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I hope that the Black killing Goku's family flashback is shown in the manga and is even more fucked up than it was in the anime.

Black told Goku that he killed him, but he didn't tell him about Chichi and Goten (assuming that it wasn't only a Toei idea, which would be a letdown if it was). Goku will go absolutely mad, or at least I hope he does.
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what's his name again?
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beerus is shit
fight me
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>>152333373
I'm dying to see leaks of the new chapter.
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In only a few more weeks, we'll get to see him again
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>>152333418
Who is this again? I don't remember him from the show. He was some one-off character right?
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>>152333541
Right before his universe is destroyed
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>>152333373
>Black killing Goku and his family during the day under a bright blue sky
Damn they could have at least tried to play with the colors a bit so they match the tense situation like pic related.
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>>152333569
Fuck off dude
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>>152333569
fug
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>>152333541
>tfw could have had Gowasu filler but instead got episodes of Gohan being a cuck
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>>152333028
>>152333032
No, even Raditz considered himself "an elite warrior" (because compared to regular Freeza soldiers, he is like elite, I guess..?) but according to Toriyama, saiyan elite works different.

>Low class - Almost all members of the saiyan species (Raditz, Kakarotto, probably Bardock)
>Mid class - The average used to be about ten people, all prodigies
>High class - The elite, Vegeta and Vegeta, king and prince, no more
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>>152333609
>Gohan being a cuck
stop
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>reminder
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>>152333373
It won't be, Black already mentioned it and they glossed over it in one page.
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>>152333373
This outfit must be a costume for Black in XV2.
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>>152333617
I'm pretty sure Nappa was considered one of the elite Saiyans, though.
>>152333656
Make Piccolo Great Again.
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>>152333660
Black told Goku that he killed him while he was in the Zamasu body and it was glossed over in the anime, too. It wasn't until later that Future Zamasu brought it up again and clarified on what exactly happened with his family to fuck with Goku. I wouldn't doubt if the same thing happens in the manga.
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>>152333741
>Black told Goku that he killed him while he was in the Zamasu body and it was glossed over in the anime, too.
No it wasn't. It wasn't ever mentioned until Black's identity was revealed. Then the following episode showed the flashback

In the manga, it's not treated as important.
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>>152333569
Fuck off
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>>152333770
It was handled the same exact way in the anime, the only difference being the reaction. Goku was surprised that he had been killed, whereas in the manga it was more like a "well, shit" situation.

Goku being killed in the anime wasn't treated as something important either, UNTIL the flashback was shown and we saw what happened in detail because not only was Goku killed, but Chichi and Goten. That's when Goku really unleashed his anger.
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>>152333418
Great Saiyacuck
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>>152333741
Dude, no one fucking cares.
Shit like that is brought up not to hit the audience or for any real reason. It's brought up to create a ME GOKU ME ANGRY reaction and get a 2 second power up where he'll get his shit slapped till some other stupid fucking bullshit that the writers will make up to angry up his blood happens again.

Remember, the writers of super have no fucking idea of how db works or why. They simply go by random bullshit that they think will work based on something they barely understand from a few eps or a random saga and add in the modern sub shit tier KEWL ANIME garbage that no one, even in japan, likes in hopes of modernizing it/standing out.
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>>152333656
thanks doc
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>>152333656
>makankosappo
>some stupidly long word instead of specshur beamu cannon!

why?
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>>152333833
It was not handled the same way. Black's identity was a huge mystery in the anime. His identity got revealed as a cliffhanger. In the following episode, they went into more detail including the flashback to build a huge emotional scene

In the manga, it was a quick sidenote just to clear up the final loose end of "well what happened to that timeline's Goku?" since Black's identity isn't a big mystery in the manga, and they're focusing more on Zamasu's faults instead of a retread of Goku angry like his first SSJ transformation
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>>152333569
Nope. Not chanceing it.
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>>152333938
The power of gag episodes
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>>152333857
don't you mean the Great Cuckman?
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>>152333883
how does this even happen
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>>152333933
Toriyama said in an interview that Piccolo tends to do very traditional japanese move names.

Vegeta by contrast names all of his moves in english because he thinks it sounds cool.
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>>152333862
>Shit like that is brought up not to hit the audience or for any real reason.
I doubt that and if that was the case, they failed because a lot of fans liked how the scene played out.

>>152333939
>In the following episode, they went into more detail including the flashback to build a huge emotional scene
Who's to say that it won't be done in a similar fashion in the manga? Goku got clarification that Black is Zamasu and Zamasu stole his body, yes, but we haven't seen the flashback of Zamasu even transferring bodies and killing that Goku yet. It'll deliver yet another emotional scene.
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>>152333883
>People on reddit praised this scene
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Friendly reminder he should be part of the universe 7 team
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>>152333963
Or maybe Pan is stronger then we could have ever known.
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>>152333938
>a saiyan baby with a power level of 10000
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>>152333569
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>>152334067
>Who's to say that it won't be done in a similar fashion in the manga?
Because it's not the manga's style. Goku already addressed that he's getting revenge for his alternate self and alternate family, and that was it. They're instead focusing on how cowardly Black was for murdering gods through the kais. The anime adds all the emotion and nostalgia, the manga goes for more details about fights and villains.
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>>152334152
>Goku already addressed that he's getting revenge for his alternate self and alternate family
He said that he would avenge himself, he never said anything about his family because Black hasn't mentioned killing Chichi and Goten yet.

>Goku: What did you do to me?!
>Black: Don't worry, I killed you soon after.
>Goku: Crap.. I guess this means while I'm at it, I'll have to avenge myself... myself...
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>>152334232
And that's all it will be. Just wait for the leaks and you'll see. That's not the manga's style.
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Quality hug
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>>152333933
Because it's so much more cool and fun. The actual translation of Makankosappo is ridiculous and over the top.

"Special Beam Cannon" is flaccid in comparison.
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Leaks this month for sure
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>>152333569
ningen
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>>152334269
>That's not the manga's style.
I'd have to disagree.
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Decided to reread Gotenks fighting Buu. I forgot how much fun Toriyama had with it. Piccolo's reactions are amazing. He really is Toriyama's favorite. Mine too.
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>>152334379
That isn't a flashback to a nostalgia ridden scene built to rehash the Freeza scene.
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>>152334412
No, but it's a rebuttal against "the manga doesn't add emotion" argument.
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>>152334435
I didn't say the manga doesn't add emotion. Re-read what I actually said
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>>152334295
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If I watch the anime I don't need to read the manga right?
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Why is Bra so perfect bros
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>>152334449
>The anime adds all the emotion and nostalgia, the manga goes for more details about fights and villains.
You implied the manga doesn't add emotion, as that's supposedly only left up to the anime.
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>>152334152
>revenge for his alternate self and alternate family
It went nowhere in the anime anyway. He got angry right after, but didn't even show any special emotion when he saw Chichi and Goten alive after returning to the past, and I don't remember him mentioning anything related to that later.

Sure, it's "just" their alternate selves, but as a motivation it didn't last long.
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>>152334452
More like the opposite. Anime makes no sense in timeline and Black existence itself, so you should read the manga to watch the accurate version
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>>152334452
Yeah, but the manga is better the three animes
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>>152334527
any chapters I can focus on? Don't want to really pick up and read the whole manga. I have more then enough I'm behind on in the manga department.,
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>>152334483
Emotion AND nostalgia.
The anime added Trunks meeting Gohan
Then thinking of the past
Then meeting 18 again
Then Goku acting like he did against Freeza

That's the anime's style. The manga goes for more details about the current plot and villains. The manga is more condensed and concise. It's been brushed aside. This argument is annoying now because you're going to find out tomorrow when the leaks are out
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>>152334463
>wanting a penny slut
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>>152334483
I should also add that the manga does add nostalgia as well (see pic related).
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>>152334520
>It went nowhere in the anime anyway. He got angry right after, but didn't even show any special emotion when he saw Chichi and Goten alive after returning to the past, and I don't remember him mentioning anything related to that later.
Because it was thrown in just for a quick nostalgia punch. They clearly didn't think of anything after. Was a cool moment tho.
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>>152334452
The manga is the definitive version thanks to Toyotaro revealing that it's the "Toriyama script edition":

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/11/30/dragon-ball-super-manga-collected-edition-vol-2-cover-art-toyotaro-comment/

Since it’s Akira Toriyama-sensei doing the original story, the manga has a slightly different approach than the TV anime, which results in a different kind of production. I hope you all enjoy that aspect of it for volume 2!! And I hope you keep reading!!
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>>152334606
The idea itself was pretty good, yes.
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>>152334571
>the whole manga
You know manga is about... less than 20 chapters, right? Even less if you just read Future Trunks arc
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>>152333569
This is the worst meme. I know it, you know it, Zorak know it.
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>>152334045
It kinda does
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>>152334572
>The anime added Trunks meeting Gohan
>Then thinking of the past
I'll give you that, those were pretty good additions to the story from Toei.
>Then meeting 18 again
Not like this mattered anyways. He saw that 18 was a different person and was different from his timeline version (as if he didn't know that already)
>Then Goku acting like he did against Freeza
Could still happen once Zamasu or Black tell him about his family.
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>>152333373
I still don't understand how this even happened.
Isn't this in the Trunks timeline? How was Goku alive and how did Goten exist?
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>>152334821
This wasn't from Trunks' timeline. Black didn't even venture into that timeline yet.
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>>152334821
>He hasn't watched back to the future
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>>152333569
No fig u
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>>152333569
reported
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>>152333569
Hah jokes on you, I hate my mom!
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DLC Pack 2 wen
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>>152335001
Cancer
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>>152335009
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>>152334379
Toriyama adds more to the manga right?

