Still the undisputed king of incest anime
That's a close second. Pic related, however, is the patrician's choice
Yes, it was the only one that really went all the way. Koi Kaze is the runner up, but the age gap in this seems like more problematic than the incest.
Also great background art, direction, decent production and amazing OST.
If you can ignore the "not blood-related" comments in Kiss x Sis, it comes fairly close too. There's also this scene.
It seems like after 2010 or so the japs really cracked down on incest stuff.
The VN is FAR more detailed and covers a lot of shit that the anime leaves out
>Sora's ability to swim
>Haru's reluctance about being with Sora stems from him feeling like he's spitting on his parents graves by doing so
>Haru being overall a far better character
There's actually a thread on /jp/ where those 2 faggots who usually post in these threads, the Kanafag and the guy he conned into playing, are playing it and commenting on it
That's wrong though.
>Sora, a literal 10/10 imouto
>Nao, a 10/10 megane, literally the best of her kind by a VERY long shot, and actually supports the twins decision to be together, despite her love for Haru
>Akira, a 10/10 genki qt
>Kazuha, a qt ojou
>Motoka, a qt maid
The only acception to the rule is Kozue, who, despite being a qt, flies off the handle when she sees the twins together.
She's much better about it in the VN
Not really. The twins are only truly happy together. Nao even comments on it before Sora's arc truly gets kicked off, something about how Haru never truly loved her, and only had eyes for someone else
Plus, Sora could never be with anyone but Haru
Them being together is the best ending for them, and it makes them happy. Nao just wants them to be happy
I could get on board with that, if the younger brother gets dominated by his older brother that likes to crossdress.
Still, when other people accept an incestuous union so easily like that, it feels as if the writers don't take the taboo element of such a relationship seriously. It's why I deeply disliked how in Oreimo, Kirino went around telling everybody and their dog about how she started dating Kyousuke and the only person who had a problem with it was Manami.
Kyousuke is a fag who literally had no reason to fall romantically for his sister beyond the plot forcing him to, because..
Their relationship goes from brother and sister to romantic at the drop of a hat because Kirino was into him.
I wouldn't say she accepted it easily, given that we didn't see Nao's point of view and her private thoughts about it.
We also see their other friends look fairly wary about it, so they probably won't accept it as quickly as Nao did
THat's the biggest problem with the anime of BOTH series. It cuts so much from the source material that it almost butchers the story. Oreimo doesn't show how Kirino is hostile to Manami from the start, and makes it come out of nowhere, it completely cuts one of the most important characters, and pushes the Neko so hard I wasn't sure how it was going to end.
Yosuga, on that note, completely glosses over how Sora is an excellent swimmer, and that tiny detail is enough to convince people that the twins drowned in the lake, instead of Sora pulling them both out, as she has done before
>We also see their other friends look fairly wary about it, so they probably won't accept it as quickly as Nao did
Only if you go by the anime
In the Sora route afterstory in the VN fandisc, Haru tells their friends about it and they all accept it pretty fast
>Can't read moon so I wouldn't have known that
I wish the translation team on Yosuga would hurry up and finish so they can move on to Haruka Na Sora
>where the MC pretty much went down with almost every girl while he was with his sister
maybe if he had chosen his twin sister in the end instead of the bland older sister(and actually learned self control and loyalty) it would have been decent.
It was also a shitty hentai(you can occasionally see it in some sites), but still counted as an anime because no penis or vagina was shown.
The MC was basically just a fuckboy who does it with any girl that tries to push him for it.
Jesus Christ, no. Nami was gay for the titty girl. Aki would have been perfect end game material.
How the fuck is incest normalized in Japanese culture? Incest taboos were a cultural universal even before geneticists discovered that it results in an elevated chance for homozygous recessive diseases.
I lolled that they started fucking like wild rabbits after they first did it.
This fucking brat just can't keep her mouth away from her brother's dick. It gets to the point that he gets PTSD and has Vietnam flashbacks during class about it.
I thought it was cute that the class IMMEDIATELY goes "huh what, you two are being a bit creepy lately". They can smell shame.
Because it's disgusting. Your brain may not register the fact that it's 2 siblings having sex, but imagine if you were having a sexual relationship with your own brother/sister.
I counter your single example with another single example thus proving your cherry picked example wrong.
My example was the worst case, since this guy was the product of at least 5 generations of incestuous relationships. Doesn't change the fact that incest increases the chance of birth defects.
