hayao? No idea what's been talked in these threads since I haven't been around since the 2nd up to yesterday, but Oshiyama mentioned him as an inspiration in the interview.
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>>152412524
>issues regarding her character
I'm afraid those will be hard to defend. From what I observed casual audiences mostly find Mimi's characterization simplistic. I find it really hard to defend her characterization instead it'd be easier to explore the function and symbolism of her character within the whole plotline.
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>>152412711
That's the one, yeah.
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This really seems like an anime for elitists,my friends that watch anime casually kinda liked it and my friends that really know the community loved as much as I did.
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>>152413011
Do you know what the word elitist means?
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>>152412711
This book of his
>昔話の深層 ユング心理学とグリム童話
gave a Jungian interpretation of Hansel and Gretel (ヘンゼルとグレーテル).
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>>152413069
An analysis of how the ED is relevant based on this would be amazing.

I would also be interested in seeing how the prevalence of the apple/poisoned apple in the show relates to Jung's archetypes. I recall he had a few regarding the meaning of apples that were quite contrary to the traditional abrahamic interpretations, and which got expanded on and applied to fairy tales by later thinkers.
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>>152413069
Interesting. Can't believe I'm tempted to get a psychology book with my next manga order.

http://sosaku.doorblog.jp/archives/32617547.html
Found what seems to be a summary post on the book. Just skimmed through it but these lines mentioning the two tendencies of the representation of mother/female figures in folk tales of either kind or frightening and how to take that duality caught my eye.

Also
>第三章 母親からの心理的独立
Seems worth reading tomorrow when I have the time.
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>>152413567
The chapter on Hansel and Gretel http://pastebin.com/raw/qwGTJrkh
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>>152415100
Wait, how do you format things like that in pastebin?
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>>152415100
Nice. Thanks.
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>>152406971
Papika is a good girl. Nice chest.
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>>152406942
May you become the flip flap
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>>152415100
I also find chapter 2 fairly important where it talks about the duality of the Great Mother archetype. http://pastebin.com/raw/zEG4C2nX
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>>152387188
They're yuri juices.
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>>152415960
Are the juices different in yuri?
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>>152388009
That's my favorite song.
Reversal is a good way to put it.
It's what played anytime the plot was about to defeat them but they yuri'd up and said fuck the plot and just pulled some shit off to win anyway.
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>>152415994
They possess and sweetness and almost... magical vitality... beyond anything available to a 3D, straight, or male being. Your only hope of ever experiencing such a heavenly substance is to be reincarnated as a yuri shoujo yourself. As anime is such a small universe and yuri shoujos only make up about 1% of the anime population, the chances of that are slim.
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>>152415994
They must taste like honey or something
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>>152416037
I kind of wish this had been their main theme, sort of like Little Busters was in FLCL
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Quick

Name the best song

uberwaltigende macht
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>>152416131
Nocni mura
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>>152390055
This is so cute.
I like to think Yayaka gets to hang out with them as a friend and remains close to Cocona even though she obviously ended with Papika.
There's no reason they can't all be friends after the happy ending.
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>>152416131
Good taste anon
algo Tulák/Trading Places
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>>152411942
Actual interviews with Oshiyama have him talking about Mimi and how she was not really meant as a true antagonist.
I can't remember where but they were posted in the threads once.
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>>152382090
I just listened to the soundtrack to this movie... Seems weirdly similar, like the composers had an idea of what they wanted, but it was too banal, so they picked a song at random and synthesized it with some song for some long forgotten gaijin movie to make it into a really kickass theme.

I wish I had composing talent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-cI38Ov8KY
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>>152412775
Reception to her characterization has improved over time among those who did rewatch those parts of the show.
It's not suddenly super positive but it's much better with more understanding of her and appreciation at least.
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>>152416131
圧倒的な力
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>>152416131
Trading Places.
Let's flip Flapping.
OP/ED
Track 31 (no clue what's its name)
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>>152412775
She did have some characterization-- "My my, now which mistake should I forgive you for now, salt?"