He doesn't care about Chichi and Goten at all. He actually cares about Trunks and Mai.
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why people can't just enjoy it?, super has been pretty good since the Universe 6 tournament, even the filler, and the zamasu arc was outstanding.

Sure, it has low points and things we may not agree with, but can't we all agree that it has been a very enjoyable ride so far?
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>>152335081
>Feb
>DBS new arc
>DLC Pack 2
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>>152335081
thats it? two shitty characters?
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>>152335009
it's just shitty reskins of whis and beerus
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>>152335155
I don't care about that, only Rose and Zamasu. Those have been confirmed for DLC P2.
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>>152335134
>super has been pretty good since the Universe 6 tournament, even the filler, and the zamasu arc was outstanding.
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>>152335183
>Those have been confirmed for DLC P2.
If only you knew...
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>>152335183
Black and Zamasu haven't been confirmed for Pack 2
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>>152335149
>>152335155
>>152335202
>>152335206

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65L_FuF4NjA
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>>152333418
Great Mayoman
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>>152335001
It was good until that last line
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>>152333569
I really need to read the replies next time
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>>152335221
I wonder if Fused Zamasu will be playable or just a non playable boss.
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Can Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta beat SSGSS Vegito?
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I was told that there would be scans today. Well I am here, where are my scans?
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>>152335221
That doesn't say Pack 2, it looks more like a general content plan.

Just don't get your expectations for them being in it, you'll be setting yourself up for disappointment. However, if they do end up being in it - great.
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>>152335319
No, but with pic related around, neither can win
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>Dubfags
>Edge song for Broly
>RAGE RACING INSIDE MY HEART
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2CJD734z5E
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>>152335201
Why are his insides so shiny?
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>>152335361
It's common sense that those are the characters who'll be in Pack 2 because they're on the card featuring Champa and Vados, separately from Frost and Cabba who were from Pack 1.
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>>152335221
>doesn't say they're in pack 2
this over here>>152335081
is showing all the characters pack 2 has. That's just a plan for the future
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>>152335387
Oh for a second there I thought you were making fun of Pantera
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>>152335361
> Bandai Namco Entertainment has announced Super Saiyan Blue Vegito (known as SSGSS Vegito in the game), Zamasu, and Super Saiyan Rose (SSR) Goku Black will be joining Champa and Vados as playable characters in DLC Pack 2 of Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2. That’s five elite warriors from Dragon Ball Super that fans have been hoping for, wishing for, since they made their debut in the anime series. No additional information has been announced in regards to DLC Pack 2, but Bandai Namco mentions more DLC Pack 2 content will be reveled in the game at a later date.
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>>152335413
Don't come complaining when they're not then
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>>152335413
My theory was that Hit was supposed to be DLC pack 1 but due to sheer popularity they rushed him out
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>>152335323
The scans would be here at the earliest if we were lucky.
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>>152335134
I enjoy Super when it's not retreading old ground. Battle of the Gods movie, Universe 6 tournament, bits and pieces of the Zamasu arc (I hated Goku Black concept and constant back and forth time travelling. Zamasu himself was pretty okay though.)

I guess coming up with new concepts is harder than retreading Freeza.
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>>152335444
No way. I liked 10s.
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>>152335462
Where does this come from
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>>152333578
DELETE THIS
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>>152335388
Toei doesn't want to show blood and gore.
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>>152335134
It's good but could be way better, Toyotaro and the manga has set the bar so high it's easy to compare the two and make fun of the anime's low points.
Luckily for us the next arc should be better thanks to Shueisha/Jump stepping in for quality control. (and if we're lucky the show will use Toyotaro's storyboards from now on)
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>>152333569
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>>152335607
>Toyotaro and the manga has set the bar so high
Lol stop overrating the manga. It's OK at best, it's nothing amazing
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>>152333569
wahaha
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Could Present Zamasu have been saved?
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>>152335604
However they showed blood coming from Beerus and Champa's noses on the baseball episode
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>>152335319
Even base Gogeta would ass-stomp all of Super.
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>>152335319
SS4 Gogeta can't even beat SS3 Vegetto
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>>152335462
SS Black can be a thing?
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>>152335643
It's been good ever since he's been given 40 pages per chapter (up from being rushed with 20 pages only) and he doesn't need to rush to keep up with the manga anymore.
By the looks of it they're already basing the new arc on his work because it is amazing.
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>>152335444
I loved the Suponji Bobbu episode where i heard this master piece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SOnsCZvFbk
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>>152335801
>SS3 Vegetto
Vegito doesn't have SS3.
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>>152335841
If they already decided SSR Black, then SSJ Black should be XV3 or on Dokkan/Heroes/new series
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>>152335863
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>>152335851
>he doesn't need to rush to keep up with the manga anymore
Anime you mean, anon.
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>>152335863
if he can go SSJ1 or SSB, isn't it obvious that he has access to 2 or 3? dummy
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>>152335690
Future Zamasu was almost saved until Black appeared to kill Gowasu a 2nd time.
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>>152333569
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>>152335903
He'll definitely be in Dokkan. As for XV, I don't think so. XV3 seems likely.
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>>152333569
Jokes on you, she's been dead for like 15 years
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>>152335927
Nope. Did we ever see Vegeta use Super Saiyan 3?
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>>152333569
fuck you
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>>152335975
Not in canon, but he is on Raging Blast 2
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>>152335975
Did we ever see Trunks or Goten use super saiyan 3?

Take your bait and fuck off
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>>152333569
That's not Black
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>>152334067
>because a lot of fans liked how the scene played out.
Zero people liked how that turned out.
Literally fucking no one brings that bullshit up.

It's cheap manipulative trash that's handled poorly.
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>>152336036
Mangafags are THIS deluded.
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>>152335851
>By the looks of it they're already basing the new arc on his work because it is amazing.
The amount of dick sucking in this line is kek worthy
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>>152336036
see >>152335910
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Reminder that SS3 is the ugliest and worse transformation.
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>>152335643
Truth. Will never have the same feel as the original manga.
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>>152336116
>Worried about it being pretty
You see?
Fags like you are why DBS is trash and everyone hates it now.
Shouldn't you be in a corner jacking off over your fuccboi SSJ2 super duper special edition version of trunks right now?
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Did you like Black?
How do you think they should have improved him?
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>>152336258
Are you actually retarded, anon? Isn't about be "pretty", SS3 is the worse and most disgusting saiyan form
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>Broly
I have no words..
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>>152333569
fug
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>>152336258
>Implying SS2 is good design wise
Babbidi summed it up perfectly and that it is a useless transformation. why change my hair from an already based crown and flame to spiky superman if their base multiplier transformations? It would be much better to have Goku train his base form to make SS work better
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>>152336082
it's not dick sucking, the only word that's of note is "amazing" and it was purely a counter point from as a response of him saying it was "nothing amazing"
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>>152336332
Was chapter 5 ever released?
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>>152336332
what the fuck is this abomination of a manga page?
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>>152336420
Don't you recognize Super, anon?
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>>152336191
Super's battles look so damn weak compared to Toriyama's battles. Both anime and manga.
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>>152336294
You said that you hate it because it's ugly.
That look is part of what makes it cool you fag. The fuck?
If you want purty niggas slap fighting and not getting their clothes torn or actually working to get more powerful then you're part of the wrong fanbase and you're definitely in the wrong damned genre.

And SS3 is the top of the heap in terms of natural power progression when it comes to mortal SSJ forms.
But it's a burn everything to the ground kind of deal and can't be trained to become more energy efficient or less destructive. It's an all or nothing deal.