Barely, in the first generation. Things only start getting messy when their kids get in on it, and then their grandkids. But the risk for genetic deformities in sibling pairings is barely higher than normal
Except for the fact that yaoi usually involves rape.
There's no tender loving or building up the relationship, it's just... forced intercourse or molestation at best. I hate it. I'm a faggot but I don't wanna watch rapists.
This is literally the only good incest doujin ever made
I have bad news for you.
Update your tastes anon.
YnS had incest for body and mind, Wixoss was mostly just the body and someone else's mind.
Did they die?
For the last time, no. Sora is a very good swimmer and has pulled Haru out of water before. The rabbit exists in both areas because the studio in charge of it made a mistake, and admitted it
The twins are alive and happy
No but they did a good job of making it seem like they might've.
They make this shit to piss off the people who can't get laid. You invest your precious time into something that ultimately serves to hurt you while making the creators that much stronger. I should wonder (or not wonder at all) why any of us will throw our lives into this kind of shit. It just serves to remind people of their inadequacies and fears. That they might never find what they are after and will suffer through life bitterly alone.
Those who don't have this problem can just laugh their asses off when they view this material. Sit back and smile while knowing that they can at any point be fulfilled. Or am I just delusional? Eh, we'll see who doesn't see the real picture.
After YnS, I wonder if there's anything that can wash my brain out. EoE fucked my shit up as an earlier example. Maybe I could use something uglier to offset it. Or no... fuck that.
Playing through the VN atm, if you are only interested in imouto then you probably want to download a save since you have to finish a route to unlock sister route.
Oh jeez, someone noticed. I'm enjoying it so far, but if OP or anyone else decides to go through it for imouto, they should probably read my other post >>152361926.
>Kirino and Kyousuke broke up
>Sora and Haru drowned in the lake
>Nanoka and Koshiro killed themselves
A possibly brave author or just a smutmonger. Yeah, I think smutmonger is most believable. That's what most would accept, anyways. Draw some tits and move the product. Fill games with violence, move them out. The assembly line keeps churning them out. The customers consume. Rinse, fap, repeat.
YnS has a "pretty" soundtrack. It has "pretty" animation. It has "pretty" things to make a fool think highly of it. Deceptive. Trashy. Then again, it was provocative. Hardly boring, I'd say. God damn, it got me right in the feels. I think it deserves some credit for making a viewer think when they initially just wanted to get their rocks off. Has more than just flopping tits. It had some extra goodies to distract from the porn. Not so bad that it genuinely tried to be something.
>Kirino and Kyousuke broke up
No they didn't
>Sora and Haru drowned in the lake
No they didn't
>Nanoka and Koshiro killed themselves
I didn't read whatever that's from but they probably didn't.
>not the superior Imouto X Nee-san
Koi Kaze was better and dealt with the subject in a more mature manner.
Incest was practised throughout ancient Egyptian society, their Greek rulers only copied it because they thought it was cool. There is actually evidence that incest among the Egyptian population helped to preserve a malaria-resistant mutation, thereby countering its negative effects.
Incest NTR is literally the worst thing imaginable. You broke a social taboo to be with the person you love, only to have them stolen from you. Fuck NTR and anyone who likes it
Plus, Nanoka was just sickeningly cute
Maybe it's the size difference, but holy shit she doesn't look 17
>People who didn't read the LN
>People who didn't read the VN, and fell for the rabbit meme
>People who fell for the shitty attempt at foreshadowing in the anime
Literally none of this is in the source material, except for the "break up", but it's made VERY clear that they are still very clearly in love with each other
Fuck Okada Kou, that shit came literally out of nowhere
Is that the same studio that did Shoukoujou?
Yandere imoutos are the best, it's why I like Sora so much
are there any sister harem series similar to this game?
please, i NEED it
No animated scenes though. Wish more and more imouto/ane eroges would do that
Why do works which have the best potential for doujins never or barely get any at all?
maybe i should of went further in depth for you anon I just want to know when Its called ecchi and when it gets called hentai. When does it cross the line into the other classification.
But obviously asking a question like this on /a/ is too much for most anons to understand
>no anime with royal incest as the central plot
Not even enough doujins. Life is sad
>im too retarded to explain further
>better insult him for calling me out
>no one posted the master of facial expressions
shame on you guys
Incest is moral and you should all be unashamed.