Could have been so much better with more time.
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>>152416112
>>152416099
They smell like lillies, they taste like peaches and honey and they have a soft and delicate feel.
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>>152416369
Yeah there are definitely ways to interpret it in positive light but as an introductory piece the defense of her characterization has to be overwhelmingly convincing to cancel out the existing negative impression.
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>>152416410
And they make you literally feel the sensation of orgasm in your mouth-- but only if you're a yuri shoujo.
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>>152416369
My gripe with Mimi's characterization is that I really dig the whole idea for it. I just think the execution fell flat. I believe having two Mimis would have been fine if they made it more apparent it was supposed to represent an internal conflict between both sides of Mimi, but the way she was handled was pretty much like two completely different characters. Had evil!Mimi's characterization been less exaggerated, scenes like the getting up on the pond would have been so much better.
I still like a lot of what it did with her, but the fact so much of it simply didn't work is my main issue with the show.
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>>152416131
1# 02. フリップフラッパーズ ~FLIP FLAPPERS~
2# 27. 圧倒的な力 ~uberwaltigende macht~
3# 29. 暴走 ~Perdo de kontrolo~
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>>152416217
Well of course. She was never really evil, or even necessarily wrong. She was defeated by deciding to give up because her daughter wanted to be in lesbians with her friend really really bad and maybe that's okay, I guess.

That's what makes her role as antagonist so interesting. Papika and Yayaka fought so desperately and so hard not because Mimi was a threat, but because they wanted to apologize properly to Cocona. Cocona confronted Mimi because she'd finally found a choice that she wanted to make for herself. Mimi threw a bit of a tantrum because she's a maladjusted brat and then eventually calmed down and accepted it.

The fact that Mimi's a maladjusted brat, and the fact that the defining conflict's in the story's final act are based jointly on the long and drawn out Jungian construction of Cocona's character, and the short, compact summary of Mimi's psychological background, are part of what makes it so atypical and so fascinating. The story perhaps doesn't focus on it enough, but Mimi is an orphan science experiment who spent her formative years in a white box and learns that there is such a thing as "lake" when she's like 14. She knows two human beings her entire life, both of whom she meets as a teenager. One of them puts his penis inside her and then flakes when she becomes a teenage mom. At her lowest moment, she discovers that she has the strength within to hurt all the people responsible for her life being what it is. She does two things with this power: rescue her baby and kill herself.

That's interesting stuff. That's by far the thickest and meatiest Jungian fiber in the show as a whole. The question of how her life lead to the unique formation of her shadow, and how the release of that shadow placed self-destruction above revenge and above even motherhood, are probably things you could find described word-for-word in the right text.
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>>152416561
I would have liked to see more signs that they really were the same person, and not separate consciousnesses at all, like Mimi could be having a nice conversation, suddenly say something just slightly mean spirited, apologizing and then recanting the apology. Like she knew full well she didn't want to be who she was being, but her negative emotions were so strong.
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>>152416612
This is a good artist.
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>>152416561
The tightness of the show's presentation came undone a little bit at the end, so it;s not surprising to me that some of the more pivotal elements of visual storytelling didn't quite get their meaning across adequately.

I went back and made a comparison between the first 3 and last 3 episodes the other day. The things that stuck out most of all is the lack of distinct detail to the characters in the last 3. They very rarely had their eyes shaded, even it closeups. It was mostly limited to certain specific scenes. The subtle body language that had been present in the earlier episodes were gone too. I don't think these are damning details, but I just want to point them out as evidence of ways in which character expression suffered from the schedule crunch and it probably had a more far-reaching impact on the way important visuals were intended to appear vs. how they actually appeared.
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>>152416659
We just didn't get enough time with Mimi.
The first flashback was too far removed from the person she eventually became, probably because "Good Mimi" was a product of her years of friendship with Papikana and Salt. That gave us what was essentially a quick montage of Saltdad mindbreak and the lake scene before she was having her breakdown.