>>152336377
I didn't imply that at all. I think SSJ2 was only cool when Gohan did it and after that it's just a useless form that's absolutely indistinguishable from SSJ1 outside of random lightning bolts.
And lastly, training your base form is EXACTLY how you increase the power of the SS form you fucking buffoon.

But increasing the base number will not overcome the higher multiplier that a new SSJ form will create. Period.
Even suggesting as such with all we know and have read and even heard from the Toriyama-sama himself is outright fucking lunacy.

This is not up for fucking debate.
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>>152336191
Toriyama may not be a great write, but the motherfucker is a DAMN good artist and that's enough to pull some respect from me
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>>152333938
It looks like it was made with flash.
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>>152336526
But...but..anon!
Surely you don't want the battle or worse the fighters to look ugly!
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>>152336595
Considering he kept pulling shit out of his ass by the week, he's a fucking natural at writing too. Not many people can pull that much shit out of thin air on a weekly basis for over 15 years non stop.
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>>152333933
>makankosappo

is shorter than special beam cannon
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>>152336570
>baited into shit flinging
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>>152334492
>>152334538
disgusting.
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Tell me, take away the differences in backstories and Black actually being the better character, what the fuck was the difference between the two?
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>>152336662
Damn, Toyo has improved ALOT.
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>>152334902
why should he? those movies are old and shit.
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>>152336662
One's a bastard son, one is a body swap like Ginyu, either way making an "Evil Goku" has been around since Turles days.
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>>152336662
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>>152336662
We're proud of /our guy/ Toyotaro for making it. He's literally living the dream and was titled "Toriyama's chosen successor" what an honor that must be.
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>>152336662
Black is pure Saiyan with the mind of an edgy Kai
X is a half Saiyan half Kai, also Zamasu is green
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>>152333569
>all these supersticious idiots
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>>152333569
Oh boy.
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>thread was going great
>mangafags appear
>thread is now shit
Really makes you think
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>>152336757
>still replying
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>>152335134
Super is objectively just shit. The animation makes it worse.
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>>152336788
>Zamasu poster
>calling other posts shit
Really makes you think.
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>>152336570
>You said that you hate it because it's ugly.
1º I'm not >>152336116 you retard,you know there's more than one single person disagree with you?
2º He never said that

>If you want purty niggas slap fighting and not getting their clothes torn or actually working to get more powerful
Nobody said anything remotely similar to that

>And SS3 is the top of blablabla
Good for you, kid
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>>152336662
U-uh.... a-art?
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Since Whis is confirmed to be gay, do you guys think Vados is a lesbo?
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>>152333569
This post really made me think
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>>152336907
>Since Whis is confirmed to be gay
<citation needed>
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>>152336907
>is confirmed to be gay
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>>152336662
What's Xicor deal..?
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>>152336823
>2º He never said that
Yes I did
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leaks when?
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I just realized that homosexuality is such a huge sin that the supreme god destroyed the universe because a god was in gay love with himself.
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>>152336975
>>152336907
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>>152336662
I don't know shit about Xicor/AF, what are their motivations?
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>>152336801
I garentee you any continuation of DB you would call shit just because its new.
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>>152336823
>>>152336570 (You)
>>You said that you hate it because it's ugly.
>1º I'm not >>152336116 you retard,you know there's more than one single person disagree with you?
>2º He never said that
>>If you want purty niggas slap fighting and not getting their clothes torn or actually working to get more powerful
>Nobody said anything remotely similar to that
>>And SS3 is the top of blablabla
>Good for you, kid
Everything you just said is fucking stupid.

>>152336640
>I was only pretending to be retarded.
Gottcha
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>>152337014
West Kaioshin hated the Kais for leaving her to die, so after hearing about Son Goku beating Freeza, she stole his DNA when he was on Yardrat, then created a son of his by combining her DNA with his. They then wanted to destroy the Saiyans for reasons.
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>>152337019
Name 5 things introduced in Super that aren't shit right now.

Outside of tournament anime hiit and kaioken ssjb(both of which were just outright raped later) there's fucking nothing.
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>>152336938
>"is the ugliest transformation"
>"is the worse transformation"

He never said "I hate/think this form is worse because is ugly, you autist
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>>152337078
>Outside of tournament anime hiit and kaioken ssjb
Those are pleb tier choices to begin with, Hit is a a walking asspull machine in the anime, and SSB KK is pure fan service that's not even part of the original Plot Outlines.
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>>152337078
>>152337078
Not the same anon and not 5 reasons but
Black arc preview theme
Some of the filler (I don't think anyone can hate EVERY filler from it)
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>>152337065
This pretty much. She wanted to create the strongest warrior in the galaxy. She failed with Freeza (yes this fucking happened) so she went for the person who beat Freeza, Goku.
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>>152337120
But I (who is>>152336116) do believe that the form is bad just by looking at the design
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>>152337167
>Some of the filler
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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>>152337193
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>>152337177
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>>152337193
>>152337204
And Black is just a more charming Xicor. Same motivations too
>muh battle
>muh power increase

That's the motivation of both.
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>>152337204
>>152337177
Am I supposed to read this fucking shit from right to left? Most translated mangas reverse from the retarded Nip orientation
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>>152337078
Assuming BoG and RoF count since they are part of super
Dishinkan
Kaioshin GoD spirit link
Omniking
Super Dragonballs
the 12 universes
The idea that kaios can become kaioshin
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>>152337200
>He thinks DBS filler is good
Top kek
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>>152337120
He said it's the ugliest and worst as reasons that he hated SSJ3.

You fucking moron.


And I addressed the former, and as he didn't give any specific or logical reason for it being "worse" beyond not liking how it looked I simply assumed they hated it because of how it looked.
BUT I didn't simply make a comment on their taste and leave it at that.
I also addressed the entire "it ain't as powerful as SSJB" thing and some of the flaws in the SSJ3.
I even ignored the walking fucking canon braking fuck up that was Super Future Trunks instead of taking potshots at it to do it.

Go sit in the fucking stupid corner.
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>>152337204
Couldn't she just create a senzu?
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>>152337286
>Am I supposed to read this fucking shit from right to left?
Anon..
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>>152337286
back to
>>>/v/
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>>152337191
SSJ3 is used more then any other form in fanwank and OC DONUTSTEEL stuff.

Your rebuttal.
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>>152334071
>do_you_have_a_single_fact_to_back_that_up.jcd
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>>152337177
>>152337204
I remember when this one anon tried to convince me that Black's identity was actually West Kaioshin, she apparently actually kept her twisted motivations from the doujinshi and stole Goku's body so that she could become the strongest being in the universe.
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>>152334071
>>152337421
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>>152337421
There's a search option on reddit. Go look it up dumbass. Search the chapter that had Vegeta vs Frost. Everyone shit on the manga version and said the anime handled it better.
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>>152337434
Oh, and apparently she also manipulated Zamasu's sense of thinking.
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>>152337397
It has neanderthal brow and the hair is not suitable for combat, it wastes too much energy and is a danger to the environment.
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>>152333373
>I hope that the Black killing Goku's family flashback is shown in the manga and is even more fucked up than it was in the anime.

Meh, probably it isn't going to be mentioned.
It feels like something Toei added. I mean, it is kind of a given Black killed them, but telling Goku about it was only for the rage boost that did jackshit in the anime.
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Champa will get destroyed in the next arc, He will win one round and lose the next screen cap this.
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>>152337471
You're the one that made the claim, you back it up.

If not I'll call you a liar and everyone on 4chan will know you're a big stupid fibber.
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>>152337295
BoG was only okay at best, but got stupid as shit in certain places. Like holy shit is this bad stupid.
And RoF was only decent if you saw it as a fun little side thing and didn't think too deeply about it.

>Dishinkan
Okay. You win this round.

>Kaioshin GoD spirit link
Stupid

>Omniking
Only entertaining during the widely loathed and utterly fucking stupid Future Trunks saga.
And that was mostly due to everyone's reactions to him...it.

>Super Dragonballs
Fantastically Interesting idea that is literally Fucking wasted SECONDS after they are introduced.

>the 12 universes
Okay, till the future trunks saga, now it's just a clusterfuck of barely thought out nonsense and should have been never created in the first place.

>The idea that kaios can become kaioshin
Who fucking cares.
It doesn't mean anything.
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>>152337065
So...