How did Daisuke land himself such a qt? It's clear Kirino got her tsundereness from him, but maybe he was also based like super Kyousuke.
I hope the surprise for the 10 year anniversary is the story of the parents at least.
Yayoi a qt. New chapter this weekend.
The world needs more of the twins.
>innocent imouto bouncing on couch
>now she bounces on cock
what went wrong?
Nah, I watched it. Kind of liked it, but it had depressing vibe to me. Also what's up with that attitude? Where's the comradery, you /a/ssholes? /a/ has to be the most useless board on this shit.
Are you the adopted blonde with the gook brother? He's posted about you here if that's you. I don't know what's going on, but if that's really you,
your big brother loves you dearly
Speaking of Oreimo, What do you guys think of Ohtomo Takuji's new style?
The sudden style change surprised me. His new style has Nakayohi Mugudan vibe.
There are a few different types of yandere, not just the standard "murder everyone who talks to my loved one". Sora is a rare non violent type, and this is shown by her being either stone cold to or flat out ignoring anyone that isn't Haru
Does that even count as yandere? I know Sora has surpassed single target sexuality to the point of simply not noticing or pretending not to notice anyone that isn't oniichan, but I don't find her a yandere.
Sora is merely the clingy and jealous kind of girl.
Yandere implies their mindset is fucked, as in they are broken in a certain way. As it is, she's still pretty much like a normal person outside of liking her brother.
Sora is a psychological mess, you do realize this right?
She becomes so obsessed with Haruka that she literally ceases to care about anything else, to the point where she walks out on the porch in a sheet while Haruka is nervously conversing with Nao and Kozue, who have dropped in for a surprise visit, and rudely tells them to leave so that she and Haruka can go back to having sex (in so many words, and more)
I've downloaded the VN and played hugetits' route just out of spite.
Fuck you degenerates.
Isn't her route not even translated?
Dunno about the anime but the manga didn't really have anything much explicit. You can really just see them as really close and caring sisters, as mostly their thoughts are just being overprotective and helpful to each other rather than feeling aroused.
You DO know the history of Cleopatra yes? You could at least have tried looking up what her parentage is like before posting bullshit.
Hint. Her family tree does not have branches
I have a desperate weakness for christmas cakes, and she fits the bill perfectly.
However, the Yosuga translation team is slow as death, so you'll have to hope for another team to pick up the fandisk
>TFW your imouto is just as dumb as everyone else you know
>more detail in his penises
>"big dick shota"
>anime and PSP VN try to pass them off as stepsiblings
Why the fuck do they ever do this
The whole appeal is that they're related, right? Is there anyone that's happier when they do this? Is there some jap law that gets broken when fictional siblings love each other?
Their daughters are perfect too. The brocon and siscon genes are strong.
>implying they didn't change their last name to be able to get married
>implying they didn't get the brown eyes from some ancestor
Minato reincarnated in an ane and imouto.
I want to believe that there's at least a possibility for another short episode season
>/a/ is dying slowly
Says everyone ever.
He is so big that she has to hold onto something to endure the pain.
I feel like he regressed, he had a good style going for him. The newer style is more "mature" in its sharper lines, I guess. The man still barely fucking draws toes, though. Which is a shame because the one time the man did do them they were actually pretty good.
So intense it transcends and warps dimensions.
More like Fujibayashi Haru just suddenly disappeared.
What went wrong?
Incest is immoral and you should feel ashamed.
Thats rich, coming from a guy who is best buds with a known siscon.
>Choosing anything but the imouto
She's too cute, oniichan isn't worthy. It's a shame she was born with such a shit oniichan like >>152421908.
Didn't she pretty much win in the end? Nobody else wants him anymore so she has him all for herself now.
I only watched the first season, imouto wasn't enough for me.
You're telling me. I enjoyed cute sibling adventures. Heres to hoping that he returns to it anyway.
I love imoutos but Kirino is the worst imouto.
Get rid of your shit taste, anon.
What manga? She is pretty normal.
Still inferior to the original queen
I own the imouto route. Here I'll tell you the whole story.
Imouto meets a friendly girl who's a rich ojousama (except she's not she just has a job she spends her money trying to pretend to be rich) who gives imouto a free 3 day hot springs trip for Christmas.
Imouto takes her onii-chan. Begs him on the first day not to be siblings but newlyweds. Brother agrees because imouto is hot. They fuck for days.