We didn't see enough of pre-Salt Mimi's negativity or the fine line that post-Salt Mimi was walking for his sake.

Waiting until episode 10 to "introduce" Mimi to the audience was a bad choice, I think. I just needed more of her to properly appreciate her character in-context of the final few episodes and their conflict.
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>>152416447
Her characterization was that of a crazy woman going on a rampage, one who had switched in pure illusion out of desperation because it was her only hope to save her daughter during a moment of extreme distress.

Her love was twisted with the switch though, so not only did she save her but she also wanted to keep her for herself locked up and she went full control freak. There's something interesting about that because she herself grew up a prisoner in a very controlled environment.

Deep down she did love Cocona though, but in a twisted way.
Through the fight she kept trying to cry crocodile tears to manipulate her into coming along with her. Those actions make little sense for a sane person, but she was not really planning things out she was just going through the motions and stuck in her delusional state.

Love turned to scorn when her daughter not only refused to go along and rebelled but also fought back.

She treated her fight against her as discipline, scolding her and treating it all as a physical punishment, taking away her powers and friends.

In the end when Cocona was actually able to damage her with her own henshin, and no longer needed her powers to do it that's when she just said screw it and snapped entirely.
And you know what they say about a woman scorned. She was throwing a tantrum ready to wipe out everything at that point.

Overall it's not the most amazing of characterizations but it does have some sort of sense to it.

Mimi was an immature and innocent young girl who became a mother at a young age and had no clue what to do. She was still very kind and loving, but after her switch all of that was corrupted and many of the worst aspects of her were manifested such as a manipulative and controlling side and a possessive side that wanted to have her daughter all for herself or else she'd just suck her back into her black hole .

She wasn't a villain she needed to be saved too. Shame that part wasn't really explained or shown.
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>>152416561
Agreed.
Give the show 1 more episode, pace everything out a bit.
Do a better job with Mimi overall and do a better job in the end and the show would have ended as perfection.
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>>152416658
Yeah, well put.
That puts a lot of it into perspective very well.

>>152416561
Agreed too.
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>>152416793
The backgrounds were also not as impressive since they stopped being made by Studio Pablo at some point.
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>>152415581
From chapter 2 of the book on the Great Mother archetype
>かくて、母性はその根源において、死と生の両面性をもっている。つまり、産み育てる肯定的な面と、すべてを吞みこんで死に到らしめる否定的な面をもつのである。人間の母親も内的にはこのような傾向をもつものである。
>Thus, maternity at its root is the duality of life and death. Its positive power gives birth to lives, while its negative power devours lives and rains death upon them. Human mothers also have this tendency internally.
>肯定的な面はすぐ了解できるが、否定的な面は、子どもを抱きしめる力が強すぎるあまり、子どもの自立をさまたげ、結局は子どもを精神的な死に追いやっている状態として認められる。両者に共通な機能として、「包ほう含がんする」ということが考えられるが、これが生につながるときと、死につながるときと両面をもつのである。
>The positive aspect is easily observable, but the negative aspect holds the child in tight grip, undermines the individuality of the child, and eventually pushes the child in to the abyss of mental death. The two aspects share the functional commonality in it being "all embracing", which manifests in both issues related to life and to death.
>人間の母親一般のこととして、このような傾向があることは了解されるにしても、トルーデさんのすさまじさは文字どおり「人間ばなれ」をしている。しかし、世界中の神話や昔話を見ると、このように人間ばなれをした恐ろしい母親像を随所に見出すのである。
We can understand this tendency is common shared in human mothers, but the cruelty of Mother Trudy makes her inhuman. However such inhuman mothers are common in fairy tales around the world [...]
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>>152416793
I think their eyes were mostly shaded in the closeups, with the exception of henshin Cocona and Papika which weren't supposed to. (In fact, Cocona's eyes are shaded in a scene where they shouldn't be.)
That said, the detail to the hair and the body language are definitely indicators of what you mention and it is quite noticeable. Presentation as a whole suffered quite a bit toward the end.