>bitch kaioshin is mad because the other kaioshins believed she died, so she wants kill the kaioshins and saiyans because potato
>her companion is just a saiyan linked to kaioshins


while
>Zamasu is sick of ningens genuine misbehavior and the gods who allow them be dangerous for the universe so he wants kill them to make a new beatiful world
>his companion is himself from a parallel world

Zamasu looks actually interesting, bitch Kaioshin is lame
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>>152337204
This bitch can sense ki and teleport across the fucking universe.
And let's be fucking honest.
If she was conscious during that entire fucking time, she could have easily landed upon at least ONE fucking planet and slept there, helped along it's development, then grew food and finally left after a few hundred thousand years.
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>>152337537
Why are you so upset redditer? Everyone knows Reddit is a shithole filled with Toeishills hiveminds that only know how to echo each other.
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>>152337643
All these sites are hiveminds. Don't act like 4chan is any better.
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>>152337537
>reddit defender
Go back to your safe space redditor
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>>152337688
Yeah but here we fucking put down Toeishills and give them a reality check.
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>>152337434
>>152337477
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>>152337497
>It has neanderthal brow and the hair is not suitable for combat, it wastes too much energy and is a danger to the environment.
Not being as bald as krillian and the free flowing clothes is not suitable for combat either.
Neither is a fucking sword.

But everyone has a full head of grabbable hair and trunks is swinging around a fucking sword that was rendered canonically useless mere minutes after it was introduced.

As for wasting too much energy....if it came down to using a form that wasted tons of energy but allows you to hold your own against a child god demon that could easily kill you and wipe out everything and using a form that is weaker in every metric but it has really good ki mileage...which would you choose?

The SSJ3 form is the SHIT GETS REAL form. It's not there to look pretty and lure in the queers and fujos. It's the ugly BECOME AS UGLY AND ANGRIER THEN THE DEMONS TO CONQUER THE DEMONS look that is so fucking popular in all media aimed at men.

The kind of logic you're following why future trunks was a lame faggot with nonsensical power ups, and black and zamasu were massive fuccbois with no real logical power progression or logic throughout the entire damned saga.
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>>152337763
Toyo does reuse a lot of panels he did for AF now that I notice. Is it really tracing when he's reusing his own work?
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>>152337837
I guess..? Probably a nudge for people who know he's Toyble and have read his AF doujinshi.
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>>152337803
No it was fine against Buu but in a regular combat situation it's fucking retarded, if someone you couldn't sense ki saw an SS3 they'd probably laugh.(before getting beat up but that's beside the point)
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>this fucking autist SS3fag
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>>152337434
if she wasn't used for the fan manga i would say that would have been better than black being another zamasu
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>>152337709
>reddit defender
I asked him to prove his claim and you jumped on the reddit hate wagon. Thanks for reinforcing the hivemind bud.

>>152337724
>here we're negative about everything
I know.

Don't take that as defense of Super, I watch that shit weekly to help my hatred of Toriyama. Whether its the manga or the anime, they're both shit from a senile hack who can't even remember his most memorable series right.
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>>152337955
>Don't take that as defense of Super, I watch that shit weekly to help my hatred of Toriyama. Whether its the manga or the anime, they're both shit from a senile hack who can't even remember his most memorable series right.
Have you ever thought about killing yourself?
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>>152334082
The Champ would make it too easy for universe 7, he could honestly beat Zeno by just flexing his biceps
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>>152337897
But we're NOT supposed to laugh at final form Frieza or SSJRose?

Dude, just admit you want to watch fujo bait shlick porn and leave us alone. Go watch K or something.
Fucks sake, you don't even fucking know how DB works.
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>>152333569
Fuck you
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>>152338022
What on earth garnered that reaction?
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>>152338089
He's autist
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>>152337078
Beerus
Whis
Angel shit and God of destructions in general
Cabba
Hit
Multi-universe tournaments
Super Dragon Balls
Bringing in Jaco if that can count
I like Super Saiyan God fuck you
Future Mai, and Pilaf, Mai and Shu's new role in the show in general
Dad Gohan and Pan

When Super is retreading Freeza and Future Trunks arc it's shit. New stuff is fun.
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>>152334492
purple nigga's on ice
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>>152337985
All the time. Why?
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>>152338089
That person, or your, posts garnered that reaction.

They're talking fucking nonsense. They're trying to apply the values of one kind of anime/manga that is the exact opposite to the values of DB and it's stupid and failing.

The reckless and mindless attempts at pushing that in Super is the exact reason why Super is fucking failing.
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>>152337985
He's not entirely wrong on the quality though. I don't think Super is as bad as he does, but it's been underwhelming. The manga is better than the anime but it's still a bit of a lazy mess.

I still read/watch it because I enjoy parts of it, though. I think watching it just for the hate boner is a waste of time, but whatever.
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>>152338179
You might as well go through with it if you're watching DBS just because you hate Toriyama for not remembering some shit like Lunch in his own manga.
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>>152338147
>Bringing in Jaco if that can count
Going to add on to this, I really like how Bulma and Jaco have both been incredibly helpful depsite not being powerful.

Bulma is self explanatory, Jaco was able to use his sight to expose Frost and prompt the Galactic King to figure out Hit was using the time skip plus he helped take Bulma to see Zuno
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>>152333554
tfw major protagonist
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>>152333569

You fucking bastard.
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>>152333569

even tho shes a fucking idiot i gotta reply
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>>152336008
You are a super retard.
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>>152338226
Everyone needs a hobby. Mine is hating Akira Toriyama.
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>>152333569
Fuck You
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So is BoG the best Z movie
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>>152338223
Quality is out of his control because he doesn't create the manga himself anymore. You can hate on Toei but hating on Toriyama and calling him a hack just goes to show how fucking retarded one must be and wants to desperately project his own angst.
Look I myself know the anime is bad quality majority of the time, but you have to also understand the anime is going through a new phase right now.
Shueisha/Jump has stepped in themselves and reclaimed the franchise rights for all things Dragon Ball, specifically the legality behind "Super" as a sequel.
The Dragon Ball Room department has stepped in for quality control and is credited as "Planning Coordinators" in the new outro as of this new year and you can clearly tell they're stepping up their game.
>>152338309
All in all if you watch DBS as a hobby just so you can hate on Toriyama, you might as well do yourself a favor and commit sudoku.
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>>152338393
Oh yeah, did you was it you? ever back up that fact about the reddits?
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>>152338309
>Mine is hating Akira Toriyama.
Top kek, stay mad faggot. He made one of the most popular manga of all time, while you're a fucking nobody.
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>>152338147
>Beerus
Interesting till it was revealed that he's a useless fucktard that does nothing for no discenable reason. No seriously, why didn't he go to future trunks timeline and erase fucking Black and seal Zamasu into a sword? NO FUCKING REASON GIVEN!

>Whis
Just as fucking useless.

>Angel shit and God of destructions in general
Only good thing to come out of angel shit is the grand priest and Vado's sexy ass.
The Gods of Destruction mean nothing when the only two that are shown are fucking Whis and Champa. The GoD of universe 10? Where in the fuck was that lazy fucktard during the future trunks saga? The fuck made Beerus think he could play top dog...cat in someone elses fucking universe and get away with it but not take his lazy ass to FTs timeline?


>Cabba
Who gives a single solitary fuck. Where's fucking Tarble?

>Hit
Only good in the anime during the tournament. His latest eps were shit and they completely fucked up his powers so they could shit out a crappy power struggle.
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>>152338475
Where do you think you are? We're all nobodies.
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>>152338530
>Multi-universe tournaments
Only good to come out of it was Goku SSJKK vs Hiit in the anime. Outside of that it ranged from stupid to a lot of wasted potential.

>Super Dragon Balls
Stopped being interesting moments after the wish was made. Not only that, we still don't know anything about them or where the DBs come from. THE MYSTERY OF BLACK WAS SOLVED THOUGH!!!
Piccolo didn't even get a fucking power up out of it.
Just a big goddamned waste.

>Bringing in Jaco if that can count
Meh. Would have only been good if Goten and Trunks and Nippleman were having space adventures.

>I like Super Saiyan God fuck you
ZZZzzzZZZ

>Future Mai, and Pilaf, Mai and Shu's new role in the show in general
Future Mai is fucking retarded and still makes no fucking sense. Pilaf Mai and Shu would have been interesting if they did anything outside of nothing and eating screen time.

>Dad Gohan and Pan
Fucking dull.
The only good thing that came out of the new arc is showing off how awesome Videl-Sama is.
..videl-sama...fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap
And doing what they failed to do in the last arc. Make the overly wordy asshole badguy tranform into a horrible monster that they hero has to take out in a fist fight.