Return home and their elder sister is going away for 2 weeks, won't be home till after new years. Imouto uses the opportunity to stop wearing clothes around the house, sleep with her brother each night, and fuck in every position all day every day anywhere they want to in the house. Pretends to be his newlywed wife. Tells brother that they need to have sex 3 times a day or she'll die.
Older sister comes home. Imouto is sad they can't keep having sex 3 times a day and act like newlyweds anymore. Fast forward 4 months. Imouto asks her brother what she means to him.
3 choices for 3 endings.
'We're just siblings' you end the game going back to being siblings, no more fucking.
'We're lovers' end the game with her calling you Youhei instead of 'onii-chan'. She has a hard time not calling him onii-chan but because you share a last name she's happy that now you can act like a real married couple.
'We're siblings and lovers'. Best end. Imouto keeps calling him onii-chan but you don't stop fucking. Imouto graduates from Junior High and is excited, now you can be together in high school.
The rest of the game is 'yes, more, faster, deeper, i'm cumming, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah'.
Naked apron imouto is the best
>there are people on /a/ right now who think incest is wrong
Yes, I don't think every series should be imouto route, some series are just about cute sibling antics and that is fine by me.
>hey, I like strawberry cake
>HOLY SHIT STRAWBERRYFAGS ARE THE FUCKING WORST OF ALL TIME
Sometimes I wonder if people is actually being serious when they blatantly shitpost about Oreimo, but most likely they are just being ironic.
Nobody can be this stupid >>152346002 >>152371372, or at least I believe nobody can, and just read this thread, basically people judgement towards x series is based on how much sex there was on-screen, which it wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for the ridiculous comparison between different titles.
They were probably studying next to each other and fell asleep, then during her sleep she cuddled up to him.
Or maybe he did
>Slap her brother
>Treat him like shit even though he help her
The amount of abuse is too high.
I don't mind if they just don't like each other but slowly warm up but abusive character is instant turn off.
That was only at the beginning though and she kinda had her reasons. I like Kirino so much because of her character development. But I can agree that her early behavior was pretty bad.
Oh, at least you didn't have a too stupid reason, that's a surprise. Still, there's nothing wrong on a sister hitting her brother, that's why they are siblings, is like their right, in a good relationship or in a bad relationship, fighting games is the norm between siblings. Now, Kirino had a built up frustration from years of not understanding their life circumstances, it's perfectly understandable if she was a bit too abusive in her own way.
>Treat him like shit even though he help her
How? Because Oreimo and Kyousuke relationship have only gone uphill since the beginning to the end, after volume 8(so basically almost half of the series) Kirino been 100% dere towards Kyousuke, but without Kirino losing her strong and confident personality, just look at the imouto wars(wasn't on the anime), to see how much their relationship improve since the start of the story, or even before, see how Kirino and Kyousuke relationship were before Kuroneko started with her "dating with senpai" plan, they even were having brother and sister skinship, but, I guess, since you say you dropped the series you couldn't see any of this, my recommendation would be that you find the volume 3 of the LN and give it a read, for the least before you start giving your opinion about something you don't know about.
Honestly, early Kyou kind of deserves it for being an apathetic prick. He stopped caring about much of anything, thanks to Manami, and just started lazing around not giving a fuck about anything. Fucker could use a slap or two
One thing the anime doesn't really touch on is that Kirino's hostility is mostly reserved for early Kyou and Manami, she's perfectly friendly with everyone else, if a bit tsun with Neko and Saori
Kyousuke and Kirino's relationship developed at a snail's pace and when they finally got together, the author chickened out. It was a huge waste of time for those who were invested in the characters.
The sex isn't the reason why Yosuga is better than Oreimo; it's how it properly portrayed incest as something wrong. Haru faced the conflict that his relationship with Sora brought up and we got to see a proper conclusion. Meanwhile, Kyousuke and Kirino went around telling everyone about their relationship with no repercussions and the only one who was against it was Manami. The conclusion was too half-assed and all the hints the author left to imply they are still together don't make up for it.
>That was only at the beginning
>after volume 8
m8, they can just hate each other without all the hitting.
I'm all for slow romance but this shit is annoying to watch.
Nice cherrypicking from those posts. You think it didn't change fast enough, others think it's perfectly fine. We disagree, now you can stop shitting on Kirino because you don't like her.
Anon, there are fast romance like Bakemonogatari and that WN about cheat thing.
I dislike them because they go full throttle.