Tweets about the talk show said the schedule went to hell at episode 8, plus implications that they changed the scenario from zombie space train into mecha partly due to Kabaneri being a thing, but those were changes that should have happened earlier anyway. Hard not to wonder what exactly happened to the schedule when they started out fairly ahead.

Something else mentioned in those tweets (since I'm not sure whether someone posted them here before) is that the past parts took longer than expected.
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>>152416923
After episode 6, there should have been a subplot of Cocona meeting Mimi in PI, and learning who she is, and being so happy to get to spend time with her. Papika wouldn't quite remember who she was, and Mimi might have been slightly upset about that (showing the first hint of the side of herself she's suppressing), but she'd still be really nice. Cocona would be incredibly happy about getting to meet her mom, only... there's something not quite right about her. Some twinge of darkness that only seeps out in drips and flashes.

Then we'd get a couple more comfy PI adventures, more short Mimi sequences, and THEN Mimi could go crazy and fuck the world with clovers.

I'd have really liked that. It'd have established Mimi before her plot happened. I don't think we needed Mimi to be a big reveal.
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>>152415581
Caption for the pic:
>Good Mother <-- The Great Mother --> Evil Mother
>Life / Give Birth / Nurture / Support / Tolerate / Control / Lure / Engulf / Death
>The duality of maternity
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>>152417231
I think if she met Mimi after episode 6, we would have theorized that her appearance there was somehow caused by the "wish granting" powers of the shards. Even though she may have been vague, telling Cocona "Well, there was an incident, and something bad happened, but I don't remember any more than that," and there'd still be a tinge of darkness-- did PI trap her soul at Cocona's behest? Is this even really Cocona's mother, or is PI just giving her an illusion?

It'd still be a reveal, just not a "whole new character" thing.
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>>152416938
I don't think corrupted is the right word.
Mimi's dark side was just very powerful because her life had so much darkness. Once she got in touch with that, there just wasn't any stopping it.

Mimi was the college girl that learned what "marxism" is and suddenly is angry about everything because they see their whole life as a class struggle. Their normal personality isn't gone, but they can't stop being mad about stupid shit because they see the world differently now, and can't just make themselves "un-see" it.

I see that as sort of the tragedy of Mimi's character. She probably doesn't want to be like this, but once she went back and confronted the pure honest truth of what her life had been, she just couldn't forgive the world anymore. The division of Mimi is knowing and feeling. What she had come to know was something profoundly inhuman in its cruelty, while what she felt was something profoundly human in its compassion. But of course, how do you reconcile something like compassion when your existence has come to be defined by cruelty?

This is why I think Mimi's character is so interesting. Her circumstances are unreal, but her response to it feels very real.
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>>152417364
>Mimi was the college girl that learned what "marxism" is and suddenly is angry about everything because they see their whole life as a class struggle.
Of course you could say the same thing about "redpilled" alt-righters
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>>152417393
I didn't want to bring that shit into this thread and neither should you.
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>>152417436
Then why make a dig at feminism like that?
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>>152417231
I think the should have revealed her in episode 4's dream sequence.
Not by name, of course, but have her turn to face Cocona and maybe approach her in the boat in a creepy or ominous fashion. Then cut to the dicktree to cap it off.

They could have gone from there and had subsequent dream sequences or other side-scenes develop the idea of this "Mimi" person from past PI research while showing Cocona more of this character in the boat.