>When Super is retreading Freeza and Future Trunks arc it's shit. New stuff is fun.
Yeah, but the new shit has been badly thought out and disasterous at best.
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>>152333569
I'll get you one day.
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>>152338309
>Everyone needs a hobby. Mine is hating Akira Toriyama.
What a loser.
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I think the message we can get out of this whole subject is that Multiverse is ultimately the better story.
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>>152338465
that's not me, why the fuck would I go to reddit? It is however common knowledge it was Toeishill central there all up until Toyotaro revealed that the manga is much closer to Toriyama's vision, and all of a sudden they jumped ship.
Don't ask me how I know this, there was a thread about it here.
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>>152338530
>The GoD of universe 10? Where in the fuck was that lazy fucktard during the future trunks saga?
He was dead the moment Gowasu was assassinated.
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>>152338556
>Future Mai makes no sense
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>>152338608
I go to reddit for /r/dereksmart so I'll take your word for it I guess.
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>>152338643
He was saved when Whis did his time thing, Gowasu should have tell him he's on danger or anything worse.
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>>152338598
Pretty much.
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>>152338530
>Interesting till it was revealed that he's a useless fucktard that does nothing for no discenable reason.
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>>152338235
Side characters who aren't the most powerful and are even kinda wimps being the difference between life and death has been a thing in DB since Bulma first showed Goku her panties to get him to give her the 4star ball.

Don't congratulate them on doing something kind of decently that has been a part of the series since the beginning.
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>>152338598
Multiverse is fucking retarded on a thousand levels.
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>>152338643
I mean, you idiot, when Beerus showed up in that univserse. MULTIPLE TIMES
Wouldn't that have raised some alarms?
Wouldn't someone somewhere have thought to alarm the god of universe 10?

>>152338651
the entire fucking resistance and how she's still alive.
That makes no sense.
It just doesn't.
We SEE her trying to fight black and it's hinted that she tries to do it A LOT, so why isn't she dead by now?

>>152338788
Good for you. That save you from looking like an ass. You can go about your life happily. Safe in the warm blanket that is your ignorance.
>>
https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/all
Viz has a page for free chapters, where you can find Dragon ball super official translation . Would be nice to see someone rip it.
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>>152338915
>looking like an ass
>irony the post
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>>152338750
>He was saved when Whis did his time thing, Gowasu should have tell him he's on danger or anything worse
We're talking about the original chain of events, obviously if you change history U10GoD will be still alive like in our timeline.
>>152338915
>I mean, you idiot, when Beerus showed up in that univserse. MULTIPLE TIMES
>Wouldn't that have raised some alarms?
>Wouldn't someone somewhere have thought to alarm the god of universe 10?
How does any of this fucking matter? Beerus only intervened after the events of Black was already set in motion. That means Gowasu already died, GoD10 died alongside with him, why the fuck would Beerus' intervention in our timeline matter after everything has already been solved? He's going to appear next arc anyways.
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>>152338915
You sound autistic.
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>>152333569
Terrible meme
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>>152333569
Cancer
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>>152333569
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>>152339036
This is a Super thread.
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>>152338915
>when Beerus showed up in that univserse. MULTIPLE TIMES
>being this retarded
It was a plot point in the Champa arc that Champa was collecting the Super Dragon Balls which are spread across U6 and U7. Yet Beerus didn't know that Champa was going into his Universe and taking the SDB until Bulma pointed it out. Not even going to bother with the rest of your dumbass post.
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>>152338915
>the entire fucking resistance and how she's still alive. That makes no sense. It just doesn't. We SEE her trying to fight black and it's hinted that she tries to do it A LOT, so why isn't she dead by now?
Oh, that's just Toei being retarded and adding useless shit to the plot.
None of this was in the outline made by Toriyama and you can tell because there's no resistance in the manga. And she actually almost got killed by that first ki blast, only recovering when Trunks gave her the senzu.
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>>152339106

cancer is a meme
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>>152333569
damn
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>>152333569
>All these replies
Aren't Toei shills always saying no one cares about the manga?
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This argument is fucking stupid.
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>>152339150
Still, going a little next level. Soon you'll be yelling about how Sonic's arms aren't blue.
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>>152339011
I thought you stopped reading a while ago?
You're a liar.
I do not converse with people such as you.

>>152339025
>How does any of this fucking matter? Beerus only intervened after the events of Black was already set in motion. That means Gowasu already died, GoD10 died alongside with him, why the fuck would Beerus' intervention in our timeline matter after everything has already been solved? He's going to appear next arc anyways.
Are you fucking retarded?
Beerus went to talk to Gowasu multiple fucking times. There is no way a god who knows his life is at risk or the angel of said god will simply ALLOW that shit to happen and not do something or want to know what's going on.
This one not even partially thought out story threw shade on the entire concept of the multiverse and managed to make it needlessly stupidly complex at the same time.
It even made Beerus look like an ineffectual faggot and the GoD concept look stupid and pointless.

They could just dump the GoD and have the angels look after everything. Seeing as how Beerus, Champa, and the GoD of 10 didn't do a goddamned thing worth doing during the Trunks saga.
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Is the original Buu ("kid" Buu) stronger than "Super" Buu (Buuhan+)?

Buu absorbs opponents to get stronger. However he was transformed into "fat" Buu after absorbing the powerful and pure-of-heart Grand Supreme Kai. This absorption resulted in Buu losing power because of his pure heart. Why did he lose power here but gain power when he absorbed other pure of heart characters like Goten and Gohan? Gohan is certainly pure of heart and while I don't know about Goten I'm sure he can probably ride the Nimbus Cloud as well.
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>>152339247
Everyone cares about the manga, even Toeishills.
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>>152339247
People replying to that post are underaged pussies.
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>>152333569
shit fuck you vegeta
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>>152338309
M8, i h8 One Piece and Naruto, but you dont see me shitting their threads and saying hating their creators is my hobby.
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>>152339290
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>>152333569
Aaaayyyy
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>>152339162
You're right.
But Beerus was going to see fucking Gowasu multiple fucking times. He even murdered a potential replacement for Gowasu.
He wasn't stealthing about the universe and moving dragon balls around.

Big fucking difference.

>>152339216
Okay, but her in particular being alive is still fucking stupid. So..you know.
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Leaks are here, can someone translate?
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>>152339355
Good for you?
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>>152339293
>Beerus went to talk to Gowasu multiple fucking times.
and what exactly is your fucking point retard?
>There is no way a god who knows his life is at risk or the angel of said god will simply ALLOW that shit to happen and not do something or want to know what's going on.
You think they can read into the future or something? The only possible clue is that he can sense Beerus' presence nearby, and even that is a stretch given that Beerus didn't sense Champa in his universe collecting his dragon balls
>This one not even partially thought out story threw shade on the entire concept of the multiverse and managed to make it needlessly stupidly complex at the same time.
There's barely anything complex here, why are you so fucking dumb you can't comprehend this?
They could just dump the GoD and have the angels look after everything.
Whis stated they are neutral beings, that's enough of a excuse to not have the plot be completely based around them.
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>>152339413
>temporary permanent fusions
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>>152339413
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>>152339458
It's permanent if there's a Kai involved.
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>>152333569
.
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>>152339413
fuck you
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>>152333569
fuck you
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>>152339297
That grand supreme kai was super good and super powerful And his goodness was tied to his power. When he absorbed him he took on his most powerful traits so that he could use his powers.
He became a kind hearted yet slightly dim and eternally hungry fat little power house.
The post good hearted buu was only able to get stronger by absorbing the skills and abilities and base power of others to himself.

Kid Buu got stronger and more skilled as he fought and he could fight eternally without limit and without ever tiring. He'd only only sleep or stop when he was bored.
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>>152339423
And could be good for you too if you stopped being a piece of shit.

>inb4 "im not that anon"
you too, just in case.
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>>152339526
>>152339542
fuck you
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>>152339551
I'm none of those anons that you quoted but I felt like replying anyway just to clarify that I'm most certainly not that anon.
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>She offers you a night of wild sex

Would you risk it?
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>Dragon Ball Super Arc No.3
>Goku gets Blacked
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>>152339628
No.
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>>152339492
What about those 2 unfused Kai right there?
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>>152333569
Every time
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The Japanese guy who leaks the manga on Twitter said they will come out tomorrow.
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>>152339551
I am that anon. Can you help me stop being a piece of shit? I'd like to hear your step by step guide.
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>>152339609
Good for you?

>>152339526
>>152339542
>>152339552
you fuckers
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>>152339438
>and what exactly is your fucking point retard?
GoDs of death don't just pay a fucking visit to Supreme Kais of other universes for no reason you fucking buffoon. A GoD would want to know what was going on. Fucking Beerus sealed the old kai in the fucking sword to keep him from dying for fucks sake.
You don't think other GoDs would be as proactive when it came to GoDs from other universes visiting their Supreme Kais?

