Light novels not welcome.

>>152354534
>Generic punch from DBS

>>152354685
> Vegeta can't weight 1000T

>>152354685
So, sooooooooo shitly portrayed though.

>recommend me thread

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>power levels

Only literal children cares about those

>>152354685
feats from top tier toriko characters are infinitely more impressive than

>Univseral+ character punches other Universal+ character into a wall and he makes a crater 10m wide and coughs up blood.

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>>152354763
>opinions of homosexuals mattering

>>152354777
If want a kind of logical explanation
>Most of the force gets absorved by invisible ki barried
>then gets absorbed by the body
>The rest produces the crater

>>152354685
Fights in DBS are incredibly lame compared to what was happening Toriko

>>152354763
Or you know, the thing is that you just end it. Works for smalle series like gurren lagann but something as long as Jojo obviously can't work that way.

>>152355039
It looks lame, and implied power isn't nearly as interesting as displayed power.

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I miss Toriko

>>152355330
Last volume release added the description for a monster of space, a giant planet eating snake whose capture level is 500.000.

>>152355385
it was 530,000 and a nod to Frieza / the last recorded power level in DB.

>>152355385
>>152355484
So Neo was bitch tier?

>>152354763
comics don't have that though
manga do that shit a lot more.

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>>152355543

>>152355520
Dunno, it's kinda weird since it was mentionned Neo ate countless planets and was the biggest threat of the universe. Feels like it was asspulled just for the Freezer reference.

>>152355543
Comic work around villain getting buff for a certain event.

>>152355520
He was only small star level at best, he could only consume galaxy's because he had hundreds of millions of years to do it.

>>152355578
Yeah.
As far as solo goes...

Most of capeshit of high powerlevels, like Superman, usually deals with their inner turmoil and the villain is very often an equal powered person or someone who has no powers but knows how to exploit/manipulate/fuck up the hero.
Mid tier heroes like Spidey usually have some sort of semi-drama going on and developed city/wide array of characters, and villains there too are usually of similar powerlevel but in one way or another tied to the city/drama/family/characters.
Street level stuff is street level stuff, I don't even have to explain it, crime stories with some powers sprinkled in.
Mystic stuff is where the powerlevels usually grow to multiversal and above, but you expect that, and again challenges aren't usually shonen "I have to get stronger", for example Dr. Strange already has all the powers needed to fight multiverse threats, it's more about how he tricks the creature and finds out enough information about x cult, same goes for Constantine.

Crossover comics is the only place where this used to apply, but it doesn't anymore. Crossover comics now fall only in three categories. Good team vs Evil team, variation of this is team splits up/ Good team vs some abstract or political threat / Good team vs universe ending shit where everything is arbitrary, save the world or it's all over.
>>152355600
Even in comics where that is the case, heroes do not get the buff usually, they try to find a way to de-buff the villain and then fuck him up, or trickery.

As far as indie and non-capeshit goes obviously these things aren't even applicable.

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>>152354685

One punch man
Gurren Lagann

>>152356093
Exactly, where is the dude who can punch another dude through a galaxy so hard that every atom in that galaxy is pulled apart into even smaller particles from the force of him flying through.

>>152356407
>One punch man
>higher than Toriko.

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DBfags on suicide watch.

>80 million km

>>152354534
Wait for Toriko 2.

>>152359584
>Toriko 2
pffft, as if that will ever happen.

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>>152359584
>80 million km
you are like a little baby. watch this.

>>152355795
>high powerlevels, like Superman, usually deals with their inner turmoil
except these mannequins heroes are being rewritten all over again and again to the point those conflicts you point out above doesn't do any justice.

>>152354763
I just read the part where Secco asks Cioccolato if his power would work on Notorious B.I.G. because it didn't work on Bruno.
Also note that literally every stand has a stats page, powerlevels are an aspect of Jojo, just not as major as the psychological battles, and since it gets reseted often and the powers are used with creativity the gap is less noticeable.

>>152354534
Saint Seiya

>>152360832
isnt the animation in that DBS tier.

>>152355330
I should start reading this.

>>152359846
DBS should end this year and they need something to take it's place so maybe.

>>152361290
I sure hope not, space adventures honestly sound stupid based on what transpired on on the planet

>>152356446
Saitama's power is similar to Superman's -- someone without physical limits. If the narrative or his own will calls for him to be strong enough to punch a galaxy in half, then he's going to punch it into quarters.

>>152361344
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>>152361344
The thread is about SHOWING big scale attacks retard. OPM's biggest thing was the serious punch, it's hardly comparable to the last arc of Toriko size wise

Though if we're talking about impressive the scale feels I think Murata is still much better than Toriko's author. While the latter did have attacks damaging the planet, the way scale were dealt with didn't make it look anywhere near that truly impressive as Murata would have been able to show it.
Then again he had to end quickly his series, so he didn't really have the time to back super detailed spreads.

Mangaka that can manage to really show gigantic things like Super Ganishka in Berserk are really rare because you need both the skills and the patience to pull out detailed pages just for one scene.

>>152363772
Murata takes his sweet damn time making chapters though, not stuck with a weekly schedule like most popular shounen mangaka.

>>152361045
Is a 30 years old anime, of fucking course is has shoddy animation every now and then.

>>152365444
Does the manga suffer from this as well?

>>152365200
That's pretty much what I said, needs patience/time like for him and Miura.