There were actually several points in the show where they set up for an exposition reveal and then defer it, eating up 3 or so minutes of screentime just to set up an elaborate meta joke about not explaining anything to the viewer when they could have been showing us instead. It reeked of "GET READY FOR THE BIG SURPRISE REVEAL DOWN THE LINE"
But then the reveal wasn't really all that big, and certainly not the sort of "blow the lid off" kind of reveal that justified us being kept intentionally in the dark for so long while repeatedly making the viewer aware that they were being kept in the dark.
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>>152417492
I didn't?
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>>152417393
>>152417492
I think someone touched a nerve.
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>>152415100
>- Gingerbread House and the Children
>The Great Mother is strongly connected to food. [...]
>The Gingerbread House in HnG is built by the witch to lure the children. The famine at the start of the story is a big contrast with the lavish food in house. The watch preparing the pastries relates to the motherly love that spoils the children, which in turn harms the individuality of the children. Hansel and Gretel experienced in short time extreme cruelty (being deserted in the forest) and extreme love indicating that such cruelty and love are the same in their nature.
>The other side of materialistic spoiling of the child is the lack of spiritual care.
>[...]
>The tragedy of King Oedipus is a presentation of the messy conflicts between the children and their parents. Freud often cited this as an example and coined the term Oedipus Complex. However, Jung considered this issue not limited to familial relationship, instead it is more related to the parental archetypes universally present in unconscious.
>The children receive their mother's love and care after being born, through which they experience the mother archetype, that is, the mother that accepts the child's everything and gives the children everything.
>As the children grow, they will realize the negative aspect of the mother, the power that hampers the individuality of the children, and they realize they must depart from it.
>Thus, the matricide theme must appear in certain stage in the process of growing up. In this case the matricide becomes the story of Hansel and Gretel defeating the witch. Note that it only happens in the mental world of the children, not in the real world.
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>>152417770
You did.
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papika!
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>>152418455
Gomen?
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>>152418498
That's not enough. You have to grovel.
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>>152418467
>that heavy duty sex toy on the right
Heavens, no wonder she wanted Cocona over
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>>152418733
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>>152415100
Chapter 6, Sleeping Beauty. I find it somehow related to Papika.
>- "Time"
>Following discussion above we can also consider the sleep of the princess as a necessary stage in the development of women. There is an interesting plot point in the Perrault's version: After the princess fell asleep, her parents were worried about what would happen after a hundred years and asked the kind fairy to make all the servants fall asleep with the princess, after which the kind and the queen left the palace, which is to say the parents left after doing what they needed to do for the princess and entrusted Briar Rose with the task to guard the princess.
>[...]
>A handsome prince showed up right after one hundred year. When he approached the fences the rose moved on its own to left and right and made way for the prince. The prince reached the princess unhurt by the rose and kissed the princess, waking her up.
>[...]
>In Grimms', even though the princess saw the prince for the first time she watched the prince with fondness. Perrault's version is more dramatic, where the prince opened her eyes and spoke gently, "Is that really you, prince? I have been waiting for you since forever."
>For people meeting each other for the first time and saying "is that really you" so confidently, it requires same years worth of mental growth. Considering the mental aspect, "one hundred years" are not literally one hundred years rather it represents the time they waited in their mind.
>Perrault's version is more terrifying where the mother of the prince is a devil, which can also be construed as the strong negative aspect of the maternity in the story is not completed diminished by the kiss. [...]
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flip blue soda
recipe
Bluecuraçao
Calpis
Tonic Water

flip Cranberry
recipe
Cranberry juice
Calpis
vodka
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>>152419170
>related to Papika.
interesting theory!
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>>152419170
So how did a kiss turn into gorging oneself on placenta?
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>>152419273
>a kiss turned into hand holding
Satisfied?
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>>152419366
Sexually: no.
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>>152419400
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>>152419366
yes please
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Are we getting an OVA or something?
I've noticed the final BD volume is more expensive than the rest. Do we know what extra we're getting with that one?
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>>152420682
It's got 3 episodes instead of 2. If there was an OVA they would've announced it already to get more preorders.
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>>152420712
I see, that's sad.
Thanks
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I finally had the opportunity to watch the last two episodes and holy fuck, that fakeout.