>>There is no way a god who knows his life is at risk or the angel of said god will simply ALLOW that shit to happen and not do something or want to know what's going on.
>You think they can read into the future or something? The only possible clue is that he can sense Beerus' presence nearby, and even that is a stretch given that Beerus didn't sense Champa in his universe collecting his dragon balls
Whis is the one who takes care of things. Beerus blows shit up. Whis would probably have some inkling as to what is going on in the universe.

>>This one not even partially thought out story threw shade on the entire concept of the multiverse and managed to make it needlessly stupidly complex at the same time.
>There's barely anything complex here, why are you so fucking dumb you can't comprehend this?
An entirely new multiverse is created everytime a new timeline is created. Each with it's own Zeno. The idea is simple on paper but when you think about it for longer then 2 seconds you realize how horribly stupid and needless complex it can get.

>They could just dump the GoD and have the angels look after everything.
>Whis stated they are neutral beings, that's enough of a excuse to not have the plot be completely based around them.
Them being neutral doesn't mean what you think it means.
They could easily just sit back and let things happen until it threatens universal order on some level then they swoop in unmake it with time manipulation or nuke a planet/solar system/galaxy from orbit and then go about their day.

What des beerus add?
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>>152339674
what the flying fuck are you talking about? You need to have one ear with no potara for the two potaras to search for a pair and magnetize with one another.
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>>152333569
fucking
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>>152339628
No, she probably thinks sex is some sort of wrestling move.
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How do they come up with names for special attacks?
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>>152339628
Give her a few more years.
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How would you guys react if after the Universe Survival arc, the series Timeskips to right after Z's finale to "keep things fresh"?
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>>152339727
Is easy.
If you leave internet, you probably would stop being a piece of shit.
If you still are a piece of shit, then consider suicide.

I hope that can help, my fellow anon searching a better life.
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>>152339811
Yes. That's what he said there.
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What would have happened if Cell won and defeated the crew?

What would've happened with Buu? Or Beerus and Whis? Or Zamasu?

How would the universe have turned out if Cell won and become the MC of Dragon Ball?
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>>152333569
bad mem
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>>152339760
>GoDs of death don't just pay a fucking visit to Supreme Kais of other universes for no reason you fucking buffoon
And what exactly is your fucking point? Did you want God10 to magically wake up and give them a visit just so your flaring autism can go to rest?

>Whis is the one who takes care of things. Beerus blows shit up. Whis would probably have some inkling as to what is going on in the universe.
This answered nothing and I have no idea why you rambled about a non-point.

>An entirely new multiverse is created everytime a new timeline is created. Each with it's own Zeno. The idea is simple on paper but when you think about it for longer then 2 seconds you realize how horribly stupid and needless complex it can get.
There's a reason why time travel is forbidden, they're also destroying universes next arc to cut out extra fat of the narrative for dumb fucks like you.
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>>152339802
But from her first meeting with Goku on DB up to her episode on DBS she's still the same
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>>152339838
The earth would have already been destroyed.
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>>152339836
I see... thank you, anon
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>>152333569
it's not true
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>>152339774
Correct me if I'm wrong but they were fused, now they're not. And there's a Kai.

Why is it not permanent?

>>152339829
How will I get my hentai if I leave the internet? I'll remain a piece of shit that you very much.

Thank you for the suggestion though friend.
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>>152339895
Yes, obviously, but what would have happened next with Buu and the rest of the cast was the point of my post
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>>152336662
Fuck me, why didn't i see it before? That is pretty cool to have your ideas become a part of the story you've enjoyed.
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>>152339838
His overconfidence either

>Gets him turned to stone by Dabura
>Gets him turned into candy by Buu
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>>152333569
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>>152336935
Apparently he's the son of Goku and Westy and she's using him to kill everyone for her revenge.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>152339827
I'd be alright with it. It would be a way of integrating it into the story. On a certain level, though--given how Super has been with the story--the original series' epilogue doesn't even make sense anymore. Or it at least loses its impact.

Uub is great coming off of Buu's demise and everything, he isn't so interesting when you have Beerus and multiverse shenanigans wedged between it. That disrupts the fluidity and narrative weight of it.
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>>152339838
Buu probably wouldn't get revived.
Beerus wouldn't need to search the super saiyan god cuz they are almost extinct, if Cell didn't found Tarble

Zamasu... he can react with Cell in the same way as Goku, but would be all for nothing if he can't find something about the Super Dragin Bols.

The universe would be destroyed either by Cell, Beerus, or both, with Beerus being the superior one.
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>>152335221
>SSGSS Vegito
AYE
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>>152339802
>Few more years
Robots don't age,anon. She'll look that way even when she's 72.
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>>152339927
Well, magazines can do the magic.
They cost money though, but if you stop using your internet you will got some spare change to buy them.

Is a pleasure to help, waga tomodachi.
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>>152339995
assuming Cell wouldn't assist bobidi to revive Buu so he could fight him
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>>152333569
Why
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>>152339927
>Correct me if I'm wrong but they were fused, now they're not. And there's a Kai.
They collected the Namekian dragon balls in fear of thinking Champa was collecting them but it turns out he was after Super DBs.
After being ordered by Old Kai to place them back where they belong Kibito and Shin wished to split back into two again.
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>>152339995
I like to think Cell populated a planet with his children to see if he could make a stronger version of himself or something.
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>>152340107
Yeah, didn't thought about that, and is a good scenario. Well, Beerus still wins in the end cuz nobody outside of the god realm knows the rules with the GoDs.
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>>152340150
So when the Kai were fretting about the fusion being permanent they were just building drama to be assholes?

>>152340091
I'm not your tomodachi, asshole (written as friend).
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>>152333569
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>>152339838
With Cell as the victor and the entire Earth destroyed he would have wandered the multiverse fighting inferior beings and getting bored. Eventually Cell would land upon a habitable planet and entertain himself with the lesser lifeforms, re-beginning the Freeza-style mafia empire that his cells would instinctively nudge him towards. Then and there he would create a "Perfect" empire to escape from the boredom that absolute destruction brings (after a while of fighting weak peons and destroying several galaxies he would've toned down and found that nothingness is bland and meaningless, so he would revert back to the cells of Freeza and King Cold to take his place as the new Emperor... basically).

After perfecting his army and created a true "Son" (that isn't a miniature reject like the mini-cell bullshit or that multiverse garbage, but an actual unique son as his offspring) he would train him and build up his empire for galactic domination. Eventually Babadi would attack Cell's new homeplanet with Dabura attempt to bring about the rebirth of Buu. Cell's initial army would be decimated and used as fodder, much to the Emperor's amusement at such a sudden appearance of a foe. Cell would be interested to play with Dabura and Babadi and would allow them to do as they please so long as it entertains him, so he wouldn't be in a rush to defeat Dabura but would instead indulge them in several fights with himself and his son. Eventually it would split into Dabura vs Cell. Cell is shocked that someone exists more powerful than SS2 Gohan was, someone equally as powerful as himself. He would truly enjoy the battle and let it last long enough for Buu to regain enough energy for the revival.

Cell would emerge the winner revealing that he had trained and had grown even more powerful than the fight against SS2 Gohan. With his newly unleashed power Cell would defeat Dabura and Buu would be unleashed. Dabura would've been defeated but left alive.

I'll continue this later.
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>>152340298
THEN DONT MAKE ME LOSE MY TIME IF YOU ARE NOT MY FRIEND, RETARD!!
love you.

>>152340216
Idk, cell wanted to destroy earth just for the lols. Maybe he could do that in another planet.
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>>152339881
>And what exactly is your fucking point? Did you want God10 to magically wake up and give them a visit just so your flaring autism can go to rest?
How in the fuck do you know that other GoDs sleep. So far it's only been shown that Beerus is the sleeper.
And why in the fuck are you even talking to me now if that's how you're going to be. Just say I DUNNO and fuck off.

>>Whis is the one who takes care of things. Beerus blows shit up. Whis would probably have some inkling as to what is going on in the universe.
>This answered nothing and I have no idea why you rambled about a non-point.
You know when I asked why even have beerus then you said something fucking stupid?
Yeah. That's what I was answering.
Now I'm answering another stupid fucking thing you're posting.

>>An entirely new multiverse is created everytime a new timeline is created. Each with it's own Zeno. The idea is simple on paper but when you think about it for longer then 2 seconds you realize how horribly stupid and needless complex it can get.
>There's a reason why time travel is forbidden, they're also destroying universes next arc to cut out extra fat of the narrative for dumb fucks like you.

1.They never say why time travel is forbidden in the anime or the manga you simple cunt.
2.Both Beerus and Whis makes two entirely new goddamenend timelines during the trunks saga. Meaning that no one gives a fuck and it's forbidden for no real goddamned reason.
3.The fucking multiversal arc has FUCK ALL to do with the other multiverses created by timeline shenanigans you absolute fucking retard.