>Oh MC-kun, I love you at first sight
>He call me cute
>He save me from that creep
It sounds so retarded.
>You think it didn't change fast enough
Now I like slow romance but If I have to read fucking 8 volumes about abusive relationship before I see any meaningful development then I rather drop it.
Eight volumes full of abuse.
What kind of torture is this?
Regardless of the circumstances around it, that ending was a fucking travesty. If he can't write about the heavy themes that come with an incestuous relationship, then he might as well have dropped the NBR bomb for the sake of a more satisfying conclusion.
>Eight volumes full of abuse.
You haven't even read them. You're just saying that because you saw it in that other post. And you even read it wrong, after volume 8 she's 100% supportive, before she was already fine. You judge her on her early behavior when you dropped the series, fuck off.
>NBR bomb for the sake of a more satisfying conclusion
>more satisfying conclusion
Are you retarded? Also he got his ending accross just fine. It's 2017 how are there still people who don't get it.
>Kyousuke and Kirino's relationship developed at a snail's pace and when they finally got together, the author chickened out.
Alright, no, Kyousuke and Kirino relationship didn't developed at snail's pace, they were in a cold war for a long ass time due to a total misunderstanding, same misunderstanding that they had the chance to deal with thanks to the accident in the first episode, it wasn't something that could be fixed from one day to another, it needed the proper built up and development, that in this case took 2 years(and actually more) to happen. Oreimo was about the Kousaka siblings "Life Counseling" from the start to the end, and even long after the show was over when the meaning of their "Life Counseling" changed, which was precisely the way Kyousuke and Kirino dealt with their different life choices and aspects of life, that include their new secret relationship.
>the author chickened out
I will refrain to reply how you deserve for this part, how did he chickened out? I mean, it sounds like this is the main complain of your post, elaborate.
>The sex isn't the reason why Yosuga is better than Oreimo
Read the thread. Also, you can't compare, you simply can't compare Oreimo and YsN relationships, YsN relationship was a sick relationship, that's why it was portrayed as something bad, not because of the incest, because the nature of their life circumstances was sickening.
Haru:"Man I want to fuck my sister, but that's wrong though"
Sora:"Haru, fuck me"
Haru:"Ok, I tried" fuck fuck
And what conclusion that would be by the way? Everyone suddenly supporting them, Haru becoming a Doctor and Sora(a terrible person by the way just like her brother) a nurse? Or the anime that had them running away of everything like a pair of retards, and in a matter of fact, NOT DEALING, with the consequences. In any case, I don't like to compare, but you started.
Can we stop with this Oreimo vs YnS shit? It's stupid and just makes the threads worse. They are completely different series and both have their strong points. Also you probably shouldn't give shitposters that much attention. That guy is even anti-incest in general, he can fuck right off.
>Sora(a terrible person by the way just like her brother)
Try being a friendly person right after having both parents die with no other close relatives, having to sell your home and parent's store just to survive and having to move from the city you lived all your life to the middle of nowhere with no internet and lots of bugs, and then being neighbor with a girl that basically raped your only family when you were too young to even understand what they were doing and was slowly taking him away again.
Did you even read properly?
>not even putting an apice of effort in your posts
I take that for a yes, read again, there are plenty of moments like the ones I mentioned in my same post about Kirino being dere towards Kyousuke before the volume 8, also you decided to ignore the fact that their relationship only went upwards during the whole series, stop cherrypicking like that other anon said.
But how? it wasn't, even in the anime they continue with their "Life Counseling" which you should know what it is about if you watched the series, and even point out how the meaning of it changed after the wedding and now they both share a new secret, I mean, you want us to believe you are not shitposting? Your whole point is based on "it's not because I said so".
>Kyousuke and Kirino went around telling everyone about their relationship with no repercussions and the only one who was against it was Manami
First, Manami wasn't "against" it to begin with, because there wasn't anything incestuous to begin with, what it came afterwards and I mean the volume 12 fell into her like a bucket of cold water, and she had to make sure Kyousuke and Kirino were sure about the path they had chosen and to give it a last try to see if Kyousuke could accept her feelings and turn back into a decision she thinks wasn't positive for both of them. Secondly, how did Kyousuke and Kirino didn't have to deal with the repercussions of their actions if that's what the whole series is about. They didn's simply made a banter and show the whole nation how much they loved each other and everyone "awww" on them, they told their close friends whose were already aware of it from the elapse of time that wer