Besides Mad Max, what were the posters in Cocona's bedroom at Sayuri's house?
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>>152420712
it cant be helped
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>>152420712
I checked up what they did with Sora no method. They released an OVA trailer 1.5 months before the release of the final BD volume. So there is still hope in this case.
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>>152417168
Good stuff.
Sounds very on point with the way the themes could be interpreted.
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>>152421916
but it is all fan theory
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>>152421941
True, Oshiyama's fan theory of Jung.
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>>152420748

Sailor Moon, Ben-Hur, Sukeban Deka
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>>152417168

Wow, seems like Flip Flappers would be much easier to understand after reading this guy's and Hidaka Toshitaka's books.
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>>152417672
Yeah, they could have at least hinted at something going on, not shown a whole conversation, but shown that at least a conversation was going on or had happened, and let Cocona forget about it after she wakes up.
It'd still be vague to her but it would give us an idea of what was going on without actually having to show it so we know something is going on and will try to figure it out but won't quite be given the whole picture yet.
That's similar to what they did but they showed or hinted at nothing really.
Mimi might have been Cocona's past life, her sister, another personality, anything really.
There were themes to hint at the truth but not during their interactions and we weren't really shown what the significance of those interactions was, they amounted to so little.
They could have at least have them conversing a bit, in a way that was dream-like and didn't follow much sense but still had them exchanging words, like in a trance, and not hinted at Mimi's identity visually but through the sort of stuff she said. Like giving Cocona some comfort, advice, but also hinting at her controlling nature a bit.
It would seem like a self monologue a bit, but slowly show this other person wasn't just there to help but had some sinister side too that wanted to isolate Cocona too.

Basically they could have introduced their dynamic earlier, established a link between them, but made it still vague enough for some of the reveal to be surprising but still "click" with everything. And not mess up the plot because Cocona forgets that stuff every time she wakes up until she doesn't forget it anymore by the reveal's time.
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>>152420712
I hope they're going to fix the most jarring cases of QUALITY and unfinished animation in these episodes.
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>>152419194
Papika's drink should be syrupy sweet, to the point of tasting like candy.

Cocona's should be tart and fruity, light and sweet but not too sweet.

Yayaka's should be rich, a little sweetness, but the noticeable, dignified bitterness of coffee should be equally evident.
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>>152422942
Yayakas drink was Acerola berry flavored iirc.
Wikipedia:
>They are divided into three obscure lobes and are usually acidic to subacidic, giving them a sour taste,[11] but may be sweet if grown well.
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>people still find stuff to talk about
I'm impressed.
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>>152423226
sounds like Yayaka
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>>152422942

YAYAKA was acerola.
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which sub is good for Flip Flappers?
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>playing vidya with flip flappers ost in the background

feels good. So soothing.
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>>152423513
What game?
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>>152423300
Well, it's AOTY, after all.
I'm proud to have been in these threads from the very beginning.
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>>152423581
League
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>>152417093
That color palette turns me on.
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>>152424135
They use something similar later too.
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>>152424112
of Legends?
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>>152424294
Yes
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>>152424104
I remember these threads.
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>>152423513
I did the same thing, played Forza Horizon 3 with the Flip Flappers OST in the background.
It was kinda weird since both things don't really match at all but it was really fun and chill in the end.
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>>152424327
SC2 is where it's at.
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This looks great as a background on a tablet lads
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>>152424502
I played sc2 during WoL when it first came out. I played it for about a year, was in the top 8 in my masters division.
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>>152424623
You could be GM now with some effort.
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>>152415100
Guys I'm really really looking forward to more translated excerpts as I can't speak moon and this is highly relevant to the essay. Please go on.
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>>152424688
I probably could have made GM back then too if I really really wanted to. Thing is I got bored of the game when I hit my rank so I just started spamming custom games. Never really looked back, especially since the pro scene kind of died out.
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>>152424566
Is there no way to avoid the black stripes? Seems kinda odd the strips are not of the same length.
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>>152424408
Haha wow that is some good OC.
I must have missed that thread.
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>>152424844
Sadly it has to be zoomed in slightly but i dont have or know if theres a version without them
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>>152424844
You can crop them.
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6 episode of flip flappers Concept art
irotyan!
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>>152425302
that's cute
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>>152425341
I think so too
Shes so cute
>>
did those anons ever send the thank you card to the creators?
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>>152425614
Yes.
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https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=890777