You're a drooling moron.
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>>152340413
>I'll continue this later.
Mostly because I don't have enough autism to continue for multiple 2000+ word fanfiction posts.

Maybe I'll write an actual "what-if" Cell series and shitpost it here later for giggles.
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>>152339994
But if you think about it. Buu is some kind of older then the known multiverse chaos elemental or something.
Uub has a lot more potential as a magically enhanced human in the universe if this sort of becomes a thing.

Would also like to see people get blown out when Pan has a little baby brother and to see that Bra DOESNT EXIIIIIIIIIST though.
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>>152340444
>How in the fuck do you know that other GoDs sleep. So far it's only been shown that Beerus is the sleeper.
It doesn't matter if he's sleeping or not, you have no proof that he is aware of Beerus visiting.

>1.They never say why time travel is forbidden in the anime or the manga you simple cunt.
Yes they did you fucking mongoloid. In both mediums you turbo curdled queef shit.

>2.Both Beerus and Whis makes two entirely new goddamenend timelines during the trunks saga.
Just one and it was by accident trying to fix Black's shit.

>3.The fucking multiversal arc has FUCK ALL to do with the other multiverses created by timeline shenanigans you absolute fucking retard.
What's your fucking point? There was a mess in a timeline and they deleted it, why are you so fucking triggered over a non issue?
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>>152339358
I like this picture
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>>152340699
>It doesn't matter if he's sleeping or not, you have no proof that he is aware of Beerus visiting.
I never once said that ANYONE was aware that Beerus visited you retard.
My problem was that no one, espescially the GoD and angel of universe 10, was aware that he visited that universe's supreme kai in the first place.

>>1.They never say why time travel is forbidden in the anime or the manga you simple cunt.
>Yes they did you fucking mongoloid. In both mediums you turbo curdled queef shit.
Okay stupid.
What was the given reason for time travel being forbidden, and why did both Whis and Beerus get away with it.

>>2.Both Beerus and Whis makes two entirely new goddamenend timelines during the trunks saga.
>Just one and it was by accident trying to fix Black's shit.
...
Beerus created one when he killed the Zamasu of gokus timeline.
Whis created one at the end of the Trunks saga so that there could be two fucking Trunks and Mais in that new alternate timeline. Instead of Gokus fucking timeline for some fucking reason.
Want to know two better ways to get rid of them?
Put their fucking ass on Champa's earth.
OR send them out into gokus universe to hunt for the super dragon balls so they could wish back their multiverse.

>>3.The fucking multiversal arc has FUCK ALL to do with the other multiverses created by timeline shenanigans you absolute fucking retard.
>What's your fucking point? There was a mess in a timeline and they deleted it, why are you so fucking triggered over a non issue?
....
I'm done with you.
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>>152333569
fuck you
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>>152341205
>My problem was that no one, espescially the GoD and angel of universe 10, was aware that he visited that universe's supreme kai in the first place.
Beerus was unaware when Champa was around in his universe, it's safe to assume they don't know every little thing happening.

>What was the given reason for time travel being forbidden, and why did both Whis and Beerus get away with it.
"as I was saying... by maniuplating and toying with time travel, new worlds are created! that's why i'ts a grave and serious crime!" - chapter 14 pg 20
>Whis created one at the end of the Trunks saga so that there could be two fucking Trunks and Mais in that new alternate timeline. Instead of Gokus fucking timeline for some fucking reason.
Want to know two better ways to get rid of them?
No Whis sent them to that newly created timeline by Beerus.
>I'm done with you.
Good, you're a fucking moron that has no reading comprehension that needs everything spoonfed to him because you can't comprehend a fucking basic story.
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>>152333569
Goku, no!
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>>152340592
Uub is hot shit regardless, that's not my point so much. My point is that it's jarring to go back to a plot point that hinges on a wish Goku made all the way back when they killed Buu. That was the whole point of that time skip and epilogue to begin with. Sure, they can always just kind of write around it or mostly ignore Uub, but that would almost defeat the purpose of Super skipping at all.

They could make it work, I'm just not sure if there's much point to it. It wouldn't surprise me if Super decided to dismiss the epilogue entirely, or at least tried to work exclusively within the time gap so as to avoid touching it. We'll see. They could always retell the events of the epilogue to make it a little more fluid.
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>>152341822
>It wouldn't surprise me if Super decided to dismiss the epilogue entirely,
No they plan on somehow keeping it somewhat relevant, check this statement in their interview here:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-manga-vol-1-tori-toyo-interview-web-version/

>So far Dragon Ball Super has followed Toriyama-sensei‘s plot, but I think it might be interesting for Toyotarō-sensei to become more involved with the story-writing process from here on out!
Toriyama:
Good idea!! I bet it’ll make it more interesting to include Toyotarō-sensei‘s original ideas.
Toyotarō:
T-That’s so much pressure… (sweat). But I think it’ll be really cool to help Dragon Ball someday reach its final chapter.
Toriyama:
Oh, that’s good! People will go “Wow, Toriyama-sensei planned it all out from the beginning!” and I’ll look really cool (laughs).
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>>152343253
Pretty kawaii if you ask me, it invokes a sense of nostalgic adventure instead of just more fighting.
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>>152341703
>Beerus was unaware when Champa was around in his universe, it's safe to assume they don't know every little thing happening.
A GoD visiting the supremem kai of his universe isn't a little thing. It's a potential life threatening thing and something he'd want to know about.

>>What was the given reason for time travel being forbidden, and why did both Whis and Beerus get away with it.
>"as I was saying... by maniuplating and toying with time travel, new worlds are created! that's why i'ts a grave and serious crime!" - chapter 14 pg 20
Ah, the manga that's been a way to fix the massive holes in the shittily written anime for almost a year now.
Wasn't said in the anime, means that it's an afterthought that was put in the manga.

>>Whis created one at the end of the Trunks saga so that there could be two fucking Trunks and Mais in that new alternate timeline. Instead of Gokus fucking timeline for some fucking reason.
>Want to know two better ways to get rid of them?
>No Whis sent them to that newly created timeline by Beerus.
No, no he fucking didn't.
The new timeline by Beerus is the one that the series takes place in.
Whis said he would go back in time in trunk's universe and create a new timeline at the end of the Future Trunks saga for future trunks and mai to live in.

>>I'm done with you.
>Good, you're a fucking moron that has no reading comprehension that needs everything spoonfed to him because you can't comprehend a fucking basic story.
I understood the story.
It's just a bad story. An indefensibly fucking STUPID story.
One that you apparently don't even watch.
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>>152343253
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>>152333373
It should be while they're trying for a 3rd baby. Zamasu's utter disgust when he finds out what's happening and brutally rape murders Chichi.
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>>152343550
>A GoD visiting the supremem kai of his universe isn't a little thing. It's a potential life threatening thing and something he'd want to know about.
GoDs don't kill each other, there's nothing to worry about faggot.

>Wasn't said in the anime, means that it's an
>afterthought that was put in the manga
except it was and you're just too lazy to look back.

>No, no he fucking didn't.
Yes he did, the accidental timeline that Beerus made is the one they decide to occupy you dumb fuck. Why would they purposefully sin and create another timeline when there's one perfectly available right there? Are you fucking stupid?
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>>152333569
Really dude
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>>152333569
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>>152343613
ok..?
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What if there was a new character who was the pure and not evil part of Zamasu and he was called Usamazu and he became a good guy and helped Goku and then they got the Dragon Balls and someone made a joke about Cell being revived and it became a movie called Resurrection C and Usamazu had to sacrifice himself and with his dying breath to take out Omega Cell told Goku "thank you for showing me that not all ningen are the same. Son Gokuu." and then they wiah back Usumazu and live happily ever after

should i call toyotato and read this to him
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>>152344196
>the not evil part of Zamasu
Not evil part of Zamasu is Zamasu, anon.
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>>152333569
lel ebing mem compadre
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>>152343785
>GoDs don't kill each other, there's nothing to worry about faggot.
Zamasu killed Gowasu.
There's everything to worry about.

>>Wasn't said in the anime, means that it's an
>>afterthought that was put in the manga
>except it was and you're just too lazy to look back.
Where?


>>No, no he fucking didn't.
>Yes he did, the accidental timeline that Beerus made is the one they decide to occupy you dumb fuck. Why would they purposefully sin and create another timeline when there's one perfectly available right there? Are you fucking stupid?

The alternate timeline that super is taking place in is the alternate timeline you moron.