Damn, FLAC is big.
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>>152425792
ye. its the 24bit flac web release some anon linked here. uploaded to nyaa cause i hate the other lossy torrent from tsdm with the pay for flac ads in their description. sharing is caring.
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>Drop Cocona and Papika entirely
>Just make the whole show about Iroha with all the same elements like henshin, replace Mimi with her parents
>Give a quick and straightforward (but not unreasonably revealing) explanation for what's going on in episode 1 for the dump nips
There, I fixed Flip Flappers. 5k sales at the very least.
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>>152425614
Yeah, but the twitter account of the guy who collected them got suspended.
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i really dont get how can people dislike this show

all the hate and muh sales shitposting just baffles me
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>>152426072
oh.It's so sad
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>>152426150
>>152426288
Learn how to post like a proper human being.
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>>152423300

show is over and shitposters have mode on to seasonal stuff so threads are a bit more civilized and the music came out
>>
How come somekindofthing loves the show so much to the point of obsession when, barring a relatively small but vocal fanbase, the reception for the show has been largely negative? From what I've seen, even most yurifags and CGDCTfags somewhat dislike the show, but he thinks FliFla is the greatest thing ever.
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>>152426568
I don't know where you've been looking, but out of the people who've seen Flip Flappers most seem to like it.
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>>152426568
>the reception for the show has been largely negative?
As far as I can tell that isn't the case.
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>>152426594
>>152426622
The key word was "barring a relatively small but vocal fanbase". It's well liked by its fanbase but most others dislike it at best.
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>>152426689
Well, not many people watched it to begin with compared to big shows, so obviously if you exclude most of the people who did like it, you're going to end up with most of the ones who didn't.
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>>152426689
>you can dislike a show if you haven't watched it
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>>152386413
Lets see if I can recognise anyone.

>Can only recognise Hikasa
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>>152426817
people dislike lots of things they know nothing about
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>>152376390
>>152376232
Don't be embarrassed Coconuts
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No clue what this guy is talking about.
All the people who watch it like it except weirdos with extreme anti yuri/anti cute girls bias.
It has even been among the most watched/liked shows on some of the big anime communities of the west.
If he's referencing the anti flip flappers post on random threads on /a/ if anyone posts a flip flappers image well that's normal, any show that's good or popular or loved gets people that will shit on it just for those reasons, nothing to do with the show and it has happened to plenty shows everyone has loved. I remember the good old days of the toradora airing, half the board loved it and half the board never saw it but hated it because of the shitposters.
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>>152429372
The shitposters that plagued these threads also switched tactics when the new season started and were going into random threads, posting flip flap images and baiting fanbase wars with bait and shitposts.

Hell, they're probably still doing it.
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>>152429447
It's probably that guy posting tumblr gifs and with bad spelling, trying to make flifla-fans look bad.
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>>152429447
My bet is the shitposters will gravitate towards the haremshit this season and that stupid one with the nazi loli.

LWA threads are shitposting quite well enough on their own so far.
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>>152429512
Youjo Senki seems to be the current target. The dead giveaway is threadspam.
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>>152429614
so that's what it's called
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>>152429465
That guy is so obnoxious. But maybe it really isn't a troll, but genuine stupidity. Who knows.
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>>152429644
If you don't take any of it seriously, it becomes a good comedy.

I like to imagine someone came to the author and said "we want you to highlight everything wrong with LN writing through example" and he did, the absolute madman.
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>>152429685
>make png crop
>upload jpg anyway
Tch.
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Today is ep15 if I remember correctly.
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>>152429939
Remember when thursdays had something to look forward to?
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>>152429939
I want to fuck Toto.
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>>152429939
Stop.
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