And YES THEY WOULD create an alternate fucking timeline.
Whis actually says he will go to Future trunks timeline, and go back in time to before black got to future trunks timeline and warn them of what is gonig to happen.
So unless Beerus fucking created the time machine and not future Bulma then he had fucking nothing to do with the new timeline Whis created.
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>>152343253
Hard to believe that Uub is the human form of the personified destruction of the universe and chaos and destruction.
A horrible entity who if left unchecked would have quickly been powerful enough too easily wipe out beerus whis and even the grand priest and maybe have even merged with Zeno.

Now he's just a happy kid who wants to take care of his family and fight.
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>>152338975
Jesus, the mangastream translations are bad.
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>>152344364
Zamasu isn't a GoD idiot.
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>>152344364
What the actual fuck are you rambling on about? I suggest you rewatch the final episode again before you further embarrass your self.
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>>152333569
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>>152344906
Whis is going to go into future trunks timeline but go backwards in time to just before black got there.
They will then leave trunks and mai there on that earth.

That is what fucking happened.

>>152344871
If supreme kais can go evil and kill each other and gods of destruction can be litterally fucking anyone, then why can't god's of destruction fucking kill each other?

Please, enlighten me.
I'll wait for your stupid as fuck answer.
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>>152333569
my name jeff
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>>152345202
You clearly didn't fucking rewatch the ep like how i just advised you, fuck off and watch the fucking show you pile of shit.
Literally kys if you reply again without rewatching.
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>>152334867
nigga looks like a stickman
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>>152344364
>So unless Beerus fucking created the time machine and not future Bulma then he had fucking nothing to do with the new timeline Whis created.
Here you go retard.
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>>152345948
why so they keep doing stupid shit like this
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>>152345948
IT'S NOT FUNNY
WHY DOES HE NOT NEED TO KNOW
IT CAN'T HARM HIM IN ANYWAY FOR GODSSAKE
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>>152345989
I kind of liked how they did Goku meeting Bardock in the afterlife in Supersonic Warriors 2

>Hey, are you my son Kakarot?
>Yeah.
>Wanna help me take over the afterlife?
>Nah, I ain't about that life.
>Alright, your loss.
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>>152333857
>>152333989

Literally uncuckable.
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>>152346340
Exactly and there are the fans that expect a Naruto moment out of this. Goku doesn't give a fuck.
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>>152333418
You know...I've never seen saiyaman and gohan in the same place...
Someone should introduce them to each other!
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Does Cell have a soul? Did he go into the afterlife?
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Why didn't anyone in the Future Timeline try to find New Namek to revive people?
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>>152347640
too far with no coordinates?
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>>152347672
Goku could have asked King Kai to find New Namek.
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>>152345948
>feels
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>>152346402
you do know goku not liking his family is just a joke right
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>>152334821
told this people since months before toei showed

basically black was from the future of the current timeline
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>>152334637
>Since it’s Akira Toriyama-sensei doing the original story, the manga has a slightly different approach than the TV anime, which results in a different kind of production. I hope you all enjoy that aspect of it for volume 2!! And I hope you keep reading!!

horry shit he BTFO toei
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>>152347672
>>152347733
actually in the manga during the android arc goku did ask king kai for new namek location and then just teleported to it himself to bring dende

>>152347640
Toriyama plot hole. There are many (like gowasu not getting an afterlife body)
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>>152336116
America did that scene better than Japan
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are the super movies canon?
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>>152349014
No, the retellings are canon
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>>152349054
Toei retellings haven't Toriyama involved. The manga have, so BoG retelling is the new canon, but RoF is in a limbo (since movie and Toei version of RoF have things which doesn't work with the current manga continuity)
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>>152349427
>Create a new series
>Retell movies so their events and characters are canon since that show is canon
>Adjust some things so it better lines up with what's coming next, or add or delete things
>It's somehow not canon to the rest of the show
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>>152335001
Last panel ruins everything, whoever made this should have thought of a funny line to make it not cringeworthy.
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>>152349503
>Create a new series
>Retell movies so their events and characters are canon since that show is canon
>Adjust some things so it better lines up with what's coming next, or add or delete things
>It's canon to the rest of the show

That's how the manga works, because have Toriyama working with Toyotaro every chapter. Anime simply haven't.
Blame Toei for retell the movies without the autor checking the product, then
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>>152350017
But the anime is canon to itself which is what really matters
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>>152348603
It's a win win situation if the anime can look as good as his manga.
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>>152350104
>But the anime is canon to itself
As GT is canon to itself and DBZ (reminder that DBZ is only anime, manga was always called "DB") is canon to itself, so? Every DB series (manga or anime) have its own continuity but only one is the real canon

Canon continuity is:
>'DRAGON BALL - (minus)' manga special chapter
>'JACO The Galactic Patrolman' manga series
>'DRAGON BALL' manga series (chapters 001-517)
>'DRAGON BALL SUPER' manga series
>'DRAGON BALL' manga series (chapters 518-519)
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>>152350306
But the Dragon Ball Super manga is promotional material for the anime.
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>>152350379
not anymore it isn't. Shueisha/Jump that owns everything Dragon Ball emphasized that the manga is the original story that Toriyama works on, this automatically makes it more canon if you were to compare the two mediums.
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>>152350379
So? Canon is decided by Toriyama. If he wants, he can even accept GT as canon.
Promotional or not, manga have Akira Toriyama and his disciple working on it, anime version can't say the same.
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>>152350379
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Oh so now these threads are back to the same old arguments from the same old people, all the cool posters always leave within the two days after the episode airs

I'd like to remind you that Super is actually good and /a/ is being full of hipsters as usual
Animation isn't even that bad, it's the average for the current industry, it's just more noticeable because of DBZ's legacy
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>>152350379
>But the Dragon Ball Super manga is promotional material for the anime.
That was never said officially. The manga doesn't even credit Toei officially, only Bird Studios/Toriyama, Shueisha and Toyotaro.
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>>152351713
>Animation isn't even that bad, it's the average for the current industry, it's just more noticeable because of DBZ's legacy
Fuck off faggot, everyone knows it was trash pre-DBR era, there's a reason why they stated they stepped in for "quality control"
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>>152350531
So since Shueisha is now fully in control starting from episode 73, this makes the Great Saiyman filler and the Goku and Krillin get high filler completely canon under your own admission
Good tbqh, they are good fillers
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>>152351829
Not quite, it's more canon than previous filler but at the end of the day the only true canon arcs are the ones guided by Toriyama's plot outlines.
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Leaks won't be available until thursday/Friday, sorry guys.
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>>152351872
>more canon
>true canon

somehow, I feel like the term canon has lost its meaning and has been turned into a buzzword
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>>152352250
The reason why the post DBR era filler is "more canon" than before is because there's a brand new department that's dedicated specifically for handling and communicating with Toriyama regarding everything Dragon Ball.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2017/01/05/yahoo-japan-discusses-dragon-ball-room-initiative-with-section-chief-akio-iyoku/

>the Dragon Ball Room is a section for handling all mediation between the author and foreign or domestic licensees and helping with editorial supervision and contracts relating to filming and commercialization of Dragon Ball and other works by Akira Toriyama.

>there were long-running discussions at Shueisha over how to manage a point of contact for outside companies when it came to Dragon Ball, which has finished its serialization. As a result, “they decided to establish a new section for contacting Toriyama-sensei and other things to keep the franchise going indefinitely”.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/10/14/shueisha-establishes-new-dragon-ball-room-initiative-support-future-content/

>Akira Toriyama, the original author, commented that, “I was wanting to keep this old series alive and kicking even in the modern day with help from Shueisha’s excellent staff, so for me this team is dependable and a real godsend.
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>>152352417
you don't have to post the same sources for the 100th time anon, I'm aware
plus considering it's always kazenshuu, how many of you fags are from there?
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>>152352250
>>152352417
Essentially, there was just Toei filler tier canon, and now there's filler that's supervised by the "Planning Coordinators" Shueisha/VJump of the DBR department that I would rank higher than previous filler.
>>152352438
>how many of you fags are from there?
I just use their news articles.
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You're an idiot. All the filler in Super is canon
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>>152352577
Super Anime isn't canon.
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>SON GOKUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAAA
>YOU AGAIN TRUNKS?
>I AM.... IMMORTAL!
>SO WHERE WILL YOU GO FOR HELP NEXT?

How can the Funimation dub even compete?
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>>152352645
It can't, the dub budget is minuscule in comparison to paying someone of Miki's caliber.
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>>152352577
>hurr medicine doesn't work on Pan because of her saiyan blood
Yeah, sure.
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>>152352516
That doesn't mean much though, I highly doubt they're putting too much effort into supervising filler. They will actually start supervising shit when the new arc starts.
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>>152337336
You have to be one of the most triggered